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Good evening This is Yulia Latynina and Mikhail00:00:27
Podolyak Mikhail hello Hello00:00:33
revolutionary greeting Don’t forget00:00:35
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I hope that it will be interesting and my00:00:46
first question Mikhail I can’t help but ask00:00:49
here right now the latest news has come00:00:52
that the United States has announced a new package of00:00:55
military assistance worth more than two billion00:00:58
dollars and in them, in addition to air defense systems, Ok00:01:03
high-precision missiles are the same Grant,00:01:08
which we will simply call00:01:11
flying bombs so as not to break the tongue,00:01:15
and I’m specifically talking about this because00:01:18
I have two questions at once: the first is what00:01:21
gives the appearance of00:01:23
150-kilometer missiles at the front, they fly00:01:26
150 km and the second is this not a replacement, that00:01:32
is, will it work? So they will be given00:01:34
instead of attacks And the third, excuse me that00:01:37
I wrote three of these at once Bloomberg and Ruslan00:01:42
Leveev said that despite the fact that they are00:01:44
given, they will appear only in nine00:01:46
months. They will appear in 9 months,00:01:49
or they are in this aid package. And everything00:01:52
that usually appears in the aid package, I’ll00:01:56
start right away with the last one. It’s a question of00:01:59
logistics delivery, nothing more, I do00:02:02
n’t I completely understand why everyone is writing there00:02:04
will be tanks there in six months or00:02:07
there will be,00:02:08
say, developments jointly developed by00:02:10
Boeing and Saab, in this case the rocket00:02:13
you are talking about with a jet00:02:15
engine will be in 9, I don’t quite00:02:17
understand where they get all this from, there are00:02:19
specific logistics procedures00:02:22
that if there is a package of assistance,00:02:24
it includes a certain amount of weapons and00:02:26
then the question is that it is included, a00:02:29
decision has been made, a political decision has been made, and00:02:31
then the question of logistics is as00:02:34
fast as possible. We are always interested in00:02:36
receiving00:02:38
the same as quickly as possible. You understand, yes, this is a system00:02:40
that will allow us to strengthen the00:02:43
concept of closed skies and00:02:45
accordingly, all this will be00:02:46
delivered to Ukraine as quickly as possible. Of course, you and I00:02:50
will be able to talk about the fact that they00:02:52
came to us already when they begin00:02:54
to be used in this case, and so on00:02:57
until that moment, we will say00:02:59
that yes, the decision on the transfer has been made. Well then00:03:02
there is, roughly speaking, Let's sequence there is a decision on00:03:04
the transfer. This is the first. Second, they are included in a00:03:07
specific package of military assistance, which00:03:09
will now be agreed upon both00:03:12
legally and politically for the transfer of00:03:14
Ukraine. The third is delivery logistics, but00:03:17
it is quite a large logistics and we00:03:19
will not discuss it live,00:03:21
understandable business But nevertheless, these00:03:24
bombs, this is the fourth, arrive in Ukraine00:03:26
after some time, it doesn’t matter there for a week00:03:28
or a month and a half, so they00:03:32
are with us and we are starting to00:03:34
use them because missiles of any00:03:36
range that we can get and00:03:39
use for they do not require00:03:41
special training. Why, by the way, when I00:03:44
talk about this stage of the war, I always00:03:46
start not with tanks, even00:03:48
and even more so if it’s attack aircraft,00:03:50
because tanks require training of about a00:03:53
month and a half. Well,00:03:55
depending on the modification, from one and a half00:03:56
to two months for And this is not only00:03:59
just training in using a tank, but also00:04:01
for use in a colony, let’s say. Well, that00:04:03
is, what is the concept of battle coherence in00:04:06
controlling a tank group, which00:04:08
will include new types of tanks,00:04:11
this is what our guys are learning, training in00:04:14
the use of aviation equipment, we are00:04:16
now talking primarily about attack00:04:18
aircraft because once again I want to00:04:20
emphasize here that there is a00:04:22
priority for aviation, which we must.00:04:25
At this stage, perhaps00:04:28
not everyone understands how to use this. This is not a question of, for example,00:04:30
f-16 just because f-16 are00:04:33
fighters with interceptor functions and00:04:36
of course they can perform00:04:37
certain functions of an attack aircraft. But in00:04:40
fact for a counter-offensive to00:04:42
effectively cover advancing groups of00:04:46
troops, attack aircraft are needed so that00:04:48
these weapons can be used for00:04:51
several months, and finally,00:04:54
extended-range missiles which And why00:04:55
they are needed, I’ll emphasize 150 kilometers00:04:58
because Russia today has pulled its00:05:02
mobilization reserve its00:05:03
artillery resources away from the00:05:06
front line to 100 kilometers Well, approximately, that00:05:08
is, the main00:05:09
operational-tactical warehouses, I will now move on00:05:12
to strategic warehouses, which00:05:13
are located in the same Crimea and are the00:05:16
main supply base for all00:05:17
groups including Donetsk and00:05:19
Zaporozhye, so 100 kilometers,00:05:22
in order to destroy operational00:05:24
warehouses, we need missiles with a range 10000:05:25
plus kilometers in order to destroy the00:05:27
Key supply base, a single base,00:05:30
this is the Crimea peninsula, we need the Atacams and00:05:34
therefore today’s missiles will definitely not00:05:37
cancel the discussion of transferring to us00:05:40
Atacams type missiles, that is, which has a00:05:42
range of 300 kilometers, 300 50000:05:44
kilometers, that is, roughly speaking, one does not00:05:47
cancel the other We will definitely carry out00:05:49
negotiations further, we will00:05:52
carry out even longer-range missiles,00:05:53
but now I am moving on to this stage00:05:57
of the war at this stage of the war,00:05:59
the logistics of the war look like00:06:01
this: Russia is concentrating00:06:04
its strike forces, reserves,00:06:07
mobilization artillery depots at a00:06:09
distance of 100 kilometers in order to00:06:11
sharply reduce Russia's military capabilities00:06:13
offensive capabilities need to00:06:16
strike at logistics bases, that is, at00:06:18
operational-tactical warehouses and at00:06:20
operational-tactical bases. Where00:06:22
are the00:06:23
mobilized ones? For this we need00:06:24
missiles with a range of 150 km; this once again00:06:27
emphasizes that it will significantly reduce the00:06:29
combat effectiveness of Russian strike00:06:31
groups in different directions;00:06:33
secondly, armored vehicles are needed for this to00:06:35
break 1 2 Echelon in a counterattack to break and00:06:39
enter a large territory and00:06:41
expand in this territory and thirdly,00:06:43
attack aircraft are needed in order to00:06:46
protect and minimize, or rather, losses of00:06:49
manpower and protect armored vehicles00:06:51
that are behind in breakthroughs, that is, the logistics of00:06:54
this stage These are the shells with00:06:57
rockets engines with a range of 15000:06:59
kilometers are extremely important today,00:07:01
well, or missiles with a00:07:05
range of For example, 300 kilometers are00:07:08
always needed because I emphasize once again that00:07:10
they will sharply reduce the maneuverability of the00:07:13
Russian army in the occupied00:07:16
territories, you00:07:19
can transfer this from the Kazakhs So 15000:07:22
kilometers This is for an offensive on the00:07:24
Zaporozhye front in in particular, and I will even00:07:27
remind our listeners that the00:07:30
Russian Bakhmud, the Russian troops they are00:07:33
fighting are supplied through the Crimea, that is,00:07:36
through changar and that rockets 150 meters00:07:40
will reach chingara further. You00:07:42
yourself can figure out what will happen00:07:45
when they fly there00:07:48
300 kilometers, this is already You00:07:52
can say that yes, I understand00:07:55
the logic. That is, you want to say that00:07:57
from an operational point of view it is important 15000:08:00
because it will allow interrupting the00:08:02
supply chain. And today, for the advancing00:08:04
Russian troops, 300 kilometers is something00:08:07
that00:08:08
will strategically solve the problem of00:08:09
supplying Russian groups in general00:08:12
in different directions through Crimea,00:08:13
of course this can be said so, that is,00:08:15
if we want to systematically destroy the00:08:18
logistics capabilities of the Russian00:08:20
army, we systematically emphasize that we00:08:22
need missiles with a range of more than00:08:24
150 kilometers, if we want to talk about a00:08:27
sharp decrease in the combat effectiveness of00:08:30
Russian groups specifically at00:08:32
the offensive moment, then of course 150 is00:08:34
also a solution because00:08:36
today the maximum range of the weapons00:08:38
that we have together is a fool is 7000:08:41
kilometers,00:08:44
but all this is included in the picture of the00:08:47
big offensive on Zaporozhye 15000:08:51
kilometers brings warehouses Tanks go into a00:08:53
breakthrough And f-22 planes protect them00:08:56
because without aviation dominance over the00:08:59
battlefield,00:09:00
respectively Well,00:09:02
modern tanks it’s irresponsible to let them into a breakthrough00:09:05
and do it in such a way that00:09:07
they are clicked accordingly. This all00:09:11
adds up perfectly. It00:09:12
all adds up to a wonderful00:09:15
picture. There is one blot on it; this is a00:09:17
recent statement by the president, which00:09:20
everyone was discussing about the fact that they won’t give the F16, but00:09:25
if possible, something is happening they still00:09:28
give or don’t let us now move on to 1600:09:30
I just don’t think that we are talking only in the00:09:33
Zaporizhzhya direction. It seems to me that00:09:35
we are talking about all the main priority00:09:36
areas, which are very important for us, and00:09:39
Donetsk Lugansk, especially now there are00:09:41
quite intense battles in the Lugansk00:09:43
direction, criminal matchmaker and there the00:09:45
operational situation allows us to00:09:47
say that Ukraine is suppressing00:09:49
Russian defensive formations in00:09:52
this direction and we are concerned about the South,00:09:54
first of all, of course, because this is00:09:56
again a supply artery that00:09:58
comes from Crimea and so on, therefore for00:10:01
strategically or even more accurately00:10:03
operationally already I didn’t discuss tactical plans for00:10:05
offensive operations. Well,00:10:07
why is the General Staff probably00:10:09
still interested in00:10:10
not discussing this specifically on the air?00:10:13
This is obvious, and to be honest, I don’t even00:10:17
think that there is any one00:10:19
offensive operation. I think that there are00:10:20
many different ones. scenarios and00:10:23
which specific General Staff will follow00:10:24
at the moment, this is closer to the actual00:10:27
start dates of some more active00:10:30
actions. Now, as for00:10:32
Mr. Biden’s answers,00:10:33
you understand, firstly, it’s very strange00:10:36
after the00:10:38
fundamental issue of forming a00:10:40
conditional tank was resolved coalition00:10:42
immediately after the start, it’s just the beginning of the00:10:45
negotiation process to go to the leader, the00:10:46
global leader, and ask will you00:10:48
hand over the planes tomorrow, of course, he00:10:51
should answer no because the00:10:52
negotiation process is underway, the arguments are00:10:54
just being laid out on the table, this is the logic of the00:10:56
diplomatic component of the logic,00:10:59
this is very important to take into account. It seems to me00:11:02
that this is generally the case it is incorrect to appoint00:11:03
politicians who will make a00:11:06
fateful decision on the transfer of this or00:11:09
that instrument. In this case, we are00:11:11
talking about different instruments; there was an air defense system, for00:11:12
example, then you tanks. Tank00:11:16
coalition now we are talking about missiles for00:11:18
me, for example, the priority is still00:11:19
long-range missiles and then00:11:22
attack aircraft and aviation, and it00:11:24
seems to me that it’s a little incorrect to confuse the questions you00:11:26
will hand over the planes tomorrow.00:11:28
I understand that the00:11:30
media like to00:11:31
hype somewhere, but it seems to me that this is00:11:33
incorrect because And now I’m00:11:35
returning to the main thing, now it’s clear that00:11:37
at this stage and the analysis of this stage of the war,00:11:39
not only we have it, but00:11:42
our partners also have it, and at this stage,00:11:44
it’s obvious what tools are needed. You are00:11:46
absolutely right, but not attack aircraft, not00:11:49
fighter aircraft, we need to talk about00:11:50
attack fighter aircraft,00:11:53
of course, they are also needed in 16. A very useful00:11:55
machine will allow you to close the sky00:11:58
I repeat again, but nevertheless, for effective00:12:01
support of the attackers, either Apaches are needed.00:12:04
Well, that is, helicopters. Tanks, in fact, yes.00:12:06
Or attack aircraft as00:12:10
such, so these are today on the00:12:13
negotiating table, two options on which00:12:15
we actively insist and00:12:18
active negotiations are even underway now at the level of00:12:20
presidents and Mr. Zelensky is actively00:12:23
promoting this; these are long-range missiles that00:12:25
instrumentally allow us to solve the00:12:27
significant problem of disrupting the00:12:29
logistics supply of Russian00:12:31
groups. And war is logs, first00:12:34
of all, and the second part is precisely00:12:37
attack aircraft, if in parallel with this,00:12:39
of course, issues of00:12:42
fighter aircraft will be discussed, we will use both hands00:12:44
for but I think that these decisions will be00:12:46
made in a much shorter period00:12:49
than decisions were made on air defense systems or than00:12:52
decisions were made on tanks and so on.00:12:53
Why And now I’m going back to the00:12:56
beginning of what I said because the00:12:59
analysis of the stage of the war is for our partners00:13:02
and they understand As you correctly said, for00:13:04
example, the destruction of logistics00:13:06
will allow a sharp reduction in the combat effectiveness of00:13:08
Russian artillery groups,00:13:10
first of all, a00:13:11
second tank breakthrough without cover00:13:15
or long-range artillery that00:13:18
can suppress Counter-battery warfare00:13:21
and suppress the artillery00:13:23
capabilities of defensive Russia, or00:13:26
attack aircraft that00:13:28
can also do this task to effectively carry it out00:13:30
would really look strange,00:13:33
we are discussing these military arguments00:13:35
on the table and it seems to me that we will come to some00:13:38
fundamentally correct decision00:13:40
as quickly as possible, we00:13:43
can say that this is an absolute00:13:45
revolution in the supply of military equipment00:13:49
sprinkled right out of a bucket literally in a00:13:53
week I would very much I wanted to say that this is a00:13:57
fundamental revolution I would really like to00:13:59
say, but it seems to me that a00:14:00
more important ideological revolution has taken place.00:14:03
That is, today no one in the00:14:05
partner countries has any doubt about how the war00:14:08
should end, but nevertheless there is still00:14:10
some residual sound of the fact00:14:12
that Is it possible to do without these00:14:15
tools? Still, sometimes it still00:14:17
slips through. Why do you understand that00:14:19
the world did not perceive all this in the same way before00:14:23
the start of the war in the first half of the war,00:14:26
even in the second half of the war, or rather00:14:28
in the second trimester, let’s say, of the war, and00:14:31
only now finally both publicly and not00:14:34
publicly they say Yes, we understand that00:14:36
Russia must lose Yes, we understand00:14:38
that the conflict can only end in00:14:40
the defeat of Russia Yes, we understand that for00:14:43
this you need certain equipment Yes,00:14:45
we understand that the stage of war is specific,00:14:47
which requires specific00:14:49
tools Yes they even say this publicly,00:14:51
but nevertheless, nevertheless, there is still00:14:54
some kind of this, you know,00:14:55
excessive, let’s say, bureaucracy00:14:58
or excessive passion for collectivism,00:15:01
that is, when you do not make a00:15:02
volitional decision. And when you still need to hold00:15:05
some kind of discussion, decide00:15:07
what - a collegial decision, like there was00:15:09
on tanks, that is, one country, the second, the00:15:11
third, everyone seems to be in favor, but somehow we need to00:15:14
get together collectively and make a00:15:15
collegial decision. That’s exactly the same thing that’s00:15:18
happening and now the period is only00:15:20
decreasing, that is, roughly speaking, if00:15:22
before They were having a discussion among themselves, not00:15:24
with us. And among themselves, when they had already00:15:26
accepted our arguments, they carried on for example for two00:15:28
months, now this discussion00:15:30
takes two weeks, but nevertheless,00:15:33
nevertheless, I once again emphasized that Ukraine00:15:35
is in a state of war and we00:15:37
understand that every day there is a00:15:39
certain cost which00:15:40
is paid for with the lives of people, they still do00:15:43
n’t look at it like that, they look at it00:15:45
that it’s Geopolitics where there are some00:15:49
opportunities somewhere to put some00:15:52
informational pressure on something. That is, for example, to00:15:54
tell Russia that we can transfer something to00:15:56
Ukraine there- then So, make a00:15:58
decision for yourself that you are ready, for example, to00:16:01
concede in something to Russia, of course,00:16:03
as a country that does not relate to I between the00:16:05
Russian political elite does not00:16:07
relate to people who objectively00:16:10
assess the events taking place and therefore00:16:13
expecting rational thinking from them is a00:16:16
waste time, but nevertheless,00:16:18
Unfortunately,00:16:21
these elements are still present in the negotiation process; the00:16:25
most important thing happened at the00:16:27
EU summit, but not counting the fact that in general the00:16:30
EU summit is taking place in Kiev, which is an00:16:34
event in itself that speaks for00:16:38
itself there are three elements here. I would00:16:40
highlight them. The very holding of the00:16:42
EU summit in Kiev during the war00:16:44
suggests that this is the whole attempt of00:16:47
Russian propaganda to somehow prove that you are00:16:48
afraid of us, don’t support us00:16:51
too much, demonstratively, Ukraine has failed00:16:53
and this coalition is Anti-Putin00:16:57
Let’s call it correctly all the time00:16:59
anti-Putin Yes, it’s not00:17:01
even anti-Russian, but specifically the00:17:02
anti-Putin coalition, it is fixed,00:17:05
it is fundamentally00:17:07
and it is exclusively00:17:13
Well, I generally look at everything differently. I think00:17:16
that it00:17:17
will be fundamentally necessary to deal with the00:17:20
Russian political elite. It00:17:21
cannot continue to exist in this form.00:17:23
And then there will be different paths of00:17:25
Russia's movement That is, it will be able to choose one or00:17:28
another road or go back along the path of00:17:30
such, let's say, infantile revanchism and still00:17:33
end up with a00:17:34
final catastrophe or00:17:36
final disappearance, or it will still be able to00:17:38
replay the scenario of the 90s and early 90s00:17:41
when there was an opportunity00:17:44
to discuss some problems in a democratic way,00:17:45
meaning to discuss them competitively on00:17:47
different platforms and still choose the00:17:49
path of truly liberalization both00:17:52
within social relations and politics00:17:54
as such and the economy as such, but00:17:56
this is a separate issue, we can then00:17:58
separately discuss it00:18:05
ourselves Tourist on the one hand this00:18:08
the most important is the first component,00:18:10
to summarize, this is the most important informational,00:18:16
the most important information phenomenon that00:18:18
clearly recorded what Ukraine is for everything00:18:21
for Europe today, that is,00:18:24
it recorded the unity of Europe and Ukraine00:18:27
and, accordingly, all subsequent events00:18:29
must be viewed through the prism of00:18:31
this unity. Now the second thing that00:18:33
was recorded and the main thing at the summit00:18:36
work was carried out to audit those, let's say,00:18:41
implement the roadmap that is00:18:43
necessary for building a00:18:46
European let's say00:18:48
European state architecture within Ukraine. That00:18:51
is, this state must be00:18:53
synchronized in legislation in00:18:56
certain regulatory acts with the00:18:58
European single market. But this is clear,00:19:01
work has been done, points have been clarified00:19:04
which need to be argued before strengthened00:19:06
Why And here I move to the third00:19:08
plane, this summit clearly showed00:19:11
that there is an understanding as soon as Ukraine00:19:14
wins the war, Ukraine, in fact, very00:19:16
quickly will be a member of the European Union, not00:19:18
a candidate, but a member of the European Union in00:19:22
very quick terms, all that is00:19:23
called today is absolutely Tribute to such a00:19:26
neat Give me information00:19:28
policy This is good This is correct 24 2500:19:31
or there are some other long terms00:19:33
called No actually After00:19:35
Russia’s defeat and victory Well, or rather,00:19:38
exit on the border of the internationally00:19:40
recognized border in 1991, Ukraine will00:19:43
very quickly be admitted to the European Union This00:19:46
months not even years but months00:19:49
Very compressed months 3-400:19:52
months so by this moment the00:19:55
infrastructure architecture the state00:19:58
should be in Ukraine a little different00:20:00
more compact more transparent more00:20:03
let’s say or rather less regulatory for the regulation00:20:05
It’s already let’s say and more adapted to00:20:08
European models states, this is what00:20:11
was discussed today in Kiev, as the main thing,00:20:13
I don’t take all these additional00:20:15
Discussions at different levels of the00:20:17
president’s peace formula from the point of view of what we00:20:19
mean by finalizing the war00:20:21
correctly, that is, and what cases we00:20:23
can discuss here at different levels00:20:25
with different countries, what This means from the00:20:28
point of view of additional00:20:29
financial assistance there for the restoration of00:20:31
Ukraine and for additional financing of00:20:34
social programs because, after all,00:20:35
our economy has been significantly destroyed, and00:20:38
so on. This was a separate discussion,00:20:39
but the main issue is the readiness of00:20:43
Europe and it is very important here, I note the00:20:45
readiness of Europe very quickly making00:20:48
Ukraine a full member of the European Union is00:20:51
important and they are00:20:53
gradually realizing this at different levels and are00:20:56
even talking about this, and the second is00:20:59
Ukraine’s readiness to show a model of a00:21:01
state that will be absolutely00:21:02
adaptive to European standards.00:21:07
But in fact,00:21:09
we simply saw readiness for European standards just00:21:13
like the people themselves there were searches,00:21:16
there were initiation of criminal cases. And00:21:20
if you can comment a little, it00:21:24
seems to you that the00:21:27
most important thing about the charges brought against you is what you think is00:21:29
the most outrageous thing you00:21:31
stopped at.00:21:32
Well, first of all, this was not for the summit.00:21:34
Let’s record here, there was just a00:21:37
lot of public,00:21:41
these are not companies, this is not companies00:21:45
because companies are still in this case or a00:21:47
company00:21:48
dedicated to some event does not00:21:50
solve fundamental issues. Well,00:21:52
well, we would time it to coincide with the European00:21:55
summit and so that it should00:21:57
symbolize. That is, you want to00:21:58
say that our European partners do not00:22:01
understand the depth there, for example problems and00:22:04
are ready to be satisfied with some kind of00:22:06
external manifestation of the fight, for example, against00:22:08
corruption, no. This is not so in00:22:10
reality, that is, everyone understands everything perfectly well,00:22:11
see the phenomenon of corruption.00:22:14
Unfortunately, it is an integral part of the00:22:16
post-Soviet space, not only of00:22:17
Ukraine but also of other countries, that is,00:22:19
therefore, from here and such00:22:21
skewed economies arose with the emergence of large00:22:23
oligarchies and raw material oligarchs and so00:22:25
on, including in Ukraine and,00:22:27
accordingly, uh, oligarchs. After all,00:22:30
how they work is very simple, they00:22:32
begin to accumulate due to00:22:33
administrative, let’s say, administrative00:22:36
tools of competition that00:22:39
allow them to suppress competitors, in00:22:41
principle, they they allowed some of the money to be00:22:43
redirected to finance00:22:45
political parties, so to00:22:47
speak, the parties were given control, which00:22:49
then occupied part of the parliaments,00:22:52
a significant part of the parliaments, and back00:22:55
they allowed the formation of a government. Well, that00:22:59
is, according to the quota principle, which00:23:01
again allowed the oligarchs to receive00:23:03
administrative competitive00:23:05
advantages, which is quite primitive but00:23:07
nevertheless effective. a formula that00:23:09
also worked in Ukraine for a long time, this00:23:12
formula, in principle, is now gradually00:23:14
being destroyed, corroded by Why Because,00:23:17
firstly, the state cannot be00:23:19
effective in the presence of so00:23:21
many parasitic branches, and00:23:24
oligarchs are always a parasitic00:23:25
branch because it00:23:27
generates unnatural competition, that00:23:30
is, competition of administrative00:23:32
advantages and not competition for a product or00:23:34
service, this is an obvious thing, then00:23:36
the state during a war, or rather,00:23:39
society during a war reacts much more00:23:42
harshly to any manifestations of00:23:46
improper competition, or even more00:23:48
so to any manifestations of monetary00:23:51
budget impropriety and,00:23:53
accordingly, makes more stringent demands00:23:55
for us, it is extremely important that00:23:57
society and the state today, the00:23:59
state means how00:24:01
specific institutions were synchronized and00:24:04
trusted each other this is very much and00:24:06
accordingly this accumulated you00:24:08
understand Why in the first00:24:11
few months of the war we did not have special00:24:14
public attention to, say, sins in00:24:17
making certain management00:24:18
decisions or Now society cannot afford one or another manifestation00:24:21
of dishonesty,00:24:26
and00:24:28
once again there was no time for that, there was no time for that, that00:24:33
is, it was necessary, in the first months,00:24:34
it was necessary to show that we have a00:24:36
high survival potential in such an00:24:38
intense war, we have shown this, now00:24:41
society wants to synchronize back00:24:43
synchronize with the state and00:24:45
understand that it is not allowed to rob or loot during a00:24:49
war and the state reacts to this00:24:51
and for me, in principle, this00:24:54
looks optimally correct. Why I00:24:56
emphasize that we must have a reputation; the00:24:59
reputation of the state that is fighting00:25:02
must be unshakable and transparent;00:25:05
moreover, the state00:25:07
must be as strict as possible not00:25:10
just to the financial dishonesty of00:25:11
this or that official, but also to his00:25:14
incompetence, including his00:25:17
lack of professionalism, that is, is he ready to00:25:19
make a decision and are these00:25:21
decisions really effective or are00:25:24
they still potential for corruption?00:25:26
This is very important; this is all00:25:29
happening now and to me It seems that this is not a00:25:31
question, not that it seems, I am sure of this.00:25:33
This is not a question of today,00:25:35
yesterday. When did the main00:25:38
procedural measures take place to00:25:41
seize certain documents for the arrest of00:25:45
certain subjects for political00:25:47
resignations and court decisions,00:25:49
for example, two months of seizure of collateral00:25:52
in the amount of 400 million hryvnia with high00:25:54
amounts in relation to deputies,00:25:56
for example, ministers in certain sectors,00:25:59
for me this is the beginning of a global00:26:02
cleansing process, which means that it will not00:26:05
end today, will not end tomorrow,00:26:07
that the rules have changed, these rules are00:26:11
very important. This is something that, well, kind of speaks00:26:13
about the changes rules of the game as a whole,00:26:15
so these rules will be different, that00:26:18
is, roughly speaking, no one00:26:20
will allow looters to anyone, this does not mean that in two00:26:22
days or two weeks or two00:26:24
months we will solve the problem of corruption as00:26:26
such, but at least if we begin00:26:29
to indicate that for state, it is extremely00:26:32
important to be different and in this state there00:26:35
must be different rules and a person00:26:38
who enters this or that00:26:40
official position must understand the00:26:42
risks that he is taking on himself, meaning00:26:44
if, due to an internal00:26:47
immoral core, he nevertheless decides to00:26:49
loot, especially for supplies there00:26:52
let’s say the army or on social00:26:54
payments to temporarily displaced persons00:26:57
who have lost their homes and jobs,00:26:59
and so on. Then, accordingly, he must00:27:01
be prepared for the first, the most00:27:04
stringent public instruction, the second, the00:27:06
fastest possible political00:27:08
resignation, 3, a mandatory internal00:27:11
investigation, the fourth, a mandatory00:27:13
investigation by law enforcement00:27:14
agencies, 5 harsh legal00:27:16
consequences. And finally, the sixth absolute and00:27:20
long-term lack of reputation that00:27:22
will allow him to somehow later prove00:27:25
himself in this or that position. It00:27:27
seems to me that what we are showing is00:27:29
very good.00:27:31
I have a small clarification, I was struck by the00:27:34
contracts that were concluded for the00:27:37
supply of some kind of military those things00:27:41
that were not delivered. I want to00:27:43
clarify whether I understand correctly that this00:27:45
was concluded in the first days of the war and00:27:47
most likely the people who concluded it00:27:49
thought that Ukraine would collapse like00:27:53
the money will remain.00:27:55
You are asking an absolutely00:27:58
very, let’s say00:28:00
global question that suggests00:28:03
that really in the first months of the war,00:28:06
many violated the rules because00:28:09
they thought that there would be no consequences due to the00:28:12
short-term nature of the situation, that is, roughly00:28:15
speaking, Ukraine will collapse and everything will be written off. Well, that is, everything will00:28:18
be written off, all these debts, that is,00:28:20
you can buy something for yourself now00:28:22
because there is no tomorrow we will have to answer for this,00:28:24
firstly, secondly, there is00:28:27
another nuance, for me, corruption is00:28:30
manifested today when00:28:32
contracts are concluded today, when the00:28:34
infrastructure is more or less built, we00:28:36
understand that Ukraine will not00:28:38
collapse anywhere, that we need to take responsibility,00:28:41
that’s when today a person demonstrates a00:28:43
lack of understanding time and place where he00:28:46
is and continues to try00:28:48
somehow the state to take something away, or rather00:28:51
not even the state of the people who this00:28:53
State protects,00:28:55
this is exactly what is extremely immoral and it00:28:58
should be punished as cruelly as possible00:29:00
Because when we talk about March,00:29:02
for example, 2022 Or about April00:29:05
2022, then many management decisions00:29:08
looked Perhaps somewhat illegal00:29:11
based on our current00:29:13
positions Yes, but at a time when it00:29:16
was necessary to distribute weapons and there were no00:29:18
regulations Well, distribute weapons to everyone00:29:20
Well, against you remember Yes, what00:29:22
happened in the first days of the week in Kiev00:29:24
in other cities we distributed weapons,00:29:27
just weapons without any00:29:29
legal fixations; at that time it00:29:31
was necessary to go in and get food from somewhere in the00:29:35
pharmacy because we would00:29:39
give it to the guys who were00:29:41
military personnel and so on. That is,00:29:43
you see, at that moment00:29:44
many were accepted and let's say management00:29:47
decisions that were not legally00:29:50
correct, let's say so, at that time, that00:29:54
is, what I'm talking about now. I want00:29:57
that when we today evaluate the events of00:29:59
that time, that we make a discount. In00:30:01
which regions did this happen first?00:30:04
What decisions were made? Why00:30:07
were they made? in these regions, especially00:30:08
if active hostilities have already gone there,00:30:10
that is, did they00:30:12
really cause any damage, yes, that is, so that00:30:15
we do not judge everyone based on00:30:17
today’s corrupt actions, this is00:30:19
how If today a person commits a00:30:21
corrupt act, this is one00:30:23
component yes And if he did something is00:30:26
not entirely legally correct in April00:30:29
or March 2022 in a region where00:30:33
active hostilities were taking place. It seems to me that00:30:36
certain allowances need to be made for this.00:30:38
That is, I want you to know that there was no00:30:41
such automatic attitude towards everyone,00:30:44
you all violated, you are all corrupt, you00:30:48
everyone is to blame No, I want that today00:30:50
when a person is definitely a corrupt official00:30:52
or even a looter And everything regarding the00:30:55
first months of the war Let’s00:30:57
look at the specific circumstances,00:30:59
we can discuss them publicly and we will00:31:02
make decisions because you know00:31:03
A lot of people were00:31:06
cool guys then, especially in the territory00:31:09
where they were actively marching Once again, I emphasize the00:31:11
military operations made extremely00:31:13
difficult management decisions,00:31:15
made them very quickly and did not00:31:17
think at all about the fact that it would then be necessary to00:31:19
talk legally specifically about00:31:21
why you went to this or that store and00:31:23
took bread because you had guys00:31:25
standing there who were essentially fighting You see,00:31:28
it’s very important to separate these00:31:30
concepts so that we are people who00:31:32
really00:31:33
work efficiently and effectively. It00:31:36
may not always be legally correct00:31:39
in the first months so that we do not treat them with the same00:31:41
brush today with those who00:31:43
sit very warmly and comfortably in their offices and00:31:45
make a decision, let’s say in February00:31:49
2023 years and this situation looks completely different00:31:56
Well, the situation is really different and00:32:00
but nevertheless Russia, Russian troops00:32:02
went on the offensive, so the nightingale says00:32:05
that the Generals of the Russian army are shocked by00:32:09
Putin’s orders and are afraid that they will burn the00:32:12
entire army and even intend to00:32:15
sabotage its orders Alexey00:32:17
Arrestovich On Wednesday he said a very important thing.00:32:21
He said that from her point of view00:32:22
this is the last offensive that00:32:24
Putin is going on in the sense that00:32:27
he regards this offensive as after it there should00:32:30
be some kind of negotiations from Putin’s point of view.00:32:32
Well, that is, this is his wish I do00:32:35
n’t mean that it will work out, but00:32:37
this is from Putin’s point of view. He already00:32:39
understands that he will not defeat all of Ukraine,00:32:41
but he wants some additional00:32:44
territories so that he can00:32:46
bargain.00:32:47
And I will, of course, talk about this in more detail00:32:50
tomorrow in Aquadet Access00:32:52
because from my point of view, at least00:32:55
what I was told, the most important task of00:32:58
this Russian offensive is the sale of00:33:00
Ukrainian reserves that will00:33:02
advance and then burn all those gifts00:33:05
that are now falling on Ukraine and,00:33:09
accordingly, my question is: How do you00:33:12
assess the prospects for this00:33:14
offensive and that’s actually all the theories00:33:16
that I outlined to you, do you expect00:33:19
sabotage, do you expect that Putin00:33:22
will ask after these negotiations00:33:26
first, the00:33:28
Russian Federation is really going00:33:31
all-in, that is, it has accumulated some kind of00:33:33
reserve, some resource and will00:33:36
still try to improve its position.00:33:39
This is the first second. It is certainly00:33:42
absurd to expect00:33:45
from the current Russian army any00:33:48
special creativity and any sharp00:33:50
improvement in the quality of00:33:53
work compared to February 2022. I00:33:56
want to specifically stipulate this here; it is00:33:59
very important.00:34:00
We do not see signs that the00:34:04
understanding of war has somehow changed, but from the point of00:34:06
view tactics strategy on the part of both the00:34:08
Russian command and the Russian00:34:10
operational command, this is very00:34:12
important, of course, once again emphasizing the00:34:14
resource is quite accumulated and it will00:34:17
create some problems for us, we understand this; the00:34:21
third component is00:34:23
doubtful that there will be some kind of sabotage00:34:26
because, in principle, the quality of00:34:27
management today is at a low level and there is00:34:29
no additional00:34:31
need to sabotage it and So it looks quite00:34:33
strange except for especially motivated00:34:35
prisoner units or especially00:34:37
motivated people who are00:34:39
fighting to improve their position in00:34:42
Putin’s entourage the day before. As I understand it, it’s inside an00:34:45
elite conflict, but the rest are not very00:34:49
motivated parts00:34:51
and the fourth component is very important Well,00:34:54
we are also preparing for certain00:34:57
actions Counter-actions to00:34:58
counter what the00:34:59
Russian Federation will do and you are00:35:02
absolutely right, today we see an00:35:04
intensification of hostilities in the00:35:06
Limansky Ugledarsky Bakhmut00:35:09
direction, that is, we can’t say that00:35:11
it’s just there, as in Russia itself00:35:14
they say the battles of Stalingrad yes they are happening00:35:16
because the 80th anniversary of an00:35:18
incomprehensible history called00:35:20
Stalingrad, but nevertheless00:35:21
the intensification has grown, yes we see it, of00:35:24
course, certain operational00:35:28
tactical actions are taking place: someone advances, takes00:35:30
half a kilometer of territory, then00:35:32
retreats, gives up this half a kilometer of00:35:34
territory and this will continue, that00:35:37
is, these are all relictivistic you00:35:39
know the story that we are literally00:35:44
here to launch a gigantic offensive and now00:35:48
it will definitely bring00:35:50
Ukraine to its knees. Of course they do not correspond to00:35:52
reality. This is rather a hybrid00:35:53
information component. Again, it is important to00:35:56
understand that there00:35:58
will indeed be an offensive and to counter00:36:00
this offensive effectively, Ukraine needs00:36:02
certain types again, some00:36:04
nomenclatures A certain amount of00:36:05
special military equipment, that00:36:08
is, weapons, roughly speaking, and we00:36:10
discuss this with our partners and finally00:36:13
the main part Yes, you understand Yulia, there is not a00:36:18
single option for some kind of00:36:20
negotiation process00:36:22
because this will be an unfinished war00:36:25
and not a finished war, this is always00:36:26
revanchism on both sides, but we cannot00:36:30
afford to leave Russia somewhere on the00:36:33
territory of Ukraine. Why Because,00:36:35
firstly, Russia that is not a loser will not00:36:37
pay its bills; secondly, Russia that is not a00:36:40
loser will not receive internal00:36:42
transformation; thirdly, Russia that is not a00:36:44
loser will continue pump up00:36:46
your own village with wild propaganda,00:36:49
and the population, in turn, pumped up with00:36:52
this primitive propaganda, will begin to00:36:54
demand the next stage of the war one way or00:36:57
another, and fourthly, you and I will get a00:36:59
dying Ukraine Well, because everyone00:37:02
will understand this and, accordingly, we00:37:05
won’t get people back here, we won’t get people coming here00:37:07
any significant00:37:10
money here because the point is to restore the00:37:12
country’s economy, which at any moment00:37:15
could collapse into the next stage of the war, that00:37:16
is, of course, venture capital investors00:37:19
will come in because it’s risky and they’ll00:37:21
probably get some kind of00:37:23
operating profit at the first stage, which is significant,00:37:25
but nevertheless systemic investments will not00:37:28
come and Ukraine will quickly00:37:30
degrade, that is, it will turn into00:37:32
such a country, a ruined country that00:37:35
there is no point in restoring and it will be00:37:38
demoralized from within, you understand. That is,00:37:40
we will then begin the processes of moral00:37:42
decay, we definitely don’t need this, and00:37:45
finally the next thing will be very important in Ukraine too there are00:37:48
many people who will say00:37:50
Why did you agree to essentially00:37:52
capitulate to Russia? Why did our00:37:54
loved ones die and there will be a00:37:57
lot of people who want to continue00:37:59
the war because it is still necessary to00:38:02
take the necessary payment from those responsible for this war,00:38:05
this is impossible. I repeat once again00:38:08
when you talk about Putin, as a00:38:10
person who knows how to00:38:11
predict something, you are deeply mistaken, this is a00:38:13
little intellectual subject, he can00:38:16
only put forward ultimatum00:38:17
demands without completely understanding the00:38:19
moment and time, and accordingly00:38:22
he will continue to do this, and we will00:38:24
not accept ultimatum demands in any form00:38:25
because I repeat it again00:38:28
will not mean the three-day death of00:38:30
Ukraine, but the many-year death of Ukraine, but00:38:32
nevertheless the death of Ukraine. And this is his00:38:35
main goal. That is, everything that Putin will00:38:37
offer while on our territory00:38:39
as some kind of negotiating position00:38:41
will mean that he wants to00:38:43
make the death of Ukraine. My question is:00:38:47
Why should we agree to this after a year of00:38:49
war? We are already paying a huge price00:38:52
and we will pay it, we understand it.00:38:55
Unfortunately, this may not be fully understood by00:38:58
our partners who are still thinking: Do we need00:39:00
attack aircraft? Do we need long-range00:39:02
artillery? Do we need long-range missiles?00:39:05
give and so on, but we understand this perfectly well00:39:07
and we have a consensus and it’s00:39:10
hard for us, of course it’s hard because00:39:13
people are dying here, but nevertheless we understand00:39:16
something, you know, we have no options. We have no choice,00:39:21
we have no concept of negotiations because I00:39:23
emphasize again these are all stories00:39:24
Give up part of the territory in exchange for peace,00:39:27
they won’t work, it’s an obvious thing, I00:39:30
always catch myself thinking, after all,00:39:33
it’s just take and analyze the00:39:35
causes, consequences and risks. It’s that simple.00:39:39
Well, that’s why you probably00:39:41
studied somewhere so as not to just make a00:39:43
decision, look when they tell me Will there be an00:39:45
offensive from Belarus, I answer00:39:48
Take the mathematical form for00:39:50
the offensive, the group must have in00:39:53
order to carry out some00:39:54
significant ground tasks in the00:39:56
Northern direction 70-80 thousand plus00:39:58
for the group 70-80 thousand plus00:40:01
certain tools are needed00:40:03
for example, one and a half thousand armored vehicles,00:40:06
meaning transporters of heavy00:40:07
tanks, and so on, about 500,60000:40:11
cannon artillery and about 150-20000:40:14
MLRS systems. I'm not even talking about such00:40:17
elements as fuel supply, roughly00:40:20
calculate the math and then you will00:40:23
understand whether there will be an offensive or not00:40:25
because you will watch in00:40:27
Belarus whether such columns are being formed for you00:40:29
or not, you can’t just00:40:32
talk about something, including to our00:40:33
partners, or just talk about it, Putin00:40:36
wants me to ask again about what motivation00:40:38
Ukraine should have in order to00:40:41
sign an agreement on its own00:40:43
slow death. there is why we00:40:45
should agree to live with this00:40:47
Of course not, look, after all, you00:40:51
understand Putin’s mentality.00:40:53
Yesterday you probably heard his speech,00:40:55
he really continues to tell the00:40:57
wildest things, he says we didn’t send00:41:02
tanks to your borders,00:41:05
the subject invaded someone else’s territory,00:41:10
no one fought with him and Germany00:41:12
generally embraced him economically,00:41:16
Germany allowed Russia, starting in 2007, to00:41:19
build almost a gas monopoly for00:41:21
its country Germany was integrated00:41:24
into many Russian businesses Germany00:41:26
was on many of the boards of Russian00:41:28
raw materials companies Germany generally00:41:30
opened the way for Putin cultural,00:41:34
informational,00:41:36
scientific, and so on this subject00:41:38
is adequate When he says, we00:41:41
didn’t bring tanks to you, you brought the tanks first00:41:45
into someone else’s territory and openly brought them in. You00:41:48
came to kill people, they told you you00:41:50
are violating international law. Withdraw your00:41:52
troops, no one attacks you, and the00:41:55
subject begins to threaten further, you00:41:57
understand the absurdity of talking to a00:41:59
person who illogical That is, how00:42:02
can you fix some position00:42:04
with a person who is illogical in00:42:07
his own worldview, because he is lying to00:42:09
himself because he has a distorted00:42:12
idea. Here he is today He says00:42:14
one thing, tomorrow he will come out and say00:42:17
the opposite And people with00:42:20
such a psyche believe in this In our right to00:42:22
lie to ourselves, we will not be able to sign a00:42:26
single document with him because he will00:42:28
violate it at the moment of signing and at the same time he00:42:31
will experience schadenfreude, this is the same type00:42:33
that in fact, if we take00:42:36
the Stalingrad of our epic to where he00:42:39
tried to re-stalinize himself Yes, well that00:42:41
is, to turn into such a fake00:42:43
Stalin. Look again, even the00:42:48
honorary guard is standing. Without weapons, you00:42:52
understand the horror of his fear of real life, and00:42:56
now you want to agree on something with a person who is afraid of00:42:58
real life and00:43:01
he will have to fulfill it; it’s impossible to00:43:05
sign this. yourself a death sentence00:43:07
That is, you sign with it you write I00:43:10
want to be destroyed Ukraine00:43:13
is signing something with Putin as part of00:43:16
some kind of negotiation process, so00:43:18
here you need to fix the position and never00:43:21
forget to fix it Correctly It is00:43:23
very simple given the intensity of00:43:26
the war by a subject that is so00:43:28
distorted understanding of history as such00:43:31
and who says that the only goal00:43:34
He speaks directly about it, he simply00:43:35
veils it with different words, the only00:43:38
goal of this war is the destruction of a00:43:40
state that he categorically does not00:43:43
like and does not like the destruction of00:43:45
Ukraine as a concept, that is, an00:43:48
alternative way of thinking, people00:43:51
speak the same thing same language But00:43:53
alternatively he sees the rules of modern00:43:56
life,00:43:57
he has fixed this goal, it is clear that00:44:00
with this person you can either defeat him00:44:04
or lose to him and then either he00:44:08
dominates or you return to00:44:11
normal international relations. So00:44:15
everything else is a fiction,00:44:18
these are postponed wars, this is an imitation00:44:22
of peaceful process imitation of the negotiation00:44:24
process and fixation of the slow death00:44:28
of Ukraine and here I again ask the Key00:44:31
question: Why does anyone think that00:44:33
Ukraine is so stupid as to pay a00:44:37
gigantic00:44:39
price for the right to be free sovereign during the year00:44:42
and at the same time not understanding that any00:44:46
other outcome except Russia's loss00:44:49
after such an intensity of war and such00:44:51
hatred that today Russia does not00:44:54
hide,00:44:56
sign a death sentence for itself. I00:44:59
just want to understand why this needs to be00:45:01
discussed seriously,00:45:05
but I also don’t understand why this needs to be00:45:08
seriously discussed. But apparently, to00:45:11
my horror, no one else understands this00:45:14
like the head of the CIA, William Behrens, I00:45:18
asked you last week whether00:45:21
some negotiations were not fun, you said00:45:23
consultations between Putin and Bence and00:45:28
Sullivan, not Putin but some apparently00:45:30
his officials, that’s completely00:45:33
impossible with the conditions you00:45:35
just talked about right now up00:45:38
to giving up 20 percent of the area of00:45:41
Ukraine and I have been talking about this all week00:45:45
because, unfortunately, according to my information, there were00:45:47
some consultations, I do not00:45:49
insist that they were very00:45:50
serious, but Andrei Andreevich00:45:52
Pionkovsky just said that it00:45:54
was more likely actually00:45:56
the initiative of Mr. Burns But00:45:59
today Noah Circer knows00:46:05
writes about what confirms that00:46:08
such negotiations were held that Burns visited00:46:11
Kiev and Moscow in January, offering, I quote, to the00:46:14
warring parties to resolve the conflict00:46:17
And the size of the territory that was discussed00:46:21
reached 20 percent of the area of Ukraine,00:46:24
both sides responded to the offer of00:46:26
refusal Ukraine refused to divide00:46:30
its territories, I quote,00:46:33
as I already said,00:46:35
Putin also refused because he was00:46:38
blown away, but could you00:46:41
add something to this publication, very clear, I will00:46:45
officially add the first00:46:48
territory in exchange for peace, it is impossible, and00:46:51
we are always talking about this We say it everywhere and this00:46:54
will be recorded until the end of the war by the00:46:57
results of the war in which Russia will lose,00:47:00
this is very important. And we have already paid a00:47:03
big price and we will pay exactly as much00:47:05
as is necessary to prove it to everyone00:47:07
else. Secondly, at the level of the President of00:47:11
Ukraine at the level of00:47:14
Ukrainian officials, such negotiations have never00:47:16
taken place no such proposals were00:47:19
made to us; I emphasize once again that neither the00:47:24
American nor any other side made any such proposals to us. 300:47:27
As far as I understand, today officially both00:47:30
the State Department of the United States and the CIA,00:47:32
as the00:47:34
director of the organization that allegedly00:47:37
did this, officially said that there were00:47:39
no such proposals on the table00:47:42
fourth component Perhaps at00:47:45
different levels, not in Ukraine but somewhere00:47:48
else in Russia,00:47:50
they are talking to someone about something. As you said, some00:47:52
small various officials of some level00:47:55
and so on, but once again I emphasize00:47:57
officially such proposals Ukraine00:48:00
has not received and, as far as I understand,00:48:03
no such official proposals have been made and00:48:05
the other side, the Americans, is very00:48:07
important and finally the last thing. I conclude from this00:48:10
that at some level00:48:12
some clerks may have their own00:48:15
visions. Well, like people who know everything in00:48:18
of this life Come on, clerks, that’s why they00:48:21
know everything, they understand everything, they were doing something, and00:48:24
somewhere they themselves told someone something00:48:26
because it’s a different logic of publishing a00:48:29
Swiss newspaper, not an American newspaper,00:48:32
not a Ukrainian newspaper, any other00:48:34
European or Turkish00:48:37
newspapers who are intensively involved either00:48:39
in one or another negotiation process00:48:41
or were not involved in the war, but of course, as I00:48:44
understand it, they actually conducted an investigation at the level of Swiss00:48:46
newspapers00:48:47
and actually found00:48:50
some data, so once again00:48:52
officially, I now say ironically, I00:48:55
again have great sympathy to00:48:56
all journalists, you know, that is, in00:48:58
general, I think that the only format for00:49:00
a conversation with any journalist00:49:04
is only a dialogue form and answers to the00:49:09
most difficult questions, but when such00:49:11
investigations are published, it would be00:49:13
advisable to understand who they are00:49:14
referring to because once again I emphasize00:49:16
with us officially no one I haven’t discussed anything like this00:49:19
at any level,00:49:21
I say again, Not at any level And as I00:49:23
understand it, the State Department also says that00:49:26
they haven’t made such proposals officially, that’s00:49:28
all for the00:49:33
last group of questions Yesterday we00:49:36
had Andrei Nikolaevich Larionov on the stream00:49:39
who told me to see you Well and00:49:43
as he said, other Ukrainian00:49:44
officials with whom I communicate on air00:49:47
ask why the Ukrainian authorities,00:49:52
I can quite honestly say that the00:49:55
question is not very interesting for the00:49:56
simple reason that I don’t see this00:49:59
question being raised, for example, by Boris Johnson, I have00:50:01
no doubt that he is a great friend00:50:04
Ukraine, I’m always here all the time on00:50:07
all broadcasts, and we started with this by00:50:10
discussing when they would stage it,00:50:12
how they would stage it, but as soon as00:50:16
Andrei Nikolaevich asked, I00:50:19
’ll ask his questions at several stages:00:50:24
first, why do the Ukrainian authorities00:50:27
refuse, why don’t they want to, from00:50:31
Andrei Nikolaevich’s point of view, this will solve At the00:50:33
moment, these are two problems, as I understand it,00:50:35
the theory is that they don’t00:50:39
give anything, but everyone will give a00:50:42
very strange position. To be honest,00:50:45
even you know, sometimes I lose logic. This is an00:50:49
opportunity to somehow00:50:51
answer obvious things very correctly, but00:50:54
nevertheless I would try It is advisable for00:50:56
people to clarify what Land00:50:59
is from a legal point of view, a land list00:51:02
is an internal document of the United00:51:04
States, they determine what amount of00:51:07
assistance when in what amount In what00:51:10
form of package they will give us and Now00:51:13
look carefully We are intensive this is the00:51:15
first we are extremely intensive we work with00:51:19
our American partners 1 that00:51:22
is, Negotiations are ongoing on all types and00:51:23
nomenclatures that we need, and00:51:27
if there are any long negotiations,00:51:29
for example now on long-range missiles00:51:32
for attack aircraft, then this is not related to00:51:35
financial restrictions or reluctance of00:51:37
Lisa on one side or the other, this is00:51:40
connected with political average and now00:51:43
it’s important That’s all we ask for shells of a00:51:46
certain caliber00:51:48
tools including the same Hawks or the00:51:52
same other air defense missiles Or the same other00:51:54
javelins or stingers or whatever we00:51:56
need or artillery of different types or00:51:59
armored vehicles and so on we all00:52:03
this or supply vehicles, support00:52:06
between the delivery of shells and so on, or00:52:09
some kind of repair capabilities or hubs,00:52:11
we all receive them in full from the00:52:15
United States very quickly and00:52:17
dynamically, the last package for 2 billion,00:52:20
direct evidence before that for 70000:52:22
million, for 600 million, these are questions of00:52:25
weeks every week there is this or that00:52:27
package that is now being scrupulously discussed00:52:30
carefully. I understand that00:52:32
Mr. Larionov, of course, knows everything more deeply,00:52:34
but nevertheless,00:52:36
each package is scrupulously discussed by00:52:39
our military and the military from the00:52:43
United States, they go through all the positions in detail to00:52:48
coordinate in detail everything that we need00:52:49
unconditionally on the negotiating table there00:52:52
are always these positions that we00:52:53
talked about a little higher, missiles and aircraft now,00:52:57
but previously there were Tanks, and this is all00:53:00
being discussed and will be transferred to us or is00:53:02
already transferred within the framework of certain00:53:05
logistics programs, so I am fixing the00:53:07
land list, this is a guideline for the domestic00:53:10
market in legal terms for the domestic00:53:13
market of the United States, second, the entire00:53:15
nomenclature and all positions and all volumes are00:53:18
scrupulously discussed by the military of the two00:53:21
countries; third, we have never had any refusals00:53:24
for certain positions that are00:53:26
interesting to us; 4 the United States is the00:53:30
maximum supplier of necessary00:53:33
military equipment for Ukraine to conduct00:53:34
certain other military operations, that is,00:53:36
roughly speaking, in absolute terms, these00:53:39
figures are not comparable with the total supplies of00:53:41
all other countries. Well, except maybe00:53:43
Great Britain, we will single it out separately00:53:46
because you correctly said, starting00:53:48
with Mr. Johnson, this is a phenomenal00:53:51
country that definitely She always clearly00:53:53
understood the nature of this war Initially,00:53:55
she definitely took the fastest00:53:57
operational hard pro-Ukrainian00:53:59
position. Save from the first day of the war and00:54:02
finally the last thing, I have no doubt that the00:54:05
American side will continue to00:54:06
transfer on a weekly basis certain00:54:09
packages of weapons that we need and00:54:11
these are absolutely large financial figures in00:54:16
terms of the cost of those packages of00:54:17
weapons that they transfer to us, and00:54:20
finally, for Mr. Orion, I will say not00:54:23
everything00:54:24
once again, not everything that we discuss with our00:54:28
partners can be publicly voiced, not00:54:32
all the nomenclature can be publicly voiced, and00:54:35
not everything that is done outside the staff for00:54:37
Ukraine can be publicly voiced, I’ll be honest I do00:54:39
n’t quite understand why it is necessary00:54:42
during a war. When we have fairly00:54:43
warm relations with one or another00:54:45
partner and it is obvious that Ukraine00:54:48
takes the00:54:50
toughest possible position in relation to the end of00:54:52
the war. Why is it necessary to introduce certain00:54:55
dubious notes into our international00:54:59
relations? I don’t understand the logic,00:55:03
but is it possible? I’ll just clarify for myself. But00:55:07
in general, Ukraine, being the recipient of this00:55:10
assistance, has the right to say something like, I do00:55:14
n’t want me in a green wrapper. I00:55:16
want it to be so interesting to me whether this is an00:55:20
internal matter or whether they are deciding00:55:23
how to give this assistance00:55:26
again. I’ll state my position very much here.00:55:31
trustful00:55:32
negotiation relations within the framework of what00:55:35
we need in this or that package and00:55:39
our American partners treat us very correctly00:55:41
and accordingly00:55:44
we do not have any00:55:46
mutual claims, it is very important to00:55:48
fix this is all we want we00:55:51
get Yes, once again, do not forget this is not an00:55:55
ideal world and there are political00:55:59
restrictions, there are some internal00:56:02
dialogue processes. Yes, there is work with00:56:06
public opinion in one country or another,00:56:07
there are Russia’s attempts to disrupt or other00:56:10
supplies. This is a large complex of00:56:12
related problems that need to be00:56:14
solved, but when we conduct negotiations and00:56:17
the amount of assistance that is given to us is00:56:20
extremely highly extremely useful and00:56:23
Ukraine has absolutely working00:56:26
relations with our American00:56:27
partners. But all the time. This is00:56:30
why the Ukrainian government00:56:32
refuses. It sounds00:56:34
extremely mysterious to me. It seems to me that we will00:56:38
not directly publicly, or rather publicly and00:56:41
not publicly,00:56:43
introduce specific conversations about what we00:56:46
need in what quantity is sometimes tough?00:56:48
It seems to me that our partners are even very00:56:50
patient because we are sometimes00:56:52
tough. Well, that is,00:56:54
persistent enough for global politics for a00:56:57
global traditional political00:56:59
process, this is unnatural, but we00:57:01
understand and our partners, by the way,00:57:03
understand that our toughness is due to the00:57:05
course of the war and losses which we00:57:09
carry It seems to me that both the Ukrainian00:57:11
government and the government of our00:57:13
partner countries have shown more00:57:15
than once that they clearly understand what is00:57:18
needed and are maximally00:57:21
interested in saturation. If we are00:57:23
now talking about the Ukrainian00:57:24
government, saturating the Ukrainian army with the00:57:27
necessary equipment, and the president00:57:29
constantly emphasizes this and I00:57:32
I repeat once again This is talk about00:57:34
someone refusing something or00:57:36
going somewhere in a different direction. They00:57:39
actually have a very strange nature00:57:41
because, firstly, they do not00:57:42
correspond to reality;00:57:43
just look at the amount of assistance00:57:45
that is provided secondly, they seem to be playing along with00:57:48
Russian history like00:57:50
Look, They themselves don’t want to00:57:52
fight anymore And you are saturating them with weapons But this00:57:54
looks strange00:57:55
Well, on the contrary, we always say that00:57:58
we are categorical in our desire to end00:58:01
this war correctly on the border of 91 by00:58:04
inflicting a whole a number of tactical00:58:06
defeats of Russia and for this we00:58:08
need these types of tools and00:58:11
everyone today is working with our partners00:58:14
and within the framework of the analysis of the war, the course of the war and00:58:17
within the framework of what we need. But this is an00:58:19
obvious thing. I don’t quite understand00:58:22
these information trends that should00:58:24
How would discredit either Ukraine00:58:26
or the United States Why if there are00:58:29
some logistical nuances, these are the00:58:31
logistical nuances, look again, I00:58:34
emphasize again, of course I would like to,00:58:36
you know, snap your fingers and tomorrow00:58:38
you will have all the attacks already in stock But this is00:58:41
a matter of dialogue, the question is that the world is not00:58:44
ready for this type of war, the world has00:58:46
not yet fully realized that Russia must00:58:48
lose because it is the country00:58:51
that must lose. And I will say this in00:58:53
every sense of the word and that there is no need to be00:58:55
afraid of this fact that Russia must00:58:57
lose and it seems to me that we have already00:59:00
proven this more than once and we continue00:59:02
to prove00:59:05
Well, to be honest,00:59:08
it was news for me too yesterday. Because I didn’t00:59:11
know that Ukraine was refusing reports00:59:13
because every day I heard00:59:16
Zelensky asking, you’re asking, everyone is asking00:59:20
where they can, they’re asking where they can’t, they’re already asking, I00:59:22
think there in some European countries in00:59:24
the capitals, the ears withered But Andrei00:59:27
Nikolaevich is this version A and it seemed to me00:59:31
that it was the same as asking00:59:34
a person to ask a person about you they didn’t00:59:38
give a billion dollars Why That’s why00:59:40
you didn’t ask for a billion dollars and00:59:44
why which ones you had means00:59:48
it doesn’t sound like that to you I’ll say it sounds like00:59:51
we’re negotiating about some kind of00:59:54
financial assistance, for example, and they ask you a00:59:56
question: Why did you refuse a billion00:59:57
dollars? You didn’t just ask for it, but why did01:00:00
you refuse? understand, it sounds like that’s01:00:02
exactly what this billion is01:00:04
being given to you by force. And you from you refuse it,01:00:06
but at the same time, in reality, the situation01:00:08
looks like Otherwise, we say that for01:00:11
this billion we need this and that, we01:00:13
begin to have a discussion with you We explain the01:00:15
need for this in this and in this the01:00:17
other side listens and gives its01:00:19
counterarguments in the end we are for this01:00:21
billion we get everything but it sounds like it’s being01:00:23
performed now Unfortunately Andrey01:00:25
Nikolaevich sounds very strange Why are01:00:28
you refusing a billion to whom we don’t01:00:30
refuse You are right we are on all platforms01:00:32
officially not officially in all01:00:34
negotiation groups we very clearly say01:00:36
that we need to achieve this we get it In the01:00:40
end this is what we wanted I would like to emphasize once again01:00:42
quickly, this is the only uh01:00:45
reproach that I can accept both01:00:48
towards us and towards our partners that it is still01:00:50
slower than we would like01:00:51
based on Well, the confluence of the intensity of the war,01:00:54
but again I understand the motivation for this01:00:57
slowness, if that’s possible say I01:01:00
understand that for this our partners01:01:02
have to extremely strongly01:01:05
evolve their own01:01:07
worldview and abandon those01:01:08
stereotypes, including in relation to01:01:10
Russia, in which they have lived for a long time.01:01:12
This is also scrupulous work and,01:01:15
by the way, they also do their work on themselves01:01:17
and on their mistakes, political01:01:19
mistakes and this is very good because at the same time01:01:22
we are changing the perception of the world01:01:23
and Russia, including the world today is ready01:01:26
for Russia to lose and go for01:01:29
transformation. Although six months ago I was01:01:32
categorically afraid to even think01:01:34
that we could return01:01:37
Crimea by military means. we can, relatively speaking,01:01:39
reach the borders of the ninety-first year01:01:40
that this will launch the process of internal01:01:43
transformation now in Russia, now the world is01:01:45
talking about this as a fact that is01:01:47
possible and a scenario that can definitely01:01:50
be implemented and, accordingly, gives01:01:52
us all the tools, it’s a matter of time Yes, it01:01:55
exists, but it’s not a question of what we refuse01:01:57
something or partners01:01:59
deliberately don’t give something,01:02:03
so actually I’ll continue because01:02:06
if I don’t continue a ton Nikolaevich01:02:08
will say that I didn’t ask his whole question01:02:10
in all its splendor because he01:02:13
started talking about the fact that linguis is01:02:16
free A here in the supplies that01:02:18
Ukraine is now receiving there is a hidden01:02:21
possibility of corruption, I then01:02:24
pleasantly tell him that you are saying that01:02:25
during this war the Ukrainian authorities01:02:27
are refusing free weapons01:02:30
in order to earn kickbacks, that’s all,01:02:33
and Zelensky and the Syros behind the ears, it all means01:02:36
God forbid you distorted mine words01:02:39
I just asked a question, it seems to me It’s01:02:42
strange that when a person hints at01:02:44
this But when they ask him, he immediately01:02:47
says No, I was just asking a question01:02:52
about why do01:02:55
n’t send it as a warship01:02:57
after all Answer the question under what01:03:00
programs weapons are supplied and01:03:03
whether it is at least one paid for the01:03:06
Ukrainian government, that is,01:03:08
there is at least one program that01:03:11
gives Ukraine money so that it01:03:13
can pay for something.01:03:16
So I answer all the key programs of the01:03:20
United States, free everything01:03:23
is transferred to us within the framework of just the same, so to01:03:26
speak, big Land01:03:28
Lease as such, everything goes to us for free;01:03:31
moreover, our partners01:03:34
buy some equipment for us if they01:03:36
lack something there, and so on and so forth,01:03:38
that is,01:03:40
no one transfers any money, no kickbacks with whom there01:03:42
is no additional Ukraine is looking in other01:03:46
countries not in those countries that, since the01:03:48
United States, help with large01:03:49
volume packages of additional01:03:52
capabilities, such as, for example, an01:03:53
additional volume of shells of01:03:56
certain calibers Well, because it is still01:03:58
constantly necessary, it is a consumable01:04:00
material, additionally looking for ammunition for01:04:03
small arms, these are millions of cartridges, you yourself01:04:06
understand, this must always be01:04:08
bought that is, some small01:04:10
individual consumables. Of course, we are01:04:14
looking if there are countries that do not01:04:16
want to be there, so to speak, within the framework of01:04:18
large volume01:04:20
Lend-Leases, let’s say, give us free help,01:04:23
we buy something, but many01:04:25
countries, I once again emphasize those that are01:04:27
publicly about this is announced first01:04:30
of all by Northern Europe, this is01:04:32
continental Europe, the United States, the01:04:34
undisputed leaders, transfers many aid packages to01:04:37
Ukraine exclusively free of charge01:04:40
because it understands the Cost of this war, the01:04:44
importance of saturating Ukraine with the necessary01:04:48
defensive and counter-offensive01:04:50
weapons and the importance of supporting Ukraine01:04:53
because this is a war of a much higher01:04:55
level than just there territory and01:04:58
so on and so forth, so it’s01:04:59
strange to hear a question from a person01:05:03
who says he doesn’t understand the mechanics of the01:05:06
fundamental component of military01:05:08
assistance provided by the coalition of01:05:10
Ukraine, that’s all01:05:15
Mikhail, I have a lot of comments here,01:05:18
listen to Larionova, don’t respect yourself,01:05:20
Illarionov says Well, here I won’t01:05:22
say what word says01:05:25
Illarionov, Larionov has a strange question and01:05:27
why does Yulia ask them? This is how Let’s01:05:29
discuss gossip, I’m asking them in this01:05:32
case because I was put in an01:05:34
absolutely hopeless situation. Because01:05:36
if I hadn’t asked them,01:05:40
Latynina hasn’t asked them yet. They even told her directly01:05:43
and she took it and I didn’t ask this is01:05:46
nothing more than a Masonic conspiracy, it01:05:49
means that’s01:05:51
good Andrei Nikolaevich asked questions I01:05:55
asked them, I think they are01:05:58
exhaustive01:05:59
You are absolutely right, we must answer01:06:02
all questions because it is important For us, the01:06:04
reputational components of transparency01:06:07
are the most important thing and I understand that Andrei01:06:10
Nikolaevich has the right to ask any01:06:11
questions I treated him in the wrong way something01:06:15
negative does we can answer01:06:17
any questions and are obliged as a state01:06:19
to answer any questions We01:06:21
do this, I just want us to always01:06:23
correctly record the final thoughts about the01:06:26
final thoughts in full they01:06:28
help us there is complete coordination in the01:06:30
product range, a lot of it is01:06:33
free within the framework of the Lend-Lease01:06:35
conditional Lend-Lease programs01:06:37
because the Lend-Lease is primarily a01:06:38
legal format for the01:06:40
state’s own internal market and thus01:06:43
we treat with great sympathy I how to01:06:46
finalize great sympathy01:06:48
We treat our partners,01:06:50
first of all, the United States, of course,01:06:51
as the leader in terms of the volume of what was transferred to us01:06:54
necessary for defensive01:06:55
counter-offensive actions01:06:59
in the method. He asks why I called01:07:02
Illarionov. I called Illarionov01:07:04
because he called and asked to be01:07:07
asked to go on air to discuss some01:07:11
important things, as he said. It seemed to me that01:07:14
if I refuse Andrei Nikolaevich, he01:07:17
will say that they don’t want to invite me Well,01:07:20
please, that’s why I called him, that’s why01:07:22
he took these questions, that’s why I01:07:25
asked Mikhail far away,01:07:29
I thank you Mikhail Yes,01:07:33
I’ll make a small remark Look, this is01:07:36
very correct Freedom of speech01:07:38
is full Yes it is and involves any01:07:40
dialogues and if people who have a01:07:43
certain early We have a certain01:07:45
reputation have questions that they01:07:47
doubt They want to ask them publicly They01:07:49
need to be listened to and they need to be01:07:52
answered then we can correctly01:07:54
form the information field so that there01:07:56
is no big speculation only That’s why01:07:59
I’m always ready to answer01:08:00
any questions, even difficult questions,01:08:02
because I think that much more can be achieved not with prohibitions, but with01:08:05
direct answers.01:08:12
Thank you very much, Larionov’s supporters write to me here01:08:15
that I have surpassed01:08:17
myself in the art of manipulation, while01:08:20
others, on the contrary, write Illarionov01:08:22
the Provocateur01:08:25
Thank you very much yes yes01:08:29
Mikhail Goodbye see you in a01:08:33
week01:08:35
and I’ll just remind our listeners01:08:39
that tomorrow we have an access code the day01:08:43
after tomorrow we will have Sveta’s Roman I hope01:08:47
that I’ll be on Monday if you want to01:08:50
talk about the persecution of Christians and the01:08:54
persecution of the unhappy love of peace and01:08:56
goodness01:08:57
Well this means how it’s like with Putin,01:09:00
he was always persecuted, boys01:09:02
were crucified in Slavyansk, there are many01:09:05
modern ideologies that01:09:07
tell what unfortunate01:09:09
persecutions they are, they are based on this01:09:12
Christian history and that’s why we’ll01:09:15
talk about its roots if you,01:09:19
Lord, are interested. If you are01:09:21
interested, then Write please01:09:25
in the comments it was Yulia Latynina01:09:29
It was Mikhail Podolyak Don’t forget01:09:32
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Михаил Подоляк. День 338. Новый пакет помощи. GLSDB поставят сразу. Саммит ЕС - Украину скоро примут в ЕС. Никаких переговоров с Путиным быть не может. Статья в Neue Zurcher Zeitung. Обыски. Наступление России. вопросы Илларионова и ленд-лиз. Обсуждаем с Михаилом Подоляком важнейшие события последних дней. Огромное спасибо всем, кто нам помогает: Помочь нашему каналу: Patreon https://www.patreon.com/join/3340678/checkout https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YQ6SDALR7UFAJ&source=url https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/latynina через ko-fi https://ko-fi.com/latynina1 Кроме этого, пожертвовать на развитие этого канала можно, зайдя на его главную страницу и нажав на кнопочку с синей головкой, расположенной справа вверху рядом с плашкой YL-сайт. Пожертвовать на развитие этого канала с карточки можно, зайдя на сайт https://latynina.tv/, и там вверху слева висит крупная кнопка донейт. Нам можно также пожертвовать деньги переводом на счет нашей организации LATYNINAORG MTÜ IBAN EE421010220274614225 SWIFT EEUHEE2X Bitcoin Address - bc1qltgykx93plrpp32ygktl4srzz4z5sa467ppafq bitcoincash:qq2uhptcx7qqxvtpgqs2spca6urgwuckxsc79vd39j Algo LXHCP5VLSULJTYNK3QXBXYA3YQ5RT7G3UKGKY4IDFAYGIKTDIO3SONPNNM Мой личный фейсбук https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser мой твиттер https://twitter.com/YLatynina Остальное ведет команда проекта https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Телеграмм - https://t.me/Ylatynina подписывайтесь Инстаграм latynina.tv https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser тикток latynina.tv здесь https://www.tiktok.com/@yulialatynina (подписывайтесь) страница в фейсбуке со всеми ссылками на видео и пр. Наш сайт https://www.latynina.tv/ Юлия Латынина объявлена иноагентом
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