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dear friends Dear viewers,00:00:01
listeners and subscribers of the Polyteka channel00:00:04
Greetings to all of you My name is Vadim00:00:06
Gerasimovich my military interlocutor today00:00:08
Expert Sergei Grafsky Sergei00:00:10
hello Glad to see you, I00:00:12
welcome00:00:13
Sergei Traditionally, we begin with a review and00:00:16
analysis of the situation that is developing on00:00:18
the fronts, the defense force is developing Success in the00:00:21
Bakhmud direction is advancing in00:00:23
Zaporozhye, as reported at the Institute for the00:00:25
Study of War, in these two directions00:00:27
there is a steady tendency to00:00:29
move forward. In turn, the00:00:32
deputy00:00:34
chief of the main operational00:00:36
directorate of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Army,00:00:38
Alexey Gromov, said that the00:00:41
Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to00:00:43
advance to a depth of 7.500:00:45
kilometers in Berdyansk and00:00:47
Melitopol direction and According to him,00:00:49
at first,00:00:52
900:00:54
settlements and 160 square00:00:56
kilometers of territory were liberated from offensive actions. How do you assess00:00:59
the situation?00:01:02
Well, it can be assessed precisely in this state00:01:05
that the Ukrainian troops, as the troops that,00:01:08
in general, seized the initiative,00:01:10
are now continuing to develop offensive00:01:12
actions with the goal is to push back the enemy in the00:01:16
Bakhmut area and take positions that00:01:19
will allow us to influence the situation around00:01:22
Bakhmut, that is, attacks are coming from both the North00:01:24
and the South, that is, we are talking about the00:01:26
resumption of hostilities in the00:01:29
archive area where Our troops are advancing00:01:32
after an00:01:33
unexpected, not to mention Unexpected, after a00:01:35
counterattack enemy there, the situation00:01:38
continues to remain tense, but00:01:40
less than us, the enemy in the south,00:01:45
the situation00:01:48
can also, so to speak, correspond to a00:01:49
situation of cautious optimism when00:01:52
Our troops are advancing in both00:01:54
directions or poplars in the direction of00:01:58
Melitoplya, or rather, in the area of fields for a long time,00:02:01
moving towards its side.00:02:04
Thus,00:02:06
we we continue to give the00:02:09
enemy additional reserves00:02:12
[music]00:02:14
the situation, as they say, corresponds to the00:02:17
plans that were drawn up by the00:02:20
military leadership of Ukraine00:02:23
if we focus on the00:02:25
Bakhmut direction, naturally, for the00:02:28
last few days the00:02:30
focus has been on00:02:32
the tick Sergei is fraught and the speaker of the00:02:35
Eastern Group of Forces of the Ukrainian00:02:37
Army reported earlier that there are00:02:41
heavy battles going on there, he says the following details00:02:43
we cannot disclose yet. But judging by00:02:45
the way panic is being whipped up in enemy public pages,00:02:47
I think for them00:02:50
the name Klesheevka will be very symbolic. Well,00:02:54
absolutely, that is, you need to understand that00:02:57
Klesheevka, it kind of symbolizes things00:03:00
that we are now trying to take Bakhmut,00:03:02
that is, now it turns out00:03:03
that the Okhmuda ledge of Russian troops00:03:07
is under attack from the Ukrainian00:03:09
defense forces, that is, by entering the pincers, we00:03:12
understand that we occupy00:03:15
militant heights And this will allow us00:03:18
to carry out blows on the enemy, repeat00:03:20
again, I say this many times00:03:22
that there is no great need to go into00:03:26
bakhmut and get involved in heavy street00:03:29
battles, or rather the battles together which was00:03:32
once called smell to us, in00:03:35
general, today there is not much00:03:37
need because having taken a tick the city, realizing00:03:42
that for the enemy it is more00:03:43
political meaning This means that they are00:03:46
holding a certain contingent of00:03:47
troops there. Our task is to destroy this particular00:03:50
contingent of troops, to prevent their00:03:52
withdrawal as much as possible, that is, to strike00:03:54
so that the enemy like them does not00:03:56
lose more than you, so pincers Yes, this is00:04:00
what can be called now, uh, the state in00:04:04
where the enemy is located and what00:04:07
our troops are striving for, namely to close the00:04:10
blockade ring, the optional encirclement00:04:12
around Bakhmut and force the00:04:15
surrender operative to be destroyed,00:04:18
there was also information that00:04:20
you have already taken the heights near Kleshcheevka by00:04:23
the Ukrainian military, this is this00:04:27
settlement that is gradually moving into the gray00:04:29
zone That is this also indicates00:04:32
certain trends that are occurring. Yes,00:04:35
absolutely absolutely, in general, it all00:04:37
fits into the Unified Plan for Advancement and00:04:41
Containment or keeping00:04:43
significant contingents of troops in front of you in00:04:45
the east, that is, once again,00:04:46
the enemy attaches a more political00:04:48
or propaganda significance to bakhmut00:04:51
than bakhmut has some military00:04:53
significance for today Well, in00:04:55
general, this is good for us, that is, the00:04:57
enemy does not leave there, we have00:04:59
the opportunity, through our actions, as I00:05:01
said, to restrain the enemy without giving00:05:04
him the opportunity to move to other00:05:06
directions, which in general,00:05:08
like me again I say it corresponds to our00:05:11
plans00:05:13
over the past few days, we have00:05:16
witnessed the destruction of00:05:19
enemy warehouses and we remember00:05:23
what happened in Makeyevka, in00:05:26
particular, the Ministry of Defense00:05:28
confirmed the defeat of the Russian00:05:30
ammunition warehouse in Makeyevka, a large00:05:33
warehouse was destroyed where it stored a significant00:05:35
amount of artillery shells and00:05:37
missiles for00:05:39
m21 Grad reported this for Miss 7 of00:05:42
the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Anna painter is this the00:05:45
work of Storm Shadow or00:05:48
himars,00:05:50
you know, it’s hard to say the last thing00:05:53
I thought about was the handiwork and what type of00:05:57
weapon,00:06:00
if we talk about the distance, in principle the00:06:04
khaimars could reach it, it is logical00:06:07
to assume that for the safety of00:06:10
using this weapon or the like00:06:13
the weapon was used Storm Shadow it00:06:15
was launched just by an airplane00:06:18
Well, let’s say this is the work of the Ukrainian00:06:20
defense forces and those Patriots who are00:06:22
waging a desperate fight behind enemy lines00:06:24
because in addition to aiming at the target, besides,00:06:28
as they say, general information, you need to00:06:31
confirm the defeat, you need to understand00:06:33
what the scale of this defeat is and did not00:06:36
suffer peaceful people in this matter,00:06:38
let's say here without the00:06:41
work of our heroic jokers and00:06:45
Partisans, it is also unlikely that such a successful operation would have turned out,00:06:48
that is, let's say this is00:06:50
the work of the Ukrainian defense forces with the competent00:06:53
use of all available resources,00:06:55
including aerospace reconnaissance, human00:06:58
intelligence, the use of00:06:59
fire weapons, that's00:07:02
how00:07:05
you you know, here an analogy arises with00:07:08
those events that preceded,00:07:11
strictly speaking, the Kharkov00:07:13
Kherson operation of last year, when a00:07:18
sufficient number of warehouses were also destroyed. Yes, it is00:07:21
absolutely necessary to understand that this is, I would00:07:25
say, new in operational art00:07:27
when the00:07:28
armed forces, without having00:07:31
the advantages of the attacking side, without having00:07:33
textbook advantages, as I would00:07:35
say, over the enemy00:07:37
it acts asymmetrically, namely by00:07:39
destroying precisely his logistics system,00:07:42
control system, hitting00:07:44
troop concentration areas, as if preventing00:07:46
these troops from00:07:49
moving towards the front with material and ammunition,00:07:51
thus significantly00:07:53
weakening the enemy without00:07:56
endangering your troops, you can to say00:07:58
that the strike on Makeyevka00:08:00
saved dozens if not hundreds of lives of00:08:02
Ukrainian soldiers, the enemy loses the two00:08:07
most important things - supplies and time,00:08:11
because in order to replenish00:08:13
supplies he needs to redistribute00:08:16
logistics efforts to provide a00:08:18
greater distance for the cart00:08:20
and B distribute This is between a large00:08:24
number of troops, that is, it already sounds in00:08:27
some places in some Russian public pages. It’s00:08:28
clear the concept of a00:08:31
shell diet, so they seem to be hiding00:08:34
some problems associated with the00:08:36
uninterrupted supply of other00:08:40
material resources00:08:43
in the conditions of offensive operations of the00:08:45
Ukrainian army, please tell me00:08:47
what is the current strategy and tactics our00:08:51
enemy And against the backdrop of these events00:08:54
that are now happening, what is00:08:56
this00:08:59
Russian army like right now,00:09:00
well, the strategy is obvious, it is00:09:03
obvious for the Russian army as the00:09:06
successor of the Soviet Army, it00:09:08
took everything that could be taken from there, in00:09:10
general, therefore the strategy is obvious00:09:13
hold on to everything they captured and00:09:15
prevent a breakthrough by our troops,00:09:18
including carrying out counter-strikes, trying to disperse the00:09:20
attention of our uh our military uh00:09:24
attacking or trying to attack on00:09:26
various sections of the front00:09:29
tactical tactical they use00:09:33
means of mass mining And00:09:36
chaotic mining I would said they00:09:38
are bringing a unit into battle and in those00:09:41
areas where they are somewhere for00:09:43
themselves, that is, in tense areas we00:09:46
see limited use of tanks,00:09:48
this is even reflected in the losses00:09:50
that we now have, the enemy00:09:52
is trying in some directions00:09:54
where he feels more confidently00:09:56
use aviation and artillery00:10:00
fire, of course, they seem to be trying00:10:03
to use artillery wherever00:10:04
possible, we understand this perfectly well, in00:10:07
general, now there is such an00:10:08
intensified nature of counter-00:10:10
battery warfare, which is also00:10:12
reflected in the reports of our general00:10:14
staff by the amount of00:10:17
artillery equipment and systems destroyed00:10:18
volley fire which is reported00:10:20
every day, that is, the enemy is trying00:10:23
to hold everything by inaccessible means,00:10:25
in some areas they are even used as00:10:28
elements of chemical weapons, that is,00:10:30
the weapons are weak, mines and chemical weapons00:10:32
are weak weapons,00:10:34
by the way, Zelensky00:10:36
said that the Ukrainian counter-offensive00:10:39
was slowly strengthened00:10:41
Russian defense He would like so that00:10:44
Western supplies of weapons would allow him to00:10:47
launch an offensive much more00:10:49
and he also said that in some00:10:53
areas the military cannot even think about00:10:55
launching attacks because they do not have the00:10:57
appropriate weapons, by the way, and our00:11:01
military experts and foreign ones00:11:04
say that Well, everything that was00:11:07
and was not possible Russia for the miner is almost the00:11:11
number one problem,00:11:12
yes. Of course, I was talking about this in general,00:11:15
that today the Russians00:11:17
are using the weapons of the weak. This is mining,00:11:20
why I emphasized the chaotic00:11:22
mining of the area. What affects the00:11:26
actions of our troops because it requires00:11:28
additional time to create there are00:11:36
always not enough certain passage corridors regarding weapons, military equipment to be found in the army, that is, any00:11:38
military leader always operates under00:11:41
conditions00:11:42
of restrictions or, let’s say, a shortage of00:11:44
weapons or ammunition because00:11:46
I would like to00:11:49
use it more effectively in00:11:51
many directions Well, not always00:11:54
it turns out that we got what we, uh, could00:11:57
get, we continue to get these00:11:59
weapons and military equipment. Well, I understand00:12:01
that it’s like a00:12:03
politician thinks about one thing, the army thinks00:12:05
a little about another. That is, like a politician00:12:07
thinks about how to get more, the army thinks,00:12:09
in addition, how to get more, something else00:12:12
that there is a way to use it more00:12:13
effectively. Yes, there are great difficulties in00:12:17
using this. We need more and00:12:19
more means of demining. But this is00:12:21
like a response to the challenge that the00:12:23
Ukrainian army faces today. Was00:12:27
such a challenge envisaged? Yes, it was00:12:29
envisaged if you carefully00:12:30
re-read and look at the data on the00:12:33
supply of military weapons equipment00:12:35
that is in open sources, we00:12:37
will see what was passed on to us, including00:12:39
Engineering equipment, we saw thyme00:12:42
herbs that were also given by the00:12:44
Challenger tank, that is, the fight continues and00:12:47
such speeches by the President of Ukraine00:12:49
indicate how high the00:12:51
knockout of this fight is, how difficult it is for the00:12:53
Ukrainian defense forces to break into00:12:56
this difficult situation is forward, but they are00:12:58
successfully doing it regarding assistance and00:13:02
support as early as today, Friday, the00:13:06
United States of America may announce00:13:08
its transfer of cluster00:13:09
munitions to Ukraine, also as part of an assistance package00:13:12
whose cost is expected to exceed00:13:15
$500 million. Ukraine will receive00:13:17
ammunition for the Hummer and additional00:13:19
machine guns. Brad and Stryker armored personnel carriers00:13:22
regarding the battle of supplies of00:13:25
cluster shells, the00:13:29
Pentagon speaker said that Ukraine will receive00:13:31
cluster shells with a low00:13:33
fate coefficient of ammunition that does not00:13:36
explode, what kind of cluster shells are these?00:13:39
Please explain, well, you00:13:41
need to understand that cluster00:13:44
munitions are, in general, a rather00:13:46
specific type of weapon and this is what we are00:13:50
talking about the point is that these cluster00:13:52
munitions, as I understand it, you don’t need to00:13:55
look at the English version00:13:56
so that I can translate it correctly. Well, essentially00:13:59
the translation that we have is so-00:14:02
called instant-00:14:04
action munitions. That is, you understand that00:14:06
cluster munitions can basically be00:14:07
divided into two such uh, large types,00:14:10
that is, instant action and00:14:12
delayed action, that is,00:14:14
remote mining00:14:15
can also be carried out by these cluster00:14:17
munitions. Well, so to understand, we already,00:14:19
as experienced00:14:22
fighters, know such a thing as a00:14:26
petal mine. This is a petal mine, these are, in00:14:28
general, also cluster munitions. ammunition it00:14:30
is launched through containers, but they00:14:33
explode directly, and00:14:36
ammunition with a low failure rate00:14:38
or00:14:40
whatever is translated incorrectly, but00:14:42
again you need to look at the original. This means00:14:44
that these are instant-action ammunition,00:14:47
that is, they will not00:14:49
add problems to us in the future, that is,00:14:52
ammunition that The cluster ones didn’t explode,00:14:54
they seem to pose a threat.00:14:57
And these are ammunition that, in theory, should00:15:00
explode instantly, but based on the fact00:15:02
that there00:15:07
are dozens if not00:15:09
hundreds of them in the container in the cassette, you need to understand that it is not possible to guarantee00:15:11
that they will all explode at the same time00:15:14
and are already used here00:15:16
this designation is the same as ammunition with a00:15:20
low non-explosion coefficient, like00:15:23
this, that is, these are actually grenades00:15:26
that are scattered and should00:15:28
explode instantly upon reaching00:15:31
some surface or contact00:15:33
with a surface,00:15:34
for what purposes are they usually used and how00:15:37
can they help us00:15:40
in general? - a weapon for fighting infantry And00:15:44
for us it’s kind of,00:15:46
well, let’s say it’s interesting. If you can00:15:48
use something like that, it’s interesting in terms of the fact00:15:52
that the enemy using it has a00:15:55
certain advantage in the00:15:56
infantry, that is, We remember these meat00:15:58
assaults and so on and so forth, that00:16:01
is, in order to to level out the00:16:02
enemy’s superiority in the infantry,00:16:04
which is now quite nominal,00:16:06
based on the fact that we00:16:10
use such ammunition, that is, when00:16:13
the column advances, a blow is struck at00:16:15
infantry groups during an attack. On00:16:20
open-type fortified positions, such00:16:23
as with experience, a strike is carried around the neck with cluster00:16:26
munitions in order to destroy the00:16:28
infantry which withstands these positions of00:16:31
attack on places where the enemy is concentrated,00:16:34
this is not necessarily on the front line, it is00:16:36
at some distance where the enemy is00:16:38
located, that is, the product can engage00:16:41
enemy personnel, they can use00:16:42
all sorts of ammunition, there are00:16:45
certain difficulties of all with the00:16:47
use of aviation, in general,00:16:49
as far as possible use our00:16:52
planes to deliver them, but in any00:16:55
case, these ammunition can provide00:16:58
significant support to our advancing00:17:00
troops, today00:17:03
they are saying that the White House00:17:05
has decided on the Atakamsa Well, God forbid, God forbid,00:17:09
we understand that we are already using with all our might00:17:13
the highmars, as it were, loyal to us with those00:17:17
ammunition that has been00:17:19
transferred to us today00:17:20
and this has allowed us to seriously complicate the00:17:23
enemy’s logistics00:17:25
and now Imagine that such Makeyevka00:17:28
will not remain at a distance of about 50-8000:17:31
kilometers from the front line at a distance of00:17:33
up to 300 kilometers to 200 Although that is, it00:17:37
turns out that we will return to what00:17:39
we talked about, the00:17:41
enemy’s supply arm will increase even more, and an00:17:43
increase in the supply arm leads to00:17:46
delays in providing one00:17:49
or another type of00:17:51
material or supplies, what does this00:17:55
mean, that is, artillery will not00:17:57
receive enough ammunition, equipment will not00:18:00
receive enough fuel, which certainly00:18:02
affects the effectiveness of actions00:18:05
enemy That is, he is forced to00:18:07
fly or run,00:18:12
that is, what we talked about a00:18:14
year ago That this is a war of logistics Yes, this is a00:18:17
war of logistics in general We see that the00:18:19
presence of a large number, namely the00:18:23
number of artillery barrels of tanks of00:18:27
other strike weapons, is offset by the00:18:29
ability of the opposite parties00:18:31
to deliver effective strikes precisely on00:18:33
logistics elements does not allow for00:18:35
rhythmic and uninterrupted deliveries00:18:39
regarding aviation, the Supreme Defense Council of00:18:42
Romania announced its intention to create a00:18:45
regional training center for00:18:46
f-16 pilots for its fan partners and including a00:18:50
regional training center in Ukraine -00:18:52
This is good and fighters f-16s will be as00:18:57
you know Vadim, I’m already tired of saying that00:18:59
there will be f-16 fighters or there will be other00:19:02
Western fighters, they will certainly be00:19:04
repeated again after the transfer of00:19:07
Western models to ground equipment,00:19:10
the issue of transferring aviation equipment to us00:19:13
is a matter of time and capabilities, namely00:19:17
financial, material,00:19:20
physical, if you want and people to master00:19:24
this technology and obtain this equipment,00:19:27
any equipment on the battlefield acts in00:19:30
interaction and we are now seeing such a00:19:33
very careful use of00:19:34
technology of Western models of ground00:19:36
equipment of Western models Why00:19:38
Because it00:19:40
was originally designed to interact with00:19:43
aircraft technology of Western00:19:44
models00:19:45
and therefore my assumption is absolutely logical,00:19:49
I won’t even00:19:52
say it’s an assumption, my confidence00:19:54
is that such equipment will be transferred to00:19:56
us. I have up to Aviation00:19:58
technology as a technology that will allow us00:19:59
to adjust the ground and00:20:03
air components today00:20:04
so that they operate more00:20:06
efficiently, you just need to understand I00:20:08
will emphasize and I will repeat this. Another00:20:11
issue of the transfer of aviation equipment is a00:20:14
colossal challenge that requires00:20:17
stress and financial, material and00:20:20
technical resources and human resources00:20:22
because one pilot needs to be00:20:24
trained by five, perhaps even seven00:20:27
people of ground personnel to00:20:30
ensure the operation of the preparation of00:20:32
weapons work command and00:20:35
control systems, that is, we actually do00:20:37
everything from scratch. Well, forgive me if countries such00:20:39
as Poland and the Czech Republic literally until00:20:41
recent years used Mig-29.00:20:44
Forgive me, there is no life because00:20:47
transferring the country to Western-00:20:51
style aviation is very, very, very expensive00:20:53
and that’s why we as a country that has00:20:57
quite serious problems with00:20:59
the economy. Well, we rely on finding00:21:01
opportunities that are00:21:03
simultaneously provided by our Western allies,00:21:05
so this makes the process even more00:21:08
drawn out. Why Because it’s not a question of00:21:10
transferring technology specifically, the question is also00:21:14
what is the concept of00:21:16
Collective Responsibility countries00:21:17
that are part of, for example, the NATO bloc, that00:21:21
is, you can’t just hand over the equipment at one moment;00:21:22
they left their00:21:25
directions, that is, Well, let’s all00:21:28
imagine if Poland gives us all the00:21:30
equipment. But what about its responsibility00:21:32
to00:21:34
its allies in the NATO bloc, who00:21:37
will cover Poland, where to get it from?00:21:41
that is, you know, well, excuse me, there is such a00:21:45
concept, one of my commanders said00:21:48
this to his snitch and Putin, that is, to00:21:51
first ensure the needs of one’s00:21:52
defense or to prevent a decrease in00:21:54
readiness or defense capability in the00:21:57
first place, and then00:21:58
issues of transfer are considered; this is00:22:00
extremely complex, including00:22:02
political international process00:22:04
Therefore, we will have operational equipment,00:22:07
we need to understand that this requires00:22:09
time and resources00:22:11
in the context of the f-16, this is very common.00:22:14
I think this is an important00:22:16
technical question, especially from which00:22:18
airfields they will take off. Here00:22:21
again, you need to understand something about something00:22:24
I said in the previous block that00:22:27
this is a serious challenge and we are doing it00:22:30
practically from scratch, there is a question including the00:22:34
modernization of the existing airfield networks in00:22:37
Ukraine Because, well, Believe me,00:22:40
no one will allow in today's war that these00:22:42
planes will fly from somewhere00:22:44
Poland means we must develop our own00:22:46
system of airfield technical00:22:47
support, which includes00:22:49
modernization of our existing airfield,00:22:52
again based on the tactical technical00:22:54
characteristics, let’s say so, but00:22:58
the system of using this or that00:23:01
equipment does not always correspond to the outline of the00:23:03
Airfield network, for example, in some00:23:05
territory that is, perhaps we will00:23:07
even have to create some new airfields,00:23:11
that is, uh, new directions precisely00:23:14
in the network of airfields in order to00:23:16
ensure the effective operation of these00:23:18
aircraft, plus, taking into account that the opponents00:23:21
have quite serious strike00:23:23
weapons such as cruise missiles,00:23:27
we can allow the destruction of Western equipment we can’t, therefore00:23:29
we are talking about00:23:33
creating engineering shelters for this00:23:36
equipment. That is, this is still additional00:23:38
means, this is additional time, that00:23:41
is, the question. As you can see, even in our00:23:44
cursory coverage it has already taken some00:23:46
time. Now multiply this with real00:23:49
needs there if you also00:23:52
take attention certain procedures00:23:56
bureaucracy, then of course00:24:00
we are communicating on the eve of the rope itself,00:24:04
which should start on July 11 in00:24:06
Vilnius, there are certain political00:24:09
expectations, there are expectations regarding00:24:11
assistance and support for the Ukrainian army.00:24:14
What do you expect, I expect00:24:17
unconditional constant support from the00:24:20
Ukrainian issues of personnel training00:24:23
issues of arms supply00:24:25
issues of00:24:27
ammunition and other material00:24:29
means this is unconditional political00:24:32
support, I would say that a rather00:24:33
serious question remains00:24:36
the question of sanctions policy or Scandinian00:24:39
coordination of actions because00:24:41
Russia, in one way or another,00:24:42
continues to receive the necessary elements,00:24:45
which allows it to continue the production of00:24:49
high-tech ammunition such as00:24:51
cruise missiles. Yes, they do not They deployed00:24:54
a lot of large production00:24:56
capacities there, but that’s not what00:24:58
NATO countries are doing, again, in my opinion, they should00:25:02
provide unconditional support and00:25:05
provide this with practical steps on the00:25:07
political front and on the economic00:25:09
front, too. Well, of course,00:25:12
no one will tell us what will be allowed there conditionally on00:25:13
August 24 there, some year, Ukraine00:25:17
will be accepted. Forgive me. I00:25:20
’ll be part of a NATO officer. I understand00:25:22
how difficult this process is, the special00:25:25
conditions. And now even look at00:25:28
Sweden, which yes, it meets00:25:31
all standards, there are problems with receptions;00:25:33
we today Let’s admit we do00:25:36
n’t have a unanimous supporting a common00:25:38
understanding of the role of Ukraine's place in NATO,00:25:41
therefore, it is00:25:45
still very, very early to talk about formal dates of admission;00:25:49
no one will ever accept the war. Sorry, the country00:25:53
on whose territory active hostilities are taking place00:25:55
is necessary because in this00:25:57
case it will conflict with00:26:00
Article Five and will require both would be the00:26:01
involvement of all NATO resources To00:26:04
repel aggression, therefore,00:26:06
I do not have any overly joyful00:26:09
expectations from this ourselves, that is, we00:26:12
understand that the most important thing for us is00:26:15
to obtain guarantees, and practically00:26:18
Guarantees and enshrined in documents where00:26:22
certain protocols of00:26:23
actions or algorithms of actions are spelled out. If you00:26:25
want, ensuring support for the00:26:28
armed struggle of Ukraine at today's00:26:29
stage, then the00:26:32
political economic system of00:26:34
the country comes into play, which must prove that it00:26:36
really is00:26:41
different from the NATO standard and, in general, the00:26:44
military has done its job, the military00:26:46
shows how they fight, the military is00:26:48
only 25% of that volume tasks that00:26:51
include the reception of the country00:26:55
Zelensky, at a meeting with Czech President00:26:59
Petr Pavel in Prague, said that00:27:04
Ukraine, in his opinion, should receive an00:27:06
invitation to join the alliance At00:27:09
this summit, which will take place in00:27:11
Vilnius, and in his opinion, this should00:27:13
become such a good incentive, an00:27:15
additional incentive for Ukrainian00:27:18
Well, what does an invitation mean? An invitation00:27:21
means that it will be necessary to ask00:27:23
Ukraine to join. This has00:27:25
never happened before. The country submits an application for a00:27:28
NATO offensive and already needs to decide00:27:30
whether it is suitable for its own people,00:27:34
sold, but I repeat once again,00:27:37
no one will ever tell us at this summit00:27:38
that we will allow conditionally on August 24 let's00:27:42
fantasize 24 years Ukraine will be00:27:46
accepted00:27:47
already said right away no Well, you know, I’m already00:27:51
looking here, maybe it’s easier after all to00:27:54
take urbana out of NATO00:27:55
than, as they say, constantly listen to these00:27:59
pro-Russian hysterics, so we’ll see00:28:02
how the situation develops, they say sometimes00:28:05
not everything is so simple00:28:07
and therefore00:28:10
Well Let's see how it will be, I00:28:13
expressed my opinion and My opinion is, as it were,00:28:15
more practical, it concerns practical00:28:18
issues, but don’t you know, they are already talking about00:28:20
some formalities, formalities00:28:22
will be if we meet all the00:28:24
standards, this is a single NATO rule00:28:27
will not make an exception for anyone Yes, you00:28:29
can there to talk about some00:28:30
specific programs but or a00:28:32
protocol of actions But this depends on the00:28:36
political situation in which we00:28:38
find ourselves today military00:28:39
political today00:28:40
I repeat once again in the conditions of an00:28:43
open military conflict which00:28:46
is in a hot phase And I would say00:28:48
red-hot phase of talk about00:28:51
NATO accession Well, to put it mildly, it’s premature00:28:53
because let’s Don’t forget, I’ll00:28:55
repeat it again, any military conflict00:28:57
affects, among other things, the political and00:29:00
economic components of any00:29:02
state. Can we talk about00:29:05
guaranteeing human rights? Can we talk about00:29:07
anything? prospects for economic00:29:09
growth in a country that is actively00:29:11
fighting Is it possible to guarantee the00:29:12
stability of the political system of the00:29:14
system in the country when we have millions00:29:17
and millions of citizens who have left their00:29:19
place of residence is in the side sign00:29:21
or are internally displaced00:29:24
persons well, probably not The country must00:29:27
first complete one action then00:29:30
Let’s move on to the second, let me emphasize once00:29:32
again, our Western allies are doing everything00:29:35
possible to maintain the stability of00:29:37
our state, they support us,00:29:39
they support us simply in colossal00:29:41
amounts, I would say so incomparable even00:29:43
with the budget of Ukraine,00:29:45
which allows us to have a more00:29:49
practical approach to what is00:29:52
happening Well, we need to understand as best he00:29:54
can What is the place and role of Ukraine in the00:29:56
modern world, for example in Eurasia00:30:01
This is so regarding NATO in the White House they00:30:04
clearly said that no00:30:05
exceptions to preferences in the survey of00:30:09
Ukrainian membership Valencia will be made therefore00:30:12
Let's wait for the summit itself, its00:30:14
result and with whom I’ve already talked about it all, let’s00:30:17
not say that NATO protocols do not00:30:20
provide for any exceptions on the00:30:22
issues of admission of this or that00:30:24
state, members of the00:30:26
Atlantic Alliance researchers00:30:27
remember, democracy is, first of all, a00:30:29
procedure, this is a procedure,00:30:32
military experts, Colonel of the00:30:35
Ukrainian Armed Forces, reserves Sergei Grafsky was00:30:36
with us on the field today So00:30:38
Sergey, thank you very much for this00:30:39
conversation and also gratitude to all00:30:41
our viewers and subscribers. Take care of00:30:44
yourself and see you all again, all the00:30:46
best.00:30:47
All the best00:30:48
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