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История термина “Золотой миллиард”. Где возник этот термин? На Западе термина не существует.
14:46
Россия вывела использование термина “Золотой миллиард” на новый уровень. Россия использует термин как ресентимент.
22:20
Откуда появилась конспирологическая теория “Золотой миллиард”?
28:26
Упоминание телеграммы Кеннана.
30:23
Примеры применения термина в риторике российских политических деятелей. Почему “Золотой миллиард”?
35:28
Сейчас главная задача российского руководства навязать “Золотой миллиард” на мировом уровне.
40:35
По логике в России тоже есть “Золотой миллиард”.
45:46
Что вызывает войны: перенаселение, экономический бум или политические интересы?
50:53
Трамп для Китая опасен? Стратегические визии Байдена и Трампа относительно Китая.
53:43
Китай старается подмять российскую экономику под себя, чтобы Россия была зависима от них при любом президенте.
55:11
Союз России, КНДР, Китая и Ирана — это союз отчаяния?
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Союз России, КНДР, Китая и Ирана можно разломать, если Запад станет более гибким.
1:02:35
Что для Запада дает понимание того, что союз России, КНДР, Китая и Ирана — это союз отчаяния? Есть ли что-то о чем можно договариваться с этими странами?
1:09:40
У России мощная дипломатия и дипломатическая школа. Украине нужно выстраивать свою дипломатическую школу тоже.
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Hello everyone, Ilya Kusa is here with us. Hello
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Yes, today we will discuss the Golden
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Billion, what is it in general, what is it
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eaten with? I suggested Ilya to make this broadcast
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because Putin mentioned the Golden
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Billion more than once in his
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proclamations of all sorts of program interviews.
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Here it is This suggests
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that something, some term is used
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which seems to be on the surface it has
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always been somehow so, it seems to be
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understood and used, but for some reason
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right now it is also
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actively promoting global topics and
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on the one hand, someone there calls
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Putin and plus, as if with them,
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Iran PRC DPRK is an axis of evil and he in response
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means And you are the Golden Billion and it seems to be
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seen as you know The Fool The Fool himself, but
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I think that’s the Golden billion
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mobility is better than the people around the
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global West against the
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global West and everyone and with the
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global West against them, and the
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axis of evil turns out to be bad mobility, as it were, of
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people So purely with this kind of
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political technology Of course, first of
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history from the point of view I would like to analyze
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this question and secondly, well, it’s
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hopelessly outdated, this term is just what it
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could have been before.
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It would seem like there’s a golden billion there,
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such a well-fed
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Europe or something, the States and so on,
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this same way of life has long been
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inherent in many others countries that
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seem to be part of this Golden Billion have
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never been part of this global
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West, and so on, Singapore is immediately remembered
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And there are a lot of other
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countries, here’s what you think about
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this Well, you and I, we read about
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it
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Look uh come on right away Yes, we’ll
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just build a conversation
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So let’s talk about the history of
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the term in general, then we’ll move on to how it
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suddenly turned out to be part of the state
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ideology of Russia Well, even yes, in fact, I would
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say part of their ideology, part of their
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foreign policy communication and
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some kind of doctrine Yes, because
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really it was unexpected, well, I
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kind of understand because of my age,
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I don’t remember the times when this term
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was there, I don’t know. That is, I, I
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actually learned about it about the Golden Billion
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not so long ago before the war, but that’s how it
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was used in some Russian
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analysts, political scientists in their type of
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work, well, not in tea, how could I
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have looked at it like that, I think, okay, well, I could
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roughly imagine what they
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mean. There they described it, and then when
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the war began, they introduced this concept
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directly well, it seems to be established, that
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is, they have already begun to use it as if it were
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Well, this is a fact, but
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they of course introduced it in the context of the
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war in Ukraine in the context of their
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thesis about confrontation with the West, that
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is, by and large they used the
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golden theory golden billion
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as Well, it turns out Well, in a political and
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ideological vein, that is, in order to
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explain that essentially within the framework of
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the formation of the enemy, this is how I would
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explain it, what it really is, that is,
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in general, the Golden Billion, uh, the phrase is one
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of this is the main concept of essentially a
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conspiracy theory of the post-Soviet
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uh Yes, Soviet still turns out to be Soviet,
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but it turns out to be popularized in the
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post-Soviet era, that is, well, it all started in
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general, the whole conspiracy theory, it
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says that there is a certain group of
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global Elites Yeah,
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which are in collusion with each other
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Yes, for the purpose of
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redistributing goods of humanity in
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favor of the 10-2 richest countries there at the expense of
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all the rest, that’s basically all uh that is
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uh it’s like there’s a global Elite there I don’t
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know who like Who like whatever you want you
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call them there Illuminati fourth
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blood group Celts here you can already Well this
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you can do whatever you want, who have
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spent their whole lives
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doing everything so that rich countries
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rule over everyone else. And basically,
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well, mostly rich countries are the
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collective West. That is, Western
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Europe USA Canada Australia New
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Zealand plus sometimes Japan Well, poor
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Japan as if yes, the Japanese too, as if at
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least they are not Anglo-Saxons, of course, but nevertheless, these are
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their Puppets, that’s not the point,
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it’s like there,
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sometimes some conspiracy theorists are supporters of
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this theory, they still write the West plus
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Japan, but like this, well as if yes,
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I don’t know Well, these are those who especially Well, how do they
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explain those who explain by
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income level like rich, then Japan is also
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rich, but that means Japan South Korea for some
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reason does not appear there Yes,
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Singapore does not appear there as rich
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countries today, you can probably China
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there Well, it turns out to be brought in. I don’t know. Well, in
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general, that’s what this
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theory is, and this theory arose during the post-Soviet period. That
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is, in the English-speaking environment, you won’t
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find the phrase Golden
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doesn’t exist at all; it’s just that no one
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understands what it’s about. Therefore, when
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Putin or someone else or Lavrov, for example,
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they talk about this especially at the
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international level and they talk about
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it. I have a question about how
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advisable it is to do this
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because I am 99% sure that they are not understood.
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Well, no, there is no
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theory of the golden billion in everyday life in the Western
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environment, no scientific or pseudo-
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scientific in the English language, it just couldn’t
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resist, it’s clear that they will
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try to probably pull it on Well,
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impose what they are doing
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uh again as I said in the
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current context, that is, they stupidly pull it
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on the current context trying to
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form the image of his enemy somehow, well,
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because if you are engaged in
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propaganda, uh, it is very important that the enemy
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is one, yes, one, yes, that is, he must
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be. Somehow, somehow, it
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needs to be explained very simply; for those, the axis of evil arose;
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this is also what we dealt with you,
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too, was essentially a political history
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of polytechnological
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scientists there literally Well, several
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people who, well, for the first time said
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the term golden billion, and
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this was said within the framework of world discussions
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about the general problems of ecology of the
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overpopulation of the planet, yes, that is, it was
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not used at all in any what kind of
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conspiracy theory and no conspiracy theory was meant
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uh
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So you need to understand the context, that is,
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firstly, glasnost Perestroika especially
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seemed to help all of this,
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more open discussions began about
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what they write there in the West, what they write here
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uh an important milestone was the publication
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of this report of the Club of Rome, the limits of
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growth are this per year, which means the authors of the report
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they put forward a theory. Well, the assumption is
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that the population of the Earth is supposedly
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close to the fact that the resources of the planet are
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exhausted; catastrophes must reduce
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consumption; first and second, it is necessary to
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limit further
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population growth; then in the seventies, the population of the
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planet was almost 4 billion is now almost
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there, and they thought that there weren’t
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enough resources and something had to be done.
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Well, nothing so
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terrible was proposed there; in fact, there was no
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enslavement there or anything, that is, they
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proposed birth control
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through incentives. Well, through some
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things like taxes on children there
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or Propaganda of contraception or
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liberalization of abortions Well, these are
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the things To avoid, firstly, to avoid a
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sharp increase in the birth rate, plus there, for
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example, they suggested that the National
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government should strictly regulate the
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expansion of production volumes there
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in order to again reduce consumption, but
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they this was offered for their countries, that
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is, those very same golden
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billion of advanced enlightened people, yes,
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because these countries consume the
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most, which is true, that is, it was
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essentially a call for self-restraint against the backdrop of the
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birth of then
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the popularization of this wave of
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these began here is
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the eco-dictation History is there in recent
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years Greta Thunberg no yes, that is, this is in the
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seventies Even back in the
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Eighties it was very much in its
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infancy uh
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just when m just when
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the philosophy of this rethinking of
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our attitude to the environment began, that
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like nature is not just there is a source of
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resources for us, raw materials Yeah, what? Well, we
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live, as it were, in some kind of Union with
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it, that is, we are integrated into it as
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one of the elements and that’s it, and it’s fragile, that
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is, we also kind of depend on the environment
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and with us must take this into account and
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from here all these
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stories about the threat of overpopulation of the planet were born
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about the threat that means
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limited
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natural resources and about Global
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warming about the rise in water levels there about the
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garbage there that threatens Well and so
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on And so, within the framework of those
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discussions, Soviet specialists There they
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said, Well, they interpreted the report of the
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Club of Rome. So, well, it’s like they
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said that there’s an ideal
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picture, ideally, uh, on earth. Well,
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no more than 1 billion people should live there, so
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that the ecology there would be in the
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best possible condition there, well, they they didn’t
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propose to reduce the population to 1
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billion, that is, it’s clear. They’re just like that,
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well, how would such assumptions have anything to do
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with it? Well, Soviet scientists, as part of
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their discussions, they used there, one
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of them used a term like, here a
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billion should be the most worthy
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people, that is, from here then it went
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gold a little later then there was no
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gold yet, just a billion billion
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worthy So this is the first stage of
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the evolution of this term, as it were. Moreover,
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I will immediately say that the report of the Club of Rome was
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it. It was sensational then, of course it is
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One of the first of its kind, plus
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this an influential
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institution, well, he was criticized a lot, he
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launched a discussion there in the West and within the
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framework of this discussion, he was criticized a lot there,
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they said that it doesn’t
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take into account technological growth, it doesn’t
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take into account, and so on, plus Well,
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time has passed since then, we see that some of the
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theses there have been confirmed by the authors in general,
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if we go even further into
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history, well, in general, the idea of ​​this
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problem is like there are a lot of us and we will gobble up
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all the resources there and die, uh, it goes back to the
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15th century, uh, Malthusian, I don’t know if
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you’ve ever heard of the
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British economist Thomas Malthus,
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which is essentially Well, uh, he believed that
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economic growth, well, at one time,
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economic growth does not keep pace with
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population growth Uh-huh and that
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food shortages will be inevitable Well, food resources
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poverty hunger wars and therefore something needs to be
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done he, in particular, he researched
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exactly the impact of this population growth
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on the economy in terms of the agricultural
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economy, especially the agrarian economy, that is, he
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looked at it very narrowly. Well, from
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his point of view, what he was doing, but
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then, based on his theories, a bunch of all sorts of
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interpretations of movements and
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conspiracy theories and movements, for example, were born
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they advocated a
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forced reduction of the population there.
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Yes, it’s like Malthus says that there
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will be a lot of us, it’s necessary to urgently
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almost exterminate people there so that there
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are no more of them, well, in short, then in the
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end because of this, around and
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then in contrast to his theories,
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especially after the Industrial The revolutions of the 10th
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century in Britain, especially
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others, appeared. That is, critics appeared
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who said yes. Well, he’s wrong,
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look, a revolution has passed, that is,
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humanity is so inventive
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that we will always grow, but at the same time we will
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come up with a technology thanks to which
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we have leveled this balance of resources and
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population growth then there is, in fact, they
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put forward such a countertenor
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and thanks to this, technological
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progress will always equalize this
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balance and accordingly there will be
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more of us, but we
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will still be able to live in relative
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prosperity, yeah, well, that’s what happened, by and
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large, after the Industrial Revolution,
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the century he showed it then we are already
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approaching the seventies and
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the eighties again, everything swung in the other
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direction again When this
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philosophy of the green transition appeared,
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habitat nature and activists of the
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Baby Boomer generation, especially when again We
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returned to these discussions, what, after
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all, and when did the
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first ones appear there? scientists began there to
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study the influence of man on
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nature on the climate on that, well, on everything and
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they are like No, well, after all, we are some kind of
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Well, there is some kind of human influence on the
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climate on the global something is
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happening to the global ecosystem Well and
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today Moreover, this is like a
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trend, that is, but this is an eternal
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discussion like this between those
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who believe that, well, in fact, between
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those who believe more in
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technological progress in science like
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you Oleg Khomyak said yes there somehow
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he called it scientific thinking and
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those who believe that there is still
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some kind of some kind of limits
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Yes Well, it turns out, look today at
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the use of this Term in Russian
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Kremlin propaganda Yes, it
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has connected, which
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means the following: like there is somewhere
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supposedly this golden billion, it’s all
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essentially in the global West and it says
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that the West has almost conspired among themselves
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against other countries in order to
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destroy them because there is not enough space
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for everyone and therefore everything is
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sacrificed and terrible The West means that everyone, in
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this way, is destroyed, plunged
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into such a story in order to
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destroy this Golden
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Billion itself, it is in this context that they
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continue to call it the Golden Billion
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there, again exacerbating
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conspiracy theories. Putin in the same
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interview, I noticed he said
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something it’s like that’s where your vampire point ends
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and that means you won’t
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be stuffing your belly with human flesh anymore. Well,
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look, this is just, like, unthinkable
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categories for the leader of a state, like
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I don’t even know anyone in the history of
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mankind said such nonsense
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at all at the state level Well,
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there is game who is not Well, how is it game like a ball of
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vampires No, well, they said all sorts of game
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there that once upon a time, the president of the Gambia
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who was there considered himself this wizard there,
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he said that he invented a cure for
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AIDS there, well, in short, that is, there was
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a lot of stuff there, uh Well It’s
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just that the idea of ​​the golden
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billion is based on, as we have already found out, yes
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discussions, scientific discussions Well, about
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ecology and about and then they migrated
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into discussions of a
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socio-economic nature about
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inequality because, in principle, the issue of
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resource distribution is directly
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related to inequality and global
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inequality exists that is, it is
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clear that this is not Fake, there are countries that are
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richer and poorer. Well, it is clear that in every
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country there are rich and poor, and the gap
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can be different, somewhere smaller, somewhere
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larger, and eternal debates about how to overcome
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inequality and whether it is worth defeating it at all
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and in In principle, it seems to me
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that what they did in Russia was they pulled this one,
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that is, firstly, yes, they
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essentially took a concept that was born in science,
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more precisely. In scientific discussions in general, it
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was not there in any way theoretically. It’s just that in
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scientific discussions they pulled it and
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used it. as an argument Why the
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current world order, which they
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call American, is not
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unjust Uh-huh That is, this is how
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the evolution happened in this whole
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history, and what about inequality there,
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when you talk about inequality here it’s
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already possible in general here you can
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touch on colonialism there and there and relations
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empires of colonies and the poor Rich and that
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is, here you can actually
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connect emotionally and ideologically with
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different countries depending on their
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history, that is, they are like this is absurd,
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but they use this absurdity in order to
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then form these
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communication bridges ideological with
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other countries, mostly non-Western,
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of course, because by and large
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this argument is resentment. Uh-huh. Well,
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you seem to be playing on the fact that
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injustice, we are poor. They are
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bad, which means they have been drinking our blood from us,
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so to speak, for many centuries,
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now we are as if we’ll hit it all together, we
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must rise up against this like this yes
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against such
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rottenness by the
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richest man in the world Yes there is a
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high level of stratification it’s true yes
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in general it’s like this well no one
00:19:04
cares it’s like you know uh Well
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this is how you know it It’s like, Well, I’m
00:19:09
saying it returns it’s very convenient
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because you’re
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not at all very difficult if you start scientifically
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arguing with it, it’s difficult because you
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start slipping into a
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discussion You know, there And where there’s no
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stratification, well, it’s like Everywhere there is yes, and you
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’re starting to slide into the discussion, but
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which stratification is better, such as in
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Russia or in the States, or And here it is like this and
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here it is like this Well, that is, it begins Well, a
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meaningless discussion that will
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probably never end because well, it’s
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forever, that is, For example, something or something
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was the basis of the controversy surrounding the
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teachings of Malthus, that is, in
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fact, there are still no answers to these
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questions. That is, no one knows. For example,
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will there be enough resources on the earth? Well, we don’t know
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that, well, will there be enough or not? I don’t. Well, I don’t know.
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Maybe it’s enough for 10 million, maybe it’s enough for 15,
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maybe it’s not enough for de, or maybe it’s
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enough for a trillion. Maybe I don’t know, yes, that
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is, no one knows, it’s possible.
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Is unlimited
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unlimited economic growth possible? I don’t
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know. Well, that is, that’s also a question. you
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can eat Well, look, taking into account
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everything that is happening, we already know there are
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startups that grow meat since they
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have acquired enormous penetration into the
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world, vertical so-called irrigation farms
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there are Mars conv Well, Mars is
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at the extreme, I’m not talking about the reality
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that exists now, that is
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Now they already exist and they are present in the
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economy. Vertical farms have
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changed agriculture. They no longer
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require any black soil at all. The
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sooner we allow it in Ukraine, it would
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seem that we should be proud of
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our black soil there. The further it goes, the
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more it makes no sense. Yes Here
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are there any limits to
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human ingenuity? Well, that’s the question. Well, maybe it’s
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obvious that no. Well, most likely no, I don’t know.
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Well, maybe you know, it’s not possible, maybe
00:21:00
not, but maybe, again, how
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can there be no limits, but in the end we
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will become such inventors that we have
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something
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invented crippled you know how often
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these films are there or vice versa there is and
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will be like in the film you watched in the film
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Idiocracy No damn it all for some reason he
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somehow passed by everyone despite the fact that I
00:21:20
think it’s the nineties there Well, it’s like the
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essence of the film is idiocracy, which, uh, like, the
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population of the Earth has grown sharply and the average
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IQ has fallen and everyone has become stupid here and there,
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dude, he ends up in the Future where everyone is
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dumber than him, that is, it’s very
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straight there, well, the film laughs at this
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idea that, as it were, Imagine that we’ve all
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really just become stupid, uh, and Well,
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how to live in such a story, in
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short, that is, and here it turns out and Well,
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you won’t, Well, you won’t fit into all this,
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well, fit into such discussions
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because, well, this firstly, no one
00:21:55
will understand you, secondly, this is not Well, this is not on a
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scientific level, that is, Putin
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Putin and Patrushev are two people who
00:22:01
mostly often talk about this. Well,
00:22:04
they started talking a long time ago. Well, they just made a
00:22:07
stupid instrumental out of it.
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here is the part that
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uh spread in the nineties to the
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current situation, again to
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create the image of the enemy And the plant Where did the
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conspiracy theory come from
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means this is essentially a product of the
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Sovka post by and large uh means uh The
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start of the conspiracy theory based on the
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golden billion was given by the Russian
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publicist Anatoly Tsykunov He promoted,
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he had a theory in the nineties of
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international control over
00:22:42
Russia's resources, that's what he called it, and he sort of said it, well, the
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essence of it boiled down to the fact that
00:22:48
Russia has a lot of natural resources and the
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West wants to control them Yeah, and
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that's all that's kind of all the essence and he
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referred to a bunch of documents there, you know, there are some
00:22:58
UN documents there, and there are
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really existing and non-existent
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documents that really exist there, he
00:23:05
freely quoted them there. Well, how is it, how do
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you know something there? Do you think what was
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meant here? So, in short, of
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course, no one will check, so
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everything sounded very convincing But it was really
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popularized by
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Vladimir Kara Murza’s uncle, the
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current oppositionist who is in
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prison. So Sergei
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wrote a lot about this group of
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international Elites who want to
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redistribute the resources of the entire planet into their
00:23:44
own benefit there about everyone else there,
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and he wrote there that how they
00:23:47
do it, they do it with the help of
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global manipulation of public
00:23:50
consciousness so that this does not mean, well,
00:23:53
in short, that is, this is
00:23:55
how it is now, that’s what they mean for
00:23:59
purposes, they do it all for purposes
00:24:00
maintaining sustainable growth in the countries of the
00:24:03
golden billion while simultaneously denying the
00:24:05
possibility of the same development for the countries of
00:24:07
which he called raw material appendages,
00:24:09
another interesting expression that is also
00:24:11
used raw materials appendages Ms. them
00:24:14
ways to penetrate the markets of the
00:24:15
civilized world in quotes of
00:24:18
course the civilized world That is,
00:24:20
thanks to Sergei Karamurt appeared in the
00:24:23
vast expanses of the CIS, it manifested itself as if, uh, this
00:24:28
means all our charm that
00:24:32
Putin is now using and I must say
00:24:35
that I was also a little surprised. I thought
00:24:38
I knew that the Russian elites under Putin
00:24:41
used this, well, in official
00:24:43
rhetoric, but I found the earliest
00:24:46
use in 2000 That is, when
00:24:49
Putin became president, he was already at the
00:24:51
Asia-Pacific Economic
00:24:53
Cooperation summit, that is, at an international
00:24:55
conference, normally. Here is a phrase on the
00:24:58
development of the world, as you know, conditionally
00:25:00
divided into North and South into the so-called
00:25:02
Golden Billion and the rest of
00:25:04
humanity Yeah, for this year, that is, they
00:25:08
they didn’t use it often, but this is 2000, and
00:25:11
then there’s it from time to time. Well, it’s not
00:25:13
often that
00:25:16
Patrushev pops in there too. Uh-huh. Well, that is, the
00:25:19
FSB is conditional Yes, like Nikola Yes, but I think
00:25:21
you know, you know, I think that this is due to the fact
00:25:23
that they are both just they were imbued with
00:25:26
these ideas, plus look, they were
00:25:28
born in the tenth year, these are by the seventies,
00:25:31
they are just 20 plus years old.
00:25:34
Consider that Well, they entered
00:25:36
adulthood and began to make a career and
00:25:38
just then this is all a bummer, these
00:25:40
theories all appeared, plus uh at the same time,
00:25:45
if we take the Soviet Union, then at the same time there
00:25:47
was just an explosion of all this stuff. Well,
00:25:49
popularity both in the West and in the Soviet
00:25:51
Union, there were all sorts of ufologies,
00:25:54
parapsychologies, right in the sixties. Before
00:25:56
that, several years before that,
00:25:59
in the Soviet Union there were persecutions of
00:26:00
these on cybernetics and geneticists because it was
00:26:03
believed that this was what. That’s exactly what they were doing
00:26:05
to rehabilitate science and there were a lot of
00:26:07
publications in this regard that it was
00:26:09
like, well, when Khrushchev was removed,
00:26:10
it all started more or less after the
00:26:12
year sixty-four, they began to
00:26:14
rehabilitate it all, plus at the same time,
00:26:16
all sorts of these pseudo
00:26:18
scientific
00:26:20
stories of Gumilyov with his
00:26:24
Ethnogenesis were popular, then this Anatoly fmn his
00:26:28
new chronology of world history where he is
00:26:30
there something, this is all just in the
00:26:32
seventies,
00:26:33
then there was this same novel, I
00:26:37
even found it, really Anatoly Ivanova Eternal
00:26:40
Call then there was a film Eternal Call I don’t know
00:26:43
if it’s a
00:26:44
good Soviet film, it’s like they made it. It
00:26:46
was just filmed on the basis of this novel and
00:26:48
so there’s just a short piece of
00:26:51
this novel where the words of one character
00:26:53
in the nineties were taken from a
00:26:55
rewritten novel uh, rewritten like this, they were
00:27:01
inserted there as part of some
00:27:04
American doctrine for the destruction of the
00:27:06
Soviet Union, then it was called the
00:27:09
Dalys plan, and that is, it all seemed to become a kind of
00:27:12
personification of such a you know
00:27:14
uber US plan to destroy the USSR
00:27:17
from the inside, and this is also a conspiracy
00:27:19
theory that is essentially
00:27:22
fueled they want to destroy and
00:27:24
enslave Russia, that is, you
00:27:25
can imagine what kind of
00:27:28
line it goes, and
00:27:31
plus the Strugatsky Brothers also
00:27:33
had it in one of their novels. There is an
00:27:35
alien race that
00:27:37
secretly controlled everyone there. Well, that is, also
00:27:39
a reference to you, I think that Patrushev and Putin they
00:27:42
developed during this period and how they were
00:27:44
imbued with these ideas then many
00:27:46
lived by it and then I don’t know to what
00:27:50
degree of sincerity They generally believe in it,
00:27:51
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s really real,
00:27:53
they think that’s how it is,
00:27:56
but that’s what I’m interested in there is
00:27:58
I think it has something to do with this Why exactly
00:28:01
they if Look for example well plus
00:28:04
you know at what point the mentality of
00:28:07
people When in this year the report came out the
00:28:12
limits of growth of the
00:28:13
Club of Rome Well you know it’s in our
00:28:16
minds how well especially then
00:28:19
the report comes out But he can’t just go out
00:28:22
like that, someone needs it. Well, someone
00:28:24
authorized him from above, see the context of
00:28:28
Kenon’s telegram, when you read it,
00:28:30
you understand how the
00:28:33
intellectual elite and the West are understood, how they are
00:28:35
treated in general in the
00:28:37
Soviet Union, and there The
00:28:40
central idea is that the leadership of
00:28:44
Moscow and the Kremlin are mainly that
00:28:47
is, their approach is paranoid
00:28:50
neurasthenia. They
00:28:53
will each, in general, interpret every phenomenon
00:28:55
as a great
00:28:57
threat to the Soviet Union for themselves
00:28:59
personally, for Moscow for the Kremlin, and so on
00:29:01
for the authorities. here and therefore they
00:29:03
were treated accordingly for half a century,
00:29:06
of course. These are the first and second people. Well, you
00:29:09
understand, we
00:29:12
still haven’t got used to this, open
00:29:14
public discussion, yes, that is,
00:29:16
published a report Well, just a report, yes,
00:29:19
that is, the authors wanted something Well yes, an
00:29:21
influential institution, but nevertheless,
00:29:23
it’s like today, you know, a report. I
00:29:25
still see this story when
00:29:26
some article or report was published somewhere
00:29:29
for or somewhere else, it
00:29:31
definitely means someone
00:29:34
paid for it, or someone there- then
00:29:37
the Kremlin is behind this Moscow Washington Beijing
00:29:39
then some people there, what did they want to
00:29:41
say with this or are they taking the ideas of the report as
00:29:43
ready-made decisions, that is,
00:29:46
there is still this moment that Well, we can’t
00:29:49
I’m not saying that this doesn’t happen But
00:29:51
whatever agreed publication Well, there is
00:29:53
such a moment, but you see, it’s not
00:29:56
allowed here, it’s very rarely allowed
00:29:59
when it’s like this Well, a person
00:30:01
thinks so, he published it and a
00:30:03
discussion begins, the same thing happened then and I
00:30:06
think it’s also connected with this. Which, yeah,
00:30:08
it’s clear That’s it a report came out,
00:30:10
maybe it means something, probably
00:30:12
it means that there is some kind of plan to
00:30:14
enslave these non-
00:30:16
Golden Billion and so on. What does it have to do with
00:30:18
me and what does it have to do with it? Look how many people lived in
00:30:20
this and with this I even found I I found an
00:30:23
interview with Boris Nemtsov where he, well,
00:30:27
literally like that, but he True, he spoke about
00:30:30
it in such a positive way, you know.
00:30:32
I’ll read it to you here,
00:30:34
like a small one,
00:30:37
now it’ll load. That is,
00:30:40
he said they asked him there. Well,
00:30:43
you know that too it is indicative that Well, there is
00:30:47
such a Golden Billion, these are successful
00:30:48
countries that live without violence and where
00:30:50
there is a powerful middle class in the countries of the
00:30:52
Golden Billion human rights
00:30:54
Law and democracy are considered
00:30:55
the main values ​​If you want to join the
00:30:57
Golden Billion in the club of the rich and
00:30:59
prosperous, then please don’t
00:31:01
talk about America and about universal human
00:31:04
values, that is, look, it’s like he’s
00:31:06
talking about good things, but this is just this,
00:31:08
well, just operating with this term,
00:31:10
which was like this Well, Well, he said That
00:31:12
is, everyone understands What he’s talking about Yes, in the
00:31:13
Russian-speaking environment That is, even Boris
00:31:15
Nemtsov about this, that is, they
00:31:17
lived with this, this is Mikhail Kovalchuk, a
00:31:20
close ideological friend of Putin
00:31:21
who is believed to have influenced
00:31:23
Putin’s ideology very much,
00:31:24
he also spoke in Valdai back in 2015
00:31:26
and told a prog about the Golden
00:31:28
Billion in the West who wants to
00:31:30
enslave humanity through
00:31:31
genetic experiments to create
00:31:33
some kind of stubborn person like
00:31:36
this subordinate Well, in short, I, well, I
00:31:38
won’t retell all this, the most
00:31:41
interesting thing is that exactly in the twenty-second,
00:31:43
starting from the twenty-second, this
00:31:45
story went straight to the world
00:31:47
level That is, I even found I I thought this is
00:31:49
not the highest level I think I wanted to
00:31:51
read Karaganov who was in his
00:31:53
article but no, I found Sergei
00:31:55
Lavrov’s speech at the UN at the UN That is, he is from the
00:31:59
UN rostrum, that is, right now I’m just this I’m
00:32:02
not I honestly missed this moment
00:32:04
this was on September 24 th Yeah
00:32:08
Russia firmly chose the WTO So
00:32:11
now the unipolar
00:32:13
model of world development is becoming a thing of the past, which
00:32:15
served the interests of the West of the golden
00:32:17
billion whose excess consumption of the Centuries
00:32:20
was ensured at the expense of the resources of Asia,
00:32:21
Africa and Latin America, today the
00:32:24
formation of sovereign states
00:32:26
ready to defend national interests
00:32:28
leads to the formation of an equal,
00:32:29
socially oriented and sustainable
00:32:31
multipolarity uh I well
00:32:35
uh Russia since 2022
00:32:40
has finally begun to use this specifically for a
00:32:41
global
00:32:43
audience And the most interesting beginning
00:32:46
is conceptualism This is already to Karaganov
00:32:48
where he said this in the article That is, he is
00:32:50
already using it as uh well in fact,
00:32:52
part of considering their worldview, that is,
00:32:54
for him, this is what he wrote in the article,
00:32:57
uh, uh, which was called the century
00:33:00
of wars, yes, the century of wars, part
00:33:05
two, I don’t know if
00:33:09
I’ll find it. I think that I
00:33:11
[music]
00:33:13
will find it, well, he I probably won’t now
00:33:17
I’ll find it right away quickly That is, he wrote about
00:33:20
he also wrote about the fact that there is, well, the
00:33:23
Golden Billion, as it were, yes, these are the
00:33:25
rich countries of the West and he immediately has the concept of
00:33:28
the global majority. That is, the
00:33:30
global majority is everyone else. It’s
00:33:32
clear
00:33:35
and why the majority because well
00:33:37
naturally, that is, to emphasize
00:33:40
that you seem to understand us more. That’s why
00:33:45
I, this is what’s new. That is,
00:33:49
before, at this level, Russia did not
00:33:52
use another Rhone, if in a year,
00:33:55
how would it
00:33:56
be used, how would it develop maturely
00:33:58
In the depths of I do
00:34:02
n’t even think that he believed there. To be honest, I
00:34:03
wouldn’t like to understand what he
00:34:05
believes, but instrumentally it’s like it’s
00:34:08
instrumentally it’s definitely
00:34:10
instrumental. That is, these are two words
00:34:12
that help to separate all other people
00:34:15
from the conditional global West.
00:34:17
And in fact, socio-economically
00:34:21
set up against Mr. Yes, socially,
00:34:22
and look, it doesn’t even work out, they
00:34:24
use a national characteristic
00:34:26
because Well, in itself, the history of the gap
00:34:30
between the north and south is economic.
00:34:32
Well, initially in general In the eighties,
00:34:34
when this theory appeared, North
00:34:35
global North global south is
00:34:37
economy That is, it was in terms of the level of
00:34:38
income of such countries mainly Since
00:34:41
then Much has changed Now we
00:34:43
have non-Western countries that are also
00:34:45
Rich and so on, but in Russia they
00:34:48
use this on a national
00:34:49
basis, that is, there are Anglo-Saxons West
00:34:52
That is, this mostly white Europeans,
00:34:55
Americans, Australians, New Zealanders and
00:34:57
there Japan. In general, in short, plus there is
00:35:01
everyone else. That is, it’s all not
00:35:02
Western, but Africa Latin America, the
00:35:04
Middle East, Asia. That is, this is the first
00:35:07
they use it only in this way,
00:35:09
sometimes they use it in
00:35:12
socio-economic key, but in the
00:35:14
anti-colonial agenda That is, when
00:35:15
you say that these are former empires, but
00:35:19
former colonies, and so it turns out that the empires
00:35:21
sucked resources from the colonies and now the
00:35:23
colonies are poor, that’s how it all is
00:35:26
explained Why a billion Listen Nuno
00:35:29
actually sounds very Just as
00:35:31
instrumental as taking away and it’s impossible
00:35:33
to divide the land like the peasants there and it
00:35:35
should be like that in propaganda,
00:35:36
well, you can’t. That’s why I
00:35:38
say that it’s essentially
00:35:41
instrumentalism for creating the image of the
00:35:44
enemy, that is, they formed it in
00:35:46
Russia, but in Russia it was easy
00:35:48
because all this is developing in Russia in the Russian-speaking
00:35:50
environment now. The main task of the
00:35:52
Russian
00:35:53
leadership is essentially to impose this on the
00:35:56
world level. Yes, that is, they
00:35:58
haven’t done it yet because let’s
00:36:00
touch on this, let’s reveal this story, how
00:36:02
this whole story goes to in the global
00:36:05
South in the non-Western World, it can
00:36:07
come because look at the story about the
00:36:10
Golden Billion, it fits well, as
00:36:12
we already understood, into the anti-colonial
00:36:13
agenda. And this applies to many
00:36:16
states, especially in Africa and the
00:36:17
Middle East, where things are still very acute.
00:36:21
These are the feelings, uh, well, very he is keenly
00:36:25
and sensitive to his own,
00:36:27
this is about history, that is, there is a
00:36:30
lot in the national memory; it is connected
00:36:32
with relations with their former
00:36:34
metropolises, which were often
00:36:37
painful, especially in Africa,
00:36:40
because well, there you have to look, well,
00:36:42
this goes especially well in the
00:36:44
French-speaking zone
00:36:49
from Britain it was always difficult for them to divorce
00:36:53
with the colonies and this seems to
00:36:56
fit well with Britain, it’s more difficult but
00:36:58
then there This story of the golden billion
00:37:01
fits well on the agenda of the left uh in
00:37:05
Western communities Uh-huh That is, this is not
00:37:07
only for the non-West Why Because well
00:37:10
uh very well, some radical left
00:37:13
left liberal uh movement organizations
00:37:16
Well, not all but some Yes, I would say the
00:37:18
majority They are uh one of their main
00:37:21
postulates Why do they criticize there,
00:37:23
for example, right-wing governments in general,
00:37:25
traditional governments are for the gap, that is, they are
00:37:28
because of That is, their themes are the fight against
00:37:29
poverty, the gap between the rich and the
00:37:31
poor, they always try to
00:37:33
play at the level of the shop. Uh-huh And that’s
00:37:36
exactly the radical left. This
00:37:37
fits well with the Golden billion that
00:37:40
leads the poor. Well, yes, well, neo-Marxism
00:37:43
will not like it for everyone, again, those
00:37:45
who are smart Well, they’re able to think a little bit.
00:37:47
It’s clear they’ll kind of laugh at
00:37:50
this. That’s because even they do
00:37:52
n’t seem to promote such nonsense, such nonsense,
00:37:54
but in some, but not in the leftist
00:37:58
agenda as a whole, this may fit in, but
00:38:01
this fits in Well, also in the religious
00:38:05
agenda I think, well, because in general
00:38:08
Well, look, this leads you to the idea of ​​an
00:38:10
existential war, that is, that well,
00:38:13
there is E well, it’s just Well, it’s like there’s
00:38:18
a minority sitting there uh and Well, they just want to
00:38:21
kill you, they want to destroy you,
00:38:23
Satanists, vampires And even Satanists and
00:38:26
vampires are
00:38:32
lack of spirituality and without God. And all the more
00:38:35
naturally, you understand, and from here it’s
00:38:38
like, why is Russia, coupled with this,
00:38:40
right away they have a little train going on?
00:38:42
This is Anti LGBT Yes, that is, you see, I mean, there are
00:38:46
already three of them like Three groups
00:38:48
that include Where can a golden
00:38:51
story with a golden billion lie, that is, it is
00:38:52
necessary to correct this story, it’s clear
00:38:54
there, but that is, you can’t tell it
00:38:56
like a story like that, just like that, you know, it
00:38:59
throws it at Tucker Carlson, well,
00:39:01
it needs to be somehow smarter, of course Lavrov
00:39:03
is doing it smarter. I don’t think
00:39:06
he didn’t do it. It’s just, in
00:39:07
my opinion, it was with Kiselyov, it was a
00:39:10
program interview. Yes, before
00:39:12
exactly the election, before the re-
00:39:14
election, like, before the confirmation of
00:39:16
his term in the type elections. That is, he it’s
00:39:19
like he said it and gave it all away, that’s why
00:39:22
it seems like it’s
00:39:25
for internal consumption, for sure. Well, it
00:39:28
also turns out to influence someone, that
00:39:31
is, definitely for it to be
00:39:32
used somewhere else. Yes, that’s how it
00:39:36
falls like this that is, and in principle,
00:39:38
now the task of Russia is to somehow
00:39:43
popularize this, well, I think they will start from
00:39:45
Africa, it flies best there, why
00:39:48
Well, I think so, why because there Well,
00:39:50
firstly, there are a lot of illiterate people,
00:39:52
little literate, plus they are now at such a
00:39:56
very level of
00:40:01
anti-French ressentiment Russia now has
00:40:03
all sorts of entry points, they are opening
00:40:05
cultural centers Media and so on, the
00:40:07
Middle East is also still possible on an
00:40:10
Arab street It’s more difficult, but it’s possible, but
00:40:14
that’s what I’m saying, it needs to be
00:40:15
wrapped up in a religious agenda with
00:40:17
this sauce, it’s like a [ __ ] without
00:40:19
spirituality and morality and Western
00:40:22
communities, well, in Asia it’s more difficult
00:40:25
because in Asia there are a lot of rich countries Yeah,
00:40:27
which in general, the Golden Billion
00:40:30
turns out to be the second Golden Billion,
00:40:33
it turns out, but no Well, yes, it is Actually
00:40:36
interesting because by and large
00:40:38
Yes, and in Russia there is a Golden Billion Well, if
00:40:41
so, that is, if you look at them, if you
00:40:43
use their own logic against them, then it
00:40:44
turns out that all these years, starting from
00:40:47
all 20 years of Putin’s rule, it turns out that the
00:40:51
Russians
00:40:52
were robbed by these totalitarian world
00:40:55
elites and here one of the two, either Putin
00:40:58
did nothing Well, he couldn’t do anything, he couldn’t
00:41:01
defeat them in any way Well, the question is where did
00:41:03
he get the money then, this is the second, this
00:41:05
begs the question of the second or he was in cahoots with them
00:41:08
and then he decided to cheat them And
00:41:12
the war began Well, that’s it Well, that
00:41:14
is, in short, this raises the question then
00:41:16
Well, actually, why in Russia are there a lot of
00:41:19
poor people and the entire Elite is rich? They themselves
00:41:21
know it and they laugh at it, it’s everywhere,
00:41:23
it’s in any of the People’s discourse, it’s just
00:41:25
like ours, that is, it
00:41:28
raises questions Isn’t Putin and
00:41:31
his entourage part of the golden billion
00:41:33
who are simply schismatics and seem to be
00:41:36
solving their own problems? They didn’t come to an agreement with
00:41:39
the Anglo-Saxons. Well, as of right now, yes, for sure. Well,
00:41:41
the question here is that in any
00:41:44
case, they are like a tool maker, yes, that
00:41:47
is, they this has already achieved
00:41:50
some kind of penetration, it’s already all started,
00:41:53
it’s already like a national, it’s not even a
00:41:54
national, a global doctrine like that, from a
00:41:58
marginal theory in Soviet times,
00:42:01
it grew straight into a whole mainstream
00:42:04
discourse like that, you know, with the goal of a world
00:42:07
Revolution, practically what, well, what do they
00:42:10
think? yes, they think that it’s
00:42:11
straight in general, that’s straight, I don’t think that it
00:42:14
will fly into the world revolution, but yes, that
00:42:17
is, it turns out that the most vulnerable are
00:42:20
peoples where there is a low level of literacy,
00:42:23
where there is a very serious
00:42:32
anti-parasite now, France is hated by everything there,
00:42:34
just like that, where there are wars this is
00:42:37
good because it explains a lot of
00:42:39
problems Why are you so poor Golden
00:42:41
billion zhezh Well, you have to go to war with
00:42:44
him, that is, usually in a country
00:42:47
in a crisis they are the most vulnerable, that
00:42:50
is, well, and where the educational
00:42:51
system does not seem to work very well
00:42:54
that is, with one hand you can create a crisis for them,
00:42:55
as if to push the crisis, and with
00:42:57
the other, as if to show that there is a way out,
00:42:59
so look, it’s absolutely the same. This is exactly the
00:43:01
same as the Islamic state in the Middle
00:43:03
East, why did it rise? Where did
00:43:04
the terrorists of the Islamic
00:43:06
state come from, who captured half of Syria and
00:43:08
almost half of Iraq there uh they, too, they also
00:43:11
appeared in conditions of an acute crisis in
00:43:13
Iraq when everyone, well, poverty, poverty,
00:43:16
wars, the war there, well, the consequences of the
00:43:17
American invasion and they are the same, they
00:43:19
also sold a super simple
00:43:21
model,
00:43:22
uh Well, everything is bad with us because the
00:43:25
Western crusaders Uh-huh they need to be kicked out
00:43:27
Everything Let's live like
00:43:31
the prophet lived in the Middle Ages everything Well that's Well at
00:43:33
least they didn't actually
00:43:35
build it there everything was very
00:43:36
pragmatic They made
00:43:38
millions there from their oil deals but
00:43:40
nevertheless they also sold super a
00:43:42
simple, most primitive story
00:43:44
in which Well, in which they recruited
00:43:48
illiterate people at the grassroots level So
00:43:51
people from many from nothing Well, out of desperation from
00:43:55
some of these, they went and thought
00:43:57
that this was kind of a good good option
00:43:59
Russia sells the same thing on the world market
00:44:01
level Taking advantage of the problems that
00:44:04
exist in different countries or creating
00:44:06
these problems or Taking advantage of existing
00:44:09
problems and creating this
00:44:11
counterbalance And and of course, playing on the
00:44:12
more global history of the split between the West
00:44:14
and the non-West, which really exists
00:44:16
for other reasons there,
00:44:18
historical political ideological
00:44:20
economic geopolitical and so on. there is
00:44:22
already, but they are simply playing on this split,
00:44:24
confirming it, further aggravating it and
00:44:27
drawing on such
00:44:29
conspiracy theories. Because it is beneficial for them,
00:44:31
that is, because it is very important for them
00:44:33
that the West and the West remain
00:44:35
divided and that Russia is outside the West.
00:44:38
Uh-huh and well, I’m like It would be a paradox
00:44:44
Yes, that Russia is outside the West, considering that, well,
00:44:46
Russia has always been part of the Western world
00:44:48
and has strived to be of the Western world
00:44:51
historically But now they are trying
00:44:53
to speak on behalf of the non-Western world, well,
00:44:57
the only thing they have so far is Well, they are simply
00:45:00
successful in some things only due to the
00:45:02
fact that, unfortunately, Western countries Well,
00:45:04
they can’t somehow fight off this
00:45:06
discourse yet, well, somehow they’re not
00:45:08
doing very well, so now they’re fighting
00:45:11
it off with the axis of evil again Uh-huh, but I don’t know, I
00:45:15
always said that yes, the axis of evil Why I do
00:45:17
n’t like this term because they
00:45:18
return to what has already been
00:45:20
discredited. Well, you all played this
00:45:22
story already with Iraq and Afghanistan,
00:45:24
well, yes, it can be sold there in the
00:45:27
West. Maybe, but this is
00:45:30
not perceived at all. That is, if you
00:45:31
want to compete with Russia there in
00:45:33
Africa, it won’t sell at all,
00:45:35
so for now, well, well, I don’t know,
00:45:38
they don’t work with the Russians,
00:45:40
these are all sorts of discursive us
00:45:43
Well, I hope that someday they will
00:45:45
work, yes Well, look, let’s state
00:45:47
that the moment is like this, you said at the beginning
00:45:49
that
00:45:57
population growth will
00:45:59
outpace economic growth and will
00:46:02
cause wars. So everything happens
00:46:05
exactly the other way around. Well, yes, wars
00:46:08
are caused more likely by an oversaturation of
00:46:11
economic growth because, well, there is a war
00:46:14
on the part of Russia on the territory of Ukraine.
00:46:16
This is clearly a war caused by the wealth of
00:46:19
Russia, that is, Russia became so
00:46:22
overly rich, inflated with wealth, that it
00:46:25
simply did not know what to do with the money and
00:46:27
resources and therefore easily
00:46:29
decided on such an adventure as an attempt
00:46:31
to seize the entire territory of Ukraine or
00:46:34
whatever, I don’t think that this is directly related to
00:46:37
money
00:46:38
I would, well, I don’t think so, our
00:46:41
war is purely political and ideological,
00:46:43
that is, Well, look, well, it is
00:46:44
also caused by economic reasons, economic growth.
00:46:46
That is, in Russia there now, let’s say,
00:46:48
300 yards have been arrested only there
00:46:50
somewhere in the west. And there is also a certain
00:46:53
amount there is still a certain amount of gold there,
00:46:56
which is simply
00:46:58
based on the economic ones, that is, Russia
00:47:00
felt confident; it was the oil
00:47:02
boom that gave them a crapload of money,
00:47:05
especially in the 2000s when we
00:47:07
blew it. We seemed to live simply and
00:47:09
everything was fine for everyone and We did
00:47:11
n’t seem to pay much attention to the fact that the oil
00:47:14
boom allowed Russia to recover after
00:47:16
the nineties. And by the way, it’s interesting. I’m also in
00:47:19
the context. What could it be possible
00:47:22
to assume that this popularization of
00:47:25
conspiracy theories in Russia by the Russian-speaking
00:47:27
environment could arise, among other things, in
00:47:29
contrast to the dashing Den? What are we they lived
00:47:31
poorly, these were liberal reforms, and
00:47:33
liberal reforms were supported by the West. Which
00:47:35
means this was an attempt by the West to
00:47:38
enslave us. And this is not the first time I
00:47:42
’ve noticed how Putinists very often
00:47:46
carry out. Well, very often they criticize the
00:47:49
Yeltsin era, and this is precisely why they think that
00:47:51
he is like this and Gorbachev in general,
00:47:53
Gorbachev destroyed the Soviet Union, you know,
00:47:55
this is the same thesis, Gorbachev was the
00:47:57
last person who wanted to
00:47:58
destroy the Soviet Union. You know, if
00:48:00
you read about him at all, look at it, it’s
00:48:02
just him. He didn’t want it at all, he
00:48:04
directly did everything to prevent this from happening, but
00:48:07
here They have these two theses:
00:48:09
Gorbachev and his Perestroika destroyed the
00:48:11
Soviet Union. And by the way, from the point of view of
00:48:13
the theory of the golden billion, he
00:48:15
did this on purpose because it was a conspiracy of
00:48:17
those very Illuminati and
00:48:20
Yeltsin seemed to be bad liberal reforms
00:48:22
that were precisely aimed at
00:48:25
enslavement Russia, but then, not later,
00:48:27
that’s all. Then we start getting up from our knees, yes,
00:48:29
that is, in this regard, yes, they
00:48:30
earned a lot of money, they were able to
00:48:32
recover, strengthen their economy,
00:48:34
and since in Russia the sensitivity of
00:48:37
inequality Uh-huh is low Well, as we see
00:48:42
people Well, somehow it’s normal Well we live and
00:48:44
live So we, too, by the way, have
00:48:47
sensitivity and the same, that’s why they
00:48:51
They, that is, they accumulated resources and could
00:48:54
afford to think aggressively in geopolitics
00:48:59
Here’s the game of the game, you know,
00:49:01
we come here, these armies here you know how to
00:49:04
strategy But the only problem is that
00:49:06
this it’s not just there We’re there now, it’s
00:49:07
twitching,
00:49:27
yes, or for a resource. Well, for some
00:49:28
real conflict, what is this con, you
00:49:30
understand, yes, or for water, for example, for
00:49:32
water resources there, well, that is, you
00:49:34
understand there, at least the subject of the dispute is there, for
00:49:36
example, here so and so,
00:49:40
of course, not all wars for land are resolved either, but the
00:49:41
Israeli-Palestinian one, as we see, is
00:49:43
not resolved in any way. Although I say it
00:49:45
all started with land, land disputes, but
00:49:47
here there is a lot of abstract things,
00:49:51
a lot of this, it
00:49:53
comes in far-fetched. That is, like you with
00:49:55
everyone the question arises of how to speak to these,
00:49:57
that is, what do you offer Putin? Yes, this is
00:50:00
how you
00:50:01
will calm him down, that is, because
00:50:03
obviously in such a framework there are
00:50:05
rational arguments, but they may
00:50:08
not always
00:50:09
work, why For example, I say, I’m
00:50:12
convinced why a supporter of the
00:50:14
thesis that China will not influence
00:50:16
Russia no matter how much he wants, but if
00:50:18
tomorrow China says so, I’ll call Putin and
00:50:22
say I’m there economically. Now I’ll
00:50:24
say. So, let’s be sure
00:50:27
that Well, maybe they won’t succeed
00:50:30
because there’s something else there are also, that is, there are
00:50:32
economic arguments, maybe
00:50:34
some of the Elites will be heard, but I’m sure that some of
00:50:37
them are Well, they’ll say something like this Well, we
00:50:40
heard you, but we have a kind of Golden
00:50:42
Billion here We are on fire Russia Under siege The enemy is at the
00:50:45
gates NATO bases bio-laboratories And
00:50:47
still, you are a
00:50:54
traitor. Russia sees,
00:50:57
regarding, for example, Trump, how
00:51:00
clear it is already becoming, for example,
00:51:02
instrumentally against China, that is,
00:51:05
Russia sees that it is possible to jump out of this
00:51:08
story if you wait for the results of
00:51:09
the election in the United States; Trump will change the
00:51:12
foreign policy doctrine; he will again move on to
00:51:15
bilateral relations there, not as a bloc;
00:51:18
will go to ram China
00:51:20
IT can
00:51:23
Rava and
00:51:25
sza in Let there be a price for this issue and
00:51:28
China understands this, that is, it is obvious that
00:51:30
China understands this because Trump for
00:51:32
China is an exact enemy, absolutely
00:51:35
understandable. Well, the Destroyer is a ram that seems to have
00:51:39
already caused a lot of trouble,
00:51:40
hence there were a lot of reactions connected with
00:51:42
Covid and so on, where
00:51:44
China tried to win back this
00:51:46
situation there, in general, for China, the arrival of Trump is
00:51:49
worse than the presence of
00:51:51
Biden. I would argue. Well, there are a lot of
00:51:54
say such things Conte
00:51:57
names, we perceive it, we perceive it because we
00:52:01
perceive it. Well, there are simply no practical
00:52:04
arguments that say about the fact that
00:52:06
Trump will do something terrible with China.
00:52:08
I mean calculate the risks. That
00:52:10
is, if China looks at the
00:52:12
situation yes. Here and now they already had a
00:52:14
negative experience when there was a
00:52:16
trade war against them that Trump started,
00:52:18
then they were forced to interrupted by
00:52:20
Covid, as it were, and the rest of the story
00:52:23
that happened, but again with the trade
00:52:25
war, that is, yes, they lost something. But
00:52:27
it was, you know, I always did,
00:52:30
from my point of view, the difference between Trump and
00:52:31
Biden is
00:52:33
in the strategic length of their visa
00:52:37
relative to China, that is Trump, he
00:52:40
focused on tactical steps here
00:52:43
and now, like a trade war. They
00:52:45
then agreed on a trade
00:52:46
agreement and that’s it. That is, he brought it
00:52:48
to the end, like they signed something, that’s
00:52:50
all over. And then
00:52:53
he blamed the coronavirus China is
00:52:55
something complicated there, but in the end, well, really, well,
00:52:57
nothing of any practical action, he did
00:52:59
n’t take any serious actions against
00:53:00
China, Biden had
00:53:01
less of this tactical,
00:53:04
some of these sharp body movements,
00:53:06
but he works, his team there,
00:53:09
maybe not personally, he’s there but he
00:53:10
has smart people around him who understand
00:53:13
this, as if in the institutionalization of
00:53:16
the confrontation, that is, they build
00:53:18
partnerships there, small alliances with some
00:53:20
countries, they bring up new ones, which Trump did not
00:53:22
do. That is, from the point
00:53:25
of view of the confrontation, Biden is more dangerous
00:53:28
for China Well, team Biden because
00:53:31
Trump Well, it’s incomprehensible; Trump is
00:53:34
more likely simply incomprehensible; he’s dangerous because
00:53:36
he’s incomprehensible; that is, there may be something
00:53:38
terrible. Or maybe in general there is something
00:53:40
in this too. Yes, and in this regard, I
00:53:42
agree. But with Putin, really
00:53:44
if take internationally This is the
00:53:45
international dimension that
00:53:47
he has for him, his favorite topic for him.
00:53:49
He, yes, he, he strives to play
00:53:53
this card that I am the third pole between the
00:53:55
USA and China. Yes, the Chinese know this and for
00:53:58
this reason China is doing everything now
00:54:00
to The Russian economy gradually grew to suit
00:54:02
itself in order to create such
00:54:05
conditions, as I see in the future,
00:54:07
such conditions that under any president
00:54:10
in Russia they would be dependent on China and
00:54:12
they would not go anywhere. That is,
00:54:15
this is what China is doing now, that
00:54:16
is, they are creating such an economic
00:54:19
situation in which Russia will be so
00:54:21
dependent on the Chinese economy that not a
00:54:23
single Leader in Russia, even about the West, will
00:54:25
be able to go against China
00:54:28
completely. That is, he will be forced to
00:54:30
constantly look back at their interests. It is
00:54:32
in this logic that they will not
00:54:33
naturally ask Russia about nothing and
00:54:35
why not, of course, let it continue there,
00:54:38
that is, that is why they are this is the weakening of
00:54:40
Russia Yes, that is, if For example,
00:54:42
therefore, for example, for them, in principle, there
00:54:45
will be another year of war Well, it will be good to
00:54:47
freeze the war Okay Let there be
00:54:49
a freeze, they will continue anyway
00:54:50
because Russia will remain under
00:54:51
sanctions in any case, they proceed from the fact
00:54:53
that this will last for a long time, that is, in this regard, it is
00:54:55
suitable for the Chinese and they will do it.
00:54:57
Well, well, how to create exactly such a
00:54:59
situation, including because they
00:55:01
know what and because they not profitable
00:55:03
too strong Russia at hand
00:55:05
Especially with such
00:55:07
strange ideological stories about the Golden Billion
00:55:09
and the Return of Historical
00:55:11
Lands, last week there was a publication of a
00:55:14
post Desperate Alliance of Russia China
00:55:17
Iran and North Korea I think you
00:55:20
read it, I’m interested in this in the context of this
00:55:23
publication only one the thesis, as it were, to
00:55:25
ask a question in its development That
00:55:29
is, here Here the Author says that This
00:55:31
idea is becoming quite
00:55:34
widely discussed within the States themselves,
00:55:37
that in general it is impossible to look at the
00:55:41
Union of the so-called Russia North
00:55:45
Korea Iran China as just axis of evil
00:55:48
And this is more of a Union of despair that it’s like they’re
00:55:51
backed into a corner, they don’t seem to have
00:55:54
any opportunities, but I agree with this, it’s
00:55:57
interesting, let’s
00:56:00
develop just that, that’s the thesis
00:56:03
that I Well, I formulated it differently
00:56:05
But this is it what I rather believe in
00:56:08
because well, firstly, there is, yes, there I wo
00:56:10
n’t talk about the historical
00:56:17
background; different histories have
00:56:20
such a complex history among
00:56:23
themselves; well, my thesis has always been
00:56:27
that it is the current context that it creates, that
00:56:30
is, that This is a situational partnership
00:56:32
that is determined by the current
00:56:34
context. I am almost sure
00:56:37
that if the West offers Iran or North Korea or
00:56:40
China tomorrow some kind of
00:56:43
deal that takes into account its
00:56:45
interests, they will agree to it because it has been the
00:56:49
basis of foreign policy for at least the
00:56:52
last 10 years. Iran North
00:56:55
Korea
00:56:57
in China the situation there is more complicated given
00:56:59
its global ambitions, but North Korea
00:57:01
Iran and this was visible in practice was
00:57:03
confirmed by the negotiations that they
00:57:05
conducted with the West for a long time, their desire
00:57:08
was to reach an agreement with the west, if Iran did
00:57:10
not want to negotiate with the west, they would
00:57:12
not have negotiated never, that is, they
00:57:14
first conducted 10 years of
00:57:16
joint venture negotiations on the fifteenth nuclear treaty, signed
00:57:20
an agreement, then Trump
00:57:23
abandoned them and legally
00:57:28
then they fought there, but in the end they
00:57:32
went back to negotiations with Biden in 1
00:57:34
year when he came to power, the negotiations
00:57:36
did not end in anything, but even now I
00:57:41
read about the fact that the states there, through Oman,
00:57:44
Saudi Arabia, are sending them signals
00:57:46
that let’s
00:57:47
talk and so on. That is, by
00:57:49
and large, Iran is interested in
00:57:52
negotiating with the West and this is
00:57:54
logical because Russia cannot
00:57:57
give them what Western markets can Yeah
00:57:59
Well, this is a fact. Well, Russia doesn’t have such
00:58:02
resources. Well, China does, but China
00:58:05
behaves like this incomprehensibly,
00:58:08
plus it’s difficult with China because they are also
00:58:12
afraid to do some things because of
00:58:13
sanctions, that is, in North Korea it’s the
00:58:16
same if look at their actions, what
00:58:18
they are doing, especially lately,
00:58:19
they are constantly talking there. Let's
00:58:22
negotiate with us. Let's
00:58:24
admit that this is all the desire to be
00:58:26
recognized as a nuclear state, the lifting of
00:58:28
sanctions, this is all the desire for negotiations
00:58:30
not about war, otherwise they would have gone to war a
00:58:32
long time ago. therefore, this is all a
00:58:35
situational partnership, that is, they are
00:58:37
partners with each other for the reason that
00:58:39
they have a narrow corridor of opportunities, they need to
00:58:42
somehow resist the collective
00:58:43
West. The so-called and how to do this, we
00:58:45
must do it together. It’s easier than
00:58:47
one at a time. So they are trying where they can
00:58:50
find some kind of history, the
00:58:53
Russians know all these vulnerabilities, knowing
00:58:56
that Iran now has a very narrow
00:58:58
corridor of opportunities; North Korea
00:59:00
also has no alternatives. No, well, they seem to be
00:59:02
taking advantage of it in this regard.
00:59:04
Russian diplomacy plus is also
00:59:06
working well, really working well for
00:59:08
they are strong, there are people who know how to
00:59:11
sell there, and that’s how it all
00:59:15
works, but I’m almost sure that this
00:59:17
can be broken if the West is
00:59:19
pragmatic and more flexible. You need to
00:59:22
step over many things, for example,
00:59:24
which ones. Well, look at
00:59:26
what the problem is with Iran uh, Americans don’t
00:59:29
trust them, Iranians don’t trust them. Well,
00:59:31
it’s clear, uh, the states are not
00:59:42
a company
00:59:50
that they won’t come out again Well, that’s
00:59:53
logical. You, well, you negotiate with a
00:59:55
person, he’s cheating on you, how
00:59:57
will you negotiate with him for the second time,
00:59:58
you’ll probably be on watch for the second
01:00:00
time you will already be thinking, give me
01:00:02
additional guarantees. Let’s
01:00:04
go there, maybe another
01:00:06
notary there has certified something. Well, that is, you
01:00:08
will already begin to
01:00:11
put forward some additional demands, and that is, the states, not
01:00:14
the company,
01:00:26
will offer Iran a compromise Yes, it will be
01:00:28
toxic, unpopular the idea, uh, that is,
01:00:30
it will have to be promoted in spite of that. That is,
01:00:33
it directly requires a person who simply made a
01:00:35
strong-willed decision. Well, like Obama
01:00:38
did it in the fifteenth year, he was very
01:00:40
criticized, but there was no
01:00:41
bipartisan support. That is, he
01:00:43
barely sold this nuclear deal
01:00:45
there, bypassing Congress, it was carried out, well,
01:00:48
why did Trump easily withdraw from it
01:00:50
because Congress could not approve it,
01:00:53
that Obama did not have
01:00:54
a majority, but that is, it turns out that
01:00:57
Obama was not able to
01:00:59
convince most of the people that it was necessary.
01:01:03
Well, it must support it that this is kind of
01:01:06
important.
01:01:07
This is the problem, that is, you need to
01:01:09
step over, that is, you need to, that is, in
01:01:12
fact, you need to make an unpopular
01:01:14
decision to step over your opponents,
01:01:17
through yourself, through some members of your
01:01:18
team who will not
01:01:20
support and Well, again, it is advisable to
01:01:23
probably do this with the allies so that
01:01:25
it would be like a collegial decision. They
01:01:27
did it with the Europeans, but Trump
01:01:29
sent the Europeans to hell. They
01:01:31
remained in the nuclear deal and the
01:01:33
Europeans still formally remain. None of
01:01:35
them withdrew except the United States, but
01:01:37
since the states withdrew. And this was the key
01:01:39
moment, then accordingly the story went
01:01:42
that it was kind of useless to keep it afloat,
01:01:46
well, that is, again, we need to work with Israel
01:01:49
because Israel is one of the heads,
01:01:51
as they write correctly, in my chat, well, in the chat
01:01:52
that yes Israel
01:01:56
and especially Trump when he came to
01:01:58
the authorities, that is, it means they need to somehow
01:02:01
come to an agreement with Israel and to come to an agreement with
01:02:03
Israel, something needs to be done,
01:02:04
some kind of miracle, so that they and Iran
01:02:07
stop perceiving themselves as
01:02:08
existential enemies, how to do this
01:02:10
is not clear In short, that is, these are all
01:02:13
very complex things and I think because
01:02:15
of the complexity of this issue Well,
01:02:17
North Korea doesn’t want to deal with this, the
01:02:19
same story, that is, North Korea,
01:02:21
again, as you imagine
01:02:23
Let’s forget everything, lift the sanctions on North
01:02:25
Korea
01:02:26
Well, that is, most likely,
01:02:29
if sanctions are lifted from North Korea
01:02:31
needs no I can’t imagine this I I The fact is
01:02:33
that look how interested I am in
01:02:34
their line of thought Well, okay, let’s
01:02:38
assume that all these countries
01:02:41
rushed into each other’s arms out of despair and that means
01:02:44
they are pursuing such a military-style policy
01:02:48
as would be aimed at the
01:02:50
destruction of various territories and people,
01:02:53
as if to confront the West Yes, but
01:02:56
well, sort of
01:02:57
Okay, that is, where will their thought
01:03:00
lead the Americans, as it were, in this regard?
01:03:02
Well, well, despair is not an axis of evil, it is an
01:03:05
axis of despair. And what does this mean that this is not
01:03:09
united forever, that is, it means that these
01:03:12
countries can be convinced, they need to be
01:03:15
offered some kind of alternative with That
01:03:18
is, this is a signal for public
01:03:19
discussion, that is, it needs to be launched
01:03:21
so that everyone understands the complexity That is,
01:03:23
if because look if it’s
01:03:24
strategic there, how is it friendship without
01:03:27
borders As they called
01:03:34
Chinese-Russian Well okay Well yes I
01:03:36
see And if there is a chance So it
01:03:38
needs to be spoken out, as it seems to me, yes,
01:03:40
that is, I think that there is a chance, as if
01:03:42
I don’t see Until everything is lost Well,
01:03:44
completely, plus there are, again, a lot of
01:03:48
contradictions on which can be played
01:03:49
between Russia and Iran Russia and North
01:03:51
Korea North Korea and China China
01:03:53
Russia We know this even We know this, we
01:03:55
are working on it there about China
01:03:57
Siberia, more precisely this Far East, that’s
01:04:01
the question I’m just saying this It’s a
01:04:04
question of political will at one
01:04:05
time, the states managed to win
01:04:07
China over to their side against the Soviet
01:04:09
Union In the seventy-first year Uh-huh Well, somehow
01:04:11
they managed to do something where these
01:04:13
were also ideological opponents, also
01:04:15
communists Mauz Dong Well, how
01:04:18
were they also there axis Well also evil in some way
01:04:21
to some extent Well they didn’t mind they were with
01:04:23
Kissinger They went and decided something
01:04:27
and how Well it paid off well against them And
01:04:30
how did they do it they
01:04:32
took advantage of the fact that
01:04:33
tension had grown between the Soviet Union and China they
01:04:36
quarreled and they, as it were, immediately
01:04:42
injected the
01:04:44
People's Republic of China into the UN and
01:04:47
gave the right to Veta to the UN Security Council. That is, they included
01:04:49
it in their security architecture And
01:04:52
thereby they gave China
01:04:56
guarantees plus recognized its status and for
01:04:58
this how if only China had opened
01:05:01
the markets, that is, it’s clear there Now
01:05:03
no one is demanding that North Korea be given the
01:05:06
right to veto the owls without the UN, but
01:05:09
some things, I think, somewhere on
01:05:11
which negotiations can be held along some lines,
01:05:13
especially such the negotiations were
01:05:14
not unprecedented. That is, the
01:05:16
States had examples of flexibility when they
01:05:19
showed them of political pragmatism.
01:05:21
Maybe now everything is more complicated because,
01:05:24
well, the opinion between
01:05:26
Democrats and Republicans is very polarized, that is, a
01:05:27
very polarized discussion and greater
01:05:29
transparency, less, as it were, less
01:05:32
is impossible. We need to throw in more resources
01:05:33
in order to communicate with this, you need to somehow,
01:05:35
yes, and well, plus polarization. It
01:05:38
really influences because, well, you
01:05:39
see. That is, there are 180° turns Every
01:05:42
time during administrations and Well, yes, there are, yes, there are some
01:05:45
difficulties, plus, of course, the fact
01:05:48
that now, well, in Iran, at
01:05:51
least now, the people in power are
01:05:52
also quite complex, that is,
01:05:54
it’s difficult with them, they are
01:05:57
mostly conservatives, well, in short, it’s more difficult with them
01:06:00
than with the moderate reformers who
01:06:03
were before under Hassan Rouhani, that is,
01:06:05
in this regard, the states could again
01:06:07
either wait until they come to power
01:06:09
or somehow, well, I don’t know, make it
01:06:11
so that they come to power. Because it
01:06:14
was much easier for them to negotiate with the
01:06:16
moderates. Because they are just
01:06:18
supporters. Well, the development of relations with the
01:06:20
West is how they They think that
01:06:22
the West is largely to blame, but in principle
01:06:24
we need to live with them more, but now
01:06:27
the conservatives are in power, of course, this also
01:06:29
affects the fact that there are difficult people there, you seem to be like
01:06:32
this Yes, I remain
01:06:36
a supporter of the fact that, well, the states can
01:06:39
negotiate with Moreover, having such
01:06:42
influence, especially in the world
01:06:44
financial economic institutions, they
01:06:46
can negotiate with countries with
01:06:48
China, but they negotiate. Well, we
01:06:50
see that there were meetings. They have now
01:06:52
put their acute phase of
01:06:54
competition into this, I call it the phase of
01:06:57
cold détente, yeah, with since last
01:07:00
year when Biden met with United
01:07:02
Pin, somehow everything has calmed down for them, both
01:07:04
on Taiwan and on many other
01:07:07
issues. Well, that is, there are opportunities
01:07:09
to discuss something correctly, but I think
01:07:11
that both with the Iranians and with North Korea there is
01:07:14
North Korea is now frozen
01:07:15
Negotiations due to the fact that the
01:07:16
Biden Administration is passive in this
01:07:19
matter I don’t know For what reason
01:07:22
negotiations have been going on with Iran all this time even
01:07:24
now Yes, negotiations are already underway in the North Army of this story
01:07:28
through intermediaries, but that’s why they are going on
01:07:30
Well, plus elections maybe the elections are
01:07:34
also interfering with 100% interference before the elections, yes,
01:07:37
making a deal with Iran is such a
01:07:38
question Well, yes Well, something like this Therefore,
01:07:41
yes, I agree with the thesis of this article, I will
01:07:44
formulate it differently, but yes, I
01:07:46
think that this is more of a situational
01:07:48
partnership despair, not despair, but
01:07:50
because of the narrowness of the corridor of
01:07:52
possibilities 100% Well, that is, the
01:07:54
way out is to expand this corridor, be that as
01:07:56
it may, and its expansion without
01:07:58
discussion is impossible by and large,
01:08:00
especially in the current conditions Ponya And
01:08:03
let’s have this one too Let's answer the question How
01:08:05
likely is it that economic pressure and the
01:08:07
collapse of China's economy will prompt them to start a
01:08:10
war in order to keep hundreds of
01:08:12
millions of unemployed people from revolting?
01:08:14
Who knows? Perhaps if there is a direct
01:08:17
collapse, probably they can, of course, uh Well, they
01:08:22
probably can, but I'm not sure what
01:08:24
will happen in the near future the collapse of the Chinese
01:08:26
economy is a real collapse, such that they
01:08:28
will be forced to go to
01:08:29
war, I don’t know. It seems to you that no one can
01:08:33
answer this question exactly, what
01:08:37
could it be, but it will depend,
01:08:39
firstly,
01:08:41
on Well, the scale of the collapse depends
01:08:46
on the attitude towards the idea in general like this kind of
01:08:49
war among the leaders of China, people
01:08:53
make a decision and not a robot that is
01:08:55
scripted there to collapse, and we start
01:08:57
a war there and a button is pressed, that is,
01:08:59
specific people make a decision there,
01:09:01
they may not make a decision at all.
01:09:03
Well, that is, I think it’s like this for now
01:09:06
yes, these are conditions of complete
01:09:08
non-obviousness, that is, So far there is no
01:09:10
such
01:09:13
obvious Chinese economy plus,
01:09:16
as I understand it, well, whatever it is, the
01:09:18
Chinese economy is still part of the
01:09:21
larger world economy, if there is a
01:09:23
collapse of the Chinese economy, it will be uh I
01:09:27
think that’s where we are then
01:09:30
turbulence is scary Let’s say after
01:09:33
our
01:09:37
war it’s also difficult Well, okay, so
01:09:40
Dmitry Komarov wrote, not the
01:09:42
powerful diplomacy in Russia, I mean the
01:09:44
special services and there is something to offer there,
01:09:46
even a turkey would cope with such data, their
01:09:49
diplomacy is powerful, the special services too,
01:09:52
but they have
01:09:54
diplomacy diplomacy plus special services
01:09:56
are like one thing Well, that is, this is
01:09:58
the special services one not sometimes one sometimes not
01:10:00
not theirs not I mean, look, if you
01:10:02
also take a diplomatic
01:10:04
school there, there is a school of regionalist specialists
01:10:07
there, Arabiston, it is stronger than ours, I
01:10:10
can confidently see the difference, yes that
01:10:13
is, it’s like, unfortunately, this is the case, for this
01:10:16
reason we also need to
01:10:17
prepare and build our own diplomatic school. Diplomats as
01:10:20
negotiators, their functionality
01:10:22
may be small, but they play, that’s why
01:10:24
everything needs to be done only for the special services,
01:10:26
this is also primitivism,
01:10:28
so inside it’s clear that Russian
01:10:31
diplomacy has no people who do
01:10:34
not interact in any way with the
01:10:37
intelligence service. We remember that when
01:10:39
all sorts of diplomatic and security service
01:10:41
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01:10:43
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01:10:44
as it were, a rule. Well, because
01:10:46
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01:10:47
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01:10:49
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01:10:51
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⚡️Подписывайтесь на ALPHA MEDIA telegram: https://t.me/alphamediaua 2:32 История термина “Золотой миллиард”. Где возник этот термин? На Западе термина не существует. 14:46 Россия вывела использование термина “Золотой миллиард” на новый уровень. Россия использует термин как ресентимент. 22:20 Откуда появилась конспирологическая теория “Золотой миллиард”? 28:26 Упоминание телеграммы Кеннана. 30:23 Примеры применения термина в риторике российских политических деятелей. Почему “Золотой миллиард”? 35:28 Сейчас главная задача российского руководства навязать “Золотой миллиард” на мировом уровне. 40:35 По логике в России тоже есть “Золотой миллиард”. 45:46 Что вызывает войны: перенаселение, экономический бум или политические интересы? 50:53 Трамп для Китая опасен? Стратегические визии Байдена и Трампа относительно Китая. 53:43 Китай старается подмять российскую экономику под себя, чтобы Россия была зависима от них при любом президенте. 55:11 Союз России, КНДР, Китая и Ирана — это союз отчаяния? 59:14 Союз России, КНДР, Китая и Ирана можно разломать, если Запад станет более гибким. 1:02:35 Что для Запада дает понимание того, что союз России, КНДР, Китая и Ирана — это союз отчаяния? Есть ли что-то о чем можно договариваться с этими странами? 1:09:40 У России мощная дипломатия и дипломатическая школа. Украине нужно выстраивать свою дипломатическую школу тоже. Анализ ключевых событий мировой политики. В этом выпуске: - Что за теория "золотого миллиарда"? - Действительно ли миром управляет "золотой миллиард"? - Глобальный нарратив РФ в противостоянии с Западом - Суть раскола Запада и не-Запада Приєднуйтесь до нашої соцмережі "Альфа", все тільки починається 😉 Якщо у вас айфон: https://apps.apple.com/ua/app/alpha-net/id6446601153?l=uk Якщо у вас андроід: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=club.alphamedia Подпишись: 🔹 Николай Фельдман 👉 https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser 🔹 Николай Фельдман 👉 https://t.me/feldman_nick 🔹 Илия Куса 👉 https://t.me/AssadStash 🔹 Алина Гриценко 👉 https://t.me/dragon_ryuu 💥 Вы можете поддержать канал, став его спонсором: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfPM3SfE-9MvIPujzTgCJHA/join 💥 Реквизиты для поддержки проекта: Patreon ➜ https://www.patreon.com/ALPHAMEDIA559 ☕️buymeacoffee ➜ https://buymeacoffee.com/alphamediaua Bitcoin ➜ bc1qrtm8kcq7gph3fha6t5fkk99gkrn4nknx9g09wz ETH (сеть ETH) ➜ 0x28E66803Df33a46405cC9EA89B58Fa41b9724a56 👕 НАШ МЕРЧ. Магазин "Alpha-Media-Shop": Сайт - https://alpha-media.shop/ / Телеграм - https://t.me/alpha_media_ua (только по вопросам работы магазина) ⚡️ Онлайн-трансляция 24/7: https://www.youtube.com/live/Nt8TJRkiUuI ⚡️ Подпишитесь на канал и нажмите на колокольчик, чтобы получать оповещения о новых трансляциях!

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