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Good evening This is Yulia Latynina and

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Latynina TV and we have on air Abbas

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Galyamov, a famous political scientist

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with whom we will talk about the battle that

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begins in the Kremlin because after

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the defeat, we actually see ears even before

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the defeat, it all started, but after the

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defeat near Kharkov it began to spin in

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Hello

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And although we will discuss some

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very subtle things that

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only you notice and we will then move on to this. I

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can’t help but start with the question that everyone is

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discussing now, All Borisovna

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Pugacheva, who suddenly showed a

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huge figure of power and she

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did it 7 months after the start of

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the war, they immediately after its beginning

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and the

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first question is, don’t

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you think

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Alla Borisovna’s behavior is the

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deepest symptom of the fact that everything in the Kremlin

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finally doesn’t matter?

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Well, to a large extent, yes,

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Pugacheva in this sense is an important

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indicator. That is, she has always been a

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person who

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has a keen sense of the situation and

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sharp criticism of her side

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indicates that

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at least in the opinion of some people

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who know how to keep their nose to the wind,

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the situation for the Kremlin is

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getting worse and you can already argue with it;

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you can already criticize it in the public

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space. But Pugacheva’s statement is

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not just an indicator, it is also a factor

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that will contribute to the further

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deterioration of the situation

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for the Kremlin, you see,

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from the point of view of public opinion, it is

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extremely important to create a feeling that

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in politics the most important thing is dynamics. This

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feeling that someone’s positions

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are strengthening and someone else’s positions are weakening. Yes,

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and joining the

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critics of the regime of

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those people who were silent just yesterday is precisely what

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creates This is the feeling and

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Pugacheva This is not some ordinary

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figure Yes,

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if there is one

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in the country it is called consensus

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Leader of public opinion,

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everyone considers them to be leaders of public

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opinion, then Pugacheva is one of the few

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people

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whom the

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majority of Russians recognize for sure;

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I remember repeatedly there were all sorts of

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ratings of the most famous

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Russians by different In the media over the

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past decades, Pugacheva has

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always been present in them,

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and usually Well at the top Yes, and

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it’s difficult to ignore her in this sense,

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and here is the fact that she is not a

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political figure, she is not a politician And she

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suddenly becomes politicized, comes into politics

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and comes into politics with criticism regime,

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this is precisely a very

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important factor that will

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contribute to the politicization of those words of

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society that have hitherto been

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apolitical; you understand, authoritarianism

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is maintained to a large extent due to the

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apoliticality of people.

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Yes, this is not totalitarianism where, on the contrary,

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where all the masses must

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be politicized, all

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social processes must be viewed

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exclusively through policies where everyone

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must march in a single formation,

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sing anthems

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and constantly unite, in this

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sense, authoritarianism is exactly

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the opposite; this is when

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only the government is involved in politics; everyone

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else is not involved in politics and, in

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principle, is not even particularly interested. To a

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large extent, the Putin regime

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was maintained due to the apoliticality of the main

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groups of the population and Well, such a

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calmly indifferent attitude towards

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politics is enough. Yes, but now people are starting to become

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politicized, the mood is always

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accompanied by some politicization, these

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processes are now accelerating, that is, those

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people who yesterday were still

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satisfied with the

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state of affairs in the country, they now, you

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know,

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they already feel that their situation is no longer

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satisfactory They understand that the authorities

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violated the social contract that

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was once concluded with them, you know,

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there the authorities promised people two things,

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firstly, a

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more or less decent

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standard of living, and secondly, this

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feeling of belonging to a great power,

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now there is a problem with the wallpaper and especially

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after Kharkov, I don’t feel like

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I belong to a great power, it’s broken

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to pieces. Which means you yourself

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can see what’s happening with the standard of living, and this decline

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was accelerated by

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special operations, that is, people who

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previously gave politics over to

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the authorities, so to speak, they are now bullying

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countries and realizing that well it is necessary,

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and this means we need to become politicized, we need to

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start listening to what

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the opposition is saying, yes, and expressing your

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point of view is extremely unfavorable.

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For any authoritarian government in any

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situation, in principle, the process is in a situation

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when it is weakening, when it is

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surrounded by enemies, so to speak. Yes, this is not at all

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beneficial to the authorities and here such a Pugacheva

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opens the door to politics, she is

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also not a political figure and for people

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who are going to

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become politicized, Pugacheva responds with their

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mood for them, so the door leading to

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politics is opened by such a wolf Yes, and of

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course this in this sense is extremely

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unpleasant for

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authorities history Yes, many

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liberals rushed to criticize Pugacheva for her

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wording about how our

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boys are there, she said it

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means that

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she is there our guys, it means

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she should have written about the Ukrainians.

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Listen, the liberals are

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calling for repentance,

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there is no news

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and work for

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Pugacheva’s liberal audience there is no need to convince liberals, they are

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already against Putin against the war Yes,

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we need new audiences, we need new supporters,

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which means new supporters of the opposition, new

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opponents of the regime Yes, we need to look for new

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people because, well, the old ones are obviously not

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enough to overthrow the regime, it is

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still in its place Yes, and therefore,

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Pugacheva was not required to say

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those things that the noted

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opponents of the regime say, she is addressing another

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audience of that audience, there is no feeling of guilt,

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you understand politics cannot be demanded

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too much politics is the art

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of the possible Yes, this is what we want from these

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hesitant from this, as

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the technologies of the electoral swamp are sometimes expressed from

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this is what Surkov called the

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deep people

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who have always been loyal, most of them

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were loyal and that we want, first of all, for

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him to

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join the critics of the regime Okay, here’s

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Pugacheva and is looking for the shortest way to him,

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talk to him in his language, and

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what else are they there at the same time, they repented so that

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they still meet our

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high moral and ethical criteria,

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listen Well, you can’t want too

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much in politics. Situational

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allies are also important, not only

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like-minded people, you know with whom there is a

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feeling There are elbows of brotherhood and so on there

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is no If the operation is only for

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like-minded people you are the majority you

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never start Yes and in this Well, that is, when

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you, if you want, if a communicator

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wants to be effective, he must

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say things that to a significant

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extent, at least 90

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percent there, must say those things

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that correspond to the point of view

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of the audience, you cannot convince people

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at the same time on several points Putin is

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bad and you must repent there, this and

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10 will not work out, 90 percent of

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what they agree with and 10 percent about the fact

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that Putin is bad and war is bad That’s

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more than enough Yes, and well, that’s how

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practical politics is done and that’s

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how they are won by electoral companies,

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for example, in this sense Well, criticism of

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Pugacheva’s criticism, despite the fact that from the

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moral point of view of these

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critics I perfectly understand, but from the point

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of view I will almost

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never demolish

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Well, yes, yes to a significant extent. You

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formulated what I was going to

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say, only I’ve been talking for a long time

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and I want move on to another important

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developed feature, about a week ago

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I quoted this during access, you

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talked about information leaks from the

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Kremlin and wrote that after becoming president,

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Putin dealt with the institution of leaks under Yeltsin in the most brutal way

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and that after that nothing came from the Kremlin

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if anything flowed, it was something

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that was agreed upon with the authorities. And

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now the Kremlin is again flowing like a sieve and

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they made the conclusion that they quote the bureaucracy is

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moving into the mode of independent games, and it is precisely

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such things that precede

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the revolution,

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and so I want to ask what games and

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what exactly it flows away and here Tell me

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examples

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Oh, well, it actually flows like a sieve Yes, this is

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really for people who, so

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to speak, are inside the politics of the process, that is,

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Maybe from somewhere else it’s not very

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noticeable Yes, but for those who are inside Well, of course,

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this process cannot help but catch the eye of this

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process in the spring So to speak, it was

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only planned, but in the summer, when it coincided

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with the growing understanding that there was no sign of Victory

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ahead, serious problems lay ahead. That’s when it

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all started,

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officials decide, officials allow, organize

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the leak, solve

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a lot of problems, the first thing that I

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remember

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most is the

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double leak of real data data of

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public sentiment that was

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very different

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data that was very different

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from what the officials there

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are trying to explain to us through the mouths of the officials the leak

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occurred in July first there was a

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presentation by VCIOM in general he did a

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study on attitudes towards the war and

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published it

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publicly he This story should not have been

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published a closed study

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commissioned by the Kremlin And then from the

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Kremlin, first part of the presentation was leaked

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to the jellyfish and then a few days later,

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apparently the officials who made this

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leak realized that well, the taxi bomb did not

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explode and

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organized

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leak number two, the entire presentation was leaked to

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the publication,

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that is, this fact of duality the

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fact that this is not an accident, too, when it

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leaked once. Well, sometimes such

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stories happen by chance, it’s warm, but when two parts

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in a row. Well, obviously people were counting

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on

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maximum resonance, that is, they wanted to

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quietly drain there at first, that is,

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a little bit. Yes, they saw that the resonance was

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small, they leaked a lot there, well, the data was to a

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significant extent. But if not

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sensational, but sensational, then very

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encouraging for the opposition, that

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is, the authorities there told us from the first day of the war

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that 80 percent of the population

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supported against some renegades.

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So

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the data that leaked, I repeat,

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means they said that the number

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supporters of

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the war continuation of the war and supporters of

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peace negotiations were equal to each

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other

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by 43% or 44 to 44 I now forgot Well then,

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in any case, the number of supporters of the war is

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below 50 the number of supporters of peace

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negotiations is not lower than them why it was

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done but first of all Of course I

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think that this was an attempt to strike a blow

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at the camp of supporters of war to the bitter

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end,

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that is, after this leak,

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to say that the majority of people are in favor of

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continuing the war is somehow already ridiculous. I

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have information for people, for people

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who are in the subject, now everyone knows what the

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continuation of the war is not the majority, that is, the

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camp of supporters of peace negotiations,

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which was defeated in the mark when

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remember

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unity means the activity of the medical was

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curtailed when it was subjected to obstruction there,

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including in the media, the Kremlin

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apparatus

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And it disappeared from the radar, after that, for

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several months, the Kremlin

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was never dominated by the

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party of party supporters these Hawks

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who support the war Yes, but in July,

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with the help of these leaks, a

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very serious blow was dealt to them. Perhaps there were

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other motives for the people who

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organized this, perhaps you know, the

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people there are smart and they actually

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understand where all this is going. Yes, and they

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they can’t do anything about it But for themselves,

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for the future, they are trying to provide some kind of security in case of

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Gaga. Perhaps they, in

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principle,

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are counting on the fact that when everything

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starts and everyone’s guilt will be

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sorted out in detail, they will

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count something

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that they well as a mitigating circumstance in fact,

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they were waging a guerrilla struggle

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inside, weakening the

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regime from within. I even wrote about this that it

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would probably make sense for the

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leader of the West to

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make some kind of appeal regarding the fact

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that

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cooperation with independent media

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that are subject to repression and

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pressure from the Russian regime

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for Russian officials will be

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considered as mitigating

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circumstances because objectively these

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things are

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significant, yes, their significance, thank you,

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but one cannot underestimate in the end

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politics is won by that force, the

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degree of internal integration

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which

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turns out to be higher than the degree of

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integration of the opposite

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camp, and all these internal

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squabbles, internal contradictions

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when they turn out to be in the public they

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contribute to the weakening of the position of the regime and

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they help to strengthen the position of the

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position, that is,

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regarding public opinion after

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this story, there are leaks there with a

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certain frequency, for example,

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regarding public opinion in Kherson and

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Zaporozhye,

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the Kremlin is specially holding, you know,

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such a round table is going to mean

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there experts gather about the Kremlin

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who publish their data, data from

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public opinion polls,

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which means according to which there are

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some, you know, viral figures

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now I don’t remember exactly, there are several

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questions there at the same time

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that they did yes So there are 70 80 Well,

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like yes yes

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780 there somewhere like this, but literally

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there a few days before

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this event happened in jellyfish in the

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same leaks the

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real numbers of surveys that the cream itself

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conducted means and it says that

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30 percent said that they were in favor of

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joining Russia 30 said that

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they the rest abstained against and it was

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clearly formulated there. That is,

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these sources themselves say the

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Kremlin sources say that well, it

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must be taken into account that this is under

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occupation conditions under occupation conditions. It would seem that

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people should be afraid to say yes Yes, we are

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for Russia no, even under occupation conditions

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only 30 percent and 30 not be afraid

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to say that they are against Russia,

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despite the severity of the situation there,

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and these Kremlin sources

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conclude that Well, of course, for the

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normal holding of referendums, this is

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all not suitable, and that

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means the Kremlin with its right hand is trying to

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convince us that the Khersonians and

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Cossacks are sleeping there they can’t dream of

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joining Russia and he’s our left hand

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Through the drain Yes, in the independent media he

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explains to us that this is [ __ ], what

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my right hand is doing is nonsense, this is a scam, that

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means why this source is this,

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look at this most important question on

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which I’m racking my brains I think that,

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well, that is, I don’t rule out two things: first,

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Kiriyenko himself and there is

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some reason to assume that yes, he’s a

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commandant, he’s very dexterous, he

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carries with the wind like no one else, he

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became a liberal statist when it all

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just started when ours were there

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they invaded there and So they

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smashed everything around them to pieces. Well, Kiriyenko was running around there

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with this grandmother with a red flag,

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remember the interview. This is his

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strange news. Yes, where he

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also swore that Russia had come forever,

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this is how I understand him within the framework of the framework

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was screwed up But this

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Sorry, I think that in fact he

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was going to give it, it was just by accident, out of

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stupidity, their draft leaked and well,

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then he got it in the head and But initially

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he demonstrated his ambitions, this is

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some kind of they, I’m telling you it was

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a what do you call

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Okay, an

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information-psychological operation

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that was definitely not

00:21:19

Kiriyenko’s friends was not Kiriyenko’s friends was

00:21:22

arranged

00:21:24

Well, okay, let

00:21:27

me, I think differently

00:21:30

there I don’t know, will it be interesting for you to

00:21:32

listen or can you talismanize if

00:21:34

not then Let’s continue in any case

00:21:35

One is enough this story with this

00:21:38

grandmother with his trips to Kherson and with

00:21:40

his waving this red flag

00:21:42

to say that, well, initially he

00:21:43

supported this special operation and was very

00:21:45

active, including publicly in this

00:21:48

part, and And now he’s not doing anything like that,

00:21:52

and I think in in principle, he just understood

00:21:55

Which way the Wind is blowing Yes, and he is still trying

00:21:58

to organize a Peaceful process

00:22:01

of measurement. Well, that is, he no longer believes in the

00:22:03

possibility of winning with the help of

00:22:05

brutal force and that’s why he

00:22:08

sanctions these leaks so that in

00:22:12

the end the hawks won’t win

00:22:14

finally and so finally a victory

00:22:16

That is, I think the clients understand that the

00:22:17

hawks are leading

00:22:20

a collapse and strictly I agree with him here, but of

00:22:25

course I do not exclude the possibility that this is

00:22:27

leaking to a level lower and even two

00:22:29

levels lower, which means that this is the very

00:22:32

activity that he simply

00:22:34

cannot stop there are either heads of departments

00:22:36

or there are exam assistants, well, there are a lot of

00:22:39

people there, in principle, who have access to these

00:22:41

issues, including those who prepare them. Yes,

00:22:45

but in any case, it is clear that in this

00:22:49

internal political bloc of the Kremlin

00:22:51

there are very

00:22:54

serious

00:22:56

opponents

00:22:58

of officialdom, opponents of what is happening the

00:23:02

same way the most is and is visible to the government,

00:23:05

for example, here in bloomber kutek is a document

00:23:08

from the Ministry of Finance, yes, literally two days ago,

00:23:10

which means that it completely refutes

00:23:13

Putin, who just

00:23:15

once again declared the future in the Far

00:23:18

East, on this forum he speaks out

00:23:21

that there is nothing there

00:23:23

for Russia, everything is good, saving

00:23:26

brilliantly there she completely coped and and

00:23:30

then this medical document leaks

00:23:32

where it is said that Russia

00:23:33

has lost hundreds of billions of dollars as a result of the sanctions.

00:23:36

That is, not just some hundreds of

00:23:39

millions, but hundreds of

00:23:41

billions of dollars, huge money. And

00:23:45

in fact, they are the

00:23:48

boss there who inflicts it directly they take it and

00:23:51

say you’re lying, Vladimir Vladimirovich,

00:23:53

here are the documents of your own

00:23:57

government And these are also some kind of

00:24:01

independent games.

00:24:03

Well, in the case of the Ministry of Finance, I’m not sure, I don’t

00:24:07

know at all, in the case of Mishustin

00:24:11

No, he doesn’t yet give reason to

00:24:14

assume that he is brave In the sense of

00:24:17

political activity person That is,

00:24:20

he is very

00:24:22

commercially active, so to

00:24:25

speak, yes, you can even say

00:24:27

that he probably has very good

00:24:29

management. In any case, in the current

00:24:32

situation, I think no one

00:24:34

could do anything better than him. Well, suspect his

00:24:38

political activity in the apparatus In the

00:24:41

apparatus sense

00:24:43

Yes, he shows his teeth, remember, after

00:24:48

literally six months of working there, he

00:24:51

got rid of several of these

00:24:52

proteges of oligarchic groups

00:24:54

that the government was digging in.

00:24:56

Yes, Timchenko’s people are there, people. That

00:24:59

is, it was a serious apparatus

00:25:01

story. But in this case, when you are

00:25:04

groups around Putin’s groups,

00:25:10

but because when we We say Oligarchs,

00:25:13

we have the impression that these are the people of

00:25:15

Abramovich and Friedman, I believe that the

00:25:19

real real oligarchs are

00:25:22

Timchenko and Rotenberg Abramovich and

00:25:23

Fridman have not been oligarchs for a long time, not just

00:25:25

very rich people. They were oligarchs

00:25:27

in the nineties, here are many. I understood you

00:25:32

boat, you are the mistress of the program, I tried

00:25:34

to use your a-a terminology, these are

00:25:36

people members of Putin’s Politburo, let’s

00:25:38

have such a concept and he wasn’t

00:25:44

afraid

00:25:45

Yes, he wasn’t afraid to purge them Well, maybe

00:25:48

he ate it too harshly, I think

00:25:50

he just took advantage of

00:25:51

the situation, that is, as they say,

00:25:53

push the falling one there

00:25:55

apparently there were some problems after all, just

00:25:57

so to speak, he pushed his shoulder Well, that

00:26:00

is, he is capable of this But in this

00:26:02

case we are not talking about this, not about some kind of

00:26:04

hardware history, not about the

00:26:05

intrigues of the palace people Yes, it’s still you who are

00:26:08

hitting according to the positions of the

00:26:10

boss already in the public-political

00:26:12

space In general, I have no reason to

00:26:14

suspect

00:26:16

Mishustin personally in this Yes, personally, but although

00:26:20

I do not rule out that after all Well, maybe

00:26:23

he could just be a level below

00:26:26

someone Yes, but in any case

00:26:31

Well, this topic is not Sobyanin’s, strictly speaking, there is a

00:26:34

federal budget I want to discuss with us, we

00:26:38

just have a lot more to discuss.

00:26:41

And we’re almost on the air, at least we’ll talk about

00:26:44

very interesting things, I just

00:26:47

would like to meet the deadline. Well, about 20 minutes

00:26:51

left, and then we’re off to the

00:26:54

political heavyweights. Sobyanin,

00:26:57

what is he doing now, besides

00:27:03

all sorts of reminders about the letter Z and the war,

00:27:08

more precisely a special operation?

00:27:12

Well, that is, you are asking me especially

00:27:14

not in connection with leaks, but in general,

00:27:16

in his political positions,

00:27:19

his position is correct; he

00:27:21

is doing nothing;

00:27:23

well, in general, I think that he is one of the

00:27:27

most realistic candidates for

00:27:31

successor That is, I believe that the

00:27:36

successor project is the theme of the successor. It really

00:27:39

has a chance to become at the

00:27:43

center of the agenda in the near future and in the end it has a

00:27:45

chance to be implemented, that is, in the

00:27:48

current situation I really strongly

00:27:52

doubt that Putin will be able to

00:27:53

move before the fourth year, taking into account

00:27:56

the dynamics that we are seeing, yes

00:28:00

Well, not only is it difficult for him to get re-elected

00:28:02

now, and he won’t win the war, he can’t,

00:28:05

he needs to start negotiations with him at the

00:28:07

negotiating table, no one will sit down with a

00:28:09

successor who

00:28:11

hasn’t gotten his hands dirty, so to speak, it’s clear that it

00:28:14

will be Patrushev White with him

00:28:17

or Lavrov But no one will sit at the table with them either,

00:28:20

yes And if it is someone no

00:28:23

less related to the war Well, for example

00:28:25

Sobyanin Well, having a minimum degree,

00:28:27

it is clear that all of them there have nothing to do with this,

00:28:29

which means well, not at all There are

00:28:33

no people there who have nothing to do with all this, but you see

00:28:36

Sobyanin removed the letter Z from Moscow and

00:28:39

initially he didn’t hang it up very much and

00:28:41

then he removed the remains in general, even

00:28:42

remember Mironov from Fair

00:28:46

Russia complained that a Moscow official was

00:28:47

forcing him to remove it

00:28:50

from the party office So Sobyanin, in principle,

00:28:54

seems to me to be a completely realistic

00:28:57

option,

00:29:00

and so he is,

00:29:01

of course, Well done. That is, I don’t want

00:29:06

it to look like I’m

00:29:09

advertising him. I also have several

00:29:11

candidates for successors no worse than

00:29:14

Sobyanin, but in principle I can’t help but

00:29:18

appreciate

00:29:19

Dmitry Kozak, for example, but I can’t help but

00:29:22

appreciate the fact that

00:29:27

Sobyanin behaves much smarter than

00:29:30

most of these

00:29:33

idiots. That is, he understands in general what

00:29:36

it smells like, he doesn’t like it all and

00:29:40

he distances himself from all this,

00:29:43

of course he’s lucky that he leads so

00:29:47

Skeptical about all

00:29:50

this

00:29:51

Muscovites, and he has it,

00:29:54

no kirienta there, I think I

00:29:59

was glad of him for all this letter Z, but

00:30:03

Sobyanin has a reinforced concrete hardware

00:30:07

argument, listen, come on, here I have it.

00:30:09

Well, you yourself know I have it there - We’ll

00:30:11

arrest Golunov for any reason.

00:30:14

Yes, no one can even think about there’s a

00:30:17

protest. Navalny flew in and was arrested.

00:30:19

Then for three months Moscow stood on its ears

00:30:22

or for the elections to the Moscow City Council, in the

00:30:24

end, remember who was interested in

00:30:26

the Turdum and then suddenly it rushed and for three

00:30:29

months they couldn’t do anything with this is

00:30:30

why Let’s not let it be

00:30:33

Dashing While the Kirients are sleeping quietly and in

00:30:35

principle but can’t do anything

00:30:37

Because if it’s sold again

00:30:40

and then that’s all when something starts but

00:30:43

the responsibility is already on the Kirients and Putin, it’s

00:30:46

more likely that there’s a revolution here, that’s why

00:30:50

Kirenko doesn’t go in the direction of Sobyanin,

00:30:53

but Sobyanin, taking advantage of this

00:30:55

opportunity, stands aside all of what

00:30:58

is called white

00:31:00

Yes, and he becomes, in principle, among

00:31:03

all the Elites, when they are immediately confused,

00:31:05

they see that Well, clearly the system, so

00:31:09

to speak, is degrading, is not coping with the

00:31:13

tasks at hand, is not coping with challenges

00:31:15

that mean more and more and Well,

00:31:19

she begins to look around

00:31:20

She sees that Putin is inadequate in the

00:31:22

end Well, that is, his armies are fleeing,

00:31:25

abandoning equipment and teachers, which means there are

00:31:27

local collaborators there to be torn to pieces by the

00:31:29

Nazis, abandoning those essentially for

00:31:32

whom they came there before their own people, we don’t abandon them,

00:31:34

they went to drink their breasts, they

00:31:37

abandoned everyone there, which means that

00:31:41

at that moment he

00:31:44

sets off fireworks there and then goes to

00:31:47

completely unnecessarily,

00:31:51

which means Central Asia is there for this summit,

00:31:54

this SCO, nothing breakthrough is

00:31:57

happening there Well, that is, Well obviously it is necessary to save at

00:32:01

the front, but he, well, in fact, like an ostrich,

00:32:04

hides his head in the sand, but everyone was still

00:32:05

indignant. Even this

00:32:09

patriotic public, of course, the

00:32:12

apparatus registers such things. Yes, and he

00:32:15

understands that the boss is

00:32:16

clearly not coping with his tasks, they

00:32:18

begin to look around and who If only Sobyanin

00:32:19

could have saved the situation, and in this

00:32:23

sense, Sobyanin now seems to be quite a

00:32:29

positive figure, he exudes

00:32:32

confidence and he is not involved in this whole principle; he is not dirty, that

00:32:36

is, everyone

00:32:40

else there means they have already disgraced themselves,

00:32:43

it is called, but he is not, and

00:32:46

in this sense, he is generally strong. Well I

00:32:49

still didn’t want my

00:32:50

Monday to turn out like this,

00:32:58

you will now be

00:33:01

unable to sing Monday with another person

00:33:04

because we were just talking

00:33:06

about those people who,

00:33:08

regardless of their personal moral

00:33:10

qualities, are clearly not happy with the fact

00:33:12

that is happening Kiriyenko Mishustin Sobyanin

00:33:16

and But there are other people You have already told the

00:33:20

patriotic public that

00:33:22

Putin is criticized from the right and there are

00:33:27

other leaks. I mean in particular the

00:33:29

video of Prigozhin and as the Concord service said, the Concord

00:33:34

press service of a person

00:33:38

monstrously similar to Prigogine who

00:33:40

says I have there are tanks, I am a

00:33:42

representative of Wagner, he recruits these

00:33:44

prisoners, explains to them that he has his own

00:33:48

private army, and we just

00:33:52

discussed this together with Vladimir Vasechkin,

00:33:53

who by the way says that, according to his

00:33:56

information, this video was really a

00:33:59

leak. Eh, that Vsenovtsy will be filmed there now

00:34:01

for this video that it

00:34:04

leaked, but nevertheless, Igor

00:34:08

Ivanovich Strelkov is already talking about Prigozhin, the

00:34:11

Wagner group fights best of all,

00:34:13

by the way, as a person watching what is

00:34:15

happening physically on the

00:34:17

battlefield, I even have to confirm that

00:34:20

this is true and that it is the most combat-ready

00:34:22

unit and accordingly a question is born. But here is

00:34:27

Prigozhin’s face profile on the posters of the

00:34:31

Wagner group. Is this also an application for

00:34:35

leadership or is it just a sign

00:34:40

that everything is very bad,

00:34:43

everything is very bad on the battlefield and

00:34:47

Prigozhin is trying with all his might to help

00:34:49

Putin or is this an application for independence

00:34:52

leadership and the same question concerns

00:34:55

Kadyrov.

00:34:57

Well, in the case of Prigozhin, I think I’m almost

00:35:01

sure that this is his own

00:35:04

initiative, he’s an ambitious person, he’s

00:35:08

prone to adventurism. It’s absolutely

00:35:11

obvious, and

00:35:13

this leak of this recording

00:35:17

was organized by him.

00:35:19

Well, just enough to see how

00:35:22

he’s doing there. flaunts these words of his that

00:35:25

mean

00:35:27

that a

00:35:30

marauder is unacceptable as a marauder,

00:35:35

and there are sexual contacts with the local

00:35:38

population with local women, well, that

00:35:42

is, such

00:35:45

Yes, well, in general, you know, Rubin Hood,

00:35:50

which means he will not offend the weak, such a

00:35:53

defender of the fatherland That is, he

00:35:55

I felt that a power vacuum had formed in the country. What does it mean that the

00:36:01

regime is clearly unable to cope with the tasks it

00:36:05

faces within the framework of this war?

00:36:09

That the people are looking around and

00:36:11

looking for where that dusty Bogatyr is

00:36:14

who will come and save, so to speak.

00:36:16

Yes, and Prigogine, he has political

00:36:19

ambitions and so to speak this and it was

00:36:23

noticeable before Yes, and uh, now he

00:36:27

Apparently decided to go to the bank, you know

00:36:31

that Well, who will stop him

00:36:33

and

00:36:36

he is trying to offer himself This is the

00:36:40

most disappointed patriotic

00:36:42

public You see, you say there are

00:36:43

shooters there already Satisfied with

00:36:45

the vacuum, he should

00:36:49

Nature itself does not tolerate being filled with a vacuum.

00:36:51

And that’s why he’s eager, which

00:36:57

means he’s trying to

00:37:00

expand into the public

00:37:03

political space. I don’t know. Does

00:37:05

he see himself as a future president?

00:37:08

Judging by the ambitions he has,

00:37:11

in principle Well, maybe he’s counting on this.

00:37:15

Well, in any case,

00:37:17

probably even if he’s not the president, then he

00:37:20

probably wants

00:37:23

a party there, for example, that

00:37:25

means gathering this entire

00:37:29

disillusioned patriotic

00:37:30

electorate for himself, you know, he’s still

00:37:35

quite

00:37:37

weak from a political point of view, the apparatus is

00:37:40

populated Yes, he’s strong in the physical sense

00:37:45

on the formation, but

00:37:48

in a public political sense, he is

00:37:50

absolutely defenseless in the event of the fall of the

00:37:52

regime of the

00:37:54

new government, no matter who they turn out to be. They will

00:37:57

gladly

00:37:59

hand him over, that is, Prigozhin

00:38:02

annoys everyone and infuriates different groups for

00:38:06

various reasons, but in general, such a

00:38:07

recognized evil and after the fall of the regime

00:38:10

than to defend it, but it’s easier to

00:38:14

throw the people’s nest into the firebox and no

00:38:19

one will save it, that is, within the framework of the

00:38:21

current relations that Putin

00:38:24

has built. Yes, he is well covered. He has a

00:38:26

personal relationship with the president and so

00:38:28

on, but if there is no president, the system

00:38:30

falls apart and someone the other one will come,

00:38:32

it will be Navalny. Be it Sobyanin there.

00:38:34

Yes, but Prigozhin, in any case, you already see that he is

00:38:37

defenseless, uh, in the political sense,

00:38:39

against a large number of enemies, yes, and he

00:38:42

will definitely go to jail, and that’s why

00:38:45

he’s trying to cover you up politically

00:38:48

for the future, but is it

00:38:51

then possible to formulate what

00:38:55

it turns out this configuration is conditional

00:38:57

Prigozhin against conditional Sobyanin

00:39:00

Yes, in principle it is possible

00:39:04

Yes yes this is quite an opinion win

00:39:10

Oh well it all depends on Yulia from it is

00:39:13

impossible to predict with confidence now

00:39:15

because the configuration has not yet been

00:39:17

determined in the end Putin is still

00:39:19

president and how he will leave

00:39:21

voluntarily or, relatively speaking, having chosen

00:39:24

Sobyanin, if he leaves voluntarily, he will choose

00:39:26

Sobyanin But then the proposed one has

00:39:27

no chance And if, for example,

00:39:30

he leaves, he sits until the last minute and

00:39:33

then

00:39:34

some kind of orange

00:39:37

scenario begins, the system collapses there and that’s it

00:39:40

And then Well, conditionally, this is 17 years before

00:39:44

between in February, who will win in October, the

00:39:47

devil knows No now Julia, this is not

00:39:50

real I would really like to predict I

00:39:53

can sit and dream for a long time without

00:39:55

rushing to discuss the factors there,

00:39:57

list them, but in general this is still a

00:40:00

configuration It

00:40:03

all depends on whether everything is there

00:40:06

now yes or no who is in in the end

00:40:08

he wins the war If suddenly, unexpectedly Well,

00:40:10

I don’t know, a miracle will happen and how ours

00:40:12

will take it there and Wagner

00:40:14

will win there too, and suddenly Zelensky will interrogate

00:40:16

the world and that means that on our terms, on

00:40:19

Russia’s terms, Putin

00:40:21

will conclude this peace Well, that’s a completely different story you

00:40:23

understand, yes,

00:40:25

they can still

00:40:28

stand up. And I’ll tell you

00:40:32

the following: Kherson will fall within a

00:40:34

few months. But remember my

00:40:37

word, within a week, maximum two,

00:40:41

on some sector of the front, we

00:40:44

can bet that most

00:40:48

likely it will be somewhere- something from Volnovakha

00:40:51

to Vasilievka, but I do not rule out that it

00:40:53

will be in Iran, Lugansk, a new

00:40:56

universal drape will happen, it will be just a drape

00:40:59

because I am responsible for my words,

00:41:02

if their scoliburs are accurate shells peeling

00:41:07

buildings in Donetsk in the same Kherson,

00:41:11

then you can imagine what they they do it at

00:41:14

the front because, as it were, the

00:41:16

administration building is redundant. It’s not

00:41:18

exactly a military church legitimate, but

00:41:21

it doesn’t bring much benefit from

00:41:24

thoughts of the extermination of manpower. But

00:41:30

I, Frankly speaking, believe that the

00:41:33

political market has already laid down what

00:41:36

I’m talking about in my future considerations

00:41:40

I don’t know if people were brains or if people were considered

00:41:43

[ __ ], but they understand that now there

00:41:46

will be a situation Well, roughly speaking, in the

00:41:48

seventeenth year, when people will

00:41:52

say just why fight and run away. And

00:41:56

I can tell you one more important

00:41:58

developed sign. Sorry that now the

00:42:00

blanket has pulled a little over itself But this

00:42:02

important for political forecasts

00:42:05

because this very third corps, which

00:42:07

should have already entered the war on the eve of

00:42:11

the defeat, they pretend that

00:42:14

something has fallen off there and absolutely sabotage the

00:42:20

issue of actually advancing to the front in the same way as Putin’s officials

00:42:23

without refusing to fight,

00:42:25

but in this sense, I have the following. It

00:42:28

was a long question,

00:42:31

because it’s just in the program that all

00:42:34

this stuff is going on, you said that

00:42:35

Ukraine’s offensive near Kharkov

00:42:37

turned out to be a surprise for the

00:42:39

Kremlin elite and, accordingly,

00:42:42

I have a question,

00:42:43

but How Putin is here again Sorry

00:42:49

to myself, my beloved,

00:42:51

Ellarion and I were arguing here a

00:42:54

few weeks ago and I said that

00:42:56

when the bridges near Kherson were gouged, it

00:42:59

was already a

00:43:02

turning point in the war, but

00:43:07

did Putin understand this and did his entourage understand this

00:43:10

because that’s what they are, that’s what is

00:43:15

for them the counter-offensive was

00:43:17

a surprise Do they really

00:43:23

believe so much in the very fairy tales that they

00:43:27

compose for Putin they and Putin himself

00:43:29

how adequately do they assess

00:43:32

the situation

00:43:35

each of them individually he may not

00:43:38

believe

00:43:39

Yes this But his own personal

00:43:43

opinion is not expressed anywhere it

00:43:45

is not strictly speaking political

00:43:47

the factor is the factor of personal life Yes,

00:43:51

but the political factor is only

00:43:54

what you say Well, either in public

00:43:57

space or not even in public

00:43:59

space, but there are

00:44:03

offices where

00:44:06

decisions are made at the meeting And this is

00:44:11

a feature Why

00:44:18

vision

00:44:20

within the framework of authoritarianism within the framework of

00:44:23

democracy is a person who has the

00:44:25

opposite point of view Well, you

00:44:27

can call him a fool and not a

00:44:28

professional, but you can’t accuse

00:44:30

him of changing

00:44:34

accordingly. Even if I personally am a

00:44:37

participant in, let’s say, the Kremlin meetings, I

00:44:39

personally believe that there is a risk of an attack by the

00:44:42

Ukrainians. I can’t say this publicly.

00:44:45

Well, I can’t even

00:44:47

voice it in a public meeting. Because that I’ll immediately

00:44:50

put myself

00:44:51

under pressure to criticize my hardware

00:44:54

opponents and I’ll definitely be devoured by them,

00:44:58

they’re just saying, what are you saying, didn’t you

00:45:01

hear what

00:45:02

I spoke yesterday and what I’ll tell them? Yes, he lied

00:45:05

unrealistically.

00:45:07

That is, I agree,

00:45:13

we’ll fail, it’s not clear that they’ll devour me there.

00:45:16

no more fortune tellers Yes, and in the

00:45:21

place of each of them there are at

00:45:23

least several other people aimed at, and

00:45:25

each of them is one against several. And

00:45:29

as soon as he opens a gap in the defense somewhere,

00:45:32

and therefore, so

00:45:34

that he is not devoured, this gap

00:45:36

should not exist and therefore, at every

00:45:39

meeting I have to stupidly duplicate what

00:45:42

the boss says there, you know, and they are

00:45:45

all together When making a Decision, this

00:45:48

reproduces this very

00:45:50

Kremlin discourse, you know, as he once said

00:45:54

Propaganda differs from other types of

00:45:56

products in that sooner or later the

00:45:59

producer himself begins to consume it

00:46:00

in its pure form, they begin

00:46:04

to reproduce that same discourse

00:46:06

that they seem to be doing out there.

00:46:09

It would seem that, theoretically, it could

00:46:11

be that when we go out in public, we

00:46:13

say one thing, when we just lock ourselves

00:46:14

in the office, we say things like this, guys,

00:46:18

let’s do this. Stop wagging your tongue. Let’s go

00:46:21

there. to speak honestly to the matter. Let

00:46:25

me remind you that I worked for

00:46:30

three years in

00:46:32

federal structures, a year in the

00:46:35

presidential administration and two years in the

00:46:36

government apparatus, I attended

00:46:38

dozens of

00:46:39

meetings,

00:46:41

if not Sotnik, even at which it means that

00:46:45

Putin speaks first, the journalists

00:46:48

are present, after that Putin’s

00:46:50

opening speech is over, the

00:46:51

journalists leave and continue there is an

00:46:56

honest discussion This is where everyone

00:47:01

seems to be There are no journalists, all of them are our

00:47:03

own Let's talk honestly about

00:47:06

the problems There has never been a

00:47:08

problem after that the journalists began to speak honestly about the problem There

00:47:10

were journalists who were not there

00:47:12

practically without any changes That's how

00:47:16

this one was persecuted

00:47:18

and continued to

00:47:21

drive, you know,

00:47:24

and that’s why Yes, they turned out to be hostages,

00:47:28

created by their own design in

00:47:32

order to honestly discuss real

00:47:35

problems in their own way, you know, you have to really trust each other,

00:47:39

they don’t trust each other, you know,

00:47:42

yes, and that’s why they are insured for me

00:47:45

personally, the defeat of

00:47:47

our units there at the front is less of a problem

00:47:51

than

00:47:52

expose myself to the fire of criticism from a neighbor

00:47:56

if my neighbor flies me away, no loyalty,

00:47:58

you understand

00:48:03

well then I have a question: But

00:48:06

if, on the one hand, in the depths of their souls they

00:48:08

understand that everything is coming, this is what

00:48:11

Putin said, rubber

00:48:14

butt,

00:48:15

then how will they try to do the

00:48:20

successor of the same Sobyanin or

00:48:23

Mishustin or Kiriyenko, this requires

00:48:26

much more courage than to say to

00:48:28

Vladimir Vladimirovich Sorry

00:48:30

here,

00:48:33

but in

00:48:38

fact, of course.

00:48:41

Therefore, in fact, the process has

00:48:43

not yet begun, in any case, traces

00:48:45

of it are not visible, but precisely because that it’s

00:48:48

just scary, but at some point

00:48:51

Putin will weaken so much that they will be

00:48:54

afraid of him less than the

00:48:56

Ukrainians there Gaga You see, that’s when

00:48:59

it all starts,

00:49:01

or this is according to my assumptions It

00:49:05

should be if everything developed

00:49:07

conservatively, then I would assume that

00:49:09

all this doesn’t start before March Because

00:49:11

now Putin has another

00:49:13

six months of reserve because he has now

00:49:17

come up with this new one So it’s a trap

00:49:20

like we’ll freeze Europe there without our

00:49:22

oil and gas, they’ll freeze there and howl there, they’ll crawl there

00:49:25

on our knees, they’ll

00:49:27

stop financing and supplying

00:49:30

weapons to Ukraine Ukraine will be blown away and we

00:49:32

won Yes And with his help he created

00:49:36

expectations That the des haven’t lost yet Yes, in the

00:49:39

military sense of the word it didn’t

00:49:42

work out very well for us, but in the end, oil and gas are

00:49:44

our Main weapon Yes, and Moroz, the governor,

00:49:46

so to speak, is the eternal ally of the Russians,

00:49:49

winter and

00:49:53

but also in the Kremlin public space,

00:49:56

of course that is, the thesis that

00:50:02

they actually don’t have

00:50:05

much difference between public space and the

00:50:07

Kremlin; Gazprom is already filming videos for

00:50:11

Europe, and this is actually a very

00:50:16

important thing for them because, within the framework of the

00:50:18

previous concept, we will now take Kiev in three

00:50:20

days they suffered a completely

00:50:22

obvious failure there, it’s time to

00:50:23

present the result, but no, yes, and this is already

00:50:26

obvious evidence of the sharp

00:50:28

weakening of Putin’s Kremlin, now

00:50:33

the result has appeared now, you don’t have to present the result,

00:50:35

you know, yes, you can talk, but wait

00:50:37

now and we will wait for patience and the truth is the

00:50:41

Ukrainians Of course, with this

00:50:44

retreat of yours to the patients so to speak, they were

00:50:46

very

00:50:47

dishonest towards Putin, they acted like this,

00:50:50

they returned it to the framework of this

00:50:52

number one concept about the war,

00:50:54

they reminded that in general we are talking about not

00:50:56

some kind of oil and gas real war,

00:51:00

and not something with Europe, you are going to

00:51:04

freeze it,

00:51:06

they themselves are to blame, that is, the Kremlin itself.

00:51:09

So you took it for some reason, you took it until now,

00:51:12

using words

00:51:13

to prove, within the framework of the policy

00:51:16

that has existed for 20 years, that the Kremlin is

00:51:19

bad, wrong, loses, weak, and so

00:51:22

on was impossible.

00:51:29

Then they just took politics.

00:51:32

translated into a form where the word

00:51:33

doesn’t matter, where for the first time the

00:51:35

deed finally matters, and suddenly they found out

00:51:39

that all of them,

00:51:40

yes, that is, suddenly all of

00:51:44

Putin’s statements ceased to matter for some reason.

00:51:45

So, of course, they are shocked, but

00:51:48

they are the problem themselves they created for themselves in

00:51:51

short, rewinding a little back. That’s

00:51:56

when Putin will truly weaken as a

00:52:00

result of the next counter-

00:52:01

offensive which they just

00:52:03

said will happen as a

00:52:06

result, which means that Europe’s refusal

00:52:10

to freeze in March, for example, that is, for

00:52:12

example, the front will still be

00:52:14

stabilized by our Russians. Well

00:52:16

then, that means, until spring, all this

00:52:20

will be postponed, yes, but in the spring, when it becomes

00:52:22

clear that Europe did not kneel and

00:52:24

And all this oil and gas weapons are an

00:52:26

infectious thing, there will be no more chances,

00:52:28

that is, they will all reconfigure themselves

00:52:30

to alternative flows and next

00:52:33

winter they will overwinter the business But our

00:52:35

market has disappeared Yes And then when Putin

00:52:38

suddenly there will be this collapse, so to

00:52:42

speak, of his

00:52:43

legitimacy Yes, well, through the

00:52:45

loser of the next round, a powerful one,

00:52:47

such a last hope, so to speak,

00:52:50

then I think that they will stop being

00:52:52

afraid of him and then the topic of

00:52:55

his successor will already begin and they themselves can

00:52:59

begin to discuss it with him, they can throw it into

00:53:03

some other way through the public

00:53:05

space, for example, what am I doing, they

00:53:08

can in the end And in general, by

00:53:12

pushing Putin aside, they can play there, in

00:53:15

principle, without him, as it was in case

00:53:16

with Bulgaria When that regime was still alive

00:53:20

and uh the head ironed there his name

00:53:23

was forgotten long ago I read and the head of the

00:53:25

Bulgarian Foreign Ministry simply resigned

00:53:27

at the right moment in time literate and

00:53:31

criticized the living one and all the elites

00:53:33

because they already understood what they meant. we

00:53:37

forgot, they ran under us, it’s suitable for

00:53:41

me, he became the next head

00:53:43

of state. That is, and such options,

00:53:46

in principle, there are probably many options, and

00:53:48

one of the Western leaders can

00:53:49

introduce this concept within the framework, so to speak, of

00:53:52

some kind of big package agreement.

00:53:53

Let’s normalize the situation of the fool

00:53:56

fool around offering a successor to leave, and well,

00:53:59

there’s still a bunch of packages and Putin himself can

00:54:01

understand that everything is already caked in. That it’s better to

00:54:05

leave on time in the hope of saving the post for a

00:54:08

successor with whom, so to speak, after all.

00:54:09

Well, there will be some kind of agreements, and why

00:54:12

risk repeating the fate there

00:54:15

for example, yes Or a

00:54:18

foreigner

00:54:20

That is,

00:54:22

you are right while they are afraid of him, but as they

00:54:26

relax they will be They will

00:54:28

stop being afraid of him they have what to

00:54:30

lose they need to understand That’s what they

00:54:32

need to save the system otherwise the system will

00:54:34

collapse Well, they too will be buried there in

00:54:36

holes and that’s why they were used to

00:54:40

not always putting it on Putin, but

00:54:43

it was Putin’s responsibility

00:54:44

to preserve the system, and now suddenly they

00:54:46

realized that it was their concern, in fact, that

00:54:48

Putin was no longer up to the task. Yes And now

00:54:51

they have to become subjects for the first time in their

00:54:53

lives.

00:54:55

Yes, I have then last but very

00:54:58

important question. You say that

00:55:00

officials who are used to lying in their offices

00:55:04

at meetings are

00:55:08

not yet ready for anything. But you don’t have the feeling that it is the

00:55:12

power component, for example the

00:55:15

same Prigogine, that they may

00:55:18

be much more ready because they are

00:55:20

doctors used to much less,

00:55:23

they deal with the power component of

00:55:27

the process, and in this case, in the

00:55:31

conditional version of Sobyanin and conditional Prigozhin,

00:55:33

conditionally Prigogine has a huge Handicap

00:55:39

Well, Prigozhin, you know, he is not

00:55:42

analyzed. In the end,

00:55:45

well, a person speaking on behalf of

00:55:47

the state, even if this state is

00:55:50

weakening he still has a greater chance of

00:55:54

winning

00:55:56

Yes, in the end But in a physical

00:56:00

confrontation, the

00:56:03

officially armed forces will most likely

00:56:05

win against some such

00:56:08

bank of formations. Well, for a short

00:56:11

period of time, some

00:56:13

specific territories of

00:56:14

the formation may

00:56:17

seize power, but in the end In our country, it’s

00:56:19

still not as good as in Africa

00:56:22

in Africa. Yes, there, in principle, in conditions of

00:56:24

complete paralysis of the state

00:56:27

of state institutions,

00:56:31

there really is. Whoever has the army is

00:56:35

the winner, yes, but here, well, it’s not just

00:56:39

the army that is physically needed. Well, there is the possibility

00:56:41

of initiating a criminal case there, for example

00:56:46

in in the end, that’s how they ask to control the media, yes,

00:56:53

yes, the factor of public opinion,

00:56:56

you understand. That is, each of these people are

00:57:00

Prigozhins. Yes, they are. Well, there they will

00:57:04

also look around and think about

00:57:06

who to get involved with. People basically still

00:57:08

rely on the

00:57:11

most a likely winner Yes, and in

00:57:15

this sense, Well, the conditional Sobyanin,

00:57:17

speaking on behalf of the state, will

00:57:19

still in the end appear

00:57:22

more likely to be the winner

00:57:23

than the conditional Prigozhin at the head of a gang

00:57:27

of thugs.

00:57:29

Therefore, I still think that in

00:57:33

the long term, Prigozhin has

00:57:35

no chance, which is why he actually speaking And he

00:57:37

organized this leak Yes, I think he

00:57:39

also understands that relying only on force is an

00:57:41

unreliable thing, so I

00:57:43

think he now wants to do PR for himself, to

00:57:47

bring the image of

00:57:50

the party of numerous supporters there in the

00:57:53

regions closer, and to become legalized in the form of

00:57:56

such a normal, respectable

00:57:59

politician, and well, there I do not rule out that

00:58:04

in this sense he will also be

00:58:06

more or less effective.

00:58:09

I absolutely do not believe that he can

00:58:13

win the presidential elections. I do not believe that he

00:58:16

can win the presidential elections.

00:58:18

Well, a niche that is shrinking may occupy some niche of its own;

00:58:22

here I turn to my own

00:58:24

favorite topic, the state of public

00:58:26

opinion, you need to understand that

00:58:28

Putin has discredited the very idea, it is generally

00:58:31

accepted that Russians love a strong hand

00:58:33

and to a large extent, but there is

00:58:36

logic in everything, there is a national archetype,

00:58:39

but Putin has discriminated this architect

00:58:42

so much that

00:58:44

when everything comes, movement will be

00:58:48

expressed by Russians with

00:58:51

their voices attitude towards strong

00:58:54

hands or some other

00:58:57

way of politicians,

00:59:00

they will understand that we had one

00:59:04

strong hand and how it all ended is

00:59:09

proof of this. They realized that strength

00:59:12

is not the only thing that

00:59:13

politics needs 20 years ago, against the backdrop of the

00:59:16

weak Yeltsin, that’s what they called Slava

00:59:18

Yeltsin appeared a strong Leader, it

00:59:20

seemed to them that this strong Leader is the

00:59:22

answer to all their problems. We will have a

00:59:24

strong Leader who will put things in order and everything

00:59:26

will be fine, now they know that things have not

00:59:28

become good, that is, for some moment it seemed to

00:59:30

be good, but now I things got bad again

00:59:32

and they realized that, well, strength is

00:59:35

not the only factor in politics. And

00:59:37

maybe it’s not even the main thing, maybe it

00:59:38

would be better if he took care of people,

00:59:40

so to speak, now the demand is growing for

00:59:44

politicians who are not strong, who flex their

00:59:47

muscles, but for such sympathizers

00:59:49

showing

00:59:51

concern for people who are sincerely interested in them

00:59:53

Well, Prigozhin is

00:59:56

not suitable for this role at all, that is,

00:59:58

Prigozhin is playing a game that is

01:00:03

but That is, he is playing a game in a clearing and an

01:00:08

electoral clearing that is narrowing,

01:00:09

even if he collects one hundred percent of the votes there

01:00:12

will be the most the strongest of all

01:00:14

contenders for the title of the strongest, the

01:00:18

clearing itself has shrunk and he still won’t get

01:00:22

half the votes in total there, just

01:00:26

like that

01:00:29

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01:00:32

was Yulia Latynina and baz Galimov

01:00:36

goodbye I hope not the last time

01:00:40

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