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Dear Oleg, a few days ago the IMF
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gave a forecast and of course we are most
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interested in what is happening in Russia, but perhaps
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you will take a broader look. And in the
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Russian part, many noted that
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this forecast is even better than the authorities themselves expect,
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something like
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26% and it seems that in modern times it’s
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really not bad. What could
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be the catch or there may be no catch?
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Yes, come on. I’ll first say what’s interesting
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to us and then I’ll say what’s interesting to you,
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but yes, Hi Yes, well, look,
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it really was literally on
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these days, Per Elvi Rins, he is the
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chief economist of the IMF, several times a
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year, I think four, they present
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the forecast
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and say how they changed the
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results of the previous year and how they
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change the forecast for the next year. That is,
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every six months you can see how the
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IMF’s view of the world economy changes
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for each region for each country And
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by the way, I’ll give you a link, you can just
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watch it on Twitter, they post it
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with comments and there’s even a video where
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they mean they’re holding this conference,
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you can watch everything they say Well,
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I’ll retell more or less what
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happened in the last six months, but
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there was a fairly significant
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revision of growth in 2023, and the world
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economy in two thirds of the year grew
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significantly faster than expected, everyone
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expected a recession, but in particular
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due to the fact that the fight against inflation
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has been taking place over the last 6 months,
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we have learned that firstly, we
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can now say with almost complete confidence
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that inflation has ended in
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Western countries and, accordingly, this
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means that here is the forecast for the twenty-fourth
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year that in the second half of the twenty-
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fourth they will already reduce interest
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rates, and that is, Lord, food prices in Lithuania
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will finally stop rising in price
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Well, Europe is a little behind, but in general,
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Yes, inflation is over and, accordingly,
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Yes, you can now expect that
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inflation,
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as it were, in the long-term state will be below 2%,
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it should be here in America there is
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quite a lot of confidence that
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this has already happened, but the Central Bank
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also recently announced that he is not yet
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reducing interest rates until they are
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finally convinced of this, which
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means, but what is most surprising is that
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this decrease in inflation occurred without a
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recession, that is, most
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economists expected a recession, but as
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a result of this, a recession did not happen and
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surprisingly America grew very
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quickly. it was also
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unexpected, it
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means that Russia grew last year by Well, that
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means official data. This is somewhere
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around 3%, that is, the drop that was
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in ’22 by about two-and
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-something was
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compensated for by growth in
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’23 and, as it were, based on the results of two years, it
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turned out, but they expected a much larger
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drop, well, most other
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regions were actually growing and
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negative adjustments were mainly in
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China. That is, China grew more slowly than
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expected. And in fact, if we look
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at the twenty-fourth year, the forecast is
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relatively optimistic about
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growth and China is the only region where
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growth is expected, but at a slower rate than
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if we looked there a few years
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ago, yes. That is, China is now growing at a
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rate instead of 67% or seven, in
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fact, as they are used to, and China
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is expected to grow 45 % And the
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record holder for growth will be India, as it was
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last year. That is, it is expected that
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India is taking the place of China. India
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will grow at a seven percent rate
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in the foreseeable in the foreseeable future. Yes, but
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here it must be emphasized that what we approximately
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expect, we approximately expect that developed
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countries are growing a little less than 2% and
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catching up is what we call
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developing countries are growing 45% to
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catch up and then the gap is really
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shrinking, this is what we are used to Yes, apparently, well,
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well, all these
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forecasts They are just saying that we
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are returning back to this situation where
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developed countries will grow by about two and
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this is not bad for developed countries and
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catching up countries Well, for now
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they will be a little slower Grow not 5 But 4% But it’s
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kind of going back And back to the usual
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situation before Covid and that means Well, that’s
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the only India and China seems to
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have switched places, that’s what’s
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interesting. And yes, well, inflation has ended,
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now one big question remains. This is
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how quickly interest rates will decrease.
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This is actually an interesting question
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to discuss separately, and that is, inflation
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has ended, and interest rates can
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remain high. Yes And so we have become accustomed to
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living in a world with low interest
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rates for the last 15 years. But in
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fact this is not the norm. Until 2005,
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interest rates were significantly above
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zero, that is, they were 34%, and for the
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last 15 years, interest rates have been
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close to zero all the time, yes it is in
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fact And how unusual from the point of view of
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such long horizons If we look at
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such interest rates have never happened
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and now the big question is Will
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interest rates return to what we were used to over the
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last 15 years before Covid Yes or will
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they remain high as they were before
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2005 This is a fundamentally important
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question Well, well, in particular, this is a
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separate big topic, what will
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countries with accumulated debt do,
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especially after Covid, where all the developed
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countries took a lot of time and what will they
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do with it now? It
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will probably be big there. topic for the next
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few years, this means that
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as for the big review of the economy, that
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is, the problem of inflation will
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gradually be replaced by the problem of debt. We will
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discuss it in the coming years. And for
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a long time in all countries. Well, now,
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a few words about Russia,
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the IMF really gave a very optimistic the forecast is
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several times more optimistic than the
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forecast of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, for example,
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and this means it hit the headlines, but it is
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similar to the forecast, in my opinion, of the Ministry of Economic
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Development in fact. The fact is that
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when the IMF makes forecasts, they must
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rely on the data that the
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missions send them, each of them each country
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and in this sense, and this is something that can be
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clarified with the first Lev Gorinch, he is
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also my co-author, so I
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can ask him this: And to what extent
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I don’t know whether he will answer me honestly
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or say that he will not answer, but
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they are quite- they still rely heavily on
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the data that the missions of
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each country send them and in this sense their
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forecasts are not completely independent, they seem to
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deviate from these forecasts -
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well, this will mean some kind of break in relations
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and since they want to
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maintain relations by exchanging data,
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then in principle I do not I know how
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seriously we can take
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this as an independent assessment or how
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much it is, well, because it is based on the
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figure given by the Ministry of Economic Development. Well,
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here we must say this is an important, this important
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explanation. But you know, I want to say that,
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like in that joke, literally here- then the
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chip hit me
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here, but look, it means that in
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general, it’s natural that the Russian
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economy If we look at GDP,
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it showed Well, amazing is the word res,
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that is, it’s
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somehow in Russian some kind of
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rebound that is associated with its resistance
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to difficulties Yes Lin will mean
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something that economists did not expect, and in
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general economists expected that this
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gap in relations between Russia and Europe,
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primarily because there
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were large trade flows with Europe,
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will be much more and is associated with large
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costs for the Russian economy and
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for European and here everything
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should be proportional to the size of
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trade because for the Russian
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economy the European market was so
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flat and it seemed that the blow to the
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Russian economy would be huge from
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this, yes. And a big surprise
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happened in what seems to be the
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results of Well, actually one year from the
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beginning of the war and the European and
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Russian economies prepared for this gap And
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without the losses that
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economists expected Yes, this is generally a bit of a
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surprise, that is, we will now
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rethink our theories on the basis of
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which we obtained these results Yes, and
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that means, well, it’s obvious that
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aa turned out to be so in the modern world
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when there is a great need, and the fact that companies
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often want to say that it is very difficult
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to do, but when there is a great
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need aa and that means you wo
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n’t earn money any other way. The only
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way is if you need to
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redirect all trade flows
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to completely different regions of the world, then this
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can be done very quickly Yes, that’s where
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the economists were wrong. This is how
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quickly it will be possible to do it;
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it seemed that in one year this is in no way
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impossible. Well, let me remind you that this means that
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Europe was the main consumer of
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Russian energy resources, for example oil;
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this was 60% of Russia’s exports went to
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Europe, approximately a now 60%
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goes to China Yes And the fact that they
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managed to do this in one year is actually a
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big surprise Yes, that means And in
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connection with this Well, it means that the IMF really
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has always been conservative in assessing the
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decline of the Russian economy, but now,
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on the contrary, it is optimistic
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in about 2024 Well, this is a rather important
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separate conversation to say, there is
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some modal scenario or there is an
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average or median scenario. And of
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course, in the context of Russia, it is important to
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talk about the dispersion of different options of
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what can happen, what are the non-
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central scenarios, and what else does that
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mean Well The IMF didn’t do this work.
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But in principle, high-quality economic
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journalism should
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deal with such things.
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I don’t know if we are of
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good quality, we can try
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to do this work separately if you want. In the
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end, no one
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bothers us for a long year and we can do it in one
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make amendments and so on, but we
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have, maybe more
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superficial ones, maybe not, but nevertheless we
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press on current topics if it’s just as it seems to me,
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maybe we already discussed this once, there is
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such a picture on the Internet
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called Schrödinger’s glassware, in my opinion
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PL This means you can google it and
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see what it looks like. But it seems to me that
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this actually describes quite well
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the state of the Russian economy when
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no one fully knows. And at what point
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the money will run out, that is, no one fully
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knows the
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state of the budget. Which
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means, well, the Russian economy
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is supported at the expense of now and
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budget financing, this also applies to a
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huge part of military spending,
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which becomes 10% of GDP
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approximately. And it also applies to everything
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related to investment and
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lending because I forgot
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what the interest rate is 18% or 17.5 at there is
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very little private loan at such an interest rate. Basically it is a
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subsidized loan
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And through the state budget Yes And that’s how much
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money will be enough in this state budget at what
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oil prices this money will run out
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faster it’s a bit of a mystery and until
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this happens, that means a closet with
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We didn’t open the dishes. We actually
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don’t know whether the dishes there are broken or not
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broken. This seems to me to
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describe well the state of the Russian
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economy. And to be honest, I don’t even know
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what kind of experts could provide
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assessments of economic data with any accuracy,
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but we are closed. We know that, for example,
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in 2023 they used
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quite a significant part of the liquid
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part of the
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national welfare fund,
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which means the Central Bank ensured the
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sale of this national
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welfare fund. Well, the hypothesis is that
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this became the main source of inflation,
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yes, but how much
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liquid money is still left there? in this fund that
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will close the holes in the budget, we don’t
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know, but naturally the state of the economy is
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directly related to this. Therefore, that
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means, well, there is some IMF scenario Yes
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And we don’t know this cupboard with dishes, it
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will open in 2 or 2 years, that’s
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all it will also be, as it were, behind a screen,
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and that means then the intrigue will
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delay until the year twenty-fifth.
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But this is what I wanted to say on this
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topic.
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Let’s talk in the remaining five
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minutes about the fact that the
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question has arisen about Europe’s abandonment of the Russian of
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rich natural gas in general, for
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many it may be surprising that in
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Europe, European countries are
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actively buying actively buying
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Russian gas, but not through pipes, they have
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announced sanctions on pipelines, but
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those that come in large
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ships are bought in liquefied form
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only this way, yes, I must correct you
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It seems to me that I’m not
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mistaken But in fact there were no sanctions on gas; there
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was an embargo on oil and
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petroleum products. And Putin
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unilaterally refused to
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send gas to Europe; this
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happened approximately at the same moment when
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mobilization was announced in September of twenty-three
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That’s right That’s right, some countries
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refused to buy gas themselves, and some
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countries are still buying it. By the way,
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through pipes. That is, I’m wrong, there
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were no sanctions on gas,
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but let me tell you an anecdote,
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since we tell jokes, this is when
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a person comes to the
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doctor’s throat nose and says my
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ears are shallow, the surgeon says that it needs to be
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cut, he says what a Butcher this
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surgeon is. Stand on the bedside table, jump,
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you see they fell off themselves, that means
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Well, the situation was such that Europe did not
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have to do any sanctions;
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in fact,
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Putin unilaterally closed how
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it’s called STM 1 so that Europe
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agrees to launch 2 that’s why it’s
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called Yes Europe did not agree
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to launch Nord stream 2 it was not launched
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it came under sanctions but Nord Stream 1,
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which supplied gas, Putin single-handedly
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stopped then explosions occurred, in
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my opinion we don’t fully know who blew up
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pipelines and there was only
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one branch left, nor Stream 1, as a
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result of this, but in any case, gas does
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not flow through the pipes. An interesting
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situation was that Gazprom
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always refused to invest in the
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technology of liquid gas. Yes,
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another gas company invested in the technology of liquid gas. that’s
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why it’s called novatek And
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if I’m not mistaken, novatek was
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like a junior competitor of Gazprom and
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Gazprom said no. We have
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a pipeline. And the pipeline
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earned a lot of money from
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its construction and therefore
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they were not really interested in wet gas.
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What’s interesting Now
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there is such a big discussion about how
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bad gas is for nature and how
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bad liquefied gas is for nature, what kind of
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gas leaks occur during its liquefaction,
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this means Well, in the headlines now
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there is such information that Biden has
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suspended the export of
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American liquefied gas from... for the fact
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that they are trying to figure out how much
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this has consequences for the environment, this
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means that these are the demands of the
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green parties. There is a
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Democratic Party inside. So,
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naturally, Trump will deal with this, immediately in
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response, he said that as soon as he becomes
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president, he will allow all liquefied
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gas to be exported from America. Well, that’s
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This is a standard situation in
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American politics, and what’s
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curious is that Gazprom was one of
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the parties that, well before the war,
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declared that liquefied gas was
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bad for nature and therefore Europe should not
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buy it, but should buy it through
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a pipeline, and so, well he was
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practically a monopolist on the European
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market since the beginning of the war, and Europe, at
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some insane pace, was able to
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switch to buying liquid gas,
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which began to come from Norway from
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North Africa.
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re-sent to
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Europe, this is the work of the price mechanism
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as soon as gas went up in price
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and it set up a market economy
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much faster than expected, this is
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possible Yes And as a result of
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actually several months, Europe Well,
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in particular, at the moment when Putin
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closed the pipelines, it was the fall of
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twenty-three when it was expected that
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Europe would freeze, in fact, it means that
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Europe filled and stored gas. It means
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much faster than expected A and In
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general, it means Well, this is another fact about
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how quickly economies can
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adapt when it
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means the price when the price mechanism
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allows this to be done Yes, and the last one the
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thing that I will say since we have
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run out of time, this means Well, as a result of
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all this, which means the United States has become the main
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exporter and producer and
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exporter of gas, but through liquefied gas,
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naturally,
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gas can only be exported from America in a liquefied way A And
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this is, as it were, the result of a whole a number of
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events associated with the shale revolution
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that occurred there about 10-15 years
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ago and with the growing demand for liquid gas
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because before that there was no
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infrastructure Yes, but over the past 15
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years, and in particular at an accelerated pace in
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recent years, infrastructure has been built
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for export in America and
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for import in Europe of this liquid gas Well,
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now the United States is becoming the largest
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productive exporter and,
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in fact, the main supplier to Europe, which
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means Well, against this background, the question is being discussed
00:18:36
whether this is good for Europe again
00:18:39
depends on one monopolist, but well, the
00:18:42
obvious answer bad, but shale
00:18:45
oil and gas exists in Europe, it’s just that Europe,
00:18:47
unlike America, doesn’t want
00:18:49
to invest in this technology,
00:18:50
really. The big topic is how
00:18:52
unfriendly it is, which means there are disputes here,
00:18:55
and this is such a charged political
00:18:57
conversation; whenever it concerns such an
00:18:59
industry, there are lobbyists who
00:19:01
say that no, it’s gas, much more a
00:19:04
Green energy than, say, oil
00:19:07
or coal, and someone says that shale
00:19:09
means production is very bad there,
00:19:12
all sorts of earthquakes can arise from this,
00:19:13
and so on, I honestly
00:19:16
don’t know what the consensus is among scientists
00:19:18
about And how much worse is Slinex?
00:19:20
But this is, as far as I understand, an
00:19:24
open question. That means, well, with
00:19:27
shale oil, it’s still completely
00:19:29
unclear how much the United States is
00:19:31
packing it, and gas. Well, about gas.
00:19:35
Listen, there is another dispute: What Europe
00:19:39
could
00:19:40
replace with more for renewable
00:19:43
energy sources, liquefied gas, but for
00:19:46
some reason it doesn’t do this. Instead,
00:19:48
it falls from one dependence to another. I
00:19:50
watched this discussion here in
00:19:53
Europe. Well, in fact, there are not
00:19:57
enough renewable sources yet.
00:19:59
Well, for example, Denmark, where there is a lot of wind.
00:20:01
Yes, in the straits. she can
00:20:03
provide herself 100% with energy from
00:20:06
wind energy, but not every day she
00:20:09
produces more in the winter than necessary when there is a
00:20:11
lot of wind. For example, in the summer she needs to
00:20:13
receive this energy, she gets it from
00:20:15
Germany. That is, she sells energy in Germany in the winter and
00:20:16
buys it in Germany in the summer.
00:20:19
in a sense, Europe is not located in a
00:20:21
geographical location where, due to
00:20:23
the sun and wind, you can easily guarantee
00:20:26
that there is no shortage
00:20:28
in America, the situation is much simpler, you
00:20:30
can simply install solar panels in
00:20:32
Arizona and this will be enough, but
00:20:34
the problem is that this solar energy must be transported from Arizona
00:20:36
somehow
00:20:38
energy until this
00:20:39
infrastructure is built for
00:20:41
several decades, it is gradually
00:20:43
being built, but in Europe the situation in this
00:20:45
sense is worse and they apparently need to use some kind of energy, which
00:20:48
means the main
00:20:50
problem, naturally, was that they
00:20:52
closed nuclear power plants, nuclear
00:20:54
energy could play precisely the role And that
00:20:57
Well, here’s a buffer and a little bit of gas at the
00:21:00
end at the peaks Yes, because at the peaks of
00:21:03
electricity use
00:21:04
it still needs to be generated locally from gas,
00:21:07
this is the easiest way but just a
00:21:08
small amount is needed for this Yes,
00:21:10
and the basis should come from the wind of
00:21:13
the sun and nuclear energy sector which Well,
00:21:17
this is one of the mistakes that continued to be
00:21:20
curtailed despite the start of the war. In
00:21:23
2020, this is Well, thank God,
00:21:25
they didn’t curtail it everywhere. Well, in Germany, yes, that is,
00:21:27
in the main way. The problem was that
00:21:29
in Germany all the last nuclear
00:21:31
power plants were closed. Then, in my opinion last
00:21:34
year, if I’m not mistaken, this is not an
00:21:36
unforced error, the moment when it
00:21:38
was necessary to unpack when energy prices
00:21:41
were at historical maximums, they
00:21:43
continued it. Well, again, this comes back to
00:21:46
our conversation that from the point of view of
00:21:47
Europe and America, the green transition is
00:21:50
a big one problem a a
00:21:51
BC the rest is related to oil and gas prices,
00:21:55
this is some kind of local situation
00:21:58
Kai, which is somehow being sorted out, this
00:21:59
seems to me not an unforced error
00:22:02
Thank you very much Dear
00:22:05
Oleg have a nice
00:22:08
[music]
00:22:11
day

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