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Dmitry Taran, lately I haven’t been00:00:04
commenting much on political events, only00:00:06
occasionally in very important and significant00:00:08
moments, but it seemed to me that the latest00:00:12
event was connected with a squabble between field00:00:14
commanders, in particular Strelkova00:00:16
Prigogine, Khodakovsky’s speeches,00:00:19
Bezler intervened in this conflict, this is a00:00:22
squabble between field commanders and which has been00:00:25
in the media field for quite a long time and00:00:28
which I am in the public field. Well,00:00:31
they evaluate each other during the war, it00:00:36
seemed to me that this moment was extremely00:00:38
important and I decided to00:00:40
consult, ask questions to00:00:43
Vladimir Gromov,00:00:45
such a reference point in the information00:00:48
field is a person who is not biased00:00:50
towards himself doesn’t attract a lot of attention, but00:00:52
at the same time his assessments are always fundamentally00:00:54
different from the mainstream ones from00:00:57
what the military correspondents say from what is00:00:58
said in the field, and I decided to ask00:01:02
Gromov a question about this situation and about another00:01:06
geopolitical situation, but more on that00:01:09
later. So let’s go, I wrote a letter00:01:13
Gromov and he sent me answers to my00:01:16
questions question00:01:23
question in social networks and the media the00:01:26
topic of the conflict between Prigozhin and Strelkov is gaining momentum, and00:01:28
without giving an00:01:30
impartial assessment of Strelkov, Strelkov joined in00:01:33
on the Dolgo channel and a number of military correspondents also00:01:35
picked up this topic. Is it possible to give an00:01:38
adequate assessment of these conflicts00:01:41
with mutual insults between the00:01:43
commanders of the Russian spring Vladimir00:01:46
Gromov Dmitry Thank you for the question, you will00:01:49
always find something to hook on this topic, I would00:01:51
n’t want to talk about it, especially since I would like to give00:01:54
an assessment, I understand this, that is, we are now00:01:57
actually fitting into the information00:01:59
field in this conflict and Gromov says00:02:02
that he didn’t want to if you delve into it to the essence of the00:02:04
skirmishes, then it is necessary to begin to analyze it.00:02:07
Not the attacks of the commanders00:02:09
against each other, but from the conditions in which they00:02:12
were. As a participant in the events of the spring and00:02:14
summer of 14, I had a very specific00:02:17
task with a certain range of00:02:19
capabilities and powers; the media00:02:21
component that accompanies some00:02:24
actions is not entirely corresponded to the00:02:26
task being performed, for the most part it00:02:28
was a smoke screen. As a person00:02:31
who made films about the Lugansk events of00:02:33
14, I interpret this in such a00:02:35
way that the media component did not00:02:38
reveal, but rather masked all the00:02:41
processes that took place in Lugansk00:02:43
in the SBU building. Yes, there was an administration in the building00:02:46
and, in general, then here were00:02:49
all the signs of an information war in00:02:51
which00:02:52
decision makers were forced to00:02:56
play in a very narrow corridor of00:02:58
possibilities, as I understand Gromov is talking about this, the00:03:03
discrediting program that was00:03:05
included in my activities on00:03:07
Gromov’s activities well hid the00:03:09
real task that was being carried out, I’ll00:03:12
tell you that Until today of the day Even in00:03:14
Lugansk itself, few people even understand00:03:15
who Gromov is. What tasks he solved and,00:03:18
in fact, what he achieved,00:03:21
I am sure that his real goals and objectives00:03:24
and the conditions in which00:03:26
the commanders were and are may not have been00:03:28
voiced until now. That is, if you00:03:30
decipher this sentence then I would00:03:33
say that the field commanders who00:03:36
participate in a public skirmish00:03:39
and, to some extent, create a00:03:42
certain smokescreen and a00:03:44
diversionary maneuver I hope I didn’t00:03:47
say anything unnecessary also I know these00:03:50
people and commanders of their actions about which00:03:52
they have been silent for almost 9 years now the essence of the00:03:55
skirmishes between the current defendants00:03:57
lies in offensive conclusions in terms of the00:04:00
incompetence of some and the increased00:04:03
heroism of others, but this is a common story:00:04:05
someone does the job, someone takes the00:04:07
laurels, as usual, this is a technique for00:04:10
influencing the wriggle on emotional00:04:12
intelligence. It works well, if00:04:13
anyone wants to catch one of the00:04:16
key themes in conflicts is the movement00:04:18
and possession of so-called material00:04:21
assets and this factor is thrown into00:04:23
the conflict because ordinary people and00:04:25
armchair experts are always interested in this topic00:04:27
and it is always discussed about who00:04:30
had more of what00:04:31
and who stole more from whom00:04:34
now about the need for these showdowns00:04:37
During this period, I would like to00:04:39
think that this is part of the00:04:41
information-psychological war in00:04:43
which we are all located, we00:04:45
have all been since the start of a00:04:47
special military operation, the forced00:04:50
presence of these persons on social networks is00:04:52
also some specific factor00:04:55
illuminating this or that state of affairs and00:04:58
events. I think that in this case00:05:01
there is a00:05:02
factor, firstly, of personal charisma, personal00:05:06
vanity and media hunger, those same00:05:08
copper pipes when field commanders00:05:10
who certainly exist and so what to do,00:05:12
they focus on the political00:05:15
perspective and in fact are simply simply00:05:18
promoting themselves, that is, gaining points in order00:05:20
to attract certain resources,00:05:23
attract certain clan00:05:25
groupings in order to strengthen themselves for a00:05:27
possible political career, I interpret00:05:31
this proposal in exactly this way,00:05:36
and this whole topic with showdowns among themselves00:05:39
may be the forerunner of some00:05:40
grandiose, poorly hidden trick with the00:05:43
goal of showing the enemy all the systemic00:05:46
and moral and psychological00:05:48
contradictions in the camp of the opposite00:05:50
side to the enemy00:05:52
I think that in this case we are00:05:55
dealing with a00:05:57
controlled scandal that00:06:00
reminds me of the scandal between Zaluzhny and00:06:02
Zelensky Yes This is a specially created00:06:05
information special operation that00:06:07
shows the conflict between the00:06:08
commander-in-chief and the00:06:10
military leader Yes a force00:06:13
operation and This is a signal for the00:06:15
opposite side to00:06:17
get the impression that it’s as if00:06:19
we’re standing up to the enemy in a way that’s not as good as it should be and that’s not as00:06:21
good as this is an essential element of00:06:24
psychological information warfare, and in00:06:27
this case we’re most likely seeing a00:06:28
mirror reflection of the same kind of nimble, the00:06:31
same kind of incompetent who00:06:34
nevertheless are all equally has00:06:36
some real personal00:06:38
psychological foundations, naturally00:06:40
tied to PR and tied to the00:06:43
political prospects of all the00:06:45
mentioned persons00:06:50
from the point of view of male ethics, they write thunder.00:06:53
I consider it unacceptable to sort things out00:06:55
in the public field and social networks by showing00:06:57
what the Russian world is in reality. Although00:07:00
sometimes depending on the intensity of the situation00:07:02
to achieve the goal and such means are00:07:04
good, they are suitable while the average person00:07:07
is studying the essence of the conflict in the public field00:07:09
in the shadows and completely unexpected processes are happening behind the scenes00:07:12
in this regard, I will00:07:16
now digress a little and show a00:07:19
quote from Alexander Prokhanov,00:07:22
who also fit into the conflict between00:07:25
commanders on our part, the prokhan00:07:28
wrote a text that is, as it were,00:07:30
conciliatory, yes He took it and wrote it. Well,00:07:34
as always, pathetically, very pathetic and00:07:36
in some places even, it seems to me, overly00:07:39
sweet, but nevertheless, in00:07:41
its main symbols, Russian history00:07:42
is now written in the new Russian alphabet, where the00:07:45
ABCs are in the form replenished visit00:07:47
Khodakovsky is a military man, exactly00:07:49
Fearless with the face and eyes of a Russian00:07:51
knight, beard and fiery Soldiers, he does not00:07:53
sit in the Duma chair, he leads his00:07:55
Battalions into a pitch-black battle, how00:07:57
tragic and powerful Alexander Dugin is, his00:08:00
mystical sermons, how magnificently00:08:02
unique Kurginyan, a brilliant connoisseur of00:08:04
technology, the creators of Russian political science00:08:06
XXI centuries flower-bearing Vladyka Tikhon00:08:09
Shevkunov with thundering bells00:08:11
Pskov Pechersk Monastery incomparably00:08:14
unbending Nikita Mikhalkov Russian00:08:16
besogon clutching a broom00:08:18
collected from twigs in Russian birch on the00:08:20
shore of the Russian history of00:08:22
miracles on Chicherin Nightingale Horussian00:08:24
Victory that adores in the trenches of Donbass00:08:26
Ramzan Kadyrov who sent his sons to00:08:28
war himself is powerful son of the mother of Russia00:08:30
Evgeniy Prigozhin Fearless, fiery, who00:08:32
took over the Kuznetsk hammer from the hands of the Mukha worker,00:08:34
crushes the fortified00:08:37
area of the solid with this formidable sledgehammer Zakhar00:08:39
Prilepin, who trampled his shoes on the stones00:08:41
of Donbass amid the hubbub and wobbly bloggers,00:08:43
creates his innermost Donbass Novel00:08:46
Well, as for me, the syllable is overly pretentious, but00:08:49
in fact this is an attempt at reconciliation00:08:51
commanders who in the public field00:08:54
probably say a little more than necessary And00:08:57
now this information00:09:00
smokescreen is taking on some00:09:02
shape Well, some kind of clan battle, that’s what00:09:08
Prokhanov wrote,00:09:12
I continued asking questions to00:09:15
Vladimir Gromov and touched on the figure of00:09:19
Alexander Khodokovsky, the question00:09:24
was voiced in his Telegram channel by Alexander Khodakovsky that the00:09:27
supply situation in his zone has noticeably00:09:29
worsened compared to the beginning of his00:09:31
and further direct speech. That’s why everything is so00:09:34
difficult with cities and towns, especially00:09:36
in the current situation when we are hooked on a00:09:38
diet, don’t expect miracles from us guys, don’t00:09:41
shake the air with frivolous00:09:43
statements, in fact, Khodokovsky00:09:45
is announcing the upcoming failures in the00:09:47
Spring Company, I asked this question,00:09:49
I actually understood that this was possibly00:09:52
a signal directed not to our audience, to the00:09:55
audience on the other side, Gromov answers00:10:00
Khodakovsky, experienced commanders, such00:10:02
statements with the aim of lowering morale00:10:04
may be part of the information00:10:05
war, addressed primarily to the00:10:07
enemy as for itself situation,00:10:09
then the task of his unit may be00:10:12
local in nature and the issue of supply00:10:15
may be explained by these circumstances,00:10:17
that is, his unit may00:10:20
not be assigned the task of, for example,00:10:22
some kind of strategic breakthrough or00:10:24
holding some territory Yes, and00:10:27
accordingly resources, the calculation of the strength of00:10:29
means can be made taking into account00:10:30
this circumstance00:10:33
In addition, any maximalist commander00:10:36
always wants to have more in reserve and there00:10:38
is always dissatisfaction with00:10:40
the actions of00:10:41
the system. I want to say that from an ethical point of view I also do not00:10:46
share00:10:47
these cries in the00:10:50
public field that there are not enough cartridges And00:10:53
even if, taking into account the fact that this misconception is00:10:56
turned towards the enemy and00:10:59
which can at some point00:11:00
relax him or somehow00:11:02
divert the focus of attention there to other00:11:05
moments, however, from the point of view of00:11:09
this public Yes, clarification of the relations of00:11:12
field commanders who seem to have00:11:14
nothing better to do than write complaints in a telegram00:11:18
or claims or accusations or00:11:22
Well, some messages that show00:11:26
weakness, for example00:11:28
[music]00:11:30
this seems to me personally, my opinion00:11:33
is commenting solely on my own.00:11:35
Because I do not have the instructions and restrictions00:11:39
that Gromov has,00:11:41
I am a blogger,00:11:43
as if a little from the outside, but I I think00:11:47
that in this game, even if it’s a game, it’s00:11:50
better not to overdo it,00:11:55
if we summarize the block related to the00:11:59
conflict of field commanders, then I want to00:12:02
highlight two or three theses, the first thesis,00:12:08
and perhaps this is an element of00:12:11
information and psychological warfare00:12:12
that certainly00:12:14
masks the action of the event00:12:18
and00:12:20
the processes that are taking place within our00:12:24
power structures, on the other hand, this00:12:27
conflict, which is now being brought to the00:12:29
surface, is probably based on00:12:31
some clan or some group00:12:34
to the core and this spills over into the00:12:37
public field because every single00:12:40
participant has political perspectives00:12:43
and this reflects the kind of visible00:12:47
chaos that is currently happening around the00:12:49
world. When, in general, everyone is fighting00:12:53
with everyone because SW and this is in fact a00:12:58
conflict that is a substitute for a00:13:01
world war that is being waged on the topic of00:13:05
redividing the world, redrawing zones of influence and00:13:08
reorganizing currency zones and in fact, it’s00:13:12
not a war with Ukraine, in fact, it’s a war00:13:15
with NATO, a war with the West, and00:13:19
here now comes a moment where00:13:22
all the mistakes in information policy, all the00:13:25
non-agreements, all the uncertainties are00:13:27
now coming to the surface, and00:13:29
since this game is political,00:13:33
now all these shoals may come to light,00:13:35
but look Yes, at first00:13:37
our main goal was dynasty,00:13:40
picking up the denazification of the sowing Europe00:13:44
accused Russia of genocide of the people00:13:46
because among our politicians there were a lot of00:13:48
remarks regarding the fact that00:13:50
Ukraine should not exist, Ukrainians00:13:52
jumped up that Ukraine, Ukrainians are people00:13:55
who are not capable of governing00:13:57
the state And there are more Ukrainians not00:13:59
to be, and using these remarks which,00:14:02
in principle, can be00:14:04
perceived as a pass to the00:14:08
West in the game against Russia,00:14:13
State Duma Speaker Volodin immediately made00:14:16
a statement that there is no talk of any genocide,00:14:18
this is help to the fraternal00:14:21
people, we are generally one people from00:14:24
Western systemic and00:14:27
armed occupation including occupation00:14:29
by the West and denocification as an00:14:33
act of action absolutely does not00:14:36
contradict the fact that we are liberating00:14:38
our compatriots from Western00:14:41
occupiers if we unpack all00:14:43
the messages in more detail and this is the00:14:46
moment that now everyone is catching up with00:14:50
everyone and this has signs and00:14:53
information provocations has signs of00:14:55
disguises of disinformation sabotage, but00:14:58
nevertheless there are signs that00:15:00
the world is really coming into an00:15:03
unstable phase00:15:06
made me answer Vladimir Gromov a00:15:09
question related to Iran and Israel00:15:13
now a question on a different topic I am writing to00:15:15
Vladimir Gromov about the situation between00:15:17
Israel and Iran what happens during a00:15:21
reset of the world order and00:15:23
system its provision is the expected00:15:26
phenomenon of the emergence of new centers of00:15:28
tension quite naturally,00:15:32
Gromov cunningly wrapped up Yes, and in fact, Well, when a00:15:35
direct question is asked, then the transition to the00:15:37
third logical level is a reboot of the00:15:39
world according to the world order, the support system is00:15:41
actually Avoiding the answer Well,00:15:44
between us, In addition, many planners00:15:47
and actors of the Ukrainian crisis are really00:15:49
tired and the shift in the world information00:15:52
agenda is quite natural, that is, it00:15:54
unpacks the thesis, we can say that the00:15:57
attack00:16:00
on factories in Iran is intended to shift the00:16:03
focus of the world media from the Ukrainian theater of00:16:06
military operations to other theaters and this is a00:16:11
good, impressive thought that00:16:14
makes you think, that is, in this00:16:17
case we are talking about global politics,00:16:19
that is, we are talking about what is happening00:16:22
on the world stage with Well, at the remote control from00:16:25
which countries and peoples are controlled.00:16:28
This always happens when one00:16:30
protracted information agenda is replaced by another; this is how it00:16:32
was with covid-19; now the topic from00:16:34
its own can change The topic of00:16:36
the conflict in the Middle East is to understand the00:16:39
scenario planning of the conflict between00:16:41
Israel and Iran, the strengthening of00:16:43
Turkey’s position and the build-up of Armenia. It is possible a00:16:46
little later, taking into account the fact that not all00:16:48
processes have been fully developed and the role of00:16:50
certain actors has not yet been illuminated and I would not00:16:53
like to prematurely announce00:16:55
and anticipate certain events00:16:58
strengthening of Turkey's position the buildup of Armenia,00:17:01
I will remind you that Armenia supported the00:17:02
PACE resolution which concerned the creation of a00:17:06
tribunal for the leadership of Russia on the00:17:09
events in Ukraine, this was in connection with the00:17:12
statement of the genocide of the Ukrainian people,00:17:15
which in fact was completely made up.00:17:19
But on the other hand,00:17:21
statements of individual00:17:23
politicians who, well, actually00:17:25
opposed the Ukrainian as a nation00:17:29
as these same identities as00:17:32
It is clear that it needs to be sorted out,00:17:34
but nevertheless, these statements were00:17:37
used and so Armenia now Yes,00:17:39
it announced its withdrawal from the CSTO and support for00:17:42
Europe in some such00:17:44
manifestations And this is actually what it00:17:47
means to shake up Armenia. Armenia borders00:17:49
on Turkey, and if you shake up Armenia and00:17:53
create a protracted conflict, and there is a zone of00:17:56
protracted conflicts here, Turkey can00:17:58
be pulled apart, and Turkey is a00:18:00
specific country, a00:18:02
NATO member that has00:18:04
good neighborly relations with us. And as we00:18:06
understand, Turkey is very strong influences00:18:08
approximately the entry of Sweden and Finland into00:18:12
NATO, see What a start Yes, and00:18:15
it turns out that00:18:17
the events that can now occur00:18:20
And in general, this global combination00:18:23
Gromov does not want to anticipate it and00:18:26
comment on the announcement,00:18:30
he writes, but I can indicate The key00:18:33
question is now the hot phase is beginning -00:18:35
who will end up those who monitor00:18:37
compliance with the rules of the game and guarantee00:18:39
Security in the conditions of the new world00:18:42
order and who will have the right00:18:43
to ensure the stability of the new world00:18:46
economy, its logistics and financial00:18:48
systems are now facing a fight00:18:51
for precisely this right Well, at the third logical00:18:55
level, in general, Yes, the thesis is voluminous, it00:18:57
can be discussed, it can be interpreted but00:18:59
in fact, I believe that the thunder has avoided00:19:01
answering by identifying key reference points00:19:04
in part of Turkey in part of Iran in part of00:19:07
Israel in part of Armenia. I00:19:09
extrapolated to Sweden, Finland,00:19:12
Turkey00:19:14
and all these events that are now00:19:16
happening. They show the intensity of the increase in00:19:19
tension before February and March.00:19:23
which, as I understand it,00:19:25
Vladimir Gromov is pointing out that the hot00:19:28
phase is beginning, you and I, to quote Gromov00:19:31
Yes, we are on the eve of some poorly00:19:34
hidden00:19:37
shooter,00:19:39
summing up this00:19:42
online dialogue And we by e-mail, I00:19:44
copied Grom’s response from the email, I want to00:19:48
say what to judge anything before00:19:51
temporarily that00:19:54
this could all be elements of00:19:57
information psychological warfare. But00:19:59
on the other hand, there are signs00:20:02
that the conflict00:20:03
between the same field commanders00:20:05
that Alexander Prokhanov tried to reconcile with his text,00:20:08
how to00:20:12
disavow, how to smooth out, it00:20:15
can actually to take place00:20:19
and this controlled chaos or controlled00:20:24
appearance of chaos is the reality of00:20:27
today to which I wanted to draw your00:20:31
attention. Write in the comments what you00:20:34
think about all this and how you00:20:36
feel about the comments of Vladimir00:20:38
Gromov, who00:20:40
agreed to comment and answer00:20:43
my questionsDescription:
Я решил задать вопросы Владимиру Громову о происходящих в информационном поле событиях, связанных с перепалкой полевых командиров, участников событий 2014 года. И вот какие ответы дал мне Громов. Ключевой посыл Громова: если вы мужики, не трещите об этом в соцсетях, а разберитесь по тихому, если вам есть что сказать. Бульте мужиками. Не пи..дите на каждом углу, что вы жертвы чего-то.
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