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Начало
1:12
Голосование зрителей «Станет ли меньше сахарного диабета, если из магазинов пропадет сахар?»
3:02
План лекции
4:40
Углеводный обмен на минималках
6:22
Сахарный диабет на минималках
8:46
Сахарный диабет тип 1 vs тип 2
11:48
Что запомнить?
14:45
Миф 1: «Если есть много сахара — будет сахарный диабет»
19:27
Миф 2: «Сахарный диабет передается по наследству»
23:01
Миф 3: «Если посадят на инсулин — навсегда» и Миф 4: «Сахарный диабет второго типа — навсегда»
26:40
Миф 5: «Главное в лечении сахарного диабета —контроль уровня глюкозы»
30:31
Выводы
33:07
Результаты голосования зрителей «Станет ли меньше сахарного диабета, если из магазинов пропадет сахар?»
33:30
Дискуссия с «вредным» оппонентом — врачом-эндокринологом Ольгой Деревянко
45:04
Голосование зрителей «Как вы оцениваете “вредность” оппонента (Ольга Деревянко)?»
45:45
Ответы на вопросы зрителей
47:56
Блиц-опрос
1:03:01
Выбор лучшего вопроса
1:03:30
Результаты голосования «Как вы оцениваете “вредность” оппонента (Ольга Деревянко)?»
1:04:28
Анонс доклада: «Биполярное расстройство: неверные представления и рациональные решения»
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may ping 2 top protect us from ourselves,
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what is the threat of ignorance of the history of astronomy
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or paleontology, may we not be able to
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distinguish an exoplanet from a candida gamma or
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deny evolution, it is unlikely that this
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will greatly affect our well-being, but
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medical ignorance can greatly
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shorten the life of those who frivolously
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turned away from science
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when ignorance kills
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Alexander c birkin doctor endocrinologist
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blog author entertaining endocrinology
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[music]
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Alexander hello now I
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invite viewers to
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vote, dear friends,
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please tell me will there be less
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diabetes if sugar is gone from stores,
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that is, either it will be less or
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nothing will change or diabetes and it will
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only get worse, please follow the
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link in the chat and vote, but I have a
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personal question: how many Snickers do I need to eat before
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I get diabetes? Well,
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Alexander, I can say that if you do
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n’t have diabetes yet, then judging by your
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build, we still have a certain a
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supply of chocolates before the onset of diabetes,
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but of course how much can we say based on the external
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data of Snickers until the X hour is left for you?
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We, of course, based on reliable data, we
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cannot, or rather, based on visual data, this
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requires insiders, so to speak, a view from the inside,
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but this is rather the subject of such a more
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personal conversation, we’ll talk separately,
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we’ll talk separately a little later,
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yes, that’s why today we
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will talk more publicly directly about the problem of
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diabetes mellitus. Diabetes mellitus
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often occurs much more often than you
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think. In principle, smart people from
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various specialized organizations
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have given this figure at 10 percent in recent years,
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that is, if you see day 10 in front of
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you. adult people, then one
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of them most likely has diabetes, the figure
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I give exclusively for drinking
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was listed and represented an approximate
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niche and client base for
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endocrinologists and, accordingly, on the Internet with
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such a high prevalence of
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diabetes, it has acquired a large
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number of myths which I think you
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have heard one way or another yes, for example, since
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diabetes is diabetes, then obviously it comes from
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because of sugar that diabetics, so to
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speak, if they live not h-well,
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then at least a long life and should
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eat only buckwheat, how insidious
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doctors only sleep and see, as it were
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transfer patients to insulin needles
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and never use them again so that people do
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n’t get off we, in principle, that after the flood the
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establishment of a diagnosis of diabetes
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mellitus and very sad depressive
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sad, so rather than today let’s
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go through all this myth and figure out
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what is true and what is not so
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we’ll start with so that by the end of
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my speech everyone will be at approximately the same
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level, then we’ll start a little from afar
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or talk in principle about carbohydrate
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metabolism, let’s talk about who this
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diabetes mellitus is, what it comes from, where it comes from,
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and of course we’ll go through the myths that the
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organizers instructed me to do
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to comment on this in view of
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some time limitations and the fact
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that I am, first of all, a modest
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practicing doctor, yes, I want to note
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that we will, one way or
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another, examine theoretical issues quite
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superficially,
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so a disclaimer right away, that is,
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of course, the topic of diabetes is very
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socially significant and very interesting, a
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huge number and doctors and scientists
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are engaged in this and we
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know very deep down there a lot of interesting things
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there, right down to which electrons
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are exchanged between which subunits of which molecules in all these
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processes, this is all very interesting to someone,
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but this will not happen today and therefore
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dear friends, if you wanted to listen, it
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will be about heat shock proteins, the
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process of achromatic
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electron transfer, or where the Krebs cycle
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takes a wrong turn in the development of diabetes,
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this won’t happen today because I was
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giving the lecture, I’m a fairly down-to-earth person,
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everyone at one time
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called me a doctor we are a craftsman
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who does not have time for art, that
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is, science, so I will
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correspond to this, therefore we are speaking at a
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rather primitive level,
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first of all I say yes, for respected
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commentators on the Internet, remember that
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much of what I say I say not
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because I swear an oath there for eternity the
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radiance of pure knowledge about the fact that
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we are limited in time, we have a
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popular science lecture and, in principle,
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not everything that is written in biochemistry textbooks
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has its significance
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in the real world, and so that means if we are
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talking in general about carbohydrate metabolism
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at home, I think everyone knows that when we
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eat a date, in addition to the feeling of satiety,
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the feeling of guilt,
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various substances often enter our body, which
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very roughly very roughly can be divided
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into the well-known macronutrients to
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proteins, fats, carbohydrates, but today we are
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talking more about carbohydrates, that is,
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carbohydrates are basically what they are there are a
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lot of complex molecules, we
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have all seen life-and-death battles
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recently in the news feeds, for example, for
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sucrose, before this there was a complex carbohydrate there with a
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bowl of fructose and glucose, and so
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carbohydrates are in the process of transformation in
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our body, in addition to the one I mentioned, the
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release of guilt also well,
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they are broken down into their fragments, in particular
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to glucose, glucose is accordingly
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absorbed into the bloodstream in the intestines,
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where its content increases and it
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is further distributed throughout the body,
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and then the problem arises that
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most of the cells of our body,
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glucose itself, cannot penetrate
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there and will be closed to them no, they
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don’t pass the control and I need
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help and help comes from the
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pancreas, in principle there are
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a lot of interesting things in it today we are
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globally interested in beta cells
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that produce probably the most
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popular hormone on the Internet, insulin,
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so this very insulin helps
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pass glucose in the clip, most of the
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cells of our body, that is, but it
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promotes the integration of
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special transport proteins into the cell wall,
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which plays such a gate role and
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launches glucose itself in the cell where
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it is already there doing its glucose my
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business, and accordingly the level of
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glucose in the blood decreases beta cells
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this feels it produces less
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insulin and a balance arises until the
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next meal, which sometimes
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occurs more often than it should be. This is
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what it’s worth to think
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about carbohydrate metabolism and remember
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the words before glucose and insulin, and now
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what is diabetes mellitus if you open, in
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principle, there are terrible medical river of
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definition tons the definition is quite
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cumbersome yes, well, every word in it
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has a very deep biological meaning,
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however, let’s not be scared and
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let’s focus on five words that this is a
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group of diseases characterized by
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chronic hyperglycemia hyper a lot
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for chemistry I think you understand that is,
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diabetes is a group of diseases with
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which rack increased
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glucose level elevated glucose level at the
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level of diabetes we consider the indicators
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on an empty stomach more than seven miles and moles per liter and
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not on an empty stomach more than 11 1 the key
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word here is group
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group that is, that there are a lot of
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reasons why a person can have an
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increased glucose level so
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say it’s just that a person has
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diabetes, but this is not an abstraction, that
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is, but it’s the same as saying that there is a
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vehicle waiting for you outside,
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or that it could be a
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helicopter, a car or a cart, which is more
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realistic in our near future,
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so if we are talking about the presence of
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diabetes then this is some abstraction,
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you need to clarify what type of types of diabetes there are
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many, much more than you
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think, much more likely than I
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know, but in general, the well-known
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type 1 diabetes, type 2 diabetes, these are the
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main types, and they also separately
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distinguish gestational diabetes mellitus,
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which occurs during pregnancy
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in most cases ends 100
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pregnancy ear although anything can happen and the
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so-called specific safin types of
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diabetes there are a lot of them we won’t even
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read into them yes I’m just
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showing this so that you can, so to speak, given to
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gain expertise to increase the sense of
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self-importance winter taxes that
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they are like this
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they deal with complex things, but let’s talk globally about the
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first and second types of diabetes, that is, a
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nice picture on the Internet means
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this yellow organ is the
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pancreas, which normally
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produces insulin, which
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contributes to the formation of it, or rather, the
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entry of glucose into the cell, so in
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type 1 diabetes the fundamental point is that
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insulin is not produced
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at all, so no insulin,
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glucose cannot enter the cell, the
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level of glucose in the blood increases,
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diabetes occurs in type 2 diabetes,
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this fundamental point is that the
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living beta cells produce their own insulin,
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but something prevents
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it from working and accordingly, the cells
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also do not respond to insulin, glucose
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cannot enter the cell and the
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level of glucose in the blood increases if, as it were, we
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draw further analogies, so
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once again I simply emphasized that once again
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with the first type there is no insulin at all and the
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fundamental conclusion from this is that,
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accordingly, everything is unfortunately what We
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can help patients in this situation by
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only prescribing insulin, no
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other options, well, so to speak, to
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reduce the glucose level, for the most
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part we don’t have our own insulin in type 2 diabetes,
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but something prevents it from
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working, and the main conclusion from this is that we,
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of course In this situation, we can, as it were,
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add some water to 0 because
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we add insulin and lower the
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glucose level, but we have other options, and
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lately there seem to be
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more and more of them. Svir and type 2 diabetes,
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this is the principle of the fundamental differences between them,
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where do these diabetes come from?
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Well, as and as I already said,
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type 1 diabetes does not produce its own
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insulin, so there are quite
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obvious reasons for this, let’s say if you, that
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is, the patient may not have a
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pancreas there, for example, they
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cut it out there for the
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ontologies of trauma or alcoholism, but in
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general like a bull, in the classic version,
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type 1 diabetes is considered, as it is
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written in medical textbooks, to be an
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indirect disease, that is, its
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own immune system begins to
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perceive its
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own beta cells as something foreign
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and destroys them and, accordingly, insulin
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becomes less and less until
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diabetes develops like this and with any autoimmune
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disease, it is believed that there is a
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certain back inheritance on the
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predisposition to this, which was
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influenced by something, that is, that something
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caused the immune system to fight,
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so I found it on my own beta cells,
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it is believed that most often it is a viral
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infection, but unfortunately to say
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we can’t always know exactly what this is in a particular patient,
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so it’s a fact that to some
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extent, the development of type 1 diabetes is of
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such an ephemeral nature, that is,
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well, that’s how to meet a dinosaur on the street,
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it will either arise or not with
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type 2 diabetes, the reason for it is much
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less exemplary in nature, you can often
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see it and sometimes even touch it,
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that is, in most cases it is hidden in
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adipose tissue, since adipose
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tissue is not just some kind of storage of
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substances or a cosmetic defect, adipose
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tissue is a very active tissue, a huge
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number of all sorts of interesting cells.
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but the main one is for the sake of adding the
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so-called main cells of
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adipose tissue and adipocytes that produce a
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huge amount of the most terrible
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molecules, the reading of which, in principle, is the
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height of oratorical medical
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skill, and even there doctors go to
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special courses to reprimand them,
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I did not go to these courses therefore, we will not
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mention them, but the point is that there are a
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lot of substances through which these
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adipocytes influence absolutely every
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organ, every tissue, every cell of
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our body, in principle, everything, but
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the main thing in our current story is that they
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affect the sensitivity of tissues to
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insulin,
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that is, reducing I call it the
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popular Internet word
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insulin resistance, that is, that the
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body’s own tissue begins to
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take insulin worse than you, to some
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extent, this can last quite a long time
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until the adaptive reserves of our
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body are
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very, very large, but not indefinitely,
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and over time, well, as if everything I’m
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progressing, that is,
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adipose tissue and grass are increasing,
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insulin resistance is progressing, then after it
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builds up, a certain hour x until what happens,
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if you still eat a
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certain amount of Snickers and the
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glucose level begins to rise and
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diabetes develops
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accordingly, so let’s remember
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until that as if for normal absorption
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glucose needs insulin before that diabetes is a
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group of different diseases in which the
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level of glucose is increased, type 1 diabetes
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is associated with a deficiency of insulin against the background most
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often of the destruction of beta cells and fortunately
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this occurs more and type 2 diabetes
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in which insulin is produced,
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but what prevents it and yes and most often
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it is precisely the excess of adipose tissue and
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this accounts for the majority of cases,
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now let’s move on to our legends
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and myths about diabetes mellitus, there are a
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lot of them, a vote was held, so to
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speak, and the voice of the people chose specific
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specific myths, so let’s go through them
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in general I’ll be separate, well,
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if you haven’t specified the condition of the myth that
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it’s divided into type 1 diabetes and
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type 2 diabetes, well, of course, yes, I’m somehow
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a collector, I’m tempted to just don’t
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make a gag, well, in principle, yes,
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we’re in a decent place on a decent forum
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therefore, of course, about everything I’m
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saying, but it has an evidence
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base, I will provide links given to
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fashionable research, the
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presence of links to research is one of the
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criteria for professionalism and a
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popularizer of science and, for example, a doctor, but it’s
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unpleasant
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in the first up to what if there is a lot of sugar
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to what time diabetes mellitus then it comes
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from sugar and, accordingly, to what, as it
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were, all the evil comes from it and, accordingly,
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perhaps diabetes will become less and
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diabetes will no longer exist sugar, well, not sugar,
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of course, it won’t become from a completely different
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disease that has nothing to
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do with carbohydrates but is not the point in general, that’s why, well,
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if you, in principle,
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listened to me carefully, they already know
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what type 1 diabetes is, then I’m there before that
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in principle yes visual and audio answer
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yes that this does not affect the risk of developing type 1 diabetes in
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any way yes it is
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based on autoimmune
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aggression against one’s own beta cells
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if it were caused by sugar date
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humanity would not have survived but in general it would be as
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if there are very meticulous
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there are some works that
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show a relationship, or rather an association of the
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development of type 1 diabetes there with the
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consumption of whole grain products and there
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was some kind of cow's milk in
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certain periods of children's lives, but this is
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there and we are there in general globally has
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nothing to do with the matter it is not
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associated with sugar in type 2 diabetes, as we remember,
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as we remember, it is for the most part associated
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precisely with the dysfunction of adipose tissue, and
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that I become very much more, in principle,
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if you look, yes, here the
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body mass index is more than 30,
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which, in principle, is the border obesity
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tourist diabetes increases absolutely
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linearly, well, as if if we don’t
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deceive anyone, then in general, where
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does body weight come from
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and not from thin air to from
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calories eaten, and again
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enough in a linear amount there in
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general and per 10,000 the excess
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kilocalories eaten account for one and a half to
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two kilograms of body weight, and here we seem to have the
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main question: if the calories are
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gained specifically from soho from sugar
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or from others to macronutrients, that is,
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fats and proteins, then does the risk of
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diabetes vary unconditionally, as it would be very
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logical the question is that a huge number of
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studies have been conducted on this matter, in
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particular, just an example of one of them is
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given, that is, because here in the
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study they took thousands of people and
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assessed for several years how it
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affects what they ate after eating a
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Mediterranean diet, that is, such a
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balanced diet others are
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low-carbohydrate and the third is low-
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fat and in fact how their
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glucose level changed while
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following these diets, as you can see, no matter how much it did
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n’t change in any way, it didn’t
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change, that is, there is a huge
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amount of work that I actually
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confirm and reproduce these
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data in the opera there is a huge number of
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meta-analyses meta-analysis is a special type of
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research where the
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data of many studies are merged there, with the help of a
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certain mathematical analysis,
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extensive conclusions are drawn
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based on these studies, this is the
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same example of one of the largest
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meta-analyses on this topic yes, how
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different diets affect the risk of developing
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diabetes, let's look here at the
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fearless graphics, don't be afraid, let's go
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through them in place, yes, that is, as if
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you see there all sorts of horizontal stripes
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and a vertical stripe, in short, if a
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horizontal line intersects a
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vertical stripe, then
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there are no differences if doesn’t cross, it
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means there are some differences, well, for
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example, yes, something is here, on
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the sign, not there, healthy eating was studied,
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that is, this is what
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doctors usually recommend to tourists,
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balanced there in terms of macronutrients,
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that is, half there are carbohydrates, there are
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30 percent, well, proteins 20 fats there are
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optimal calories less
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processed red meats
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more fruits vegetables well, that is, this is
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what doctors usually recommend in general,
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if you follow this, then the risk of diabetes
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at least the reason for the results of this
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analysis is less, if not, a healthy
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diet, accordingly, that is what is more
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common to all of us, yes then eat something
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we throw for breakfast we run to work there
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and who isn’t birthdays donuts pizza here
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then we work we run home there 1 2
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3 dinners soon and breakfast here and this is
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associated with high risks of
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developing diabetes vegetarian food
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before the diet you give this is special the diet is
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designed for a patient with high
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blood pressure, the Mediterranean diet, in
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which the risk of diabetes is shown to be lower, and
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if you consume foods with a higher
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glycemic index, which would
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normally be more calorie-dense, then the risk of diabetes is
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higher, just like when you skip breakfast, so
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what exactly for the sake of
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Why did I show all this with a
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low-carb diet, and if you
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limit sugar intake, in principle, the
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risks of diabetes are significantly different, and in the
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same meta-analysis, as in fact, and
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in many others, they also assessed
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not individual diets, individual types of
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products, if you look here
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directly given, so to speak,
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carbohydrates there are different types of sugars
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everywhere,
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no significant differences were obtained, that
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is, as if limiting
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sugar consumption did not change much, if there was a
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change from what, then when you
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consumed more
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whole grain fiber products and
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all this why because when,
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in most
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cases, type 2 diabetes is based on dysfunction of
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adipose tissue, respectively,
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insulin resistance of adipose tissue, it doesn’t
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matter where you get 356 calories from
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candy or from more so to speak ppm
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products, everything will still go into it, here’s the
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following myth: Is diabetes
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inherited, yes, that is, is it
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to blame or is it genes? Well, let me
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figure it out, that is, but because here
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you can basically look at the statistics
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and that in general, in the general population,
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type 1 diabetes occurs somewhere around 0 4 percent,
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but if diabetes and If both parents have a mother and a father, then the
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chances are higher, but if both parents have the same
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chances, then the chances are quite high. This, by the way,
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is quite important
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because, from experience, it often
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happens that it’s like in a couple, but
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where there’s a man and a woman for both
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maybe type 1 diabetes, well, because we
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get to know each other where we spend a lot of
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time, that is, at work, at study, in
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hobby groups, in line at the doctors,
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so to speak, the disease is united by a
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new thing, to some extent, it’s possible, it’s
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convenient, you can always shoot, given there
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insulin syringes, a pen or a test
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strip, measure your sugar or something
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like that, but it seems to have
00:20:08
practical significance that, unfortunately,
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the laptop and the risk of diabetes in such a situation are
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slightly higher in children; the same thing with
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brothers and, like, sisters, like
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twins, that is there
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is, of course, some kind of predisposition, well,
00:20:19
that is, we are, in principle, transmitted by a
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certain readiness of the immune system of someone
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to implement this this immune
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aggression against one’s own body,
00:20:27
but unfortunately it is clear to predict what
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this child will have and this one will not,
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we are in what -we can’t, so in
00:20:33
any case, it’s like I already made an
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analogy, how to meet a dinosaur on
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the street, it will either happen or not with
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type 2 diabetes, again, statistical
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data in principle is what we
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can glean from a conversation with a
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person Well, I kind of confirm this, yes, that
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is, if a person has diabetes,
00:20:51
then the chance that his relatives have type 2 diabetes is
00:20:53
higher, and vice versa,
00:20:55
that if they have diabetes, then his
00:20:56
person’s risks are higher, but on the other hand,
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again the same situation there is, if, in
00:21:01
principle, the partner or the person with whom the
00:21:03
person lives has diabetes mellitus
00:21:05
because well, one way or another, here
00:21:07
we impose our everyday life, our
00:21:09
stereotypes, nutrition, eating habits and
00:21:10
so on, but again, many
00:21:12
have encountered this, so what? everyone
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has friends who got married there,
00:21:17
their body weight, usually after that,
00:21:19
land rover pauses in general, but if
00:21:21
we talk in general about the genetics of diabetes, a
00:21:23
problem arises here
00:21:25
because, of course, our eating
00:21:27
behavior yes it is, as it were, different
00:21:30
metabolic indicators the function of beta
00:21:31
cells, the function of adipose tissue, they are
00:21:33
certainly regulated by a huge
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number of genes, a
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huge number of them have been identified, mutations that in
00:21:38
one way or another affect all these
00:21:40
processes, well, there are tens
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of thousands of them, and even millions are on the way,
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but the problem is that the individual
00:21:47
contribution each of these genes, but it is very
00:21:49
doubtful, that is, of course, there are
00:21:50
separate types of diabetes where we know there is a
00:21:52
specific gene that causes a
00:21:54
specific breakdown in a specific protein that
00:21:56
causes a specific type of diabetes,
00:21:58
this happens, it is rare, well, in
00:22:00
principle, and is not considered type 2 diabetes
00:22:02
in diabetes Type 2 is that it kind of
00:22:04
exists in real life, and for example,
00:22:06
these are genetic passports that you
00:22:08
can kind of ask to see and where they
00:22:10
look like some dozens of genes
00:22:12
mutations in which they kind of increase or
00:22:14
decrease the risks by some
00:22:17
thousandths percent, well, it’s possible at home, for the
00:22:19
most part it’s of a
00:22:20
commercial nature, that is, but in
00:22:22
real life it doesn’t seem to play a special role, no matter
00:22:23
what mutations you have here,
00:22:25
well, you’ll still have to eat less
00:22:28
as part of type 2 diabetes, that’s
00:22:31
accordingly, that’s why about Type 2 diabetes is
00:22:33
certainly a trend for
00:22:35
inheritance on predisposition, it
00:22:37
exists, but we are as far as you know, that is, outside of
00:22:39
strict laboratory studies and not
00:22:43
mice or something like that to say
00:22:44
exactly what we pass on,
00:22:46
especially metabolism or
00:22:48
eating behavior, just when to our
00:22:50
relatives Well, it’s quite difficult to say unequivocally
00:22:51
ok, the next myth and yes,
00:22:55
such a fatalistic one, is
00:22:58
insulin therapy forever and is
00:23:00
type 2 diabetes mellitus in particular forever, but
00:23:02
if we talk about the first type of diabetes,
00:23:04
how how, again, we have already said
00:23:06
that it arises due to a deficiency and for
00:23:08
the destruction of beta cells and, unfortunately, by the
00:23:10
time glucose begins to
00:23:12
rise at the level of diabetes, this
00:23:15
means that most of the beta cells have
00:23:16
already been destroyed, that is, there is
00:23:18
nowhere to go and therefore, unfortunately, all we
00:23:20
can do in this situation is
00:23:22
only prescribe a stroke, so yes,
00:23:24
not yet at the moment,
00:23:25
insulin therapy is all that we can
00:23:28
offer patients with type 1
00:23:29
diabetes with type 2 diabetes, let me
00:23:32
introduce for a second the principles of
00:23:34
evidence-based medicine and [ __ ] on
00:23:35
meta-analysis before we try storytelling, I’ll
00:23:37
just show you an example, yes, here you go
00:23:39
I recently had a patient at my appointment
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when, as if don’t scare me, now I’ll
00:23:43
explain everything, she’s been there for many years, over
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ten years, she’s been injecting herself with insulin for
00:23:48
diabetes, and that’s how her story didn’t convince me
00:23:50
that this is type 1 diabetes and
00:23:52
she really needs insulin, so her
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own, well, look at something
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on herself, she injected 28 units of insulin,
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I actually prescribed certain pills in the summer,
00:24:02
let’s do it without and without
00:24:04
product placement, I shaded it, and
00:24:07
accordingly, within a couple of weeks, we’ll be
00:24:09
with her, as it were we completely moved away from
00:24:11
insulin itself and we completely
00:24:13
removed it, and the glucose remained at the same
00:24:16
level,
00:24:17
I see thank you and the glucose remained at the
00:24:20
same level, well, how could we manage to
00:24:23
completely get away from
00:24:25
insulin therapy, well, just imagine how
00:24:26
completely different the quality
00:24:28
of life is, yes that is, that a person injects
00:24:31
himself with insulin every day before measuring his
00:24:33
sugar and just takes a pill, a completely
00:24:35
different quality of life, and in fact,
00:24:36
such stories are quite
00:24:38
common, that is, examples in
00:24:39
outpatient practice, diabetes I insulin, I
00:24:42
more often than not, three are canceled in the second type are
00:24:44
prescribed here and accordingly are they
00:24:47
forever similar to the question of type 2 diabetes
00:24:51
here is also like a minute of storytelling
00:24:53
yes that is yes here the boys
00:24:54
here have a terrible word glycated
00:24:57
hemoglobin don’t be afraid of the people’s thoughts
00:24:59
the word hemoglobin everyone knows before this
00:25:01
what is contained in red blood cells yes here in
00:25:03
red blood cells that look like dried apricots,
00:25:05
yes, this is the one that carries oxygen, so there
00:25:07
is such a trick here that
00:25:09
this hemoglobin is to some
00:25:11
extent associated with glucose in the bloodstream, but the
00:25:13
percentage of its binding
00:25:15
is, well, roughly speaking, clearly
00:25:16
proportional to the glucose content in
00:25:18
blood, that is, this is the degree of
00:25:20
contamination, and that is, glycosylation,
00:25:22
and therefore, these red blood cells live for
00:25:25
about three months, so based on
00:25:27
this percentage of healing and glucose
00:25:29
with hemoglobin, we can indirectly judge the
00:25:31
average glucose level over the last 3
00:25:33
months in a person so here the
00:25:35
patient had an average level of glucose and
00:25:37
from 17 millimoles per liter, that is, as if
00:25:39
he had such obvious diabetes and
00:25:41
of course he was told that here is insulin for you, here are
00:25:43
buckwheat tablets, no sugar,
00:25:45
here you go, this is how you will live, he
00:25:48
was scared insulin but he didn’t start
00:25:50
drinking and didn’t take pills, but he
00:25:52
restructured his eating behavior and accordingly he
00:25:54
called, he lost weight and best at without insulin without
00:25:57
there a pilot without registration without SMS, it’s
00:25:59
like his glucose, as you can see, has already returned
00:26:01
to normal, that is, it’s
00:26:03
no longer diabetic level, that is, we are
00:26:05
essentially water, that it is an illustration of an
00:26:07
example of the fact that diabetes is forever or not,
00:26:09
that is, cabaret it is possible to carry it
00:26:11
because it is based precisely on
00:26:13
insulin resistance against the background, like a tongue, of
00:26:15
excess adipose tissue in the body, and
00:26:17
adipose tissue, but still to some
00:26:19
extent, the indicator varies, it is
00:26:21
again in our power, well, in principle,
00:26:24
because there is already a large number in the world,
00:26:26
give it a consensus, as if
00:26:27
the experts are coming to the conclusion that there
00:26:29
is such a concept of diabetes renicia and it
00:26:31
can be achieved, and this is the
00:26:33
last the myth about which I
00:26:35
wanted to comment today is that the main thing in the
00:26:37
treatment of diabetes mellitus is
00:26:39
glucose level control, well, in principle, it seems
00:26:40
logical that diabetes mellitus and the
00:26:42
actual definition of the disease is that
00:26:44
it is an elevated sugar level, so it
00:26:46
is logical that we need to reduce it, we
00:26:48
again certainly seem to this is
00:26:49
completely logical in the context of
00:26:51
statistical data, well, that is, a huge
00:26:52
number of studies have shown that the
00:26:54
higher the glucose level, the higher the risk of
00:26:57
complications of diabetes and mortality in this
00:26:58
disease, but we still have to
00:27:03
check the evidence-based medicine of the house elf during
00:27:04
controlled studies such
00:27:06
studies, of course, there are particular ones, for
00:27:07
example, in type 1 diabetes, well, that
00:27:10
is, as if
00:27:11
studies were conducted where patients were actually treated for them,
00:27:12
well, as necessary, that
00:27:14
is, they can inject insulin and
00:27:16
hurt others in such a way and no more
00:27:19
intensely we treated them, that is, and tried to
00:27:20
achieve their glucose levels close to
00:27:22
normal and assessed the risks and
00:27:24
complications, and of course, those on the
00:27:26
side button were treated normally, yes, their
00:27:28
risks were lower, this is absolutely
00:27:30
intuitively logical, but as you remember,
00:27:32
type 1 diabetes accounts for a smaller
00:27:34
number cases and, accordingly, it’s
00:27:39
interesting what happens in type 2 diabetes,
00:27:41
and when we transferred a similar
00:27:43
study design to type 2 diabetics,
00:27:45
we got such somewhat counter-
00:27:47
intuitive results because in
00:27:50
studies similar in design, where
00:27:52
some were treated more intensively before others
00:27:54
and others tried to achieve the same results
00:27:56
glucose close to normal, there was no special
00:27:58
difference, yes, that is, these
00:28:00
mortality curves as a general and
00:28:03
heart disease, they practically
00:28:05
did not differ, but there are separate
00:28:07
studies in which, on the contrary,
00:28:08
patients who were treated more intensively
00:28:12
began to die more often and such studies
00:28:14
seemed to be closed yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
00:28:16
urgently for ethical reasons
00:28:17
so well, how would we, in principle,
00:28:19
almost all the works confirm this up to what
00:28:21
type 2 diabetics certainly have, but there is a
00:28:23
very high level of glucose and the
00:28:25
mortality rate increases if, as it were,
00:28:27
low from of course not very good
00:28:28
because we are re-treating them, but
00:28:30
if glucose is, as it were, moderately increased,
00:28:32
and then we will lower simple ones, but we do not
00:28:35
greatly influence the outcomes of our
00:28:37
patients, which is why, as it were,
00:28:40
other fundamental
00:28:43
drugs for the treatment of type 2 diabetes are already being developed.
00:28:44
not only reduce
00:28:46
glucose levels, but they also have other effects that
00:28:48
affect the outcomes, and also, well, how does this
00:28:51
play out? Well, if, in principle, the
00:28:53
main question that
00:28:54
arises here is how to improve the outcome of
00:28:56
patients with type 2 diabetes, well, let me remind you
00:28:58
that first of all, they die from
00:29:00
cardiovascular diseases,
00:29:02
respectively, here is your control of
00:29:03
other factors that increase the risk of
00:29:06
these very diseases which, as it is
00:29:08
logical to assume, are also
00:29:09
associated with excess body weight, first of all,
00:29:12
this is the level of pressure and
00:29:14
cholesterol level, which is the garden,
00:29:16
respectively, and here, when controlling both
00:29:19
high blood pressure and and by increasing it and
00:29:21
elevated cholesterol levels, the
00:29:22
mortality rate in diabetes is like a bull's head in a
00:29:24
large number of studies, it
00:29:26
has clearly been shown that it
00:29:27
decreases significantly, so it cannot be
00:29:29
said that of course with in the
00:29:31
second type of diabetes there is no need to
00:29:33
control the glucose level of course it is
00:29:35
necessary but simply but if not more but no
00:29:37
less important is the control of other
00:29:39
risk factors, first of all, this is the
00:29:40
level of blood pressure and cholesterol level,
00:29:42
we again have this type of experience that, at
00:29:44
least for the time being, on an outpatient basis,
00:29:47
I prescribe medications for blood pressure and cholesterol more
00:29:49
often in Aktobe for the second
00:29:51
type than insulin, for example, dense
00:29:53
in principle, because all this has long been
00:29:55
off the table routine for
00:29:57
modern endocrinologists, well,
00:29:59
it’s all reflected in the
00:30:01
outcomes so far in civilized countries, that
00:30:03
is, if you look at the approximate
00:30:05
trend of what patients with
00:30:06
type 2 diabetes die from, you need fresh ones data
00:30:08
from the UK, for example, there, in
00:30:11
principle, the trend is towards a
00:30:13
decrease in
00:30:15
death from cardiovascular
00:30:17
diseases and against the background it increases
00:30:19
until the death rate from oncology,
00:30:21
since everyone will have oncology if
00:30:23
they live to see it, and so we give a chance to
00:30:26
our patients with diabetes mellitus
00:30:28
type 2 in Denmark, live accordingly,
00:30:31
plus or minus the staples, the whole information
00:30:32
part, so let's
00:30:34
go through the myths of Das once again, as if the first one is
00:30:36
that if you eat a lot of sugar, will there be
00:30:37
diabetes with the first type no, this is not so
00:30:40
with the second type, well, formally yes but as
00:30:42
if diabetes is not just sugar, you can
00:30:45
eat food and all other
00:30:47
macronutrients, but in relation to
00:30:49
whether it is inherited in general
00:30:51
and to whom there is this tendency to
00:30:53
inherit, but exactly its
00:30:55
significance is, as it were, all very
00:30:57
conditional because with the first type, diabetes,
00:30:59
well, roughly speaking, it either
00:31:00
occurs or not, but with the second type, the
00:31:02
ladies pass it on to this, but
00:31:05
essentially all that we the patient can do, knowing it, is to
00:31:07
kind of control it, but here’s
00:31:09
your lifestyle and your body weight and you
00:31:11
need control regardless of
00:31:13
whether you have a hereditary history of
00:31:15
diabetes or not regarding the fact that
00:31:18
insulin therapy is permanent in the first type,
00:31:19
unfortunately, in the second type, in
00:31:22
many cases there is no, there are individual
00:31:24
situations, for example, in patients
00:31:26
whose kidneys do not work or
00:31:28
there are very severe concomitant the situation there and
00:31:30
of course we don’t have many
00:31:31
options, but for the vast majority of
00:31:34
patients we have options, part of them is
00:31:36
becoming more and more type 2 diabetes
00:31:38
forever, that is, this is a
00:31:40
fundamental point, and that it is
00:31:42
possible to achieve remission in the
00:31:44
vast majority of patients and in fact
00:31:46
In fact, very few patients seem to hear
00:31:48
this from doctors and, accordingly, do
00:31:50
not receive the proper motivation to
00:31:51
change their lifestyle. Well, the
00:31:54
main thing in the treatment of diabetes mellitus is
00:31:56
only monitoring glucose levels in
00:31:58
patients with the first type, since
00:31:59
they actually do not have insulin and the main thing the
00:32:01
same problem that arises for them is this
00:32:03
increased level of glucose, rather yes,
00:32:04
although they still have until because they still
00:32:07
live no longer like they did
00:32:09
a hundred years ago, much longer over time,
00:32:12
as it were, the need also arises to
00:32:14
control other risk factors for the
00:32:15
development of cardiovascular diseases
00:32:17
in the first place the turn of blood pressure
00:32:19
on elevated and elevated
00:32:21
cholesterol levels, and this is clearly applicable to
00:32:24
patients with type 2 diabetes in which,
00:32:26
well, most likely, well, that is, not if not
00:32:29
more, then
00:32:31
other risk factors play the same importance thousands of times for an
00:32:34
increased level of pressure on and
00:32:35
cholesterol, well, and accordingly, there are,
00:32:38
of course, a huge number of other
00:32:39
myths about which we and we haven’t
00:32:41
told, well, maybe
00:32:43
we’ll talk a lot today, but my answer to
00:32:45
most of them is yes, don’t consider it a
00:32:46
fudge of names to us that we will still have to eat less
00:32:51
This is where my informational part of the ladies
00:32:55
ends,
00:32:57
now let’s see the voting results,
00:33:00
how our viewers voted, and as
00:33:03
we can see, the majority and it was leaked that nothing
00:33:06
will change in vain, I gave a lecture and it seems like everyone
00:33:09
knows everything, well, probably you
00:33:12
had something else meaningful, but
00:33:14
I’m afraid what now give and cool
00:33:17
memes tails memes but now they wo
00:33:20
n’t help you because are
00:33:24
you ready to answer for your words on
00:33:28
stage harmful opponent Olga Derevianko
00:33:33
Candidate of Medical Sciences chief
00:33:35
endocrinologist of a network of clinics their names
00:33:37
head of the department of endocrinology and
00:33:39
metabolic disorders you have ten
00:33:41
minutes,
00:33:43
thank you Alexander Ivanovich there were a lot of
00:33:46
simplifications, of course, you made
00:33:49
a disclaimer, but there are things that
00:33:52
hurt my endocrinological suffocation to the point of
00:33:54
impossibility, let's get back to this,
00:33:57
first of all, we are at the event, scientists
00:33:59
against myths, and speaking about diabetes mellitus,
00:34:03
you mentioned that most often and most of
00:34:05
all we have a cohort of patients with
00:34:08
type 2 diabetes mellitus and from the very beginning speaking about the
00:34:11
criteria, the blood sugar level is all
00:34:14
millimoles per liter and higher, but
00:34:16
type 2 diabetes mellitus does not occur
00:34:19
at lightning speed and it is usually preceded by
00:34:22
several years of hyperglycemia, that is, an
00:34:25
increase in blood sugar levels to
00:34:26
certain limits and an important myth that
00:34:30
many people think that diabetes mellitus is
00:34:32
necessarily accompanied by
00:34:34
certain complaints, yes, this thirst,
00:34:37
urination at night is so debilitating, and
00:34:40
I would like to draw the attention of our
00:34:42
listeners to the fact that firstly,
00:34:45
type 2 diabetes mellitus begins to develop
00:34:48
long before the moment
00:34:50
blood sugar begins to rise to more than 7
00:34:53
millimoles per liter and the norm is the
00:34:55
sugar level in the region according to the
00:34:58
World Health Organization
00:34:59
clinical recommendations yes yes 6 and
00:35:02
millimoles inclusive and in some
00:35:04
countries even lower values ​​up to
00:35:06
five or six even then doctors recommend
00:35:09
examination for hidden
00:35:11
diabetes for impaired
00:35:13
tolerance to glucose,
00:35:15
that is, in diabetic conditions,
00:35:17
why did this excite me so much, yes,
00:35:19
because with diabetes and such a situation
00:35:21
when we can return the blood sugar level completely to
00:35:24
normal by giving the normal limits to the blood sugar level
00:35:27
and really save
00:35:29
the patient from the diagnosis of
00:35:31
type 2 diabetes mellitus, as for the myths that type
00:35:33
2 diabetes mellitus like forever and
00:35:36
this is still a myth, but we will talk about the fact
00:35:39
that the diagnosis remains and perhaps
00:35:41
impurities, but again not for all
00:35:44
patients, and
00:35:45
here I would like to move on to the second
00:35:48
important point, this is heredity for
00:35:50
patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus,
00:35:53
you made a lot of
00:35:54
such emphasis on the fact that this is still a
00:35:57
way of life, this is the
00:35:58
body mass index, have you encountered
00:36:01
patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus in your practice
00:36:04
without excess body weight,
00:36:06
thank you very much Olga Sergeevna, well,
00:36:08
your previous comment went through
00:36:11
and I will also answer, that is, I
00:36:13
certainly agree that as if an important
00:36:14
problem is both latent forms of
00:36:15
diabetes and 3rd lunch, but I indirectly
00:36:18
mentioned this there, saying that the
00:36:20
adaptive reserves of our body are
00:36:21
quite extensive in China and a
00:36:24
person can walk for a very long time with such a
00:36:27
subclinical to immortal condition,
00:36:29
and certainly yes in this the big
00:36:30
problem is that sugars don’t hurt, that is, by
00:36:33
the time all
00:36:36
these symptoms already appear about which they write on
00:36:37
the Internet, that’s what Olga
00:36:39
Sergeevna said, well, of course, this is already with
00:36:40
severe hyperglycemia, so your
00:36:44
second question in relation to the fact that
00:36:46
how have I met on certainly
00:36:48
met certainly met not only on
00:36:50
the side of course there are cases of type 2 diabetes
00:36:52
without the premium of obesity
00:36:54
because we classify it around it here the
00:36:57
body mass index is more than 30 but on the other
00:36:59
hand well it’s just like there well like of
00:37:01
course I am that’s all, take cumin,
00:37:05
there are other components that affect the
00:37:07
decrease in the function of beta cells, perhaps
00:37:09
before it is there and something else, but the point is that
00:37:12
from a practical point
00:37:13
of view, everything that we can influence, well, one
00:37:15
way or another it namely the
00:37:17
patient’s diet, lifestyle, and everything
00:37:19
else, in fact, a couple of weeks
00:37:20
ago, a study was published
00:37:22
that even in patients
00:37:24
who are not obese, that is, they
00:37:25
just have excess body weight, their
00:37:28
body weight still decreased. rice,
00:37:29
well, that is, contributed to Rene's environment in
00:37:31
achieving diabetes, one cannot help but say
00:37:34
that there is virgin soil resistance in
00:37:36
people with an ideal body mass index in
00:37:38
athletes in people who do not have
00:37:41
any deviations according to the strictest
00:37:43
bio impedance and they, unfortunately, have a
00:37:45
diagnosis of diabetes mellitus of the second like,
00:37:47
despite the fact that they eat like you and I
00:37:51
never dreamed of, and by all rights,
00:37:53
something in between even the
00:37:54
Mediterranean and Harvard plates,
00:37:57
that is, this is absolutely not a hundred percent of
00:37:59
cases, far from it, this is an excellent motivation
00:38:03
for our patients, but I wouldn’t want
00:38:05
to create the illusion that this is
00:38:08
possible for everyone because such
00:38:10
patients are often very motivated
00:38:12
who do not have excess and, indeed, an
00:38:14
increased body mass index, they are very
00:38:16
motivated and they try very hard to
00:38:18
do everything regarding lifestyle and
00:38:20
say that remission is possible
00:38:23
for everyone if we we follow
00:38:24
certain recommendations, but this is
00:38:27
deliberately misleading, I
00:38:28
would like to differentiate these points to
00:38:30
say that of course for people with
00:38:32
mobile obesity with a body mass index
00:38:34
in general greater than thirty up to a
00:38:36
diagnosis of obesity,
00:38:38
glycemic control will certainly improve if
00:38:40
weight loss occurs and better
00:38:43
or pi to the gram and all this is true, but
00:38:44
unfortunately here simplifications in the pathogenesis of
00:38:48
type 2 diabetes mellitus can simply
00:38:50
mislead a large number of
00:38:52
our patients and lead them to
00:38:54
eating disorders; there is no
00:38:56
completely different plan; I myself
00:38:58
certainly agree that, well, so to speak,
00:39:01
absolutization everything in medicine is, of
00:39:03
course, unacceptable, but I didn’t say that
00:39:05
every type 2 diabetic can
00:39:07
achieve mission 3, yes, if you limit the
00:39:09
consumption of sweets, that is, but it
00:39:10
can simply be achieved, they don’t
00:39:12
need to say about this, well, as if
00:39:14
because I, well, actually In fact, I very
00:39:16
often come across in practice that the very
00:39:18
idea that, again, diabetes could
00:39:20
go into remission and not require insulin
00:39:22
or drug therapy, as if
00:39:24
patients don’t know this and in fact,
00:39:26
many doctors,
00:39:28
not endocrinologists, don’t know this yes, yes, even
00:39:29
endocrinologists sometimes persist in this, that
00:39:32
is, at stake, as it were, that’s why the very
00:39:33
idea that something can be done about this,
00:39:35
how could he and and
00:39:37
this can be such a powerful
00:39:39
motivating factor, as if it should be
00:39:41
conveyed,
00:39:42
they persist in relation to what we
00:39:45
cannot say is that
00:39:47
type 2 diabetes is forever, it is a myth, in this
00:39:49
case it is forever, but it may be a
00:39:51
mission and the person should be
00:39:53
informed that he is at extremely
00:39:54
high risk upon the return of this
00:39:57
disease, yes, because hyperglycemia
00:39:59
will progress we will see
00:40:01
an improvement in 1 year 2 but you and I know very well
00:40:04
that the function of beta cells
00:40:05
still decreases over the years and sooner
00:40:08
or later, unfortunately, no matter how our
00:40:11
patient follows all the recommendations, the
00:40:14
likelihood that hyperglycemia and
00:40:16
high blood sugar will return and
00:40:18
we will need to intensify
00:40:20
our intervention, it is great, so in general I am a
00:40:23
very big optimist in life, and
00:40:24
today my role is a harmful opponent and
00:40:27
I want to emphasize this for
00:40:29
people, this is such a socially significant
00:40:31
disease, type 2 diabetes,
00:40:33
probably each of us has, well at
00:40:35
least relatives with this disease,
00:40:37
therefore, until remission is achieved, it is possible,
00:40:39
but to say that we remove this diagnosis and
00:40:42
forget about it forever, remission is
00:40:44
an emission that requires constant
00:40:45
monitoring, knowledge of risk factors, the
00:40:48
frequency of these observations of certain
00:40:50
examinations, and
00:40:52
well, what we told you is not right, but
00:40:55
can you then counter question Olga
00:40:57
Sergey no no I completely agree with you
00:40:58
and I said about this that it is
00:41:00
possible to achieve remission of the
00:41:02
disease yes that is unconditional if a
00:41:04
person is already well it seems to me that
00:41:06
this is a myth that diabetes is forever
00:41:08
and and it you came across the site that this is a myth,
00:41:10
I would not want this to be imprinted
00:41:13
in the heads of our viewers, that it
00:41:15
always interferes, but the onset of
00:41:16
long-term emission is possible, the question of how
00:41:19
persistent we are here can probably be discussed for a
00:41:22
long time, but it definitely requires
00:41:24
observation of such patients throughout their
00:41:25
lives, and quite regular
00:41:28
and returning to the fact that there are some
00:41:30
clinical manifestations here, too, we
00:41:32
cannot do this operation, of course, I
00:41:34
agree with you in Kobi and on the final
00:41:36
slide, as if where I summed up and rhizomes,
00:41:38
I was told that it can be
00:41:39
achieved rimi Sep, that is, of course,
00:41:41
if remission is an absence, or rather,
00:41:44
it is maintaining the proper level of glucose
00:41:46
without insulin and
00:41:48
medications no, I wanted you if I can
00:41:52
meet him then the question is no, I
00:41:53
certainly agree that if the fact itself and
00:41:55
deduced where type 2 diabetes arose in a person
00:41:58
and how would he achieve remixed is an
00:42:00
absolutely different situation
00:42:02
compared to a person who has never
00:42:03
had diabetes, because the system
00:42:05
was already compromised, so to speak,
00:42:07
and so in such a
00:42:09
situation, for example, we write a
00:42:11
diagnosis that diabetes is in remission, and if the
00:42:13
patient had more, it turns out that
00:42:15
diabetes mellitus with this patient
00:42:16
forever mine can be imprisoned I will ask
00:42:20
a question accordingly no no I’m just
00:42:21
interested in your position that is, but if the
00:42:23
patient was obese and he lost weight you
00:42:25
leave in the diagnosis obesity in the
00:42:28
anamnesis 1 zenith but we have
00:42:30
certain rules that relate to
00:42:32
diabetes mellitus like diffuse
00:42:33
toxic goiter, yes, most
00:42:35
patients will leave this in the diagnosis,
00:42:38
we also understand that antibodies to the TSH receptor
00:42:40
will persist and the likelihood that, for
00:42:43
example, the occurrence of endocrine
00:42:44
ophthalmopathy in such a patient during his
00:42:46
life is, although less after
00:42:48
radical treatment, these are different things,
00:42:50
what we are talking about we are talking in the context of
00:42:52
Sandra’s disease and type 2 diabetes
00:42:54
no, but I mean that,
00:42:56
well, how can we talk about a
00:42:57
history of the army, and a history of gastritis
00:43:00
that was treated, no, but I don’t, I
00:43:03
mean here that we are formally speaking
00:43:04
here if a person was obese and
00:43:07
lost weight, that is, obesity, the diagnosis of
00:43:10
obesity is made on the basis of
00:43:12
body mass index, the diagnosis of diabetes
00:43:13
is made on the basis of a glucose level of
00:43:15
more than seven millimoles per liter or before the
00:43:18
hemoglobin level or a random
00:43:19
determination, yes, but if there is, it turns out
00:43:21
we have a hint and I have there was another
00:43:23
important question
00:43:25
answering the question that the diagnosis of obesity,
00:43:27
of course, yes, we remove it as soon as the
00:43:29
body mass index is normalized for
00:43:31
type 2 diabetes mellitus, as well as
00:43:32
diffuse toxic goiter, we leave the diagnosis
00:43:33
precisely because we must
00:43:35
pay attention to both the patient himself
00:43:37
and colleagues who will see our
00:43:39
conclusions are that this is a
00:43:41
high-risk patient whom we must
00:43:43
definitely follow up with, please one
00:43:45
short question,
00:43:49
how do you explain you showed that
00:43:51
skipping breakfast increases the likelihood of
00:43:54
type 2 diabetes mellitus, what do you
00:43:57
think, or in terms of obesity, what was the slide
00:43:59
that this directly fell into also such a scale
00:44:03
that this is such a serious
00:44:05
risk factor, as you yourself explain it,
00:44:07
do you think so in fact, it’s more magnificent,
00:44:09
I would again like to
00:44:10
mislead our viewers, let’s
00:44:13
discuss this briefly, well, if very briefly,
00:44:15
I think that of course there is no deep
00:44:17
biological meaning in skipping
00:44:19
breakfast that it increases the risk of
00:44:20
diabetes is not necessary, as it were, and a special
00:44:22
breakfast in the name of
00:44:25
fighting diabetes is not necessary until 0 and I
00:44:27
think that rather this is more of
00:44:29
such organizational issues that most
00:44:30
likely those who are people who skip
00:44:32
breakfast are in general less organized
00:44:34
approach to their eating behavior
00:44:37
and simply eat more in each other
00:44:39
at other times of the day, thank you very much, I
00:44:42
would not like it, but it’s just that the
00:44:43
additional meal of food does not get used to it at first,
00:44:45
and we seem to recommend
00:44:47
introducing an extra meal in order to
00:44:50
improve diabetes control
00:44:52
thank you very much thank you viewers I
00:44:55
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00:45:00
and vote vote how do you
00:45:02
assess the harmfulness of Olga was she a
00:45:05
good friend Alexander may be an
00:45:07
interesting conversationalist a
00:45:08
master of tricky questions or maybe a
00:45:10
real thunderstorm
00:45:12
vote there should be another option that
00:45:14
everything at once and lost, well, it won’t work right away,
00:45:17
we’ll see because
00:45:19
today at the end of the day we will choose the
00:45:20
most harmful opponent
00:45:23
by voting and only at the end we will find out not
00:45:24
from the results we will know now, but then
00:45:26
we will evaluate other opponents and they
00:45:28
may be more harmful than you have
00:45:31
here thank you now for gifts from
00:45:33
the forum duck against myths friends
00:45:35
vote and we move on to questions from the
00:45:38
audience and we have a question that is
00:45:43
visually asked using video
00:45:45
please turn on
00:45:53
hello my name is Sergey and I have a
00:45:56
question for Lexan today the wide sale
00:45:59
has already spread very inexpensive
00:46:01
commercial genetic tests that
00:46:04
can tell a lot about a person,
00:46:06
from origin to the
00:46:10
location of a serious disease,
00:46:11
including diabetes, how much to trust the
00:46:14
interpretation of the results that are
00:46:16
published in these reports and whether
00:46:19
these reports in this form will be useful to
00:46:21
non-genetic practitioners whom
00:46:24
the patient is seeking with our complaints, well,
00:46:29
we answer
00:46:32
Sergei’s questions, of course, such genetic
00:46:34
passports are now extremely
00:46:37
common, and perhaps, based on
00:46:39
their results, you can
00:46:40
find out whether you had
00:46:41
relatives and Egyptians there, or whether there were
00:46:43
followers of the penguin htb, but in
00:46:45
relation to exactly how real
00:46:46
practical medicine and type 2 diabetes
00:46:48
in particular, well, I even showed us an
00:46:51
example of such genetic tests,
00:46:54
well, they have a special and direct clinical
00:46:56
meaning at the moment, but in
00:46:58
real practice this does not have any
00:46:59
more such a commercial component, I
00:47:00
repeat, there are certain types of diabetes for
00:47:03
which individual ones are known Here genes
00:47:05
and
00:47:06
here and there it plays a role, but this is a very
00:47:09
rare story, that is, well, I’m
00:47:10
not usually included in those genetic
00:47:12
passports, so for the most part it doesn’t
00:47:14
make sense and is of such a commercial
00:47:15
nature, well, or inquisitive, thanks
00:47:18
Alexander because you agreed to the
00:47:21
blitz, now we will have such a
00:47:23
story for three minutes, I will
00:47:25
ask you questions and ask you to
00:47:27
answer as succinctly as possible, our
00:47:28
previous record was full of 13 minutes,
00:47:31
let's see, let's start with
00:47:33
questions, internet questions in
00:47:36
three minutes, that is, in one word,
00:47:39
if this will be exhaustive of the feature
00:47:42
then the expenses can be gestures dance as you
00:47:46
wish in the form of persons to be I just
00:47:48
went
00:47:50
a question from Alina Glushko can diabetes
00:47:53
appear and disappear during the course of life
00:47:55
for example during the first pregnancy a glucose
00:47:57
tolerance test showed a positive
00:47:58
result increased glucose level with
00:48:00
2 negative yes of course it can well that
00:48:04
is, this is in the context of approximately what
00:48:05
we were talking about, that is, that all the same, at the
00:48:07
basis of both type 2 diabetes and
00:48:10
gestational diabetes, although there are other
00:48:12
factors, the game or for lies
00:48:14
insulin resistance,
00:48:15
insulin resistance is proportional to the
00:48:17
content of adipose tissue in the body and,
00:48:18
accordingly, as it were if, well, roughly
00:48:21
speaking, you vary, that is, you and
00:48:22
each person has a nukaba conditional
00:48:24
here on their threshold value when
00:48:25
reaching a certain body weight,
00:48:28
can diabetes occur and,
00:48:30
accordingly, if how to reduce it,
00:48:31
who can look at
00:48:33
glucose levels at the level of diabetes leave so
00:48:35
there is of course possible to flash a romance cable
00:48:38
what happens to the glucose level
00:48:39
in T1 diabetes on the strength heroes koch on
00:48:43
the Internet there is a lot of conflicting
00:48:45
information oh well, in general, well, not that within the
00:48:47
framework of, in principle, the strength
00:48:49
training cabin, glucose most often
00:48:52
increases, but how would it be everything varies,
00:48:53
there was one interesting
00:48:56
individual study on patients
00:48:58
with type 1 diabetes, how strength
00:49:00
training affected their glucose levels
00:49:02
and during three workouts during the
00:49:05
day, there seemed to be something that if
00:49:07
training is carried out there in the morning, then
00:49:09
this is Sparta and then an
00:49:12
increased level of glucose occurs more often, if in the
00:49:14
second half of the day, then hypoglycemia occurs more often,
00:49:15
so the authors there
00:49:17
recommend that if patients have a
00:49:18
tendency to hypoglycemia, then it is better to do it
00:49:20
in the morning and vice versa, as if in the second
00:49:22
half of the day, but this is all very,
00:49:24
very empirical a question is being picked up
00:49:27
from Ekaterina Samoilova, if there is harm
00:49:30
from synthetic sweeteners, when will
00:49:34
low-calorie sweets and baked goods become available to the masses? Well,
00:49:35
to some extent, Tanya is available,
00:49:38
yes, in various health
00:49:41
food stores there is no, but these artificial
00:49:43
sweeteners mikhael globally are
00:49:45
quite often frightening that they don’t
00:49:46
have all sorts of toxic effects there, that
00:49:48
they have a bad effect on the micro on the
00:49:50
intestinal microbiota and all that, that
00:49:52
is, well, to some extent, this is possible
00:49:54
and so we under their potential benefits for
00:49:55
reducing body weight, it outweighs the risks,
00:49:58
so it’s like, well if you really
00:50:00
can’t live without it, but you can switch to it,
00:50:01
that is, well, laser will be
00:50:04
healthier than regular cola and you have a
00:50:06
large number of studies
00:50:07
confirming that switching to
00:50:09
artificial sweeteners improves the
00:50:11
situation with body weight and diabetes with
00:50:13
other parameters Anna Petrakova
00:50:16
do we need sweets as such or can we
00:50:18
wean ourselves off them without harm to
00:50:20
health, well, just like a biological need
00:50:23
other than a psychological one, of course it’s
00:50:25
not special, therefore, that is, but if a
00:50:27
person simply doesn’t eat sweets, but
00:50:29
he definitely doesn’t will die therefore, that if
00:50:32
you can afford it, it
00:50:35
will be very good; for example, I
00:50:37
can’t. Vyacheslav Kuznetsov, tell
00:50:39
the seller what you know about Russian
00:50:40
insulins, if there are prospects for imports
00:50:42
to replace kumalak and lantus,
00:50:46
if not that they are prospects to
00:50:49
some extent yes, hu hu milk
00:50:51
lantus is replaced,
00:50:53
we must continue, because we
00:50:56
have it, that is, well, as if they often
00:50:58
criticize our insulin, but as if they are there,
00:51:00
and it’s as if it’s definitely not a saline solution, they
00:51:02
work and she, as it were, to he had a
00:51:04
pretty close relationship, so to speak,
00:51:07
at the stage of Adam Booth testing them,
00:51:11
here, of course, there are a large
00:51:13
number of other problems, as if in addition to the
00:51:15
development itself, therefore, because we
00:51:18
understand that it is one thing to create a molecule
00:51:19
to prove that it is equivalent, another
00:51:21
matter and and to scale it up to a huge
00:51:23
production up to millions of people and,
00:51:25
accordingly, there are further
00:51:27
problems with logistics with transport
00:51:28
preservation and other things, that is, these
00:51:30
may be problems that can
00:51:32
reduce the quality of insulin at the
00:51:34
stage of its consumption, but globally there is
00:51:37
such a prospect, and these
00:51:39
drugs are available, that is, but how to
00:51:41
absorb the doses no one will fall into
00:51:43
the tables we have run out of four and a
00:51:45
half questions approximately now it’s already
00:51:47
just blitz but nevertheless they are calling
00:51:51
to take the laconic old questions a lot of ok
00:51:54
ask the great designer is it possible to
00:51:57
maintain sugar in a type 1 diabetic
00:51:59
at the level of 33 at night without insulin or
00:52:03
this is fraught with consequences without insulin,
00:52:04
but since type 1 diabetics
00:52:07
do not produce their own insulin,
00:52:09
they will not drive at all, as if
00:52:11
new ones they will have hyperglycemia
00:52:14
Karl-August avanti asks
00:52:16
whether attempts have been made to
00:52:17
control type 1 diabetes mellitus
00:52:19
with the help of selective
00:52:21
immunosuppressants,
00:52:23
yes of course they have been made and they
00:52:26
continue to be undertaken, that is, there are
00:52:27
actually two types of work in
00:52:29
relation to this, that is, the first thing that will
00:52:31
catch people who, well, will already
00:52:34
have autoantibodies to their own beta
00:52:36
cells and to other structures that
00:52:38
cause their destruction, that is, to catch
00:52:40
when there are still some antibodies, we have beta
00:52:42
cells still alive and will prescribe
00:52:44
immunosuppressive therapy for this, or well, we are
00:52:46
talking about
00:52:48
using stem cells for us
00:52:50
like an artificial
00:52:51
pancreas and subsequent
00:52:54
immunosuppression so that these tissues
00:52:56
function, there is such work, but how
00:52:59
would it all be like so far at the level of
00:53:00
theory, that is, there are some more
00:53:02
successful molecules, less successful ones,
00:53:04
but it is in routine practice, yes, that
00:53:07
is, how we treat
00:53:08
patients now, this is not used in
00:53:10
relation to type 1 diabetes, much more
00:53:12
promising and most likely how would
00:53:14
this happen earlier than an artificial
00:53:15
pancreas is an artificial
00:53:17
pancreas, that is, it is
00:53:19
a system where they use insulin
00:53:21
pumps and a system for determining
00:53:23
glucose levels and the ladies kind of form
00:53:25
that feedback loop between them,
00:53:28
that is, they simultaneously combine a
00:53:30
pump and a sensor device to
00:53:32
determine glucose, as it were, and which
00:53:34
itself imitates the action of the pancreas, a
00:53:37
question from Nikolai Tuzhilina, which
00:53:40
crystal has won today in
00:53:41
the production of insulin, natural pork
00:53:43
or synthesized by genetic engineering, well, of
00:53:47
course, genetically engineered, since
00:53:49
almost all insulin and which we
00:53:51
now use are analogs of insulin
00:53:52
then there is, as it were, an already modified
00:53:54
molecule of our native insulin, which
00:53:57
we have given some additional properties so that,
00:53:58
on the contrary, it works faster or
00:54:01
works slower, that is, so of
00:54:02
course, well, I’m interested in
00:54:04
bacteria and fungi, mushrooms,
00:54:07
it’s from Tomsk, what infectious
00:54:11
diseases suffered in early
00:54:13
childhood leads to diabetes and how often does this
00:54:15
happen,
00:54:16
well, how often is it 0 4 percent in the
00:54:20
general population, that’s how specific it is,
00:54:22
that is, there is a huge number of viruses,
00:54:24
that is, the flu, like parvovirus sake,
00:54:26
intones not only there was a very large
00:54:27
number of viruses, but to say that this
00:54:29
particular one was in this
00:54:31
specific pupa person something this
00:54:32
child at the age of seven developed
00:54:35
diabetes because he was ill on
00:54:37
October 15, 2015 and therefore he has
00:54:39
diabetes, we unfortunately cannot
00:54:41
question from Denis told from Novy
00:54:44
Urengoy I correctly understood that
00:54:45
normalizing weight this
00:54:47
minimizes the risk of getting diabetes what
00:54:50
weight parameters are considered minimally
00:54:52
dangerous from the point of view of developing diabetes,
00:54:54
but in general, in most studies it is believed
00:54:57
that a decrease in body weight by 5 7 dash 10
00:55:00
percent of consumables is already
00:55:02
accompanied by a significant change in a
00:55:04
significant change in the level of glucose to whom,
00:55:07
as it were, that is, not only the maximum
00:55:09
reduction, but simply from what an
00:55:10
ordinary person can do in his life
00:55:13
to reduce the risks of diabetes or to
00:55:15
try to overcome the existing one is to
00:55:17
reduce body weight, as it were,
00:55:20
some specific cut-off point there is a
00:55:22
ratio of body weight in kilograms
00:55:24
to waist circumference as more so that
00:55:27
exactly that as a threshold value
00:55:28
that needs to be reached conditionally
00:55:30
there is no such thing, well, that is, in general, as if
00:55:32
the less the better, Daria from Moscow
00:55:34
asks what sources are worth
00:55:36
getting acquainted with for educational purposes and on the topic of
00:55:39
diabetes
00:55:41
must, I think there
00:55:45
are quite a lot of such sources on the Internet a large
00:55:46
number of diabetes schools, both in
00:55:48
large diabetic centers and
00:55:50
in large hospitals, in
00:55:52
some private centers where you
00:55:53
can get adequate
00:55:55
consultations, that is, they
00:55:58
have a large number of video manuals on
00:56:00
YouTube, and these schools
00:56:03
lack information about diabetes principle
00:56:05
this is a special no
00:56:07
question from Denis to tell again
00:56:11
how often
00:56:13
old diabetes mellitus is mistakenly diagnosed, what a doctor should
00:56:15
check to make sure the
00:56:16
diagnosis is correct, well, as we already looked at in the
00:56:19
definition of diabetes, this is a persistent increase in the
00:56:22
level of glycemia to, respectively, more than a
00:56:25
family of millimoles on an empty stomach more than 11 1 in
00:56:28
random point or in a test of more than six
00:56:29
and a half percent privileged
00:56:31
hemoglobin, it is very often a mistake to diagnose
00:56:34
diabetes by looking at one point before, that is, because
00:56:37
having received one value and
00:56:40
immediately diagnosing diabetes and, as it were,
00:56:42
prescribing the appropriate therapy or
00:56:44
in the wrong conditions or else
00:56:46
Quite often in our practice
00:56:49
we encounter erroneous diagnoses of diabetes,
00:56:51
for example, what if patients are given a
00:56:53
special test with a glucose load where
00:56:55
they give 75 grams of glucose to drink and then
00:56:58
normally they should check the glucose level
00:56:59
after two hours, but more often they look at
00:57:02
it again after an hour after 30 minutes an
00:57:04
hour and a half if there is anything there that
00:57:06
exceeds the conditional made-up
00:57:08
norms, this is diagnosed as diabetes, or for example,
00:57:10
diabetes can be diagnosed based on an
00:57:12
increased insulin level with
00:57:14
normal glucose levels, and to intimidate
00:57:16
a person is to prescribe a shock
00:57:17
battery of dietary supplements like this occurs
00:57:19
quite often, therefore, in general, once again, there
00:57:21
are clear criteria for diabetes and
00:57:22
such values ​​should be obtained
00:57:24
repeatedly, that is, as if at
00:57:26
least 2 and better with an interval of some
00:57:29
time if there are no acute signs of diabetes,
00:57:32
that is, this is what we’re talking about they write on
00:57:34
the Internet a sharp decrease in body weight is
00:57:36
born, and
00:57:38
frequent urination and so on
00:57:41
Daria from Moscow asks if possible
00:57:44
briefly the opinion of an endocrinologist Akita diet
00:57:48
briefly well, for weight loss it
00:57:51
works the same way as any other diet, well,
00:57:53
that is, as if specifically for
00:57:55
weight loss with the same caloric intake,
00:57:57
plus or minus k, you would also reduce it, but it’s
00:57:59
just quite problematic to
00:58:02
stick to it in the long
00:58:03
term, and so it’s like, in general,
00:58:06
well, no, not a single study has shown the
00:58:07
advantage of the chum diet
00:58:09
compared to any other
00:58:11
forest, but he asks, I heard that if a
00:58:15
large baby is born weighing more than
00:58:16
four and a half g, then this is a consequence of the
00:58:19
mother’s gestational diabetes, is this true, yes,
00:58:22
well, in many cases this is
00:58:24
really true, something is born, a
00:58:26
large fetus is born, everyone is happy that she gave birth
00:58:29
to a hero, but in reality, yes, that’s that, that’s
00:58:31
that cleverly called
00:58:33
macros, that is, macros are one
00:58:35
of the possible consequences of gestational
00:58:37
diabetes
00:58:39
Daria Korzukhin A.I. diabetes occurs
00:58:42
only in mammals, a
00:58:46
good question, well, I think that there are some
00:58:51
analogues and it has ucoz, but today
00:58:53
there will be a report from the spouses, let's
00:58:55
ask, we will hold a consultation of blood with the
00:58:58
involvement of several specialists
00:58:59
Elena Malinkina received information about
00:59:02
studies showing that rotavirus
00:59:04
can include diabetes 1 like, first of
00:59:06
all, in children, is such a connection really
00:59:08
possible or is it a fake?
00:59:10
Well, just specific work with a
00:59:14
specific rotavirus of mine and a specific
00:59:16
strain,
00:59:17
it’s difficult to say this, in principle, it
00:59:19
can be given simply as if all such
00:59:21
work is simply due to the limited number of cases
00:59:24
and a small number of cases. the
00:59:26
bottleneck effect,
00:59:28
therefore, in a specific work, a
00:59:29
different relationship could have been completely shown
00:59:31
and there might not have been, well, a trend that in
00:59:33
general, a global viral infection
00:59:35
can trigger a story like this, but this does
00:59:38
not mean that if you are your child,
00:59:40
you have acquired a viral infection and
00:59:42
he will have diabetes
00:59:44
zlotnik darena asks whether
00:59:46
diabetes mellitus is a provocateur of diseases
00:59:48
not directly related to the disease valerie
00:59:51
research on this topic of children
00:59:54
whose mothers had gestational diabetes mellitus
00:59:56
but in my opinion these are two different questions, I
00:59:58
answer the first ones, but as if
01:00:00
unconditionally, if not directly then
01:00:03
Diabetes mellitus indirectly affects, but about
01:00:05
practically any disease, and
01:00:09
it’s absolutely not even connected with
01:00:13
heart disease, even for example with
01:00:16
gynecological pathology, with
01:00:17
endometriosis or something like that, so well,
01:00:20
one way or another, yes, unfortunately there are 2 answers
01:00:23
Yes, this and that, it was also
01:00:25
shown that children of mothers who had
01:00:28
gestational diabetes, they have, well,
01:00:30
more of a trend for here again, the
01:00:32
disease is like this at the risk of developing
01:00:35
metabolic diseases of the same
01:00:38
diabetes, in particular, they
01:00:40
ask Eugene, highly what are the
01:00:44
biotechnological prospects for the desire for
01:00:46
insulin and dependent diabetes,
01:00:49
well, he said indirectly about this, that is, of course,
01:00:51
that in some way, given the excellent
01:00:55
medicine of the future, we can, as it were,
01:00:57
achieve
01:00:58
technologies that allow us to create
01:01:00
artificial analogues of the
01:01:02
pancreas and, as it were, so that it takes root
01:01:05
and its work is supported with the help of
01:01:06
seemingly adequate drugs
01:01:09
that provide immunosuppression or to
01:01:11
intervene it is
01:01:13
more expensive to destroy beta cells with
01:01:16
existing immunosuppression with the help of
01:01:18
drugs, but so far this is the domain of
01:01:20
research in real life there is no such thing,
01:01:22
I have already said that in my opinion
01:01:23
adequate and more advanced ones will appear much sooner,
01:01:26
the main thing is that they are available to a
01:01:28
wide circle circle of users, here are
01:01:31
artificial pancreases, that
01:01:32
is, this is a mixture of a pump and a sensor, a
01:01:35
question from Maria Polyakova, how
01:01:38
promising is pancreas transplantation effectively
01:01:40
if the data are
01:01:42
pancreatic regeneration and therapy for
01:01:45
beliar pancreatitis, but here immediately yes
01:01:48
no, well, indirectly, I have already
01:01:51
answered this that as if there were attempts at
01:01:53
transplantation with the help of
01:01:54
stem cells, they seem to have a
01:01:57
lot of such studies on mice
01:02:00
walking pigs, if I’m not mistaken, there
01:02:02
are some in humans, well, that is,
01:02:04
because such work exists and there, well, they
01:02:05
sort of achieved that they
01:02:07
produce insulin there, but over
01:02:08
time it’s still there, it’s as if its
01:02:11
own products are fading away, but you
01:02:13
still need to understand that
01:02:15
immunosuppressive drugs are
01:02:17
not vitamins and they have their own side
01:02:19
effects, it’s not a fact that at least for now At
01:02:20
least I think their potential benefit is that
01:02:23
they will allow you to maintain a
01:02:25
functioning state of beta cells
01:02:27
outweighs the risks, so that’s why
01:02:29
this is all so controversial
01:02:31
about biliary pancreatitis, but there is a sense there that due to
01:02:37
diseases that are somehow related with a pathetic
01:02:40
current, the pancreas is destroyed,
01:02:42
including beta cells, well, that is, in
01:02:44
essence, it’s the same type 1 diabetes, well, that’s why it’s
01:02:46
about the
01:02:48
same logic and there are
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Фронтенд-разработчик от Хекслет — https://clc.to/XSlHEQ, переходите и осваивайте новую профессию! Если есть много сахара - будет диабет? Сахарный диабет передается по наследству? Диабет второго типа и инсулинотерапия - это навсегда? ================ Научно-просветительский Форум «Ученые против мифов. Пробуждение Пингвохотепа» 09-10 апреля 2022 г. Рубрика: #Когда_невежество_убивает Эпизод-9. «Мифы о сахарном диабете: сахар, инсулин, гены и фатализм» Спикер: Александр Циберкин — врач-эндокринолог, автор блога «Занимательная эндокринология», https://t.me/funwithmedicine Вредный оппонент: Ольга Деревянко — врач-эндокринолог, к.м.н., зав. отделением эндокринологии Клиники Фомина. ❤ Понравился ролик? Подпишитесь на новые эпизоды ► https://www.youtube.com/antropogenezru?sub_confirmation=1 ❓ Есть вопросы? Пишите вопросы в комментариях - и спикер ответит на них в "Постскриптуме" на канале @ScienceVideoLab 💥 Поддержите наш проект ► https://sponsr.ru/antropogenezru ► https://www.patreon.com/antropogenez 0:00 Начало 1:12 Голосование зрителей «Станет ли меньше сахарного диабета, если из магазинов пропадет сахар?» 3:02 План лекции 4:40 Углеводный обмен на минималках 6:22 Сахарный диабет на минималках 08:46 Сахарный диабет тип 1 vs тип 2 11:48 Что запомнить? 14:45 Миф 1: «Если есть много сахара — будет сахарный диабет» 19:27 Миф 2: «Сахарный диабет передается по наследству» 23:01 Миф 3: «Если посадят на инсулин — навсегда» и Миф 4: «Сахарный диабет второго типа — навсегда» 26:40 Миф 5: «Главное в лечении сахарного диабета —контроль уровня глюкозы» 30:31 Выводы 33:07 Результаты голосования зрителей «Станет ли меньше сахарного диабета, если из магазинов пропадет сахар?» 33:30 Дискуссия с «вредным» оппонентом — врачом-эндокринологом Ольгой Деревянко 45:04 Голосование зрителей «Как вы оцениваете “вредность” оппонента (Ольга Деревянко)?» 45:45 Ответы на вопросы зрителей 47:56 Блиц-опрос 1:03:01 Выбор лучшего вопроса 1:03:30 Результаты голосования «Как вы оцениваете “вредность” оппонента (Ольга Деревянко)?» 1:04:28 Анонс доклада: «Биполярное расстройство: неверные представления и рациональные решения» 📖 Стенограмма доклада: https://vk.com/@antropogenez_ru-mify-o-saharnom-diabete 🎧 Подкасты (Apple, Google и др.): https://antropogenez.mave.digital/ 📚 Источники: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ln8U_scLad0BCgreaEBbM2gcc_EdMufsRyxvnTSgpbo/edit ================ Организатор форума: @AntropogenezRu Запись, монтаж: "Лаборатория Научных Видео" @ScienceVideoLab Площадка в Москве предоставлена НИТУ "МИСиС" Юридическая поддержка: адвокатское бюро CTL https://abctl.ru/ 🦈 GEN.RU: поставщик уникальных принтов и гаджетов для форума https://gen.ru/collection/uchyonie-protiv-mifov%E2%80%8B Ведущий: Александр Соколов, редактор АНТРОПОГЕНЕЗ.РУ Музыка: Константин Устинович, Дмитрий Денисов https://vk.com/alt_sound​ Дизайн: Ирина Фролова, Ирина Галенкова, Евгения Беляева Стенограмма: Анастасия Карцева, Екатерина Тигры Диктор: Евгений Прохоров Видео-заставка: Тимур Низов, Виталий Краусс Анимация: Тимур Низов Скетч: Юлия Родина Видеорежиссер: Виталий Краусс Звукорежиссер: Ксения Аблез Оператор-постановщик: Пётр Стерликов Продюсер: Георгий Соколов Координатор: Мариша Эрина ======================== 🗿 Хотите поддержать проект и получить доступ к эксклюзивным видео? В России ► https://sponsr.ru/antropogenezru/ За рубежом ► https://www.patreon.com/antropogenez Наши Правила комментирования видео: https://antropogenez.ru/youtube-rules/ ANTROPOGENEZ.RU https://vk.com/antropogenez_ru https://t.me/antropogenez_ru https://dzen.ru/antropogenez https://rutube.ru/u/science/

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