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viewers Today our guest is my
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favorite historian, writer, member of the
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central council of the party A Just
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Russia for the Truth, whose books help
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to understand the intricacies of world
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geopolitics Nikolai Viktorovich Starikov
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Nikolai Viktorovich Hello,
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as they say He who does not know the past is
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not worthy of the future Therefore,
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today let’s sum up the results of the outgoing year and
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look into the loom of
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HIV. What events of
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2023 in geopolitics do you consider
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significant? Well, I think that really the
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main event of 2023 is the
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failed attempt of the West to inflict a
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military defeat on Russia, that same counter-offensive,
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but in fact the offensive of the Armed
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Forces Ukraine I think that this is the event
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that is already leaving a sulfur imprint
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on international
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politics in the year twenty-four
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based on this event. The
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power lines of the entire geopolitical situation will continue to line up.
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I think that this is
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really number one, everything
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else is either more current or
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so shallow something Well, for example, the struggle
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between Republicans and Democrats in the
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USA, it was there and will be and
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one or the other wins in this
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sense, nothing so significant
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happens there, so it’s important for us too
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But here is
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just a situation that often occurs in history
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when something happens in
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Russia is key to the future
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fate of the whole world Uh-huh And what do you think?
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Could the West make an
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attempt to freeze the conflict in
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Ukraine next year since the West obviously tried
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to use Ukraine as its
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battering ram against Russia, but they
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have stalled this matter and therefore if
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the conflict will be frozen, then
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NATO, for example, is deploying
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its military infrastructure specifically on the
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territory of Ukraine, and for now the West
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is arranging conflicts for us in other places
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to distract us. Will the West go to this
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next year? What do you think? Well,
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first, I would like to record this fact
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we are dealing with with probably
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the most serious rival that
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anyone has ever had in the entire history of
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mankind, this rival, on the one
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hand, is a collective mind, but on the
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other hand, the mind is very evil, very
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specific
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and ready for any crimes of
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war, anything to achieve
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its goals. Here, let's do this let
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's fix the fact And then imagine a
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chess game Well, you know, usually
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they show one intelligent-looking person sitting in the
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place of another intelligent-looking
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me Well, we look there Sergei Koryakin
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Well, the intellectual is a nice person Yes, you
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need to understand that the grandmaster
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who is sitting on the other side and
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can also look very strange - to
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embitter such a person during a chess game go
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into hand-to-hand combat or try to hit
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us on the head with the board break all
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conceivable rules pull a piece from the board
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do whatever you want This is the
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second fact We must also
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take into account now we move on to
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your question based on understanding
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who we are dealing with, can the West
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try to freeze the conflict, maybe
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if it sees that it has no
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chance of victory, of course, and these
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attempts to prepare a freeze, they have already
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been visible Well, what is it worth at least It would seem
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such a
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trifle to nominate the president
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for the figure Man of the Year in the magazine This is
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not just a magazine This is not just a nomination
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that is there, well, I don’t know, the boys and
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girls in this magazine make
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certain advances, I will remind you that in
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1938 the man of the year on the cover of
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this magazine was Adolf Hitler
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because in thirty dem he should have
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start a war, well, it didn’t start a little the way
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those who brought Hitler to
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power wanted, but nevertheless, that is, this is some kind of
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international apotheosis. If you
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want international recognition, that is, here
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he is, the Great
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Greatest, but something needs to be done for this. Let’s
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remember last year on the cover of
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Time magazine there was Zelensky, why was he
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in the twenty-second year because in the
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twenty-third year
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the same offensive of the Ukrainian
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army was supposed to begin, which was associated with
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Zelensky, he was formally led and for
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which he was given money to arm
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American advisers, Polish soldiers,
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and so on and so forth similar That is, these
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were such drum beats before
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the opening of the scenes in this terrible
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performance. And now
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imagine the offensive fails and it comes to someone’s
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mind in this magazine,
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at least among various figures,
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but to suggest a president, there was a
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president of Ukraine whom the West
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supported A let's
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put the President of Russia on the cover next year
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This is an invitation to some kind of
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diplomatic dance This is an advance,
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this is a proposal In this way, well It
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would seem frivolous, in
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fact, it is extremely serious What the
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President answered Here is his Direct line The
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President
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of Sovereignty Tom
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Sure begins to defend that without him there is nothing
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cannot be in the state. I think that you
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and I will absolutely agree with this
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thesis. And then the president answers the
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question when peace is possible and he says
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peace is possible when we achieve our
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goals, we are Russia. That is, he rejects
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this very diplomatic dance. This is this
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proposal, this this the trap is that it is
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possible to
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somehow restore the
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trust and
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relations of cougars destroyed by the West, first the cover then
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then then everyone starts shaking hands and
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inviting people to the G20 where they weren’t invited. Well, that
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is, they offered mirrors and beads
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again and the
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president rejected all this, only
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conversations are possible after achieving
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Victory after achieving the goals, therefore,
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when you say the West will try, the West is
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already trying to arrange this very
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freeze, Russia’s answer is no, there
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will be no freeze And I honestly say I was
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very pleased with such a clear and
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transparent position of our president
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because from all the information that we
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received in the third year I probably the
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greatest concern was caused by the
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constant conversations that
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some kind of negotiations were possible. This was what caused the
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greatest concern in the
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fact that
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the point was set for me, but the West will
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again draw an ellipsis, he will again
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propose, again try to do something
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because this is a minister who has
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a goal but no no principles as soon as
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they lose on the battlefield Let's
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negotiate, don't want to negotiate
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Let's try again on the battlefield,
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you can't relax, I'm sure that they
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will constantly be preparing some
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unpleasant surprises for
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our attacks at the front, perhaps an attempt at
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some kind of counter-offensive by the Armed Forces, anything
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can happen we just have to understand
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who we’re dealing with, not give in to the desire to
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reduce tensions at the expense of our own
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interests, and do what we have to do.
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Now let’s go a little lower to the
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Southern Territories. What do you think, what
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happened this year with
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Nagorno-Karabakh is really a
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situation Is the Armed Forces a thing of the past in history?
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That’s all,
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or will there be some kind of continuation, especially
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considering that the President of Azerbaijan,
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for some reason unknown to us,
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is announcing early
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elections? Well, probably, if there had not been
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a situation in Ukraine, we could have
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said that the unfolding of events
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around Nagorno-Karabakh is one
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of the most important events of the outgoing
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year, what happened there there is
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still no understanding of the end of
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this process because in politics
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very often the end of the process goes
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somewhere beyond the horizon, but then the peaceful
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settlement of the
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Karabakh issue that happened,
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it happened due to the interests of one
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side, it was not a compromise, it was the
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surrender of the positions of one Rhone to another, approximately
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the scale is different, but for example it
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looked like
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Perestroika and new thinking with an emphasis
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on which Gorbachev constantly advertised;
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simply Gorbachev, as
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the leader of the Soviet Union, took all the
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interests of all
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allies, the whole meaning of the Soviet Union is
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simply refused it Well, and passed it off
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as a Great Diplomatic
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Victory, and here one side in this
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case is definitely Armenia and Karabakh
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Azer, to state for sure around this, the
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dances of the West immediately began, attempts to pull Armenia away
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from Russia sharply intensified and
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increased, and this happens in this
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form which, again, It would seem, well,
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slightly innocent, but there is no smell of innocence there.
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Armenia and Western states
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are making a statement What is buying weapons
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in France is the question If Armenia is a member of the
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CSTO military bloc Why buy weapons in France
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what is uh refusal to supply Russian
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weapons is military standards is
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some kind of tradition Well, let's
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remember again, Turkey, a NATO country
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is buying several Russian S-300
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EE air defense systems. So, what a Cry begins
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in NATO, the point is not that Turkey
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will have some other system, but the point is
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that Turkey begins rapprochement with
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Russia by purchasing these same S-300s,
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this is unacceptable against Turkey,
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certain military
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political sanctions are immediately introduced there, they are trying to
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persuade it to refuse to buy these
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weapons, and this is done by the Americans,
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who Well, it would seem, well, what
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will happen there, Turkey won’t make any difference You are
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so powerful, strong and great No, it’s a
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matter of principle, it’s a matter of a trend, it’s a matter of the
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direction of communication between countries,
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so when the Armenian leadership does not
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deny but also does not confirm the purchase of
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weapons from France, this is a very alarming
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bell. Please note that the European Union,
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for the sake of this, is the
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Ottawa of Armenia from Russia he decided to
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worsen relations with Azerbaijan and the
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President of Azerbaijan
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simply did not even come to one of the events in Europe,
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and now Azerbaijan officially declares
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that Europe is taking a friendly
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position for the sake of friendship with Armenia, so
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diplomacy is always such a tangle of
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interests in decisions, but we see that for the sake
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of in order to try to destroy the Udkb
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to destroy the friendship between Russia and Armenia,
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which in fact is primarily
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important for Armenia but is also significant for Russia,
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the West is ready to temporarily quarrel
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with Azerbaijan because it believes
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that relations with Azerbaijan will
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simply be maintained through Turkey,
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which is also in one or the other to a different
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extent Well, a member of the Western Alliance, albeit
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such a special one, this is what we see,
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this is what we see, and of course, the action of the
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Armenian leadership causes us
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serious concern. Uh-huh. What do you
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think about the history in the Middle East? The
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Israeli-Palestinian Conflict is a
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protracted conflict or will it soon
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will be resolved
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somehow Well, look, it’s very good that
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you asked this question after the question about
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relations between Armenia and Azerbaijan about
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Karabakh. It would seem that the problem
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that was inside the Soviet Union is
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insignificant and not significant and the historical
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problem that existed but within the framework of the
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Soviet Union has gone
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somewhere into the past suddenly appeared against the
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backdrop of the destruction of the Soviet Union and even
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largely
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served as the reason for the destruction of the USSR because
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the situation in Azerbaijan in Karabakh then
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pogroms arose under the living and
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functioning Soviet government and
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leadership of the Soviet Union and suddenly this
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problem that could not be solved for 30 years
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decided Well, how it was decided You and I have
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already discussed the matter here, not
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in Well, as they say, not in some
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training manual, and here there is an Arab-Israeli
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conflict that has been going on for eight decades and
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which has not been resolved, so the conclusion from this
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suggests itself for the next long-term
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conflict Even if it it seems
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maybe Ren if both sides are ready to
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resolve the second issue
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as by surrendering the position of one side
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by finding a compromise, and here
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we see, unfortunately, a sad trend
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since the positions of the Arabs and Israelis Well, in
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this case, the Palestinians and Israelis
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under Iqa Rabi and the
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head of the agreement were concluded
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Nobel Prizes were received, that is, the
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Peace Process began and, in fact, the path to the
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restoration or creation of a
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Palestinian state began. What was discussed
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back in the late forties. And at
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this moment, forces that are not
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interested in calming the world on the
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one hand are killing with the hands of some kind of
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gender Isaac Arabina and on the other hand,
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Yasser Arafat is dying and this is open
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information, his widow did not agree with the
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conclusions of the Doctors about the causes of Death, after
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a while she even insisted on
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certain procedures, she had a
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brush from her deceased husband and traces of polonium were found on it,
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that is, at the moment
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we have every reason to believe that on the
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one hand, Itza Rabin, as a leader of
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peace on the Israeli side, was killed, and on the
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other hand, I Arafat, as a
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leader of peace on the Palestinian side, was poisoned,
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this means that someone was very much
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interested in ensuring that there was no peace
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these were not Palestinians and not Israelis
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because the simultaneous death of two
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politicians in different
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states who are connected by
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peace initiatives tells us
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that there is a third external force that is
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regulated by
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Rabin’s example for Israeli politicians
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indicates a World Cup as soon as you
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begin to negotiate with the Palestinians you
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will be killed, this is understood by any
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sane Israeli politician, on the other
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hand, an example for the Palestinians if you
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start these initiatives. Well,
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perhaps your fate will be too much.
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Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have
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brought the conflict artificially to a
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completely different point, and for the sake of this, everything
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happened the most interesting thing is that in
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today's situation, no one can
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answer what will happen next, but perhaps
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such a situation has not yet been present in this region,
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that is, when they ask the
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ASKh leaders what will happen
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and
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they ask the Israelis what will happen, well, the
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answers are extremely vague, we will defeat
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Hamas, well, well, somehow it will defeat or
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declare that you defeated it. And that there
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will be some kind of buffer zone on the territory of the Gaza Strip,
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that is,
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imagine today how before the Hamas attack on
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Israel the whole story looked like there is a
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strong powerful fence with all the technical
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innovations with automatic machine guns
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where machine gunners sit remotely and
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those watching there and anyone, this is a
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buffer zone, it stands on the border of
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Israel and Israel, as it were, there are already some
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civilians of Israel or military
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settlements or barracks located there,
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kilometer 2 3 5 10 15, the city of Sderot
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is located there That is, if you retinue even
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further that is, to the territory of the
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Gaza Strip Well, how much, well, for 2 km 5 10 what
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will change you will have not one fence but
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two fences, that is, the very conversation about the fact
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that we will create a buffer zone does
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not solve the problem at all because you are
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leaving this buffer zone Gaza Strip
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Israel I mean, you built it and
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it worked. So there was no fly in the air
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in the literal sense of the word, and
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suddenly one fine day all this
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turned out that the
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Israeli military for some reason did not
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believe the other Israeli military
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just because they were women, what
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if you are so untrusting, why are you calling them into the
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army then
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even calling up a damn thing? This
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means that Israel does not explain what
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will happen next, there is some kind of big
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question mark. I believe that the situation is not
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clear, some kind of large-scale that
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is the goal of this today’s
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escalation. But tell us, when we always
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talk about the Middle East, we always
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talk about the topic there: Israel
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Palestine, the United States of America, who
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might benefit from this, who might be a
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screenwriter and director there? And you don’t
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consider the religious background here; the
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religious background is very important;
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attention is definitely just let’s
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understand on what level, we must take this
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factor into account, maybe for everyone,
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maybe for several. Well, look,
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let's take an example. Well, I don’t know the
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Third
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Reich, a SS soldier who fought
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somewhere on the Eastern Front,
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brought up as a man
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-hater,
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he had an ideology. Well, of course, and a
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terrible ideology then she was tried at the
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Nuremberg trials, can we say
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that all the German Soldiers, how many of them
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I know, there were 6-10 million who
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were on all fronts were
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completely inveterate by the
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Nazis Well, no, someone was taken away, someone
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was drafted into the army and there
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someone tried to survive - then he committed war
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crimes, what is called with
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pleasure, someone guarded
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the concentration,
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in fact, in this process the
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entire German People were not tried, but the SS was tried
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as an organization of specific figures, and
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whoever deserved it either went to prison or
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was hanged, and we also had
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trials where Nazi
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criminals And I emphasize the Germans,
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they hung not only what kind of Vlasovites
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the Germans were,
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the news we see the ideology was present at the
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Lower level, we move further to the level of,
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say,
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the generals, there were absolutely inveterate
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Nazis as the first
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commander of the Sixth
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Army Reichenau was
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simply the most cruel person, but he
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died quickly For natural reasons and further
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Here is
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Paulus took over the leadership of this
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military structure were those who were hanged
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at the Jurassic trial because they
00:21:25
gave orders to shoot without
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trial Russian Jews
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Communist Commissars Which went beyond the scope of any
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morality that is inherent in the military, that is, in
00:21:35
appearance like a German military man but in
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fact an absolutely criminal and Nazi the
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next level we rise even higher
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Hitler did he have an ideology Well, it
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seems to me the answer to this question is
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positive Of course he was one of the
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main ideologists of the creation of Nazism as an
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ideology wrote a
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book gave inhumane orders And
00:22:01
now the next level And those who
00:22:03
helped Hitler come to power with them
00:22:05
there was an ideology. I don’t mean
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some German industrialists who
00:22:10
started giving money to Hitler in
00:22:12
1932, when it became clear to them that this
00:22:13
strange
00:22:15
man would soon lead Germany and they had to be
00:22:18
friends with him, otherwise it would be bad. I
00:22:21
mean those who are foreign politicians.
00:22:24
carried out the Dawes Plan, the Young Plan,
00:22:27
these are American
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politicians who stopped collecting
00:22:30
reparations from Germany and, on the contrary, began
00:22:32
to invest money in German
00:22:33
industry, what kind of ideology
00:22:35
did they have, well, it’s unlikely they probably had an
00:22:37
ideology, a misanthrope, a
00:22:53
political
00:22:55
tool for them is not an ideology, but a
00:22:58
policy, but even now the most important one
00:23:01
the question is those Who led the American
00:23:05
politicians those who Well, roughly speaking, the
00:23:08
owners of the world's money they did it
00:23:11
Why do they have as much money as they want? They
00:23:13
drew it out of thin air. They need power over the
00:23:15
whole world, why, in order to
00:23:18
fulfill certain ideological
00:23:21
postulates, these postulates can be
00:23:23
they? are religious, it may be
00:23:28
difficult to say, but we see now that
00:23:29
Western society is driven by absolutely
00:23:33
irrational motives, that is, the motive of
00:23:36
making money no longer
00:23:38
works there, so imposing
00:23:41
sexual perversions on all these genders is for
00:23:43
money. Well, maybe for a clinic
00:23:45
where children are mutilated. That’s earning money for her
00:23:48
money Well, for the President of
00:23:50
the United States or the Chancellor of Germany, why is this,
00:23:53
but he understands that in today's
00:23:55
Western political system this
00:23:58
is a system for recognizing
00:24:00
someone else. If you do not agree with these
00:24:03
postulates, you can call them
00:24:05
ideological, then you have no
00:24:08
political prospects, you will not be allowed into
00:24:10
the political system of any Western
00:24:13
state, the same thing is present
00:24:15
in the Middle East. Moreover, this is the
00:24:18
point where all world
00:24:20
religions intersect, here we can, so to speak,
00:24:25
remember the features of Judaism and the historical fate of the Jews, here we can
00:24:27
talk about the fact that for Muslims this is an
00:24:29
important place, we can talk the fact that
00:24:31
this is a sacred place for Christians is the most
00:24:33
important
00:24:35
point from all points of view, so when
00:24:38
we evaluate these processes, of course we need
00:24:41
to add something Well, rather not
00:24:43
religious But I would say metaphysical
00:24:45
This will be more important because
00:24:48
sometimes the actions of Western politicians
00:24:51
like They don’t fit into the framework of some ideology of
00:24:52
some religion. But on the
00:24:56
other hand, we see that this is a downright
00:24:58
anti-Christian
00:25:06
doctrine, what can you say about this,
00:25:09
what is your opinion? Well, you
00:25:12
mean the Russian doctrine.
00:25:14
Well, there was a lot of talk about the use of nuclear
00:25:18
weapons and Honestly speaking,
00:25:20
I think they are Well, probably
00:25:24
wrong here in my opinion, the
00:25:26
correct position is the following
00:25:28
Russian nuclear doctrine, it gives a comprehensive
00:25:31
answer to all questions, that’s why it
00:25:32
was written, we can use nuclear
00:25:35
weapons in the event of nuclear weapons being used against us
00:25:37
and in the event of a threat to
00:25:40
Russian statehood. Well like this
00:25:42
If we summarize its main
00:25:45
postulates briefly This is how it will
00:25:47
sound Well, that’s all the conversation is about the fact that
00:25:51
Murov’s constant topic of nuclear weapons
00:25:53
against the backdrop of a special military operation Well, it
00:25:56
even seems to me somehow like disrespect
00:25:58
for our army, we think that
00:26:00
without nuclear weapons, we cannot solve
00:26:01
our problems. Well, of course we can. Please
00:26:04
note that now the conversations about
00:26:06
weapons have somehow died down a little
00:26:09
because the West would really like
00:26:12
to create some kind of provocation, including a
00:26:14
nuclear one of this kind, in order to
00:26:17
portray Russia as some kind of outcast
00:26:19
who allegedly used or did
00:26:22
something to solve his problems and
00:26:27
here are the conversations of some of our
00:26:29
experts. It seems to me that they have poured grist into the
00:26:33
mill of the opposite side. Therefore,
00:26:36
I propose here to simply record the
00:26:39
fact that the war with NATO will certainly
00:26:42
end in a nuclear war so that NATO
00:26:44
understands that we We will definitely use
00:26:47
nuclear weapons if they are used
00:26:49
against us. Still, we will achieve the remaining issues of a
00:26:52
special military operation
00:26:54
through the use of conventional
00:26:56
weapons, conventional weapons. Well, in
00:27:00
this direction, in fact, we will
00:27:02
continue to move. Yeah, what do you expect from the
00:27:06
coming year, where maybe
00:27:12
henna flared up again, but first turn, I
00:27:15
would like to see the
00:27:16
end of the special military
00:27:18
operation, if here I quote
00:27:22
the president, the set goals will be achieved, here is
00:27:24
peace at any cost,
00:27:28
at the cost of abandoning the goals for which the
00:27:30
special military
00:27:31
operation began, this is not peace. A
00:27:35
truce therefore we should not agree to such a peace
00:27:40
because we will simply pass
00:27:42
the baton solving
00:27:45
certain issues by armed means for our children and
00:27:47
grandchildren and for the West. This would be a huge
00:27:49
gift, so here,
00:27:56
in essence, the Civil within the Russian
00:27:59
people will be feasted and eliminated.
00:28:02
Moreover, you need to understand that after the victorious
00:28:04
end of a special military operation,
00:28:06
Russia is really strengthening.
00:28:08
Please note that at first the West
00:28:11
He said a lot that Russia
00:28:13
showed its weakness there, and so
00:28:15
on and so forth, simply because
00:28:18
the deadlines that they themselves, I
00:28:20
mean, the Westerners wrote in their own
00:28:22
newspapers for solving our problems, from their
00:28:26
point of view, we did not achieve and did not set
00:28:28
such a task. Well, I think that we can
00:28:31
now say with enough confidence
00:28:33
that Russia, when initially starting a
00:28:36
special military operation, was preparing,
00:28:38
well, not for a short-term large-scale combat
00:28:42
activity, but for a certain
00:28:45
special operation that
00:28:47
would quickly solve a number of problems because
00:28:50
that side would show some kind of
00:28:53
prudence Well, pay attention, the
00:28:56
negotiation process began there and
00:28:58
this is what was going on, and the West
00:29:01
essentially forbade negotiations in
00:29:03
Istanbul and beyond. Everything developed as
00:29:05
you and I know, it developed, this does not
00:29:08
indicate the weakness of Russia. This indicates
00:29:10
that Russia did not want to fight, just like that
00:29:14
this is a key moment and now when the army is
00:29:18
drawn into hostilities When
00:29:20
the people are drawn into hostilities what do I mean
00:29:23
by this
00:29:26
term some kind of routine we still
00:29:28
treat it Well, the heart bleeds As
00:29:31
they say Yes this is this this is
00:29:33
important but it seems to me Everyone already understands
00:29:37
what we are dealing with and that it is necessary to
00:29:41
end this victoriously by solving all the
00:29:44
problems, dismantling the regime that is there,
00:29:46
depriving it of the right to have
00:29:50
Armed Forces, taking certain
00:29:53
territories that are historically
00:29:56
Russian territories, well, here is
00:29:59
the question of a political settlement
00:30:00
after the victory, it is so politically
00:30:03
complex and Please note that the
00:30:06
Russian leadership does not reveal the map here, that is, there
00:30:09
are certain such contours, but
00:30:12
at the moment we cannot say that this is how this is how this is how,
00:30:14
because the
00:30:17
Russian leadership did not pose the question like that, so
00:30:20
after the end of
00:30:24
its victorious war, Russia will strengthen not only
00:30:26
territorially, not only morally, but
00:30:31
here’s the question: Where will the
00:30:35
whole thing go? I’ll tell you where the whole thing will be
00:30:38
dismantled. Like today’s military
00:30:39
instrument, but specific people, specific
00:30:43
officers, mid- and even
00:30:45
senior-level commanders who have not committed
00:30:47
a crime, they will have a great
00:30:50
opportunity to continue serving in the
00:30:52
Russian army, it is clear that there are
00:30:54
certain filtration measures
00:30:56
are all clear But this will be exactly so
00:30:59
because today hundreds of thousands of men
00:31:02
are called up by the armed forces of Ukraine, hundreds of
00:31:05
thousands of them will return to their peaceful
00:31:07
activities, but professional military men
00:31:10
Well, someone who has somehow merged with NATO there
00:31:14
has grown together incredibly or has committed a
00:31:15
crime will run away to the west, as usual,
00:31:17
they will be sheltered somewhere in Canada, but I am
00:31:20
sure that tens of thousands of Ukrainian
00:31:21
soldiers will serve in our units, this was the
00:31:25
case during the Civil War, then the
00:31:28
whites and reds served in the same army,
00:31:30
this is not surprising, in
00:31:34
fact, today we see a unit from
00:31:37
In the Chechen Republic, if you rewind
00:31:39
there 25 or 30 years ago, some of them with
00:31:44
our military
00:31:46
colleagues today were on opposite sides of the Barricades,
00:31:49
then there was an amnesty, then there was a Peaceful
00:31:51
Settlement And now they are
00:31:54
fighting well together against the enemies of Russia, it
00:31:57
will be exactly the same here, therefore the thesis my
00:31:59
kind We will also
00:32:01
strengthen it with the military potential that the
00:32:04
West transferred to Ukraine; it will not only be
00:32:07
destroyed, it will also become part of our
00:32:10
military potential and in the military sense,
00:32:13
so to speak, a specific tank, not that
00:32:16
they will all be melted down later, but also
00:32:18
specific combat experience and a specific
00:32:20
soldier who will finally -they’ll tell you how
00:32:23
it all started, where it grew from, and he’s
00:32:27
sure he’ll
00:32:29
have certain feelings and emotions for
00:32:32
those who dragged him specifically, his homeland,
00:32:36
his city, his region, into this terrible
00:32:39
fratricidal one, because
00:32:42
Ukrainian soldiers still have to find out this in
00:32:44
full.
00:32:46
Uh-huh Tell me there is a certain person
00:32:50
whose name is zhali, he wrote a book, a
00:32:53
short history of the future, in short, that
00:32:58
2024, even 2025, will still be the milestone
00:33:03
when the world will change quite a lot,
00:33:06
move from one form to another, is this in
00:33:09
your opinion, Utopia, or are
00:33:12
events really developing in such a way that some things are happening?
00:33:15
quite radical changes in the world,
00:33:18
well, first of all, the answer to the question Who is
00:33:22
Jacques Atali Jacques Atali is the Talking
00:33:25
Head of the Globalists
00:33:27
This is not just some weird
00:33:29
guy. No, this is one of those who is
00:33:32
really a thinker and who voices
00:33:36
theses that are important, useful, and necessary for the
00:33:40
owners of world money. he
00:33:42
really voices the transition of the world to
00:33:44
some new quality, but here the most
00:33:47
important question is: what kind? After all, when
00:33:50
Hitler’s ideologists spoke about
00:33:52
the construction of some kind of New World and a
00:33:53
new order, Noni clearly meant the
00:33:56
end of 1946 in Europe when Germany
00:34:00
was divided into parts the Nazi party
00:34:02
is banned, that is, both are
00:34:04
some kind of new order for Europe Well, for the world there is an
00:34:07
order, but it is completely different,
00:34:10
so you need to listen carefully
00:34:12
to what people like Jacques
00:34:14
Atali say, but understand that changes can
00:34:17
be in any
00:34:19
direction. I would like just
00:34:21
one more, one of Jacques’s forecasts,
00:34:24
and to remind you that it is very relevant in
00:34:28
my opinion, he said that around the
00:34:31
period that is, that
00:34:32
is, in the mid-s, the
00:34:36
Western state and the political
00:34:39
system will be greatly
00:34:41
compromised, first of all, we were talking
00:34:43
about the political system of the United
00:34:46
States of America can Perhaps he meant
00:34:49
that of
00:34:50
all the candidates for the post of President of the
00:34:52
United States of America, the one most
00:34:56
unsuitable
00:34:57
in terms of physical age and condition will be chosen.
00:35:01
Perhaps we will see this in the near future.
00:35:04
But there is no need to treat forecasts and
00:35:07
books of such talking heads of
00:35:08
globalists as inevitability, remember
00:35:12
one more the speaking head of the globalists,
00:35:16
Gade's employee Francis Fukuyama, told us about the end of
00:35:19
history that in his sense he even
00:35:23
wrote a book meant the Victory of liberalism in the
00:35:26
whole world, I
00:35:27
think he wrote this book in the early nineties
00:35:30
Well, how many 30 years have passed Well,
00:35:33
what do you want to ask Tari
00:35:37
Fukuyama defeated liberalism throughout the world
00:35:41
No, the Americans themselves say Well, it’s
00:35:43
them, of course, as always, they label
00:35:47
dictatorial regimes all over the world.
00:35:49
Wait, you told us 30 years ago,
00:35:51
democracy, Iran, win
00:35:55
where do you get dictatorial regimes, so
00:35:59
all their forecasts, all their scenarios can
00:36:01
be
00:36:02
rewritten and this is one of the ways
00:36:05
to change the scenario of the globalists. You
00:36:08
just mentioned that something
00:36:10
could go wrong in the United States of America.
00:36:11
Now it’s quite
00:36:14
relevant to talk about whether suddenly the
00:36:16
United States of America will cease
00:36:18
to be a superpower. Let them even in the
00:36:19
long term become an ordinary
00:36:22
state. But maybe to take their place,
00:36:27
for example, China. Does it have enough
00:36:29
strength because we see that Britain by
00:36:31
2025 is clearly preparing all sorts of
00:36:35
Chinese machinations in military terms? Well, you
00:36:39
mean that Great Britain said that by
00:36:40
the year twenty-fifth it will send a
00:36:43
large number to the Pacific Asian region
00:36:46
connection of your navy
00:36:48
Yes, this is exactly what I read on your
00:36:50
Telegram channel yesterday Yes, attention that
00:36:53
apparently the Chinese comrades Strictly on
00:36:55
schedule,
00:36:57
in the opinion of the Anglo-Saxons, should create
00:36:59
problems for them That is, not earlier than two years ago,
00:37:01
here is the
00:37:03
Armed Forces, which of course is nonsense, but
00:37:07
look when we speak that the United States
00:37:09
will cease to be a superpower, it
00:37:11
seems to me that some of our
00:37:13
Hotheads understand this in some kind of
00:37:15
grotesque sense. They understand that
00:37:18
Gorbachev came to the United States, who instead is an
00:37:25
American dejection. Yes, and the states take away
00:37:28
their sovereignty, scatter and
00:37:32
some kind of big mess begins there because what do they
00:37:35
define Who has what borders Who
00:37:37
owes what to whom that is, plunges into the abyss of
00:37:40
civil war Well, this will not happen in the
00:37:44
United States of America a long time ago,
00:37:48
this problem of a state secession from the
00:37:51
United States of America has already
00:37:54
been solved, I will remind you that this
00:37:56
says a lot Dear Anatoly
00:37:58
Vaserman, the translation is important in Russian, we
00:38:01
say the United States of America. But
00:38:04
in fact, we must say the United
00:38:05
States of America because there Stace
00:38:08
is a state. That is, this
00:38:10
state united in a
00:38:12
sense, just as in the Soviet Union the
00:38:13
Republics, which are
00:38:16
separate states, also united. one of
00:38:19
the amendments prohibits secession from the
00:38:21
United States of America, this is
00:38:24
constitutionally impossible to do. That
00:38:26
is, you can raise a rebellion as the
00:38:29
Confederates once did, who, being
00:38:32
American politicians included in the
00:38:35
American system by American
00:38:36
generals like General Lee Yes, simply
00:38:39
gathered legally elected bodies
00:38:43
in their States and declared that they were separating
00:38:45
from the
00:38:47
North American United
00:38:50
States and making another state, a
00:38:53
confederate state of America, that’s
00:38:56
what happened next, the Civil War began,
00:38:59
but American politicians drew
00:39:02
conclusions from this, so it’s prohibited by law.
00:39:05
But at the moment when the
00:39:07
southerners did this, there was no such ban It’s
00:39:10
just that the Federal Center, as we would
00:39:12
say, responded by sending troops and, strictly
00:39:15
speaking, forcefully suppressing
00:39:17
this from its point of view. For
00:39:26
example,
00:39:27
Europe, which
00:39:30
suddenly, by bringing
00:39:34
some independent politicians to power,
00:39:36
announces the withdrawal of American troops from
00:39:38
the territory. But this is all hanging on within a hair's
00:39:41
breadth, Germany gives
00:39:43
permission for Americans to be on
00:39:45
its territory. They are there with the permission of
00:39:47
Germany, of course, Poland gives it too, and so
00:39:50
on and so forth. Now
00:39:52
imagine that in Germany a miracle
00:39:55
happened, another government came to power
00:39:57
and it says 2 months for
00:40:00
you to leave If you can’t
00:40:03
kill or buy all these politicians,
00:40:05
you’ll have to leave in 2 months because otherwise
00:40:07
it will look like an occupation. And
00:40:10
that’s a completely different story.
00:40:20
superpower status when they
00:40:22
cease to be the one who puts pressure on everyone and everything,
00:40:26
and not that they
00:40:29
have turned into, well, I don’t know, into a banana
00:40:31
Republic and into a civil war zone,
00:40:34
so when you say that China
00:40:37
can replace them, this means that
00:40:38
again they are simply in a race of some kind - then horses
00:40:41
instead of one the other will be in first
00:40:44
place no they will go neck and neck and it’s
00:40:47
not a fact that there will be two of them here we are also the
00:40:50
third horse here the euro may
00:40:55
appear there is no one then much
00:40:57
more than two appear then that’s the point
00:41:01
but for the USA this is the way already well as they say
00:41:05
down, imagine Well, I don’t
00:41:08
know, a football club or a hockey club
00:41:11
that always took first place,
00:41:13
well, for example, the Russian national team, the
00:41:15
Canadian national team Yes, any place except the
00:41:18
first is such a celebration with tears in the
00:41:22
eyes, yes And if the third place Well,
00:41:25
prize money Well, there they will be just cry
00:41:28
in the literal sense of the word Yes, it’s as if they do
00:41:30
n’t need these bronze medals at all, and
00:41:33
so the Americans don’t need it either,
00:41:35
because then processes begin to reduce
00:41:38
opportunities in the economy in the military sphere of
00:41:40
abandoning the dollar and this snowball
00:41:44
begins begins to begins to
00:41:46
grow and the United States begins to weaken
00:41:49
therefore, for them the task is to prevent the
00:41:51
growth of the second and third forces to remain the
00:41:53
only ones; they are not interested in
00:41:56
competition for first place; they are
00:41:58
interested in unconditional, indisputable
00:42:01
first place by a large margin and forever.
00:42:03
This is their political concept. Uh-huh. Well,
00:42:08
naturally, I can’t help but ask you. That’s what
00:42:09
we do after all. interview for the union
00:42:12
meeting, what did the Union of Russia and Belarus manage to achieve this year
00:42:16
and what
00:42:18
else would you like to see from the activities of the
00:42:22
union state in
00:42:25
the future? Well, here you always need
00:42:29
to express yourself correctly in relation to enemies,
00:42:32
simply because we are well-mannered people. Yes,
00:42:34
we should not speak what language -it’s
00:42:37
indecent in relation to friends, you have to be
00:42:39
even more careful just so as not to offend them
00:42:41
or offend them or something else that makes
00:42:45
me happy is that the integration process is
00:42:49
all the time
00:42:50
Wuxi was wobbling
00:42:55
about
00:42:56
that periodically arose before then
00:42:59
some kind of dairy problems or
00:43:01
Belarusian shrimps No welcomed
00:43:03
to the Russian market Well, that is, there was something all the time,
00:43:05
but now I don’t hear it, probably there are
00:43:08
some rough edges, like
00:43:10
in any complex process. But there
00:43:13
are clearly fewer of them. Further, Russian nuclear weapons
00:43:17
were stationed this year on the
00:43:19
territory of Belarus. But this is serious. this is an
00:43:22
indicator of a serious step in the level of
00:43:24
integration, yes,
00:43:26
this is really good and
00:43:28
correct, I would like
00:43:31
for our integration to move even
00:43:35
further, so that we have a single currency,
00:43:39
so that we have a single financial center,
00:43:41
well, here we have, of course, big questions for the
00:43:43
Central Bank of Russia, but we hope
00:43:45
that sooner or later they will still be
00:43:48
resolved, that is, this is where
00:43:51
our integration will be even greater. And of course, the
00:43:55
Union State of Russia Belarus is an
00:43:58
excellent tool where I
00:44:02
will allow myself to
00:44:04
speculate a little, it would be possible to
00:44:06
add what remains under the
00:44:10
name
00:44:12
Ukraine Well, why not,
00:44:15
actually, and maybe not, because once
00:44:20
again the final political
00:44:23
settlement is somehow not indicated. Well, I
00:44:26
can also
00:44:29
throw out a few more theses in your first question.
00:44:31
What is demilitarization when
00:44:34
Germany after the First World War
00:44:37
does not have the right to have an army, it has the right
00:44:40
to have Well, it’s almost like a people’s militia,
00:44:42
yes they have machine guns, rifles, tanks, no
00:44:45
artillery, no navy, no
00:44:48
aviation is prohibited, there are only
00:44:51
ground units and the number is described. Well,
00:44:54
according to the Treaty of Versailles there were 100,000
00:44:57
and Ukraine does not have the right to have armed
00:45:01
forces, after the end there is a police force,
00:45:04
maybe there is no army at all. Ukraine
00:45:07
declares that it does
00:45:09
not need an army anymore because Russia
00:45:14
guarantees, which
00:45:16
means certain aspects of Ukrainian
00:45:19
[music]
00:45:24
statehood.
00:45:26
Well, actually, the Presidential Decree is
00:45:29
valid obtain Russian
00:45:32
citizenship please serve in the
00:45:34
Russian army with Russian
00:45:36
citizenship, in order to
00:45:38
guarantee the implementation by the new
00:45:40
political regime of the political power of
00:45:43
Ukraine of this agreement,
00:45:45
Russian military bases must be placed on the territory of Ukraine,
00:45:48
how many, where and how, we don’t
00:45:52
know But this is mandatory Let’s
00:45:55
see United States to
00:45:57
guarantee the loyalty of Japan to Germany to
00:46:00
Italy and so on They stationed troops there
00:46:02
in 1945, well, here
00:46:05
we understand a certain analogy Yes, there was a military operation,
00:46:07
after all,
00:46:08
and they are in no hurry to leave, they do not pay
00:46:12
attention to the fact that there are already 25 generations of
00:46:15
politicians who call themselves
00:46:16
democrats and they swear their love to the
00:46:18
United States of America for some reason they are not leaving
00:46:22
American because they are in ri
00:46:28
loyalty and to a certain extent
00:46:30
controllability But here are certain
00:46:32
points we already Yes then there is
00:46:34
denazification what is it people
00:46:37
who were in Nazi parties
00:46:39
who will be recognized by the court as Nazis
00:46:41
They have no right serve in the security
00:46:43
forces do not have the right to work there in the
00:46:46
education system If they have committed
00:46:49
a crime they are judged by the
00:46:52
irat of
00:46:54
all
00:46:57
filtration this also happened after the Second
00:46:59
World War in relation to the Germans, therefore
00:47:01
here
00:47:03
Well, there is nothing new in this sense either,
00:47:06
well, here are some theses already it’s
00:47:09
as if you and I have been drawn, and if in
00:47:14
this situation the Ukrainian state
00:47:17
is ready to join the union
00:47:19
state and the union state
00:47:21
is ready for integration, then here,
00:47:26
strictly speaking, the zone of possible
00:47:28
political decisions begins. It seems to me that in the
00:47:31
future Ukrainian state in which
00:47:33
every citizen of this state can
00:47:35
receive Russian passport the
00:47:37
integration process will somehow go very quickly And
00:47:40
after a while there will be a
00:47:42
minimum number of those who will
00:47:44
only have a Ukrainian passport there will be a
00:47:46
maximum number of those who will have
00:47:48
two here I hear concerns that are often
00:47:51
expressed But how can it be that they
00:47:53
will vote anyway Then there are
00:47:56
a lot of forms that we can borrow from
00:47:57
our Anglo-Saxon comrades,
00:48:00
for example, Puerto Rica
00:48:02
is a territory of the
00:48:04
United States, people have American passports,
00:48:07
currency units are the dollar, but Puerto Ricans
00:48:10
do not vote in the presidential elections of the
00:48:12
United States of America and no one
00:48:14
says that this is just horror, horror,
00:48:17
that’s why here certain restrictions can also be introduced. It’s
00:48:20
clear,
00:48:22
for obvious reasons, for example, all
00:48:24
citizens
00:48:26
who received Russian citizenship from
00:48:27
such and such a date for 10 years do not
00:48:30
participate in the presidential elections
00:48:33
in Russia,
00:48:35
well, here we don’t have to be afraid
00:48:38
to protect our state from
00:48:40
certain moments that we consider,
00:48:43
so to speak dangerous, but this is just a
00:48:46
proposal, maybe there is no need to introduce
00:48:48
such restrictions, we will see that,
00:48:50
in fact, the information
00:48:52
field has immediately changed the obs for people,
00:48:56
such fears are already
00:48:58
unnecessary Question As they say in the
00:49:01
afterword, in the outgoing year 2023
00:49:05
was the anniversary of the death of Joseph
00:49:09
Stalin, 70 years since he died you in one of
00:49:13
their interviews just on Komsomolskaya
00:49:15
Pravda they said that if this man
00:49:18
had been alive, the world would be
00:49:24
different now
00:49:26
if Stalin had remained alive then, that’s the
00:49:37
saddest thing in all the
00:49:40
historical forecasts that are given
00:49:42
Back in time in that what should always be
00:49:45
said if if if if in
00:49:49
any
00:49:50
case or later
00:49:54
from let me remind you that in the forty-ninth year
00:49:57
his
00:49:58
seventieth birthday was solemnly celebrated and in the fifty-third
00:50:00
year there is every reason to believe that
00:50:02
Stalin was poisoned but what can we
00:50:05
say would have changed here even
00:50:09
more likely it is not important the role of Stalin himself as a
00:50:12
person
00:50:14
as a certain course and view of what
00:50:17
needs to be done And what cannot be done, that is, there have
00:50:20
been changes in the political
00:50:22
economic semantic course of Stalin,
00:50:25
well, let’s
00:50:26
take the simplest Stalin’s
00:50:29
famous annual price reduction, I
00:50:33
’ll remind you that in 1947 That is,
00:50:36
practically there
00:50:37
through this how once it was in December of the forty-
00:50:40
seventh year. That is, 2 years
00:50:42
after the war, a monetary reform took place in the Soviet Union.
00:50:44
Well, we won’t
00:50:48
talk about the details now. Look, the reform was
00:50:51
very interesting and correct; it was
00:50:53
carried out at the same time as the
00:50:56
monetary reform; cards were abolished, that
00:50:59
is once again, 2 years after the
00:51:01
end of the war in the Soviet Union,
00:51:02
they canceled all cards. Go buy
00:51:04
as much as you want, whatever you want. Well, it’s clear
00:51:08
if you have money, and even since the forty-
00:51:12
eighth year. From the next year, an
00:51:15
annual decrease in prices began; it happened
00:51:18
either on March 1 or April 1 or On March 15,
00:51:22
that is, in December forty-seven,
00:51:24
a reform took place and on March 1, forty-eighth there
00:51:27
was already a reduction in prices for the working people of the Soviet
00:51:30
Union, they showed Yes, the reform
00:51:32
took something from someone there But it
00:51:35
had to be done, but listen, the economy
00:51:38
is developing and everyone lives better every year This is
00:51:42
it it’s clear Yes, if your salary is
00:51:45
unchanged And not all goods But many
00:51:49
are becoming cheaper, which means you live better
00:51:51
because there are no more restrictions on purchasing You
00:51:53
can buy what you want and you know
00:51:55
that next year you will live even
00:51:58
better Well, what if you are a leader in
00:52:01
production, an innovator or something else?
00:52:04
some famous combine operator So
00:52:06
your salary will increase So you
00:52:08
will, that is, you understand the mood
00:52:10
of a person, you won a terrible war,
00:52:13
restored everything and then Everything is better better
00:52:16
better And what’s in the West And what’s in the West We
00:52:19
understand perfectly well because we
00:52:20
live in this world today In the Western economy, the rise in prices is
00:52:24
constant, it can be smaller, it can be
00:52:26
larger, it can be non-existent. Yes, the
00:52:30
word is inflation, but it is constant and
00:52:32
inevitable, and here all the time a
00:52:35
competition begins between the growth of wages of a
00:52:37
particular person and in society as a whole
00:52:40
and the
00:52:41
price level, someone may live annually
00:52:44
better than him salaries, his income grows,
00:52:46
prices also grow, but less But this is,
00:52:50
unfortunately, such a rare story, and in the
00:52:53
forty-eighth forty-ninth PM PM and VM,
00:52:58
prices were reduced, and
00:53:01
the question arises: If the Soviet Union could reduce prices for 5 years in a row.
00:53:04
It was somehow
00:53:06
economically justified Well, it’s probably
00:53:09
true that it wasn’t just that Fir sat and
00:53:12
wrote Let’s say that Doctor’s sausage
00:53:14
has fallen in price The city loaf has fallen in price I do
00:53:17
n’t know about Khvanchkara’s wine I love
00:53:20
Let’s have it too, well, that’s not the same way it was
00:53:21
done
00:53:22
Yes, there would be some kind of procedure there would be a
00:53:25
ministry, department, and so on.
00:53:29
next is the most interesting n year Stalin
00:53:31
dies in March on April 1, the planned price reduction still
00:53:36
happens, a pre-
00:53:38
planned reduction in prices simply
00:53:41
because they decided not to cancel it, otherwise it would have been
00:53:44
very noticeable that Stalin
00:53:46
was buried and after 2 weeks there is no reduction
00:53:51
there is
00:53:54
hell
00:53:56
and here is the question that we are now dealing with
00:53:59
discussed with you This is a constant
00:54:01
decline in the goal, it was caused by
00:54:04
the capabilities of the Soviet economy. If
00:54:06
so, where did the capabilities of the Soviet
00:54:09
economy go after Stalin died, they were
00:54:12
gone, if there was no possibility of the
00:54:16
Soviet economy, then why did all this
00:54:19
happen and no economic
00:54:21
cataclysms occurred at the same time
00:54:24
? after all, it turns out six
00:54:26
more expensive
00:54:27
there was no answer to this question, so
00:54:30
the world would be different, there would be further
00:54:33
reductions in cost, rationalization
00:54:35
proposals would be in the Soviet Union, the people
00:54:38
would get used to it even more, well, there was p-6,
00:54:41
but can you imagine there were
00:54:43
26 and there may already be a new leader
00:54:47
of the Soviet Union, even if he were
00:54:48
completely opposed to this, he
00:54:50
simply would not have risked canceling
00:54:53
all this this time because it was impossible to explain to people
00:54:55
that is, Stalin was everything, he
00:54:57
came You didn’t do anything, this is
00:54:59
how further friendship with China Soviet
00:55:03
Union plus China Russia plus China
00:55:05
today, but we see how powerful it is, how
00:55:07
important it is. Only then we were number
00:55:11
one in the economy in the sense that the
00:55:14
country was headed by a man who was
00:55:17
immensely respected throughout the world and who
00:55:20
helped China gain independence.
00:55:22
Add to this the vast territory of
00:55:24
China, a very large country. Well, I sing with us
00:55:27
it is of course smaller
00:55:28
and human resources at the time of the
00:55:31
Mau Victory in 1940 there were 500 million people living in China,
00:55:35
that is, the Soviet Union there was 200 million
00:55:39
Yes there are 180 plus China is a huge
00:55:42
huge force the world would have been different
00:55:47
but something happened
00:55:51
that m
00:55:56
from me Once again I remind our viewers that
00:55:58
today I had a favorite historian in my studio, a
00:56:02
writer whose books help
00:56:05
to understand not only past
00:56:08
events, but also those that are happening
00:56:10
now and even will happen in the future,
00:56:13
thank you so much Goodbye Nikolai
00:56:15
Viktorovich I will allow one last phrase
00:56:18
since you said that the answers are
00:56:21
honest,
00:56:23
as an honest person, I must say
00:56:26
that I’m still not a
00:56:28
historian, I understand after all, I’m not a historian, although in
00:56:32
my books we also talk about
00:56:34
history, politics and economics. Well,
00:56:36
now we have complete honesty,
00:56:38
thank you, thank you Thank you very much
00:56:41
Goodbye Goodbye

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