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Hello, my name is Ushakov Andrey. I00:00:07
am the chairman of the Almaty00:00:11
branch of the00:00:12
republican public00:00:14
association, the Trade Union of Employees of00:00:16
State Public Service Institutions.00:00:19
And today I want to tell you about our,00:00:23
so to speak, difficult00:00:25
Trade Union activities. In00:00:28
particular, I now have in my hands a00:00:30
regional agreement on social00:00:34
partnership signed between the Akimat of the00:00:35
city of Almaty. The trade union center of the00:00:38
city of Almaty is topped by the Almaty Union of00:00:41
Trade Unions and the association of legal00:00:44
entities, the national confederation of00:00:45
employers and entrepreneurs in brackets of the00:00:48
Republic of Kazakhstan for00:00:51
2021-2023,00:00:54
so this regional agreement, so that00:00:57
everyone understands, was concluded on the basis of a00:00:59
general agreement00:01:01
on social partnership, which is00:01:04
signed by both the00:01:08
government of the Republic of Kazakhstan00:01:11
and regional00:01:14
republican associations of00:01:15
Trade Unions, this is the00:01:19
FPRK, this is the confederation of Trade Unions of00:01:22
Kazakhstan and00:01:25
where we enter the Commonwealth of Trade Unions of00:01:29
Kazakhstan, namely, it was signed personally by00:01:32
Andrei Igorevich, and so I want to00:01:35
start by reading some excerpts00:01:37
from this regional agreement,00:01:41
which the word repeats the General00:01:43
Agreement. I looked, anyone who is curious can00:01:46
take an interest00:01:49
here. let's say section 2 social00:01:52
partnership, this is,00:01:54
first of all, the parties have assumed00:01:56
obligations to develop a social00:01:58
partnership aimed at00:02:00
complying with legislative and00:02:02
generally accepted international norms of rules;00:02:04
they interfere in the activities of the00:02:06
association of associations of trade00:02:08
unions and associations of00:02:10
associations of employers' unions without00:02:13
interfering with their creation and00:02:14
functioning of the development of the institution00:02:17
of bilateral social partnership in00:02:20
accordance with the conventions and00:02:21
recommendations of the international00:02:23
labor organization providing for the right of the parties,00:02:25
representatives of employers of workers,00:02:27
to jointly consider issues00:02:29
affecting the well-being of00:02:32
workers and increasing00:02:33
labor productivity,00:02:37
this agreement is valid in00:02:41
particular regional for all00:02:43
organizations of the enterprise within the framework of, so to00:02:48
speak, an00:02:49
administrative-territorial unit00:02:50
in in particular, the city of republican00:02:52
significance Almaty00:02:55
and it turns out, as I already said, it00:03:00
was signed on the basis of a general00:03:02
agreement that is already valid00:03:04
throughout the entire country, literally all00:03:07
the words are rewritten00:03:09
as on paper, as you see, everything is00:03:12
absolutely beautiful and looks magnificent.00:03:15
However, let’s listen to what it looks like in practice,00:03:19
in particular people who00:03:21
work directly with labor00:03:23
collectives directly work in the00:03:26
field I give my word to Itsakova May Hello,00:03:30
my name is May Isakova and in the spring I00:03:34
am now the chairman of the00:03:36
primary trade union organization of the00:03:38
Almaty International School and in the spring of00:03:41
2020 a group of 15 local00:03:44
employees began to resume, or rather,00:03:47
their fight for their rights We have been00:03:50
trying to conduct some kind of00:03:52
dialogue with our leadership for many, many years, and from time to00:03:56
time we achieved some00:03:57
small successes, but again and again we rolled00:04:01
back. In 2020, the00:04:04
initiative group began to conduct again,00:04:07
tried to negotiate again,00:04:09
began to correspond00:04:11
with the leadership if Don’t you suddenly00:04:14
know that almost all00:04:17
international schools in the world practice00:04:20
paying local employees several times00:04:23
lower than employees hired from00:04:26
abroad? And we don’t know how much00:04:29
our foreign colleagues earn, but00:04:33
our local colleagues, in principle, do not00:04:35
hesitate to talk about how much they00:04:36
earn. In the00:04:39
2021-22 school year, the average local00:04:42
employee earned $300-$500 per00:04:44
month,00:04:45
with few salaries reaching00:04:49
$1,000 per month00:04:50
this school year after a year of pressure00:04:53
from local employees. The average00:04:56
salary of local teaching00:04:58
assistants increased by about 1200:05:00
percent, this is the largest increase,00:05:02
as far as I know, in the entire history of00:05:04
our school And with the current level of00:05:07
price growth, the difference is eaten up instantly and I00:05:11
will give an example from us and this example is00:05:14
slightly modified in order to maintain the00:05:17
conferentiality of employees who00:05:19
share such stories, the00:05:22
nth employee earns about 18000:05:25
thousand tenge per month and rents housing for00:05:29
190 thousand tenge per month and this is the housing00:05:33
she moved to to save money.00:05:36
That is, she moved from a two-room to a00:05:38
one-room apartment with children00:05:41
and now00:05:43
you know how the rent is growing by00:05:46
leaps and bounds, at some point this00:05:49
employee simply won’t be able to live because00:05:51
that he does not have the opportunity to rent00:05:54
housing, it is00:05:55
also worth mentioning that foreign00:05:58
teachers, in addition to salaries approximately 4-600:06:01
times higher than our local ones, also receive00:06:04
free housing, payment for flights,00:06:07
free education for their children at00:06:10
our school, and many other privileges00:06:14
originally from our initiative group of00:06:18
15 employees00:06:20
based their demands on the law on the00:06:23
status of And the teacher who clearly speaks00:06:25
about increasing salaries for teachers of all00:06:27
schools in the Republic of Kazakhstan00:06:30
But besides vague assurances from the00:06:32
school administration that salaries00:06:35
will be raised and conditions will be improved,00:06:39
you have achieved only one00:06:42
physical improvement, so to speak this is a00:06:46
health benefit and we now receive a00:06:48
health benefit in accordance with the00:06:50
law On the status of a teacher, the00:06:53
primary trade union organization at the00:06:55
Almaty International School00:06:57
exists Officially since April 2022,00:07:02
since I apologize in the spring of 2020, we00:07:06
have lost some of our fellow associates, so to speak,00:07:09
who stopped00:07:12
participating active in some kind of struggle for00:07:15
their labor rights00:07:17
from April 20 to June 20 22, I apologize00:07:21
from April 22 to June 22, the00:07:24
primary trade union organization00:07:26
grew from 4 to 11 members. That is, all00:07:29
15 never united, given that in00:07:32
general we the00:07:34
teaching staff of local00:07:36
teachers is00:07:37
about 40 people, that is, we do00:07:41
n’t have that many,00:07:43
and some of our colleagues admitted00:07:46
that they were afraid of losing their jobs or they00:07:49
were afraid of being subjected to some other00:07:50
type of discrimination in the workplace,00:07:54
and soon after we invited00:07:56
management to negotiate concluding a00:07:58
collective agreement in April00:08:01
2022, one of our most active00:08:03
participants in trade union activities, Zhanna,00:08:06
was notified that her contract would not be00:08:08
renewed for the next academic00:08:10
year. Zhanna reached retirement age in 2019, if I’m not00:08:14
mistaken, which00:08:16
was, as we suspect, the reason for00:08:19
irritation with her about the contract. Well,00:08:23
this coincidence, of course, raises a00:08:25
lot of questions and genres. In the future,00:08:28
negotiations on the conclusion of a collective00:08:30
agreement will also tell in more detail, neither in the spring nor in00:08:33
the summer of 22, there was constant00:08:36
correspondence between the management and the chairman00:08:39
of the trade union, that is, with me,00:08:41
and we suspect that the management wasted00:08:44
time by asking the same questions over00:08:46
and over again Despite the fact that the school00:08:48
has a highly qualified lawyer00:08:50
who could understand the labor00:08:52
code and advise them, instead00:08:54
they00:08:56
constantly demanded that I just a00:08:59
citizen explain some laws to them and00:09:03
in mid-September00:09:04
2022 year, the school management announced that it did00:09:07
not recognize our primary trade union00:09:09
organization as legitimate.00:09:12
In response to this, in writing, I provided all00:09:15
the documents we had. For example, a00:09:18
resolution of the Presidium of the industry with00:09:22
employees of state00:09:24
public service institutions on the admission of00:09:26
our primary trade union organization to the00:09:28
branch And a huge amount of00:09:31
other documentation which00:09:33
our leadership actually saw,00:09:36
but they continued to insist on00:09:39
seeing even more information,00:09:40
for example, they demanded our position in the charter,00:09:42
as far as we read00:09:46
the laws of the trade unions, we were00:09:48
not obliged to provide this information and yet00:09:51
they continue to insist that we00:09:53
provide, that is, all the information00:09:55
which only can be which00:09:59
can only exist also around00:10:01
the middle of September of this year in the00:10:04
department we sent00:10:06
labor inspectors to the department and on our own behalf on00:10:09
behalf of the primary trade union organization00:10:11
Andrei sent a complaint that they are not00:10:14
our organizations, that is, our00:10:16
management does not respond to us a call, so to00:10:20
speak, to conclude a collective00:10:21
agreement00:10:23
and then on September 20, just recently,00:10:27
local members of the conciliation commission and00:10:30
local administration representatives00:10:32
convened a General Meeting of all local00:10:35
employees, there were only 52 of us there,00:10:39
the meeting began with the question of the00:10:41
legitimacy of our primary trade union00:10:44
organization, but within an hour00:10:47
there was legitimacy recognized, I again00:10:49
showed the same papers that I00:10:51
had previously sent to everyone and the00:10:54
legitimacy was no longer00:10:56
questioned, but they began to urge all00:10:59
other employees00:11:01
not to participate in negotiations on00:11:05
concluding a collective agreement and even00:11:08
voted against anyone at the00:11:13
school concluding a collective agreement00:11:16
and the members The primary trade union00:11:18
organization unanimously stated that00:11:20
they felt pressure from00:11:22
non-members of the organization, given00:11:25
that non-members of the primary trade union00:11:28
organization cannot vote00:11:30
on decisions previously made by the00:11:32
primary trade union organization, and even00:11:35
more so try to change an opinion that00:11:37
was already formed earlier00:11:41
and is therefore unclear. goals00:11:43
pursued by this meeting in addition to00:11:45
psychological pressure and intimidation, a00:11:49
clear example of pressure on colleagues00:11:51
are the following actions and all00:11:53
participants During this meeting of the00:11:56
trade union organization were asked to stand up00:11:59
and when some participants refused00:12:02
they insisted several times they persistently00:12:06
asked everyone who is part of the trade union to00:12:08
stand up and in the end everyone did not members of the Trade Unions00:12:13
began to demonstrate all the00:12:15
members and began to look at them carefully,00:12:17
this somehow even reminds00:12:19
me Personally of some era of McCarthyism in the USA00:12:25
and now members of the primary trade union00:12:28
organization are experiencing another crisis,00:12:30
considering that from the very beginning of our00:12:32
trade union we had one crisis after00:12:34
another00:12:35
Due to the obvious pressure of an unfavorable00:12:37
environment in the workplace, some00:12:39
members of the primary trade union organization are00:12:41
thinking of leaving the organization and it is00:12:44
ironic that00:12:46
some of our local colleagues who00:12:49
are not members of the primary00:12:51
trade union organization are now saying that we, as a00:12:53
trade union organization, tried to00:12:55
represent their interests without their knowledge and00:12:59
protect their rights against their will when00:13:02
they did not ask us then, being in the00:13:05
majority, they are now00:13:06
putting pressure on us so that we do not fight for00:13:08
our rights, but we never spoke for00:13:10
them. We always simply invited at best,00:13:13
but in no case did we insist or00:13:16
assert that a collective agreement00:13:18
will be concluded for everyone because this00:13:21
Elementarily does not comply with00:13:22
the law00:13:24
and I also forgot to mention that the practice of00:13:27
intimidation and selective benefits for00:13:30
some local employees00:13:31
has been practiced, as far as we know, from the00:13:33
very beginning of the work of our school00:13:38
and if you don’t mind, tell us00:13:41
more about your case because that it is00:13:43
very revealing00:13:47
Hello,00:13:49
first of all, I want to confirm everything that00:13:51
Maya just said, I myself last00:13:54
year witnessed all these processes of00:13:58
various situations as a witness and not00:14:02
just a witness to the active participants00:14:03
because they fight against me at school00:14:22
in my school where I worked00:14:25
almost 30 years 93 years from the very beginning when00:14:30
the school was founded I came to this school as a00:14:33
teacher of the Russian language for foreigners00:14:35
Since then I00:14:42
worked part-time, then I switched to00:14:45
full-time work because in those00:14:48
days I was00:14:49
n’t happy with the work, it was interesting I00:14:51
really love my school I say even in the00:14:54
past tense for now I hope to00:14:56
recover I love my colleagues all the00:15:01
local00:15:02
foreigners I love my students very much00:15:05
This is a wonderful place to work but00:15:08
unfortunately this year, or rather two years in the00:15:11
twentieth year, it started we began to00:15:14
fight for our rights, that is, we are00:15:18
not even at the beginning We They didn’t even talk about00:15:21
equalizing our salaries. Although according to00:15:25
the law. And by the way, according to the Employment Agreement,00:15:28
which is signed by our00:15:31
employer and each employee. Well,00:15:34
I’ll even00:15:35
quote our employment agreement dated00:15:40
March 5, 2012, which was signed by the00:15:43
director before school,00:15:45
the employee has the right to demand paragraph 200:15:48
from the employer to fulfill the terms of00:15:50
the contract, clause 12, again, the employee has the right00:15:54
to protect his rights and legitimate00:15:56
interests in all ways that do not contradict00:15:58
the law, which is what we did,00:16:01
clause 13 of the same contract00:16:04
for equal treatment, the employee has the right to equal00:16:08
pay for equal work without any00:16:10
discrimination00:16:12
section 4 legal responsibilities00:16:16
the employer is obliged, again, the same00:16:18
contract to comply with the requirements of the labor00:16:21
legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan,00:16:24
contract agreements issued,00:16:27
that is, it is written in black and white what00:16:30
they are obliged to do, clause 600:16:34
provides the employee’s representatives with00:16:36
complete and reliable information00:16:38
necessary for negotiations, we00:16:41
cannot achieve00:16:42
the employer should at least tell us00:16:45
what kind of salary00:16:47
foreign employees and ours receive in the garden Yes, so that00:16:51
we can compare, that is, here up to paragraph00:16:55
16, enter an accurate record of working time,00:16:58
including overtime work performed by00:17:01
the employee, that is, in the employment contract,00:17:04
which of course is drawn up on the basis00:17:06
labor legislation of our country00:17:09
and in the employment contract, all this is on00:17:13
paper, it’s all signed, but when we00:17:16
started our struggle, we began the process, we00:17:20
felt different pressure on us,00:17:23
it was different. For me, it was in00:17:26
the beginning, the first meeting was held with me, the00:17:29
meeting lasted00:17:31
67 minutes, I wrote it down before00:17:35
I have audio of this meeting;00:17:37
two of our directors,00:17:40
Dr. Jason Craig and Mister Roth, the00:17:45
head of our department, Tatyana00:17:48
Isaeva, were present at the meeting as a translator, she and00:17:51
I, four of us were at this meeting. Moreover,00:17:52
I asked to00:17:55
invite May as a translator since we were in one00:17:58
struggle, and then we didn’t have00:18:00
a trade union yet, but we already had some kind of a union,00:18:03
we felt like a cell, so they didn’t00:18:06
allow me to do it, they said that all00:18:08
information should be confidential,00:18:11
for 67 minutes, I think they put pressure on me. I00:18:15
think that these were threats. I suspect00:18:18
that such00:18:20
meetings, or maybe something else, were00:18:22
held not only with me, but probably with00:18:25
everyone. So,00:18:27
in the end, at the end of the last00:18:31
academic year, on May 19,00:18:34
2022,00:18:36
just after the next meeting00:18:39
about these questions,00:18:43
I just at the end of the meeting Doctor Rod,00:18:46
he put a paper in front of me on which00:18:49
was written a notice that in00:18:51
two months we are terminating the contract with you,00:18:56
that is, there were no grounds. I have been00:18:59
working since 2019,00:19:02
the contract was renewed with me. I retired00:19:05
due to age in 2019 and then00:19:10
within three years, the contract with me00:19:11
was extended. Nothing happened. I didn’t00:19:14
get sick. I don’t miss work. I don’t sit00:19:18
on sick leave for a long time. I look fine. I’m not00:19:21
limping. nothing happened. What00:19:25
happened was00:19:27
that they considered me, the director00:19:32
considered me a leader, as if he00:19:35
considered me. that I00:19:37
probably pose some kind of threat00:19:41
and this one informed me, in the00:19:45
end, now I don’t work at the school,00:19:48
but although I still hope that we00:19:52
will prove our right in court Yes, I00:19:55
will prove it more accurately with my lawyers00:19:59
Here we are I I think that at school there is a00:20:04
lot of In our school, to those00:20:09
moments that I do not comply with either the00:20:13
law or our Employment contract, the00:20:15
rights of local00:20:18
employees are violated everywhere and constantly, there is00:20:23
discrimination, for example, people older than me00:20:26
even work, and foreigners showed me the00:20:30
door. This is discrimination, but with this we are00:20:35
not we agree, that’s why00:20:37
in the spring of last year00:20:45
we opened a Trade Union cell because we00:20:50
felt that yes,00:20:52
the fight wo00:20:54
n’t just happen, employers do00:20:57
n’t want to meet us halfway, didn’t even take00:21:00
small steps, although we used00:21:04
civilized methods of struggle, we wrote00:21:07
letters, we addressed, we talked at the meeting, that00:21:10
is, but we didn’t see the00:21:14
slightest movement towards this00:21:17
in this situation on the part of the employer00:21:19
and that’s why we organized a cell they gave a00:21:23
very good story,00:21:26
it really was very small at first 400:21:29
members were yes At first there were only00:21:32
us, mine and I were of course the first to00:21:35
join Who are we were the organizers,00:21:39
then it came 11, in my opinion, yes. Well, if00:21:45
we retreat now, if we00:21:48
don’t continue now, then I think that00:21:54
the cell will simply cease00:21:57
to exist. Therefore, I think it’s very00:21:59
important to appeal to the public. I’m00:22:03
sure that we are not the only such00:22:06
organization that I have encountered these00:22:09
problems. I am sure that there are many00:22:13
organizations where the rights of workers are simply00:22:16
not respected. The rights are spelled out as you00:22:19
see. I just read it to you and the rights00:22:22
are spelled out. The employer signs the00:22:24
Document and believes that all that is all00:22:28
he has to do is sign the document. And00:22:30
this is enough00:22:31
tension with the laws of our country. countries00:22:35
where they earn money Yes, I00:22:39
think they are completely neglected by their employers00:22:42
And if we are workers, this is our business, we00:22:45
must00:22:48
demand Yes, and fight for our rights00:22:52
then I think00:22:55
we can Now this is the time We think I think00:22:58
we can do this, I call for this00:23:00
and I call on the public00:23:03
to support because we are all00:23:06
ultimately workers to some extent00:23:08
Yes, it’s unlikely that anyone here is an00:23:10
employer; we are workers, so it’s00:23:13
everyone’s business. I think I00:23:16
would also like to note that Zhanna was fired00:23:20
without asking the opinion of the primary trade union00:23:24
organization. The fact is that Zhanna was a member00:23:26
of the Committee and did not ask me or Andrei00:23:31
Ushakov for our00:23:33
motivated opinion, the management, we00:23:35
believe that she should use00:23:37
this in court as evidence that00:23:40
she was fired precisely for her Trade Union00:23:43
activities and that she had reached00:23:46
retirement age. This was just a reason.00:23:49
Well thank you, I’m the only one who00:23:52
will clarify the purely legal points a little.00:23:55
So, at the same time, I’ll restore00:23:59
the chronology of the00:24:01
shelves. As they say. It’s not for nothing that I00:24:04
started this regional00:24:06
agreement, which, as I repeat,00:24:08
was concluded on the basis of a general00:24:09
agreement on social partnership. There I00:24:12
read the function clauses regarding the00:24:16
development of00:24:19
social partnership itself, including including00:24:22
bilateral ones, including it is00:24:25
written there that00:24:27
collective ones need to increase the number of00:24:30
medium-sized enterprises to 94 200:24:34
percent Where will there be a collective agreement00:24:36
to improve the well-being of00:24:39
the Workers However, how does all this look00:24:42
in practice, look now,00:24:45
starting from the very beginning on April 25, 202, the00:24:49
primary00:24:51
trade union organization On April 26, she00:24:54
became part of the branch, that is,00:24:57
by the decision00:24:58
of the branch, she was accepted for00:25:00
professional services in the future. On April 29,00:25:03
Maya sends the first notice of the00:25:06
start of collective negotiations,00:25:10
then we are on May 4. I am already00:25:15
attaching this notification to the application to00:25:18
my superiors from the branch. I00:25:22
am sending it by mail. by00:25:24
registered mail because there, as I00:25:26
understand it, on April 29, they didn’t bother to00:25:29
sign the resolution to put what00:25:31
they accepted. So00:25:33
I’m attaching it00:25:35
and I get the following answer:00:25:38
provide the charter, provide the00:25:40
regulations, provide there almost00:25:44
from where your funds are not formed. How are00:25:46
your organs formed, and so on and so00:25:48
forth like00:25:49
why I can’t understand this, I attached a00:25:51
certificate of state registration, an extract from00:25:54
the charter and later it was provided00:25:56
that members of the non-profit00:25:59
organization Almaty International00:26:02
School can be part of this00:26:04
trade union.00:26:06
However, within 10 working days, as00:26:11
required by law, it00:26:14
turns out that we are not We started00:26:18
these negotiations,00:26:20
as a result, we applied for the first time back in00:26:24
May. The labor inspection department,00:26:26
then still the social00:26:28
welfare department, received the answer00:26:30
that we could not carry out an inspection due to the fact00:26:32
that we were00:26:34
reorganizing in the future, I waited00:26:37
until it turned out, then Zhanna00:26:40
sent complaint On my own behalf, they00:26:42
answered and gave that there was no one from the management.00:26:45
Therefore, I decided to wait until the00:26:47
management directly came out and00:26:49
was on the ground and again sent a complaint00:26:51
to the labor inspection department, not00:26:55
here the reply came that in the list of00:26:58
requirements of the checklist00:27:00
approved by orders of the Minister of00:27:02
Health and Social Development of the Republic of Kazakhstan on00:27:04
December 25, 2015, number 1022 and the00:27:09
Minister of National Economy of the Republic of Kazakhstan dated00:27:12
December 28, 2015, with number 801 for00:27:16
compliance with labor legislation,00:27:17
the issue indicated in your application,00:27:19
evasion of participation in00:27:21
collective bargaining for the conclusion of a00:27:22
collective agreement is absent, that00:27:25
is, a strange situation turns out to be article00:27:28
156 such rk provides that the parties00:27:31
must enter into negotiations when00:27:34
notification is received within 10 working00:27:36
days00:27:37
on this basis, Article 9700:27:40
provides for an00:27:42
administrative sanction, that is,00:27:44
avoidance of participation in negotiations, failure to00:27:46
ensure the work of a commission in the amount of00:27:49
400 MCI for the guilty party00:27:52
and who initiates00:27:55
this administrative proceeding00:27:57
due to the fact that the00:28:00
State Inspection Department labor is not moving in any way00:28:03
on the topic of00:28:06
how it was written on the bureau’s website that00:28:09
inspection paralysis00:28:12
will be written to the prosecutor’s office. Let then00:28:14
the prosecutor in the Urazbay district00:28:16
initiate a Resolution on the00:28:20
initiation of administrative00:28:23
proceedings, let them be fined. I don’t know,00:28:25
because we have in our hands a00:28:27
regional agreement where black people00:28:29
white is indicated this agreement is already a callus00:28:33
on the tongue rubbed signed on the basis of the00:28:35
general agreement The general00:28:37
agreement as Andrei Igorevich told me00:28:39
it was developed over the course of00:28:41
six months and why it was developed00:28:43
that just to become a piece of paper to00:28:46
lie down on the table it turns out of course the papers are all00:28:50
splendid with us Well, in practice you00:28:52
will provide you00:28:54
will ensure equality of the parties Social partnership And00:28:58
since you do not ensure Social00:29:00
partnership, this is what I want to say,00:29:02
instead of entering into negotiations with us,00:29:05
they first of all00:29:06
fired an employee who at the time of00:29:10
termination of the employment contract was a00:29:12
member of the pravkom Without taking into account a00:29:14
reasoned opinion What is00:29:17
the rudest in violation of the law,00:29:20
they took Zhanna to the local team after the picket in00:29:26
May, they sent a letter to the local team in the mail00:29:29
where they demand not00:29:32
to introduce themselves and not to mention00:29:34
the trade union at all when talking to teachers,00:29:36
employees, by the way, we also reflected this00:29:39
in the statement regarding00:29:41
discrimination on the basis of the trade union, they did00:29:45
not react to this at all Okay, you are00:29:48
somehow evading participation in00:29:50
collective bargaining, you00:29:52
can’t do anything like this. You00:29:53
will react to this. But again we have00:29:55
inspection paralysis, why are they00:29:57
sitting there at all, so they tell me the court,00:29:59
contact the court. Yesterday I was in court, I had00:30:02
banking sports there, the judge is all00:30:04
alarmed, he has 800 proceedings against her00:30:07
alone,00:30:08
really 800 proceedings suffer from this, the00:30:11
quality suffers.00:30:13
Forgive00:30:14
the administration of justice because I00:30:18
really think this judge is purely00:30:20
human,00:30:22
not that it’s a pity for her, I understand that there are 80000:30:26
proceedings. And how are you going to figure out00:30:28
what Brains you need? to have, but with such00:30:30
work of our state institutions, but there will be00:30:33
1600 proceedings per judge, everyone00:30:36
sends the court in fact I read00:30:39
[music] a00:30:41
scientific and practical reference book, it00:30:43
turns out comments from the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Republic of Kazakhstan The fact is00:30:46
that administrative law is very00:30:48
cumbersome, massive, it says that00:30:50
the prosecutor initiates Why They did00:30:54
n’t send me a prosecutor then. They would have said, well,00:30:56
write the prosecutor, I have to figure it all out myself.00:31:00
Okay, let’s write to the prosecutor. Let the prosecutor of the00:31:03
Nauryzbay region initiate00:31:05
administrative proceedings. Let in the00:31:07
end the state machine work a little00:31:09
because the regional00:31:11
agreement was signed directly by00:31:12
Kim directly by the government,00:31:16
we expect help from the state in00:31:19
implementation of our labor rights00:31:21
Can I add literally Yes,00:31:25
regarding the fact that Andrei said that the courts00:31:27
there are00:31:28
full, they are loaded Yes, precisely so00:31:33
that00:31:34
pre-trial Yes, there is such a pre-trial00:31:38
resolution of disputes at school, we have a00:31:40
conciliation commission00:31:43
organized last year, it also began, it00:31:46
seems, in the winter in my opinion, more precisely this00:31:49
year,00:31:51
or at the end of last year or at the beginning of this00:31:54
year, a00:31:56
conciliation commission which means,00:31:59
according to the rules, three parity should be00:32:02
three members of00:32:04
the employee three members of the employer precisely00:32:07
in order to resolve labor00:32:09
disputes of some kind, that is, really00:32:11
This is so that the courts courts we00:32:15
only reached out to something that really00:32:16
requires a trial, I00:32:19
state I declare that at the school at the00:32:24
Almaty International School they made00:32:26
this body an agreement and the commission is simply,00:32:30
well, nothing at all, they don’t consider this00:32:35
body00:32:36
important at all, they neglect it, I myself was a00:32:41
member of the conciliation commission on00:32:43
the employer’s side, you chose me00:32:46
by a majority of votes I was00:32:48
chosen by the employee00:32:53
I was chosen as a member of the conciliation00:32:55
commission So this is the conciliation00:32:59
commission I think it generally requires00:33:01
some kind of additional analysis because00:33:05
they allow00:33:08
outrageous things, for example, writing deliberate00:33:11
lies in the decision of the conciliation commission00:33:14
I have all the evidence of this, the00:33:19
conciliation commission works with00:33:21
violations and in the end, all the00:33:24
applications that we sent because00:33:27
this is a process, now we had to00:33:29
go through the conciliation commission in order to00:33:31
then go to court for all the00:33:33
applications, a negative decision was issued00:33:36
not in favor of the employee.00:33:39
In general, this is00:33:42
additional, that’s just me I heard00:33:44
now another fact that the00:33:49
leadership of the Almaty International00:33:51
School does not respect the laws of the country in which it is00:33:55
located, they do not comply with the laws of Kazakhstan, they00:33:59
do not just do not comply, but you can say they00:34:02
just hammered on him, yes Or00:34:09
a few questions00:34:12
about the school they00:34:15
teach there, the broadcasts will turn out to be00:34:17
foreigners or both and other00:34:19
international schools, they work in00:34:23
basic subjects since the diploma00:34:25
is issued in the American style, the basic00:34:28
subjects are taught to foreign children, I00:34:31
don’t know now how it was last year, in00:34:34
my opinion, 70 percent was a month no less00:34:36
But00:34:38
no, when I wrote when00:34:44
I helped with lending, it was about 30 percent00:34:48
two years ago Now I would say it00:34:50
probably grew to 40 percent Well, yes,00:34:53
locals, that is, the numbers were much00:34:55
lower Yes, namely students of local students00:34:58
But this is nevertheless still a huge00:35:00
number because00:35:02
initially this school was opened for the00:35:05
children of so-called expats for00:35:08
children ambassadors of diplomats and children of00:35:14
international business leaders and so00:35:16
on. And now we still have at00:35:19
least 50 percent of them. These are the children of the so-00:35:22
called expats, but there are00:35:27
more and more of our local students, but again, all these companies00:35:29
operate on the territory of the Republic of00:35:33
Kazakhstan must conduct ourselves in00:35:35
accordance with the legislation of the00:35:37
Republic of Kazakhstan and our school, too,00:35:39
our leadership even vaguely admitted00:35:45
that00:35:47
in the 90s, when the school opened, the00:35:50
legislation here was00:35:52
blissfully incomprehensible, so00:35:55
as they say, they took advantage of it, but now00:35:59
everything is becoming according to the law and more often this00:36:04
has a00:36:05
negative impact on the us on employees,00:36:08
in fact, I personally contacted the00:36:11
labor inspectorate of the city of Almaty with a00:36:13
request whether the00:36:16
international school Almaty school as a00:36:18
private school should comply with the law,00:36:20
first of all, the law on the status of a teacher, they00:36:23
answered me unequivocally Yes, the school must00:36:27
comply with00:36:28
act in accordance with00:36:30
the law That is, they are not00:36:32
state-owned schools are not00:36:34
only supposed to be state schools, but also private schools00:36:37
where there are our00:36:38
students, they are also obliged to00:36:46
approximately 80 percent of foreign00:36:48
teachers, that is, very few00:36:50
local employees, as I said, 5200:36:52
people were present at one of the00:36:54
few meetings of local employees00:36:57
and there were representatives of the00:36:59
so-called office workers.00:37:03
there are those people who work at00:37:05
the reception, for example, also teachers,00:37:07
teaching assistants, these are vacancies00:37:10
that Previously we did not have in local00:37:13
public schools,00:37:15
now it is starting to appear00:37:16
little by little, that is, of our local00:37:19
employees, I would say that we are a00:37:21
minority,00:37:32
approximately we know these are ours, which means00:37:36
colleagues, friends of the00:37:37
school, we do not provides such00:37:40
information if you look at the average00:37:44
salaries of teachers in the USA, for example, and if00:37:47
you look at the vacancies that are opening00:37:49
for such positions, for example, in other00:37:52
countries, you can get an idea of00:37:55
what salaries they have, again,00:37:59
we have never demanded that our00:38:02
salaries be completely equalized, although in theory00:38:05
according to the law, we can demand this, but we are00:38:08
aware that they are paid because otherwise00:38:12
they simply will not come and the school then00:38:14
will not be able to exist, and in the form in00:38:17
which it has existed for how many 3000:38:20
years, so we seemed to ask for an improvement in00:38:24
our working conditions with understanding and then00:38:27
yes, we did not ask to rent housing for us. We did00:38:30
not ask to pay for our flight from00:38:32
one side of the earth to the other. We and00:38:36
some of our employees have00:38:37
some benefits, and of course I won’t mention anyone in00:38:40
particular because of00:38:42
confidentiality issues, but some of00:38:45
our employees receive benefits and For00:38:47
example, we have a suspicion that00:38:51
those employees who receive some kind of00:38:54
unspoken benefits are possibly against00:38:56
our Trade Union activities, but00:38:58
we cannot say this for sure00:39:00
because it is quite difficult00:39:03
to prove -00:39:07
all directors and all head teachers except00:39:11
literally two to or one Even we have00:39:14
people Now who is in charge, so00:39:17
to speak, but this is the head of the department, this is not the00:39:19
management00:39:22
Thank you all, I don’t have any questions in the room,00:39:26
please tell me here00:39:30
Well, the body is clear In principle, your00:39:32
next steps00:39:35
Yes, this is how we are going to move forward,00:39:41
we will simply seek our00:39:44
legal right to conclude a00:39:45
collective agreement participate00:39:48
directly in the lives of workers00:39:50
to increase, so to speak, the well-being of00:39:54
members of the trade union organization and that's all And00:39:58
everyone who joins us sooner or later00:40:00
I hope there will be such people00:40:03
I will defend my right to be00:40:07
reinstated at work in court I hope00:40:10
that I will be reinstated I want to be00:40:14
reinstated at my job I00:40:16
think that this would be an excellent00:40:19
precedent Well, the trade union will help with this00:40:22
because your dismissal is a slap in the00:40:25
direction of the trade union organization because they did00:40:28
n’t even ask for a00:40:29
reasoned opinion to be taken into account. Although this is in fact a00:40:32
formality, but a significant formality,00:40:35
so we could express our opinion,00:40:38
and a legitimate opinion.00:40:40
So if if we had expressed an opinion, I don’t00:40:43
agree, yes, they got fired, it would have been00:40:46
according to the law, we at least would have expressed this00:40:48
opinion,00:40:49
so we demand reinstatement.00:40:52
And here’s another question: remember in early00:40:57
August or mid-August, you00:40:59
spent somewhere00:41:03
after that there was a00:41:06
movement on the part of00:41:11
the employer there were no movements,00:41:13
nothing,00:41:15
they only reacted by00:41:17
closing the gates. Yes, and even the employees00:41:20
who wanted to enter, they were forced to go around,00:41:24
barricaded themselves, there were no movements.00:41:34
It was00:41:42
no, there was nothing at all. I’m00:41:46
surprised in general by the employer’s position; I was00:41:50
still working at school, yes. I00:41:53
also addressed the management of00:41:56
qsi qsi this is the system in which00:41:58
our school operates, our school has many of them around the world. There is a school in00:42:02
Bishkek, in Astana there is our00:42:05
school in Atyrau00:42:08
in Ashgabat, I think in Dushanbe in Baku there are a00:42:11
lot of schools in Europe here and there.00:42:14
I wrote a letter to the management, they00:42:21
just didn’t even respond with a reply, that00:42:25
is, there was no reaction at all,00:42:27
I think it’s very unprofessional and00:42:29
disrespectful, it’s not even about the fact that I00:42:32
worked for 30 years, the point is that I was a00:42:35
member of the team at that time,00:42:38
Americans really like to say that00:42:40
we are a family,00:42:42
but in reality there00:42:45
was no one, no one talked to me00:42:48
at all, that is, don’t nominate them.00:42:50
This notice was issued and there00:42:52
was nothing else.00:42:54
Well, maybe it’s just sentimentality. Well, I00:42:57
kind of think that we people00:42:59
should have behaved in a civilized manner. Yes, this00:43:04
whole process is the only reaction on00:43:06
the part of the school00:43:08
to lie, it was sending out this00:43:11
letter where they were forbidden to introduce themselves as00:43:16
members of the trade union by the chairman in00:43:19
a conversation with other teachers, parents,00:43:21
we believe that this is a fact of00:43:25
discrimination based on membership of a00:43:27
trade union organization and we intend to make an00:43:32
urgent application to the international00:43:35
labor organization because in fact00:43:39
we have been subjected to discrimination, I once again00:43:41
say on the basis of belonging to a00:43:43
trade union And our right to association is under threat,00:43:46
which is provided for by00:43:48
international conventions in the Constitution of00:43:50
the Republic of Kazakhstan,00:43:53
by the way, even to the director of the trade union,00:43:56
trade unions from Europe Yes, they00:43:59
sent me a letter after learning about my case thanks to00:44:01
Andrey Yes, they wrote me00:44:06
very good letters of support letters and I00:44:09
saw that this letter was addressed not00:44:11
only to me, I see that it was addressed to the00:44:13
director Jason00:44:15
support for me there was no reaction00:44:19
from the school00:44:21
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Алматинская Международная Школа – одна из самых дорогих и престижных школ города. АМШ, как и многие другие международные школы всего мира, много лет была печально известна тем, что платила местным сотрудникам в разы меньше чем иностранным сотрудникам. Используя комбинацию тактик, включающих в себя запугивание некоторых местных и выборочно выдавая льготы другим, администрация школы никогда в должной мере не объясняла вопиющую разницу между условиями труда местных и зарубежных сотрудников. Весной 2022 года активистами из числа местных сотрудников было принято решение создать первичную профсоюзную организацию. Администрация школы всеми способами пытается уничтожить независимую профсоюзную ячейку, активисты в свою очередь требуют соблюдения законодательства РК и трудового договора. 27 сентября Первичная Профсоюзная Организация Алматинской Международной Школы провела пресс-конференцию, на которой рассказала, с чем приходится сталкиваться в своей профсоюзной деятельности. ___________________________________________________ Вы можете поддержать развитие канала: Россиянам - 2200 7706 0728 3993 Казахстанцам - 4400 4302 5600 4125 Американцам - [email protected] (paypal, zello, cashapp) Пишите с указанием, что для Красной Юрты. ___________________________________________________ Подписывайтесь на наши соцсети: https://t.me/redyurt https://vk.com/red_yurt https://www.facebook.com/groups/red.yurt/%E2%80%8B https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser https://pikabu.ru/@qyzyl.otau%E2%80%8B https://www.tiktok.com/@red_yurt ___________________________________________________ 00:00 А. Ушаков председатель алм. филиала РОО 00:27 Региональное соглашение о соц. партнерстве 03:30 М. Ицакова председатель ППО АМШ 03:41 Начало борьбы 04:33 ЗП местных 05:55 ЗП иностранцев 06:14 Закон о статусе педагога 06:53 Создание ППО 07:54 Первые репрессии 08:28 Судьба переговоров по колдоговору 09:03 Сентябрь 2022 и “ненастоящий” профсоюз 10:25 Давление на ППО 13:46 Ж. Омарова профсоюзный активист 14:12 История Ж. Омаровой 15:26 О трудовом договоре 17:15 Давление на активистов 18:25 Увольнение 20:22 Дискриминация в АМШ 23:52 А. Ушаков 24:44 Хронология событий 26:50 Жалоба в инспекцию труда и ответ на нее 29:19 Запрет профсоюза в АМШ 29:57 О судах 31:31 Не работающая согласительная комиссия 34:10 Вопрос из зала 36:08 АМШ должна соблюдать закон о статусе педагога? 36:41 Процент местных и иностранных преподавателей 37:23 Вопрос из зала 39:05 Вопрос из зала 39:25 Дальнейшие действия 40:53 Реакция руководства на пикет Жаныл 43:05 Дискриминация профсоюза в АМШ 43:53 Письма от европейских профсоюзов
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This feature is available in the UDL Helper extension. Make sure that "Show the video snapshot button" is checked in the settings. A camera icon should appear in the lower right corner of the player to the left of the "Settings" icon. When you click on it, the current frame from the video will be saved to your computer in JPEG format.
What's the price of all this stuff?
It costs nothing. Our services are absolutely free for all users. There are no PRO subscriptions, no restrictions on the number or maximum length of downloaded videos.