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«Легенда». О Пугачевой
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Диана Гурцкая — про то, как Пугачева просила ее «беспокоить»
2:26
Юрий Маликов о том времени, когда Пугачева была «обычным человеком»
5:31
Как Алексей Глызин попал в музыкальный коллектив Аллы Борисовны?
7:51
Сергей Минаев о том, что делает Примадонну «артистом вне времени»
13:08
На что она благословила Алексея Глызина?
13:46
Как из-за Юлия Гусмана Пугачеву сняли с самолета во Францию?
15:28
Владимир Винокур о рецепте фаршированной рыбы для Аллы Борисовны
18:04
Диана Берлин про то, могла ли Пугачева «давить» тех, кто ей не угоден
22:46
Группа «На-на» о том, как подтолкнули Аллу Борисовну к браку с Киркоровым
23:47
Почему она не пропустила Макса Покровского (признан иноагентом) на «Евровидение»?
27:26
Как Пугачева помогла Сосо Павлиашвили?
28:33
«Я по всему полю за ней побежала» — Галина Ненашева о знакомстве с Пугачевой
32:12
Почему Пугачева «перестала существовать» для Оскара Кучеры?
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Диана Берлин про то, как Пугачеву «достали»
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Pugacheva could not form the
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stage in the 90s, she was not yet Pugacheva,
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she was just a person, something red
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sticking out is
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incomprehensible, absolutely this is not settling
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scores with Alla Pugacheva,
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let's go, people are waiting, 5,000 people are
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now going to kill me We are going to
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PAZik, she wants to go Boris is a capricious
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star, of course we all
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idolized and adored our goddess, the decision
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was voiced by Pugacheva,
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no Pugacheva could order when she
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had to be tough, she was tough, she
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has no right to
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do this, a person who gained
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popularity and was loved by the public, she just
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left and slammed the door so hard that she
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offended me personally they
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got her, you understand
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[music]
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and you bother me and don’t worry,
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Alla Pugacheva once told you this is
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what you know, I’m
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actually a shy student and again I do
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n’t like to bother
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someone and always when we all get together
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somewhere- then Yes, with my colleagues I always stand
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somewhere a little further away Well, because so
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as not to disturb you again Moreover, there
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was such a story We were in Israel there
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was just such a national concert and my
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brother he was like Let’s go to
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Alvarezovna Let’s come A I say
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Listen, let’s not bother you, there’s no need now,
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if she has time, she
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’ll notice me, she’ll see me, and
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then maybe we’ll talk there somehow,
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and suddenly she sees me and says hello, we’re
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talking there, and then Robert seems to be talking about it,
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too. brother, what is she saying, she did
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n’t want to bother you But at this
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moment she says these words You often
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bothered me, it’s okay That
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was the story, in fact, a
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dear kind one said so You graduated from the
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same school as Alla Pugacheva You
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managed to work together
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practically no, I worked at Vesyolye
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guys even before Vesyolye guys she was
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friends with Slava Dobrynin and his
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wife, Slava’s first wife Ira now and
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now he has Ira and then there was only
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Ira the first and they had a
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small apartment on Gorky Street
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on Tverskaya next to city ​​hall and, in my opinion, 19
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75, in my opinion, we met before the company
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Ira Slava, me and Lucy and the five of us drank
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all night long. They were drinking loudly,
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she was not Pugacheva yet, she was just a
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person, not a Legend, but Alla was a good
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person, then she even talked about it
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somewhere - then I remembered later when at
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some holiday she was a gem for 30 years.
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I was invited to an ovation award, she gave me an ovation for some reason that is
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still popular. Why
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Well, you understand, Pugachev is a phenomenon in
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her Here is the role in her role She,
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if she had stayed in genre of Via,
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then she would also be somewhere, so to
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speak, and Buinov and Glyzin, first of
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all, Pugacheva and Lenya Berger from the
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Merry Guys all left Because it’s
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impossible to keep yourself within the team
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for a long time, for a certain period Well,
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even it all started out of the blue Well everything was
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clear that the four of them were a little cramped,
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everyone wanted to be either his wife or a
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friend or
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Yoko Tam or some other person there,
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dragging him to their side and everyone
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tried not to stick out their name, but
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to show it even more, so she became Pugacheva
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independently and as an artist, this is a person
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who has achieved
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perfection in her creativity, which is why a
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more inconspicuous person enters the genre within the VIA genre, and when he
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becomes alone and he is invited, but a
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team is immediately created around him
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that begins to work for him,
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how did you get into Alla Pugacheva’s team for
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me my friend Vitalik kindly called, he was
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then working
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[music]
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as a guitarist, he says
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[music]
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musicians, but with very good
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instruments and so on, with some
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data, I already had an
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American guitar there, a
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friend of a microphone. Good, so different.
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Okay, I looked at it all, listened to him,
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he says, Okay good and I started
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working in her team, she always
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gathered everyone in her suite. So we always
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built some fun parties
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where they always talked about the prospects
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about where we would go just today where
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we would be there was a very friendly team I was
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very friendly with
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Talgat this guitar player he was the most
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Samarkand is now working
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fillet victorious Kirkorov guitarist
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relationships everyone of course
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idolized the
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goddess
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because she
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was very democratic
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when it was necessary
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we were always together now
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like that They all played something I didn’t
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leave then there was such a thing there was a
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family we lived like one big friendly
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family how did you start working with Alla
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Pugacheva? In
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my opinion, Borisovna wanted to enter the
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disco because it has always been and
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remains innovative. Before that there was
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rock music, she tried herself in
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rock music. When the disco appeared,
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Sergei’s holders appeared. She realized that
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why not try and she and I
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even skated several programs where she
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already performed like such a star, such a
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butt artist, she began to move more,
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she began to dress differently, she
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changed her repertoire, she is a very smart
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person and therefore, when she came, she constantly changed
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her surroundings, her entourage,
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including human She has always changed
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and that’s why she’s like that, you know
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the word and I don’t want to say it, that’s why
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she’s so constant, so constant. Alla Pugacheva, so as not to say for a long time, she’s so constant
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because you can watch her at any
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time and she’s like an artist of
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existing material. By the way, she’s the author
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of this you know, when she’s the author,
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I’m especially pleased that we have on Bobbleheads not
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people who have, let’s say, education
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and a certain amount of not so much, this is not the
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profession where it’s needed, an artist, an actor, he’s
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you. Don’t get me wrong, let them
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hope they don’t watch us, this is still a
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profession We are not for great intelligence,
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we are a performer, we carry out the will of those who
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control us, a director, a producer, and so
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on, any artist who begins
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to get out of this scheme, as a rule,
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always achieves something special;
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technologies make it possible to create a star out of any
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doll.
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Well, this
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is difficult to amaze a sophisticated viewer; I am a
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sophisticated viewer therefore, you can impress me with
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technology, you won’t impress me,
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because when I look at the
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person entering, these technologies are dancing.
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What video effects, what costumes, how is
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it all edited, how is it all done,
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But it has nothing to do with the artist,
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you know, it has something to do with it
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to his image, which is created by 100 people
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standing behind him, they may be
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more talented than him, take off this
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tinsel and you will see what he is.
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Is it easy to work with her?
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When I was with her, I did
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n’t perform any administrative functions, let’s
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say for example I remember this is significant,
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but Borisovna is a capricious star here and
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something happened, it seems in Odessa she
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refused to go on stage or something. There,
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I think it was not connected with her
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bad mood and well-being, it’s quite
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possible she was sick But something happened to
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her once they brought it two they brought it three they brought it
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there there may be some kind of administrative
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violation there may be a financial violation maybe
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the scenery can’t sound the wrong one they brought
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it you know it’s very important sometimes especially
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when it’s one another in the third she
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refused to go to her son what did the
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administrators do they brought me to her they sent me
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because I was such a favorite then,
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not her favorite, but the favorite, the team
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treated me well,
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I don’t know what to do, then I realized
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that I
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just had to ask her to come out
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because we young people really needed it
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because we
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just couldn’t live without her it’s natural for us to speak to young people
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Those who are
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on the same stage with her because without her This
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program will not work
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their
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administrators
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I perfectly understand any artist if you
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give him the right
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smart compliment without you know the leaves are such a
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nasty thing If you feel it,
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any artist if a normal one feels
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He maybe go wild, so you need to, to put it
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mildly, from afar with a quote with
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some of your own feelings With a
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mention of those who are there, another 300 people
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are standing and crying how everything needs to be done
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preferably subtly then it will work it
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worked in the evening she worked
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and what did you tell her
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I know what would I say now,
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I would be very flattered,
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I would remember her 20 works, I
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would put them on shelves and say that it’s like this here,
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because we will work without you today,
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then I don’t know what I did,
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probably, maybe it was so clumsy
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Maybe I was just watching,
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let's go, people are waiting, 5,000 people are
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now going to kill me I'm the presenter
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[music]
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it's true that when you decided to leave
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Pugacheva she blessed you, I went to
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her dressing room after the concert and looked for her And
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here's the story I was invited cheerfully
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Guys and she said
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that I have walked the
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path of this team, go for it, that is, without
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tears and scandals, she said,
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I bless
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and hugged, I went, I decided, guys, because of
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you, Alla Borisovna One day they filmed a plane
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to France, what kind of story did they offer
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these guys, the Americans,
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it was in September 5,
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they have a
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million holiday people
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are going to a music festival, they want to get a signal
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from Moscow and give us our signal,
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then it means the first
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giant cranes appeared,
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all of these were
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supported by Ambassador Lapin, supported And who
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did what, he doesn’t know and I suggested that
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I took the floor somewhere, but let’s do it
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this way, we’ll collect everything materials from the Friendship of
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America USSR Union is full of history and
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relationships and then they
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will arrange a super evening in our big first Ostankino studio,
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invite 200 boys, girls of the
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most elite universities, fun seed at night,
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dance them, get them charged and take
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the best, our acts,
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females, our greats were so supported
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that Alla Borisov Pugacheva was still Alla
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Pugacheva, they took her off the plane to France, she
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came with her
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entourage and swore. So I liked the way
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we
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sang here and in general it
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was an amazing two days. Tell me
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the story of how your mother exchanged the recipe for
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stuffed fish with Pugacheva.
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When I
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was at the Olympic complex on Prospekt Mira concert
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our
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big concert of the national team
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and met the still young Alla
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Borisovna, 86,
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and my mother says Vovka is going to
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Kursk tomorrow on tour, come with her husband
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Zhenya Boldina Come to us, I’ll
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make stuffed fish, I’ll treat you and
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Alla says My mother made
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stuffed fish Well, my mother became
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ask how that I don’t know at all but
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get ready to come Well, you all know how an
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element of politeness Come to us Yes
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thank you Hello tomorrow I’m going to
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go to the hero city of Kursk and
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Zhenya Balding calls me says And you forgot that we
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were invited to Kursk so he says that we
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are ready to go
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I say let's get ready at the Kursk station,
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here I am, the 8th train, he says she
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asks But we can't. We're going on a
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groove there, but the bus
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was so small,
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she wants to take it for 500 kilometers. Yes,
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we'll go normally, or just don't go at night. Go
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early in the morning. let's go out
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Well, I came to my brother, I tell my father to my mother that
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they don’t even believe how
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Zhenya arrived, which means there is a revolution in the city
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because there was a rumor that
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Boris came to meet my
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relatives, they suddenly thought, although she
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arrived with her husband, it
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was simply impossible to walk the streets then he took her St.
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Sergius there, we have such an old
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sixteenth-century cathedral
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about there, everyone was stunned then, and
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even
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our regional committee parties at work
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said Let’s better get my job out of town
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because well, she was just
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happy, she still remembers this
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trip Although a lot of time has passed,
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but Alla and I met when we met. Do you remember, do
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you remember in the seventies? The eighties. The
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national stage was formed by the
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editors of the state radio. Is it true
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that in the nineties, Pugacheva began to do this in many ways?
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No, I’ll say right away that
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this is not so, it’s some kind of
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vain,
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I’ll say an unpleasant word now, but
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forgive me guys,
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Pugacheva couldn’t form losers in
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the nineties,
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she was in perfect order,
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she released a
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large discography album with all the
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luxurious recordings and in connection with this we
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made
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Pugacheva, no one told us, no one
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indicated She never called or
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asked
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she came She was on the air for half a day, it went
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straight from 8 in the morning, her songs she came at two
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and somewhere until 4 to 5 she was on the air
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answering questions We were with her There is
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photographic evidence of absolutely everything and of
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course everyone who was there at that time in the radio station everyone
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came running to this floor. But what to say, they
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adored her, it’s true,
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so to say that she is and where. Which
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radio stations formed themselves already in the nineties
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and no Pugacheva could order
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because behind the formation there was
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money; advertising had already begun. Who
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could Pugacheva speak where? take this
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don’t take it excluded Pugacheva lives
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in her life she lived and will live and God
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forbid she lives this A talented person
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you understand this genre in every genre
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We have our own Leader
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and when they leave we begin Oh,
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how we must appreciate these people today and
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don’t close it, don’t put an end to it when they are
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not there, it’s not at all wrong, we
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get Ivans who don’t remember their kinship And
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this is where the fall begins, so when we
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talk about Pugacheva Let’s remember everything
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she did Well, everything that we didn’t
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like was
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just me so it happened the first
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competition of pop artists it was My
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first assignment on the radio to go and
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watch and interview the
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chairman of the jury Utesov, you can
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imagine the old one
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Yes, and Pugacheva sang 2 songs, it would be
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good, good, and Ermolova is pure ponds Well,
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serious songs,
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absolutely two different Pugachevs came out
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like this like that, I don’t understand That there’s something
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red sticking out that’s
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absolutely incomprehensible, she sang one
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song, she left and another came out Pugacheva,
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you understand, and they didn’t give first place
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to anyone, that’s how strict the selection was,
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but skinny Leonie understood. He came up and said everything,
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and Shulzhenko, who adored her, then
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all today’s ones poured in. Well,
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what a sin. We will still
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remember and the colonel we will remember
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the real one, not the real one, and all the songs are
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hooked, brilliant songs. God
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bless Alexander Sergeevich, you understand,
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and it’s not just that she sang, she played
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Every song And everything that was spus and
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what Alla Pugacheva herself wrote as a
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composer, for many she may
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have heard
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Shakespeare’s Mandelstam for the first time. Well, there’s no offense in that,
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people didn’t know, didn’t read, but suddenly
00:22:37
they listened and maybe tomorrow they’ll go
00:22:39
see
00:22:42
Pugacheva is Pugacheva and she will
00:22:44
always be Pugacheva to no one she forbade
00:22:48
absolutely no one, she didn’t put pressure on it, it wasn’t the
00:22:52
Tsar’s business. It’s true that you
00:22:55
pushed Pugacheva to marry
00:22:57
Kirkorov, this bar probably
00:22:59
contributed to the bar, gave me this idea, it was
00:23:01
just at my birthday,
00:23:03
we were sitting in the restaurant. Carriage Row, a
00:23:06
small company was there
00:23:09
with the guys
00:23:12
Borisovna arrived from Chelobanov and
00:23:15
Philip arrived, I think it was Artur
00:23:18
Gasparyan, a journalist
00:23:20
[music]
00:23:22
Chelobanov was already leaving and Bari
00:23:25
threw this one in, let’s
00:23:30
pick up this idea and off we go. Well, in short,
00:23:33
I think that not without a relationship, of course
00:23:35
they probably had some kind of sympathies
00:23:37
Philip very much loved
00:23:40
and somehow it was in a natural way, but
00:23:44
as if yes with ours before our eyes Why did
00:23:47
n’t Alla Borisovna let you through to
00:23:50
Eurovision? We didn’t have a worthy
00:23:52
opponent, we were kind of banned by our own
00:23:55
jury, this decision was announced by
00:23:59
Pugacheva, but personally nothing against her I don’t
00:24:02
have it because she was just expressing an
00:24:04
opinion, so she might have stuck to it, she
00:24:07
might not have stuck to it, but nevertheless I
00:24:09
repeat, this is not settling scores by Alla
00:24:13
Pugacheva. It’s just a
00:24:14
historical fact. She said that well, a
00:24:18
group came to Europe with such a song. With all the
00:24:20
buzz that the guys gave out, all
00:24:23
that. You can’t send Of course, we would have
00:24:25
torn Europe apart then, but then again, these
00:24:32
were probably the standards Pugacheva didn’t let you
00:24:36
into Eurovision And you wrote a song for her,
00:24:38
the heart pulls your hands It’s an honor for
00:24:41
you To be honest, in the best
00:24:45
sense of the word, I don’t know In what
00:24:48
words emphasize
00:24:53
to me anyway,
00:24:56
we’re still not because I want to
00:24:58
disown it’s a
00:25:00
great song,
00:25:03
but not because I want to join,
00:25:06
but in a
00:25:08
human way, she called me and said I’ll
00:25:11
take your song, here Alla
00:25:15
Borisovna Pugacheva simply acted like a
00:25:18
true professional and that’s what I’m
00:25:21
proud of I’m proud of not even myself anymore, but
00:25:24
I’m more proud of her because she
00:25:27
absolutely shouldn’t have done this and the
00:25:30
fact that Pugacheva remained a
00:25:33
woman and a noble professional,
00:25:36
so I’m proud that I have a life in a
00:25:39
professional sense I brought this
00:25:41
person together because working with a
00:25:44
person who respects another
00:25:47
and even Let it be on this modest
00:25:52
scale that my name stands next to her
00:25:54
my name stands with the right person
00:25:57
I’m proud of this And you haven’t worked with her before
00:26:02
No, you haven’t worked creatively, but Alla
00:26:05
Borisovna Pugacheva invited us to
00:26:08
Christmas meetings somehow
00:26:10
year we performed
00:26:12
two or three songs there at Christmas
00:26:15
meetings. We had guys helping her,
00:26:19
a lot of things. The guys will be my
00:26:21
assistants. This means that when the
00:26:23
scenery changed, moving from one
00:26:25
block to another, the scenery was on display at the Olimpiysky.
00:26:27
So we performed with some
00:26:29
song as if at a change
00:26:32
of scenery that was quite normal,
00:26:34
that is, we didn’t feel
00:26:36
disadvantaged in any way, so we got
00:26:38
exactly the same place on the air, it’s just that we
00:26:40
seemed to be at the junction of two, as if
00:26:43
well, the Aesthetician because he showed it to her, if
00:26:47
I’m not mistaken, everyone famous bone,
00:26:49
all this scenery. There I even saw
00:26:51
how early in the rehearsals I was swearing with him there in the
00:26:54
good sense of absolutely the word yes yes yes
00:26:55
time and so on. All this was very
00:26:58
nice, that’s why I even
00:27:00
mentioned Pugachev
00:27:02
and in the context of denying our our
00:27:07
opportunity to go to Eurovision, I
00:27:08
then said that I don’t hold any
00:27:10
grudge against the singer. She was the chairman;
00:27:14
she had it. I have bitterness from this,
00:27:17
but not evil, not anger and desire, somehow
00:27:21
I don’t know. In no case, my great
00:27:24
respect to Alla Pugacheva
00:27:26
of many artists
00:27:30
Alla Borisovna when
00:27:34
such a radio existed Alla She was
00:27:37
probably the only one who
00:27:39
played my songs, she really liked
00:27:42
my performance, she once even
00:27:46
invited me to
00:27:48
Christmas meetings, that was
00:27:51
once, but I remember that evening.
00:27:54
Until now, what dedication there was, how everyone
00:27:58
worked even during rehearsals and she
00:28:01
just didn’t leave for a second She
00:28:05
stood with a microphone, she directed, she
00:28:08
praised, she scolded She was all She took
00:28:11
part in everything, it was grandiose It
00:28:15
was simply grandiose, as if Fomka
00:28:18
district was standing here, the conductors were conducting a
00:28:20
huge Viennese there, that was the
00:28:24
feeling
00:28:25
[music]
00:28:33
you were a fan of Alla
00:28:36
Pugacheva’s work at the beginning of her career. And today I
00:28:42
heard we had a concert at the stadium, but
00:28:46
now there were some festive concerts at the stadiums.
00:28:48
As always, I
00:28:51
almost finished the program somewhere
00:28:53
and arrived earlier and watched, as they
00:28:59
say, not behind the scenes there, somewhere
00:29:04
from the side, I heard her for the first time.
00:29:08
She worked it out and
00:29:11
I liked her so much
00:29:14
and she runs across a big field. There's a tent
00:29:17
running there, tents for us for the birds, we're
00:29:21
changing clothes like this. I ran after her all over the field.
00:29:27
I thanked her. I thanked her all
00:29:32
because that I really liked her and
00:29:36
here
00:29:38
I can’t say anything about the fact that then
00:29:41
I didn’t like everything, this was some kind of
00:29:44
behavior that I heard there on the air
00:29:47
there All that stuff But I didn’t have much friendship with her
00:29:52
as such, she wasn’t there she did
00:29:57
n’t invite me anywhere and in general,
00:30:00
in short, I always had great sympathy for her.
00:30:03
But now,
00:30:06
lately, when I hear
00:30:09
some, some weren’t even
00:30:12
the last, it’s clear. What I hear there is
00:30:15
as if she left there or something,
00:30:18
but I always,
00:30:25
but not always, but nevertheless, when she
00:30:32
worked lately and became some kind of so-
00:30:34
called star, I did
00:30:38
n’t really like it and the behavior that I
00:30:40
and in the press there felt something to me.
00:30:43
Frankly speaking, I didn’t I liked this
00:30:46
behavior, this speech, a statement
00:30:48
there, some kind of everything, and I was disappointed because
00:30:53
I liked her, she had no right to
00:30:56
behave so-so somewhere, she
00:30:58
had no right, she became a favorite of such a
00:31:01
public, to be treasured, but not like there is
00:31:06
no need to act out something to do it It's a
00:31:10
big deal when people love you Does the
00:31:12
popularity of such people really make it
00:31:15
in general this means I don't know I do
00:31:19
n't understand it Moreover, when you are
00:31:22
popular you should be more lenient
00:31:25
even towards everyone here, not only After all,
00:31:28
you see Ah you
00:31:30
with hugs and someone does all sorts of things There is
00:31:35
a conversation No, you
00:31:38
serve, you serve for the people, the people
00:31:40
accepted you, which means Serve to the last and
00:31:43
be loved to the last and somewhere
00:31:46
talk to people
00:31:48
there somewhere then finding out
00:31:51
what - this kind of raid
00:31:54
really does
00:31:57
n’t seem to have the right
00:32:00
to be made by a person who
00:32:02
gained popularity and was loved by the public. Well, that
00:32:05
means I just
00:32:08
don’t know after the start of her Pugacheva
00:32:11
left Russia so you think about it,
00:32:14
for me Pugacheva ceased to exist
00:32:16
at all not because she left No
00:32:18
because she’s like Galkin because
00:32:20
she just left, she slammed the door so hard
00:32:23
that she offended me personally
00:32:26
by calling me a
00:32:28
slave And what she said, I don’t remember now.
00:32:38
something like this,
00:32:41
well, this is a phrase I do
00:32:43
n’t remember now, I don’t remember evil, I’ll
00:32:45
take it again, it’s called remember Vysotsky there was
00:32:47
such a song and Thank God I don’t
00:32:49
remember evil, but I understand perfectly well that for
00:32:51
me the
00:32:52
man Pugacheva, the artist Pugacheva, simply ceased to exist No,
00:32:55
she is a wonderful artist and she is the songs
00:32:58
that she made here while living in the
00:33:00
Soviet Union, they are great, so the
00:33:02
artist Pugacheva has nothing to do with it, but the
00:33:05
person is an artist. Unfortunately, these are different
00:33:07
things. And
00:33:11
now the person Pugacheva does not exist for me
00:33:13
And you took her words as a
00:33:16
personal insult,
00:33:18
you know detained offensively, there is such
00:33:20
an expression I’m not joking now, I’m absolutely
00:33:22
serious I can’t imagine how those
00:33:24
people can, my mother I don’t know who lives
00:33:27
here, grandmothers who are now grandmothers
00:33:30
just like Pugacheva grew up on her
00:33:33
songs
00:33:34
My generation, expressed by her song, the
00:33:37
generation there is 10 older years Well, how
00:33:40
can you say just like that, imagine
00:33:42
the people who supported her with money,
00:33:46
she built all these castles with what money
00:33:49
and no one is against castles,
00:33:51
I’m all for it and the more there are, the
00:33:53
better the country will be, but with what money
00:33:55
she didn’t steal but I hope that
00:34:00
people carried this money in
00:34:02
rubles, they
00:34:04
voted at her concerts,
00:34:07
I buy her records,
00:34:09
buying her songs on the Internet,
00:34:12
today’s youth are already in there. It’s all
00:34:14
dripping in.
00:34:16
I would once and for all now just
00:34:18
stop RAO with her at all so that there would be
00:34:21
no more payments. Just there
00:34:24
wasn’t after what she said you
00:34:26
went crazy Sorry Well I just have no
00:34:29
words I swear I have no words relations
00:34:32
man Pugacheva
00:34:35
how could it be that as for there is a
00:34:37
punishment right there and ban RAO from
00:34:41
paying any money and let
00:34:43
her sue in this Musa that
00:34:45
Putin decided to arrest
00:34:49
two morons, this is power.
00:34:52
But having honestly
00:34:53
left the country, Alla Pugacheva called the people who
00:34:56
condemned her serfs and slaves, do you
00:34:59
think she had the right, so to speak, the
00:35:01
wording in the words is a personal matter of the
00:35:04
person, you
00:35:06
got her, you understand,
00:35:10
every person
00:35:14
in the period before stachi he doesn’t know what he
00:35:18
will say And what he will do I saw people of
00:35:21
the finest intelligentsia understand
00:35:25
me my main my teacher is
00:35:29
absolutely wonderful all over the grass you in
00:35:32
general
00:35:34
when they got her from above they
00:35:37
got her Yes
00:35:39
She came smoking and the words that
00:35:42
she said I can’t tell you repeat
00:35:46
this in practice, she was all like that, well,
00:35:51
her whole family was just ex-ex And she’s
00:35:54
from the ex, but they bothered her with nonsense. What is this?
00:36:01
You can imagine the question
00:36:03
the leader asks: What is Hallelujah
00:36:07
and she had to explain what it
00:36:11
is, how to pronounce it correctly,
00:36:13
you know,
00:36:15
in this one. in this state, I think
00:36:20
it was Pugacheva, she didn’t say you
00:36:24
all, no,
00:36:27
she meant those who were insulting.
00:36:30
Just really insulting to her
00:36:34
in public. But for some reason, each
00:36:38
of these people considered it possible to spit
00:36:41
when she was not there, but I want her to
00:36:44
come and gather these people and let
00:36:48
them say it all as honest
00:36:51
noble people Alla Borisovna you and
00:36:55
forward and further we will see
00:37:00
she is happy now and thank God
00:37:04
[music]

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Подписывайтесь на телеграм-канал RTVI: https://t.me/rtvimain В этом выпуске «Легенды» Диана Гурцкая, Юрий Маликов, Алексей Глызин, Сергей Минаев, Владимир Винокур, Сосо Павлиашвили и другие звезды рассказали, какие воспоминания у них остались про Аллу Пугачеву и что думают о ее отъезде из России. Подписывайтесь на @RTVItainment и ставьте лайки RTVI Новости — все главные события в формате 24/7: https://www.youtube.com/user/myRTVi 00:00 «Легенда». О Пугачевой 01:17 Диана Гурцкая — про то, как Пугачева просила ее «беспокоить» 02:26 Юрий Маликов о том времени, когда Пугачева была «обычным человеком» 05:31 Как Алексей Глызин попал в музыкальный коллектив Аллы Борисовны? 07:51 Сергей Минаев о том, что делает Примадонну «артистом вне времени» 13:08 На что она благословила Алексея Глызина? 13:46 Как из-за Юлия Гусмана Пугачеву сняли с самолета во Францию? 15:28 Владимир Винокур о рецепте фаршированной рыбы для Аллы Борисовны 18:04 Диана Берлин про то, могла ли Пугачева «давить» тех, кто ей не угоден 22:46 Группа «На-на» о том, как подтолкнули Аллу Борисовну к браку с Киркоровым 23:47 Почему она не пропустила Макса Покровского (признан иноагентом) на «Евровидение»? 27:26 Как Пугачева помогла Сосо Павлиашвили? 28:33 «Я по всему полю за ней побежала» — Галина Ненашева о знакомстве с Пугачевой 32:12 Почему Пугачева «перестала существовать» для Оскара Кучеры? 34:55 Диана Берлин про то, как Пугачеву «достали»

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