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Adolf Hitler

Hunting Hitler

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all about this is a show that you're on

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and it's on Annie is that what son yeah

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Annie is the parent Network it airs on

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History Channel and we just had our

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third season that just finished airing

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what's the thought process behind this

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is a this is it legit a lot of people

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are like finding Hitler get the [ __ ] out

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of here that sound Hitler he died yeah I

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mean not really we don't know right

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that's the that's this isn't like

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ancient aliens this is we they

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Declassified a buncha documents they

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both the Israelis the British and the

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Germans and Americans in the past 20

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years have been declared consistently

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declassified documents and there were a

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bunch of specifically FBI documents that

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we were spending millions and millions

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of dollars actively searching for Hitler

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after the war as was yeah like millions

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of dollars like Hoover was like no no

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send more FBI agents to South America to

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North Africa go to the Canary Islands go

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to Spain trying to find out where this

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guy went tons of real FBI documents with

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real leads with real informants some

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hand or some first eye accounts saying

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that they visit so anyways that's the

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show is us trying to find out sift

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through reality and the fiction of the

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allure the mist the mystery of that

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[ __ ] so what's the official story the

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official story is that he killed himself

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right

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you killed himself in the bunker Ava

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Braun yep and is there any photographic

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evidence of his death or anything so

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what the Russians got the body and they

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got his skull and when they brought it

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back to Moscow nobody has ever been able

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to independently verify who and what

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this body is they let one genetic test

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occur and the body and with the bullet

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holes that they said was Hitler and have

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said and that's the narrative that's the

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story that's all the eyewitness accounts

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that are in even the vicinity of

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collaborating with each other

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and cooperating each other's testimony

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like the closest version because none of

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it seems to be very accurate is that

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okay here's Hitler skull and when they

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did the genetic testing it's that of a

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35 year old woman so like oh well this

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isn't Hitler but they've said for the

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past 80 years that this is Hitler so

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okay first before we start throwing

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stones at Russia let's go back to 1945

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April MA in Berlin

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you have the Allies coming in wrecking

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shop dropping bombs blowing everything

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up they can in every single which way

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you have the Russians coming in from the

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opposite direction they don't even have

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enough guns to arm all their soldiers so

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if they have 200 guys they are 200,000

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guys they have a hundred thousand guns

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if the guy in front of you dies you just

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pick up his gun that's what's happening

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in April of 1945 in Berlin so the noose

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is tightening there is no it is chaos

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anarchy pandemonium this I mean you

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can't this is hell on earth is Berlin

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1945 so I don't know if you could get a

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real story a real the way that we do it

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now where we have you know this forensic

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experts that come in and document

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everything and we look at all the

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different testimonies say this is this

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exactly how it's just not it's not CSI

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this is 1945 Berlin it's crazy so I

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don't know there's there was no like

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absolute proof no and a lot of Nazis did

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escape and go to South America

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the majority of anyone with power the

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Nuremberg trials were with not a winch

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hunt but it was too close a chapter so

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we could start moving forward with

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communism that's what it was the threat

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of fascism the threat of Hitler the

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threat of killing all the Jews the

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threat of world domination by the Nazis

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that threats gone what's the next threat

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Tommen is communism right so that had to

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be a closed chapter of our history so we

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could focus our resources and our

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efforts to what inevitably was going to

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I mean the wall goes up we stand

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Berlin you know we're already looking at

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Korea I mean this this happens almost

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overnight right no one patents like no

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no homies we need to go all the way to

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map Moscow this is not the end of our

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war and we didn't listen to him we then

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have been you know fighting communism

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for the past 75 years so the the ones

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with power that went to South America I

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know a bunch of them went to Argentina

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but they think they went to Honduras and

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a few other places where where do they

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think they wound up so what you had in

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South America both Chile and Argentina

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back to back had fascist regime regimes

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you had a Peron who was part of the Nazi

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Party starting all the way back into the

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mid 30s he's the President of Argentina

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so the Red Cross they were facilitated

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there was about three different rat

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lines that guys were able to

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successfully get out of Europe into

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South America and these are there's no

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question that we're talking thousands if

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not tens of thousands of high-ranking

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Nazis made it there tens of thousands

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and I'm not talking like little soldiers

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I'm talking high-ranking Nazis officers

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got guys like Josef Mengele and the

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Adolf Eichmann I mean these are the most

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disgusting despicable humans to exist at

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the time if he'll if Hitler is dead

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Josef Mengele is the guy that would take

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syringes full of blue ink and inject

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them oh and you have blue eyes Joe or

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you haven't round eyes you know let me

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see if I can make them blue and then

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take twins and start torturing them to

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see if one would feel the pain that's

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Josef Mengele I mean that's the guy that

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then in South America was helping

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high-ranking Argentinians have abortions

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and he set up have you seen the movie

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Colonia know about Colonia Dignidad

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which is that if you're listening right

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now almost warned you not to google it

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because it is it was a torture camp that

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was started by Joseph Schaeffer a Nazi

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and Josef Mengele the the doctor of

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death that escaped trial in Nuremberg

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and made it a pest of her own into

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Argentina he set up the hospital at

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Colonia Dignidad which was another safe

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house safe haven for more

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Nazis in South America go to my air and

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David and ben-gurion the presidents of

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Israel they they took the gloves off and

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they were just sending assassins to try

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to find these people and kill them but

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what you got in South America were

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isolated German only communities you

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could go into bariloche argentina and

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you know i'd be like what else these

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amigos and they're like good and Morgan

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I'm like oh yeah I mean I meant good

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morning yeah sorry it's 2017 right

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I thought we spoke Spanish so in 2017

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you were there and they were speaking

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German yeah whoa why I'm I don't look

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very I might look more European than I

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do so is just them seeing me walking

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down the street and be like yeah and

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there's tons of communities I mean if

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you go to Colonia Dignidad which is now

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called via Bavaria the Bavarian village

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it is uh only German in the center of

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Chile in the mountains of Chile like you

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there's no Spanish beans being spoken

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there it is exclusively German and these

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are the descendants of Nazis powerful

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Nazis

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holy [ __ ] and this is going on right now

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yeah yeah what are these communities

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like I mean what's their ideology are

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they I mean they're pretty white yeah

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what are they like I mean they espouse

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Nazi values or not openly so Colonia

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Dignidad if you look at the second

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generation there's a bunch of so it was

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a huge problem for Chile that they tried

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to hide for years and they they got so

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much power from the torturing that they

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did at Colonia Dignidad on a whole bunch

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of other high-ranking South American

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dictators that they are almost

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untouchable and this this is I mean

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you'd blow your mind if you look into

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this Jo you'll love it but the second

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generation the kids like the grandkids

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sometimes are even more fanatical than

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the original generation have you ever

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seen this we're if somebody's away from

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like when you travel abroad man it's so

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cool like to get into the culture and get

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into the food and get into the like your

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dancing the this style and your you love

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the flag and you're like oh I'm gonna go

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to a soccer game because we don't go to

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soccer games in America that I'm going

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but then maybe after like two months you

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kind of miss home you know and then like

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a year you really miss home and then ten

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years like you really really miss home

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and you see the same thing in the United

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States where it's not really a perfect

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assimilation it's not the Milton pot

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where you see generations that are

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espousing to be more like their ethnic

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heritage than they are American you know

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they're flying the Irish flag and like

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I'm I'm Irish well it's just times a

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thousand with these communities because

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they're exclusively German Wow yeah it's

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pretty cool kind of weird

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so exclusively German and really missing

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home yeah yeah so in the years later the

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second generations I was talking about

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some of them came to the United States

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and were high ranking white supremists

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that are now in jail in prison for their

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racial crimes and they came out of South

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America they came out of Colonia

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Dignidad that came out of bariloche they

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came out of Fort Abad they came out of

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Misiones they came out of yeah Wow crazy

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so that's the show hunting Hitler

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[ __ ] a man to spread how many people

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are we talking about all told in South

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America that can come out of this

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I mean tens of thousands went there but

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how many German communities and Wow

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bigger there maybe have 50 German

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communities 55th how many people if you

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had a guess a few hundred thousand holy

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[ __ ] yeah a few hundred thousand

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descendants of Nazis you know wow yeah

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and me and it's weird when you walk into

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somebody's parlor and it's like you're

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stepping back in time

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into Europe like I'm walking in it's

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it's 2017 and I'm walking in Buenos

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Aires Argentina into somebody's parlor

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and all of the tile is European and all

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of the style and all the art is very

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German you know we have like dear

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and not not like red stags we're talking

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German everything things that Hillier

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loved and that's the style that's

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everything and then they come out and

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like with white gloves they're holding

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their grandpa their grandfather's memory

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box and inside of it or his war medals

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from you know when he was in the SS or

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when he was and it is the respect the I

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don't even know the reference yeah it's

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like a whole like it's the pup I think

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this is a gift from the Pope that

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they're holding their hands white gloves

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no I can't first of all Tim can't touch

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it that's but I can appreciate it and

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then they tell me the story of every

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single one of these things and how he

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got there and how he then went and

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worked for the Buenos Aires news you

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can't touch anything no they wouldn't

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know cuz I come yo you're dirty I'm

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dirty dirty America is too Brown yeah

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[ __ ] man

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so we followed the first two seasons it

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was really just unraveling the rumors of

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what happened to Hitler the third season

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was my favorite because I actually got

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to do real work they said okay I got the

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second season I got to bring in more

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Special Forces guys CIA targeter Nadia

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who helped my unit kill Zarqawi in 2006

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that this is the team that is now

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looking at real evidence trying to

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figure out okay how did we find bin

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Laden how did we find sukar as our Cowie we

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looked at their associates and we looked

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at how they moved we looked at how they

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communicated we looked at what routes

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they were using to get chewing from

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places and then we just started

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tightening the noose and that's exactly

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what we did in this third season was ok

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let's start following the Adolf

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Eichmann's let's start following the

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Joseph manga lays and let's start

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following the scores in skis Hitler's

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personal bodyguard that was a colonel in

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the SS that went on to work for

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everybody after the war fighting I mean

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fascists do not like communists so this

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guy was working for everybody to include

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the CIA fighting fascism in South

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America are fighting communism as a

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fascist in South America in the 50s 60s

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and 70s

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creepy stuff oh yeah so so hunting

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Hitler are there any legitimate

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eyewitness accounts of Hitler in South

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America or potentially legitimate

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absolutely potentially whoa yep I

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eyewitness counts I saw him get off a

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boat I saw him meet here and if it was

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just some person saying it it's almost

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meaningless right but if you look at the

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context of who this person is the wealth

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that they have that they shouldn't have

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can you explain how you got so rich in

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two generations you know like okay your

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grandpa got here from Germany in 1946

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that's weird

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and he he's on a legitimate visa with an

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Argentinean passport also weird and now

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he's a war refugee that's now worth

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millions of dollars

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how does this how does this work so but

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people and then this is the hard part

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people want to be connected to

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significant events and especially in

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small rural areas of the world

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developing areas like they want there so

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nothing there so little happening they

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want to be attached to something massive

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and like the fact that they saw you boat

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land on this beach and the pot the hatch

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opened and you know this these cars

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we're sitting there and they're doing

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Morse code and this guy gets off and he

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had this little mustache like what for

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but you boats can't Beach that's not how

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that works you know and and but you know

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what they're trying to do they just want

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to be connected yeah so and now we're

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removed 70 to 80 years from the facts it

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has been painful to try to use real

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science real investigative tools to try

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to sift through this lore you know what

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do you think happened I mean you've been

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studying this for how long now three

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years years yeah if you had a guess if

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you had like a million bucks you got to

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put it on one side or another

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you go there yeah whoa

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i Jesus Christ I would say man it's it's

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in that that's the first time I've ever

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said it flat out like that what what I

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want to say is the way history is

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written is wrong that that's that's

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clear there's no way that we can say he

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died on this day this is what happened

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here is his body and that's what his

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physical proof is for sure the woman

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that had yeah they were saying was

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Hitler is definitely not Hitler

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it was absolutely not that's a so they

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don't have so then our other option was

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Kate is the AVA Brahms that he just

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grabbed the wrong body right so there

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are still descendants of Ava and we

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tried to have them allow us to do it

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then we tried to go through like when

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they can get DNA off of the skull yes

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meat on it I think it's like Oh a tooth

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yeah

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and but they wouldn't consent to it so

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then we tried to do you know like where

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people have like the the tree their

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ethnic tree you know what's know what

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those websites called 23andme yeah yeah

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there's like a bunch of them we try to

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go that route but um it wouldn't consent

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to it no the Ava Braun's family they

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just want it gone they just don't want

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yeah they're super pissed that we even

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found them I'm sure which was hard which

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is really hard hold him down get him to

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spit in a bucket yeah the I know I got I

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mean or pull their trash do that

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definitely not do that but I mean that's

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how they caught the Golden State killer

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right it was off a [ __ ] cigarette

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butt yeah they got DNA off a cigarette

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butt so history's wrong for it to be

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black and white like that and and if and

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again if you go back to 1945 we needed

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scientists we needed every single German

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electrical engineer mechanical engineer

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aerospace anything you're on the VQ

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program you know any we want all of you

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because now it's a race it's a race we

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have the bomb now we need delivery

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systems now we need to get to the moon

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now we need to you know

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all of those things are real-time it's a

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war a war of dollars in a war of science

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and we got all those scientists yeah the

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Russians didn't well they got some so

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not very many Operation Paperclip was

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what brought over the what Wernher von

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Braun who was when you talk to Jews that

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were in Berlin during the time that

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Wernher von Braun was running his rocket

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program there he would hang the five

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slowest Jews in front of the rocket

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Factory in Berlin just to give everybody

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motivation to work harder yeah it's a

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Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if

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Wernher von Braun was alive today they

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would prosecute him for crimes against

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humanity yeah he was a Nazi straight-up

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Nazi and people there's apologists that

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say no no he was a scientist he was

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forced into doing that like that's like

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okay he's a Nazi

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yeah there's photographs of him wearing

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Nazi garb hanging out with Nazis he his

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rocket factory killed Jews like this is

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these are all undeniable facts I said

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the war ends and they're not not that's

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how that works exactly but they were

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they were forgiven because they came

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over and contributed to our rocket

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program I'm not that I'm not that good

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of a human I don't have that in me I

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don't have that like okay it's for you

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Tim Kennedy tells Joe what he's learned doing his show "Hunting Hitler".

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