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Hello friends, my name is Olena Kurbanova
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and I am happy to welcome you to the Kurbanova YouTube channel,
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and this is a very special interview,
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because it will be people with whom I just
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dreamed of being together, talking,
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communicating. I hope that you are our
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conscious and very active audience, as
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always. You will support us
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comment, don't forget to help us
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spread our conversation today and
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be sure to subscribe to the
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Kurbanovala YouTube channel. Moreover,
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today we have a loyal guy, friends, the spokesperson of the
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volunteer community, informant Napal
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Mykhailo Makaruk, whom you have already seen
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on our YouTube channel, and now we are also seeing
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Misha live. happy to see you Thank you
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for being with us Glory to Ukraine Glory to the heroes
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thank you for the invitation So we
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couldn't start because we were constantly
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laughing and laughing because of you and this
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means that you are an incredibly optimistic
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person means we have one and a half years of
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full-scale war 10 years in total
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from attack on our Ukraine You saw
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death, devastation and horror and at the same time You are a very
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optimistic happy person what is
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happening how did you keep this feeling
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in yourself And war is not black and white
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it is
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gray you come to your death collapsed on
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Chernobaivka you are one of the first
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to set up a flag there and you see that people
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come out to you and are happy to see you and
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they don't ask for candy.
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We brought them there to give out to people, don't give them a
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flag. A little schoolboy who would sell his
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soul to the devil for a beret of the land climbs up.
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You give it to him. He's just
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happy. You see kids like you.
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they meet in Kherson for two days with
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Ukrainian flags and you just
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give food there to women who you already know, the
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older ones are solid, you give them ordinary bars of
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chocolate, they say it’s our Ukrainian,
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they rejoice
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Well, if you don’t have a positive attitude Well, you’ll bend down And
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someday if someone asks me what is
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the army
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is huge, you know, a camp for
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men of indeterminate age
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who Yes, they have hard work, but they also
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try to rest, including it
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seems to me that according to feelings, last
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year, although it was
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Nobody is ready for the Great War, there was
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still a lot of sunshine Well,
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because there were such circumstances, the news, we did not
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lose Kyiv, we did not fall, we liberated
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our territories according to feelings, now I
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share my feeling, there are a lot of clouds
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and they are dark Do you have a feeling of fear
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after the journey you have made?
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you know why they were like that, everyone was
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like that, they were running on rainbows, everything was like that,
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honestly Well, frankly, I can tell you that everyone is
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on the board, that the war moved away from Kyiv,
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everything aha-ha moved away from Kharkiv, in general,
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excellent Yes, and everyone scored a bolt, well, if And
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why change They are ours heroes They are there
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until the end They don't get tired and it
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only changes
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in the case of a disability or you will be
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brought home in zinc, well, if everything is fine,
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everyone scored a bolt and the shelling, well, the anti-aircraft defense
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is doing a great job.
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What are the
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conditions they are in and
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these shifts? They are constantly there 24/7.
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At the end of the shift, a person
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climbs out like a zombie, and this is also a
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question of whether I have anything.
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No, I will explain
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why.
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and the question is that Well, we need to
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understand
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that the west is not going to help us
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[music],
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well, Valery Fedorovych
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during the announcement of the counteroffensive, which
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was broken up by all the commanders, yes He said
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I need 500 units of
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barrel artillery, how many did they give us, God bless 100
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I need 800,900 BMP, how much did they give,
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give God 300 I need 300-400 tanks,
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how many have they given, God give
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100 and all Oh well, I’m not going to reveal a
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big secret right now What, for example,
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will we be useful, you know, the civilians ask,
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look, we are striking from fpv
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Drones with half-sized ones, and even in some
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areas of the front more than in the artillery of
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Ipvin, the help of Western partners does not come there anymore, this is
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where it is
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made, developed and used,
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and this is real help,
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and you understand us, people
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try not to read, but
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to imitate, it is written in an article on the Economist
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that we need a new technological
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breakthrough and all ah, what is there It is
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clearly written in the same place that you need not only
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tanks, armored vehicles, you need
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counter-battery means of anti-aircraft defense, so
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that air defense is different, you only see Shaheds in Kyiv,
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if I say that under
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Kherson, a piece of crap is flying at you that weighs
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at least half a ton and breaks these half
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tons. Where is that? then in a radius of
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5-6 km there, the mouse generally does not appear due to
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those vibrations and the ground is torn up there so that,
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well, there are few bunkers, then from that you
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also need air defense from planes that fly from the
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air defense force. And this raises
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the question of where the restructuring of the economy is. Well, where is this
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question not so much to Ukrainian business
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as to Ukrainian officials of the Verkhovna
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Rada. To the Cabinet of Ministers, you will
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understand, they gave the opportunity to produce
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drones already the Minister of Defense for
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Minister Gavrilov, who tells us that we will
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set a record number, so give the
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opportunity to produce other
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civilian enterprises in the military sphere, shells
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will be produced, the same cartridges the
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complexes themselves are rebrer and that's all. I'm sure that
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even armored vehicles will be able to be
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fixed and made by some of the private manufacturers.
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Well, everyone was shouting, why are you
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doing it, yes, the avatar drives the avatar, a cool
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car, no one believed. I remember these
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crowds, Lord, forgive some volunteers
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and the military and officials that Bohdana is a
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dead project, you tell this to the guys who
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work with them and that Bohdana went to the
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mo series and when they say that there is a war, we
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will not be able to produce good people. The Third Reich
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increased the production of airplanes,
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their greatest peak was in 1944, when they were
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bombed mercilessly, but they released What's
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worse is that Ukraine is a small country or something
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or there are no people who are ready to build. But
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here you see how they talk not only about
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technological re-equipment. And also about
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people, this is what you and I touch on. There is
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always a problem with mobilization. There is a whole movement
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and those who are very wants to fight for his
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constitutional rights and go abroad,
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because everyone should be equal, both men and women,
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and the problem with the fact that, as Yuriy
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Butusov, the editor-in-chief says, is censored, that most likely all of
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them
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really wanted to protect the country. They are already
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at the front of others it is necessary to either stimulate
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or conduct some kind of dialogue with them. We
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see there a third assault force that would
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carry it out.
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But there is a very good recruitment there.
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Azov, who is now posting his
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vacancies on work.ua, what to do with
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mobilization. Give me some weapon that
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I will use. also in a good
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sense for the audience to explain Well, it
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can't be like that, they can't be at the front endlessly until the
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end, literally or figuratively,
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only those who are already there,
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how to make rotation happen
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Look It's small I think it's a big
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percentage A million people left voluntarily a
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large audience came there voluntarily,
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what to do? And it’s not you who should
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suffer as a journalist, yes,
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as a conscious citizen, this is a task to
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see directly.
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They know that in our country, any
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minister of defense has said that, any minister of defense
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is starting, I am reforming the military enlistment offices of the
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TCC, the centers, all the regulations have not changed since the
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90s.
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during the war, it was not possible to
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reform the SBU, write Do By the way,
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one lady was very vocal about her about what she
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would do in the Verkhovna Rada, she
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writes and speaks a lot, but did not do anything about this reform. It
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was not possible to reform
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intelligence and make this parliamentary
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committee like the countries NATO is under
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parliamentary control over intelligence by the
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intelligence agencies, why hasn’t it been done, why do you
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understand if Well, they sit there in power and
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think that it’s cool.
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Yes, I say as a person who
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communicates directly with his
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fellow citizens, because you can see who is
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doing what. Yes, there are politicians who
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do a lot of things in private, and they look like that, you
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know.
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they don't do their own thing and this is Well,
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the reform of the TCC, what should be done? Well, we have
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recruiting companies in addition to the military
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units that you mentioned, someone carried out
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within the framework of the state, and someone showed the protection of a
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serviceman if something happens to him.
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Nobody knows everything. Nobody
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knows. it's all fun, it's nice of you, your
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husband died. What a bureaucratic
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hell you have to go through to get these
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payments, no one talks about it,
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right?
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maybe
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the state provided them with housing there, two
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small children, one is now one and a half
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years old Well, just
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imagine a young woman with two children in her
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arms, one and a half years old, that is, what is she doing,
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you won’t go to work because the child is
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still young, they won’t take her to kindergarten, somehow she gets out
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of this situation There are
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many families and we don’t have these programs.
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You see, it’s very interesting here
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in principle. According to the laws, the state does
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everything for a person to go to the army. And for her to
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return and no hell, it’s not done, that
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is, an elementary picture. I’m a sergeant with a
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broken psyche. Yes, who watched everything.
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let's be very angry and I
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'm going back home. Where should I go to see a
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psychologist, are
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you looking? Well, where is the state program that
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produces few psychologists there? The
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Ministry of Education says that it
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will be the prerogative to produce
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these specialists for the next ones at the state's expense.
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if you will have grandmothers I want to occupy
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myself with some kind of work Where can I get a loan
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for my business in the future to open a
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business
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Well, somehow I got into trouble Maybe you will find one,
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but the taxman will come to you who does not
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care about everything And where is the simplified
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taxation, where is the tax reform
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done the same the Cerberians themselves become
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my fighting comrades and a crew comes to him to
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tell about some incomprehensible
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stories of the 21st
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year, his wife says What is
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the director of the company now, my husband is fighting there,
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all you have to do is provide the documentation
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So she was burned in the
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Chernobaivka, no one cares,
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you understand this no,
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and when they talk about the effectiveness of
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our law-making branch of government, I
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set it to zero, similarly to the judicial branch.
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Well, what prevents during a war to
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reform
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the court, to filter? Well, as they say,
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conduct a lustration of judges, yes, to
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filter the courts, to recruit new ones, because there are
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not many people who want this, there are many What
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prevents well, without a fair trial in this country,
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nothing will happen, this is what everyone says is a humbug.
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Good people say it. Listen, you know, I did
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n't even expect that I would tell you
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this, not a counterargument, but as a thesis to
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think about, because recently
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Ukrainian Pravda published a lengthy
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article dedicated to
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the military to political battles And I, but I don't
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want to talk about her, there was an example
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of a public request to fight
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corruption in the Military Committees. The Odesa military was a
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symbol of this corruption. Well, there was a
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political decision to demolish all of them,
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then the hard worker comes and says, Well,
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you guys, now look what everything is bad for me with
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the mobilization, that is, on one
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side, I hit you with a public request,
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what you say as a military person,
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what I can say as a civilian, on the
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other hand, the consequences, and I don’t understand.
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who will come to their place,
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where is the insurance against the fact that it will not be
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new people, do you remember the phrase from the economist,
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one of Zelenskyi's advisers is being
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stolen anonymously, just like on the last day.
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yes, but there is a
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precedent court, but this is not a story about the
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entire judicial system. Yes, it exists, but they are
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working on this topic, and what to do?
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During the two years of the war, a lot of films were released
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that would attract young people to join the army. None of them are
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all old developments. Yes, we have
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someone working on this. The late Lyosha
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Chubasheov probably did the most to
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popularize the Ukrainian army by filming the
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Recruit project. It was a more elegant project.
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the laws with which tax collectors will
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operate are not some kind of norms, but normal
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laws, everyone talks about rights, it's great, there are
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duties. The Constitution consists of
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duties, protecting one's homeland is the
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duty of every citizen. It
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was said, well, now they are trying to
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do something, what do you you can choose
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the specialization you want to go to the army, the
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people are good, the army is not everyone fighting,
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running around with machine guns, and everyone there is half-hearted.
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As they say, the army is a
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huge logistics structure, where you are
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needed. Excuse me, from loaders to
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logisticians, professional drivers who make
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no less a contribution, the army is mechanics who
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repair equipment, assemble, make it
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a rigger Who are the same, these are cooks, these are
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storekeepers, this also goes to the army, and it is
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necessary because the army is built on
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discipline and order, and the army is the
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same state in a state that needs
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different branches of specialists. And recently I
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saw a post from one journalist where
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She asked which journalists are fighting, people
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commented and threw me, I saw through it a
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huge number
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Yes,
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and all professions are important in the army, and I have
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n’t seen a single profession yet
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Elementary, such a rare profession as a
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biotechnologist is also used in the army, how
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much does it take to clean water Nobody
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I didn't think about it and it works. And
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if the army is versatile, there are those who
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want to go. They form a core around them,
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other people join it, and I
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think that when they ask, "Do they forcefully
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take a person to the army, or is it
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right, why is he better than me?" he's
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like me, my mother gave birth to me to
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die in the army or to fight like this oh
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cool Pisyun will fight yes everything
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will be a warrior at once yes this is how it should be or what I
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just can't understand it What are the
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criteria when you see some of
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these clan members who tell how they
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fell how do we have to fight? Well, I
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had an epic one. I'm
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sorry, I said that my time with the so-
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called LGBT community, when I remembered
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the posters that entered their marches, and
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how Livakovskiy were, where were all these young
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people who gave these posters,
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ended abruptly. shut up, well, I
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recently went into the spam folder while I was on my way to
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Kyiv, and here are two such representatives of bright people
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in the literal sense, sitting in Munich,
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talking about what values ​​should be fought for
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in Ukraine, while they are sitting in Munich to
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wait and come
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here, and you
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think there are not many of them among ordinary people I
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just wanted to say that this is also not
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my phrase, Serhii Zhadan
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told me in an interview that the army is a mirror of
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society, which means that there are both
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good guys and pagans, and that is, everyone
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is the same, but I wanted to ask you in general,
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do you know about the situation at the front?
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I have a friend who is an air scout. He
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became a father for the first time last year
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and met his wife. Everything is at
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the front because it is about love and life. It
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generally has a place in the war. Is it some kind of
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momentary emotion because you still
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want to feel alive? I just
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want to understand how does it happen to you?
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I know so many military men who
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got married, but I constantly think that I
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can't make plans there for a week or a month.
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Because I don't
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know, I don't know, rocket, shachet, something else.
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in which you are emotional
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at the front this state you live here and now there are
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a lot of soldiers If you say so
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Well they are held by their significant other their
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family this is the most terrible state in the war It's up to
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you when you die or not
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it exists it's the most terrible state
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when you have stop and you keep something,
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they call you, they write to you, they worry about you, it's
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worth a lot, well,
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frankly, and I'll tell you, Well, from my
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experience, Yes, for example, I have a good
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friend of mine, and she's a sniper in
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one of the elite units, she has
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more than 20 confirmed rams she
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married a ram boy,
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are they from Cadillac or all of them, but
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among those whom you mentioned, there are also those whom
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she married and she is happy here and
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now I have many unmarried boys, for
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example, I am in touch with them They also want to
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get married, but you don't know how it was in
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Peaceful life to get married like that for myself
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to travel not at once So specifically with
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children with everything that is supposed to be you
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know at once fire traz a normal family there is
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such a thing why is this state so call the
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military and in civilians because you
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live here and now everything You are learning to rejoice
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every day after such a hellish
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Armageddon Yes, when they tell there, here is
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patriotism,
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here is your worldview, you know these eyes, all the visions are
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good people, you will throw them out after the first
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mortar shelling, everything goes on instantly,
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the regime sneaks up on you, they
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will survive, they will complete the task and return their
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people whole, that's it, well, that's it it will be very ugly,
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you know, the pathos is not rude, but
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that's how it is. When something is flying towards you
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and then it explodes and you just
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don't understand. Where are you? Well, it's
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very unpleasant to feel it,
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but you have to rejoice in every day, it's
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cool, you
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rejoice in the everyday you know life like that Well, I
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would have thought so or I would have eaten it And you are happy about
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it Wow, because it is something homemade, there is a
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salad of Nizhyn cucumbers today
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with black bread and lard, not dry food Well, that's how it
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works and I'll poop again and
00:20:07
I tell everyone that there are no big volunteers and
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little ones, everyone has a need. Believe me,
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when people from the village bring the same
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can of pickled cucumbers and tomatoes, in
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some cases it is nothing. Worse
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than a thermal imager, believe me, that’s how it is.
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we are talking about what you
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are literally doing at the front, but as far
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as I understand, these are always very
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interesting operations, I can tell you that my
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specialty is
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Peru cheese, I am making dumplings here.
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to ask if it has ever happened that the wife
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calls or writes late, you know how in
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American movies when it happens It
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happens and it happened more than once and she is Mishenka How
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are you? Everything was great with me, it happened a couple of
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times. a
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military doctor. My father
00:21:01
was a military doctor, she somehow
00:21:02
did it right away with his wife. Well, it doesn't always
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work out, it's not just me, it happened,
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but it happened that the sun
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went to combat there for a long time.
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you are a sunshine,
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you are, oh, I
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forgot, tiger cub, something like that, well, it
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never happened, and it’s normal for everyone,
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for example, I have m, in our
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team, yes, everyone has each other,
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they exchanged each member’s
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phone numbers of the girls’ wives and
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parents at every fire station even sometimes
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it happens. We went out there. I didn't have time to
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call back, tell the guys, write,
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tell them that everything is fine so that the man is not worried
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and that the
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wife is worried.
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there was a
00:22:00
clock, it stops, and that is, well,
00:22:02
someone thinks that it is cool in the rear. But you
00:22:04
see traffic jams, you see some holidays. But
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we measure by the emotional state and everything there.
00:22:09
The wife or mother starts to breathe only
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when the child or the man returns, how does
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she cope with it, that's also about it.
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they don't talk very much, well, she told me that she didn't get
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married right away,
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that's fair, and No, I understand her in many
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cases, because she will
00:22:25
never forgive me for some things, for example, for
00:22:27
example,
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when you weren't around,
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why were some men taken to the border
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And you from the second day You were already with a weapon in your
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hands Why didn't you take us out and this
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was an objectively correct assessment Well, why, why did you
00:22:45
get angry, you never had such
00:22:49
questions, well, I understand her like no one else, she
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left by herself to a country she had never been to
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with a small
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child, well, it is objectively correct how
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she copes. She is a very intelligent
00:23:01
woman, she also studied and received a second
00:23:03
higher education in psychology. It probably helped her a lot,
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but I know that most
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military personnel still have this fear after a long breakup.
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How will your family perceive you?
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Yes. that we are changing because sometimes you either stay
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up at night and walk like
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Hamlet's tnyatsa or scream in the spring, this happens and you are
00:23:28
afraid of scaring someone and injuring someone with it,
00:23:30
etc. it will still be a problem to get out,
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good people, don't you think that this war is
00:23:34
over and everything will be hooray, we
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will pamper her for another 30 years, and
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how many men will return with
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flashbacks that they will not be able
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to control, you understand, we have a huge
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gap, probably a gap with
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those who will return under the Soviet Union,
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there was some kind of system for those Afghans,
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they were forced to undergo physical
00:23:58
examinations there is no time for this. And it is necessary
00:24:00
for a person to at least examine her
00:24:03
and say, well, bro, you have such and such
00:24:05
problems, so-and-so medically, so you can
00:24:07
go to a specialist, a person should
00:24:09
have a choice So that he knows where to
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turn, and with us, well, let's not
00:24:13
go ATO experience And I got a certificate from Federzey, we do
00:24:17
n't need it, we don't need a
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father. You know, I'm looking at how
00:24:24
my memory works. I remember very few events
00:24:26
from last year. I hardly
00:24:28
remember February 24, and I think that this is
00:24:30
just like that, psychology is built for
00:24:32
self-defense, and you have it every day. Well,
00:24:35
now you have a vacation and such a UAZ, like a
00:24:38
normal life. But you have seen
00:24:42
a lot, and what do you do with this memory? Does
00:24:44
it also go to self-cleansing, or are there
00:24:47
things that are impossible you will never forget
00:24:51
what you will never
00:24:52
forget in the spring you will be talking to someone
00:24:55
you will sit like this you know stuck in
00:24:58
you memories call to mind you are
00:25:01
getting out of work work books I started to read
00:25:04
a lot of the late
00:25:06
kessanger diplomacy I am rereading the time
00:25:09
quite interesting book to understand how
00:25:11
they perceive us including
00:25:15
work
00:25:19
you're trying to get fit there, you're going to have
00:25:21
sex there, you're going to do it, you need to, you
00:25:25
need to, maybe the store will drive such an ulya-la, there's
00:25:28
some [ __ ] in the car, it needs to be
00:25:31
fixed. And the fact that it hasn't been washed for
00:25:33
six months, it's already a mess and it's all on you
00:25:35
It's great and you get loaded and somehow it
00:25:38
transforms but hides sometimes hides my beloved
00:25:41
hides I frankly tell you a lot You
00:25:44
told the truth it was seen and it
00:25:47
is imprinted
00:25:49
and human nature is such that it is imprinted
00:25:52
the worst the best somehow it flies out of
00:25:54
your head Unfortunately it is the most difficult
00:25:59
to give of these
00:26:02
after the deoccupation of Bochi, Sergey
00:26:04
Loiko was an American journalist and he
00:26:06
simply recounted what he
00:26:07
saw. I didn’t see it, but he
00:26:09
told all the famous stories and what he
00:26:12
found in what state our
00:26:15
people were in. He talked about
00:26:18
how he was a Russian for a long time he literally
00:26:23
held a woman there, he raped her, he lived with her there,
00:26:26
and her mother was sick here, and she says that he
00:26:30
offered her to this girl, he says come with
00:26:32
us when they were leaving, and she understood
00:26:34
that he was just going to kill her. She says, I don't
00:26:36
know, I don't maybe I'm sick. Mom, well,
00:26:38
he shot my mom right there in front of her, and of
00:26:41
course when he was telling me that,
00:26:43
I remember. It was a year and a half ago to
00:26:46
this day. I'll remember it all my
00:26:48
life. I haven't seen it. You
00:26:49
understand me just about this
00:26:51
I know what knowledge is the most difficult for you
00:26:54
to live with now Because these are civilians These are your
00:26:56
military friends who now will always have a
00:26:59
postscript were there lived and fought And you
00:27:03
will no longer talk to them as in the
00:27:04
future state, that is, in the time that the most difficult
00:27:07
of this
00:27:09
was friends friends I have my best man, who
00:27:14
died, we have known him since the first day of
00:27:15
our institute, we ate from the same bowl, I
00:27:18
baptized his
00:27:20
daughter, this is a friend, a friend that you do
00:27:24
not perceive in the past state,
00:27:27
Lsha Bashev was filmed by Sasha Makhav. There were also a
00:27:32
number of other lesser-known friends people too, Friends
00:27:36
Well, pictures of children killed in front of your eyes
00:27:39
quite often,
00:27:40
and the recognition of
00:27:43
those who were your comrades, well, you find it in the package,
00:27:46
you have to
00:27:48
recognize such a thing happened and it does not let you sleep, it will
00:27:51
not go away, it just needs to be put out,
00:27:53
somehow later it will be, and I
00:27:56
understand more and more often
00:27:59
what do you understand, they are now erasing the
00:28:02
traces of the Russians. Well, the same is true of Mariupol. Yes,
00:28:05
we do not know how many were killed there. Some
00:28:08
analysts say that more than 100,000. I
00:28:11
agree with this in reality.
00:28:25
to
00:28:28
cohabitation by force because of this, we do
00:28:31
n't see this right now in the territory of Kherson
00:28:33
Zaporozhye region, it will come to us.
00:28:35
If anyone thinks that there was less in Kharkiv Oblast, do
00:28:37
you remember the horror of the raisin when you went in and
00:28:41
saw it? Well, how many more bucherpenes
00:28:43
will you have? Imagine on those territories,
00:28:48
therefore, the same, the same Melitopol, the
00:28:51
same Chaplinka, the same point-blank range,
00:28:54
Skadovsk Well, in our country, no one went
00:28:57
into something that does not exist, everyone talks about the
00:28:59
Bakhmut fortress, the truth is a song, nobody
00:29:02
talks about the Popasna fortress, and there
00:29:05
were battles there at the beginning of the war maybe there are
00:29:08
no brighter cities Volnovakha does not
00:29:10
exist they took Yes now Maryanka does not exist
00:29:14
Bakhmut does not exist in fact Severodonetsk
00:29:17
Leschansk there is nothing left and what do you
00:29:22
think will be better with Vasylivka there
00:29:26
takmak Volnovahay yes I
00:29:29
doubt it very much that is, if there will be these too
00:29:33
such deep wounds that we will
00:29:36
feel and see for a long time. That is,
00:29:42
God willing, after the deoccupation we will see a lot of
00:29:45
things. And the crimes of the 14th and 15th years were
00:29:49
terrible, and there were no less of them in the Crimea.
00:29:53
How do you feel about the idea of ​​a
00:29:56
sperm bank and
00:29:58
Oksana Korchynska told us, we
00:30:00
also talked with her about mobilization and about
00:30:03
advice that more young people are needed at the front and
00:30:06
she says, well, yes, but when
00:30:09
you have the body of a 20-year-old boy or a
00:30:11
21-year-old in front of you, it is very difficult and not because
00:30:14
you are 45 or 35 less it's a pity, but simply because,
00:30:18
most likely, a more mature person has
00:30:20
something and someone, she left a mark, a
00:30:23
20-year-old boy, he has not lived anything yet,
00:30:25
and there is an idea, you know, well, we will have a
00:30:29
crazy problem, we can
00:30:31
talk endlessly about the problems of the future and it will be
00:30:33
even more than now, the story is
00:30:36
to leave at least the gene of this young
00:30:39
generation that went to Africa.
00:30:48
does not
00:30:52
hold the brain is not yet working Is it true
00:30:57
or do we have it? I think it is right that we started
00:30:59
mobilization from the seniors, the brain is not working yet, it is not
00:31:02
yet developed enough, it is the instinct of
00:31:06
self-defense, self-preservation in the youth. It is
00:31:09
true, it is already two years from now.
00:31:12
besides, yes, it's
00:31:16
normal, we live in modern
00:31:19
realities, in principle, and it's normal in the West.
00:31:22
Why is it not normal in our country? Well,
00:31:25
we're not Archykhs, sorry. We have women, yes. They are the ones
00:31:27
who will go there, the Chinese will
00:31:29
impregnate them.
00:31:34
And similarly, without
00:31:36
problems, our women have always known their
00:31:38
value, this is a fact, there are also Cossack proverbs like
00:31:41
how a father will say yes to his mother and it will be.
00:31:49
Praise
00:31:51
and honor to him,
00:31:52
does the state love the Ukrainian
00:31:56
military, and you said that there are
00:31:58
problems there and they are absolutely obvious, but there are
00:32:01
everyday things, I'm sure you've seen this
00:32:04
story that the military
00:32:06
makes great money And why are there fees, why are there
00:32:10
anything else And so on they clothe them, feed them, and
00:32:12
continue according to the text What is on you from the state,
00:32:15
but we are moving on, let’s give
00:32:21
8,000 botylova live for
00:32:23
your termukhs to the Ukrainians Yes, your pants are
00:32:28
all yours, I’ll say more, I’m
00:32:31
fighting with mine with my rifle And where is
00:32:34
the state’s There is also a set that
00:32:37
is given out, pants, socks, gas mask, a
00:32:39
set of clothing, number one.
00:32:44
Well, you tried to get it,
00:32:48
you are coming, but there is one in the warehouse, but there is no
00:32:52
coat in your size. Well, it happens.
00:33:01
last year, winter boots were issued with Turkish
00:33:04
[ __ ]. I have a question that Talans can no longer
00:33:07
produce or that Talan is a cool,
00:33:09
normal shoe, I’m really talking about it,
00:33:11
where is it? Well, someone who pulled this scandal when
00:33:16
asking the minister with a Turkish accent
00:33:18
should burn in hell, why don’t you? I understand,
00:33:21
they spread in two months, and
00:33:23
they began to flow in the second
00:33:25
week. That is, well, it's all healthy,
00:33:28
someone's truth, well, I always thought that it is
00:33:30
not profitable for the state to have a sick soldier,
00:33:33
because you pay him a starling, he
00:33:35
must be provided for.
00:33:40
I was wrong. And what is a state, a state for
00:33:42
me is just those people who help with
00:33:44
meetings, who help to solve
00:33:46
urgent issues, those who donate,
00:33:48
hand over preservation, hand over knitted
00:33:50
naski, this is the state for me. of the
00:34:00
military, well, of the profile
00:34:04
committee And when the veterans are already shouting, the
00:34:07
military, yes, the SBU, take care of it, the SBU, you know what we have.
00:34:10
And how much does a
00:34:13
month of comfortable, pleasant
00:34:17
life cost you in the resorts of the Zaporizhia,
00:34:20
Kherson, Donetsk regions, so
00:34:22
how much is a month of what you
00:34:25
spend?
00:34:27
you don't update constantly, but still there
00:34:29
are some needs, look, let's
00:34:32
say, any income from
00:34:35
the financial military is divided into two types, the so-
00:34:36
called combat and salary, my salary
00:34:39
is stable, my salary goes to my
00:34:42
wife, well, I'm sorry, well, I have a family,
00:34:45
no one knows the rays of the sun can't do
00:34:50
30,000 wives, you have
00:34:54
90 to 100 left there, yes, you start a diesel engine for your own
00:34:57
money, you need to buy something else, and there is something
00:34:59
broken, you need to fix it in
00:35:02
any way, taking into account the fact that my car
00:35:04
drives 9 dashes, 10 km in two months,
00:35:09
oil filter constantly this is a need, there are
00:35:12
general discounts on Drones for fpvikh are going, and there is another
00:35:16
separate article, you will arrange for funerals
00:35:20
for the wounded constantly.
00:35:30
that everything
00:35:32
I receive is called that, except for the salary
00:35:34
from the army, it actually remains in the army,
00:35:36
and if you simply compare it there
00:35:40
with 14-15 years, it is not so visible now,
00:35:43
yes. And when they say, Oh, you are rich military people,
00:35:47
if someone is not in the know, go there further
00:35:50
pavlagrad, if you are a military person,
00:35:52
you can be ripped off three
00:35:53
skins, well, that's a fact. Well, it's quite strange. Well, I
00:35:58
understand that this is a world practice. The airbase of
00:36:01
Reimshine Reimstein is such a large and
00:36:04
prosperous place due to the fact that
00:36:06
they rip off American soldiers. of
00:36:11
the army, there are
00:36:16
soldiers and officers Oh,
00:36:18
good people, you are, we haven't counted the medicine yet,
00:36:22
because in two years you have accumulated, oh,
00:36:24
a lot, that's interesting, when you say a person with
00:36:26
TPP,
00:36:27
it's in terms of health, they also start getting out,
00:36:29
you know what's prescribed for
00:36:31
back pain,
00:36:34
protruzi, constant armor
00:36:36
the knees start to lick the cuckoo
00:36:39
after concussions, it also helps, and runny noses,
00:36:43
those runny noses, coughs, cracked ribs that are
00:36:47
growing too. It sucks, you are like a
00:36:48
tubercular cough, and you still say people, my ribs are
00:36:50
cracked,
00:36:53
no, don't be afraid of me, everything is fine,
00:36:56
medical examination, too, blood, hepatitis, that's
00:36:59
all you think free of charge No
00:37:02
people, we don't do it well, and in
00:37:04
most cases you come home. You will
00:37:06
go to the health clinic on time
00:37:08
because it is in the state, but you have
00:37:11
a voucher and it will be in a
00:37:13
month, and you need a fluorography, a CT scan,
00:37:17
maybe an MRI, and you
00:37:19
will be fine. maybe I'll ask you about something that
00:37:21
maybe you won't like very much, it's the same
00:37:24
topic of corruption, it's everywhere
00:37:26
our colleague is now also fighting, he's fighting in a
00:37:29
very difficult direction
00:37:31
and he's already in a private conversation here on
00:37:35
vacation, he says again he made a
00:37:37
reference to the phrase What is being stolen? Like on the
00:37:40
last day, but he says that this is a story
00:37:42
not only about the president's office or about
00:37:45
officials, he says they turned to volunteers, they
00:37:48
asked for a bath complex, let's say for
00:37:51
civilians that you need somewhere to wash and
00:37:53
wash things, a week goes by, two
00:37:56
go by, the military go to the
00:37:58
volunteers they say Well, if something is not so
00:38:00
simple, tell me, they say, dudes Well, two
00:38:02
days have passed, we handed everything over to you, well,
00:38:04
we handed it over to Whom command
00:38:08
Well, then, of course, Well, somewhere there are all these
00:38:10
washing machines, and that’s
00:38:11
all you steal, I don’t know what rank Yes,
00:38:15
but you steal in They are your
00:38:17
boys, you can go with them or not
00:38:20
go on an assault, and it just seems to me
00:38:22
that even if they are not your relatives or
00:38:25
close friends, but your heart must
00:38:27
empathize with those who steal in Kyiv,
00:38:30
they are far from the front, and they
00:38:32
will always think that they are saving their lives,
00:38:33
not the country. We heard the conversation of one
00:38:36
people's deputy there, who said that Kharkiv
00:38:38
will be taken over, what should be
00:38:40
agreed there, how can the military
00:38:44
do this? There are three categories
00:38:47
of commanders: Adita, no one has
00:38:52
ever
00:38:53
seen him there, the real commander is the father, the
00:38:57
commander - He is the one who will try to
00:38:58
provide to the best of his ability, and
00:39:00
father - He is the one
00:39:01
who strains the volunteers to the last pants.
00:39:20
if all those generals
00:39:23
whom you now see in
00:39:27
Tarnavskiy naev are slaving away. They didn't tell
00:39:31
you where they started this war
00:39:34
with colonels, lieutenant colonels. Some of the
00:39:39
majors, I still remember Sabka like a
00:39:43
major when he received the national
00:39:45
hero. And now he is a
00:39:48
general. that's what I'm
00:39:52
talking about, they grew up in it and they see
00:39:54
the need for a soldier, I'll tell you that, for
00:39:55
example,
00:39:57
everyone I had the honor of
00:40:02
communicating with in this generalship was
00:40:04
much easier, more productive and of better quality
00:40:07
than with many mobilized
00:40:10
major generals because they are all
00:40:13
stages passed and they know that Well, I did
00:40:15
n't write for nothing that it was sergeant's day, and one
00:40:19
commander whom I respect extremely much, I love,
00:40:21
he said a brilliant phrase, I
00:40:23
will give five young lieutenants for one intelligent sergeant, that's
00:40:29
it, you understand, we are all different People are
00:40:33
different, but if so to say when
00:40:37
your body was taken from you, somewhere near you,
00:40:41
you can still protest something, take it
00:40:44
Back, re-educate a person, when you are
00:40:48
being rubbed here and there, it won't even
00:40:51
reach you, then you understand that, well, we'll put a soul to the body.
00:40:56
Yes, well, we don't have so many
00:41:01
bodies and souls. to lay We are not Russians who have
00:41:04
already laid more than 25,000 to the Podavdos
00:41:07
Well, that's what everyone says, oh what a loss,
00:41:11
so how much have they lost under the bahmat, they
00:41:13
rubbed themselves in and moved on, they will continue to
00:41:15
overwhelm us with meat and that's a fact And
00:41:19
they still don't understand why Well It is certain that
00:41:24
many people in our country say things like, Why
00:41:26
weren't the positions dug up there, and someone
00:41:28
changed the legislation? And you know that a
00:41:30
vayak can't come anywhere he
00:41:33
needs to and dig up. Well, it's private
00:41:35
property or state property, and you'll
00:41:38
be fine. immediately, the prosecutor will come
00:41:40
later and say, “Did you violate state
00:41:43
property, did you cause trouble, or did you
00:41:46
cut down a plantation there, these were forest plantations,
00:41:49
I am not looking for criminal cases against you.
00:42:01
They tell me what
00:42:03
kind of people they are. I will frankly say that there are many. For
00:42:07
example, the inforna team,
00:42:09
many of them wanted to bend under
00:42:12
themselves under the previous government and the current one. I
00:42:15
can too. If you want to tell you who
00:42:17
the minister
00:42:19
asked, the SBU
00:42:22
then and the prosecutor's office
00:42:27
told me now and now. how do we have to
00:42:30
live? Yes, even there, the men tried, well, if
00:42:34
you are poor, why are you independent, thank
00:42:36
God, and when the election came, even before the 24th, I
00:42:40
gathered my team, where will we go, they will
00:42:42
defend who was there, you could
00:42:45
choose the SBU
00:42:47
men, the DPSU, the ZSU, or forgive me, Lord
00:42:52
we
00:42:53
all decided that we would go after Su, why because I
00:42:57
have a
00:42:59
certain image and you know all the other questions that were
00:43:03
asked to me. You even asked why are you, where are you
00:43:05
with a sergeant, why not an officer, I explain
00:43:08
that in the unit in which I
00:43:11
served a junior lieutenant is already faxtro, there is
00:43:14
already a full-fledged group commander, a
00:43:17
bunch of young people are coming who are making a
00:43:19
career and occupying someone else's place - this is
00:43:23
low, I tell everyone frankly.
00:43:33
when
00:43:35
the boys come back from the war, they will go to the Council and
00:43:37
restore order, and what are you doing now?
00:43:41
Well, you voted for a carrion for buckwheat,
00:43:43
they chose some [ __ ] or a [ __ ] in
00:43:45
Obolon, and now you And how did this happen, I
00:43:48
'm sorry, good people. What do we have in our
00:43:50
generation? and to
00:43:51
provide you with a normal life, well, it’s not
00:43:53
so interesting that people on the ground
00:43:56
feel that you are more honest than they are because
00:44:00
they rely on you for their efforts
00:44:01
but hopes
00:44:10
Yarosh, too, somehow reflecting on
00:44:13
what was happening, he wrote, if very
00:44:15
briefly, He will not create an idol for himself, and
00:44:17
that type, well, you must understand that a
00:44:20
hostage is, first of
00:44:23
all, for you, you said that there are three
00:44:26
ranks or three different types of commanders, who is
00:44:28
he and whether now you don't think that they are creating
00:44:31
some kind of idol. I have great respect
00:44:33
for our commander-in-chief.
00:44:35
Everything that is happening hurts me a lot, but
00:44:38
we are the same. of the
00:44:46
events that are
00:44:49
taking place now, I have known Valery
00:44:51
Fedorovich since 2016, when I was still a
00:44:54
volunteer, and when some people asked in
00:44:57
volunteer circles who to choose, the
00:44:59
candidates were very interesting, there
00:45:02
were also the candidates of Maysyuka and
00:45:08
they whispered to many others, but when they asked
00:45:11
about zaluzhno, I said that
00:45:14
we saw it for the first time a new type of officer
00:45:17
for the general in Ukraine is not a
00:45:20
soviet one, the one who listens to subordinates, the one
00:45:22
who finds time for subordinates and is
00:45:24
quite sophisticated
00:45:27
and the least
00:45:28
media-oriented and a lot.
00:45:45
the fact
00:45:47
is simple We are facing a war in our country Taran
00:45:51
the Minister of Defense Khamchak the Chief of
00:45:53
the General Staff we would have resisted so
00:45:58
their reputation would be difficult Well we are
00:46:00
all alone I will tell you what happened
00:46:02
Prikhamchak mimut barricades arrows piled up
00:46:04
our soldiers the story is that for the sake of
00:46:06
justice, after all, we
00:46:08
speak about the start of a full-scale
00:46:10
invasion, this is a kind of social force of all those
00:46:13
people who were not involved in the war, and
00:46:16
then the
00:46:17
generals, the
00:46:21
generals, the
00:46:22
intelligence of the generals of the general staff, strategy and
00:46:26
so on. That is, I. Let's say
00:46:29
another moment, Luluzhny from his first
00:46:30
interview said that we are preparing for the
00:46:32
Great War It will be difficult for us, we will
00:46:34
suffer losses, but we have to prepare, but
00:46:37
from the first moments we saved all the air defense, some of us saved the
00:46:40
planes,
00:46:42
thanks to which we were not driven into the
00:46:46
cauldron, then in the east of Ukraine, the
00:46:48
troops stood their ground and stretched their troops and
00:46:51
orders and stood their ground. it was
00:46:53
calculated and there were people about it now you know they don't
00:46:56
read interviews in us they want to
00:46:58
think what they are reading it was said there were
00:47:00
team games held there there there
00:47:02
in those directions and from the first day Who
00:47:04
came to Valeriy Fedorovych Viktor
00:47:06
Mykolayovych is a person whom
00:47:07
Muzhenko respects immensely the fact that he was
00:47:10
harassed for his interview from the
00:47:12
president's office is a fact that remains a fact,
00:47:16
but these are two people who have done an
00:47:18
extraordinary amount plus those and about this he
00:47:21
says diligently plus those colonels
00:47:24
generals Officers and soldiers on the ground who
00:47:27
performed the tasks of the General Staff are
00:47:30
also involved I never said that I would enter the
00:47:32
Crimea at that time, grandfather, he does not set
00:47:35
the timing of anything, and believe me, it was possible to
00:47:38
put a bunch of people in some places and
00:47:40
achieve your
00:47:41
goals,
00:47:44
but nevertheless, you understand a lot
00:47:47
in us now. There is a tendency to blame
00:47:51
everything on the military in order to
00:47:52
whitens, however, the question What was
00:47:55
done before
00:47:57
24.0222 remains open and
00:48:00
it still has a lot of nonsense and
00:48:04
resonances in this
00:48:06
preparation and the fact that some receive
00:48:10
punishment And some leave it if
00:48:14
Kulinich was convicted in our country yes Naumov was taken
00:48:17
yes roughly speaking and why is there no Chief
00:48:20
Lieutenant Bakanov does not bear any responsibility,
00:48:23
he hired them, he did it.
00:48:26
Excuse me, we are talking about
00:48:28
social equality and the fact that
00:48:30
punishment is inevitable under the law. So where is that all? Well,
00:48:33
why do I have to look at it?
00:48:41
in the president's office there
00:48:43
Tymoshenko fired Bohdan, where are all these
00:48:46
beautiful young people, why aren't they at
00:48:48
the front, it's because the gold reserve of our nation is
00:48:51
in the Banks are closed somewhere Why didn't they
00:48:54
receive a summons and go to fight Yes,
00:48:57
with him and this Kyril Tymoshenko, he would have
00:48:59
me in I didn’t fight in the unit there. Well,
00:49:00
I wouldn’t bother with it. Where should I dress
00:49:02
dudes? How do I find a gas station? Where can I get a car?
00:49:05
I’m sure that if his ass was somewhere in the
00:49:07
relative rear, he would organize it all,
00:49:09
and there were dozens of such
00:49:11
people. Where are all these people? What kind of equality are we
00:49:13
talking about in we have a war in the countryside,
00:49:16
excuse me, in our district centers and regional
00:49:19
centers, if Major went to war,
00:49:21
it’s a miracle,
00:49:25
I wrote to a couple of rectors, I also have a director of a
00:49:26
company, a couple of them are fighting, so they are from the
00:49:29
first days and they don’t know about it they say,
00:49:31
and here we already have some three short-haired
00:49:34
singers, our soldiers took pictures somewhere,
00:49:38
two years after the beginning of the
00:49:40
large-scale invasion, it
00:49:42
entered the army, now the ladybug and yes
00:49:44
yo-moyo, well, what is it?
00:49:47
we have
00:49:50
an imbalance. Well, I have another question.
00:49:54
Look, I asked it to Stefanchuk, I
00:49:57
asked it to
00:49:59
Arachami, I asked it to other leaders,
00:50:02
Karenichuk, to all the leaders of the Verkhovna
00:50:04
Rada, flacks, servants, people, how many
00:50:07
assistants of people's deputies, factions,
00:50:09
servants of the people, to fight?
00:50:14
with the same
00:50:16
voice, yes, no number, well, I know, for
00:50:20
example, a deputy who has four
00:50:24
assistants fighting from the first
00:50:27
days and fighting and everything is fine. Well, if so, why is there
00:50:31
such an inequality? Well, why is it possible to have one
00:50:33
and not others? I don’t know how you get nervous
00:50:37
at the front. Well, maybe you get nervous because you are
00:50:39
busy And I will explain to you what is the nerve and And
00:50:42
what is the point of this piece of [ __ ], what a piece of fat to
00:50:45
come to the front, let it
00:50:47
first go to a training school, learn to
00:50:50
belch there, get some
00:50:53
knowledge from it, they will form the first time of its
00:50:54
shelling, then we will look at it
00:50:57
so you know not so and so And so already Well, how about an
00:51:00
equal? ​​Not with me. By the way, I recently had
00:51:03
a meeting in Kyiv. I happened to see someone at a gas station.
00:51:06
Say yes. Forgive me, Lord,
00:51:09
the blogger who poured [ __ ] on me, what
00:51:12
kind of a fool you are, and you pulled your hand, I
00:51:14
say, I'm not healthy. with people who do not
00:51:16
fight for their country. Well, listen to our
00:51:19
army in general. Well, if you say that the
00:51:22
military should be brought down. Well, look, we have the
00:51:25
president's office, a huge structure. Yes, they
00:51:28
try to comment on all the events there,
00:51:30
whoever can. Yes, I have a big question.
00:51:33
Look, how many in this office of the
00:51:35
president, people have a military
00:51:37
education. Mashavets is one of the public ones, yes,
00:51:41
Yarmaka does not have a higher education. I read
00:51:43
the office of the president there. Shurma
00:51:45
is telling something, simple Lord, a bearded woman,
00:51:47
Leshchenko was telling something that I have.
00:51:53
there is a year how to
00:51:55
fight and that there is no
00:51:57
war, now this person will tell
00:52:00
how to conduct mobilization, this is a very big
00:52:02
problem We have military and
00:52:05
military, well,
00:52:07
people who have nothing to do with the army are trying to comment on the military,
00:52:09
and this is a global
00:52:12
information problem, and journalists are
00:52:14
interviewing them And tell us
00:52:16
what will happen there. And what will he tell you? He will take you away.
00:52:22
Well, that's the problem that we have now,
00:52:26
with the beginning of this kind of
00:52:27
chaos in the information space, such
00:52:29
morons come who
00:52:32
comment on such things, and you sit and think, God.
00:52:35
Well, for me, an expert is
00:52:37
always called an expert - this is a person who has a
00:52:39
professional education, who has experience in this field,
00:52:43
who is recognized as an authority among others in
00:52:46
this field, this is an expert,
00:52:48
then you want to become a journalist. You also
00:52:51
studied, you studied, excuse me.
00:52:55
something and
00:52:57
then I just became a journalist and
00:52:58
then famous people started coming to you
00:53:00
so you are a specialist You are already an
00:53:03
expert Well with
00:53:05
us I'm just you know Well excuse me I'm thinking my
00:53:09
ear And nothing good The more we
00:53:12
dig the more you know the questions on my tongue
00:53:15
about how much and How long it
00:53:20
can last before the heap how long we can
00:53:23
last how much how much
00:53:25
How long I am a woman, you know how
00:53:28
they joke about me, they joke that the hours are running away I
00:53:30
think you know this this joke and while
00:53:34
these particles are running away They are running away for
00:53:35
everyone and for the state and for the young
00:53:37
generation and for you, because what did you say that it
00:53:40
will be hard to read about the prospects, yes,
00:53:44
it is not about two or three weeks or about the summer in the
00:53:46
Crimea, but still you know about some feeling,
00:53:49
someone says that this war is with us for
00:53:51
decades, someone says Yes, no until the
00:53:54
presidential elections in the United
00:53:55
States of America. I don't believe it. Not the first, not the
00:53:57
second. I live there for a short time, you know,
00:54:00
for a week or a month. I'll see how it
00:54:02
develops. I don't know how much longer. I don't know.
00:54:05
You can. It should end by July of
00:54:07
next year. Any plans? Yes. because
00:54:10
I've had enough. I've blown three mushroom seasons.
00:54:11
I already want to go for mushrooms,
00:54:13
frankly.
00:54:25
we had
00:54:27
anti-terrorist operation, it can be, it can be
00:54:30
reformatted, it is frozen,
00:54:32
the war is going on, but in any
00:54:34
Ukrainian district, they could tell you
00:54:36
what kind of war we have, and militarily, well, you see,
00:54:38
we have had a war for 10 years, and many
00:54:40
have felt that it lasted for 10 years no,
00:54:43
much less, of course. And now, well, maybe he will
00:54:47
feel more. Well, you understand that the question is
00:54:49
that, OK, victory has come, what is next,
00:54:53
and then we need to invest more money in the
00:54:56
army so that our children do not
00:54:58
repeat our path. The task of the army, I will
00:55:02
reveal a terrible secret, it is to prevent
00:55:04
war She should be present. And if they
00:55:07
destroyed our army for 30 years, everyone was watching.
00:55:09
Oh, the intercontinental
00:55:12
bombers dusted everything so well, that
00:55:14
kind of thing, but the people had work to
00:55:17
dismantle it, or, well, those who lived so well, but they
00:55:20
took away their military town,
00:55:22
there will now be a pioneer camp. and that the
00:55:25
pioneer camp will become easier for everyone when our
00:55:28
society will look at the army not as,
00:55:31
as you know, they say it is an extra mouth, but as the
00:55:34
main investment in their
00:55:36
security, as it is in the States, as it is in Israel,
00:55:40
as it is happening in Poland then we
00:55:42
have the right to exist as a
00:55:44
nation even after the war. We have
00:55:47
nowhere to go, as this
00:55:49
post-war potential is necessary.
00:55:58
I dream, when
00:56:00
they mention America, that we have such
00:56:02
self-respect for the military, but not in
00:56:04
words, we all believe in the armed forces of
00:56:06
Ukraine, but endlessly when you see
00:56:09
people in military uniform or simply
00:56:11
understand that it is a military veteran there, so that
00:56:13
everyone understands how much we are in the Great I
00:56:16
owe you, I am extremely
00:56:19
proud of the fact that I know you, and if you
00:56:22
asked me about the categories of good people,
00:56:24
I would say that the military for me is a
00:56:26
number, first the military and then all the
00:56:29
others. Because I don't know, you are very special, how
00:56:33
can you sacrifice everything to everything
00:56:36
you have, do n't be at home, don't be with your child,
00:56:39
with your wife, and I'm there. You don't know
00:56:43
my operators, you don't know, but you
00:56:45
protect us. I don't know, you just
00:56:47
know some for me in a good way.
00:56:49
and not like us. Well,
00:56:53
you understand, if
00:56:55
the first priority is that you
00:56:57
go. Well, who was I talking to? You are not going for
00:57:00
an idea. You are going to defend something of your own. Then it
00:57:03
turns into some kind of
00:57:05
idea. The problem is that
00:57:10
now this layer of
00:57:14
separation of the military from the
00:57:17
civilians has already begun. You are the military. I'm
00:57:20
turning to the military, I'm turning to the
00:57:23
veterans, they're already trying to
00:57:26
separate us, and if you create a bubble around this
00:57:29
movement of attack, which they
00:57:31
themselves will live to fight, it will then
00:57:33
explode and there will be a new one,
00:57:35
so I say to you, good people, work
00:57:38
in the rear in order to we had a place to
00:57:41
return to, so that we did not have a
00:57:45
richer Afghan syndrome in
00:57:47
Afghanistan, how many people were fighting there
00:57:49
compared to now, and what were the losses there
00:57:52
15,000
00:57:55
15,000 in Bakhmut Katsap, how many did they put
00:57:59
two Afghanistans in Avdeivka, still count
00:58:02
and in Popasne Nobody says how long
00:58:05
ago, if we don't want to have the Afghan
00:58:08
syndrome, then it will be sad, that is, we have to
00:58:11
work already,
00:58:13
and you understand,
00:58:15
if Ukrainians always controlled the government, it is
00:58:19
not the government of the Ukrainians, and that's normal. What
00:58:22
has already grown in us thanks to the Revolution of
00:58:25
Dignity,
00:58:26
thanks to the first war, then the so-called
00:58:30
ATO, and now during the second great war,
00:58:32
we have grown a stratum of society,
00:58:35
which is society, you know, is not biomass,
00:58:38
as there are in the factories, those Belarusians are the same.
00:58:41
This is a powerful force, as it will be in our
00:58:45
children, too, that it will not happen anywhere,
00:58:48
good people, remember, there are no good Russians,
00:58:50
they do not
00:58:52
exist the same libera, and the same thing, this whole
00:58:55
solution. These are the same imperialists for Western
00:58:58
money, simply if the Belarusian position
00:59:01
is represented by these, give the day, and with a
00:59:03
begging hand, who cannot unite
00:59:05
for a great real goal, but they simply
00:59:07
quarreled among themselves and each of They
00:59:09
travel around the country, including in Ukraine,
00:59:11
begging for money, yes. And when you look at
00:59:14
these Russians, forgive
00:59:16
the oppositionists who beg for money
00:59:17
because our children will cry. Let them
00:59:19
freeze, go work hard so they don’t
00:59:22
freeze, then be careful, because they are all
00:59:24
poor and miserable. buryatkie o
00:59:27
positioners went to Kazakhstan and they are
00:59:29
now looking for money to come after the
00:59:31
end of the war in Ukraine
00:59:33
attention to find out and investigate the crimes of the
00:59:36
Ukrainian military against the Buryats
00:59:38
quote because many of the crimes are
00:59:40
attributed to the Buryats it is
00:59:42
very, very
00:59:44
illegal this is after Buch Irpenya
00:59:47
motyzhina after official reports
00:59:49
The General Staff about just robberies in Tokmak and
00:59:52
Melitopol are connected with this comrade,
00:59:54
here you are, all the Russian imperials, and God forbid,
00:59:57
after the war, this shushra will start coming
00:59:59
here, and then it will be bad, because those
01:00:03
who fought against her will simply
01:00:04
tear the lid off, in my opinion, they went to
01:00:07
the borders In 1991, we made our
01:00:11
Manerheim line and banned entry and banned
01:00:15
entry to everyone like that. There are cases where
01:00:18
people want to come. Let the commission specially
01:00:20
consider these cases. The same
01:00:23
should be done with Belarusians and the same with
01:00:25
Armenians. Do you want that? or not
01:00:27
I like your idea Misha, and
01:00:30
finally, I offer you only you have
01:00:33
the number of the hostage Let's call him,
01:00:36
can't the sergeant call the general of
01:00:40
the armed forces of Ukraine, however, there is already a gift for you,
01:00:43
please, this is the promised flag,
01:00:47
it's true I know what I promised you I
01:00:50
will say more
01:00:51
that I know many people who have him.
01:00:54
Valery Fedorvych is trying to
01:00:56
answer,
01:00:57
but there are things that are inappropriate, I do not bother. I
01:01:08
always think about how
01:01:12
to stimulate the audience, we give something there,
01:01:13
we play it, it is what will remain
01:01:16
for me. I think that,
01:01:18
well, you know how we cheer with all our hearts
01:01:21
for our victory, for the armed forces of
01:01:23
Ukraine deserved it, in short, I
01:01:25
will not share this with anyone, please forgive
01:01:27
me now our the audience is sure that
01:01:29
everyone will be on good terms Now I will
01:01:32
give you a couple of sets of cards from the
01:01:35
inforna palm of those leges and you will play them
01:01:39
Misha, I am happy to see you today, you are
01:01:41
for us the
01:01:42
personification of all boys and girls and who are
01:01:46
currently fighting winter is a terrible test,
01:01:49
friends if you, like me, sympathize with
01:01:52
Mykhailo Makaruk and other members of our military,
01:01:55
don't forget to
01:01:56
pass on the information to the palm of your hand, the guys are doing
01:01:58
some incredible work, they also
01:02:01
need help, especially since they are also
01:02:03
at the front, they are also
01:02:05
fighting, which means they
01:02:06
are doing double work and we will be very grateful if you
01:02:09
support us today, it is very important for us
01:02:11
that our
01:02:13
sunshine Kotyk and Mykhailo, how are you? I'm on the
01:02:16
calendar.
01:02:25
YouTube channel Kurbanov Life and donate
01:02:27
donate donate and Together to victory
01:02:29
Thank you very much for this
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