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«Нам надо поговорить». Сон
1:15
Сколько в норме нужно спать?
2:26
Если спать меньше или больше нормы, что будет с организмом?
4:15
Можно ли выспаться впрок?
6:10
О методике полифазного сна
8:49
Сколько длится глубокая часть сна?
9:32
«Если спать меньше семи часов, то сопротивляемость резко падает к инфекционным заболеваниям»
11:06
Что такое энергетический пересып и как он действует?
12:07
Почему после дневного сна чувствуешь себя разбитым? И нужен ли он вообще?
13:55
Насколько важно ложиться до 12?
16:55
Про джетлаг
19:07
Безопасно ли принимать мелатонин?
20:55
От чего зависит скорость засыпания?
22:12
Почему появляется бессонница?
24:17
Лайфхаки для тех, кто не может уснуть
28:17
Почему люди храпят? И чем опасна апноэ во сне?
31:23
Как парам лучше спать: вместе или раздельно
32:25
Есть ли идеальные условия для сна?
34:51
За сколько часов до сна нужно перестать есть?
35:28
Можно ли запрограммировать мозг вставать в определенное время?
37:32
Все ли видят сны?
38:32
Что такое сны?
40:39
О вещих снах. Они бывают?
42:58
Стоит ли трактовать сны?
44:15
Почему снятся кошмары?
46:00
О лунатизме
48:26
Какие существуют главные мифы о снах?
49:34
Можно ли выспаться после бессонной ночи?
51:24
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sleep after a sleepless night
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is impossible, just put your head on the pillow
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and within a second you are sleeping better
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this pillow is a pillow for 40,000 dollars and
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I wake up A minute before the alarm, a
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healthy person should never snore
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That is, if you snore, it’s
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not really normally counting sheep I don’t know do
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n’t count It’s okay If you
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sleep for 4 hours that night they are seven Yes
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nothing will happen the next night sleep
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deeply at two in the morning I woke up and that’s it And until
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7:00 in the morning and everyone is already getting up 30% of people
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don’t experience this this condition is
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called jettison Yes,
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jet lag syndrome Surely there are
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life hacks for people who can’t
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sleep Well, sweet delicious things help
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falling asleep, it’s proven that’s why If you ca
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n’t sleep then Get up something Eat
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a little Yes and go back to sleep and
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hello You’re with us Maryana Minske I need
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to talk about sleep with me in the studio,
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somnologist Mikhail Poluektov Mikhail,
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hello Thank you very much for
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taking the time Hello, a person
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spends 3 lives in sleep, so it’s very important for
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a third of his life, we’ll talk about it, how much
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sleep you need is normally considered to be 7-8
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hours Where does this figure come from? and is this so, and
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not so long ago an agreement was reached
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from world experts on how much
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sleep an adult needs, for example,
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it was established that from 7 to 9 hours is
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most likely the typical sleep norm for a
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person; someone needs to sleep 7.5 hours;
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-someone is nine,
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this is determined by everyone for themselves,
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in fact, it’s not so
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difficult, you need to do it in conditions of
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such a favorable lifestyle,
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never We have to wake up in the morning,
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run to work, and sleep off the day off on
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vacation on the third
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I'm sorry, it's not the second week of vacation,
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even yes When they leave This is, so to
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speak, compensation for lack of sleep, and then
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most likely this
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internal sleep time, which is genetically laid down, is
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now assumed that
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this time for each person
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individually is genetically laid down and
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it is in range from 7 to 9
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hours If you sleep less than this norm,
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let’s say 6 hours, which is the same for those people
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Well, for whom this is not really shown, what
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will happen to the body, this is how, in fact,
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these norms were found when
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large groups of the population were analyzed:
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10,000 people, 100,000 million and looked at the
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frequency of detection of various diseases
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depending on how much people slept, and it
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turned out that when they slept less than
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seven hours, their
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number of diseases increased; more than 9 hours
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also increased. But from 7 to 9 the
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number of diseases was relatively
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low, and this is how scientists found that
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indeed, in order not to get sick,
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which means that at this time during these hours the
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best recovery occurs, from 7
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to 9 hours you need to get this
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amount of sleep. That is, if you sleep more than
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normal, then this is as bad as less or
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what’s worse, this still remains
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a mystery because formal
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statistics show that there is
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such a curve when in the middle of 7-9 hours,
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less than seven hours there is an increase in
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morbidity; more than 9 hours there is an
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increase in morbidity, but here it is
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clear where sleep time decreases,
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this means that most likely the body does not
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recover and because of this it
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turns out to be not so resistant to
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various agents; it
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recovers well. Why do
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scientists still get sick now?
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sleep More to recover and
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that’s why they get
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more sleep on this side and more illnesses
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simply because they initially had
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more illnesses That is, this is not true and
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sleeping a lot is most likely not harmful. Is it possible to
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get enough sleep
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one of my favorite topics because one
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of my teachers, Professor Levin, liked to
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repeat that you can’t do three things in life
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in vain: get enough love and get enough sleep, so I
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somehow, quite unexpectedly, came across a
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foreign article describing
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research where it was shown that you can get enough
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sleep for the future, at least in
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the future for one week very
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interesting research was carried out
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when they took healthy people, young
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Volunteers,
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and one group was given
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more sleep for a week than they were used to sleeping.
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They usually work there intensively; it won’t
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work out; they sleep for 6.5 hours, but here they were
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given 2 hours more sleep; they say,
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sleep according to 85 hours no one will
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wake you up for a week so they slept and
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then these two groups of those who slept in a
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normal way and those who had
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the opportunity to stock up on sleep were already
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put in harsh conditions that they
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could sleep only 4 hours 4 hours is
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completely insufficient, they experienced
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constant the need, of course, for sleep and
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at night they slept so badly and during the day
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various tests were carried out on them and the
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results of these tests throughout the
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next week were always better for those
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who were in reserve, that is, it was proven
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that at least in the long run for a
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week you can stock up and if we sleep for a
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week for five to six hours and
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sleep for 12 hours on weekends, is this normal or is
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this also abnormal? But this is
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one of the acceptable strategies for
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minimizing harm, that is, it is better to do it. So,
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rather than waking up on the weekends,
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there are also studies that have shown
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that people who don’t have the opportunity to get enough
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sleep on weekends have more
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illnesses than those who get enough sleep to at least
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somehow compensate. That is, this is also not
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very good, but at least it
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allows us to somehow protect our body.
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It’s good if you didn’t get a
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good night’s sleep, let’s say
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you slept for 4 hours what is the best way to compensate for this
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lack of sleep? Sleep during the day in fits and starts of
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10-15 minutes and get it, or still.
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Allocate time and two hours, it’s normal
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to try to get a full night’s sleep; you can do it
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anyway; there is such a strategy for
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polyphasic sleep, it’s called a strategy, the
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word of scientists. But in fact, it’s
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this means that during the day, to sleep several times,
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for some reason it is believed that Leonardo da
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Vinci, the genius of the Renaissance, slept in such a
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way that he slept for 15 minutes every 4
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hours, that is, it turns out that during the day he
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slept for an hour and a half and the rest of the
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time he created Well, no one didn’t confirm that
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it really was But they call
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it the Da Vinci regime and this
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strange graph has an explanation, it
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lies in the physiology of sleep itself. And we
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know this too, it’s just that not everyone can
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explain it so clearly when we
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go to bed in the evening. in the first half of
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not even the night in the first half of sleep is always
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deeper we always sleep without our hind
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legs especially children. But if
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you try to wake them up an hour after
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falling asleep it is very difficult to do this
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because indeed the first part
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of sleep is always the deepest and the second part is
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less deep in the second part will go in
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the morning easier, a person wakes up and here’s how to
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do it in order to cut off the
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second unnecessary part of sleep, so to speak,
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leave only the first one, and this is what this
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polyphasic sleep technique is trying to
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do in this way. That is, we
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put it to bed many times a day, a lot means
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four, for example Yes every time our sleep
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begins with deep, good
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restorative sleep, and it turns out
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that in this way we
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reduce the amount of the second part of sleep, which is not
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very deep, and indeed
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studies have been conducted that
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have shown that in this way it is possible to
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reduce the total sleep time per day and
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not lose in the quality of recovery. But
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it exists rather, it’s more of a
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scientific interest because in real
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life it’s impossible to practice this technique of
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polyphasic sleep because
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it implies a very strict
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maintenance of this sleep schedule, that
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is, the bell rang, for example, at 2:00 in
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the afternoon a person must drop everything and
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immediately run to sleep for his half hour yes Then there is
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a call, he wakes up in half an hour,
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quickly does something in the past three or
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four hours with a new one urgently needs to
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go to bed, that is, yes. This way
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he will gain time. Well, most likely
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he will not be happy with this because
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he will be cut off from the environment Yes he
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will not be able to interact normally with
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other normal people the
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sleep phase lasts for half an hour or
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more somewhere up to an hour it lasts the first
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period of deep sleep lasts because in
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general the sleep cycle is the so-called when we
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go through all the stages of sleep like
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steps and deeper we go down
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then there is a period of REM sleep, this is such a
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special special dream and then all this
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is repeated in these steps, this
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cycle takes one and a half hours, of these one
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and a half hours it is especially deep. This is
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exactly the first cycle where for about an hour we
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get such a good
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restorative deep sleep. And
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how long do you sleep? I try to sleep at
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least seven hours you And when was
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their story with the pandemic with isolation yes
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I just started giving lectures about the impact of a
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lack of scenic immunity and found
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several studies that directly
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showed that if you sleep less than seven
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hours, then the risks are more precisely that
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resistance drops sharply
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infectious disease And by the way,
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the effectiveness of vaccination also decreases,
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and then for me this turned out to be such a
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very serious argument to reconsider
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my views on sleep time, I began to
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seek from myself, too, these
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at least 7 hours of sleep, that is, after all,
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this lack of sleep is it
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has an effect on direct immunity Yes, not so much
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in fact. It has been proven with such
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real scientific methods about the dangers of
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lack of sleep on the body.
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In fact, three things have been proven. It has been proven that the
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negative effect of lack of sleep on
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immunity on the cardiovascular system is
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the best proven and absolutely
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proven that lack of sleep lasts
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for a long time and increases the
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risk of developing arterial hypertension, the
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pressure rises higher and it has been proven
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that the risk of developing diabetes
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mellitus, also a fairly
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common disease, increases other
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risks Most likely, there is also a risk
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of developing dementia, for example depression Well,
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they are still not proven yet
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convincingly Well, you begin to think
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much worse Yes, when you sleep little, but
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this is such a temporary effect Yes,
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today you didn’t sleep well, you think well
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tomorrow, you slept well And if
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we talk about the risk of developing there in 10
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years, 20 years of dementia But it has not yet
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been proven that poor sleepers I
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also wanted to ask about Rubanov’s sleep.
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There is such an opinion: let’s say you
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’re driving for a long time somewhere in another city,
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for example, and they recommend that everyone there sleep for two
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hours and 10 minutes to rest, how is
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that a different story? Yes, it’s
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called Power effect, such a beautiful
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word in English Well, in Russian it is
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literally an energetic oversleep, that is,
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you have slept and recharged yourself with energy, and
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indeed this effect exists
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even for a person who slept a
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sufficient amount of time the
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previous night, anyway, in conditions of
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such monotonous activity,
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this drowsiness increases and in order to shake oneself up
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in order to slightly renew one’s
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attention and one’s mental abilities,
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he can really sleep for 10-20
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minutes and
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scientific experiments have shown that
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such a duration of daytime sleep
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really improves attention,
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concentration and reaction speed. It has also
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been shown that sleeping for more than 30 minutes during the
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daytime worsens these indicators. By
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the way, yes, because often after
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such a long daytime sleep
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you feel overwhelmed, there is even such
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a term as sleep intoxication syndrome when a
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person wakes up from a deep sleep and
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cannot come to his senses for some time, in
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fact it goes away quickly, but it
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still happens in children. We can observe this
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at night when we drop the child off to the
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toilet. Yes, here it is does not understand at all what is
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happening because he is in a state at this time
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Yes, and for an adult This
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can also be important if during the course of not
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he dives too deep, he will not immediately
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be able to get out of it and begin
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activities regarding the importance of the
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usefulness of daytime sleep, it is believed that
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for children
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and for adults, provided that
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they slept normally at night
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in terms of such short-term
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mental abilities, attention to
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labor productivity, it has been proven that
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this has a positive effect, that all the
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same, if we refresh
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our brain a little with such sleep, then this will improve these
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functions, but in the long term In the long term,
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this may interfere with those people who
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sleep poorly at night because, again, from the
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physiology of sleep it is known that
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the likelihood of falling asleep in the evening is
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determined, among other things, by the fact that
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Substances that
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cause drowsiness accumulate in the brain and the longer we don’t
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sleep, the more they accumulate So
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gradually gradually by the evening there are already
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a lot of them and we already want to sleep If a person feels
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bad at night and sleeps during the day What will
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happen is that the accumulation of these
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substances will stop abruptly, he will sleep
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a little, he will process these
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substances and by the evening He will come with
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less so-called sleep pressure And
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then he may not fall asleep and that’s why we don’t
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recommend sleeping
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during the day for people who are prone to sleep disorders. It’s
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more likely to be useful than harmful. How
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important is it to go to bed before midnight? Yes, this is
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just about the question of the first and second half of
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sleep. There is a common expression that the fraction
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before midnight is equal two hours of sleep after
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midnight here, in fact,
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astronomical time has nothing to do with
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these parts of the dream. Here is the
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first part of the dream. It is always deeper than the
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second part of the dream, that is, it would be more correct
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to say that an hour in the first half of
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sleep is more expensive than an hour there in the second
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half of sleep, that is, we can get
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this first half of sleep by going to bed there
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at one in the morning Until after midnight,
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it will still come.
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This is such a beautiful figurative expression and
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it reflects a really deep
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scientific scientific meaning, it has
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astronomical time. It is not
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tied, that is, this a common
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expression from 10:00 pm to 12:00
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beauty is not scientific it has not been proven
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Well, rather, it is also beautiful,
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really such an expression, it rather seems to
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give some kind of incentive some kind of
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explanation for the fact that in general you need to go to
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bed early according to the schedule Yes, there is no need
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there until two o'clock in the morning to have fun or
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work, but you need to go to bed when it
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starts to get dark. When processes are already happening in the body
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that switch
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our body, it is a night mode and you can
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quite accurately determine in
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fact this moment of switching is the
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moment the production of melatonin hormones begins.
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There is a substance
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that it is produced precisely uh in the
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dark time of the day, it’s not a sleep hormone, it’s a
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hormone of darkness because uh When our
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internal clock, they receive
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information like this, the light that goes through
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our eyes to the brain in the sufras of the
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ulcerative core That’s when the internal clock
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finds out what the level of Light outside
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decreases, they give a signal for the production of
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melatonin and that’s when it
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started to be produced, then all parts of
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the body learn that it’s time for them to sleep, all the
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cells of the body and that they need to
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rebuild into such a calmer
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mode Melatonin begins to be produced
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quite early, somewhere from 20 to 22
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o'clock at different times, regardless of
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electric lighting, depending on the fact that we
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are in a bright room, you
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can, with quite a lot of effort,
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knock down this melatonin production.
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But you still can't completely eliminate it,
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it will still happen, so
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you can put it off a little. a few
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minutes there for several tens of minutes in
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experimental conditions. But basically, all the
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same, in every person, at the
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same time, this production of
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melatonin occurs and the body recognizes that
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night is coming, so this production
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begins quite early; it begins
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again, I will repeat in the range from 20 until 22:00
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and therefore it would be better to go to bed
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for example 22 hours When your body has already
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learned that it is time for you to sleep and you are ready
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to relax and immerse yourself in the arms of
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morpheus What is better when you fly to
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another time zone for example
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Moscow-New York you flew arrived and there
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It’s night in Moscow and it’s early morning there
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When you need to go to bed wait for the next 24
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hours to be patient fight sleep or
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go to bed just flew in went to bed during the day in the morning Yes, this is still a
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mystery for me I’ve been looking for the answer to this question for years I
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don’t know 10 Because I I regularly read
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lectures on biological rhythms,
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including on sleep disorders associated with
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disturbances in biological rhythms.
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There are various calculators
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that ask you to enter your departure time and
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arrival time. Then they
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tell you when you need to take a
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melatonin tablet, when you need to
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turn on a bright light, it works. This is very
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bad in fact. In fact,
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what do people who fly frequently need to know?
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Firstly, that 30% of people do not
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experience this condition, which is
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called clock shift syndrome; for some reason,
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one third of the population immediately
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switches their internal clock;
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they are so lucky. I don’t feel sorry for
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such people. Yes, and what to do for
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those who remain, it is
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still recommended to take a very short
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nap after the flight so that
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this PowerNet refreshing effect
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works. How much is it? Well, I think
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up to half an hour so as not to go into a completely
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deep sleep, do not dive in. Yes, and hold on
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until the last day of that day, if it is
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such a day arrival or is it a working day so
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that you can already go to bed at the
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same time as the
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people around you in the new time zone.
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So we will quickly switch to the mode of life in the
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new hourly search,
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it is shown that this
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switch does not happen instantly anyway. There is a
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certain rule, I don’t know where it came from, but
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it’s good I remember that for one
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crossed time zone you need one
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day of adaptation of the body, so if
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the glue is seven zones for a week, please wait
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and back then Well, I never
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managed to wait for this
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switch because I had to
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fly back and had to take
00:19:01
really sleeping pills, but These
00:19:03
calculators, unfortunately, are not impractical, do
00:19:06
not work for sleeping pills, by the way,
00:19:08
there are such tablets. Melatonin,
00:19:10
how safe is it if you
00:19:12
take it on a daily basis? And in
00:19:14
general, how much can you take? For how
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long? Melatonin is a synthetic analogue of
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the substance that is produced
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in our body every evening. That is it’s
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still like a natural product, on the
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one hand, on the other hand, it’s a
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biologically active product that
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causes various effects in the body,
00:19:30
again returning to the form of
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melatonin, they tried to treat
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patients with coronavirus infection, so to speak,
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because it also has its own
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immune stimulating effect, which is quite
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weak but there is But this could not be
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demonstrated That is, it’s
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so easy as a food supplement
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after all Melatonin should not be used,
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but you need to consult a doctor because
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it has a really sleeping
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effect, it differs from the placebo effect,
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it has also been proven that it is not just a
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dummy when you believe that it
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will help you, it helps you no
00:20:05
melatonin preparations can speed up falling asleep Well,
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quite weakly But there are
00:20:10
contraindications for taking these
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drugs, so I strongly do not
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recommend
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consuming melanin on your own Yes, although it is believed
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that this is the norm there, melatonin preparations are
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also positioned as biological
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food additives as dietary supplements and as
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medicines, after all, I, as a
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doctor, believe that they should be
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positioned as
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medicines. Although in some groups of
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the population, especially in older people, the
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effect of the drug melatonin is very
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noticeable and good; doctors often
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prescribe it specifically to people in older
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age groups. a drug for
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the treatment of sleep disorders because it is
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quite safe on the one hand, on
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the other hand it
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suffers from such a mild hypnotic
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effect Most likely will not harm What does the
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speed of falling asleep depend on? I
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know people who just put their head on the
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pillow and within a second they are asleep,
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and there are people who can’t sleep
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for a long time half the night they suffer tossing and turning
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What does it depend on What does it depend on the
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correct operation of this
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sleep regulation system on the work of the sleep centers in
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the brain there is a direct sleep center that
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turns on at a certain time and
00:21:18
makes us sleep And he programmed this process
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Every day with what happens with us
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The main thing is not to disturb it, that is,
00:21:27
sleep disturbance occurs when we somehow do
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not allow this center to work
00:21:32
in the evening, so to speak, more actively than or
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really use bright light, and
00:21:40
what knocks this center off the gear but from the
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correct setting That is, in principle, an
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ordinary person
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if a person is unusual We still
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live under the pressure of constant
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civilization under information load
00:21:56
we need to do something constantly
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think about something for the future we need Yes, and
00:22:02
this provides a source of tension that
00:22:04
naturally interferes with the work of this
00:22:06
sleep center there are Happy people who it does
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n’t interfere, they actually go to bed and
00:22:11
sleep, but where does Insomnia come from? After
00:22:13
all, what recommendations do you have
00:22:15
for those people who can’t sleep? I have
00:22:19
her specialists around, and
00:22:22
I get the impression that Insomnia is
00:22:24
still such a predisposition,
00:22:26
that is, not everyone gets insomnia, but
00:22:30
people have a tendency towards this and it
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has been shown in scientific studies
00:22:35
that certain areas of the brain in people with
00:22:38
insomnia, even during the daytime when
00:22:39
they do not think that they will sleep or
00:22:42
will not sleep, certain areas of the brain
00:22:44
work too actively and most likely
00:22:45
they are already with it are born If we compare
00:22:48
these areas of the brain in other people who are
00:22:50
so normal Yes, apparently there is a sort
00:22:54
of genetic
00:22:55
predisposition to the development of
00:22:57
insomnia, but it may be realized,
00:22:59
it may not be realized if a person
00:23:01
lives in excellent conditions, everything is fine with him,
00:23:03
no stress, then he never
00:23:05
finds out that he is prone to insomnia, there are
00:23:06
no such things in life, but more
00:23:10
often a person faces some kind of
00:23:11
stress, loses sleep for a while and
00:23:14
then sleep is restored because
00:23:16
there are very powerful protective
00:23:18
mechanisms of psychological defense Yes, we
00:23:20
get used to stress, we cope and
00:23:22
we slowly go out and return back
00:23:25
to the comfort zone, but the participation of people,
00:23:27
well, after all, this sleep disorder
00:23:29
is recorded, it’s like the second type of
00:23:32
predisposition. The first is
00:23:33
biological, when a person has
00:23:35
this increased activity of brain
00:23:37
centers, and the second type is such a
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psychological fixation that is,
00:23:41
people who are too worried about their
00:23:43
sleep and we can remember ourselves when we are
00:23:46
trying to fall asleep after
00:23:48
waking up at night. Well, why don’t we fall asleep
00:23:50
Yes, but then when we forget that
00:23:53
we need to force ourselves to fall asleep, we
00:23:55
fall asleep and there are people for whom it is
00:23:57
intense at 10 since this is
00:23:59
anxiety and really, even
00:24:01
during the day, they don’t allow themselves to forget about how
00:24:02
poorly they slept because of this, everything falls out of their hands
00:24:04
and what will happen again the next
00:24:07
night and they drive themselves right into this
00:24:09
expectation of insomnia And then they
00:24:12
really have Insomnia,
00:24:13
although initially it started just as a
00:24:15
normal reaction to stress,
00:24:17
you probably have
00:24:19
life hacks for people who, well, can’t
00:24:21
sleep, they can’t sleep, but they should sleep, they
00:24:24
want to sleep, the most important thing is still, well,
00:24:27
the most important thing is this education to know Yes, this is
00:24:30
how sleep works, but it’s not so easy
00:24:32
to do. Well, probably the
00:24:35
simplest information that we
00:24:39
need to know about sleep is
00:24:41
that it is organized cyclically, that
00:24:43
these are the periods of surface and deep
00:24:46
sleep, they alternate in a period of one and a half
00:24:49
hours that means From a practical point of
00:24:51
view, if you woke up suddenly,
00:24:53
it is likely that your brain your brain
00:24:56
has switched to a higher level of
00:24:57
activity but it will definitely reduce this
00:25:02
activity after half an hour or so and there will still be a
00:25:05
dip and you will have
00:25:07
the opportunity to naturally fall back to
00:25:08
sleep so you just Lie down, don’t
00:25:10
twitch and Wait for this
00:25:12
natural process to happen, count
00:25:14
the sheep, I don’t know, don’t count, think about
00:25:17
something pleasant, don’t think pleasant, don’t
00:25:19
think anyway, in half an hour, that is,
00:25:21
any active struggle will most likely
00:25:22
interfere because then we force the
00:25:26
brain centers to work more actively
00:25:28
it prevents, on the contrary, falling asleep,
00:25:30
so the best position is to
00:25:33
accept it as it is and lie down and wait to
00:25:36
fall asleep because this is how the
00:25:37
sleep mechanism works. I really like to eat
00:25:40
this technique called mindfun,
00:25:42
Spanish. But in Russian it’s called
00:25:43
awareness. It’s not clear what. This is
00:25:45
awareness, well, that’s what it means. accept
00:25:48
everything as it is, yes,
00:25:50
just like animals Yes, there is
00:25:53
a tree there, the house is the owner Well, everything is fine, yes And
00:25:57
no thoughts there But this must be learned and
00:26:00
there is a psychological method of teaching
00:26:02
this method of awareness and it has been
00:26:04
shown that this also allows one to improve
00:26:06
salt in people, that is, when a person
00:26:08
wakes up and begins to replay in his head
00:26:09
everything that happened to him And what will happen, yes And
00:26:13
if he learns to accept it as it is Yes,
00:26:16
he no longer gets excited and waits for
00:26:18
this natural fall asleep Well, yes, well,
00:26:21
that is, there are no special
00:26:22
recommendations here, do not get a drink of warm
00:26:24
water, turn it off there, close the curtains,
00:26:26
think about something there, think about something special,
00:26:29
count someone Well, in fact, there are, of
00:26:31
course, more complex options, we have now
00:26:34
highlighted the most important thing, the most important thing is
00:26:36
to lie down and wait Because the right will come,
00:26:38
there are more complex methods to
00:26:40
actually get up there and walk
00:26:42
wait until, again in
00:26:44
half an hour, this moment comes when I
00:26:47
work with patients with disorders, I
00:26:50
assess the person’s personality, estimate
00:26:52
his psychotypes, I think the
00:26:54
active method is more suitable for this, because it is clear
00:26:56
that he is such a person who is accustomed to taking
00:26:58
fate into his own hands, and he
00:27:00
will not just lie there And so I then draw up such a plan of
00:27:02
action for him, I say, You should
00:27:04
get up there, have some tea there,
00:27:06
Walk back and forth twice and only then lie down,
00:27:09
and the other one, on the contrary, they don’t want to accept
00:27:11
responsibility, I say, but you lie down and
00:27:14
everything and everything will happen in the best
00:27:16
way yes, that is, well, this is just the
00:27:18
doctor’s job, too. And if, let’s say, after half an hour,
00:27:21
you haven’t fallen asleep, then this is already a sleep disorder.
00:27:23
Yes, if after half an hour you haven’t fallen asleep, then we
00:27:26
add another hour and a half to this. This
00:27:28
means that after 2 hours you are still waiting.
00:27:31
Well, it happens that people
00:27:33
wake up
00:27:35
and everything is done before 7:00 in the morning and everyone already gets up,
00:27:38
for example, there the child has to go to school or go to
00:27:40
work, and of course this is what happens in
00:27:44
this life, most often this arises due to
00:27:47
some kind of stress from some events before the
00:27:50
nervous system is too excited and
00:27:52
indeed such natural
00:27:54
urges to fall asleep still cannot
00:27:56
overcome this excitement. Well, it’s
00:27:59
best not to do anything, again, don’t
00:28:01
panic, know that
00:28:03
you’ll get enough sleep the next night, so if you’re tired of
00:28:05
lying down, but get up, read a book,
00:28:07
watch TV, that’s
00:28:09
okay If you sleep for 4 hours that night
00:28:11
and not seven, nothing will happen the
00:28:14
next night, sleep more deeply, that’s
00:28:16
all snoring, how much does
00:28:17
it interfere with sleep and the reasons
00:28:22
and how to get rid of it,
00:28:24
many men snore somewhere up to twenty
00:28:28
percent of men in the population snores up to
00:28:31
10% women That is, this is a private situation,
00:28:34
but in most cases, snoring is just
00:28:37
such a strange phenomenon and it doesn’t
00:28:41
mean something bad,
00:28:44
people just snore under what conditions if they are very
00:28:48
tired if
00:28:50
they have a stuffy nose, for example, if they have a cold and if
00:28:53
there are
00:28:54
any medical problems level of the
00:28:57
respiratory tract Well, for example, excess
00:29:00
body weight when fat is deposited in the
00:29:02
throat or chronic, indeed, there is
00:29:04
difficulty in nasal breathing, yes, that is, in
00:29:07
principle, a
00:29:08
healthy person should not snore. That
00:29:10
is, if you snore, then this is no longer entirely
00:29:11
normal, but it is not dangerous for the
00:29:13
human body if it is just snoring but against the background of
00:29:17
snoring, so-called apnea can develop;
00:29:19
these are stops in breathing during sleep, but
00:29:22
if, for example, we examine every snoring
00:29:24
person, I think that we
00:29:26
will find apnea somewhere in every
00:29:28
fourth of them. Yes, and apnea is
00:29:31
already serious; these are the pauses in breathing
00:29:33
that occur due to the fact that
00:29:36
during inhalation, the air is inhaled too quickly
00:29:38
on the way because the
00:29:40
airways are narrow and suction
00:29:42
pressure arises And from time to time, behind the
00:29:44
root of the tongue, they collapse,
00:29:46
this is a cessation of breathing
00:29:50
According to those Well, you can’t die from it,
00:29:52
these are just extremely rare cases She
00:29:54
It is dangerous because hundreds of such stops in breathing
00:29:56
happen per night, in fact,
00:29:59
because this mechanism of collapse
00:30:01
and opening of the airways
00:30:03
works while a person is sleeping all the time. So
00:30:05
when these breath holds occur many times,
00:30:08
many times there is a
00:30:10
lack of oxygen in the
00:30:13
circulatory system Yes and Return
00:30:16
lack of return to normal, each such
00:30:19
episode - This is a minister for the body,
00:30:20
it is stress, first of all, for the
00:30:22
cardiovascular system, and
00:30:23
this incomplete
00:30:27
restoration of the cardiovascular
00:30:28
system accumulates and the risks of developing
00:30:30
various diseases, especially
00:30:31
hypertension, increases. This is very good. It is
00:30:33
proven, that is, well this is a problem, so
00:30:35
when we hear a story about snoring, well,
00:30:39
first of all,
00:30:40
they figure it out, I think, yes, this person is not
00:30:42
very full, he seems to have a clear voice, most
00:30:46
likely he doesn’t have a congestion Well,
00:30:48
he snores and snores, but most likely he
00:30:51
doesn’t have these muscles, but we’ll do it
00:30:54
just in case, we do sleep studies. And in
00:30:56
about a quarter of cases, we identify
00:30:58
this apnea, and then more
00:31:00
active work is required; it needs to be shown to a surgeon;
00:31:09
we say Well,
00:31:11
you just have snoring and you don’t have to do anything about it. Or you can
00:31:14
do a small
00:31:15
operation. There is also an operation where the
00:31:17
tongue is cut with a laser and
00:31:19
this
00:31:20
cosmetic problem in this case goes away
00:31:22
regarding separate sleeping. That’s what’s better,
00:31:26
for example, sleeping together or sleeping
00:31:29
separately.
00:31:30
This It’s not a question of sleep as such, it’s a
00:31:34
question of psychological Comfort That is,
00:31:37
if a person is used to forever
00:31:40
Having someone next to him since childhood
00:31:42
Yes, there’s someone close to him, but this makes him feel calmer and
00:31:45
he’ll sleep better and in general
00:31:47
his life will be more pleasant. such
00:31:50
vocalists are inveterate who do not want
00:31:52
anyone to control anyone to see,
00:31:54
but they will be more comfortable sleeping alone, yes, that
00:31:56
is, this is a purely psychological property,
00:31:58
it is not some kind of integral there and an
00:32:02
integral part of sleep, that is, the
00:32:04
quality of sleep is not affected by what is there
00:32:07
someone is tossing and turning nearby, snoring, I don’t know, getting up
00:32:09
at night, I haven’t seen any serious
00:32:11
research on this topic. Well, if a spouse
00:32:13
snores, for example, more often. Men snore, then it’s
00:32:15
been proven that yes, a woman’s sleep is getting worse,
00:32:18
yes. But if suddenly she behaves like a
00:32:20
normal person and doesn’t snore, then I think that’s
00:32:23
not the case It has an effect, to be honest. I wonder if there are
00:32:25
some ideal conditions for sleeping. I don’t
00:32:28
know, put a bed somewhere according to Feng Shui,
00:32:30
like, well, curtains, curtain the windows,
00:32:33
and fresh air. Yes, there is
00:32:36
the concept of sleep hygiene, which
00:32:38
includes Well, the organization of the environment,
00:32:41
reduce the noise level, reduce the level
00:32:44
illumination, I’m a big supporter of just
00:32:46
dense ones. Indeed, it helps a lot,
00:32:49
or especially for excitable people who wake
00:32:52
up earlier in the morning when it’s light and
00:32:54
start to twitch, for example, well then
00:32:56
if Sorry to interrupt, if you completely
00:32:58
close the curtains, how can you sleep for 12 hours
00:33:01
in a row, you just don’t understand what’s
00:33:04
built inside the body, there are hours on
00:33:09
eight yes, that is, if you sleep for 12
00:33:11
hours. This means that before that you did
00:33:12
n’t get enough sleep for a very long time and the body took its toll.
00:33:15
This is also good, recovery happened,
00:33:17
that is, these are the
00:33:20
basic rules of hygiene, but they are known to everyone
00:33:22
that you don’t need to stimulate yourself too much
00:33:23
before going to bed, interfere with
00:33:25
falling asleep, but uh, when they ask me a question
00:33:28
What is the most important of all this, the most
00:33:31
important thing is still psychological
00:33:32
Comfort, that’s psychological Comfort
00:33:35
is an order of magnitude more important than curtains than
00:33:38
whatever a semi-rigid or hard mattress
00:33:40
than a pillow some feature
00:33:43
question what the Vedic pillow is better, I
00:33:47
answer him What is better, the best
00:33:48
pillow is a pillow of
00:33:49
40 thousand dollars, there is such a pillow, the
00:33:51
most expensive in the world, if you bought it, I’m
00:33:55
so good Psychologically,
00:33:57
this is a question of purely psychological
00:34:00
Comfort and the mattresses are also hard,
00:34:02
semi-hard there with What is called
00:34:05
independent block and so on, when
00:34:07
a person studied all this, when he
00:34:10
analyzed all these mattresses in general
00:34:13
in terms of price-quality ratio, when he
00:34:15
chose this mattress, it was brought to him, but he
00:34:17
already feels so good that the point is not in the mattress
00:34:20
at all. But the point is that he gets
00:34:22
this pure psychological
00:34:23
satisfaction just from this and he
00:34:25
really sleeps better on it, but not
00:34:26
because it’s a mattress with independent
00:34:28
springs or some kind of foam, just
00:34:30
because he has such a joy,
00:34:32
don’t bother with it at all,
00:34:35
but it’s better why you should bother
00:34:38
because it gives a feeling of
00:34:39
psychological Comfort of
00:34:41
satisfaction, you still need to
00:34:43
do something,
00:34:44
some kind of work then produce it in order to
00:34:47
get it later. This is a
00:34:48
deep feeling Well, yes, by the way, how much before
00:34:52
bed is it better to eat
00:34:54
such a time? There are no general
00:34:57
recommendations: don’t go to bed hungry Yes, well, in
00:34:59
principle, this is understandable that the dove interferes with
00:35:02
falling asleep, but there is, and as if someone will like
00:35:06
this news, someone will not like that
00:35:07
sweet, tasty helps to fall asleep, this is
00:35:11
proven, therefore, if you can’t sleep, then
00:35:13
get up, eat something, eat a little,
00:35:15
and go back to sleep, and Yes, there is
00:35:18
evidence that this is it
00:35:19
high-carbohydrate foods It makes
00:35:21
you fall asleep faster, it really is.
00:35:27
What happens to the brain during sleep, but this is
00:35:30
what I mean here. Is it possible to
00:35:32
program yourself to do
00:35:33
certain actions? For example,
00:35:35
when I need to get up early? For example,
00:35:38
at 5:40 and I set an alarm clock at 5:40 I
00:35:41
tell myself about this and I wake up A
00:35:43
minute before the alarm clock it’s always like how is this
00:35:47
possible there’s nothing special about it No it
00:35:50
was shown in daytime experiments
00:35:52
that a person has
00:35:55
certain cells in the brain that count
00:35:57
time and can be
00:36:00
trained with enough
00:36:01
motivation spend after spending some
00:36:03
amount of time learn to measure
00:36:06
time more or less correctly,
00:36:08
many such experiments have been done that Yes,
00:36:10
indeed, a person has the ability to
00:36:11
learn to measure time. Therefore, if a
00:36:14
person has some very important
00:36:16
task to do, Yes, when he is very motivated
00:36:18
not to miss it, to be at a
00:36:19
certain time Yes, he really
00:36:21
can force himself at the right time.
00:36:23
Then you can program yourself to
00:36:26
solve some important business or
00:36:28
some kind of question. Yes, it
00:36:30
does. No, that’s
00:36:32
another story. It’s also possible, yes, but that’s a different
00:36:34
story. Here we are talking about so that
00:36:36
certain actions occur at a
00:36:38
certain point in time, to establish
00:36:39
this association, you can have
00:36:41
a cell for this and a solution to a certain task Yes,
00:36:43
you can program yourself before going to bed
00:36:45
to solve a certain task for this, for
00:36:48
this, in fact, it is enough to
00:36:49
sit on this task before going to bed Because this is how
00:36:51
this one works a system for
00:36:54
processing information in a dream, something that
00:36:57
we received just before going to sleep. It
00:36:59
continues to be processed and We
00:37:01
can see this in our dreams.
00:37:03
Agree that more often we see dreams
00:37:05
about some events that
00:37:07
preceded falling asleep, simply
00:37:09
because this information has not yet
00:37:12
been digested completely and when it
00:37:13
is processed then we see
00:37:15
these dream plots; another thing is that
00:37:19
completely unusual elements from
00:37:21
our childhood can be woven into these dream plots from somewhere else. This is a
00:37:23
different story, but most often we see
00:37:26
Dreams about what recently Are you interested
00:37:29
in the movie that we watched before going to
00:37:31
bed about dreams? I personally
00:37:34
see dreams every night and they are very vivid and
00:37:37
sometimes I don’t even understand whether it was in reality
00:37:39
or I dreamed about it. Is it true that this
00:37:42
depends on what and whether all people dream,
00:37:44
just someone... then he doesn’t remember. Maybe I’m
00:37:47
sure that all people see dreams with
00:37:50
fairly
00:37:52
high accuracy. It can be determined if there
00:37:55
is a person when he
00:37:57
begins the phase with rapid
00:37:59
eye movements. There is a phase of slow-wave
00:38:01
sleep, which takes up most of the sleep. And
00:38:03
there is a phase of rapid eye
00:38:05
movement sleep. class takes less
00:38:08
in animals in animals more often it’s just that
00:38:11
these phases are repeated and you can see When
00:38:13
the eyes run around, if you
00:38:14
wake up the dog, she will tell you in detail What
00:38:17
she saw but unfortunately she won’t tell But a
00:38:19
person will tell Yes and that’s why
00:38:21
even a person who doesn’t say that he
00:38:24
never saw dreams if we start
00:38:26
waking him up during this phase, but most likely we
00:38:28
will get a story from him. Because it wo
00:38:30
n’t have time to disappear from his memory, but
00:38:32
dreams in general. What is it? This is the work of
00:38:34
our subconscious.
00:38:36
Well, this is a by-product, one might say, of
00:38:39
processing the information that we
00:38:41
received before going to bed, so it happens, of
00:38:45
course, that our dream
00:38:46
turns out to be in no way connected with the events
00:38:49
that preceded falling asleep and this is
00:38:51
explained by the fact that in addition to this
00:38:54
temporary connection, so to speak, of the
00:38:56
medicine preceding wakefulness, there is
00:38:59
also a connection in significance, if there is
00:39:01
some problem that we are all the time is
00:39:03
deeper Yes, it takes, then we will see a dream on
00:39:06
the topic of this problem and not on the topic of the
00:39:08
film we watched because for us
00:39:10
this problem is more important, yes, maybe we will not
00:39:12
directly
00:39:13
see, so to speak, what
00:39:17
really worries us Yes, and there is a
00:39:18
whole science Yes So it turns out that this is all
00:39:22
psychoanalysis, this is psychotherapy, so to speak.
00:39:24
Where, including through
00:39:28
processing by talking about dreams,
00:39:31
specialists try to get to the bottom of the
00:39:33
true reasons for the development of
00:39:36
surgical problems in a particular
00:39:37
person because it is believed that in
00:39:40
dreams they are actually
00:39:41
partially removed, at least this block
00:39:45
that is censored and that is not allows us to
00:39:49
admit to ourselves that
00:39:52
we actually care, that is, we say we
00:39:54
care, it’s actually not us, this
00:39:56
block is so deep that we even
00:39:58
forbid ourselves to think about it in a dream,
00:40:00
it’s in a dream Yes, these prohibitions are lifted,
00:40:03
they are not completely with him they are
00:40:05
removed to such an extent that these
00:40:07
problems begin to declare themselves in the language
00:40:09
of symbols, that is, also not directly. And the
00:40:11
languages ​​of symbols and the task of a
00:40:14
psychotherapist or psychoanalyst is
00:40:16
the concept. For this person, this is the language
00:40:19
of symbols. Yes, this is what it means,
00:40:22
this imagery, this plot
00:40:24
of a dream. because most likely
00:40:26
the symbols are individual for each
00:40:28
person, they are based on him on his
00:40:30
life,
00:40:31
his worldview on his development. So you
00:40:35
need to relearn this language
00:40:37
every time things are dreams. As you explain, I had prophetic
00:40:40
dreams twice in my life. This is
00:40:44
impossible. There is no way to explain this.
00:40:46
from the point of view of the science of the brain, this
00:40:49
is a rather trivial
00:40:52
function. Oddly enough,
00:40:53
our brain, that is, the brain performs different tasks all the time, so to
00:40:57
speak,
00:40:59
including It performs the task of foreseeing
00:41:00
the future In order to react in time
00:41:02
to changes in the external
00:41:04
environment, that is,
00:41:05
it is calculated all the time, as it were so to speak,
00:41:08
the future is being calculated and now we know
00:41:10
that we are now in the room and in the
00:41:12
next five seconds nothing
00:41:14
should happen if the door opens
00:41:16
that this is already happening, so to
00:41:19
speak, the situation will not
00:41:20
coincide with the model of the future And we urgently
00:41:23
need to react Yes, and sooner in the same way,
00:41:25
the brain continues to simulate
00:41:28
the future in a dream, but in a dream it
00:41:31
gets less opportunity for this
00:41:33
because
00:41:36
we sleep with our eyes closed, sounds
00:41:39
are also blocked, so to speak, during sleep and
00:41:41
therefore we are limited to
00:41:44
analyze
00:41:46
incoming information only by the
00:41:48
content of
00:41:49
the information contained in
00:41:51
memory and indeed, during these
00:41:54
periods of REM sleep,
00:41:55
our Memories are apparently activated; they
00:41:58
pop up, so to speak, they
00:42:01
are shown to us, and at the same time the brain, at the same time,
00:42:04
tries to build a picture of the future from these memories;
00:42:06
it’s designed that way all
00:42:09
the time; it builds this picture; it doesn’t want to
00:42:10
do this; it still does builds it equally and
00:42:12
in most cases, of course, no
00:42:14
such serious forecast is obtained; there is
00:42:18
not enough information, but sometimes it may
00:42:21
coincide. Or maybe it turns out
00:42:22
because maybe at the right time,
00:42:24
these memory cells opened, so to speak,
00:42:27
and we were given exactly the
00:42:29
information that made it possible
00:42:31
so we can say that tomorrow at 22:00 the train
00:42:33
will be there on some branch, it must be and I
00:42:37
saw it in a dream, he came here
00:42:38
Came on the third track And today on the
00:42:40
fifth Wow, but is this connected with
00:42:43
intuition, let’s say someone has a more developed
00:42:45
intuition they can see prophetic dreams more often
00:42:48
intuition is just one of the
00:42:52
designations probably for this function of the
00:42:54
brain the predictive function of the brain
00:42:55
which works constantly apparently a Is it
00:42:58
worth interpreting dreams Well, the interpretation
00:43:01
is done by psychologists and
00:43:03
psychotherapists and if they can find
00:43:08
this language symbol to learn the language symbol of
00:43:10
a person then they will be able to Well, again with some
00:43:12
amount of error, so to speak,
00:43:14
explain why the person had a dream This is an
00:43:17
obsessive dream that seems to have nothing to do
00:43:18
with his activities and in general with
00:43:21
his previous life experiences,
00:43:24
here it’s like classical medicine,
00:43:26
classical physiology she
00:43:28
can’t explain these psychological
00:43:30
theories, psychoanalytic ones, because
00:43:32
classical physiology says that
00:43:34
if there is something, but it must be
00:43:36
registered, we must
00:43:38
see a signal on the computer screen, either there is
00:43:40
a signal or there is no signal, this is information
00:43:42
that we believe. Why do
00:43:44
psychoanalysts come up with it? some kind of
00:43:46
construction that when you were a child your dad
00:43:48
looked at you wrong so
00:43:49
you felt deprived for the rest of your
00:43:52
life that’s why you had a dream yesterday
00:43:55
about something and so on This is such a
00:43:57
construct that is
00:44:00
incompatible with the materialistic
00:44:02
understanding but it works Oddly enough
00:44:04
because indeed, in general, this whole
00:44:06
area of ​​psychoanalysis, psychotherapy in general,
00:44:09
it really helps people, it
00:44:11
solves their psychological problems, but
00:44:13
it’s not clear how
00:44:14
many people ask Why do they have
00:44:17
nightmares, but I heard you explain that
00:44:20
adults
00:44:22
rarely have nightmares because this is a manifestation Yes, there
00:44:23
should be a certain reaction after
00:44:25
waking up
00:44:27
Well, this is a question of terminology, after all, I
00:44:31
mean by nightmares very
00:44:33
unpleasant painful Memories
00:44:35
that cause a sharp emotional
00:44:37
reaction and which are then remembered
00:44:40
not only at night but also during the day, so I
00:44:43
call them nightmares Yes And these kind of
00:44:45
nightmares are still for adults children don’t
00:44:47
dream about it, sometimes if a child
00:44:49
especially watches some kind of
00:44:50
exciting film, yes, he may dream about
00:44:52
the plot of this film, where he runs away from a
00:44:55
robot, there he is running somewhere, yes, but it’s
00:44:57
a nightmare Yes, because his nervous system is
00:44:59
not yet mature and it cannot An adult can automatically cope
00:45:00
with such an emotional load,
00:45:06
and what adults call
00:45:08
nightmares is rather just an unpleasant
00:45:11
dream, a dream with an unpleasant
00:45:12
content, that is, the brain makes a forecast
00:45:15
Yes, based on the information that is
00:45:17
hardwired in the memory. So this forecast can
00:45:20
beunpleasant and
00:45:23
unpleasant things, so the brain again
00:45:25
predicted that this does not mean it
00:45:27
will happen Yes, but he will still remember that
00:45:29
this dream was bad And if an
00:45:31
adult dreams that he is being
00:45:33
killed Forgive the
00:45:35
stupid question, but nevertheless, Well, everything
00:45:40
must be watched in context Yes, what movie did
00:45:41
he watch before? What kind of conversations did he
00:45:44
have? It’s not a Nightmare Yes, well, this is an
00:45:46
unpleasant dream, after all, the main
00:45:48
criterion for a nightmare is a very strong
00:45:50
emotional accompaniment during
00:45:52
awakening from it and this is a Memory
00:45:54
during the next period of wakefulness
00:45:56
that this interferes with his life, and then the nightmare is
00:45:59
sleepwalking.
00:46:01
Where does this come from? What this is Well, this
00:46:04
sleepwalking is now generally
00:46:06
considered not as a disease, but even
00:46:08
as a variant of the norm because it turned out
00:46:10
that this occurs in animals Well, almost
00:46:13
at every step, if previously
00:46:15
it was believed that this was such a special property,
00:46:17
only some animals, dolphins
00:46:19
had this for the first time It was discovered that the dolphin,
00:46:22
in order not to forget when to emerge, he
00:46:24
sleeps
00:46:26
alternately with one or the other,
00:46:28
and accordingly he always controls
00:46:30
the situation, he can always surface to
00:46:32
scoop up a little air, and then it turned
00:46:35
out that
00:46:38
seals behave the same way, and there are some sea cows
00:46:41
and birds and It turns out that the ducks
00:46:43
also behave, that is, when the duck
00:46:46
sleeps, it sits
00:46:48
there and dozes. Yes, the ducks
00:46:51
who are inside the flock, they sleep with two
00:46:53
hemispheres of the ducks that are on the
00:46:56
edge, they must look out,
00:46:59
they have that eye that looks out,
00:47:00
connected to the opposite in our
00:47:02
hemisphere, he and the payment the hemisphere does not
00:47:04
sleep, but the eye that looks inside the pack is
00:47:09
so connected to the hemisphere that
00:47:11
sleeps closed, this phenomenon is very
00:47:14
common in nature and, in
00:47:15
fact, it is not surprising that we also
00:47:17
inherited this ability to partially sleep
00:47:19
partially awake and it manifests itself most
00:47:21
often, of course, only in
00:47:23
childhood when the nervous system works
00:47:25
unstable and indeed at some
00:47:27
point in time the brain may find itself
00:47:28
in two states at the same time. One
00:47:31
part of the brain sleeps more often; the frontal lobe
00:47:33
sleeps; and the other part of the brain, the motor zone,
00:47:36
begins to act and produces some kind of
00:47:39
habitual motor activity
00:47:40
that is often repeated. the child
00:47:43
sits there, for example in the children's room,
00:47:45
starts fiddling with something there, as if
00:47:46
he was playing because he
00:47:49
had been playing in the same place all the time before. Yes,
00:47:50
because yes, but in fact he is sleeping, he does not
00:47:53
understand this. It’s interesting that in the morning this is
00:47:54
also about it won’t remember because that
00:47:56
part of the brain that should remember
00:47:58
this whole story She was sleeping at that time and
00:48:00
overslept
00:48:01
how many children are susceptible percentage what percentage
00:48:04
this is not a small percentage This is about 4
00:48:06
percent this is so to speak according to our
00:48:09
medical data this is a much
00:48:11
different matter what then this the percentage
00:48:13
is reduced to zero almost in adults This
00:48:15
happens very rarely, usually up to about
00:48:17
14 years of age, the walks continue then, as if
00:48:21
cut off, they all end and
00:48:22
adults rarely rarely go episodes
00:48:24
occur and what are the main myths about dreams
00:48:27
do you know?
00:48:28
Is it true that
00:48:30
sleeping until midnight is beneficial? true but only
00:48:33
the first If we talk about the first half of
00:48:35
sleep They are until midnight Is it true that
00:48:38
sleeping a lot is harmful most likely not
00:48:41
true yes is it true that a short daytime
00:48:44
nap helps you recover is it true it has
00:48:46
been proven Is it true that you can stock up
00:48:48
but is it true that you can but is it true that donuts
00:48:52
that to do what they don’t realize what they are
00:48:53
doing they are partially aware of it all the same But
00:48:56
basically no yes That is, in principle, here you
00:48:58
and I are right here is the
00:49:01
classic classic list of
00:49:03
questions. I think they discussed it. And even
00:49:06
when, how is it better, broken sleep or 7
00:49:09
hours at night or something like this here is a torn sleep
00:49:12
during the day. If you choose seeds from the
00:49:14
point of view of physiology, it is better to still
00:49:16
sleep completely,
00:49:17
sleep for some long period
00:49:19
of time, so recovery
00:49:21
occurs better, if it is not possible, then it is better
00:49:23
to sleep another day. If you did not
00:49:26
get enough sleep at night, this is better than suffering there until
00:49:28
evenings to return everything at once,
00:49:31
it’s impossible to return it like that, but this raises
00:49:34
another question, I remembered that is not
00:49:36
discussed. Is it possible to get enough sleep after a
00:49:39
sleepless night? That’s how
00:49:42
this sleep regulation system works, that it’s
00:49:46
impossible to get enough sleep after a sleepless night, and I’ve experienced this myself,
00:49:48
and many who are the people who work the night
00:49:51
shift, when you come back after
00:49:52
night duty, you think now I’ll go to bed and get some sleep,
00:49:54
I’ll sleep there for 5 hours or 8
00:49:58
hours and you always wake up after
00:50:01
really less time. After three
00:50:03
hours, after 4 hours, why does this happen
00:50:05
because that’s how sleep works, what besides
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this? accumulation of fatigue, just like
00:50:12
in the evening there is also a cyclicity in the morning
00:50:15
hours, we are active, we accelerate during the day,
00:50:18
more and more of us, the brain begins
00:50:19
to work more efficiently. And in the evening
00:50:21
this activity decreases, and so if we
00:50:23
come home from work from the night On the one
00:50:25
hand, yes, we didn’t sleep all night We
00:50:28
this fatigue has accumulated. We seem to
00:50:30
have to want to sleep more, but on the other
00:50:32
hand, when we try to go to bed in
00:50:34
the morning, we have a different Brain system
00:50:37
which is the internal clock, which is
00:50:38
responsible for morning activity, but
00:50:40
on the contrary, it begins to accelerate our brain
00:50:42
only and it turns out that after sleeping
00:50:44
there for only 3-4 hours in the morning Yes, these two
00:50:47
brain systems begin
00:50:49
to contradict each other, one accelerates the brain,
00:50:51
continues to accelerate it more and more by lunchtime,
00:50:53
and the other, which is responsible
00:50:54
for sleep pressure, is already gradually
00:50:58
decreasing because we have already
00:51:00
slept for some time
00:51:01
and it throws us out so offensively I remember
00:51:03
it happens Like after 4 hours of sleep And you think,
00:51:06
Here you go again, you didn’t get enough sleep again, you didn’t get
00:51:08
those 7 hours of sleep back. But what about What
00:51:10
recommendations do people who work at
00:51:12
night not to work at night? Yes, this is
00:51:14
absolutely Yes, an absolutely scientifically proven
00:51:17
recommendation: don’t work You won’t
00:51:19
return that sleep that you will spend on
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night work yes Mikhail conclusion
00:51:23
final your recommendations How to get a better
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night's sleep and fall asleep better the most important
00:51:30
recommendation is not to interfere with your sleep
00:51:33
because any activity before bedtime
00:51:36
interferes with the manifestation of your
00:51:40
already programmed
00:51:42
sleep mechanism, so now
00:51:45
turn it off before bedtime phones, watch only
00:51:48
good news or programs, communicate
00:51:51
with pleasant people and then he will be
00:51:54
quite serene and properly
00:51:56
organized, that is, don’t disturb him,
00:51:58
just thank you very much
00:52:03
love and good sleep and subscribe to
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many important things

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Подписывайтесь на телеграм-канал RTVI: https://t.me/rtvimain В студии RTVI Марианна Минскер и сомнолог Михаил Полуэктов поговорили о сне. Сколько в норме нужно спать в день взрослому человеку? Можно ли выспаться на неделю вперед? Обязательно ли ложиться спать до полуночи? Что лучше для организма: спать меньше нормы или больше? Как избавиться от бессонницы? Можно ли принимать снотворное? Что означают сны? И почему людям нельзя работать ночью? Подписывайтесь на @RTVItainment и ставьте лайки RTVI Новости — все главные события в формате 24/7: https://www.youtube.com/user/myRTVi 00:00 «Нам надо поговорить». Сон 01:15 Сколько в норме нужно спать? 02:26 Если спать меньше или больше нормы, что будет с организмом? 04:15 Можно ли выспаться впрок? 06:10 О методике полифазного сна 08:49 Сколько длится глубокая часть сна? 09:32 «Если спать меньше семи часов, то сопротивляемость резко падает к инфекционным заболеваниям» 11:06 Что такое энергетический пересып и как он действует? 12:07 Почему после дневного сна чувствуешь себя разбитым? И нужен ли он вообще? 13:55 Насколько важно ложиться до 12? 16:55 Про джетлаг 19:07 Безопасно ли принимать мелатонин? 20:55 От чего зависит скорость засыпания? 22:12 Почему появляется бессонница? 24:17 Лайфхаки для тех, кто не может уснуть 28:17 Почему люди храпят? И чем опасна апноэ во сне? 31:23 Как парам лучше спать: вместе или раздельно 32:25 Есть ли идеальные условия для сна? 34:51 За сколько часов до сна нужно перестать есть? 35:28 Можно ли запрограммировать мозг вставать в определенное время? 37:32 Все ли видят сны? 38:32 Что такое сны? 40:39 О вещих снах. Они бывают? 42:58 Стоит ли трактовать сны? 44:15 Почему снятся кошмары? 46:00 О лунатизме 48:26 Какие существуют главные мифы о снах? 49:34 Можно ли выспаться после бессонной ночи? 51:24 Рекомендации от сомнолога

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