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Tuesday, February 20 at the microphone Nikita00:00:44
Vasilenko Greetings to all our00:00:46
viewers and listeners, this Youtube channel is a00:00:48
living nail and in its place the program00:00:51
Special opinion today Special opinion of00:00:52
political scientist Alexander to Hello,00:00:58
very00:01:00
kind Unfortunately Yes, unfortunately,00:01:03
the news now does not have any something00:01:05
positive Alexey Navalny died in00:01:07
prison and therefore Alexander I’m very00:01:09
interested to know from you exactly when00:01:11
Alexey Navalny became a noticeable00:01:13
political00:01:15
figure for you, well, you know, Alexey and I00:01:19
knew each other quite a long time ago, that is, Well,00:01:22
probably the listeners know that I00:01:24
once worked in the apparatus of uniting00:01:28
Apple and the Yablo faction in the early 2000s,00:01:31
around the same time,00:01:33
when I was finishing work at Apple, around the same time,00:01:36
in Apple, adj then00:01:38
Alexey Navalny, at the same time,00:01:40
Ilya Yashin came somewhere, this is the beginning of the00:01:42
2000s, then we didn’t intersect, well, sort of00:01:44
So I saw him, that is, at that time I was already00:01:47
leaving Yablo, it would have been the end of the year, but now, as it00:01:51
were, a few years later It was00:01:58
the end, he wrote to me So he suggested that we00:02:03
meet there to talk and we00:02:05
met for the first time, it was a00:02:09
cafe near conservatory Well, there,00:02:13
just below the Mayakovsky Theater, there is a summer00:02:15
cafe somewhere around the month In June,00:02:18
well, just about elections about life,00:02:21
he told me that he remembers my performance,00:02:23
how I left the apple There and so on,00:02:25
then you he was right in everything, well, in the00:02:28
future, we periodically,00:02:30
he consulted with me on regions00:02:32
on regional elections on some00:02:34
things related to strategy There00:02:36
and so on Well, we saw each other quite regularly and00:02:37
communicated in all00:02:39
subsequent years Well, how many of them were there,00:02:42
that is,00:02:43
well, somewhere around the year of the year, probably before00:02:45
the twentieth,00:02:48
in the twentieth,00:02:50
let’s say, all relations00:02:55
deteriorated somewhat for the reason that we00:02:57
had very strong views then on00:03:00
Covid, then there was a well-known concept00:03:03
that was written to Navalny there Sonin00:03:06
there Nikola Ploshch people are extinguishing there are strict00:03:09
lockdowns and so on I took a different00:03:11
position and then our position diverged00:03:13
over the summer on amendments to the Constitution, I00:03:16
thought that it was necessary to participate and00:03:18
vote against Well, Alexey Nava then,00:03:21
in fact, a00:03:23
boycott and everything else,00:03:26
by the way, when here he died, began to look at00:03:29
the census00:03:31
of Zhere, and so on, so I saw that the00:03:33
last time we corresponded with him,00:03:35
we communicated. It was July of the year. That is, I00:03:38
then, we were arguing00:03:41
about the Constitution, they moved, I thought that it was right,00:03:45
and so on, the matter was somehow discussed then it00:03:48
was another story departure00:03:50
migration arrest everything else There and so00:03:52
on I, after my birth, am00:04:01
in the opinion of participation in the campaign for the00:04:04
nomination of the President of the Russian00:04:07
Federation Well, this is a cumulative story00:04:10
Navalny, of course, became a Federal00:04:12
politician, I don’t think right away it seems to me that00:04:14
this00:04:17
was the point for him at the00:04:20
beginning of the year the company to vote for the other00:04:28
party is the rules of the game, that is, it means00:04:32
to form a political agenda00:04:34
followed by all the others. The00:04:35
eleventh year was the first one that00:04:37
followed this agenda; it was in the birth of00:04:40
Donya. Yes, the eleventh year was the00:04:42
only case in all the years when the00:04:45
agenda of the Federal election00:04:46
campaign was not determined the opposition authorities00:04:49
Well, the young people don’t remember But probably people who are00:04:51
older remember that in the eleventh00:04:53
year if we take the newspaper of the time00:04:56
apple leaflets from a fair Russia from the00:04:59
Communist Party of the Russian Federation and even the Liberal Democratic Party we will find in all of them00:05:02
all kinds of derivatives from00:05:06
there I vote for any other party in00:05:08
of different types, that is, and this gave the effect00:05:10
when everyone together conducts some kind of00:05:12
coordinated campaign, each in their own way.00:05:13
But the idea alone gives a00:05:15
commutative effect. It would be unusually00:05:18
little for Russian elections of mutual00:05:20
criticism, which means any criticism of Chernukh, it00:05:23
demolitizes. People don’t want to watch voters00:05:25
in this to figure it out they say Oh, they’d00:05:27
better not go at all, that the company00:05:30
didn’t have much of a struggle, but there was a00:05:34
lot of joint campaigning for something else. And it was the most successful00:05:36
company in all the years, and by the way, a very00:05:37
revealing story, that is, the more00:05:39
you fight each other with a friend and share,00:05:42
roughly speaking, the same Voters,00:05:44
the fewer of them remain because now it’s easy to00:05:46
demoralize people in this situation,00:05:54
even candidates who have no chance,00:05:57
the question arises: Why is this being done?00:05:59
It’s for the sole purpose of negatively00:06:15
demoralizing the00:06:16
turnout of independent Voters and their own.00:06:19
they will come and so They will come according to the list and00:06:22
here I would like to express, in my opinion, an00:06:24
idea for some reason, that00:06:26
is, this is what happened yes During these days, what is00:06:30
its meaning for the authorities in the World Cup? Why is this00:06:32
beneficial for the authorities because there are a00:06:35
lot of arguments that Yes, indeed, the00:06:36
presidential company is very00:06:38
bad news, it really00:06:41
spoils the overall picture. In general, it00:06:43
turns out to be a fly in the ointment. And00:06:45
in general, the aftertaste of the elections will remain00:06:48
very heavy, that is, any article about00:06:49
the elections in Russia until the fourth year will00:06:52
begin there with one phrase that in the00:06:54
course of the company Yes, one00:06:57
of one of the beaks of the Russian opposition died00:07:00
and this is no longer possible to00:07:02
beg from history with any ink from history the company in this00:07:03
sense, as if its reputation for history,00:07:05
it will be like this and this is how well, and it seems like00:07:09
nothing in this is really not good for the authorities,00:07:11
well, in general, probably It would be00:07:13
reasonable to understand that many people have00:07:15
long dreamed of getting rid of him, but00:07:17
probably they would like to do it00:07:18
later Yes, it would be more profitable for them if it00:07:20
were after the elections, that is,00:07:21
conspiracy theories are already starting, yes, that is, there00:07:23
ex-performers are not an excess, and so on, so00:07:25
in the World Cup, what00:07:28
could actually be the benefit even in conditions00:07:30
where it harms the reputation of the00:07:31
elections? It seems to me that the only benefit00:07:34
that the authorities received is Here Well, besides00:07:36
there, in someone’s personal place, this00:07:39
an attempt to demoralize people, that is,00:07:42
after these two years of almost a00:07:45
special operation, society is so00:07:48
tired, society is so accustomed to00:07:51
negative news that it would seem that00:07:53
nothing can give back, give00:07:55
back to people, the desire wants to00:07:57
fight for something, and suddenly we saw in at the00:07:59
end of last year, this accumulated00:08:01
desire for people to participate, the desire to express00:08:04
their opinion, it broke through in the VG. Yes, at the00:08:06
beginning, suddenly there was a tsova that became00:08:09
famous there before, no one00:08:11
knows, because the very fact of the movement, a00:08:12
person is ready to move forward and we are ready00:08:14
to hold it right away, hundreds of thousands of people00:08:16
are signing up then Nadezhdin’s company and00:08:18
this inspiration that suddenly00:08:21
began to appear to people in people out of00:08:23
nowhere, it was as if it was frozen,00:08:25
so society had the feeling that00:08:27
society was00:08:28
waking up, in the conditions of a feeling00:08:30
when society was waking up, a story about00:08:33
when suddenly one of the people who00:08:37
was a symbol of another points of view Yes, and00:08:39
the struggle for a different point of view00:08:41
has been dying there for the last 10-plus years and we see00:08:44
how many people are really in a shock00:08:46
situation and an attempt means replacing00:08:51
this enthusiasm with despondency with depression Yes, a00:08:53
feeling of hopelessness that nothing00:08:55
can be done here and we immediately see how00:08:57
huge the number of representatives there00:08:59
on00:09:00
migration Russia is cursed there is no future and00:09:03
so on, and in this sense they find themselves in a00:09:05
surprisingly lami propagandist, that is,00:09:09
that is, in this way they say that00:09:10
everything must be folded, everything is00:09:12
pointless, nothing matters, that00:09:14
is, there may be a direct connection with the00:09:16
company NSO and Nadezhdin and the death of00:09:18
Navalny, that is, literally, of course,00:09:20
we can hit the conspiracy theories, but00:09:23
we can extinguish this thing that you called00:09:28
society waking up. I think let’s say maybe this00:09:31
was not in direct What is called something of00:09:33
a plan, but from the point of view of the00:09:35
social effect, it seems to me that00:09:37
this is noticeable That is, when something suddenly00:09:40
begins to develop in a way that is not where you00:09:43
want, you need to interrupt the negative00:09:45
process for you with another process of the00:09:48
opposite direction Yes, you need to00:09:50
psychologically suppress people Yes, the00:09:52
story of psychological suppression would also be00:09:54
connected00:09:58
with the need to extinguish this protest00:10:00
wave Yes which had been going on since 11, it was00:10:04
hit very hard by Crimea and00:10:06
Nemtsov’s murder hit to the end because in00:10:07
fact it was the last major public00:10:09
action. It was a march in memory of Tso Yes, which was00:10:11
originally supposed to be a spring march00:10:13
where00:10:14
the Leader is, of course, but in00:10:18
general from the point of view of political00:10:20
consequences That there is, if you think about what00:10:21
could be the meaning, it could be like this, I’m not00:10:24
saying that it was necessarily intended, but00:10:27
in fact, now this00:10:29
seems to me, if this happens, it will be the00:10:31
worst consequence of the death of Alexei00:10:33
Navalny. How will the political00:10:35
landscape of Russia change after the death of Navalny?00:10:37
Will it be possible? even Yulia Navalnaya will become,00:10:39
for example, a new unifying figure for the00:10:40
Russian opposition. Well, in fact, it00:10:43
seems to me that there is no need to exaggerate here a little, let’s00:10:44
say from the point of view of the00:10:47
internal situation, it has long been00:10:49
very squeezed and severely limited from the00:10:52
point of view of the possibility of political00:10:54
competition in this sense, probably no00:10:56
illusions who, as it were, does not have00:10:58
the opportunity to speak out, we00:10:59
still have the opportunity not only when00:11:01
you died while you are alive, you00:11:03
can still express your point of view,00:11:07
but it is clear00:11:11
that it is far from ideal,00:11:14
so returning to this situation, the00:11:16
dream books of Alexei Navalny00:11:17
Everyone was excluded from political life00:11:18
quite a long time ago, that is,00:11:22
he himself was. Can I immediately clarify? Do we need to00:11:24
separate Navalny’s supporters from00:11:26
Navalny himself, that is, his comrades-in-arms?00:11:29
I think that here it still makes00:11:30
sense to speak00:11:32
as a certain One because in fact, the00:11:36
last company when Navalny00:11:38
actively took part and had an00:11:40
impact. This00:11:43
was the year in Moscow, then there was a decline because00:11:47
already in the first half of the year there was a decline,00:11:48
poisoning occurred already during the decline, it00:11:50
was visible and by the drop00:11:52
in attendance, which means00:11:55
broadcasts of Navalny’s media holding,00:11:57
it was visible there a drop there donations00:12:00
as far as the employees of the00:12:02
headquarters there reported there and so on and at that moment,00:12:04
this is the story with the establishment, that00:12:05
is, the government. It is always at war00:12:08
with a border war, that is, Navalny already00:12:09
had a social decline But for but for the00:12:11
authorities, the UNO was an allergen Yes And this00:12:14
story with the departure moved everything into a00:12:16
New phase, a symbolic phase, and this is00:12:19
what happened next in the future, as00:12:21
if the regional structures there were destroyed quite quickly,00:12:23
someone00:12:25
emigrated, someone was arrested, someone00:12:28
left politics00:12:30
from the point of view of the media agenda,00:12:32
the last ones there For more than a year, Navalny was00:12:35
practically absent from the information flow.00:12:37
That00:12:38
is, his supporters there, FBK, tried to00:12:41
periodically do something, but it is quite00:12:43
obvious that That there was nothing comparable in00:12:45
scope to the previous investigations, yes There00:12:48
were no informational reasons. That is,00:12:50
gradually they are getting bigger and bigger Healy00:12:52
there, the audience was falling, the influence00:12:54
of information was00:12:56
falling, it was obvious that the main reason was00:12:58
Tom Navalny himself could no longer act as00:13:00
such a maker, being as if00:13:02
isolated. Yes, he wrote something from us and from00:13:05
society in the media sphere.00:13:08
But they and what was before, the difference00:13:10
was huge, colossal And alone,00:13:11
without him, his team turned out to be00:13:13
completely incapable of fighting anything,00:13:15
nothing bright, they did not produce anything bright00:13:17
in this sense, they were00:13:18
constantly losing information, and recently,00:13:20
their role, in my opinion, was quite00:13:24
low and in many ways they themselves made00:13:26
a lot of mistakes, these are endless conflicts00:13:31
political with people, it’s unclear why,00:13:33
in order to destroy all00:13:37
potential comrades there and remain the00:13:39
only ones in some niche There and so00:13:40
on, wars with journalists, wars with00:13:42
some other social activists are00:13:43
endless There and so00:13:45
Far away, their opponents believed that00:13:48
Navalny would now leave prison00:13:50
when his term comes Or, on the contrary, I don’t00:13:54
know you, he’s slandering the00:13:57
order, there was a lot of talk, there was a00:13:59
lot of speculation that00:14:01
Navalny will fire everyone, yes There and so00:14:04
on, let’s leave all this out of the equation, that00:14:07
is, the fact is that from the point of view of the00:14:09
internal situation, the last couple there00:14:11
for years, Navalny’s structures had practically no influence on00:14:13
him, mainly they00:14:15
influenced the information wars there00:14:18
within political migration, but they00:14:21
really didn’t influence the situation inside, and they also had very little influence on00:14:23
this presidential campaign.00:14:25
That is, in fact, there00:14:27
was only one noticeable event there:00:14:29
when Yulia Navalnaya went and signed00:14:30
for Nadezhdino, I want to remind you that before00:14:32
this there were public statements by Zhdanov and00:14:34
Milov that there was no need to do this,00:14:36
Milov generally threatened with some kind of00:14:37
visas for those who signed, and00:14:39
so on, then she then Yulia Navalnaya00:14:41
went and signed and it seems how everyone00:14:42
pretended that everything was fine, everything was00:14:44
fine and also began to support00:14:45
Nadezhdin’s subscription company, that is, in00:14:48
this sense, but what about Nadezh Navalny,00:14:52
who was isolated and was almost00:14:54
silent there, is now silent forever But in00:14:57
this sense, but from the point of view of reality00:14:59
the situation in the country, this is not such a00:15:00
significant change, this is more of a00:15:02
psychological blow. Yes, this is precisely a00:15:04
moral blow to people00:15:06
we sympathize with, people00:15:09
who were committed to change00:15:12
because, roughly speaking,00:15:14
they could have hopes that we00:15:16
will endure it, as if everything will return at another00:15:19
stage yes What That the main thing would be to survive Yes And00:15:21
these blows to these hopes00:15:23
were dealt, of course, a very strong blow, but00:15:25
this now seems to me to be a question of how the authorities are00:15:29
on the line. It seems to me that If00:15:31
we talk about the consequences of this story,00:15:33
I already said the first the consequence is00:15:34
that this is an attempt to extinguish the00:15:38
hopes that people have, and00:15:40
secondly, it seems to me that the consequences00:15:41
will be polar, radicalization will occur,00:15:43
that is, on the one hand,00:15:45
probably part of the opposition is angry with the radicals00:15:46
because and as if when you00:15:49
behave as harshly as possible When you00:15:52
destroy people, but it’s naive to think that00:15:54
all the morning Yes, someone will think that you know00:15:58
no shores, then we, we, the same, that00:16:00
is, roughly speaking, If there had not been a00:16:02
tough struggle there in Sava Russia00:16:04
against the People’s Will there, and so on,00:16:05
we could there were never Bolsheviks, that00:16:07
is, in this sense, it is early00:16:09
return of inadequate harsh00:16:11
actions against the opposition.00:16:13
Unfortunately, that radicalization often leads to the fact00:16:15
that in the future it itself does not00:16:16
choose methods and the fact that part of00:16:18
the opposition is radicalized as a result.00:16:19
I think these risks exist this is this this is the00:16:22
first direction, that is,00:16:23
radicalization, but does it mean that I00:16:25
will transfer these risks to Russia, that is,00:16:27
the opposition00:16:31
can move them, radicals only together,00:16:34
they radicals separately cannot, this is00:16:37
the first consequence, the second, when we are00:16:38
talking about the authorities themselves, here it seems to me that there are00:16:41
two polar scenarios, scenario one00:16:44
this will increase fears. And so over the last00:16:48
couple of years, everything has been constantly being done there to00:16:50
scare people as much as possible,00:16:52
to scare officials. All these00:16:54
stories when a deputy spoke00:16:56
somewhere, a wave00:16:58
of indignation begins, a wave of indignation begins. Oh, he’s not a Patriot, that means he does00:17:00
n’t support our army. Ah he00:17:02
criticizes someone he publicly apologizes to the unfortunate person00:17:04
or something else or leaves for a00:17:06
special operation zone There and so on00:17:08
how many stories like this over the last00:17:10
couple of years there or there it’s a party someone doesn’t00:17:13
grieve enough someone doesn’t00:17:14
say anything publicly But he doesn’t say anything doesn’t00:17:16
talk about the special pit, it means he’s a traitor00:17:18
Yes, it means he’s still thinking something wrong00:17:19
There and so on That is, these00:17:21
endless attempts at Witch Hunt00:17:23
This is a story about intimidation and and so, of00:17:26
course, we can suggest that00:17:29
Navalny’s death can also be perceived as00:17:30
part of this intimidation campaign, the00:17:32
first option which is possible, yes, that00:17:34
is, to intimidate the elite even more, yes, that is,00:17:37
to show that if we don’t stand on ceremony with him, then00:17:40
we wo00:17:42
n’t stand on ceremony with you, but at the same time, this00:17:44
may also have a second consequence:00:17:46
it can be any fear, on the one hand, on00:17:49
the other hand, any check can be driven00:17:51
into a corner when they are afraid even the devil is, roughly00:17:54
speaking, the guards can by the fact of00:17:57
irritation00:17:59
when there is nothing to lose, let’s00:18:02
remember late Stalinism, let’s remember a00:18:06
year ago how screwed up the old00:18:08
Soviet Elite was Dana there was actually00:18:11
afraid of the shadow Yes, that’s it wrote a denunciation they were not00:18:15
capable of taking What steps but suddenly00:18:16
there is a threat of coming to power and these00:18:19
zapuzau means bureaucrats00:18:27
turn out to be The first is the escalation of fear00:18:30
and its even greater number of internal00:18:33
Taboos, as if something might not happen there, and so00:18:36
on, and such is the very pupation within the00:18:38
elite on the other hand, when a00:18:41
certain edge comes, this can lead And to the00:18:42
reverse process. Well, we are00:18:45
now observing that it is stopping attempts to remember and00:18:48
lay flowers at the monuments to the victims of00:18:50
political repression. We see that,00:18:53
again, Navalny’s mothers do not give up their00:18:55
son’s body, which means that this speaks of the00:18:57
dissipation of power or, on the contrary, what they are00:18:59
as cynical as possible and they know what they00:19:01
got themselves into, no they are cynical. They behave the same way they00:19:04
always behaved before, that00:19:05
is, the government in recent years, even before, did00:19:08
not really like independent00:19:09
social activity, and there has been for the last00:19:11
couple of years any attempt to demonstrate00:19:14
some kind of independence in expressing00:19:17
their positions immediately ends with an00:19:19
attempt to hit hands, it doesn’t matter, it00:19:21
doesn’t matter what it is and it doesn’t matter for what00:19:23
reason where you are bringing flowers. If you00:19:25
are carrying them without consent, then you are already00:19:27
doing something imagine, that is, everything00:19:29
must be clearly according to the rules according to the00:19:30
regulations, and so on so she00:19:32
fought for this for many years with the00:19:34
Nemtsov memorial, but now she is also fighting with the00:19:36
flowers that people bring in cities to00:19:38
monuments to victims of political00:19:39
repression, they remembered Alexei00:19:40
Navalny. That is, of course she will00:19:42
do the same thing further, that is, she00:19:44
tried to react as harshly as possible there00:19:46
for any actions there of00:19:48
relatives of the mobilized There and so00:19:50
on, well, let’s remember the hub and other00:19:54
public stories there Khabarovsk00:19:55
protest let’s remember now the history of the Bashkirs moment I00:19:58
’m waiting for Mac Stu’s reaction so that it’s00:20:01
not because they’re afraid that people00:20:03
there about Around this one, everything is often00:20:06
not important allow the Domino principle, what if00:20:08
this is possible for the Torah, that they can also Yes, they00:20:11
will also come out there and so on Therefore, yes, in00:20:14
this sense, the government acts00:20:16
extremely rationally and cynically, I00:20:18
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Well, we are moving on and the general through00:21:14
line of our conversation00:21:16
today with Alexander Prince is00:21:17
the elections and today Yulia Navalnaya,00:21:20
speaking before the Foreign00:21:23
Affairs Committee of the Council of the European00:21:25
Union, called not to recognize the00:21:28
presidential elections of the Russian Federation Federation, the00:21:29
results of the presidential elections in the Russian00:21:31
Federation and I have a question: What does it mean not to00:21:33
recognize this mechanism? How does not recognize00:21:35
elections work? Well, to be honest,00:21:38
No, it doesn’t work very well. Why00:21:41
Because Well, let’s say, well, let’s00:21:44
remember the recent one in Venezuela. There was00:21:46
an attempt not to recognize the election. in the00:21:49
last elections of Nicolas Madura and,00:21:51
accordingly, there According to the Constitution of00:21:54
Venezuela, if the pressure is not on the president,00:21:57
then it means the acting00:21:58
speaker of the parliament is Guaido Uh-huh Well, some00:22:01
countries have recognized Guaido as interim00:22:03
president Although he did not control anything within the country and00:22:06
it ended in00:22:08
Nothing In the end, in fact, all of00:22:09
this was disavowed00:22:13
in emigration in the States But still there they are00:22:17
forced to reckon with reality and00:22:19
recognize Madura.00:22:21
Therefore, public actions are possible,00:22:24
statements from various organizations are very possible there00:22:26
that can recognize the00:22:28
past elections there for various reasons as not00:22:31
legitimate there, unfair there and00:22:33
so on, for sure it will most likely be00:22:35
this is an inevitable situation, but the00:22:37
next step arises.00:22:39
And if you do not recognize the authorities, then00:22:43
how will you negotiate there, the00:22:45
embassy of the border There and so on, who00:22:47
then is the bearer of power in this situation, that is,00:22:49
well, the situation here seems to me to be00:22:50
quite dead-end. That is, I think that00:22:52
no one seriously not ready After May 7th,00:22:55
do not recognize the current Russian government00:22:57
Well, this is not this, this is not this, this is00:22:59
unrealistic, this simply closes all00:23:00
options. Therefore, I think that on the other00:23:03
hand there will probably be some kind of public00:23:05
declarations, but no one will still00:23:08
refuse to consider the Russian00:23:10
Government as the Russian government that is, in this00:23:11
sense, nothing00:23:13
will change by and large; well, here again00:23:17
many questions arise during the protest00:23:18
voting in Russia and one of the00:23:20
proposals was from Mikhail00:23:21
Khodorkovsky to00:23:23
write Navalny’s name on the ballot paper. And this may be00:23:25
somehow noticeable to the authorities no no and how00:23:29
is it that when we talk about00:23:30
strategies for elections there are, as it were, two00:23:32
dimensions, the first dimension is00:23:34
how to cause damage, say, to the candidate with00:23:37
whom you are fighting from the point of view of00:23:39
behavior. So, when we look at00:23:41
the protocols on elections, there are two phrases in the law00:23:43
the number of Voters00:23:46
who took part in the elections is the turnout the00:23:49
turnout is calculated by the number of those people00:23:51
who signed the ballot, here the00:23:55
turnout is read by those who received the ballot,00:23:56
this includes everyone00:23:58
there; it was dropped;00:24:08
differs from those who took00:24:10
part in the elections by the difference in those who00:24:11
took the ballot, that is, accordingly00:24:13
If you take it away, it reduces the turnout00:24:16
this is this, let’s say it doesn’t affect the turnout,00:24:19
but the percentage is calculated from those who00:24:22
cast away the ballot, that is,00:24:24
you don’t pay for the percentage Ute No this is if you took away00:24:31
the principle on what the bare are00:24:34
considered those to Omit If you did not00:24:37
omit it even about not dreaming of the victory00:24:41
made sha00:24:43
which is Meaningless that is Poly in such a00:24:48
general ballot you are on the layout of the00:24:56
candidate those ballots omitted in00:24:58
including00:25:00
invalid What is an00:25:01
invalid ballot00:25:02
invalid a ballot for which00:25:04
it is impossible to establish for whom the person00:25:06
voted, there are two options, either there00:25:08
are no marks at all. That is, all the checkboxes are00:25:11
empty, you throw a blank ballot about00:25:12
invalid, or you put more than00:25:14
one cross there.00:25:17
Well, from the point of view of not being00:25:20
tempted in some way to calculate all this,00:25:21
it’s better to put crosses on everyone,00:25:23
then mark more than one, the ballot is00:25:26
invalid00:25:28
in this case, it is still considered Well,00:25:30
well, simple. So it turns out00:25:33
that the base candidate receives fewer00:25:37
votes and his percentage still00:25:38
decreases.00:25:40
And if you just write something on the ballot - then there is a00:25:43
bad curse word,00:25:44
for example, or someone is entered at the00:25:49
bottom. If you do not put any marks in00:25:52
the box next to anyone, this00:25:54
ballot is invalid, but there is such a00:25:57
thing,00:25:58
if it issues a blank ballot if the00:26:01
inscriptions are written at the bottom, this does not00:26:03
affect anything, it only affects the marks in00:26:04
squares, so if a blank00:26:06
ballot is issued, then it is00:26:08
invalid and there is a Temptation, what is it00:26:11
like, if you use a ballot00:26:12
or put a few ticks on it,00:26:14
you can’t do anything with it, it’s already spoiled Yes,00:26:16
it’s already invalid in principle But a00:26:18
blank ballot with no marks00:26:21
can be put any mark and then it00:26:24
doesn’t matter what is written there Put the curse of the lock00:26:26
against Putin’s words and he will be00:26:29
Tim for Putin at one time there were tic00:26:32
stories in de year when in the00:26:34
presidential elections it means there are such spreads it00:26:37
means the advice in quotes is smart,00:26:40
actually harmful when there is a grandmother puts00:26:42
a tick to Zyuganov and writes mate in00:26:45
a box to Putin and it turns out that two00:26:48
boxes already have marks, but it00:26:50
really doesn’t matter that there is00:26:53
some mark, that’s why in the blank00:26:56
ballot of Nava and someone else, not putting a mark00:26:59
is a very big risk that00:27:01
just when sorting, put an extra00:27:03
tick in front of that candidate Who00:27:05
you don’t like at all, but what’s00:27:07
written there Well, no one except the unfortunate00:27:10
members of the commission will read this, they won’t read this They don’t care about00:27:12
that, they see00:27:14
that it’s just an extra bunch, no one00:27:17
will see it or recognize it, I’ll believe it former00:27:20
member of the election00:27:26
commission Chava Nobody ever considers this anymore,00:27:29
then it’s all destroyed00:27:30
after some time, that is, it’s just00:27:32
thrown into the atmosphere of your efforts00:27:35
What is called and at the same time spoiling00:27:37
ballots as a strategy it’s00:27:39
ineffective why it’s very difficult let’s00:27:41
say when the column was against everyone with00:27:43
her there is no need to explain anything to anyone00:27:44
people understand against everyone means I am00:27:45
against everyone in order to Explain00:27:48
the meaning of the bulletin it is necessary to read a00:27:50
small lecture Although for minutes people00:27:53
don’t understand this it has never worked00:27:56
so btu they are really the same thing00:27:59
in this In this case, it turns out to be00:28:01
about00:28:03
1%, that is, to bet on a strategy00:28:06
that is obviously complex and unpopular,00:28:08
this obviously dooms oneself to what00:28:10
he says to you. Well, you called for it. And you are00:28:13
1%;00:28:16
the story about voting for any other00:28:18
candidate, first of all, is much more effective and simpler here. it is impossible00:28:20
to prove whether they are effective or not because there are00:28:23
no options, in this sense,00:28:24
from the point of view of the image on our influence, the00:28:28
strategy is the simplest and most understandable00:28:30
because there is no need to explain anything extra00:28:32
for anyone except Yes, and00:28:35
then the percentage of this candidate decreases for00:28:37
everyone else there rat simply different00:28:39
proportions, so the history of prescribing would00:28:41
look like some kind of stupidity, it00:28:44
could be in other countries it would be00:28:45
different, let’s say the USA for example the USA, there is a00:28:49
different legal culture in principle,00:28:50
you can enter a00:28:52
candidate from the00:28:56
request00:28:58
there is no option, so it will just be what is00:29:01
called forces thrown to the wind00:29:03
that Moreover, these ballots will not affect anything,00:29:05
if there are no checkmarks in00:29:06
the boxes, they can be turned into00:29:08
bte with someone else, so that you00:29:12
don’t write down there or back there.00:29:14
Therefore, from a strategic point of view,00:29:16
Navalny himself, by the way, called for this00:29:18
because you understood very well the most00:29:22
effective strategy, especially in00:29:24
Marina elections, when it is important that the00:29:26
candidate is semi-mo,00:29:28
that is, less than 50% of the vote for any00:29:30
other summer, you can also just here I00:29:33
explain that there is no point in public00:29:35
leaders betting on this strategy00:29:37
since you are on your own later00:29:38
discredits because it will lead to a00:29:40
low result, by the way, at one time,00:29:42
when this was also the eleventh year, when00:29:44
Navalny voted to vote for any00:29:46
other party, then why the hell is anyone00:29:47
who remembers? Yes, that means some of our representatives00:29:50
mean our public00:29:52
thought that this is how cool it means we’re there, that00:29:55
means we’ll advertise what00:29:57
This is a piglet, so what effect? There00:29:59
wasn’t any, it was a media effect in the00:30:01
first place. About what kind of media effect was it00:30:04
more in a beaker? it’s that they promoted each00:30:06
other00:30:07
as they didn’t know and don’t know.00:30:09
Because according to the results of the protocols for the00:30:10
elections of that year, the most a high percentage of00:30:12
valid ballots was there as in the00:30:14
same regions where it was always there00:30:16
Chukotka Jewish Autonomous Region where there has never00:30:20
been any naha no democrats in the region ever since and00:30:22
where spoiling ballots or voting00:30:25
against everyone there before would always be00:30:27
associated with poor living conditions00:30:31
had nothing to do with any strategies, and in large cities where00:30:33
the company was allegedly there Moscow00:30:36
St. Petersburg, the percentage was low there. So00:30:38
it remained, it didn’t affect anything00:30:40
at all, that is, not a00:30:42
single one proven by facts with00:30:45
historical records, whenever at least one the company on00:30:48
ballots gave no effect, we have no effect00:30:51
even in those years when it is believed that there00:30:52
was no falsification and now in00:30:54
general the US is talking about this, you have a higher00:30:56
class article for the Forbes publication it is about the00:31:00
scenarios of the current company further00:31:02
scenarios I have a lot of questions I hope00:31:04
we are at least part We’ll have time to sort it out. But first00:31:06
of all, I’d like to forward the question from00:31:10
our user Agnieszka Aleksandrov.00:31:13
Alexander nod really believes that something00:31:15
depends on how we00:31:17
vote. I believe that our00:31:20
actions affect our position with you00:31:24
because well, act the only thing00:31:27
you have, you understand That is, this is not00:31:28
a guarantee Yes, but if you do nothing,00:31:31
then definitely nothing will ever happen; the choice is00:31:33
very simple, yes, or there is no chance at all,00:31:35
never and for anything, they have00:31:37
at least some, that is, and History00:31:40
is from the point of view of success This is a story about00:31:43
what someone tries to do there00:31:45
once unsuccessfully twice unsuccessfully three times00:31:47
unsuccessfully There and so on then and then00:31:49
suddenly something works out in cases where00:31:51
someone suddenly out of nowhere00:31:53
comes to achieve success well in their life00:31:55
it happens, of course, but there are very, very few of them,00:31:57
after all, politics is a story about a00:31:58
political marathon. This is a story about a00:32:01
long struggle; seriously expect that you will00:32:03
get something right away. Well, this is very00:32:04
naive; this is youthful; this is some kind of maximalism; that is, this is what00:32:09
sense, one must act first of all00:32:11
on the basis of self-respect, based on faith in one’s00:32:13
own00:32:14
principles. Well, the rest, as00:32:17
they say, do what you can and00:32:19
what will be will be. Therefore, it seems to me that00:32:21
this is the principle that can00:32:22
work here, and everything else. Well, what’s00:32:24
the point if you drive and do nothing00:32:27
Well, why then do00:32:29
you perform on the street at all? Why do you do anything to someone? A00:32:30
What is your motivation? Well, if00:32:32
you think that nothing can be done, you00:32:34
are minding your own personal affairs00:32:36
there, I don’t know flowers, grow something else,00:32:38
why why why? where do you go to the public00:32:40
you who are you trying to convince of something00:32:42
you are trying to active people Bedi00:32:44
so that they don’t do anything either00:32:45
I’m even wondering how much after00:32:47
yours00:32:57
to my speeches the benefit of another doesn’t have00:33:00
any special relationship it’s about this00:33:03
general mood towards life this is a general00:33:04
approach that is, in general, everything in00:33:07
life is connected, that is, when people00:33:09
succeed in something, when some00:33:10
changes in something stimulate them, and00:33:14
participation in something else, that is, in this sense,00:33:16
if there is a social upsurge, then it00:33:18
affects everything and on the economy and on00:33:19
politics and so on, it’s a very long story, why is it important00:33:22
for the development of the country?00:33:27
Why is political competition important?00:33:29
Because when people see the opportunity to00:33:31
influence public life, it00:33:33
also affects economic activity,00:33:35
including I think Russians now more than00:33:36
ever understood, especially since peace00:33:39
gives peace a guarantee of peace a change of power00:33:42
a certain guarantee That’s because00:33:45
when you believe in yourself when you want something you00:33:49
speak out on everything about the desire to00:33:52
build a house there I don’t know about the desire00:33:53
to open some kind of business something come up with00:33:55
and when you when you are depressed then you do00:33:57
n’t want anything at all and that is that and this00:34:00
And your house will be abandoned there and everything00:34:02
in the world will be bad but let’s move on to your00:34:05
article for Forbes and I will allow myself to00:34:08
quote you can assume that00:34:09
if Nadezhdin collected signatures00:34:11
quietly, his chances of getting on the ballot00:34:14
would have been higher. In general, it’s really possible to collect00:34:16
signatures quietly. Well, let’s say handing over00:34:20
something that you collected. I think not.00:34:22
In fact, it was possible to collect it. It00:34:23
was just money, that is, well,00:34:25
actually in fact, many things in life are00:34:28
simply connected with a certain logical00:34:31
sequence of certain00:34:34
forced actions. And then they seem to00:34:36
give birth to some kind of political reality,00:34:37
that is, in fact, the entire mass00:34:40
media company is reliable in collecting00:34:42
signatures arose for one reason00:34:44
because there was no money for signatures That00:34:46
is, in reality, if there was money, it would be possible to00:34:48
hire technologists00:34:50
locally, it would be possible to pay people00:34:51
who have been doing this for many years and00:34:54
100,000 is at a price Lifting back, that00:34:57
is, well, a political strategist does not need to explain00:34:59
what it is, that is, it is not that00:35:01
much, there is ue local networks there,00:35:05
let’s say if, for example, there is some kind of00:35:06
regional deputy, then I assure you00:35:09
he has lists of supporters there for those who00:35:10
come to the reception there will be several hundred00:35:12
people Yes and so on That is,00:35:13
the accumulation of a certain number of00:35:14
people it allows all these problems00:35:16
Nadya was forced to decide to go for an00:35:18
active media company because00:35:20
he had no money, and then it turned out that the00:35:22
right time was in the right00:35:25
place for the issue and then the snowball effect began,00:35:28
that is, in this sense,00:35:31
this is exactly what this publicity is exactly what00:35:34
it became, let’s say a00:35:37
historical fact of social life,00:35:40
this of course forced the00:35:42
authorities to react to everything that was00:35:43
happening, and I think that before this,00:35:46
a scenario was quite possible when there was hope00:35:48
to register these and the granny there00:35:50
Malinko and there would be something reminiscent of the00:35:52
elections of past years when there were00:35:54
many candidates and no competition But00:35:56
since Nadezhdin appeared and00:35:58
this powerful company arose around him,00:36:00
registering him meant00:36:01
prolonging this company for the00:36:04
month and a half that remained there with the00:36:07
results unknown, the ballots00:36:09
arouse public enthusiasm Well, in00:36:11
general, this threatened to get out of00:36:13
control. This means that Nadya had to00:36:15
shoot in any way. how to remove it if00:36:18
all the other candidates did00:36:20
not carry out a noticeable public collection of signatures. So we need to00:36:22
remove them too, that is, in this way the00:36:24
active company forced us to hope. As a result, we00:36:27
finally went to the00:36:29
ballot scenario with the four candidates that00:36:31
we observe; this is an anti-record we00:36:33
had in 2008 four candidates and00:36:35
now four candidates are forced. I don’t00:36:37
think that this was initially an inevitable00:36:39
scenario; another was possible. But this is00:36:41
exactly the kind of happening around00:36:44
Nadezhdin. And this movement00:36:47
left the authorities with no choice. Therefore, here’s an00:36:48
example for you: When public activity00:36:50
forces the authorities to go to some lengths then00:36:53
the scenarios And by the way, what’s the plus?00:36:57
What’s the minus? Well, you wrote that this is00:36:59
generally a win-win situation for everyone that00:37:00
Nadezhda is not allowed to participate in the elections Well, yes Well, in00:37:04
principle, any situation in this life00:37:05
always It has, as it were, different sides00:37:07
because you need to look at everything analytically,00:37:09
that is, what is the main minus of00:37:12
four candidates, the minus is that00:37:15
you will have iron control00:37:17
because each candidate has00:37:19
the ability to appoint observers,00:37:21
so if Nadezhdin would be there, everyone else00:37:23
would have more observers, now there are only00:37:24
four candidates the situation in the regions is00:37:27
very ambiguous, somewhere, let’s say,00:37:30
political parties have living organizations00:37:32
that are ready to guide people, and there are00:37:33
regions, let’s say where where All the parks are under00:37:35
the governor And what the heck, they will appoint00:37:38
independent observers at the site,00:37:40
yes, that is, they will rather play00:37:42
giveaways there Therefore, here from the point of view of00:37:44
control, a decrease in the number of00:37:46
candidates This is bad, but from the point00:37:49
of view of, let’s say, the symbolism of the results,00:37:54
this is what we have now, well, some00:37:55
chance Dat Why it gives because But00:37:59
due to the fact that we have a very weak00:38:00
candidate from the communists Kharitonov Uh-huh Well00:38:03
age and image since he is a00:38:05
peasant and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has a city I would say this many00:38:07
times yes the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is a city00:38:09
party a long time ago therefore therefore an00:38:11
elderly agrarian for a city party Well00:38:13
this is somewhat strange to00:38:16
put it mildly his company itself is obviously not00:38:19
aimed at expansion the electorate is not00:38:21
aimed in any way at the youth, well,00:38:22
it is aimed at the electorate that was00:38:24
communist 20 years ago and not today, it’s00:38:27
very cathartic, some kind of patriarchal,00:38:29
and so on, therefore the cadat is very weak. For the00:38:32
first time in all these 30 years, there may be an00:38:36
opportunity to get the second in the place of a00:38:38
candidate no more conservative than the00:38:41
government itself because the government would say00:38:44
maybe we are wrong but who, if not us,00:38:47
people want a tougher scenario00:38:55
Nini not Kharitonov Slu or Davankov00:38:59
Davankov a good chance precisely because00:39:00
his company is as close as possible That’s just in00:39:02
terms of rhetoric Nadezhdino and because00:39:04
he still represents00:39:06
the only00:39:07
candidate of all the youth and the urban00:39:10
intelligentsia, that is, we can say00:39:12
that the removal of hopes for00:39:23
consolidation because they put the00:39:26
authorities in a completely different image00:39:27
position, and that is, they will not00:39:29
say that if not us Yes, then it00:39:30
will be even worse No, the dream will still be00:39:32
somewhat different and Vlasna too, well, you know,00:39:34
it’s only people who don’t want to00:39:37
understand what they say that everything is00:39:39
black and white, it’s not like that, the authorities are00:39:41
watching everything very closely, we00:39:43
already said today, she everything00:39:45
she does is very rational, she does it for a reason, and00:39:46
there, to suppress simply means to drive into00:39:50
depression, to deprive the possibility of control00:39:52
there, to deprive the will to resist There and00:39:54
so on, and she very carefully00:39:55
looks at other points00:39:58
of view in society, currently there is a00:40:01
demand and ve what00:40:06
there, the Russian authorities at the beginning of the00:40:09
2000s reproduced the current Communist Party of the Russian Federation there, the00:40:11
patriotic Soviet gin, for what00:40:14
purpose did she do this, she did the goal00:40:16
to grab self-knowledge, this is a00:40:18
technological polytechnological00:40:23
what is it that they00:40:29
put themselves in the MTO and00:40:31
Dali very much is the case, you know, the fil00:40:37
arrives, says the VM00:40:40
convinces political technology has become exactly00:40:43
type of thinking that these myths that were00:40:45
sowed as a polytechnological approach, they00:40:47
became precisely an installation00:40:55
of power, the more order in the00:40:57
political field, the greater the effect00:40:59
that the official himself becomes a consumer of the00:41:03
same order that he approved, that00:41:05
is, at the first stage you expel other00:41:06
points of view at the second stage, you00:41:08
fill the entire space with your own00:41:10
press releases, paid for by00:41:12
some kind of talking heads, then you00:41:14
analyze them yourself and make sure how00:41:17
right you are. It’s brilliant and it turns out to monitor00:41:21
yourself, yes. That is, you00:41:23
monopolize everything and then on the basis of this00:41:24
you say, but I’m not wine such00:41:27
moods and then you sincerely believe in it00:41:30
Yes, this is how it works A vicious00:41:32
circle turns out if there is a way out of it,00:41:35
there is some way out when society does not00:41:38
sleep and tries to do something00:41:39
on its own and I must say that thank00:41:41
God we live there after all not not in the00:41:45
Great Patriotic War not in the seventies And in a situation00:41:47
where there is a huge number of00:41:49
information platforms to talk to the media, you00:42:00
know, often people don’t understand what they00:42:03
want until they00:42:05
see it, that is, you need to understand00:42:07
to feel the demand, you need to try00:42:09
To reach people you need to look words00:42:11
need to look for images because a person00:42:15
may not know his attitude towards what at00:42:17
that moment until he Uvi there00:42:26
would be no progress but he always00:42:29
rode a horse well oh the car is so00:42:31
cool but but the person was not offered a00:42:33
car until he didn’t know that he could ride by00:42:35
car and if authoritative sources00:42:37
say that it’s bad Here’s a car - This is a00:42:38
bad car - It’s from an00:42:40
onion It doesn’t matter at all00:42:43
You know, if there are other options and a00:42:47
person sees them and a00:42:56
chamois Well, probably someone Maybe00:42:58
knows there was such a thing Russian philosopher By the way, I00:43:00
was one of his students back when I was00:43:02
studying at Moscow State University in the nineties.00:43:05
Sergeevich died a long time ago. And he was such a00:43:09
culturologist, he was00:43:11
always very interested in How00:43:14
society is changing, the Reverse Rhone00:43:16
of propaganda, and so he analyzed, say,00:43:19
How the Soviet Propaganda00:43:21
itself Rusha, let’s say Soviet films, as00:43:23
we know, are very ST tion content00:43:26
that could be shown in00:43:28
cinemas. So what if, say,00:43:30
the film was allowed to be released in the Soviet Union, there00:43:31
should be a decaying West showing the00:43:33
moral decay of capitalism There and00:43:35
so on, what it looked like, here00:43:36
they show, let’s say they take away the film00:43:37
for example, about the collapse of the bourgeois family00:43:40
Yes, everything is bad at home there, that means the children don’t00:43:42
like the mother there, the wife means she’s cheating on00:43:45
her husband There, and so on, everyone quarreled, the00:43:46
family fell apart, it means such00:43:49
bourgeois decomposition, the son left in his00:43:51
car, the daughter left in her car, the wife00:43:53
left for in his car and the husband went to his00:43:55
parents in Vila, which means that the00:43:58
Soviet man sees. He doesn’t see the crisis of00:44:02
the family, he sees. Well, everyone has their own00:44:04
car. Therefore, in this sense, Propaganda,00:44:08
that is, it’s impossible to completely replace00:44:10
life, and what00:44:12
seems to be, let’s say, a way of manipulation00:44:16
in reality, it often works for self-destruction,00:44:17
that is, well, it’s impossible00:44:20
to live in complete isolation from the world when it is00:44:22
completely different, that00:44:25
is,00:44:32
relatives, friends of the Armed Forces move around,00:44:35
everyone understands what quality00:44:36
the goods are actually there, and so on, well, it’s00:44:39
pointless to say when people know00:44:41
what’s in in life, in fact, this is not so Yes,00:44:43
I don’t know very well00:44:46
where the best telephones and TVs are, where the00:44:49
best cars are, but I know you can Milli of00:44:52
stories, what a cool auto industry, Well,00:44:56
this will really change the attitude towards our00:44:58
cars,00:44:59
no, I’m very afraid that those who want to00:45:03
change all this this approach, they will listen to00:45:05
your answer and simply turn off the Internet and00:45:08
close the borders so that no one sees how00:45:10
it is possible it is impossible. This is in00:45:15
Why Well,00:45:18
because North Korea is the00:45:24
Koryo era has come, it just00:45:27
never came to it Yeah, that is, you know,00:45:30
you can stay for some- then the stages of00:45:32
evolution Just if you If you00:45:33
have moved to the next level, there are00:45:36
such00:45:39
islands,00:45:40
Lord, no name cheat in the outer00:45:44
ocean of the Similan Islands, this one here still00:45:47
lives there, the treasure00:45:50
that has not arrived, the sale of the social00:45:52
system Yes, they have been declared as nature reserves for00:45:54
several people there because00:45:56
it is forbidden to land so as not to spread the00:45:58
infection there so that those people do not die there, there is the00:46:00
Stone Age there, people are not00:46:03
ozeni from the song of the same name. Well, why is00:46:06
it there because there artificially00:46:07
cut off contacts with the outside world, it00:46:09
simply never came to another melting00:46:12
revolutionary stage If you’ve already moved on,00:46:15
well, that inspires some optimism.00:46:18
However, I wanted to return to the elections and to the00:46:22
campaign propaganda that the00:46:24
candidates are distributing. You, including on your00:46:25
Telegram channel which bears your name00:46:28
Alexander Kynev, share videos of00:46:30
Davankova, Kharitonov, Slutsky and00:46:35
here with me The next question arose is00:46:37
what we see in these videos, it00:46:40
evokes a feeling of what is now00:46:41
called cringe and how do you think the00:46:45
candidates, realizing that they are not fighting for00:46:47
first place, how they position themselves00:46:50
and how they could position themselves to00:46:52
do it in a less00:46:54
cringe way Well, I think the fact that this is a cringe -00:46:57
it just means that they have00:46:59
no motivation to achieve Success,00:47:01
they are a giveaway. Because if a candidate is00:47:04
seriously trying to achieve something, he00:47:06
will never in his life. It’s such a shame00:47:08
to post that we see this and00:47:11
an attempt, as if not to gain too00:47:13
much, but in any case, with00:47:15
Kharitonov, absolutely exactly, that is,00:47:16
as for No, well, you can not gain a lot but at the00:47:19
same time not lose face, but you’re just00:47:20
looking at the same Kharitonov, this is just00:47:22
something terrible Well, Well, here Well, here’s00:47:24
a company Well,00:47:26
this year’s company really is something completely00:47:30
incomparable with anything else, I don’t remember a single00:47:32
company when there was00:47:34
a crossbow for that much, that is, for example, sternum00:47:37
fought sincerely Yes, sternum had a lot of00:47:39
creativity, there were quite interesting videos00:47:41
and that’s it now, well, it’s just heaven and00:47:44
earth as far as Slutsky is concerned. Well, it00:47:46
seems to me that00:47:48
when his00:47:50
videos Iya00:47:54
die no matter how, that is, to put a lot of00:47:57
pressure on Lutsky’s personality means00:48:00
to overshadow Zhirinovsky, but without00:48:02
Zhirinovsky it’s clear that there’s00:48:05
nothing special to offer, that’s why they00:48:08
apparently chose the path of being as00:48:10
reminiscent as possible about Vla Volfovich there,00:48:12
well, there’s really nothing to talk about. This VI is not a coach, not a00:48:16
coach from the inevitability. What is00:48:19
called there is00:48:21
n’t really any other option, so they could probably launch00:48:25
the company M. Only that is, talk not00:48:28
about the candidate but00:48:29
there, but translate it into the problem there,00:48:32
let’s say, for example, Slutsk for there00:48:34
something that means there, for example, there is00:48:36
business protection there, or they have00:48:38
a lot of private small initiatives there,00:48:39
maternity capital There and so on, they00:48:42
could have gone down this path, but for00:48:44
some reason they decided there again,00:48:47
it means that’s all they can do throw in the fact that00:48:50
Zhirinovsky is eternal There and so on Nuna00:48:53
doesn’t think that this is a technologist’s00:48:56
mistake, that’s what concerns00:48:58
Davankov’s company there Yes, it’s not bad, but00:49:01
you just need to understand one thing when I00:49:04
understand very well when voters are00:49:07
very unhappy they say that Well,00:49:09
why doesn’t he finish there it was already time00:49:11
to be bolder. Why doesn’t he talk about it? He doesn’t00:49:12
talk about it there, and so on, you know,00:49:15
it’s important to always maintain a sense of proportion00:49:17
because we all understand the00:49:19
conditions we live in and work. You can, of course,00:49:22
come out and say everything you think about00:49:24
everyone00:49:26
And after this is not to do anything, on principle,00:49:30
let us measure00:49:32
the possibilities, let’s00:49:34
say your desire to be realistic in this00:49:38
sense, that is, in general,00:49:41
politics is long and exhausting, you00:49:54
need a ring to track every step,00:49:57
sometimes you can do nothing but at the00:50:00
same time not make a mistake, you will end up00:50:02
winning, and we have enough such examples00:50:04
a lot And to demand everything at once,00:50:06
but this is some kind of maximalism, but that’s not how00:50:09
politics works - it’s not about love,00:50:12
it’s not about marriage, politics is about a large00:50:15
number of some big small00:50:17
compromises00:50:18
and attempts, using different steps, to00:50:21
influence one to influence another00:50:23
influence the third There and so on in00:50:25
this way, try to make life00:50:27
change in the direction that is00:50:29
beneficial to you When you stop buying a00:50:30
product because it has become bad Yes and00:50:32
talk about this Well, sooner or later it00:50:34
affects the manufacturer either he00:50:36
goes bankrupt or he in the end it00:50:38
starts to work better There and so on00:50:40
When you support candidates00:50:41
who are close to you And there are a lot of you00:50:44
gradually the role of Kanda begins to grow and00:50:46
then Maybe you will not be two but00:50:48
three then already and you can choose from two00:50:50
close ones the one who speaks even00:50:52
more close things and so on That is, So00:50:54
gradually, step by step Step by step00:50:56
Step by step, but you can’t have everything and00:50:59
everything at once, so it seems to me that00:51:01
if we don’t want to, well, just00:51:04
drive ourselves into a corner and00:51:06
say that everything is lost, nothing there is no00:51:08
need to do that, that is, well, we00:51:10
still have no other option. Well, to be00:51:11
realistic, try to do what we00:51:13
can do. Well, how could it be otherwise?00:51:15
Well, we have some options that exist. So00:51:17
we have options to get into00:51:20
some kind of... then another fairy-tale world, but there is no00:51:22
this world, unfortunately deep, and00:51:24
by the way, well, they’re knocked out and they just give up00:51:27
and leave,00:51:29
well, let’s say there are also very different people there, there00:51:33
are people who have no problems with00:51:35
money and they leave where they are better and00:51:37
more comfortable and that’s it that is, well, if00:51:38
now you can buy yourself an apartment00:51:40
in Spain there in Italy and France Well, as they00:51:42
say, the flag is in his hands00:51:44
NOC someone has a profession and he00:51:46
believes that he will find a job, but there are a00:51:48
lot of people who have neither housing00:51:50
nor there will never be a job Who doesn’t know00:51:52
the language and is unlikely to learn it there when he’s00:51:54
already over 50 There and so on So let’s say00:51:57
you were a municipal deputy here,00:51:59
you influenced something, you could hold some00:52:01
public campaigns there, so00:52:03
everyone put pressure on you how bad everything is, you have to00:52:05
dump it, you’re leaving, well, who and who are you00:52:07
there, they give you a place in a hostel with00:52:10
migrants, you get 500 euros and you’re00:52:12
nobody, that is, well, you go to some kind of00:52:14
pickets at the embassy and you, even though00:52:18
all the difficulties there may not have disappointed you00:52:21
listen shut up What did you influence you00:52:23
were someone And who did you become as a result of00:52:26
this you just committed an act of such00:52:28
public political suicide That00:52:30
is, just nobody You helped someone as a00:52:34
result someone felt better in this00:52:36
life after this well that’s why here I am when00:52:41
I look at this,00:52:43
we need to understand that if we want00:52:46
something to change in Russia, we must00:52:48
be in Russia. From outside influence is almost impossible,00:52:53
some microscopically sleepy00:52:55
little eyes that in reality, the further you go,00:52:57
the less the situation inside is influenced by, here00:53:00
we are, you know, walking every00:53:02
week there is an embassy there But this in00:53:04
Russia nothing will change00:53:06
unfortunately Russia is changing time time00:53:08
tells me the director is unfortunately00:53:10
coming to an end Alexander Thank you very much the00:53:13
main lesson that today is to do00:53:15
what should and what will happen We00:53:17
will still continue do something, at least00:53:19
just on the broadcasts and talk about00:53:21
what today00:53:24
surrounds the varnish of this broadcast00:53:26
Subscribe to our channel and00:53:28
including the Telegram channel of Alexandra Niva00:53:30
Until we meet again And most importantly, Take care of00:53:32
yourself and your loved ones Take care of00:53:36
yourself do not despair despair terrible00:53:39
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