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Good evening everyone, you are watching and listening to the00:00:34
Youtube channel live nail at the microphone I am00:00:36
Lisa Anikina This is the program the price of the issue00:00:37
Sergei Aleksashenko Sergei Vladimirovich00:00:39
Hello00:00:41
Lisa Good evening Hello viewers00:00:43
Hello listeners let's start the00:00:45
situation around the rain TV channel00:00:47
How do you assess what happened00:00:50
starting from mistakes I still think that00:00:52
this is a mistake by Alexei Korostelev on air and00:00:55
further consequences00:00:59
Well,00:01:00
this is a very complex topic. Moreover, I am00:01:04
quite straightforward and not00:01:08
too well versed in all the00:01:10
intricacies of the work of the00:01:12
media. But as far as I understand, the00:01:15
Rain TV channel had some00:01:17
problems before this also with the Latvian00:01:21
regulator and actually there were two00:01:23
episodes and in this situation the00:01:26
TV channel managers had to be00:01:29
doubly careful about what happened on00:01:32
the air. In my opinion, I watched this00:01:35
episode, I was clearly confused, that is, judging by the00:01:39
following comments there00:01:41
were some technical things00:01:47
called guest and the Man needed to00:01:51
fill the air to get out of a00:01:58
comfortable situation and00:02:02
in general, let's say this Yes, he said not that it is00:02:05
permissible to speak for a00:02:08
TV channel that was not00:02:11
before correctly speaking Latvian, that is,00:02:13
in fact, a TV channel from whiskey is not00:02:15
necessary and here00:02:17
any mistake like a sapper is allowed00:02:20
alone times00:02:22
The saddest thing is that after all this, the00:02:24
management of the TV channel was completely00:02:27
confused, yes, because they first00:02:28
fired the journalist and then said that no.00:02:32
In general, it was not entirely true. Because00:02:34
if a person misspoke, he should have just00:02:35
said, Excuse me, please, yes,00:02:37
give him the floor, give him the opportunity to00:02:39
speak on air you can say that00:02:41
this is the situation, and when he was fired,00:02:44
it seems like the channel’s management accepted00:02:47
responsibility. Well,00:02:50
this is an unworthy act. Although00:02:52
no one is immune from mistakes, I know from myself that00:02:55
when you perform on air or I don’t know,00:02:58
you even record some... then there are their own videos and there are00:03:01
reservations Yes, that’s where it’s not00:03:03
always connected, not always very pleasant00:03:06
Yes, I was here recently in00:03:09
one of the conversations Well, as they say,00:03:12
I mixed up Russia and Ukraine Yes, I’m just00:03:14
saying and here my00:03:17
colleague, conversation partner, corrected me Well yes of00:03:19
course Well, that is, my thought was clear,00:03:21
but everyone has reservations,00:03:23
but it seems to me that the problem here is00:03:26
how the channel reacted to this. It00:03:30
seems to me that this is a much bigger problem00:03:31
than the problem of a journalist, but00:03:34
the biggest problem here is still the cessation the00:03:37
license of the TV channel Rain has been revoked and00:03:40
most likely there will be further difficulties00:03:42
because they are already talking about the need to00:03:44
take away the rain journalists’ visas and so00:03:46
on, you don’t have the feeling that Latvia, in00:03:49
general, has long wanted to get rid of00:03:51
the rain, then the right occasion just turned up,00:03:56
Latvia of all three The Baltic countries00:04:00
are in the most difficult situation and00:04:03
again this is their home and it’s not entirely correct to meddle in someone else’s house with its own00:04:06
charter, and it’s00:04:08
not entirely correct to meddle with your charter,00:04:10
and you need to understand that the share of the Russian-speaking00:04:13
population in Latvia is much higher than in00:04:18
Estonia, and even more so than in Lithuania and00:04:20
for a long time, again, you can talk as much as you like00:04:23
about the mistakes of the Latvian authorities about the fact00:04:26
that they allowed themselves the status of00:04:28
citizens of non-citizens, as a result of which those00:04:31
non-citizen residents of Latvia who speak00:04:34
Russian began to support Putin,00:04:36
including his aggressive foreign00:04:40
policy, but still Less than the politicians of this00:04:43
country are responsible to their00:04:44
voters Yes and the rain and what about our00:04:49
respect for it with all our love00:04:51
Who has Who has more Someone has00:04:53
less00:04:54
He was registered as a Latvian00:04:56
mass media and,00:04:57
accordingly, had to comply with those00:04:59
restrictions and those rules Those the conditions00:05:01
that were specified in his license00:05:03
But the fact that the00:05:06
channel lost its license in my understanding is a00:05:09
big tragedy. That is, I’m not very If00:05:11
I made the decision in the place of the00:05:13
Latvian authorities, then of course it wouldn’t be00:05:15
so tough, it’s clear that this00:05:17
departure is not worth it But It seems to me that the00:05:20
real problem is that And for00:05:23
some reason I don’t have a good explanation00:05:25
Besides the fact that this is apparently pressure from00:05:28
Voters E in all countries, well, in00:05:31
Lithuania in Latvia, especially in the Baltics over00:05:35
these 9 months Hmm over 10 already 9.5 months00:05:39
wars and attitudes towards Russian00:05:42
emigrants, refugees from Russia, towards the00:05:45
Russian media00:05:46
towards Russian politicians living in these00:05:48
countries, there are serious changes in00:05:51
attitude00:05:52
and let me00:05:54
remind you enough that it’s raining. I00:05:58
understand that there are problems with visas, most00:06:00
likely the journalists will have their visas revoked. I00:06:03
understand that the journalists of the new newspapers00:06:05
that work in Latvia, they also00:06:07
have such semi-bird rights there. Because00:06:09
when Dmitry Muratov came to00:06:12
this country in the spring, he and the president seemed to00:06:15
have reached an agreement, the president promised him00:06:16
support so that conditions would be created00:06:18
when the journalists arrived there,00:06:20
it turned out that everything was wrong, yes and it’s00:06:24
impossible there They’ll get them into kindergarten00:06:27
Well, and so on, yes, that is, something00:06:29
happened that I don’t know. But I’m talking about00:06:32
politicians from these countries who are not very willing to00:06:34
talk about this topic, they00:06:36
find some kind of00:06:39
diplomatic subterfuge, talk, but00:06:42
relations have changed in relation to00:06:44
changed Perhaps this is connected again,00:06:47
as I already looked there for the third time, yes,00:06:48
like a parrot. And what is this pressure from00:06:51
Voters, and perhaps this is due to the fact00:06:54
that the00:06:55
Baltic countries00:06:57
feel the burden of war, the threat of war,00:07:02
the problems of war much stronger than00:07:05
it seems to us, yes, because in in the end,00:07:07
this state is00:07:09
not very large in terms of population and territory, and from00:07:12
what is happening in Ukraine00:07:14
and in the European economy and in the economies of these00:07:17
countries, big problems arise and they00:07:20
have to pay a fairly high00:07:21
price. But again, it seems to me that to a00:07:25
lesser extent one should blame00:07:28
politicians of Latvia in what they did00:07:31
Yes, we may not understand them, we can00:07:33
say that from our point of view this00:07:36
decision still does not look entirely00:07:39
adequate Well, the same thing is approximately the former00:07:42
Prime Minister of Sweden Yes, but00:07:45
nevertheless it is necessary treat this as an00:07:47
internal political matter of the country00:07:50
which, in general, lives its own life,00:07:54
and to my greatest surprise, among00:07:57
my friends, among others, I saw a00:07:59
statement in the style of Well, finally, this is00:08:02
the opposition in quotes, the media close00:08:05
to the Kremlin are eliminating, expelling So they and00:08:08
what happiness is needed? It seems to me that00:08:10
now, when society is very strongly00:08:12
polarized, when, in principle, taking00:08:15
some kind of more or less centrist00:08:16
position, despite the fact that it was raining.00:08:25
publications opposition to the Kremlin and00:08:28
journalists politicians and so on And00:08:30
how adequate do you think it is when00:08:33
people following professional00:08:35
rules because journalism00:08:36
should not take one00:08:38
specific side are accused of I don’t know00:08:41
involvement in the Kremlin in propaganda in00:08:44
favor of the Kremlin, in principle, working for the00:08:46
Russians security forces and not only departments,00:08:50
but it seems to me that00:08:53
today only people with mental limitations can blame the rain for working for the Kremlin.00:08:56
And I wouldn’t00:08:59
like to talk about discussing these theories.00:09:03
But you00:09:05
gave me a very good muscle. Yes, about00:09:07
centrist politics, you know what00:09:10
I was thinking recently dialogue with00:09:11
my student friends, and they00:09:14
said about the same thing, it seems to me00:09:17
that now the position is again not00:09:20
my position, the position of the politicians of the00:09:22
European Baltic countries, that now is not the00:09:26
time for gray, so you can talk00:09:28
as much as you like from 50 shades of gray to 15000:09:31
shades of gray, that’s when in the yard of 194200:09:34
or 43, that is, good and evil,00:09:38
and it is not enough not to be about the Kremlin at00:09:42
this moment and the slightest attempts to talk00:09:45
about the fact that not everything is so clear, they00:09:48
can turn out Well, in this case of00:09:51
human tragedy, it seems to me that00:09:53
when it comes to good and evil then00:09:56
everything is clear here and the attempt to find the middle is00:10:01
objectively doomed to failure00:10:04
because the longer the war goes on, the more00:10:08
people die, the more bitterness there is on00:10:10
both sides. Yes And in this case it00:10:13
seems to me that the00:10:15
editorial mistake is precisely an attempt to pass between the00:10:18
trickles of rain yes an attempt to find, well,00:10:21
not exactly black and white, but to create a more00:10:24
diverse picture of the world,00:10:27
unfortunately now is not the time for such,00:10:30
for such subtle journalism, other00:10:32
problems could probably be talked about00:10:34
with shades of gray, but as far as00:10:38
uh Russian aggression in Ukraine is concerned00:10:40
Unfortunately, there is only Black and White. Do00:10:42
n’t you think that in this way a00:10:44
significant part of the doubting00:10:46
audience is pushed away by a country that does not agree with the00:10:49
Kremlin’s actions00:10:50
because we are somehow used to it? It seems to me that00:10:52
in our world we can navigate that00:10:53
there are those who drown for the Kremlin, there are those who00:10:56
is pushing against the Kremlin But a huge00:10:58
part of the audience is that very gray00:11:00
zone, these are people who either haven’t00:11:02
made up their minds or they just00:11:04
told me from TV These are other00:11:05
opinions I haven’t heard, so that’s probably00:11:07
how it is And it’s with these people00:11:09
Probably we probably need to talk to00:11:10
these people, we need to explain that00:11:13
everything is not as they say on TV, but00:11:15
you can’t explain this to people through00:11:17
a position, everyone who supports Putin is00:11:21
rare creatures. Let’s burn them at the00:11:23
stake and generally lock them up in Russia so00:11:25
that they rot there and don’t they had00:11:27
no future And no opportunities, it’s00:11:28
unlikely that people will say after this00:11:30
Indeed That’s how it is, most00:11:32
likely on the contrary, they will feel00:11:34
some kind of rejection, some kind of reluctance to00:11:36
continue listening to this information,00:11:39
I honestly don’t Well, that’s what00:11:42
you said, yes It’s allowed but there are some00:11:45
absolutely extreme people who are of course there,00:11:49
and among Russian00:11:53
migrant politicians there are also such people, but it00:11:56
seems to me that this is not being discussed now00:11:58
Yes, it seems to me that after all, well, it does00:12:03
n’t work out, it’s impossible to00:12:07
be in the middle, no one is suggesting00:12:10
lock Russians inside the country Yes, and the00:12:13
same Lithuania, which is quite tough on00:12:15
many00:12:17
issues there, also insisting on black and00:12:20
white and introducing restrictions for Russians00:12:22
to travel to this country with Schengen00:12:26
visas, nevertheless continues to issue00:12:28
Schengen visas for Russian00:12:30
political refugees yes that is,00:12:32
countries find and see, that is, the00:12:37
politicians of these countries know how to eat, and when they00:12:39
can find those issues in which they00:12:42
can cooperate, they can support the00:12:45
Russians who have a clearly00:12:47
defined opposition policy. Well, to00:12:50
talk about what needs to be closed in general, it00:12:53
seems to me that00:12:58
the rain is the nail in the hole I don’t know our00:13:02
colleagues there from other channels that we00:13:05
have any opportunities to reach00:13:07
this middle audience. I think it’s00:13:09
an illusion. Why is it00:13:13
enough to look at the audience of our00:13:16
channels? Well, in general, it’s enough How to00:13:19
say it stagnates in volumes Yes, and we00:13:23
can talk about the fact that it00:13:26
would be completely wrong to say Yes, if00:13:27
you sum up the audience of the rain,00:13:29
the audience of the nail, I don’t know00:13:31
Feigin’s audience there Well, and so on there, not even not00:13:34
very differentiating Navalny there,00:13:36
count everyone together, even sum them all together00:13:38
Which is not true Yes, because00:13:40
there is significant overlap in the00:13:41
audience that is, all the same, this is what we are talking00:13:43
about there from a maximum of 10% of the Russian00:13:46
population, ten percent of Russian00:13:47
Voters, and beyond the boundaries of this Circle00:13:50
But we can’t get out And this is not ours,00:13:53
so to speak, not our shortcoming Yes This is00:13:56
Our problem this is a problem Well, unfortunately, it’s a00:14:00
modern one the life of the everyday00:14:04
average Russian who00:14:06
really, let's say, is in00:14:07
the middle and would like, well, maybe to00:14:11
understand what is happening there, but is not ready to00:14:14
put a lot of effort into it, that is, you00:14:16
cannot demand from00:14:17
the average Russian that00:14:20
he engage in fact checking and, having heard the00:14:23
difference in opinions on nails and on00:14:27
Channel One he was right there in the forest on the Internet and00:14:29
spent 2 hours trying to find out who is00:14:31
right and who is wrong, it doesn’t happen. And00:14:35
unfortunately, that’s all we say and that’s where00:14:39
our main audience is. Yes, it’s the00:14:42
same and it’s unfortunately is not growing and now00:14:46
talk about what But if it rained00:14:48
if Rain If it was a nail if00:14:52
Navalny if Khodorkovsky like00:14:54
took some more moderate position00:14:56
if they were broadcasting there00:14:59
they agreed that not everything is so simple and00:15:01
something even in Russia, it’s good that00:15:03
due to this, our audience is just00:15:05
sorting out my words a little. Forgive me,00:15:07
I’m not suggesting that not everything is so00:15:09
unambiguous. I’m suggesting that we probably00:15:11
treat the00:15:14
people who are here in Russia more humanely and more calmly.00:15:17
Lisa, this is very difficult for people who00:15:20
are on the other line front, I will00:15:21
once again say, I give an example Yes, well,00:15:24
that is, this is a complete analogy of Germany in00:15:27
1943, but it is very difficult to treat the Germans00:15:29
who live in Germany in00:15:31
1943 well and say there are00:15:33
even good people there. They do something00:15:35
good, they give birth children and they00:15:38
grow bread there, they don’t know, laundries work there, they do00:15:40
n’t ride bicycles, they00:15:43
smile, they go to restaurants on Sundays,00:15:44
but they live a normal life,00:15:47
normal people, what’s the problem, there are00:15:49
normal people there, but00:15:52
unfortunately, unfortunately into a world of war where00:15:54
Russia opposed itself to the whole00:15:58
family there to a civilized person there,00:16:00
let’s say Euro-Atlantic00:16:01
civilization to Europe and then here, but to00:16:05
talk about Russia, the Russians about the people00:16:08
who remained inside the country there00:16:12
for many is a tragedy Yes, it can’t00:16:14
be and they would like to change something in your00:16:15
life there it is impossible for a reason, but00:16:18
nevertheless to say that there are good00:16:20
people there Yes there are Yes there are and they say00:16:22
just look at the Western00:16:24
media there on Internet00:16:26
channels you need to go anywhere Even there there are people00:16:30
who protest and people who00:16:31
state their position people who00:16:33
are on trial under investigation in00:16:36
prison They say and say that there00:16:38
is an average voter who has00:16:40
not yet figured it out, that he hasn’t figured it out, he doesn’t00:16:43
want to figure it out, he doesn’t want to figure00:16:45
it out, for 9.5 months he hasn’t understood00:16:47
what is good, what is bad, he hasn’t00:16:50
understood Who and why is he killing Who invaded there and why?00:16:52
Yes who and attacked whom. Where is00:16:55
the War going on and from someone? Who is00:16:58
taking away territory from whom? That is, if a person00:17:00
hasn’t figured it out for months, then it seems to me that it’s okay00:17:03
to say that, well, you know, there’s00:17:06
no need for everyone there smear with one paint yes it is00:17:09
necessary Yes00:17:12
cross and we will give her quietly to the Kremlin00:17:15
and Lisa is with us We don’t we don’t have access to00:17:18
this audience all we are trying to00:17:20
do is we are trying to reach out to her Yes00:17:23
we are trying to reach out Some people00:17:24
do it better Some people do it better00:17:27
It doesn’t turn out worse at all, but for now we are00:17:32
losing to the Kremlin and we need to00:17:33
talk about it honestly like this. Kremlin00:17:35
Propaganda can explain why, but00:17:37
again, look, take the00:17:39
middle guy there, Aunt Masha came from work,00:17:42
came from work, turned on00:17:45
Channel One, heard the news report, turned on00:17:47
Channel Two heard the news summary00:17:49
coincides turned on NTV heard the00:17:51
news summary Everything coincides three three channels00:17:53
three three times heard the same thing you00:17:55
turn on the Internet you see 25 different00:17:58
points of view And which one is True I00:18:00
watched it on TV and got it Yes, that’s00:18:03
one thing but then go deeper like this00:18:06
Why people they don’t want to trust Putin, they don’t00:18:09
want to see bad things and so on. That is,00:18:10
sociologists would explain a lot of things, but00:18:13
in principle this is exactly the position,00:18:15
but unfortunately, unfortunately,00:18:18
we’re still with TV, well, in different weight00:18:21
categories Yes, and there we can, we’re trying00:18:24
We want no need to say Yes, we don’t00:18:26
set such a task for ourselves, of course00:18:28
we do. Of course, each of us is there, I don’t00:18:32
know what at the level of a specific00:18:34
person speaking on YouTube. But what is there00:18:36
at the Media level; what I don’t know at the level of00:18:39
politicians. Of course we want to reach00:18:41
these people. but so far we haven’t00:18:43
been able to do this, well, such a sad result.00:18:47
You say they didn’t want00:18:49
to figure out why you think,00:18:55
because00:19:58
and until Mikhail Gorbachev00:20:01
started the policy of glasnost00:20:04
until the same newspapers that were the00:20:07
same television who were not00:20:09
talking about what was previously00:20:11
forbidden for the majority of people Well, someone00:20:13
was whispering and someone knew something, but00:20:16
in principle people lived their own00:20:18
lives. They didn’t really understand what00:20:20
was there in the Soviet history And there was a00:20:22
Molotov-Ribbentrop lipak yes And how00:20:25
massive were the repressions And how many00:20:27
people died in the civil war And00:20:29
how many fled from Soviet Russia and00:20:31
how many died in the Second World War00:20:32
That is, there are all these questions Well, that is,00:20:35
separately again there is some kind of narrow group00:20:36
She lets people know about this. I don’t know,00:20:38
five percent, maybe 7% of the population00:20:41
talked about it, but the main main part of the00:20:43
people, she lived yes. And until00:20:46
they appeared above this, numerous ones00:20:48
there were not published, the00:20:51
novels lying on the shelves were not published there.00:20:54
the films that were lying on the floor didn’t come out00:20:56
and the bulk of the population did00:20:59
n’t know anything about it when it all came out and00:21:01
when Gorbachev needed the first congress of00:21:03
people’s deputies Yes,00:21:06
he let it in. What is called live broadcast00:21:08
too It turned out that there were some00:21:10
politicians who could say who00:21:12
spoke much better than the tongue-tied00:21:14
party leaders who could00:21:17
explain to people what is good, what is00:21:19
bad and the country began to change00:21:22
public opinion nothing changed00:21:23
again this did not happen in one day or in00:21:25
one night it took time But00:21:28
to close all this, do exactly00:21:29
this Putin began to engage in this from the first00:21:31
days of his stay in the Kremlin, and so did many00:21:34
other dictators. He has advanced quite successfully00:21:37
in this direction.00:21:39
Because I don’t know a single dictator00:21:41
who lived in conditions of Freedom of the00:21:43
media. The first thing he does is: A00:21:45
limits freedom of speech.00:21:47
Freedom of information for00:21:49
people does not limit their knowledge Yes, and00:21:52
Putin did it and therefore people have no00:21:53
desire to understand it. It’s too00:21:55
complicated. Let Putin think for us, we00:21:57
trust him, we wish you good things, he made our00:21:59
lives better, he made us richer.00:22:03
Well, it’s good if we talk about freedom of00:22:05
speech Doesn’t Latvia’s action in this00:22:07
situation contradict freedom, the00:22:10
very idea of Freedom of speech? For example, the00:22:12
Latvian Association of Journalists already00:22:13
said that this is wrong. So00:22:15
we should have different values, and in principle,00:22:17
well, this is really a mistake, this is really a00:22:20
rather weak reason for in order to00:22:22
revoke00:22:24
Lisa's license, I said it If I were in the place of the00:22:26
Latvian politicians I would not have done this00:22:28
I found another solution00:22:33
for this situation I think that this00:22:36
decision is wrong but I cannot00:22:38
say it again this is the Latvian00:22:40
media in Latvia00:22:42
on the other side of the00:22:45
front line from Russia and they look at the00:22:47
information space of their country00:22:49
based on their national interests.00:22:52
So they saw this situation in this00:22:55
way, they reacted in this way00:22:57
to what the rain said before, to what the00:23:01
rain showed before, and to the fact00:23:04
that what statements were made by the heads of the00:23:06
TV channel again, this is the decision of00:23:08
Latvian politicians, we may00:23:10
like it, but we may not like it,00:23:14
yes Well, this is a different country, they have00:23:18
such decisions, but at the same time they well00:23:20
understand that there is a00:23:23
huge number in Latvia for other publications of00:23:25
television and radio Internet for which00:23:28
no repressions are not carried out,00:23:31
unlike Russia where there is an all-out00:23:33
struggle against dissent, otherwise in Latvia this is an00:23:36
isolated case,00:23:38
not a speech against Freedom of Speech00:23:43
Lisa, this is a speech against Freedom of00:23:46
Speech, yes, because the Independent00:23:49
Journalist Channel is closed, but it is closed on the00:23:51
basis of the violations that the00:23:52
Latvian regulator saw in my00:23:55
opinion this, I don’t know, the World Cup is going on,00:23:59
yes And I don’t know there is a violation of the00:24:03
rules, one football player is an opponent and the00:24:06
judges can look at this00:24:08
situation differently, someone can, well, in general, like a00:24:10
game moment, the ball went to your00:24:12
team Well, like Play, someone will stop, someone will00:24:14
step, someone will stop even a00:24:16
free kick, even a yellow card And someone00:24:18
will get angry, remember that even before that there were00:24:20
five similar violations on the00:24:22
part of this football player and send him off,00:24:23
yes, this is a human reaction to the00:24:27
same situation may be different00:24:29
And here again Well, I will repeat that this is the decision of00:24:32
Latvian politicians and they have to answer to00:24:35
their voters, we can make00:24:37
claims against them, we can be00:24:39
dissatisfied, we may not like it,00:24:42
we can say that this is an inadequate00:24:44
decision, but in the end, this is a different00:24:47
country with other interests,00:24:50
well, what do you think about the statement of00:24:52
Dmitry Bykov who canceled the00:24:54
event that was scheduled for00:24:56
December 20 in Riga, explaining that he does not want to00:24:58
celebrate his birthday in a country where00:25:00
independent estimates have drive licenses quote00:25:03
number of positions of Dmitry Bykov00:25:05
which I respect which I am sympathetic to00:25:09
person As a free citizen, he has the right to00:25:13
live there in an unfree country as a citizen of00:25:16
the world, he has the right to his position,00:25:19
including expressing it in this way,00:25:21
here I repeat on air for the fourth time00:25:25
that I think that this is the wrong00:25:28
decision. I would have acted differently. Dmitry00:25:30
Bykov was going to come to Riga to00:25:32
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Reasonable, good, eternal Well, they say that00:25:46
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Oleg Sashinko at the microphone I'm Lisa Anikina00:27:10
another topic Putin again raised the issue of00:27:13
nuclear weapons He said that of course we00:27:16
will not brandish nuclear weapons like a00:27:18
razor, but in principle such a threat is00:27:20
growing the threat of nuclear war And what is00:27:24
this for? This is a sign that negotiations or rather,00:27:26
Russia’s desire for negotiations and00:27:28
success was not crowned with success and Putin is again00:27:31
turning to nuclear blackmail,00:27:36
perhaps. So it’s hard for us to get into the throat of00:27:39
Vladimir Putin’s head and explain the00:27:42
motives for his statements. It seems to me that00:27:46
this statement of the president00:27:48
echoes the recent one yesterday, even00:27:51
Dmitry Medvedev said that so that Russia there00:27:53
were no00:27:54
nuclear weapons, this one was00:27:57
torn to pieces Well, everything is correct, the Russian00:27:59
army is not combat-ready The Russian army00:28:00
began an aggressive war against a00:28:04
seemingly weak and small neighbor Well, let00:28:06
’s say smaller in size,00:28:09
designed for an easy victory, a small00:28:11
victorious war And then it turns out00:28:13
that there is no chance to win And in00:28:17
general, the whole task now is to try00:28:20
to defend on those lines that are00:28:23
captured, and it’s clear to Putin that00:28:26
any Peace agreement with Ukraine in00:28:29
this situation will look like Victory00:28:30
yes. The most important thing is not to give everything up, but at00:28:33
least leave some part of the territory00:28:36
for ourselves. And it’s just as00:28:40
obvious that no one will agree to such agreements with00:28:44
him, first of all, Ukraine.00:28:46
Because everything depends on it.00:28:49
Here too, it seems to me that Putin is00:28:52
so bad. Nerves. In00:28:55
principle, his nerves are so00:28:57
stable after 23 years on this post00:29:01
But it seems to me that he understands that for the00:29:03
Russian army, for the army00:29:07
that is waging an aggressive war, times00:29:09
are difficult. Moreover, it turned out that00:29:11
Ukraine can strike00:29:13
Russian military targets located00:29:15
hundreds of kilometers from the borders. And in00:29:19
general, Putin is hinting to the West that00:29:22
maybe you will calm down your00:29:25
ward there because five in his00:29:27
picture of the world, Ukraine as an00:29:29
independent state does not00:29:30
exist Yes, it is some kind of00:29:31
puppet A And if only the West00:29:36
had decided not long ago, and therefore since the West00:29:39
supports and gives there Ukraine has the weapons with00:29:42
which it is fighting, then accordingly, if the00:29:44
West does not give Ukraine weapons,00:29:46
then Zelensky will have nothing left00:29:48
to do but bow to Putin, that’s why00:29:50
the West If you continue to use00:29:52
weapons, then remember to give weapons, then remember00:29:54
Yes, here I am, I have a club that00:29:58
I I can wave Well, of course I will repeat Yes,00:30:01
as the president, we00:30:03
won’t wave a nuclear club, yes But remember that I have00:30:06
nuclear weapons00:30:07
Putin didn’t actually say anything new,00:30:10
but this is his Well, how can I00:30:13
say that there is a shiver of hesitation from one00:30:17
country in another, he says Yes, I00:30:19
generally speak for negotiations. Yes, no, well, you00:30:21
remember that I have nuclear weapons.00:30:22
Yes, this once again emphasizes that00:30:25
Well, he himself is already confused about these goals of the00:30:27
military operation that he launched and does not00:30:30
sleep and sees how I would like to get out of it Yes,00:30:32
how would I put an end to it Well,00:30:36
well, of course, on my own terms, but for00:30:38
here Well, what else can it be,00:30:42
and Putin also said that Russia, unlike the00:30:45
United States, does not deploy nuclear weapons on the00:30:47
territory of other countries, how00:30:48
fair is this reproach?00:30:50
why else is there a reproach? This is a statement of fact00:30:55
and the same thing can be said that And also00:30:59
Russia is not releasing iPhones as a sign of protest.00:31:02
Moreover, it is a sign of protest that Russia is not releasing00:31:06
civilian aircraft that can00:31:07
fly across the ocean and be in00:31:09
demand all over the world. And also Russia is a sign of00:31:12
protest against aggressive policies The USA,00:31:14
I don’t know, doesn’t produce good00:31:17
cars. Well, America, since the00:31:22
end of the Second World War,00:31:23
due to the fact that it stationed its00:31:28
military, created military bases, stationed00:31:30
its military personnel in different parts of00:31:33
the globe, generally ensured00:31:34
global security throughout the world, and00:31:37
there 80 years of peace after the Second00:31:40
World War, such a global peace00:31:42
without serious wars that would shake00:31:44
all of humanity, this is largely the merit of00:31:47
American policy, which ensured00:31:50
and we can talk as much as we want Yes, there is about the00:31:52
role of the world policeman, but00:31:54
nevertheless, the American00:31:57
armed forces ensured freedom of00:31:59
navigation for the whole world and there, in the 70s, 80s00:32:02
or 90s, this led to the scale of the00:32:05
gradual flourishing of globalization when00:32:07
it turned out that in general, transporting goods by sea is00:32:09
quite safe and no00:32:12
one threatens you, and that chains00:32:15
to the operational chain between enterprises00:32:17
can be built there through different00:32:19
countries, different continents,00:32:22
America opened the way for its companies00:32:25
and00:32:26
allowed them to create, export capital,00:32:29
create uh production capacities00:32:31
in other countries Yes, due to which00:32:34
in other countries the standard of living began to rise,00:32:38
economic growth was ensured A and In principle, this is the00:32:42
result of uh American00:32:44
foreign policy uh at some point at00:32:47
some point quite quickly and there00:32:49
already in the00:32:50
forty-ninth year 48 49 it became00:32:54
clear that00:32:55
Stalin intended to pursue a fairly aggressive00:32:59
policy towards00:33:01
Western Europe and to contain the00:33:03
Soviet Union, to contain its00:33:06
aggressive thoughts,00:33:08
military bases were practically created around there, along the00:33:10
perimeter of Soviet territory along the00:33:12
right perimeter of the European00:33:13
part, nuclear weapons were deployed somewhere,00:33:16
nuclear weapons were not deployed somewhere00:33:18
Yes, but actually, neither00:33:22
American politicians nor American00:33:24
military officials ever said that they00:33:26
would redirect their missiles to Tambov or to00:33:28
Voronezh, Russian diplomats talk about this00:33:30
all the time Yes, no one there,00:33:33
no Secretary of the Security Council says that00:33:35
we will turn you into nuclear Ash00:33:38
On American television, there is00:33:40
somehow no talk about this either, that’s why Well,00:33:43
America is pursuing its foreign policy, it00:33:46
has00:33:47
obvious mistakes there she has obvious00:33:49
rights00:33:50
and has something to criticize America for. Yes, but it’s00:33:54
absolutely possible to say that00:33:55
over the past I don’t know how many hundred years,00:33:59
not a hundred years. Yes, America, generally speaking, did not00:34:03
seize parts of foreign territory.00:34:06
But the Philippines. They were an American00:34:07
colony of parts of the United States. States, they00:34:09
let them go free Live00:34:11
independently in your life, yes, and now00:34:13
Rika knocks and says Yes, no Well,00:34:15
take it as the fifty-first00:34:17
state Yes, no, but Live your life00:34:19
somehow Well, well, of course you have, we00:34:21
support you very much, we love you very much You00:34:23
have your powers, but00:34:24
we are not yet ready to take you on as a staff, and so00:34:27
on, that Russia is already there under Putin. This is the00:34:30
third aggressive war in the last 1500:34:33
years, feel the difference.00:34:36
Peskov said that the Kremlin is concerned about the00:34:38
new US defense budget, which was00:34:40
approved by Congress.00:34:42
military aid to Ukraine for 800 million00:34:44
dollars and what worries the Kremlin00:34:48
Well, the Kremlin without obviously worrying00:34:50
right Peskov is worried because00:34:53
it is we One to one we see a repetition of the00:34:56
80s of the00:34:58
70s of the early eighties such an00:35:00
arms race in which already in the00:35:03
Eighties the President of Ukraine called the Soviet00:35:06
Union an evil empire and began to00:35:09
take the arms race seriously, as in00:35:12
modern language, decided to sharply00:35:15
increase the economic cost of the00:35:17
arms race for the Soviet Union, which00:35:19
the Soviet Union failed to cope with and this00:35:21
was one of the reasons for the collapse of the00:35:23
Soviet economy. But actually00:35:25
speaking now, America does not hide the fact that00:35:28
Russia, having become a threat to the world00:35:33
order, threats to security, for00:35:36
freedom of life, for a quiet life there,00:35:40
for the development of the economy, for00:35:42
tens of hundreds of thousands of people to live there, Russia has become a00:35:45
military threat, and there is no00:35:49
need to fight a military threat by military means,00:35:51
including by increasing the costs of00:35:54
armed forces and After all, we saw what was00:35:57
there before February 24, if we say so, for00:36:01
the period after February 24, the number of00:36:02
American troops stationed in Europe00:36:04
increased several times. Yes, and the number of00:36:07
weapons that the United00:36:10
States deploys in the state army in Europe expressed00:36:12
many times over; all of this requires money00:36:14
unexpectedly It turned out that America is00:36:17
ready there sharply, the American administration00:36:19
together with legislators. That is, together with the00:36:23
Congress, there is a unanimous opinion that it is00:36:25
urgently necessary to speed up work00:36:27
on creating a new strategic00:36:28
bomber B21 and so on, yes, I would00:36:33
say to a lesser extent now00:36:34
that there are 800 million for military00:36:36
assistance to Ukraine These are small elements, uh, it’s00:36:39
obvious that if the budget for00:36:43
this budget year is 20 and the second one,00:36:45
somewhere around 18,200 billion00:36:49
dollars were spent, in my opinion, if the figure is like that, then00:36:51
it’s obvious that if the war00:36:52
continues throughout the next year year00:36:55
there is a budget year from October 1 to00:36:57
September 30, it is obvious that there will be military assistance to00:37:00
Ukraine. Well, definitely no less than this00:37:02
volume, 18 million, this is total assistance to00:37:05
Ukraine, this is military assistance, military00:37:08
assistance from the United States to Ukraine, they consider00:37:12
it to be the United States, military assistance, not counting00:37:15
what else is there... my 14.5 billion was00:37:18
provided with financial assistance from the00:37:19
government of Ukraine to support the00:37:22
budget;00:37:29
it is one of the forms of formalizing00:37:32
relations between countries; it is in00:37:34
monetary terms between Ukraine and the00:37:38
United States; there are no00:37:40
parameters for these transactions; the land list removes the00:37:43
children’s law that was adopted; it00:37:45
removes bureaucratic restrictions00:37:47
allows the White House administration00:37:49
to make a decision much faster without00:37:53
missing some elements00:37:54
of approval, or significant00:37:56
elements of approval reduce the period for00:37:58
reviewing possible supplies from00:38:01
several months to days Yes, there is nothing00:38:03
else in the Giese law in this00:38:05
formulation for Ukraine, it does not contain00:38:07
some part of supplies to Ukraine00:38:10
is being formalized according to the principles, a visa of some kind00:38:12
is issued on the principle of gratuitous00:38:14
assistance Yes, this is exactly what00:38:17
it has absolutely no monetary00:38:19
value, we can’t talk about this,00:38:20
returning to this topic of Peskov Yes, he00:38:23
correctly understands that even there00:38:26
these 15-18 billion dollars in00:38:30
American weapons, they can00:38:32
seriously damage the Russian military00:38:35
machine and lead to the fact that00:38:38
Russia will ultimately lose this war, and00:38:40
therefore the Kremlin is afraid, of course, the Kremlin is00:38:43
wary, while Peskov is silent,00:38:47
and maybe he just doesn’t know what. There’s00:38:50
about 40% of the American military00:38:52
budget he there are 860, in my opinion, a billion00:38:54
dollars for the next year, generally00:38:56
speaking, pensions for military personnel, that is, they00:38:58
cannot be considered at all like00:39:01
war expenses. Yes, these are the obligations of the00:39:02
American state to the00:39:04
military personnel. Well, listen, let him00:39:06
be scared. Maybe his boss is00:39:09
also afraid of something. Maybe there, somehow,00:39:11
some reasons for the investigative connection00:39:14
began to form,00:39:16
and you said that assistance00:39:18
to Ukraine will increase over the next year00:39:20
if the armed conflict does not stop,00:39:22
and it is not believed that, on the contrary, assistance will00:39:25
gradually decrease because of00:39:27
fatigue because00:39:28
certain reserves are running out because It00:39:30
seems to me that a significant part of the00:39:32
weapons of some countries have already00:39:33
been sent to Ukraine and it is unlikely that the countries00:39:36
will continue to help to their detriment,00:39:40
unlike Russia, which has00:39:43
classified huge amounts of information there;00:39:46
Western countries00:39:48
publish a sufficient amount of data00:39:50
that allows us to see that, generally00:39:54
speaking, the United States has supplied no00:39:56
less than 3/4 of the total volume of military00:39:58
assistance to Ukraine, all these strange00:40:00
Western ones taken together, the share of the00:40:03
United States accounts for00:40:04
75%, So, accordingly, the key decision00:40:08
is the position of the United States, the rest of the countries, yes, they00:40:12
have their own problems, but they also00:40:15
understand their problems and uh, having seen that in the00:40:20
modern world war is possible, uh,00:40:22
which, well, generally speaking, becomes a protracted00:40:24
land war in which you need00:40:26
classical weapons, well, like the00:40:29
mid-20th century, that is, tanks,00:40:31
artillery Well, Germany has begun to00:40:34
restore capacity and the00:40:36
production of howitzer shells and00:40:38
tanks there, that is It is00:40:40
quite possible that next year we00:40:42
will see exactly the opposite effect due00:40:44
to the fact that this year Germany00:40:45
placed a large number of military00:40:47
orders; next year, military assistance00:40:49
from Germany to Ukraine will increase, yes,00:40:52
and in absolute terms as a00:40:55
share of the total package of military assistance we00:40:58
can only assume that we can talk about00:41:01
what could happen, but I don’t see00:41:04
so far any reason to believe that00:41:05
military assistance to Ukraine will decrease; more00:41:08
money has become known;00:41:10
the details of the ninth package of sanctions against the00:41:12
European Union against Russia are known; finals writes that00:41:15
in particular there will be a ban on investments in the00:41:17
mining sector and export00:41:19
control of dual-use goods00:41:21
worth more than 2 billion euros and00:41:24
180 individuals00:41:26
and legal entities are going to be blacklisted, and earlier, by the way, a00:41:29
ceiling on the price of oil was established.00:41:31
Serious - is00:41:33
this a serious restriction or, in general,00:41:36
everything that could be serious has already been introduced A00:41:38
further Well, it’s easy not to stand still00:41:41
and add a little more00:41:43
Well, in my opinion, this is a frivolous00:41:45
restriction because you can00:41:47
talk as much as you like about the ban on investment in the00:41:51
Russian mining00:41:52
industry, but generally speaking,00:41:54
now you still need to look for a crazy00:41:56
European investor who00:41:58
will agree to invest to Russia in this00:42:00
situation It seems to me that if the00:42:02
driver of restrictions needs to introduce00:42:04
restrictions there on the supply of these00:42:06
technologies on the supply of equipment for the00:42:09
Russian00:42:10
mining industry, although I also do00:42:12
n’t think that this will be a very serious00:42:14
blow, as for Well, the ban on00:42:17
the supply of dual-use goods, but00:42:19
you know how we hear this in every package of00:42:22
sanctions and I’m the only one who’s never tired of00:42:25
being surprised, but when are they carrying out00:42:29
such a more global thing, let’s say in general it’s00:42:31
impossible, it’s just not possible, but there’s00:42:34
absolutely no equipment, no00:42:38
technological goods produced in Europe can’t be dual-00:42:40
use, donated for00:42:42
civilian purposes the importance of the military, just00:42:45
let us impose a total ban on00:42:47
the supply of all European00:42:49
goods to Russia with the exception of food00:42:51
and maybe some set of00:42:53
medicines, yes, be a painful measure. But you00:42:56
know, like two billion euros. Well,00:42:59
probably for some key00:43:02
enterprises this is it will be very important, very00:43:04
significant, but it seems to me that when00:43:06
such a decision is made there for the seventh00:43:08
time, then it’s00:43:10
no longer possible to take it seriously. Well, as for00:43:13
personal sanctions there, well, here in general it’s00:43:15
already Yes, well, I want to laugh,00:43:18
on Friday they should pass sentences on Ilya00:43:21
Yashin if of course there will be no00:43:22
transfer again listened to his last word00:43:24
read00:43:26
Yes I listened to the end What are00:43:30
Ilya’s impressions on my husband and I am an00:43:33
honest person I am a00:43:36
patriot of Russia who wants a future for Russia00:43:39
and in this regard00:43:42
Vladimir Putin who00:43:44
inflicts the00:43:46
hardest on Russia who brings down the future of00:43:49
Russia who drives all the young into manure00:43:54
people of Ilya’s age and00:43:57
younger than him It’s clear that he00:44:00
hates Yashin because they have too00:44:02
different views on life, too different00:44:05
understandings of what a politician should and should not00:44:08
do and that’s why Putin00:44:13
persecutes him Putin punishes him also00:44:15
there Alexei Navalny as well as Volodya00:44:19
so00:44:20
what’s possible I want to tell her I want to wish her the00:44:23
courage of00:44:26
capacity Yes, and the hope that changes00:44:29
in Russia will happen much earlier than it00:44:31
seems to us today, he said in the00:44:34
last word that he is not expecting a miracle. Are you00:44:36
waiting for there is some hope that the sentence00:44:38
will be at least somewhat lenient? Yes, of00:44:43
course not This is me, if I say a miracle, then it’s00:44:46
that changes in Russia will happen00:44:47
much earlier, and the fact is that the Russian00:44:50
judicial machine cannot even be called a judicial machine, because00:44:54
this is a political reprisal, what is00:44:56
happening,00:44:59
and so on. This is a political reprisal, and00:45:03
here you can count on a miracle. Well, it’s00:45:06
about like a crocodile that there he began to00:45:09
eat his prey Yes, and for some00:45:10
reason he changed his mind unexpectedly, probably this of00:45:12
course happens. But I haven’t00:45:14
seen many crocodiles in my life,00:45:16
so that the crocodile stops chewing00:45:18
something tasty, I haven’t seen it, so it00:45:22
seems to me that it can even be called a miracle00:45:23
it’s impossible, but the sentence will be heavy,00:45:27
the sentence will be cruel, you said that a00:45:29
miracle is reliable, that changes in00:45:32
Russia will happen much earlier,00:45:33
much earlier than00:45:36
what Vladimir Putin thinks about this and what you and00:45:39
I think today Yes, because00:45:42
well, my personal find as if such an00:45:45
expert with an analytical look, yes,00:45:48
this is where changes in Russia can00:45:50
occur there after 2030. But I00:45:53
think that it will still happen earlier, so I00:45:55
hope so and it will be a miracle, 3000:45:58
years will be too much time, it00:46:01
turns out to be too little because only00:46:05
the Constitutions that Putin00:46:06
he rewrote it for himself, he can sit in his post00:46:09
until 2036, we know how this constitution works,00:46:13
no, I didn’t say that he won’t00:46:16
be able to sit there any longer. I just mean that00:46:19
at that moment, 84 years old, it’s probably different. I’m talking00:46:23
about the fact that the Constitution is according to the Constitution he,00:46:25
of course, can, according to our00:46:27
current Constitution. But won’t00:46:31
events happen first? Well, in any00:46:33
case, it seems to me that if Russia is00:46:35
defeated in Ukraine, this00:46:38
will seriously shake both Putin and those who were with him00:46:40
all this time, right hand left hand00:46:43
sat at his feet00:46:46
Well, I would say a slightly softer00:46:48
military defeat of Russia could shake00:46:51
Putin’s position and could lead to00:46:54
political changes without a military00:46:56
defeat of Russia in Ukraine, the chances of00:46:58
political changes in Russia are00:47:00
sharply reduced, somehow very00:47:02
pessimistic.00:47:04
I understand, but alas, I’m trying to realistically00:47:09
assess what is happening in the country I00:47:11
look realistically at what is happening00:47:13
in what is called the political elite,00:47:16
that is, the people who make00:47:18
political00:47:21
decisions, so I see what is happening in00:47:25
Russian public opinion. So,00:47:28
unfortunately, I know how where I will get you00:47:31
other writers working in the system who00:47:32
are where I can’t bring myself to uh Well, that00:47:36
is, there are probably other people there00:47:38
who will be sure to say that you00:47:40
know, but already at the end of this year, but in00:47:42
extreme cases, next year something like00:47:44
this will happen there and everything00:47:46
will turn upside down in Russia and everything will be fine Well, I00:47:48
know how Faith is beyond doubt As00:47:51
our editor-in-chief says, that’s why00:47:53
these people can be trusted or00:47:55
not. I look at00:47:58
the situation more objectively. I don’t yet see any00:48:00
signs that political changes are planned there in Russia,00:48:05
for example, it doesn’t mean that these will happen tomorrow00:48:07
signs cannot appear And there is00:48:09
a possibility that this will be mothballed for00:48:11
decades, as in North Korea,00:48:13
for example,00:48:15
I do00:48:17
n’t see a chance, well, let’s say high chances,00:48:21
and theoretically, of course, such a possibility00:48:22
exists and theoretically there is nothing00:48:26
stopping00:48:27
Putin’s political entourage and the00:48:30
second layer and children’s heirs from00:48:33
trying to create something something like the00:48:36
Kim empire and transferring power from father to son,00:48:40
but it seems to me that the political00:48:44
system that Putin created is00:48:48
so individualized, so00:48:51
tied to him personally, his role in00:48:55
how to say conflict resolution, his00:48:59
role as a balance, as an instrument of costs00:49:03
and balances, is00:49:05
so great that remove this element00:49:08
from the entire structure, that is, Putin. He00:49:13
cleared out his entire political there,00:49:16
not only in the part of the Russian opposition.00:49:18
But he also cleared out the political clearing00:49:22
inside his political00:49:24
system, and there you can talk as much as you like00:49:28
about the dictatorship of the Bolsheviks. Yes,00:49:31
but in the Soviet Union It turned out that00:49:35
after Stalin a certain00:49:36
political agreement arose and a00:49:38
procedure was created for replacing the leader, we see00:49:41
what is happening in China there for 40 years,00:49:43
according to Ping’s legacy, a system was created for00:49:47
changing the leader and cultivating a new00:49:50
generation, and even now when00:49:53
he followed the path of usur of the first power We00:49:57
nevertheless see that the political00:50:00
system of growing shifts, growing00:50:02
Communist Party personnel there and from the city to the00:50:05
province from the province in the center, it00:50:07
works and there will be a constant00:50:08
renewal of people and people who come00:50:12
to the top. They have political experience00:50:14
and life there and an understanding of how00:50:17
life works. we can say there is a00:50:19
Mexican institutional00:50:21
revolutionary party that held00:50:22
power there for 75 years, but there00:50:26
was a change of leader every seven years, like Putin, and00:50:28
that is, not a single political system there00:50:31
can exist if it cannot00:50:34
exist sustainably. And if you don’t00:50:37
raise political successors,00:50:40
after all also the same family of Kims00:50:43
there already Grandfather Kim Yes, he began00:50:46
to raise his son at the moment when the00:50:48
son reached a certain age and the father00:50:50
started thinking about a change of power, he began to00:50:52
prepare him Yes and there yes00:50:56
Putin has no male heirs Thank God00:51:00
lines Well, at least00:51:01
as far as we understand, as far as we00:51:03
see today And as they say We are all00:51:06
mortal We are all human and changes can00:51:09
happen quickly enough00:51:10
Why do we rule it out It00:51:13
seems to me that I am not ruling out anything, but00:51:17
just so that00:51:18
any Heir of Putin can come to00:51:22
power he must already now, somewhere in00:51:26
these power structures, actively00:51:27
train actively learn00:51:29
to build relationships, build00:51:31
contacts, you can be as much as you like00:51:33
Katerina Tikhonova and receive tens of00:51:35
billions of rubles from Russian00:51:37
state-owned companies, successfully use them for00:51:39
all kinds of projects, but this does not make her a00:51:41
participant in the political scene. But this was not00:51:45
done and participants in the political game and does00:51:47
not give her any chance for a00:51:50
political future, this is a good life00:51:52
today under Putin Yes, but her good00:51:57
life will end exactly at the moment00:51:58
when Vladimir Putin leaves the stage, which is why it00:52:01
seems to me that the Putin00:52:03
system has no chance of survival00:52:06
transformation into the Kim Empire And here we go again00:52:09
Never say never, it seems to me00:52:12
that the chances are very significant they didn’t00:52:15
take care of a male heir in time00:52:19
Well, it’s too late to care Yes, because not only did he00:52:22
need to have an00:52:23
heir, he also needed to be raised and00:52:25
raised and taught Therefore, no matter how you do00:52:29
it, you can’t turn the wheel of history back, you can’t00:52:32
spin it, it’s a serious mistake, of course, it’s a00:52:34
serious time to end. Unfortunately,00:52:37
this was the program the price of the issue Sergei00:52:39
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