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this is such an association the head of the fund drive

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at our disposal this is one of the

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participants of this association

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our Victoria we meet one or

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more times snowstorm now we are

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finishing our season and going out to Vitim

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Kaneko talking about various important things

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related to Christianity, culture and

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everyday life, as if the person to these

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meetings is an [ __ ], you won’t be the first one

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like this there for a long time if they arose yet, but in

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general, this idea got a three-dimensional

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look at different political moments,

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I heard it for the first time from Fedor, a brand name

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celica, probably We

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know so much that we even organize

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special supervision meetings at

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which the

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priest, the archivist and other

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specialists were specially called so that the

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person who came to

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psychotherapy could look at the problem in such a comprehensive way, then

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there was a discussion about fear at the

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Christmas readings of the year in the

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psychology section and well somehow unexpectedly for

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me it sounded like a boss, well, what is it to

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fear God,

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should one be afraid of him, should a

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believer feel fear, and in what sense

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should he write it off, such but

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unexpectedly, like a heated discussion, and

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today somehow everything got disconnected but

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now that it’s not until the end of August, we

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planned that there would be three speakers,

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but there was a small video and I got sick, I

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couldn’t come today and asks everyone to pray

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and the health of the bed, how are you, it’s really hard, but

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first I think it’s worth it since

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she will speak, but also since she can make it

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difficult here we are today With us are the priest

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Dmitry Samsonov and the psychiatrist Anton

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Markovich, we

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will probably each have some kind of

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correctional part of our own and then there

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will be time for questions answer

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good evening dear friends for the first time in the

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lecture hall I am sitting on this side I usually

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attended Victoria giving as a listener an

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interesting experience I I would like to offer

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you my reflections on the topic of what kind of fear

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we encounter in the Bible and the reflections differ from the lecture or conversation

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format

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in that they are probably shorter, they are

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more freely structured, they are

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always open to dialogue, very important,

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your opinion, how does this respond,

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can there be any

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questions? remain therefore, I think in the

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part that will be devoted to answers,

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something can be discussed, the first

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fear that catches the eye of the Bible is the

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fear that arises when meeting

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God, the

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Old Testament righteous and in fact,

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not only they, in general, many characters

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experience fear when meeting God,

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Moses when the epiphany did not happen to him,

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he covered his face because he was afraid of

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God a little earlier Jacob when he goes to

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Harran and stops at a place

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called and the film he falls asleep from

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fatigue and he has a dream in which a

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certain God also happens

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Eugene

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sees the famous staircase up to the staircase

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Jacob and God turns to him, he

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wakes up, says how scary this

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place is, the

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parents of the national hero and judge

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Samson after the appearance of the angel of the Lord,

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which is also generally

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synonymous with the announcement and communication with

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God, they say, we will probably die

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because we communicated with God, a

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similar reaction from Gideon, also one

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of the Israeli judges, when he communicates with

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God, he has the feeling that I met

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God, I will die, and it’s interesting that God is the

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first to respond in this situation with

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encouragement and support;

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God is the first to

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utter the words, don’t be afraid, and

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this is best seen. yes, using the example of

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Abraham and his family before Abraham do not be afraid, I am

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your shield when addressing Isaac, do not be afraid,

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the god of your father Abraham, I am with you,

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this is the appearance to Jacob in a dream, I am the god of

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your father Abraham and the god of Isaac, do not be afraid,

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probably the meeting with God is experienced

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as stunning of a person’s experience under

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this colossal gap with something

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transcendental and with something else

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other with a capital letter, what I can’t

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comprehend is what I can’t accept, it

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scares and God comes to the rescue first,

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this seems to me to be very important for Clive

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Lewis, the

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famous English writer,

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Christian apologist, and in one of his

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early works, which is called

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suffering or pain, in other translations

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there are very interesting arguments about the fact

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that the transcendental

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experience given to a person does not cause

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fear, but rather causes awe,

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awe and a feeling of horror, a leg of horror that is not

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frightening, but horror of horror of distances to

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horror of the abyss of a

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global gap and in many languages the

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same words are used to express fear, expression of horror, in

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addition, Lewis connects this beyond with the

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existence of an objective

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moral law and here I,

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slightly interpolating his reasoning from

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other books, can say what could be

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fear is caused by the fact that a person

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is faced with the bearer of this

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objective moral laws within

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himself, he feels a discrepancy with him and this

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frightens a person when we move from the Old

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Testament to the Gospel, a

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wonderful fishing when the fishermen spent the whole night trying to

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catch something, they are

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already tired, they don’t care it’s not possible to

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visit, says Versetti, that

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is, cast

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your nets again and a huge number of fish Peter

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says, Lord, it will come out to me because I am a

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sinful person

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and the evangelist adds either horror seized him, that

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is, he felt horror and the Lord

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answers him with the same words, don’t be

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afraid, well, further goes from now on you will

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catch a person,

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in fact, it looks like this fear is a

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connection that sucks with the feeling of

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one’s own sin, in fact,

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inadequacy to God, it comes from Adam

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when God is looking for a home after the fall

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in paradise and Adam says, Lord, I heard your

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voice and was afraid because I’m so

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Probably we can

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interpret, and even a little bit such a

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bold interpretation, before the nak nak of this

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law on those good deeds to which you

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seem to be associated with you, this is the

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first fear and I would like to emphasize

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what kind of reaction people have, yes, this is stunned,

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this is the experience of horror, often biblical

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characters they they fall on their faces they went through this

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experience, they feel like they are approaching

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death, yes we will die because we

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saw God and God responds to this with

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encouragement, the second fear is not personal, it

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also did not become noticeable in God’s answers when the

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chosen people find themselves in a state

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of oppression when the people find themselves under

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power for example, foreign invaders

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there, the Philistines or Assyrians

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or Babylon, they cry out to God

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and fear is not always clearly read in this cry, there

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is pain there, there

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is despair, there is a feeling abandoned by

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sti and God and this is answered with words,

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often through the prophets with words of encouragement,

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don’t be afraid. Isa and for example I am

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your Lord I hold you by your right hand

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I will not leave you and I tell you I

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function with you

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exactly approximately uri has the same

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words don’t be afraid I hear you I will save you

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too important words but in fact

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this one I would named them if the first fear

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is the fear of meetings, this second one seems to be the

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fear of abandonment and by God, no matter what

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caused the current state of the

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chosen people, it is experienced as

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God abandoned us to him, now we are going to

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destruction and probably this fear has a

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reflection and is private for each person,

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that is personal is the fear of death, the fear of

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illness, the fear of failure, and this fear is also

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experienced in the Bible, there are many

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examples:

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the apostles are sailing and pain begins,

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mentor, save us, we are also perishing, fear,

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fear for our lives, we will never again be

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like a people, like those people who

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gathered in the boat, they are in real danger

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danger, the Lord comes to their aid,

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but from all the possible examples of the

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Lord's response to personal fear to fear,

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collective fear of a community, fear of the people of

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a community, I chose several examples, for

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example, the Lord sends disciples to

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preach and say do not be afraid,

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for you are better than many small birds, that is,

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before you difficulties threaten, I admit it, you

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have a presentiment of it, but do not be afraid

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because I am with you and amazing words, yes, do not be

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afraid, little flock, because your father

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was pleased to give you the kingdom,

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despite the fact that they

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surround you, despite fear, horror,

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this bearing of the cross is a

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dangerous division of pastoral service service,

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yes, because for the Roman authorities this

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service is like a red rag and it threatens the

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cross was always understood as

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something very real.

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3rd century and the crucifixion for the rebels was seen

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very often and they knew how terrible it was

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and knew that they had to be afraid of it, but God

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encourages them in at the same time, the reaction to

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this internal state often

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becomes an attempt to build a relationship with God

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in such a way that he

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never leaves you, and to paraphrase

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the words of one famous Western Bible, the

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100th Torah is for people, but not yet when

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I get to a small point in the Old

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Testament,

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these are stories about salvation that God does not

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leave, about the fact that God comes and

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saves, delivers from fear, delivers from

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these situations that cause fear, and

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if in my life or in the life of our

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people while I don’t see this salvation, this

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deliverance, then we even need to strengthen the

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implementation of

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that part of the Torah that is responsible for

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these legal institutions and then

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she will really come and it turns out that a

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certain situation is earning

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this God's favor and when we

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turn to the new covenant and I have chosen for the

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third fear of

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myself so far I have identified three types of fear: the

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fear of meeting, the fear of abandonment and the fact

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that I

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actually called it, well, this is the project on

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perfect fear, this is the first letter of

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the Apostle John the theologian, chapter 4, verse 18,

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everyone knows that in love there is no fear,

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but perfect love casts out fear, then there is

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still part of the verse, I

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will quote it not according to the synodal translation

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translations by Bishop Cassian and ugly

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fear has to do with punishment, and

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the one who is afraid is

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not yet perfect in love, also approximately,

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but close enough, this verse

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also speaks about one of the ways of an excellent

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way to interact with God, how this

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interaction with God, how it should be

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built, on the one hand, showing

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love is a sign it’s like an

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identification mark, it’s like the emblem of

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knights on the chest,

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which says that we belong to

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God and relate to him from the other side,

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this is a reflection of one of these, I may

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not have enough words for the qualities or properties of the

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divine nature of the victims of love

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that was revealed in Christ and the entire 4th

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chapter of this message, each verse

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complements each other, firstly, the box gives

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us an example verse 11 if God loved

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us so much, then for NATO we must love those

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loved ones who surround us

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12 amazing style before God,

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no one has seen anywhere I

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can with the gospel from him we need to

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unconsciously do a roll call, there are

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similar words, this means that we

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can recognize God somehow through experience in approaching him,

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not in a plan to approach him by nature, but what are

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you so dogmatically complex, well, somehow he

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will feel himself involved in God only after

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seeing Christ and seeing his ministries, all of

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his service is the service of sacrificial

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love, which is also discussed in this chapter,

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and the amazing words that for me

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complete this topic are that he who

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arrives in love is God, and

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God not only arrives with him, but

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abides in him, and even the need to

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fulfill the commandments is

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transformed in the next the chapter we

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read does not connect the two verses until whoever

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loves me will keep my commandments and

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the emphasis shifts, you make the commandments not

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in order to avoid the punishment of God,

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not in order to say mun, here I am, I

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did something now be with me,

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but because you share it service to the

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service of Christ, yes, because we

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make up his body, we share, you

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can probably say, ideals, yes, we

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share ideals, this is also important for us,

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Lord, we do not because it is

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necessary because we saw in this

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the truth, some higher truth with which we are

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now ready to be and And you Dorothea have

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useful teachings in your soul that are known,

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I think many people know the division of the rhinestones of the

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slave, the fear of the servant and the fear of the son, and

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it seems that these schemes correlate a little,

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I didn’t try to

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correlate them, so dense, serious, in

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order to see in some kind of pattern,

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but the fear of the slave writes wow dorotheus this is

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the fear of punishment until God will punish me

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the fear of a servant is the fear of not receiving a

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reward from him because I did

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n’t do something, didn’t finish what I could

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do and even get some increase in

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spiritual benefits in the kingdom of heaven for fear

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it’s when you love your son so much that

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every action of yours is contrary to God, it

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causes some kind of pain in you, well, how can

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it be, it’s really true,

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it’s really true, it’s

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really good, it’s that I’m now

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lying my heart about this good,

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it brings, well, it’s like fear of causing

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offense fear of causing pain to God himself,

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if we talk about such a very difficult topic,

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that our actions cause pain to God,

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in this regard, fear of meeting and

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fear of

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abandonment, they are similar and correspond to

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1 2 categories in some fears of a slave

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and fear of service

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but not completely, but it cannot be said that

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the first is the first the second the second, as if

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they constitute two integral categories of

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the fear of the son of this one, the fear of

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which the Apostle John the theologian speaks and

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about whom we read his letter

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and of course now composing the body of Christ and

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into a new renewed people is a people of the new

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testament, I think that we are all called

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to gradually accept this fear of

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our last life,

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to be guided in one way or another here, dear friends,

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perhaps this is the lecture part of the reflections

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that I would like to share with you, so I

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think that we probably pose questions for a long time

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until the end of all lectures and then then

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We

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will try to answer to the best of our ability, thank you very much, I

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will talk about completely different fears, and

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as you understand, psychiatrists, psychologists and

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psychotherapists do not come with the fear of God,

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so I will talk about

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fears in the medical sense of the

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proton, what do you have, our patients, and

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I thought while preparing for our meeting I

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because it’s probably not so important

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to tell you what kind of fears there are

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because they come in a wide

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variety of how much, how to

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build an offensive in such a way so that it is

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useful for those who themselves have

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fears for those who are faced with fears

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from loved ones

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logical 3 fear

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I thought that It’s better

00:19:42

to tell you about such medical

00:19:44

classifications of countries. Medical

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psychologically, I

00:19:49

obviously say that I simplified

00:19:51

the classification, then I was a little rude to them, but

00:19:55

nevertheless, the

00:19:57

essence of the problem here remains,

00:20:02

first of all, fears can be divided into

00:20:05

the reactive so-called ottoman,

00:20:10

first a few words about the order of the

00:20:13

reactive words reaction, that is, in

00:20:15

in this case, fear is a reaction to

00:20:18

some dangerous or dangerous event in quotes,

00:20:23

everyone hears some event

00:20:25

that a person perceives as dangerous

00:20:27

and

00:20:29

medicine says that fear

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is of a reactive nature

00:20:37

when the criteria are met, so I

00:20:42

call the criteria reactivity, the

00:20:44

first criterion is that fear arises

00:20:46

after some kind of fear, but for example,

00:20:54

what kind of fear, let’s take the type on which thread and the

00:20:57

hunchbacked test

00:20:58

yes, well, for example, there in this audience of

00:21:03

your tiger, I was scared, the second criterion

00:21:08

is that the

00:21:09

object of fear itself sounds like an

00:21:11

experience, that is, I’m afraid of the tiger,

00:21:13

they are something they don’t understand something

00:21:18

3 the stimulus goes away the fear goes away, yes, that is,

00:21:21

fear depends on the presence or absence

00:21:26

of incentives or on the time during which

00:21:29

the style touches everyone and the tiger I

00:21:31

calm down and

00:21:36

4 criteria are that the reactivity is fear, it is

00:21:41

easily explained based on the stimulus and on the

00:21:44

character of the person, that is, good I know

00:21:48

this person, we understood that the tiger

00:21:50

simply could not react

00:21:52

differently to this stimulus, maybe this is not a

00:21:55

very good example with the tiger, we were scared,

00:21:57

we were all bone spheres,

00:21:59

but in order to be scared of a

00:22:02

small dog as questions

00:22:05

run up, you already need to have some

00:22:07

certain characterological as if

00:22:09

certain character traits are possible, even though

00:22:11

these two things need to be approached like a

00:22:15

basket, when all these four

00:22:18

criteria are met,

00:22:20

we are talking about the fact that fear is of a

00:22:23

reactive nature and most often such

00:22:26

fears are healthy, that is, they are not a

00:22:28

manifestation of an illness, not always for students

00:22:35

with On the opposite side there is

00:22:37

fear, which for the most part

00:22:39

but also does not always have a disease, they

00:22:43

are called autochthonous

00:22:45

or also endogenous or biochemical, but

00:22:48

the most

00:22:49

auto who on this broadest concept has

00:22:54

long had meaning is the most precise, it means

00:22:57

that fear arises on its own from

00:22:59

nowhere, so it does not mean born

00:23:03

immediately out of nothing

00:23:08

really, and what does it mean for a psychiatrist?

00:23:12

I'm a psychiatrist, everything says born immediately,

00:23:17

not today, arising from this means,

00:23:19

arising from biochemistry, the doctor can still

00:23:26

bring it all together, but in general this is how it

00:23:30

turns out because the

00:23:35

areas of the brain and substance are already known which are involved in

00:23:39

the occurrence of such a thing, but there will be a lot of fear

00:23:41

that a large

00:23:43

number of medications have been developed that

00:23:46

quite well help this fear to be replenished,

00:23:49

but the point here is that disturbances in the

00:23:54

biochemical processes of the wear or

00:23:58

fluctuations of simply

00:24:01

these chemical processes, they are not perceived at the

00:24:04

mental level of

00:24:05

psychological as

00:24:07

fear as anxiety

00:24:09

and moreover how is fear not differentiated how is

00:24:13

fear to me what is it another matter that this

00:24:16

fear is not about anything most often somehow

00:24:18

still objectification clings to

00:24:20

some topics fear there is nothing to

00:24:24

worry about is much harder than fear is

00:24:26

public

00:24:27

with the usual fear you can do at least something

00:24:29

you can avoid talking

00:24:38

about the fact that fear has a cardboard

00:24:42

nature, you can talk when

00:24:45

at least one criterion out of

00:24:47

four criteria is missing, in order instead of

00:24:51

Vasya, the case is if one criterion

00:24:54

is missing, but you have to think about the fact that it’s

00:24:56

some kind of autochthonous and I’m a chemical

00:24:58

component here screen 2 of 2, and if suddenly it’s

00:25:03

missing, then most likely this

00:25:06

cardboard component is a biochemical

00:25:08

component to play the presenter. Why does it

00:25:11

seem important to me

00:25:15

to say about this that there are such dark fears out there

00:25:18

and an ordinary person doesn’t think about it,

00:25:23

for an ordinary person,

00:25:24

silence is all together with you the reason for all of

00:25:27

it fears have some external

00:25:28

causes, if not

00:25:32

realized, this is a hidden packaging of

00:25:34

consciousness to which it is possible, nevertheless,

00:25:36

only by color you deny psychotherapy,

00:25:39

it is still important to know that it is a country

00:25:41

that really is not

00:25:42

revealed anywhere except for biochemical reasons because

00:25:47

this understanding alone makes it possible to

00:25:53

relate It’s much easier to feel differently about them than a

00:25:58

Russian because if you understand

00:26:02

that your fear or chemically, then you

00:26:06

understand that your brain is

00:26:09

most likely deceiving you, most likely

00:26:14

giving you terrible thoughts that

00:26:17

have no relation to reality, most

00:26:19

likely exaggerating some things

00:26:23

that

00:26:24

can be overcome shift

00:26:25

meets given according to the principles of fear the

00:26:28

eyes are large and grow to the size of

00:26:31

words if the patient understands this

00:26:37

so often it’s just a niche profit practice

00:26:40

that when you explain to the patient that your

00:26:42

fear is of a biochemical nature the brain

00:26:43

now works in such a way that everything seems to be

00:26:47

filtered if possible some

00:26:52

situation, it was worth interpreting the good one, there was a

00:26:54

terrible side, but be sure

00:26:55

to use it to face immediately in this

00:26:59

essence as but work now

00:27:01

and

00:27:03

type what comes to your mind now

00:27:06

at face value,

00:27:07

doubt it, check your thoughts,

00:27:10

test their outfit,

00:27:12

this alone helps to

00:27:15

rise a little above this he

00:27:18

tractor biochemical fear

00:27:20

look at his

00:27:22

analysis of the high position for 1

00:27:29

secondly, you need to understand that when

00:27:32

fears of biochemical nature, as a

00:27:36

rule, medicines can effectively and well help,

00:27:38

this does not mean you must necessarily

00:27:41

resort to not knowing that there

00:27:43

are no other methods, yes, but you

00:27:48

always always need to know that such a

00:27:50

method is Yes, and you can take advantage of,

00:27:59

unfortunately, there are many very illiterate

00:28:02

psychologists who do not see such an

00:28:04

out-of-tone picture of fear and often spend

00:28:08

years

00:28:11

treating a psychotherapeutic patient,

00:28:15

although he can be helped in two weeks with

00:28:17

medication,

00:28:21

regret this happens, they can add

00:28:25

better knowledge about what is there and so dark

00:28:27

fears that they can be quickly helped with

00:28:30

medications and psychotherapy, by the way, too,

00:28:33

psychotherapy here is not aimed at

00:28:37

finding the cause of fear and removing this

00:28:41

reason, it is aimed at

00:28:44

learning to cope with this fear, that

00:28:47

is, despite the fact that it exists because in

00:28:49

Moscow it produces how- then learn to

00:28:52

get along with it, there are different methods,

00:28:55

methods, contemplation, methods called

00:28:58

exposure, methods and relaxation, and there are no

00:29:01

dark therapies that allow

00:29:03

a person, despite the fact that the

00:29:05

chemical action of fear and the brain produces it all the time,

00:29:07

nevertheless,

00:29:10

manage this fear so much to

00:29:13

push back your life so that it does not interfere

00:29:15

even without medications, you are like a medicine,

00:29:24

another point that is important, yes I have

00:29:27

you, I have such fear is that, as a

00:29:31

rule, off-tone fear fluctuates in

00:29:34

intensity, so when it is very

00:29:39

strong, when, accordingly, a person

00:29:40

suffers quite a lot, he can

00:29:43

reassure himself that soon it will become

00:29:45

easier because, as a rule, these are waves,

00:29:48

well, that’s how biochemistry works, these moments,

00:29:54

I think they are important in order to somehow

00:30:00

relate to your fears, my fears of

00:30:03

close friends, so because because because it will

00:30:09

not

00:30:13

cause the greatest adaptation,

00:30:18

this one will come the first slide was a classification of

00:30:21

fear by origin,

00:30:23

now I’ll tell you a little about it, so

00:30:25

fear,

00:30:26

what type of fear in form, not even in

00:30:29

content, camp content can

00:30:31

be content in general, fear is it usually

00:30:33

by chance that psychiatrists are much wetter than the

00:30:39

forms of fear, they

00:30:45

can be specifically identified and receive a little return

00:30:49

the visor I am being coarsened, nevertheless, but it

00:30:52

will be understandable, we can distinguish three main

00:30:56

types of fear, yes, I mean this kind of

00:30:59

fear, I do not consider some kind of

00:31:01

psychotic fears in fear, but a

00:31:03

crazy examination and those lines that

00:31:06

happen to be quite adequate people,

00:31:12

here we can distinguish three types of fear fear

00:31:15

productive fear unproductive fear

00:31:18

obsessive

00:31:25

what is productive fear

00:31:31

but simply put it is the fear without

00:31:33

which you cannot live but imagine

00:31:37

that we have no fear at all there is

00:31:39

no such here it will be good why

00:31:49

unviable truth if if if if

00:31:52

they can cross the road anywhere yes

00:31:55

if while walking with a child and we won’t

00:31:58

follow him with the eyes of an office somewhere, he didn’t

00:32:00

offend until you need a healthy fear in order to

00:32:03

cope with the real dangers

00:32:05

that there are in the world of

00:32:09

spiritual life, by the way, also

00:32:14

what are the characteristics of

00:32:18

thank you, the characteristics of this

00:32:24

productive or

00:32:27

so healthy or, as a rule, it means

00:32:33

firstly it’s fear it is experienced as

00:32:35

natural, this is my nature, this is

00:32:39

normal and I would not like to get rid of this

00:32:41

fear, I need to be it

00:32:47

somewhere sometime, rejection on principle, I

00:32:51

will not, I will not get rid of it, even

00:33:00

if it were possible, and secondly, such

00:33:06

fears are productive Yes, not the actual

00:33:08

path of the lamu and what is called productive is

00:33:10

that they easily turn into specific

00:33:13

actions,

00:33:14

actions, both mental or physical, and

00:33:19

dissolve in these actions of the third, they

00:33:24

gomes, well, let’s take the exam situation,

00:33:29

we all took exams, we were all

00:33:31

afraid to one degree or another,

00:33:35

let’s say the situation is so objective

00:33:41

a person does

00:33:43

not have time to learn very 3 for the exam,

00:33:46

that is, there is something specific to be afraid of,

00:33:52

let’s say he has a productive fear shield,

00:33:56

firstly, he then feels that

00:33:58

he needs this fear of the natural in order to

00:34:00

force him to

00:34:03

watch the neteller face in the remaining time, and secondly,

00:34:09

it will result in a specific action,

00:34:13

for example, you will tell yourself that this is how much

00:34:18

you will learn in stock, what yes,

00:34:23

understanding that I will not learn everything, yes, but apparently

00:34:26

60 percent of the array

00:34:27

will have time in a year, you will occupy such 60 percent of the

00:34:30

rest,

00:34:35

which is called the will of God, the power of

00:34:38

fear will, as it were, pour out into these

00:34:42

activities of his to stimulate him to with this

00:34:45

activity, move into these classes of him in

00:34:48

the study of the subject and dissolve to leave,

00:34:51

that is, as he learns the

00:34:54

fear of being becomes less of this,

00:34:56

becoming healthy naturally, he

00:34:59

will not interfere with him, but on the contrary, he will

00:35:01

stimulate him the following is not

00:35:06

productivity here characteristics

00:35:09

such a person

00:35:17

perceive this is for fear not as

00:35:19

natural but as excessive, it is

00:35:22

excessive; a person does not have to

00:35:25

feel it directly himself, yes, but if you

00:35:27

ask him about it not too much and Russians

00:35:29

worry about it, say yes, too

00:35:32

much, or at least

00:35:35

probably too much, that is, there is a

00:35:37

feeling of excessiveness of redundancy.

00:35:40

first second moment, this fear is

00:35:47

not a product in the sense that it does

00:35:49

not move on to a specific action or

00:35:53

does not move on completely, accordingly it does not

00:35:55

dissolve in this action and thirdly,

00:35:59

we, of course, interfere if we take the

00:36:02

exam situation again, imagine

00:36:05

here unproductive fear then it will

00:36:09

look like this:

00:36:13

a person is not only preparing for exams,

00:36:15

feeling the ceiling, fussing in every possible way

00:36:21

and

00:36:25

coming up to

00:36:28

set himself the task of

00:36:31

not just preparing as much

00:36:34

as he can, but setting himself, for example,

00:36:38

the task of unwinding his brain so that he can

00:36:41

make it work well so that in the

00:36:43

remaining time he can learn to smoke

00:36:47

naturally this impossible

00:36:49

naturally this task does not solve fear does

00:36:53

not and cannot overflow because the

00:36:57

difference can’t happen I can’t

00:37:00

control the speed of work actually that’s why

00:37:02

she’s not a hunter didn’t

00:37:05

dissolve remains and interferes with such a

00:37:12

person can be engaged in being

00:37:14

in charge of less effective than

00:37:16

than we will now return to this

00:37:24

unproductive fear because there

00:37:26

is a very interesting point that

00:37:27

I will touch on strangers, which I

00:37:29

will go into in more detail now, a few more words

00:37:31

about the third type, this is obsessive fear,

00:37:37

its characteristics are that

00:37:39

here the subjective attitude to this

00:37:41

fear is not natural, yes you are in

00:37:45

no way excessive,

00:37:46

but like a capsule yes that is, this is absolutely

00:37:49

[ __ ] Vasya, the case is when

00:37:54

this attack of fear ended for me, most often

00:37:56

obsessive fears they are in the form of a priest when an

00:37:59

attack of obsessive fear in it

00:38:01

seems to me that maybe

00:38:04

my heart is really going to stop now when

00:38:07

the fear has passed, I understand that well, some

00:38:09

kind nonsense, why on earth should my heart

00:38:12

stop now, not great, and to

00:38:14

the camp,

00:38:18

secondly, it’s kind of productive in the

00:38:23

sense that it

00:38:29

kind of results in concrete actions

00:38:32

for a long time, these actions are associated with avoiding

00:38:34

objects of fear, that is, if

00:38:37

my heart is pounding from fear in the subway,

00:38:43

giving by avoiding the subway, I’m actually

00:38:46

doing something or running away from fear, and in this

00:38:50

sense, it’s a product of the species, but

00:38:52

productivity is going sideways because

00:38:54

I’m losing the opportunity, but there are those that began

00:39:00

to interfere, here are the three main types of fear into

00:39:05

which almost all human fears can

00:39:06

be broken down

00:39:09

into which they fell you can

00:39:12

help in different ways and medicinal

00:39:14

psychotherapeutic

00:39:16

somewhere larger with practically somewhere

00:39:19

more medicinal somewhere

00:39:20

took had but I want to return to

00:39:24

this unproductive line with

00:39:27

unproductive fear which is subjectively

00:39:30

felt as excessive we conducted a

00:39:37

study on each of ours and we identified

00:39:40

There’s one interesting pattern here,

00:39:42

which means every time we really

00:39:46

meet that a person

00:39:48

is experiencing more than necessary for some reason and he himself

00:39:51

understands it, but no one from the outside says

00:39:54

what you too and you yourself understand

00:39:56

for now, but

00:39:59

every time at the same time he tries to

00:40:03

realize what he wants to realize cannot

00:40:06

try to

00:40:09

implement what we called empty

00:40:12

efforts, these empty efforts do not come down to

00:40:15

two things, it is either to speed up the work of one’s

00:40:20

own brain for one’s own

00:40:22

psyche, to spin up one’s brain so that it

00:40:25

works faster, quality is like this, as

00:40:27

in the example with an effort of will, and again, an

00:40:36

effort of will to calm down

00:40:39

here both this and that I am another attempt

00:40:45

leads to the fact that fear increases many times

00:40:48

in general one can say that this is

00:40:52

such unproductive fear

00:40:53

and I think that you already understand that

00:40:55

unproductive fear is but very few

00:40:58

people are not familiar with them

00:40:59

extremely extremely eliminated I am

00:41:02

forever

00:41:03

among It’s quite possible

00:41:06

to look for adequate people, and so it

00:41:12

represents, as it were, the sum of

00:41:16

naturally productive fear and

00:41:20

this empty effort, that is, when, with

00:41:23

natural healthy fears, for example

00:41:28

fears of an exam, we begin, through an effort of will, to

00:41:32

unwind our brain activity;

00:41:35

it naturally twists, we begin to be

00:41:38

afraid several times more than already

00:41:42

not only with the strategist, this with the fear of

00:41:44

public speaking with the fear of what

00:41:47

God

00:41:53

what empty effort do you choose, a person

00:41:56

unwinds his brain or extinguishes his

00:42:00

fear, but it probably depends on some

00:42:02

characterological characteristics in

00:42:04

everyone, everything is

00:42:05

often difficult to tie up with something, but for some one thing is

00:42:08

different for others the most interesting

00:42:12

what if you prove to a person the

00:42:14

moment of this fear

00:42:19

that he demands the impossible from himself, it

00:42:25

is impossible that he cannot

00:42:28

force his brain here now to work better than it

00:42:30

will be processed, or that he cannot force

00:42:33

himself to calm down here now,

00:42:35

if you convince him to do this,

00:42:38

clearly show his fear they collapse before our eyes

00:42:43

and this unproductive interfering

00:42:46

excessive fear turns

00:42:50

into naturalness before our eyes, very often this is

00:42:53

right

00:42:56

at the end of a psychotherapeutic conversation, as well as

00:42:58

at the exit, the patient dies and

00:43:02

is released, that’s what’s here, in my

00:43:06

opinion, interesting, maybe for this

00:43:09

for their audience, the audience of the Christian

00:43:14

core look at a person trying to do

00:43:17

these two things to realize empty himself to

00:43:21

unwind his brain brought to calm down,

00:43:24

even the point is not that he is trying to

00:43:27

do something that is impossible because but

00:43:29

in the end one can argue about something that is

00:43:31

possibly impossible, the main thing is that he is

00:43:34

trying to do then by the efforts of his

00:43:36

own will it will be solely through effort,

00:43:39

that is, he here

00:43:41

completely relies solely on

00:43:43

himself and maybe that’s why when he

00:43:53

manages to pull out of a person this

00:43:57

conviction that you can do this,

00:44:02

he often perceives this relief not

00:44:05

just as a psychological relief,

00:44:10

his experience very often if you are a

00:44:13

believer appears when some

00:44:15

kind of religious moment that he allows

00:44:18

himself to come out as a god, but at the same time he

00:44:21

gives himself up, he needed a psychotherapist in

00:44:27

order to take away his faith in himself, that’s

00:44:31

when you are taken away, that’s when we kind of

00:44:34

fall out,

00:44:38

fall out of how to say it because of the beating

00:44:42

one’s own spiritual poverty, then essentially an

00:44:46

attempt to pull out these empty

00:44:48

efforts through them to fall into these

00:44:50

excessive fears, then this will hurt one’s

00:44:53

spiritual poverty, which I mean,

00:44:56

they will knock, but an attempt to do something

00:45:02

yourself without the help of horrors solely with

00:45:05

your exceptional strength, that’s when

00:45:11

you prove you show it is clear that this is

00:45:13

impossible unexpectedly often unexpectedly

00:45:18

for one’s person an attraction appears the

00:45:19

person rests with his hands and feet that I

00:45:22

can show this it is quite difficult

00:45:28

that you can’t give often

00:45:30

40 minutes and an hour maybe this type

00:45:33

struggles with all his might no no no I can

00:45:36

I will force my will my brain calm down,

00:45:40

just how come I’m not the master of my

00:45:41

own soul, it’s my soul, I

00:45:43

can’t control it, how how

00:45:46

how how, when you understand that you can’t

00:45:50

let go, exhale in front of your eyes and

00:45:54

call you pleasant ones,

00:45:59

in general, that’s all I wanted to

00:46:01

tell you here be the surface,

00:46:05

start dmitry

00:46:08

thank you,

00:46:12

but I have a question, you can ask it

00:46:15

very interestingly, calm down,

00:46:21

this is always an empty effort, maybe it’s

00:46:25

just that the specifics of this area are not so familiar to me

00:46:29

as it seems, but

00:46:31

we can

00:46:32

calm down at some moments until either this ability

00:46:36

to calm down is characteristic of productive

00:46:38

terrible possible inability

00:46:41

opportunity that is,

00:46:42

there before the exam about supposedly you

00:46:45

give exhalations to Revan but I won’t learn, but

00:46:48

why worry, but I learned 80

00:46:50

percent there and I hope that 20 is not, well, I wo

00:46:52

n’t fall, you go to her calm cat of

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rings when you or I

00:47:00

I don’t understand something right, now I’ll explain the point is

00:47:02

that here we are talking about calming down through the

00:47:05

efforts of the will, not in general calming down

00:47:10

in general, you can calm down with the help of

00:47:12

what you can calm down with the help of

00:47:16

circumstances, for example, we take the same example from an

00:47:20

exam, for example, this is a student who

00:47:24

knows that he will be kind the examiner,

00:47:27

of course, is resting there,

00:47:31

or will he find out that he has exactly the pouch

00:47:35

that ticket, which is like one of those of which you

00:47:37

either also have a centuries-old question which one is there or

00:47:40

teach if he is the right step

00:47:46

to pray, but simply by an effort of will he

00:47:50

himself is ordered to say calm down and

00:47:53

just take control of your own

00:47:56

selfhood it’s not impossible here,

00:48:01

only this is necessary, that is,

00:48:03

for this we always need some kind of

00:48:05

either circumstances before or help from

00:48:08

above, its help from above expressed in

00:48:12

circumstances, well, Asian, by chance, we

00:48:14

need something else ourselves and it

00:48:28

should be done,

00:48:30

but no, as a rule if these absolutes are

00:48:38

present and there is no fear, then the

00:48:41

only thing you can do is the creator of

00:48:43

the government, if this is possible, well,

00:48:49

let the zone of attention come in and why are they not in the

00:48:52

zone of attention,

00:48:57

but as far as I have seen in practice,

00:49:00

all the same, if calming

00:49:02

circumstances are present, they

00:49:03

come across on purpose, nothing needs to be

00:49:07

done that the fall in palette, but while

00:49:10

the fixation on oneself is happening, the person

00:49:13

really doesn’t see the whole context.

00:49:17

What I mean is this student

00:49:21

who is trying to make his brain

00:49:22

work faster, he doesn’t see the opportunity

00:49:26

to learn 60 percent of Rio well,

00:49:29

he doesn’t see it as an opportunity, he’s so

00:49:33

sure that he he can

00:49:36

swing and learn everything that he forgets,

00:49:40

but

00:49:42

about this opportunity you take away from him this

00:49:47

empty force, he understands that he has no

00:49:50

strength to think faster, and he

00:49:53

agrees, our situation is completely

00:50:03

immediately fear or this is a

00:50:05

feature

00:50:07

and anxiety can be a feature, but in

00:50:11

general anxiety is almost fear the same thing,

00:50:28

just time

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if this has been with him constantly for as long as he

00:50:39

can remember, then this is a character trait, this does not

00:50:42

mean that nothing can be done about it,

00:50:44

because as a rule, in such cases,

00:50:46

fears are just unproductive, and you can

00:50:50

learn to catch yourself in these mouth their

00:50:52

efforts

00:50:54

to take these fears under control just not by

00:50:57

force of will with the help of techniques,

00:51:01

but if the situation that you are

00:51:04

depicting once arose, the person was

00:51:10

different, different, not afraid of anything, and

00:51:13

suddenly some period when he is afraid,

00:51:15

when he began to be afraid of that and another and

00:51:17

3 and 10, then here we need to think about some kind of

00:51:20

biochemical some kind of biochemical

00:51:23

structure, why the option has changed so dramatically,

00:51:31

and since the situation

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I want to say and

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manifestations we have and carries some kind a

00:53:01

very important function,

00:53:04

for example, maybe you know that

00:53:06

people who don’t experience

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bought in particular the fact that they themselves do

00:53:13

n’t feel the difference from the fact that they

00:53:16

cause a series where they flew in, we wo

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n’t understand that it was fear, too, is

00:53:22

needed and maybe we can protect

00:53:31

cases it is useful when you are interested in something that

00:54:03

does not correspond to reality,

00:54:06

the picture reflects how it works,

00:54:17

almost the same, they are included in the

00:54:29

reaction about the numerator with no real

00:54:31

danger and indeed there are several

00:55:22

reasons and indeed during this time a

00:55:36

considerable number of clients every time

00:55:39

they suspect these biochemistry

00:55:41

when or suspicion that something is

00:55:44

happening has this biological

00:55:45

nature and colorful fear, this is important, this is a

00:55:49

painful donation just from the soil and is

00:55:51

very closed and to help,

00:55:54

just turn on the app store

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and the question is the sense of time you get

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worn daily and body this danger is

00:57:16

the corresponding hide and seek in particular

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attack and interestingness always comes

00:58:51

now such stories that fit the

00:58:56

fears attached have

00:58:58

symptoms,

00:58:59

for example, a girl has classic ones such

00:59:05

that in childhood there was some kind of violence,

00:59:09

incest is not something else, not necessarily

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suffering from the crotch letter, don’t

00:59:27

stay in a situation when you

00:59:30

win, then you can break through,

00:59:36

including because this is

00:59:39

nasty when internally it doesn’t end,

00:59:41

they attack me

00:59:43

from the mountains, I don’t let there is danger and they

00:59:47

somehow don’t need to be lost for various

00:59:49

reasons and when I

00:59:52

let go react and don’t eat

00:59:55

some night for magical mechanisms

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are preparing an attack of love for

01:00:03

a lot of legs are also thrown out and with them they are nowhere

01:00:07

further as they creep into me remains in

01:00:09

some sense remains 5 or

01:00:11

survival remains partially including

01:00:13

unconsciously further we are with this load it

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seems maybe even I live and I’m very close,

01:00:19

for example, it

01:00:20

seems to me that a squat is ok at

01:00:23

some point, a man who

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such a thing I can do it is possible

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try now to pay a little

01:01:53

attention to yourself to your feeling of us to

01:01:56

feel in general how to sit in the windows

01:01:59

and how we feel and you can

01:02:03

remember a little about some

01:02:06

situation in which you usually feel

01:02:08

fear, well, a little soon now you don’t need

01:02:11

to dive into some kind of close violence

01:02:14

it will become almost almost can’t

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remember some and fears

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feel body

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difficulty breathing

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now

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now do if I don't know

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if for example you can notice

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01:06:51

now I'm safe and if you managed to

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achieve

01:06:56

not a

01:06:57

state of fear, what is happening in the body and

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when we can now imagine even

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physically the forest had an instrument

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that you can take with me the idol

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turned out to be a

01:08:10

birth for sculpting that you don’t want an example

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of such this is also when a very beautiful

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expression hurry up the therapist to

01:09:27

client of God's hands sounded psychotherapist

01:09:35

helping vows to the public of God resigned himself to

01:09:38

producing fun without finally

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some cases and another one to accept

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regret is not harder than

01:11:31

they are logically than I give these

01:12:17

space forces so that he stands nearby

01:12:26

and waits as the crystal itself

01:12:31

carries me the opportunity to enter you lose

01:12:36

your violent name how this changes my life

01:12:39

I came up with

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as far as I could understand when we were preparing

01:14:35

the speech until the question repeatedly arose

01:14:37

whether fear is a sin and I

01:14:43

turn to the experience of scripture, it’s

01:14:47

somehow difficult for me to accept this

01:14:51

position before fear you are the emotions of fear that

01:14:53

feeling the possibility of the skeptics’ point of view

01:14:55

could be called will give with

01:14:57

fear or cowardice not a passionate

01:15:01

state this is to what fear already leads to

01:15:05

in a person, we discussed such a question,

01:15:07

such an example, what does the king

01:15:13

mean

01:15:15

when Derek gives the forerunner to execution out of

01:15:19

cowardice and sin, what is it that

01:15:23

he chickened out and the fact that after all he gave

01:15:25

this order, it seems to me in the second

01:15:26

probably human cowards surrendered

01:15:30

entailed to this,

01:15:31

but the part that Alexander spoke

01:15:35

at the beginning, I tried to catch the

01:15:38

person comes, here I am such a sinner,

01:15:42

I’m scared, and to get closer to God, this is

01:15:46

similar to the verbatim words of the Apostle Peter, this is

01:15:49

similar to the words of Adam himself, and it’s

01:15:54

really important from the side of my

01:15:56

colleagues,

01:15:57

psychotherapists, psychiatrists, I heard that

01:15:59

we need to accept this is our state, yes,

01:16:02

we are sinful to the point of

01:16:04

sin, we inherit some kind of corruption of

01:16:11

what happened to our nature,

01:16:13

sin

01:16:17

we commit, it somehow

01:16:19

poisons our existence, but meeting

01:16:23

with God is like water

01:16:27

arranging the pieces on a chessboard I am in my place,

01:16:32

beloved children of God, the Lord

01:16:34

constantly testifies to us not only with these quiet and

01:16:38

modest words, do not be afraid, in the Old Testament

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or in the New Testament,

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but also Christ

01:16:44

testifies with his life, and for me,

01:16:46

somehow this Great Lent, which

01:16:48

ended,

01:16:49

surprisingly reflected the words on at the Last

01:16:54

Supper, when Christ washed the feet of the

01:16:55

disciples, it was as if the

01:16:58

whole nature of God was united here and everything that

01:17:01

our gods can say is significant, then

01:17:03

God washes the feet of the disciples and I don’t

01:17:09

even want to expand on

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this thought, I want to somehow stop and

01:17:13

see how God treats you, man

01:17:16

He treats even a sinful person not with

01:17:18

censure, not with condemnation, not with

01:17:23

biblical wrath on the army visualist

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narration, a lot has been written, there are

01:17:27

words and there that God can

01:17:29

even be angry and there may be such words that

01:17:32

fear God, but often these words

01:17:35

are spoken by a person and represent his

01:17:38

interpretation, I will probably be

01:17:42

distracted by this thought a little later and also, rather than say

01:17:44

a few words, but God is infinitely dear to God and

01:17:47

we value man, these words, I hold your

01:17:50

hand, which Isa has, and they are also

01:17:52

pronounced for a reason, they have a

01:17:54

lot of meaning, a lot values that

01:17:57

a person represents for God is a

01:18:00

person who is confused, who

01:18:03

often does not do anything that he wants

01:18:06

to be absolutely taking a nap of what

01:18:08

his nature does, circumstances,

01:18:10

some injuries, some fears, here

01:18:17

he really is, we are pressing and again, somehow it

01:18:20

can be to fears we come

01:18:21

push him heating fear of being a

01:18:24

black sheep not like everyone else

01:18:27

someone gets into such a company but God

01:18:30

loves this person too, that is, man is

01:18:32

God and sins sins it’s not the man himself

01:18:35

it’s on us but it’s something that

01:18:37

comes into the human soul but why you can, with

01:18:39

God's help, what you can fight with, what you

01:18:42

can disagree with, and perhaps this is

01:18:47

my position too, it is kind of

01:18:50

controversial if we can agree to

01:18:52

disagree that maybe a person will

01:18:54

not be able to completely get rid of all

01:18:56

sins and will not succeed in his entire life earthly

01:18:58

life hits the horizon to become absolutely

01:19:01

sinless, a person can realize that

01:19:03

I don’t love Greg, I don’t want him to

01:19:07

own me, to have him dominate

01:19:08

and make some efforts, they know that

01:19:11

these efforts will be guided by God and the

01:19:13

Lord to the extent that a person

01:19:16

will need to introduce a person here.

01:19:23

this is something as I understood Marina Sergeevna,

01:19:26

how I heard her, it’s interesting, and

01:19:30

listen to you, what did you hear, what

01:19:32

was significant for you in his words

01:19:34

regarding fear, before there are the words fear

01:19:37

me,

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but as far as I understand, they appear

01:19:41

clearly in two books of Deuteronomy, Leviticus and

01:19:44

in these books they are often pronounced not by

01:19:47

God himself, but, for example, by Moses, and

01:19:49

judging by the way they are pronounced, it is

01:19:53

still possible to transfer them to interpretation

01:19:56

because Moses is seen in this way for nes it is

01:19:58

essential to convey this aspect;

01:20:01

moreover, there is a lot of such a slightly linguistic

01:20:04

philological excursion into the Bible

01:20:08

words that describe fear are very

01:20:11

different, but when we talk about fear

01:20:12

associated with God, we chose

01:20:15

one single word and verbs and

01:20:17

nouns, the verb

01:20:19

yary and the noun ira, that is, fear

01:20:22

and to be afraid of it, this word is amazing

01:20:26

Lewis, although he was a philologist, I don’t think

01:20:29

he knew Hebrew ancient also has two

01:20:32

meanings and respect awe as if some one is

01:20:36

even delighted enthusiastic

01:20:38

reverently enthusiastic in

01:20:39

horror not and fear and when for example

01:20:44

the Bible says

01:20:46

uses this verb in relation to the

01:20:50

altar on which this

01:20:52

great sacrifice is made to God yes she says

01:20:54

read the altar the book of Leviticus about

01:20:57

Chapter 19, when he talks about God, is

01:20:58

often translated as fear, but here it is difficult

01:21:01

to separate what is meant because

01:21:02

this and fearing disrespect at the same time

01:21:05

meeting with the transcendental, it entails

01:21:08

fear and respect and awe and horror,

01:21:13

like this special experience there are

01:21:16

several and before in the book of Deuteronomy

01:21:21

we all say, be afraid, be afraid, be afraid,

01:21:22

speak 3 times and then he brings up this

01:21:25

prayer,

01:21:26

what has now become any Jew’s

01:21:28

Shema prayers, that is, listen to Israel, the Lord God, the

01:21:30

Lord is the only place you will love them, the

01:21:32

Lord God of that with all your heart and with

01:21:34

all your strength and with all your mind, a

01:21:36

Jew must read are legal twice

01:21:39

a day, as far as I remember this prayer there is

01:21:41

not a word about fear, and but this particular

01:21:44

part was highlighted as important and as

01:21:46

the core

01:21:48

in the book of Leviticus, the words fear me are

01:21:51

taxed in the mouth of God himself, but the most

01:21:54

interesting thing is that they are not taxed for

01:21:55

any serious reasons case,

01:21:57

in the twenty-fifth chapter there are also three

01:21:59

phrases where God seems to speak like where

01:22:02

God’s direct speech: do not offend

01:22:05

your foreigners and fear me, do not

01:22:09

give money on interest and fear me, and

01:22:12

if a Jewish slave comes to you, do not

01:22:17

treat him cruelly, fear me then

01:22:19

there is for some reason fear me

01:22:20

attached to the important but not

01:22:23

so unimportant

01:22:25

commandments in the next chapter sacrifices are discussed

01:22:28

there in chapter 1 which is next to

01:22:33

hvac the blasphemers of God

01:22:36

idolaters are discussed there there is not a word about

01:22:39

fear fear me God doesn’t say that

01:22:41

idolatry is a bad tattoo cast

01:22:44

mine needs to be stoned no matter how we

01:22:46

treat this practice before, but there is no

01:22:49

additive and be afraid of me, I told you, but for some reason, that

01:22:52

is, be afraid

01:22:54

where you don’t don’t treat your

01:22:57

foreigner with cruelty to slaves as if you are

01:23:00

also an interpretation, possibly added

01:23:02

then a scribe, but still, as it were,

01:23:06

bibliography stands on the position that the texts

01:23:08

to him, the Soviet texts and the Septuagint text,

01:23:11

that is, the Jewish Greek texts, the

01:23:13

texts of the Old Testament, did not undergo

01:23:15

significant editing, which could

01:23:17

last for centuries and

01:23:21

changes were carried out;

01:23:26

influences therefore the words

01:23:29

that fear God will add the action

01:23:31

is even directly spoken in the form of direct speech,

01:23:36

but they are lost against the general background of

01:23:40

support that God shows

01:23:43

and is even more not lost against the background of

01:23:45

the service that Christ himself performs,

01:23:48

his whole life is an attempt to support a

01:23:51

person who is afraid. to support a

01:23:54

person who is in fear, this is very

01:23:56

important to see, well, once again I will

01:23:58

refer to the words of the Apostle John

01:24:00

the theologian that then we simply

01:24:02

will not see God and will not recognize the truth in the cross; we will

01:24:04

not see the behavior of Christ; we will not see him; we will

01:24:07

not see this love that fear

01:24:11

consumes and what remains in us is not the fear

01:24:15

that I am such a sinner, so not

01:24:17

accepted, so rejected, as if a

01:24:20

person stigmatizes himself in advance,

01:24:22

I am such a sinner, God will reject me,

01:24:24

no, he will not reject me, he will lovingly accept and

01:24:27

embrace him, and even then we will be

01:24:30

perceived as something that is in my

01:24:33

collaboration with God in entering the

01:24:36

8th with God I’m not a thief you’re a new yes

01:24:42

before this is love I can’t answer it

01:24:44

because I don’t sincerely want to at the same time

01:24:47

I hope marine Sergeevna that at least

01:24:51

partially answered To the question, how did I

01:24:55

understand,

01:24:58

yes please

01:25:02

.

01:25:20

due to the fact that he did some bad

01:25:23

things,

01:25:24

this is how to distribute reagents to

01:25:26

cause serious ones, I don’t

01:25:35

know, it’s hard to say yet, and just like

01:25:37

you, comprehending the material, even I don’t really understand it,

01:25:40

but strangers give it, well, yes, but this is what

01:26:14

fear arises in a person’s heart

01:26:16

when he always sins, you understand,

01:26:25

well, that’s the date of what I was trying to say at the same time,

01:26:48

as if there is still a nickname and shades

01:26:52

that allow you to evaluate,

01:26:54

because there are people who have arose when you

01:26:58

sin, the Lord again left you again, I

01:27:01

accept you, me I

01:27:06

couldn’t accept the loving strand and I couldn’t

01:27:09

accept your love and I couldn’t

01:27:10

justify your trust given to me, so to speak, but it’s

01:27:15

true that we are already falling out of fear,

01:27:18

this fear is something that can be extracted from

01:27:20

someone’s pain and passes on to him

01:27:24

it’s lost, no, and from the point of view of probably

01:27:29

Orthodox counseling, this is an

01:27:31

essential process, it’s important because of fear I

01:27:33

’ll go to hell, I think I hope and believe that

01:27:37

God doesn’t have a tendency to bake anyone into a furnace from

01:27:40

this, it’s not a prison that God created for those

01:27:43

who didn’t live up to some of his here are the

01:27:46

moral laws there,

01:27:50

again, let them meddle with Lewis,

01:27:53

whom I love very much, it seems that 2 rows are

01:27:55

closed from the inside and only those who want to be there will get into the watts;

01:28:09

with God, although this is also a question

01:28:11

that is being discussed, therefore, yes, probably, as you

01:28:15

say, when a person sins, there are

01:28:17

never any types of first fear to fear of

01:28:20

punishment at some stage, as Dorothea says

01:28:23

about you, a truly wise husband and

01:28:25

do not poison the soul and soul useful obtaining 1

01:28:29

probably the most famous ascetic

01:28:31

works a fine before a reward, so we heard

01:28:35

the lady that you are, but here it is dangerous to fall into

01:28:37

some kind of pharisaism that rewards are rewards,

01:28:40

I can somehow receive a reward from the Lord for

01:28:42

something,

01:28:43

and then it outgrows the fear of God, I

01:28:46

really don’t want to offend you, but I know myself,

01:28:48

what am I looking for in this in the process of struggling with

01:28:50

sin,

01:28:51

some kind of sin is not a speck of dust that

01:28:53

lies with me, hope that 1 time oh

01:28:56

nothing, everything is fine, it has sprouted deeply and I

01:28:59

still have to fight and soberly assess my

01:29:02

strength, I still have to fall, but in falling I I want

01:29:05

to get up I want you to go here already fear

01:29:07

begins to somehow transform somehow into

01:29:09

sprouting into something else and it is important that a

01:29:13

person goes through these stages and

01:29:15

gives up the unproductive fear

01:29:18

that how great is the love for God

01:29:21

who is crucified for us,

01:29:23

also another image to which washing the

01:29:26

feet cannot close, but with which it is always

01:29:29

nearby and remember this, this

01:29:31

should support the process of

01:29:34

transition from one fear

01:29:36

to another in that Orthodox people are

01:29:47

especially so anxious to worry about and

01:29:49

I very often

01:29:50

feel very strongly

01:29:53

when they fix the causes of fear in which

01:29:57

they are blooming and you can hire a buzova there is

01:29:59

another floor picture

01:30:43

you need to know what happens,

01:30:49

maybe especially since we are all very

01:30:51

different, but it’s difficult to draw any general

01:30:54

patterns, every person

01:30:55

comes even uses it, it’s a whole new

01:30:58

world for you, it’s cool, probably

01:30:59

every person is what - something unique

01:31:03

and so it is, therefore it is meaningless and there are

01:31:06

many worlds,

01:31:07

each with its own inside the water, in relation to

01:31:11

each of these fears its own degree of

01:31:13

living this or that fear up to that is why

01:31:18

every time we see something of our own,

01:31:23

thank you

01:31:24

sleep at 8, it’s even clear that they

01:31:27

arise

01:31:28

life on the fear of God you in the composition of tomoya

01:31:34

assembly

01:31:35

they said that they want to study not only what I

01:31:37

read in this personal meeting happened

01:31:40

no

01:31:42

you have never been given it looks like it looks like fear

01:31:59

understand here the lighting says there

01:32:01

ten times I say that there must be a sister of

01:32:03

football some kind of fear like you you will see

01:32:11

what should appear in God, this is love, a

01:32:21

grandfather with a gray beard in a toga

01:32:24

with a staff in his hand, a creature sitting on a cloud,

01:32:46

this is good, this is bad, so well, but you yourself, as well

01:32:51

as anyway, this is unconditional

01:33:01

until the end of the session, everything is a little

01:33:06

meeting, meeting, extremely important, you are

01:33:09

right in that she can’t be

01:33:12

called across the floor with the snap of a finger,

01:33:14

lighting when and now everyone has met

01:33:16

God and everyone has met him, no, of course this

01:33:19

happens to every person after the war,

01:33:21

and someone immediately begins a relationship

01:33:24

with God from the meeting, so the meeting is

01:33:28

because again we are all very different, we

01:33:30

all have our own path, in general, we all have our

01:33:33

own,

01:33:34

I can’t say that someone has the same choice of

01:33:36

general things to say, that’s exactly how

01:33:38

the processes are going for me anyway, everything is different,

01:33:41

but it seems to me that before meeting God

01:33:46

it becomes easier until you read carefully

01:33:49

we can learn from the scriptures given from there

01:33:53

by personal example, so the priest in

01:33:57

this regard intends to

01:33:58

speak less, especially directive, but what

01:34:00

you need to do is to acquire the

01:34:02

fear of God, the love of God, show

01:34:04

how it happened in his life and why it

01:34:07

led to it in his life maybe this

01:34:10

will be no circumstances that will one

01:34:13

day lead a person to this

01:34:16

meeting,

01:34:17

it seems that they are so similar, but again,

01:34:21

I’m saying this here more subjectively from

01:34:24

myself, as I see it, it’s

01:34:27

there more often, as if you’ll already

01:34:32

perceive how it’s no longer a spice, you

01:34:36

understand that it

01:34:45

looks like prayers that it should be like an internal

01:34:48

personal request resistance is born in a person

01:34:56

before the invasion of course

01:35:18

of course to comprehend this is very important and

01:35:23

God forbid that the process goes on

01:35:33

separately for him most often say don’t be

01:35:38

afraid

01:35:39

most often there

01:35:41

is love I’m with you love I’m near well

01:35:46

what then such things are new to interpret the

01:35:48

presence of fear in people as well, some kind of

01:35:52

distrust or lack of faith can and is

01:35:55

pushed or wisdom, for example, a

01:36:00

believer should not have a

01:36:03

sound on principle, yes if he trusts

01:36:05

the wolf the river still does not happen to

01:36:07

accept with measurement he has no

01:36:09

unproductive unobtrusive

01:36:11

but just be

01:36:18

yes

01:36:20

biochemistry no one denied

01:36:22

your question is very interesting I somehow

01:36:26

focused my attention more

01:36:28

on the first part of it, little

01:36:34

faith, yes, really the words of Christ

01:36:37

we would read them not only the words I’m just

01:36:40

afraid I

01:36:42

definitely don’t have statistics I have never

01:36:44

asked from the point of view of the Bible the sticks we

01:36:46

are building it no and there is no place la land &

01:36:52

a strong this is all familiar but the means and

01:36:56

even so well done but there are also

01:37:01

examples not only words and they all lead

01:37:03

to one thing and point to one thing but is

01:37:10

it lack of faith? I think tons, well, for

01:37:14

me it looks like it’s just like a

01:37:16

certain stage in you, something is

01:37:18

determined by something personal in a person, it’s

01:37:24

dynamic, I think it will

01:37:26

change, if not, what when the

01:37:28

prerequisite for stalling in this

01:37:38

must be read in the context of a very- I’m

01:37:42

always very wary of throwing

01:37:45

flowers like this, and you know that this text is in

01:37:50

two synoptic evangelists, it is

01:37:52

written differently in each of them, in

01:37:54

one case more sharply in the other less

01:37:56

sharply, plus now we need to turn to the

01:38:01

Greek original, look at the interlinear

01:38:03

translation words, well, yes, but

01:38:12

the process of transferring quotes from Mendoza

01:38:15

seems to me to be carried out in a slightly different format,

01:38:16

it’s very interesting for them,

01:38:27

some questions will remain open

01:38:28

for sure, but again, is it true that the

01:38:33

text was conveyed to us the famous somewhere

01:38:37

you can’t take away bread from children throw it yourself in

01:38:40

Greek there are small dogs

01:38:42

like our balloons, if you put them

01:38:44

in place of the software, the meaning will change greatly

01:38:46

to the point that Christ did not want to offend,

01:38:48

offend, or somehow provoke, but

01:38:51

it looks like I’m a supporter of this

01:38:53

interpretation, what’s the Greek word for

01:38:55

which dogs are science, it was such a

01:38:58

slight irony without no offense to to a person at

01:39:01

that moment so and then why did you

01:39:03

doubt little faith yes well yes the way no I don’t know

01:39:20

[music] I do

01:39:23

n’t know if it will help maybe it’s

01:39:27

possible for everyone how can I say I do

01:39:31

n’t see it so far in my heart it will help

01:39:34

or not just see yes there is one

01:39:36

quote

01:39:37

we can’t deny yes, although we did

01:39:39

n’t go into it deeply, we didn’t analyze it deeply,

01:39:41

but there is another background that before Christ

01:39:47

[music]

01:39:49

no, it doesn’t highlight this lack of faith, yes, how, how, as

01:39:54

something special, your

01:39:56

question is whether you need to repent of lack of faith as

01:39:58

faith is not enough if we don’t

01:40:01

hear it and don’t see it, Christ speaks

01:40:15

emotionally, he doesn’t accuse them of sin, because

01:40:18

each of us has our own understanding

01:40:21

of this passage, we are now in a dialogue with you,

01:40:24

we are sharing, we are trying to understand and you I you I

01:40:26

speak I kind of in my own words so

01:40:29

you hear so I hear so we

01:40:31

have contact or not yes we come to

01:40:34

some common ground visible yes and either this is

01:40:38

normal yes the fact that everyone reads from the

01:40:40

side of their experience and, moreover, from

01:40:42

their preferences, this is reading from the

01:40:45

reader’s side also cannot be denied, but

01:40:47

just

01:40:48

how productively can we

01:40:50

work through these passages with you before

01:40:52

Christ says such words, but for me

01:40:54

they are before then with the volume of love and care,

01:40:57

they, like you, are lost in poison, unfortunately

01:40:59

now I cannot join in your

01:41:01

experiences, even feel him,

01:41:03

get closer to him Yes, for me,

01:41:05

something else is going on now, somehow it

01:41:07

feels different, we don’t see it, but that’s how it will be, but

01:41:10

I’ll try to think about these words,

01:41:12

of course he was

01:41:54

punished, but was he punished,

01:41:57

was this punishment, this also became a

01:42:05

kind of symbol necessary until

01:42:13

you get out you

01:42:15

see, everyone has their own

01:42:20

energy strategy anyway, this is

01:42:21

normal, and plus there, in a

01:42:30

purely human way, he was taught to

01:42:32

imagine, you are sitting, giving the story was

01:42:35

exactly as it is described, you

01:42:37

are sitting doing something, maybe

01:42:38

some kind of handicraft of your own, a modest

01:42:41

appearance of an angel here they won’t let you

01:42:43

jump under it, that’s why the first words are

01:42:47

akin to the fact that when the Lord appears

01:42:50

there, Abram or his descendants are already given,

01:42:52

he says, I am the God of your father, don’t be afraid,

01:42:55

perhaps these are the first meetings, and when

01:42:58

there is no personal experience, there is no response in a

01:43:01

person’s heart to the

01:43:04

Lord you have to say don’t be afraid, then

01:43:06

when God leads the descendants

01:43:09

of Abraham through life as participants in the covenant, of course

01:43:11

they already know God and of course they already

01:43:13

have some kind of basic trust inside,

01:43:14

basic recognition, then there’s no need to

01:43:17

say every time don’t be afraid, and here,

01:43:19

Mother of God, it’s possible the first phenomenon of

01:43:21

this order and of course you need to

01:43:23

calm down as a human being,

01:43:30

Robert encountered when let’s say

01:43:34

there are a person about again obsessive

01:43:37

fears and there was a charge

01:43:39

that he was a believer, it came very much

01:43:45

like in this case, I can’t park on

01:43:49

the side,

01:43:53

so I’m there and I know at least the family with my

01:43:57

nose than to let in own play after

01:44:00

games,

01:44:02

these are the criteria as correctness

01:44:05

and the Volga and serves as help

01:44:08

about a specific case of you, I can describe you

01:44:13

on camera and the story of

01:44:16

the past begins, the priest begins

01:44:20

Lent and tells it looks like there are

01:44:28

no cutlets left for him back, let's put it into account,

01:44:31

let's take it into account

01:44:36

the children were given, dad went to start the

01:44:39

car,

01:44:40

he set off how many times ago and almost hit

01:44:42

his child and realized that in front of you you had a

01:44:45

very strong understanding that this was clearly an

01:44:47

indication from the Lord that the

01:44:50

whole family discovered that we would violate somewhere, that is, in such a

01:44:57

small case, the person is already starting

01:45:09

there to tell everything there is no reason

01:45:12

to attribute pathology to

01:45:18

what you are telling there is nothing that you

01:45:20

said 2 that this pathology it can

01:45:22

be about doubtfulness

01:45:25

we have how similar to the type of

01:45:36

fairy tale to sharply

01:45:52

understand mental disorders

01:45:54

in any case delusional to psychotic they are

01:45:58

never diagnosed according to the content, it is

01:46:02

never possible, based on the content,

01:46:10

but it is

01:46:13

impossible to put

01:46:17

nonsense not only on the basis of the fact that a

01:46:19

person is somehow communicating with God and

01:46:23

even on the basis of the fact that he communicates on

01:46:24

the planet,

01:46:28

this is not a medical criterion, you need to

01:46:32

find out how he feels it, how he

01:46:38

thinks at the same time, how he builds a

01:46:40

system of evidence,

01:46:43

in this system of evidence we

01:46:45

will find a crooked logic of which he does not

01:46:48

notice in which the figurative element is

01:46:50

ecological; in addition, there are always

01:46:54

some other symptoms on the side that are

01:46:56

completely unrelated to delirium, since the topic itself, but

01:46:59

symptoms of the destruction of mental

01:47:01

activity, and so on on the page

01:47:03

they are diagnosed according to the content of the content

01:47:05

in general for psychiatrists thing 10 they almost

01:47:11

never speak

01:47:17

[music]

01:47:18

even though their processes can be

01:47:21

warmed up

01:47:24

through

01:47:27

but most often it is not hormonal no no

01:47:32

traumatic brain injuries Katya can have

01:47:34

this origin most often these are

01:47:37

metabolic disorders the

01:47:39

so-called media and most importantly the brain of

01:47:42

serotonin and norepinephrine, but it

01:47:46

may be a frequent example of such

01:47:49

pathological fears, such

01:47:51

biochemical ones, these are

01:47:54

panic attacks, this fashionable thing is now

01:47:57

being worn by anyone who doesn’t think about themselves,

01:48:01

although in the narrow sense of the word panic

01:48:05

attacks from just the fear that arises like this a

01:48:07

ton of rexics the name was paroxysm, it

01:48:10

means an attack that occurs on its own due to

01:48:13

external causes, for example, a

01:48:18

person is sitting like I’m sitting in front of you now,

01:48:21

and then suddenly I have a sharp feeling of

01:48:27

fear, heartbeat, lack of air, a

01:48:30

cold sweat breaks through me, my

01:48:35

head is spinning, and at the same time I

01:48:39

have an

01:48:40

almost physical feeling that the soul breaks up with

01:48:43

him for

01:48:45

about half an hour this lasts and

01:48:48

goes through an example of a panic attack

01:48:56

meat to

01:49:00

establish the reason that it is naive

01:49:02

biochemical but it is determined either they

01:49:07

just smelled Nikita that many patients have the

01:49:09

same clinic or

01:49:12

what kind of circus with levante would cost according to the

01:49:14

results of the whips you give a drug that

01:49:17

acts on the metabolism of the heart is not necessary, these

01:49:20

protrusions stop, stop

01:49:22

appearing, as far as I know, they have already reached the point

01:49:27

that you can

01:49:30

take a test and die from swear to it, you

01:49:33

just need to measure it not in the blood,

01:49:35

then everything is fine, namely in the part of the

01:49:39

brain, it seems already It would be possible

01:49:41

to do this over so expensively that it does not

01:49:43

make sense because there is enough

01:49:46

clinical data and such an

01:49:48

experiment is enough medicine

01:49:56

in the sense of psychotherapy,

01:50:01

but

01:50:02

I would say that in most

01:50:05

cases panic attacks are sold for

01:50:06

treatment with antidepressants that

01:50:09

act on serotonin metabolism in the overwhelming

01:50:12

case

01:50:13

and very rarely non-resident but it is possible

01:50:17

really don’t treat with drugs

01:50:18

treat chick trophy psychotherapy with

01:50:22

knowledge of the technique already helps here too

01:50:25

and according to international studies the

01:50:30

effectiveness of psychotherapy is approximately

01:50:32

equal to the effectiveness of

01:50:35

drugs although from my own experience I

01:50:41

can’t say that I fell asleep from practical

01:50:45

experience after all drugs are more effective

01:50:47

in terms of why it’s difficult - so

01:50:49

what else do we mean by effectiveness

01:50:51

there a person takes antidepressants and

01:50:54

panic attacks don’t occur at all, everyone

01:50:56

forget about them, in all cases this doesn’t

01:51:02

happen psychotherapy they still arise

01:51:04

on a person, they can easily cope with them,

01:51:08

hang in there, you’ve learned that’s why it’s difficult to

01:51:12

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01:51:14

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Бывает ли страх полезным — для души, тела, отношений с Богом? В каком случае страх становится вредным, когда его можно считать болезнью, и когда — грехом? Надо ли бояться Бога и что говорит об этом Библия? Что такое биологический страх, что — неротический, и что — «совершенный»? И главное — как выстроить правильные отношения со своими страхами? Об этом на встрече будут говорить: — священник Дмитрий Самсонов; — врач-психотерапевт, к.м.н., доцент кафедры психиатрии, психотерапии и психосоматической патологии РУДН; — автор и разработчик терапевтического подхода «Терапия пустого усилия» Антон Маркович Бурно, психолог, преподаватель мастерской Понимающей психотерапии Марина Филоник.

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