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you to me you you you are now like just salt
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in the wound I am today carving my pics yesterday
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my mustache they are just a little bit and would
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probably reach the level of your
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mustache And they gave them like that uh I envy you and
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send a compliment and and I I something- then I
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thought, I thought I needed to take this Vax
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before the interview, and now I saw myself and
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realized that I forgot, you just don’t need
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a buck, absolutely everything works Evgeniy, I
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wanted to start with the topic,
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again, of the confiscation and transfer of
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Russia’s frozen reserves to Ukraine,
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lawyers are talking about this now Biden and
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claim that they have found a way to
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do this, US President Biden can
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use the Extraordinarily
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International Economic Powers Act
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of 1977, and the
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report of a group of experts
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published by the New York Times states that this
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law directly states that the President can
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investigate, block, regulate,
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direct and force, cancel
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prevent or prohibit the transfer of
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property this power relates to the
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transfer of any right of authority or
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privilege in respect of property in
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which a foreign
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state is interested and is under the
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jurisdiction of the United States excuse the
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tongue twister before this, American
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presidents have already resorted to this
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practice, for example, George W. Bush
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froze Iraqi assets in the USA after the
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invasion of Kuwait and handed them over to the
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UN commission for victims of
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Saddam Hussein’s aggression, but of course
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there was no talk about such an amount, so the question
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for you is how important this precedent is and
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I know that it can have ambiguous
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consequences for the Western financial
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system in that including for the City of London, in
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London, too, there is a fair
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share of these confiscated assets.
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Will Western financial institutions agree to this,
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or will they still be
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forced to do this under pressure from
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politicians?
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But I hope they won’t because
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And according to the law, we need to figure it out
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essentially in
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exactly every case, otherwise it is
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called banditry For whatever holy
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good purpose,
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if the state or some politician
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takes the path of indiscriminately
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moving
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property without trial, this is
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banditry and it will end
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Tom
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Eve will not do exactly this
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again
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One thing the case of Saddam Hussein and I don’t
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know the right to apply one thing, how would
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it be if these are personal assets, personal assets of
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Putin or are recorded by his friends and they
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are personal, it has been proven that there are
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absolutely no questions, the
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Armed Forces Relief Fund of Ukraine with control in general with
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all hands for But what if this is a businessman who
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got caught on the Forbes list And because he
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made money in Russia, simply because
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he was on the Forbes list and
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should be robbed,
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there are more questions than
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answers because how people got
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into sanctions and the presence of dramatic
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errors in the sanctions list speaks
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in absolute indiscriminate and wild haste in
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which it was done then, but here it’s
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better to make a mistake in that direction than in that
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because you would rob a person who
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was actually engaged in retail trade there.
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And I left 15 years ago, I’m not talking about myself
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now and came under sanctions because, well,
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I I didn’t fall under sanctions, I had a
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temporary restriction on my account in Switzerland
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for 10 months and since November last year
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I have had no
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restrictions, this kind of
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inspires trust and is
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such a toxic drop. For all this,
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for this entire sheet, I am absolutely in favor of
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Putin’s entourage who made
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money thanks to
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Putin. I am for everyone who
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participates in the war in the construction of the
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Crimean bridges at the Ural Car Factory and
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other uh
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-
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well, everything that works for the war now is the entire
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financial chain that works for
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the war, and of course there are no
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questions at all, this is
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uh financial military the goal should
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be hit there and
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change the resource sign and start working
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to
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support Ukraine, what
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has been destroyed in Ukraine right up to the financing of the
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Ukrainian army. But you need to
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understand exactly in every case, in exactly
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every case, the
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presumption of innocence is what
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distinguishes the wild barbarian
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and
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a Asian
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from civilized
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European and constitutional and
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democratic Asian can also be
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different,
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it can be Asian Iranian can be Asian
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Japanese is correct and something
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in the middle is Japanese. It’s not even
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Asian,
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they are a completely different nation, but
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again
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imagine you go to the VNO club in
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Warsaw and they tell you no stop
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goodbye This is only for the Poles, can you
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imagine, you encountered this in
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Japan Yes, Okay, I
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understood this, too, based on
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nationality. This is definitely the first
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step on the wrong path.
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Now that we have already touched on this topic,
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you said about Putin’s assets now, this
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topic it’s already a long time ago and different
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numbers are mentioned, there are a lot of them, we need to select them,
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you recently gave
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an interview to Dmitry Gordon, they were talking about this, that in
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20 years of power he has accumulated a fabulous
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fortune, which is dispersed among
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various trusted persons, and here is
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your quote from the interview. And this money
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Putin's are all hanging on someone there for
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every penny someone is looking at the assets
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somewhere buildings somewhere a business somewhere cash
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gold battles in dark places and so
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on He is obsessed with land He has a lot of
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land Well, all sorts of people were married there like
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Raldugin who is worth 2 billion dollars
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and you call it such a tiny
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part there is a rough understanding of what
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amount Putin is talking about now, then about
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his entourage why
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such measures have not yet been taken and how
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capable they are of reimbursing this amount of 300 billion
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dollars they can compete with her,
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this will be enough to restore
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Ukraine
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at a very
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drunken evening
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at the Krasnoyarsk Economic Forum where
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I was present.
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And in a company with their phones turned off and
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batteries removed, several drunk
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people said, but we counted how much
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he had, only about 8. It was 2008
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in the
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present day. my nineteenth or one
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of the
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people
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close there said that in total,
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taking into account the reservation, their shares
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here and there are approximately
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200. This is only Putin, only Putin,
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and what of this has not yet been
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frozen from this state, not a
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penny of it is of course surprising Moreover, there are
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tools for this, I think that e
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Therefore, yes. Therefore, he considers the whole world to be
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idiots and talks down to politicians with
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Westerners
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because he sees
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how, well, that is, he was taught this. It’s clear
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to be inconspicuous to fool around the finger.
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Well, so far he’s
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succeeding, but he’s
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The Russians took the car from the dog show.
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Well done, that's where they took it,
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they won the little victorious
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crap, now there's a whole mission, I've heard
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your several interviews, you're talking a lot now. You're
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talking about the absolute failure and
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sanctions policy. About the fact that
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this is actually the moment when
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emotions were at the limit. That's
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it second year, then it was necessary to
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give the opportunity to the maximum
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number of Russians to leave Europe, that
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is, they may have had such an
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opportunity, but it was a question of desire,
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desire
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had the opportunity, and even now they do
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n’t let money out of Russia, try.
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For example, you decided to sell everything and
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leave Try to transfer money from
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Russia you sold an apartment something else something
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else Try now to transfer money from Russia
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to Europe or to the West there is
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no money through the Emirates through crypto
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back and forth if it is a large amount You have
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good connections
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2.5% is for happiness and so 6 percent is
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all stuck Putin’s money, so all the money
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stays in the country and they work there, or
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in the Emirates there, at best, that is,
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obviously not in Europe not in the West Well, at
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best, in the Emirates in the Emirates they are also
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afraid less afraid but they are also afraid there
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they took the planes and are not flying anywhere
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from there, they have been melting there for years now and
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at some point Smith
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may put pressure
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on the
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Emirates, I hope they will sort out the
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essence or And they will whistle earlier a few
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days before the sanctions arrive, like
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some Swiss
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banks Evgeniy Well, what can you say
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about the arguments that such an
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influx of Russian tourists on a permanent basis
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would threaten the security of these countries? So
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they are looking at the same Germany where there is a
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large Russian one, quite
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aggressive, you know, which with the tricolor
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and with the Z sign and the St. George ribbon Judging by
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Apparently I’m not ready to say goodbye yet, well,
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they are no longer there, the activists sent
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the rest of them, Despite the fact that they
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remained politically. So they sit
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quietly and all their Tricolor prisoners are at home, but there are
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no more speeches, but
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initially in Germany this was the quality of
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the diaspora that Germany needed
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they received working hands along with
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working hands, approximately the same
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brains that Great Britain needed Finance
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and top-class specialists and students
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for colleges, here in Britain the
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best diaspora of all that I have seen
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in general, Russian ones are of the highest quality,
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Despite the fact that there are also people
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who everything is not so clear
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We don’t know the whole Truth, but they sit quietly, do
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n’t twitch, don’t stick their heads out
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at all,
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and those
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who 3-4 years ago before Covid with the
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St. George Ribbon celebrated the joyful
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Victory Day are
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now
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generally
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behaving differently and
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positioning themselves differently. Out of fear, they are not according to
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conviction, that’s
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why Well, that is, well,
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again,
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plus, of course, public pressure
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support for Ukraine is great if
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people’s opinion is more likely to be decided in favor of the
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power of light, if a person is stubborn, it’s
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no longer clear, it won’t
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change anything. What else did you want to say about these sanctions
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No, well, if we are talking about
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sanctions, sanctions against
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some people have been lifted, then I know the same Berezkin.
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You also
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comment on this on different thoughts, after all,
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Berezkin
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is mentioned as a person who at
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some time had an affair
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with cougars, and so on, it’s like I would like to control the
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versions of such a decision, but I know you
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still connect it not with
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some suspicions of corruption there
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or with the extremely successful lobbyists
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who hired these people, but still with the fact
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that maybe there is a rollback
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of this policy of sanctions and more What do you
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think is a reasonable attitude towards participation or
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non-participation in Russian
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corruption, another department should deal with it
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even not not evgeni I meant
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the corruption of Western officials, that
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is, I mean some kind of money
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offered one way or another in one
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form or another for the lifting of sanctions
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And I think that at the moment this is not
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very possible. I think that the
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legal team just did a good job there and
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he managed not to leave any digital traces,
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well, that is, if there are no
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noticeable digital traces and then
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if the person did not call
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anywhere again there the
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conditional Uralvagonzavod did not contain the
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production of Tanks
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and money, well, money that goes to war.
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They come from the sale of oil and
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gas. And this continues to be an absolutely
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legal business
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for
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and
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if a
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private person cannot transfer money to
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Europe, then Gazprom is for Gas Transit
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transfers and they accept this money from him,
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they grunt, maybe even
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cross themselves, but they accept it.
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So Gazprom Dasha for this gas,
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European companies
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again, maybe they spit, wash their hands after
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that, but platt and this money goes to
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war and not some private investor
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Berezkin bought RBC and wildly ruined it
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Well, because otherwise he wouldn’t have had
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media. I don’t know why he bought it, but in
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general I don’t know other
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businesses of RBC.
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However, this does not mean that he should
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be under
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sanctions, well, this does not mean that does
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not mean in any way that it should be under
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sanction. But
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the money that is state and
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that the state spends on war,
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but without it it turns out that this world cannot
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live, and there are several hundred
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tankers that change
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documents and
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flags, mix this oil and sell it
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at the entire Asian part And no one sanctioned them,
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they pump and sell, pump and sell,
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pump and sell. I think that some kind of
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deal on gas and maybe on oil
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was made with Azerbaijan and Turkey and
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they paid for it with Karabakh, simply betraying
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everything, that is,
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another enemy uh Yes Putin is phenomenal
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because of the nation of countries that treated
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well phenomenal mites from enemies to themselves Well
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uh the Russians went to hell and tore up
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passports and so on This is what we
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see in Armenia who feel
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100% betrayal Because they were
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promised that they would stand up for them so
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leaked 100 % 100% we find out that there is some kind of
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agreement on the transportation of
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hydrocarbons associated with Azerbaijan
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and Turkey, I wanted to talk about this at the end,
00:18:10
but since you mentioned it, in fact, there
00:18:12
are several opinions about
00:18:13
Karabakh, here in Yahoo, a well-known
00:18:16
columnist on the Yahoo website writes that this is
00:18:20
evidence of what happened in Karabakh, this is
00:18:24
R, that is, the imperial Greatness of Russia in the
00:18:28
form of Northern Nagorno-Karabakh and
00:18:31
shows the weakness of Moscow in this
00:18:33
region due to the war in Ukraine, and
00:18:37
even Russian Peacekeepers were killed in Mountainous Karabakh
00:18:39
today, President Ilham Aliyev
00:18:40
apologized to Putin that
00:18:42
Putin answered unknown, I’m quoting from the jellyfish
00:18:44
among the dead, the deputy
00:18:46
commander of the submarine forces of the Northern
00:18:48
Fleet. And the famous Ukrainian journalist
00:18:52
Vitaly Portnikov believes that on the contrary it
00:18:54
looks like and smells like an agreement with
00:18:56
Azerbaijan, this is a
00:18:58
punishment more and more about the Western
00:19:01
democratic, that is, accordingly
00:19:02
anti-Putin regime of Pashinyan,
00:19:05
so He agrees to give in essence,
00:19:08
Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. Yes, Azerbaijan also
00:19:12
owes Putin in this regard, and on the
00:19:14
other hand, it is bringing Armenia to the point of, you
00:19:20
know, the line of
00:19:23
potential unrest and they hope that as a
00:19:25
result of this defeat
00:19:29
in Karabakh, the Pashinyans will be overthrown and
00:19:32
totalitarian or authoritarian
00:19:35
pro-government will return to Armenia
00:19:38
[music]
00:19:52
ministers, often the ministers themselves
00:19:55
are under the direct control of Putin,
00:19:58
so Putin managed approximately everything, there is
00:20:03
very little or almost none of this in the
00:20:05
Baltic countries.
00:20:07
And this is
00:20:10
what Yushchenko tried to do, it didn’t
00:20:16
work out, what
00:20:18
Saakashvili tried to do worked for some time.
00:20:20
Now everything has rolled back and then that,
00:20:23
as far as I understand, Nasko I
00:20:29
indirectly participated in
00:20:32
Zelensky’s attempt to remove the Chekists
00:20:35
from the customs, from the administration of
00:20:39
the country in general, remove the
00:20:40
FSB and get out of control. Here
00:20:47
[music]
00:20:49
and we see yes What consequences this led to
00:20:52
I think that this is one of the
00:20:54
Big reasons That is, you don’t think
00:20:57
that in Karabakh there is such a multi-move game
00:20:59
that Putin played, after all. Don’t
00:21:02
forget that Pashinyan is really
00:21:03
playing such an incomprehensible game and hinting
00:21:06
that he will leave the OKB and sign the Rome
00:21:09
Statute; his wife was in Kiev and handed over
00:21:12
such a small but nevertheless
00:21:13
symbolically important aid to the
00:21:18
Ukrainians they agreed when They
00:21:22
came in. I have no doubt that they
00:21:25
agreed with Putin, time
00:21:28
electric Yerevan, as a rule, Putin
00:21:32
controls both sides, as in
00:21:35
all revolutions in Kyrgyzstan, all iterations in
00:21:39
Kyrgyzstan, Putin's FSB agents
00:21:42
controlled both sides, you
00:21:44
mean and the so-called revolution as
00:21:46
these are tulips Yes, it was called in 2005
00:21:48
and the fifth and next change of power and
00:21:52
so on. That
00:21:54
is,
00:21:56
they seem to
00:21:59
control both parts so that nothing
00:22:02
happens, nothing goes wrong, that’s
00:22:07
why the incomprehensible status of Moldova I don’t
00:22:10
know, I wouldn’t risk going there yet
00:22:14
how Oh, I wouldn’t risk going to
00:22:16
Armenia, it’s
00:22:18
still too much
00:22:22
[music]
00:22:28
No, no, under no circumstances should I go,
00:22:32
and that’s why
00:22:35
not to one of the Asian former
00:22:38
Republics, including even Kazakhstan, which
00:22:42
demonstrates the most Independence
00:22:44
and is trying to rely on
00:22:47
China, too. territorial guarantees Yes,
00:22:51
we know the North, the whole North of
00:22:54
Kazakhstan is, well, populated
00:22:56
by Russian-speaking e Rumi and Putin has
00:22:59
repeatedly hinted that we could
00:23:02
there if we had bitten off half of Ukraine in
00:23:08
Kiev as they wanted and no one would
00:23:10
have twitched from Odessa to Kharkov with such a
00:23:13
crescent
00:23:15
at this moment already Putin would be at
00:23:21
Baikonur Where from where Garin Belki
00:23:26
Strelki that's all 100 100%
00:23:32
otkhara
00:23:33
e where the subsoil is and they would sell it
00:23:39
like how Baikanur returned to his native [ __ ]
00:23:43
[ __ ] Evgeniy we have literally
00:23:45
a few minutes with you regularly here are
00:23:47
your interviews I'm they are checking
00:23:51
Putin's mobilization efforts to what extent
00:23:53
they are now and I have bad news
00:23:56
So what do
00:24:00
I give if you
00:24:10
mobilize
00:24:13
attention
00:24:15
400
00:24:17
500.000 from
00:24:19
Moscow No, in my opinion 500,000 Federal and
00:24:24
Moscow
00:24:26
200
00:24:28
so I look at
00:24:30
this 7000 bucks 7 basso 7000 bucks Wow
00:24:36
this has never happened before 7.000 bucks for
00:24:40
the signature That is, you have a
00:24:44
sentence hanging for
00:24:47
drugs, you, I don’t know, hit someone not to death
00:24:54
And you have a sentence hanging for you,
00:24:58
well, not not robbery, but theft of a crime
00:25:03
Yes, it’s
00:25:04
being investigated and you
00:25:08
lost You owe a shitload of Fight to the dealer,
00:25:12
you smashed the car to smithereens bought on
00:25:15
credit and you decide it with one
00:25:20
signature 700 liters, let’s say 100,000
00:25:23
mobilize such a signature from
00:25:26
700
00:25:29
million dollars and that’s quite you 700 ml
00:25:32
dollars
00:25:33
and for three rubles Yes, they still have to pay three rubles somewhere
00:25:37
for 4 or 6 months, so
00:25:41
Calculate Well, also uniforms and everything
00:25:43
else equipment weapons, that is, it’s
00:25:46
far over a billion, that is,
00:25:48
700 yes 700 is far over a billion dollars,
00:25:51
what do you think that 2 days of
00:25:54
Gazprom’s work days of
00:25:56
Gazprom’s work I’m asking, here’s the news
00:25:59
that companies in Moscow are massively
00:26:00
preparing to transfer employee data
00:26:02
to the military registration and enlistment office and about this, for this they are actively
00:26:06
looking for specialists in military
00:26:08
registration And at the same time Well, it’s who came to
00:26:12
whom the deadline has come Yes, they will try to
00:26:16
take him for free, but they are fully
00:26:19
guaranteed That is, this is the money for
00:26:22
which they are guaranteed to collect
00:26:24
any number of people, any number of
00:26:26
people, that is at least
00:26:28
Well,
00:26:29
again, which again will be Poorly
00:26:32
equipped Poorly
00:26:35
equipped as if they were meat, they
00:26:38
will last on meat waves on meat
00:26:40
waves and you think it will be better than
00:26:43
this last mobilization wave,
00:26:46
but it’s better for Putin because his rating will
00:26:49
not collapse
00:26:50
because that the last time it collapsed
00:26:53
and they didn’t do that again And when the
00:26:58
pink IT guy with glasses died who didn’t
00:27:01
want to but who was afraid to disobey,
00:27:05
that’s bad for Putin And when the ghoul
00:27:10
who’s hanging on to
00:27:11
drive into the five zone in zone a or a
00:27:19
turn to the hero and also Well, just
00:27:25
close the criminal case with this bribe.
00:27:28
No questions at all. Well, as
00:27:31
always, sincerely, frankly, a little
00:27:33
pessimistic, but again, we are good, and
00:27:36
someone must, someone must.
00:27:40
Well, again,
00:27:41
I saw
00:27:43
this advertisement when I saw it the day before yesterday
00:27:47
with these Of course, I
00:27:51
was unpleasantly surprised by the new figures, to be honest, that is,
00:27:54
they drew conclusions from last year and
00:27:57
Judging by the fact that they raised money, there
00:27:59
really are not enough people at the front

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