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microphone Evgeniy Davudov Today my

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guest is Doctor of Economics,

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professor, writer, publicist Valentin

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Yuryevich Katasonov Valentin Yuryevich,

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hello Yes, I welcome everyone.

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Why did Klaus Schwab call for accelerating the

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Great Reset and implementing it by

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2030, with some of the plans to be

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implemented by 2025 And where is he in a

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hurry?

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Well, where is he in a hurry, of course he is in a hurry,

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not only is he in a hurry,

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many of those many, but at the same time,

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I call the chosen ones the owners of money, yes

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Today I had one with where we also

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discussed a question that is related to

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why the Americans want it there

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Eh Confit, those who want to provoke

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sulfur

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consequences, let’s say such consequences

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that will lead to the collapse of the American

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dollar as a world currency, and then,

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in fact, the

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existence of the United States of America will be a big question,

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that is, I say the

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owners of Money who want to become the

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masters of the world is another question. Do

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these behind-the-scenes people consider the owners of money that

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the moment has already come when it is necessary to destroy the

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national state. Well,

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because at the final finish line,

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national states are

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hindering progress towards the end, even in the sleepy

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media of the United States of

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America over the

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past more than 100 years, they have

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simply served as a kind of springboard from

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which the owners acted money to what

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I

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said A little more than half a century, I

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mean that they created the

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US Federal Reserve System at the end of the year and together

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they gave their monetary unit the dollar

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the status of a world currency and with the help of this

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instrument They

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have been taking over the whole world for the last Centuries,

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including trying and they are trying to take over

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Russia So with

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[music]

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this is the Great Reset in Russia,

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based on the specifics of our state and

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our mentality, because the mind of Russia cannot

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understand, as you know, the same lockdown

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showed that in our country it was much softer

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than, for example, in

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China,

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well, the

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Great Reset I repeat once again this is

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some kind of code name

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frankly quite frankly in this

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book I wrote that in fact this is a

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good moment to start the

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Great Reset Well, I repeat once again

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that the Great Reset presupposes the

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achievement of the final goal zahmi

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Well, I will remind you that the previous major

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attempt was the event of September 11,

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2001, it was also an attempt to somehow

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legalize its intervention in the affairs of

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other

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states, but it is clear that we are not talking

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about the Americans, but we are talking about

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behind the scenes of America Washington The White House

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is just some kind of scenery behind which

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people are hiding who

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are actually internationals who

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are cosmopolitans who

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openly call themselves masters of the earth, they do

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n’t want to be tied to any

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specific national jurisdiction, but they say

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this is not our level, this is not our status,

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well, Klaus Schwa,

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let’s say so, he doesn’t belong to the

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very top of this elite And I would like him like that

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named a certain

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one I would say a

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speaker a press secretary who

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voices certain decisions certain installations of

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the world behind the scenes here

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I wrote my book I wrote my book based on his book

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that’s essentially the case I’m in my book I

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translate it into

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ka in fact it’s of course

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Eron Yes us inclusive capitalism In

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general, there are complete house curtains, but I

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was simply already prepared in advance for this

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kind of Revelation because somewhere

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more than half a century ago, while

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studying in graduate school, I was preparing a report of the

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Club of Rome. The Club of Rome, as is known

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in

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one of the representatives of the world behind the scenes,

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David Rockefeller and The Club of Rome,

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in fact, in its own way, voiced

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these goals and these plans of the world behind the scenes. Well, in

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particular, it said that it was

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necessary to restrain the growth of the

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population, and then in the post they said

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that optimizing

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noni translated into Russian

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means reducing the population,

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and finally they have reached the

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optimal value of the

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population of 1 billion people, well, we

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sometimes said there the Golden Billion No,

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in fact we are talking about the golden

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million 999 billion million Sorry, these are

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dirty dirty millions that should be

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served by zloty Miln here is Yagu

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Uy small marathon

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GDO ask laconic questions and give

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laconic answers Well, I wouldn’t say that,

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you can always be heard and

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read out, you said that you have

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so many questions in the wallpaper, that’s why I’m trying so hard to

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be as

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brief as possible The USA

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primarily for the destruction of

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Europe itself Do you agree with this version?

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If so, then with what Europe is interfering with the United

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States of America Well, I must tell you

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that most likely the main blow

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is intended for

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Russia because in this case I, based

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on many revelations of say, or

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even Henry Kissinger and other such

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eggheads in geopolitics, talked about

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what it means Our task is is to

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fragment the Soviet Union and then it

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means to put under your control all

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those

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new states that surround the

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Russian Federation. That is,

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after all, this is what

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I would say, the basic plan, the basic

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scenario, this means setting fire to the

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entire encirclement of Russia Yes, they started with

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Ukraine because Ukraine turned out to be

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more pliable. That’s a more convenient

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strategic springboard, but in principle

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I think that after all, the main goal is

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Russia and Europe - we’ll say that

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already. A by-product or a by-goal.

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Yes, of course, for once again I repeat the owners of

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money, now the moment comes when they are

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already ready and willing to sacrifice

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national states, not even

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just to sacrifice. They are already ready to destroy

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them. Yes, destroying

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America, destroying Europe, the

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European Union meant that the once

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sovereign states of Western Europe are

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giving up part of their sovereignty to

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Brussels;

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here in Brussels there are some

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officials who are no one didn’t elect, well,

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such a management model is being built

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when actually sovereign

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states

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become objects of management from

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the world behind the scenes from the side of their

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money, well, something similar. We are

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seeing in Russia, by the way, so,

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well, now you have a question about

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Europe, so I’m talking about Europe, maybe

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about Russia, also to clarify,

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after all,

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here in Russia the situation is quite

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paradoxical

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because the institutions of

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the state, I mean the

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executive branch of power and the

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legislative and judicial branches, they somehow

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very sluggishly perform their functions

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prescribed by the Constitution of the Russian

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Federation, so I always keep this on the table the

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book of the Constitution of the Russian

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Federation, out of habit they are called the

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first second and third branches of power, but

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there is another branch of power that

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for some reason is rarely talked about, this is the Central

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Bank. I simply studied, even in

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Soviet times, the status of the central

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banks of other countries and especially studied the

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status of the Federal Reserve system of the USA

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and even then, back in Soviet times, I

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realized that in America, say, the Central

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Bank is real power, there is

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real power, and the White House is a kind of

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screen, so in Russia the

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same model is being built, today we are seeing a

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process of privatization,

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this is a separate big topic the actual

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process of state privatization

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can be seen in all countries of the world

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in almost all countries of the world. Well, in Russia

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too this process is so obvious

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that I’m not even going to

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talk about it specifically. Well, this is how the

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Central Bank received some kind of special

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status in the everyday life of nature.

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I will sit down temporarily to describe this

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mechanism for managing the central bank and

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I will say that the highest

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authorities from which control

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signals to the central bank come are the

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owners of money, the same owners of money

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who manage the Federal Reserve.

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Well, such a multi-tiered

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system of central banks has been built in a

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mime of administrations from

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races, as they say the club of central

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banks, in my opinion, in 1996, the Bank of Russia

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became a member of this bank for international

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settlements, but I would figuratively put it this way:

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he sits there not in an armchair, but on a

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high chair. That is, his

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status there is quite

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[music]

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not high for a person Like the author who

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writes there are quite a lot of books not only about

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modernity but also about the same economy of

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Stalin Let’s imagine that it’s

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over, the stated goals of

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denazification, demilitarization have been achieved.

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How do you think it’s correct to restore the

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economy of the destroyed territories and

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how much time will it take? It’s

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hard for me to say, I’m still

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hypotheses,

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hypotheses are unlikely because I see that these are just

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signs of the implementation of the plan that was

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still being formed in the last century: they are

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trying to make

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the state

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obey the owners of money through

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Washington, so if we

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assume we even manage to achieve

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Victory, I believe that we can say

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that military victory will happen when we

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Let's get to the western borders of Ukraine That's when

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some kind of conflict will probably break out

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in Russia, well, in particular, we see

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how Kazakhstan is now turning around.

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We see some alarming

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signs in other Central Asian

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republics. The other day I gave an

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interview to a respondent from Dushanbe, there is a

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fairly large Russian-speaking community there

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and they openly talk about how

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tense the situation is, so I don’t think

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that we will be allowed to rest peacefully on the

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laurels of the Winners. Even if we reach the

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Western border of Ukraine,

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maybe, of course, something will be able to be restored.

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I think that rather in Ukraine we will have to

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create some objects

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defensive military objects

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because at any

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moment some new

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military operation may begin on the part of the Western

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Euro or Central Euro So,

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by the way, right now we are celebrating and

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preparing to celebrate the 110th anniversary of the

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beginning of the First World War Yes, it’s very

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interesting to refresh like this memory of history,

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including the history of the world wars, but

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we were not very ready for this war, I

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will not give you details now to

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prove this

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thesis, the

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military service will have ended within a few months. Based on this, it means they were planning the military budget, and so on and

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so forth It turned out completely Everything was

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different

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The war was

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fought for 4 years and more than 100 days Yes, it

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was a very difficult war, you

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literally called me when I was just

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studying some statistics on the First

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World War Well, here

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I am, at the same time, leafing through books in order

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to refresh my memory of history The First

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World War and I just can’t understand from

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these history textbooks whether Russia

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emerged from the First World War as a

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victorious country or as a loser,

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well, not victorious. This

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can be judged because, for example, at the

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Paris Peace Conference we were not

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on the list of those countries that

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can, as it were, count on

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receiving reparations from the vanquished,

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primarily in Germany, at the Paris

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Conference of 1919, they divided the

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school of the unkilled bear, I mean they

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determined the volume of reparations. Well, Russia

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wasn’t there.

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But on the other hand, here I

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am getting acquainted with such hundred-year-old people

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say archival

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statistical sources of which is a

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list of countries that

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suffered sulfur

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territorial losses Well, it’s clear that on

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this list is Germany, which

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lost not only part of its

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European territory but also all of its

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colonies, which means that among these countries that

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lost

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territory,

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check it to pieces. But But it’s on this list

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and Russia is listed as Russia,

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which lost 14.5 about its

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European territory, I won’t

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talk about it further. And this is a sign of a

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losing country, so I would like to

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show here, using the example of the First World War,

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that this is the Paradox we lost in

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this war, a gigantic number of people

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There are even statistics that show

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that in the total volume of losses of the Entente countries

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and the

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ally of the gift, Russia accounted for

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more than

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n about all human stalemates, that is, we

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ensured victory from this point of view.

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We seem to be a victorious country, but from the point

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of view of the final results, we have all

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the signs of a losing country These are

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the paradoxes that we wouldn’t want us to

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step on once again on the same rake that the

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Russian Empire stepped on in

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1914-18, and God forbid

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we don’t have to face such

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paradoxes again. Well, here, by the way, I remember a

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famous map, if my memory serves me right

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Laboucher for 1890, a map of Europe,

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and just like that, if you remember, if you

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compare

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Go Scher and compare the results of the First

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World War, just that conference for

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19, there are practically complete

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coincidences, so here, as they say,

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the gains may have

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turned out to be la I now this the topic is not wasted

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But really Yes, and what about these

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plans is known

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paradoxically, it was somehow not

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accepted as a lie, that is, perhaps there

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is a gain here, it

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turned out that these are the very individuals by

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whom you call the owners of the money yes

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Well, if by and large I’m like I would have been

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thinking for many years about the reasons

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why Russia was able to be drawn into this

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First World War and why, by and

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large, one reason

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must be looked for somewhere there 60 years before the

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start of the First World War. I

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mean the bourgeois revolution that

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took place in the Russian Empire which for

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some reason they don’t talk about like the Revolution,

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they talk about the reforms of the era of

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Alexander according to

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Suro, the empire we

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know it, the

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party says that capital does

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not have a homeland. And if it does not have a homeland,

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then what kind of national

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sovereignty can we talk about? Stalin

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understood this perfectly well, so Stalin said

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that We are in no case

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on Vla and in this

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case we can lose our national

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sovereignty, this is a separate big topic. I

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presented it in different books, in that book

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Stalin’s economics is good, unfortunately for some reason

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this

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lesson is not voiced by our highest officials,

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even Bono

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schools and universities Even those teachers

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who have the status of professor or

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associate professor there today have a very vague

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idea of what capitalism is

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and why capitalism has brought Russia to

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such a state, well, I certainly do not

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hide the fact that I think that it is impossible to

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logically explain world and Russian history

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because humanity is

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controlled by God and trying to logically

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explain why certain events took place

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in Russia is simply

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impossible. It would seem that everything was already

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lost in the eighteenth year in the

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eighteenth year. But look at the 1943

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conference in Tehran, Stalin is already

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dictating to Church and Roosevelt about how the

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post-war world will be structured, here I am I’m

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not saying this, but I just understand that I was

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once fond of logic. I know logic,

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but I understand that logic is sometimes

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powerless and sometimes even harmful

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in order to explain some

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processes and events. Yes, the history of Russia

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gives hope for the future. Yes, this

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You are absolutely right and books can’t

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understand Russia mind You can’t understand Russia Yes he was right

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yes And your book Stalin’s economics yes I

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read it is a wonderful book very yes And

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in your interviews you often talk about the fact

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that not everything is so rosy in the Chinese economy

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and we are seeing Even if it’s not

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a trend yet, but at least the prerequisites

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for moving the enterprise from Russia to China are

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we doing the right thing by exchanging the West for

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China and what pitfalls await us in

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this

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situation? Yes, we’re exchanging an awl for soap, and it’s

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not even clear what counts as an awl. And what

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counts as soap, by the way, the majority

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experts with whom I communicate not on

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camera or on a microphone, they

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completely agree with me that horseradish is not

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sweeter than the river. Therefore, yes, of course, now

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tactically we must use

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the capabilities of China, but at the same time we must

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understand that China

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cannot be our strategic partner,

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even if only because that

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China, in general,

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is a country of capitalism Yes, and it’s even

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difficult to say where the curve will lead next,

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I closely follow the current

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chairman of China Xing Ping, I

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feel that Xing is really such a

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convinced Marxist And at the same time I do

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n’t envy him very much because he is me

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reminds me of a certain horseman who sat

00:25:01

on a wild bison. I mean that the

00:25:04

economic basis of China is capitalism

00:25:07

and the events associated with its

00:25:13

economic sanctions against Russia

00:25:15

show that it says one thing and business

00:25:19

does something completely different, and the situation is

00:25:23

very unstable from a

00:25:25

political

00:25:27

and economic point of view just this morning I was

00:25:30

writing an article, which means that it’s

00:25:33

called

00:25:36

foreign foreign investors are fleeing a

00:25:38

ship called China. Yes, they

00:25:42

really are fleeing. So for

00:25:45

many

00:25:46

years, probably for the last 40 years, China has been a

00:25:51

net importer of capital. Yes, the Chinese

00:25:55

economy has attracted

00:25:58

the only thing from different countries of the world like a magnet. there was

00:26:02

an exception in 2015, which means there was a

00:26:06

net outflow of foreign capital from

00:26:08

China. But last year,

00:26:12

it means that in

00:26:14

general there was a balance between the inflow and outflow of

00:26:18

capital

00:26:20

being equal, that is,

00:26:28

not only by the way, financial but also

00:26:30

political analysts are trying to understand

00:26:32

what’s going on, because the phrase rats flee the ship

00:26:37

it means that a rat is a very

00:26:41

sensitive animal, I even studied the question,

00:26:44

which means that why do rats run away from a ship?

00:26:48

The ship isn’t even sinking yet, but the rat already

00:26:51

feels that the ship will sink. In

00:26:53

this sense, investors. They are like these

00:26:57

sensitive rats that start to run.

00:27:00

Well, there is

00:27:04

of course some signs that a

00:27:10

net outflow of foreign capital from

00:27:12

China will indeed begin in 2024. For the simple reason

00:27:15

that a new official has now come to replace Nun,

00:27:19

I have now forgotten his last name. But

00:27:22

this is an official who

00:27:26

worked before and who

00:27:30

misunderstands the priorities of external

00:27:33

threats; the main threat is this Russia is not the

00:27:37

main threat - This is China KML Remember

00:27:42

his last name KML so ML is talking about

00:27:46

what it

00:27:48

means

00:27:49

today in Ukraine the

00:27:54

territory of the

00:27:59

Russian Federation is being occupied and

00:28:01

China is their joint action, moreover, in

00:28:05

this tandem Russia is the junior

00:28:10

partner and the Main partner is

00:28:12

China And then kl says that it is necessary to

00:28:16

introduce a strict

00:28:20

sanctions regime against China as quickly as possible; he has

00:28:28

repeatedly wagged his

00:28:30

finger at Beijing about the fact that you

00:28:34

sometimes violate anti-Russian sanctions.

00:28:37

Well, it ended with

00:28:40

so-called secondary

00:28:43

sanctions against a

00:28:45

number of Chinese companies; now a

00:28:49

new stage is coming when Roy has eternal sanctions

00:28:54

against Chinese banks, Chinese banks

00:28:57

blocked most of the transactions with

00:28:59

Russian companies. This is very serious.

00:29:03

Well, KML says no, secondary

00:29:06

sanctions are all sandbox games, we

00:29:10

need brutally crushing direct sanctions

00:29:13

against China, I do not rule out that

00:29:16

this will actually happen and

00:29:18

will happen in the near future China in

00:29:22

this situation is

00:29:24

of course obvious.

00:29:29

I have always called China an ear of

00:29:31

clay. Because if it

00:29:34

really developed its domestic

00:29:36

economy, and all its economic

00:29:39

prosperity is based on exports,

00:29:44

it means that in some years the net balance of

00:29:50

foreign trade would reach three

00:29:54

dollars out of three dollars. up to half of the

00:29:59

net foreign exchange came from the

00:30:03

United States And this is the American

00:30:06

currency exclusively with no other

00:30:08

currency. America does not pay with China,

00:30:10

so they are closely

00:30:14

tied to each other. Yes, of course, today

00:30:18

America is slowly trying to somehow

00:30:20

get rid of China,

00:30:28

excluding that at some point in time

00:30:30

some kind of

00:30:32

extraordinary event will occur which will lead to the

00:30:35

fact that

00:30:37

gradualism will be replaced by

00:30:40

some kind of sharp action on both sides.

00:30:45

So here at any moment Everything can

00:30:47

collapse so China once again I

00:30:50

repeat this is our tactical pair of

00:30:59

wives with Russian strategists still no it’s

00:31:04

clear why there are no strategists in Russia

00:31:06

because Russia does not have an

00:31:09

ideology, or rather, there is an ideology. The

00:31:12

Constitution prohibits ideology. And in

00:31:15

life, there has been an ideology for more than

00:31:18

ten

00:31:19

years, which means

00:31:29

it is the ideology of

00:31:31

neoliberalism in a narrow circle of people

00:31:34

who do not hesitate to use

00:31:38

precise

00:31:40

expressions. They usually say this is not

00:31:43

the ideology of neoliberalism, this is the ideology

00:31:47

of Satanism is really so, we

00:31:49

see it in the example of what is happening

00:31:53

there, too, at the same time, it’s

00:32:00

frankly Satanic,

00:32:04

so And unfortunately we still don’t have any

00:32:07

national idea of a

00:32:09

national ideology, so we cannot

00:32:13

build a foreign policy

00:32:15

strategy, formally there is, of course, a

00:32:18

document formally, there is a document called

00:32:28

but I also compiled various kinds of documents,

00:32:31

I know how these kinds of

00:32:33

documents are made, I need

00:32:36

glue, so even at one time I

00:32:40

published a critical article in which,

00:32:42

let’s say, I critically analyzed the

00:32:46

new foreign policy

00:32:49

strategy of the Russian Federation, net

00:33:00

Well, I’m a little OTV your question

00:33:03

was about

00:33:04

China, in fact, we need to soberly

00:33:07

evaluate each of our partners and

00:33:09

each of our opponents soberly. And if

00:33:13

we really evaluate soberly, then

00:33:15

probably We will then remember

00:33:18

the words of Alexander I, who said that

00:33:24

Russia

00:33:26

itself is now adding Belarus there.

00:33:29

this list Well, yes Well, this is actually

00:33:31

Russia, this is also Russia, for some

00:33:34

reasons now this border exists there

00:33:36

But this is such a conditional border

00:33:39

Nuno Here I also remember the words that the world is

00:33:42

littered with the graves of powers that have lost their

00:33:45

ideology Yes, of course,

00:33:48

and Gunar Heinzon introduced the concept of a

00:33:51

malignant demographic

00:33:53

priority of youth which prevents the

00:33:55

demographic decline of the

00:33:57

planet's population,

00:33:58

such a surge in the birth rate we see,

00:33:59

for example, in the great south and in

00:34:01

particular in the gas sector, but we also

00:34:04

see that it was the Middle East that exploded,

00:34:07

in particular Iran's entry into creating an

00:34:10

atomic bomb in the near future, but are

00:34:13

these two factors the only factors involved? escalation of

00:34:16

conflicts in the Middle East or here

00:34:18

deeper reasons

00:34:28

in the Middle East that began in

00:34:31

October last

00:34:33

year, these are events that cannot be

00:34:36

rationally explained logically;

00:35:03

Jews and where the

00:35:07

second Temple of Jerusalem was, the

00:35:09

third Temple of Jerusalem will be erected.

00:35:13

But they say that it is

00:35:15

there that the

00:35:19

residence of this very

00:35:23

ruler or the Antichrist will be,

00:35:27

this has been described quite often, here

00:35:31

you can remember Vladimir Solovyov, and

00:35:35

there is his short story about the Antichrist,

00:35:38

or say,

00:35:40

Ilva Aleksandrovich Tikhomirov Yes, in

00:35:45

my opinion, the story is called the last

00:35:47

days. Well, of course there is no clear

00:35:50

adherence to the Holy Scriptures of the Holy

00:35:52

Fathers. Well, as best they could,

00:35:57

and there will be events of the last times, that’s

00:36:03

true. That’s when I communicate with

00:36:07

such current politicians,

00:36:10

including specialists in the Near and

00:36:12

Middle East who work

00:36:14

including in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they

00:36:17

confidently say that

00:36:21

Israel’s days are

00:36:25

numbered, that Israel

00:36:28

has driven itself into such a trap from which

00:36:30

it can no longer dig itself out, including saying

00:36:33

that Iran has nuclear

00:36:38

weapons; Iran has indeed already drawn

00:36:41

the line and the second time, he will actually

00:36:46

destroy

00:36:48

Israel’s nuclear weapons And

00:36:52

not only nuclear ones. Well, in general, I won’t relay

00:36:54

all these details of the conversations; I’ll

00:36:58

relay the feeling that

00:37:01

Israel will not exist. Well, I usually always ask such

00:37:04

specialists on the Middle East the

00:37:07

same traditional question

00:37:10

in America, the most important specialist in

00:37:13

this region was Henry

00:37:17

Kissinger, the same Henry Kissinger

00:37:19

who

00:37:21

provoked the Yom Kippur War there in

00:37:24

1973 and achieved a lot of other things there.

00:37:29

In these seventies, and I will now

00:37:32

talk about this too, it is felt that

00:37:34

Henry Kissinger knows this well

00:37:36

the region knows very well the psychology of both

00:37:40

Israeli leaders and Arab leaders,

00:37:43

especially Saudi Arabia, just like that in

00:37:49

2 years, Henry NDr diplomat, a refined

00:37:55

diplomat who usually always

00:37:57

expresses himself very unexpectedly,

00:38:01

shocked everyone with his statement, he said in

00:38:03

10 years there will be no Israel and not

00:38:06

anywhere in on the sidelines, and in

00:38:08

an interview today, it’s true that 11

00:38:11

years have passed since this statement. But now I ask a

00:38:14

question to experts on the Middle East,

00:38:16

they say, well, he was a little mistaken, but in

00:38:20

general, he seems to understand the logic of the development of

00:38:24

events, so it’s difficult for me

00:38:28

that today it smells of fried food there

00:38:33

Absolutely, Israel does not like to advertise

00:38:37

its demographics or rather its

00:38:40

migration

00:38:43

statistics, for a long time now

00:38:46

much more people are leaving Israel than coming.

00:38:49

Yes, now I’m silent in the Duma, the

00:38:58

last ones arriving, there are

00:39:06

no others who want it,

00:39:09

so what really smells like

00:39:13

kerosene there, I don’t know whether Israel

00:39:16

can survive he will now be the beginning and then

00:39:19

once again

00:39:20

revived

00:39:26

from Exactly. So I’m somehow avoiding

00:39:30

such an unambiguous answer to your

00:39:32

question. Well,

00:39:34

yes, you are researching

00:39:37

George Oral’s novel 1984, now the

00:39:40

threat of the real

00:39:42

use of nuclear weapons is becoming more and more looming. But if

00:39:46

nuclear weapons may still remain only a

00:39:48

deterrent factor, but sucking up is going on, but

00:39:52

digitalization is in full swing, in your

00:39:54

opinion, what is more dangerous for humanity from

00:40:01

digitalization, you

00:40:03

know, in

00:40:06

principle, I think that there

00:40:09

will still be something like a nuclear

00:40:13

war, again, here I am not using

00:40:17

logic A here I use the sacred

00:40:22

scripture

00:40:26

nori the world will burn the world will burn in fire there

00:40:31

will be no By the way, in other parts it is said

00:40:35

that there will be no second flow of the World, and

00:40:42

even in one place Christ himself said

00:40:45

that the world will burn Yes, so I’m

00:40:47

carefully under From this point of view, I read the

00:40:49

sacred scriptures. Well, how can it

00:40:52

burn? Most likely, of course, some kind of

00:40:54

nuclear weapon, as for

00:41:00

this one weapon.

00:41:03

By the way, I remember there some of the arguments of the

00:41:07

main characters of this novel, in particular, a

00:41:13

party member from the internal party or some kind of

00:41:19

mythological hero of

00:41:28

oligarchic

00:41:29

collectivism In general, the reasoning there is something

00:41:32

like this: in a brave new world,

00:41:35

science is not needed and is even

00:41:38

harmful because a person who is

00:41:41

engaged in serious science can,

00:41:44

due to his intellect, think

00:41:47

about many other

00:41:49

things. We want the government

00:41:57

to

00:42:00

turn people into animals. And for animals,

00:42:04

how it is known that there are only reflexes, so we are

00:42:08

working out some conditioned reflexes

00:42:11

and there is no need for intelligence, but the truth is that it says

00:42:14

that we will still have to make an exception at

00:42:18

least for a while and two

00:42:20

directions in the face of

00:42:29

the destruction of humanity, what we

00:42:32

call weapons of mass destruction the

00:42:35

second direction the second direction -

00:42:38

this is what is connected with the transformation of a

00:42:41

person into an

00:42:43

animal Toms digitalization artificial

00:42:46

intelligence this is just the sun different

00:42:50

variations of this itself

00:42:59

this I

00:43:02

pray I wrote my book on this

00:43:06

topic and I write a conclusion there that

00:43:12

in fact this is not a work of art

00:43:14

this is a textbook on sociology and

00:43:17

in political science it’s very tough,

00:43:26

but that your main value is

00:43:29

that you consider history,

00:43:31

economics, absolutely everything that

00:43:35

happens in parallel with the Bible

00:43:39

and religion is your main thing and is sacred, I

00:43:44

often remember Katsev, Ion Chrysostom, Basil the

00:43:47

Great Gregory the Theologian,

00:43:50

yesterday skp was also on this Skype I’m

00:43:55

just talking about capitalism. And I

00:43:59

just said that Ian Chrysostom,

00:44:04

15 years and a half before the dawn of

00:44:08

capitalism in Europe, already warned about

00:44:11

what a terrible threat this is to

00:44:14

humanity. Around the 1st century after the

00:44:19

Nativity of Christ, he wrote that the

00:44:21

love of money took over the entire universe,

00:44:24

the love of money can destroy the entire Universe

00:44:27

then there was no word capitalism But

00:44:30

the love of money is almost a synonym for the

00:44:32

word

00:44:34

capitalism Yes Tina yuch Thank you

00:44:36

very much for taking the time And

00:44:40

I talked I remind you that today

00:44:43

I was at the microphone Evgeniy Davudov And I was

00:44:45

visiting was a Doctor of

00:44:47

Economics, professor, writer, publicist

00:44:50

Valentin Yuryevich Katasonov Thank you

00:44:52

very much Valentin Yuryevich goodbye

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