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good afternoon hello dear friends

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of the microphone Masha Myers this is a youtube channel

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live guests of the programs personally yours in

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your place at 3 o'clock on weekdays we

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meet here with you write

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your questions write your comments

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especially taking into account the fact that the guest is

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today personally, your writer Viktor

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Shenderovich screen longer hello

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good afternoon hello actually I wanted to

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start 9 years sentences of the American

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basketball player Britney Grier about whom

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Greiner forgive me until today

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they talk and write a lot and again remembered

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about as if they remembered about gender she and

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started talking about exchange as far as possible

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this situation cats are considered as soon as

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we see him and perhaps I believe that a

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harsh sentence is a direct invitation, I do

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n’t know how specific

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the agreements are in terms of subject matter, how much it’s

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just a game, and if it’s not a game, then this is

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an offer, yes, no, not six months probation, up to

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9 years, that is, if you want to get

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yours give it back from the citizen as

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if yes, it’s clear

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that as for the fight against

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drug trafficking, it seems to me that the

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leadership of the FSB could start there

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without going too far into basketball, straight

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from themselves, and well, in general, the leadership of the

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Russian Federation, yes, because for us

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drug trafficking

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was supervised for many decades by various van hool and yes

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Yes, and all this Argentinean Afghans

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forgive the Afghans, too, of course, they are

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protecting all these crossings, but all

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this traffic is Argentinean and so

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on, it’s clear that this has nothing to do

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with the fight in the morning on to trade to

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more trade to them, it’s clear what

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direct is an offer for an exchange, and if

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we manage to exchange it, it will be for an

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excellent agenda new for Ostankino for a

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week about the fact that we don’t

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rent them out, we don’t know all of our own, not

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much for a week, despite the fact that in general,

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how does it matter now?

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he has the feeling that everyone forgot about him,

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even woke up, they remembered him more often than about

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Victor Bout, he’s been in America for ten years now,

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but nevertheless we don’t rent out our own from our own, we don’t

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rent out and that’ll be all

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that’s possible, but Masha, what about Holland and

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they’ll tell everything that it will be possible to comb the

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patriotic agenda, everything will be

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calculated on, and from the topic of our own we will not give up

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against the background of the sight of tens of thousands of nameless

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dead cannon fodder to against the background of

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substances the number of direct betrayals of

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Russian citizens, here then there will be a

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big victory for Russian diplomacy,

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in fact, then they were talking about-

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and I’m just but since we touched on this

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topic in context, after all, he’s sitting on the street

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on American citizens, why has

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n’t this exchange taken place yet on the

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scale of the month, that is, well, as if

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history is not history, no, of course I don’t

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know, you can see Masha and Vitya’s tasks

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logical details it is clear that

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the trade in hostages is an old old

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proven

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Soviet business, they don’t break it in places

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where it hasn’t broken yet, it works, it

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works, they’re drying up, they’ve banned it, right now we’ll

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trade with Jews normally, this is a

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proven fraternal half-century

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ago,

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it’s clear that ours continue to

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assist the godson of court decisions,

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because they don’t Greiner uniform we have a

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lot more on this list the actual

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news of the week this is a mitigation in the

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Mau case mitigation of padilla Zuev about whom they didn’t

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release although as far as I understand he

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also hopes that she can be

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transferred to house arrest but she is

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still all for it as you What do you

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think is connected with this trip and is it

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possible to say that the rector’s business is

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generally ending, I don’t think it’s

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ending, this is some kind of tactical

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before tactical changes, I don’t know what’s

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inside and I’m in the bestbuy hut, God for

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me and I think that for all of us to speculate

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on the statement of the investigators

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that he handed over everyone there, and so

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on, I think

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it’s pointless to speculate here, I’m glad that

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people are under house arrest, they are under

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ordinary arrest, I don’t think that this is the termination of

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the case, remember how we rejoiced at the

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mitigation in the Dmitriev case, it’s

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true, it’s true there is a slightly more

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fundamental point,

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after all, Zuev is a systemic liberal and

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Dmitriev was simply a direct enemy of the direct

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enemy of the security officers, an etiologically direct

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open enemy, and therefore, what kind of

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fate is this, in

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fact, this field is in its purest

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form politically, what is it about Zuev, I don’t

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know, I can only rejoice at the mitigation

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bags, yes, but at the same time, the cancer still

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remains,

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we don’t know, we don’t know the details, we

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don’t know the details of what’s happening

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inside, everyone is under subscription, all the

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lawyers, no one to say anything in particular,

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and then with Dmitriev, I’ll remind you that it’s

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really the same thing after all

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article, pedophilia is a much more

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serious accusation than even there to become

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this is Masha this is what seems

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unprincipled hmm this is a way out this is a way out

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acted like how residents of the European Union

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just

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have a table for someone the law here

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has some general significance there are a

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number of pedophiles before us

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they lead the country, yes, everything is fine, that

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means the people who organized the

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Seliger camp with all the stories from this

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because of the tents like this,

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nothing is normal with them, no one has been in prison for 13

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years, so we won’t look

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at the law at all, and especially since

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Dmitriev is already like that in relation to pedophilia, yes, that

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means there is no law here, it is

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what they consider expediency, so it

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works in their case, and it is

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expedient that Dmitry’s

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demonstrative actions as a pedophile would

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bring horror to the whole world, to horror to all of us,

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almost not even so much to the world as to

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that’s what concerns gold, I

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really don’t know what

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the situation is inside, aren’t you the ones who will be

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watching, yes, yes, for you, then for someone that

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it will turn into gel polish and only a

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temporary solution, unfortunately, it’s no longer for the

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pharmacy around the corner, but it will be watched, for

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example, yes, tell me Let's then

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move on to the agenda around senior

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government officials before the Russian ones,

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and today we will meet in Ardagan

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Sochi, what progress can there be here, do

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you think to what extent Erdogan

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can really take on a

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mediation mission in the Russian let's

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say such a Russian-Western

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conflict, what if we don't limit ourselves to

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just the Russian-Ukrainian maybe,

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paradoxically, Erdogan

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can now trade with the West, rich,

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rather complicated relations with

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Western partners in NATO, even at

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least

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he’s still so untethered from

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the community, so he, paradoxically,

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can take on the role and, with a

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tank, trade with what he usually traded in

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past years Putin

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mediation as a

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mediator in a conversation with a tyrant Putin

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in past years when he was a partner of

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the West, if you remember, he bargained say the

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opportunity to talk with someone Charlie and the

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wounded to

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all sorts of means them and us of course here

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on-on-on Herod in the Iranian direction, that

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is, he could be a mediator between

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the West and the

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outcasts, strange outcasts, now by himself, the

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outcast Erdogan can bargain with the

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West

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to be important figures in this sense, Putin

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needs something else, Putin, that is,

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in batches, another thing was predicted that a

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huge significant axis of China is being created

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Tehran Istanbul Moscow

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opposing this means the West,

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God, I kept remembering the agenda this

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poster seems to be new new Samoilov remembered

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half a century ago solde

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bridge pian on us like a poisonous chat

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Europe is sending heresy yes this is all

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this thieves' [ __ ] fell out but what

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was meant is confrontation with the West

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together with China and we are partners and equal

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partners but there is no equality between

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us China, even between us and Iran, it

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is clear that today we are a much less

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significant part of any structure

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there, we could be partners of

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the West if you wanted, but this

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opportunity was not thrown away, and with these

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guys, no one is actually going to

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help us, and

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maybe if there were some path -

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now China will give up all their hopes, they

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will start defending Russia and rtg Erdogan

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will do what is beneficial to him as well as the

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ayatollahs, but in your opinion, this is an attempt

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to create this line, as you said,

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Tehran Istanbul Moscow Kabul what other

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cities were included there, how

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slow is it to follow the trail no, first of all, we have

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a lot of operas in our partners, we have

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all rogue countries, yes, there is not a single

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cannibalistic regime there, our Hamas, no,

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I’m quite satisfied with Donetsk and not a single cannibalistic

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administration with which we would not be friends,

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that’s nothing successful you there there will not be

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China and the confrontation between China and America,

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those before the Chinese world is really

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powerful and

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potentially dangerous with the Western world,

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this is a serious

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strategic confrontation, it has already lasted for

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decades for many more decades, I

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think this will be the main agenda of

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international politics,

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Russia, unlike what I am trying to

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present there in Ostankino for the

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Ostankino audience of Russia in this in

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this design the general fifth wheel is sewn on the

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mare's tail,

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he would like to join us, we are big, but we

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can’t join him, he is an outcast and

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no one is going to

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take him out especially if you saw how he was

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met in Istanbul at least in the quarters, yes he

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sat and waited until

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our great ruler of the world, who

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made him wait for hours, I made him wait, and Erdogan made him

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wait, and whether it was that one or it

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was,

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yes, I remember this, did the Ayatollahs arrange it this way,

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did Erdogan arrange it for Putin to just sit down with

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some kind of well, just a release note, this

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room In my opinion, the Ayatollah is still an Ayatollah,

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yes yes, and fat, well, that is, on

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the wall he killed the walls of the heating members and in an

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empty room, that is, clearly not an analogue of

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St. George's Hall, that is, clearly somehow

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important guests are greeted, otherwise it is not a

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very important guest, but he arrived and how

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sits and waits, this is the place

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that Putin chose in the end for us, which is a

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shame, not for himself, for us, for Russia,

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so in the waiting room in the ayatollah’s quarters

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there or in

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fact, tell me then, an

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attempt in this sense is good, not on an

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equal footing, but to enter into a partnership with China and

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in general, an attempt to create this, let’s say,

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world with other

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geopolitical points with other

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geopolitical pillars, and to

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what extent, again, I ask, is not successful,

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I think that the salvation of Russia is not successful, of

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course, because, well, once again,

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partnership partners presupposes at

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all

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human levels before partnership assumes

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equality with vassals does not make friends with the

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weak does not make friends with the weak they use the weak in

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politics to the end and in general there is

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Darwinism of politics everywhere, well, you can

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help the weak, you can also eat you, help you

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based on some of your own considerations,

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or eat you based on your appetites, but

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in Russia clearly not not an enemy, the situation

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today is being cemented, not economically, not

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politically, in any way means an attempt once again,

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an attempt, an attempt to cuddle up and say who is

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on Vasya and me, as in that joke, that’s

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who we are, Vasya, here we are with China,

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partners who are on us, this is this attempt,

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ready and she It seems to me quite and

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successfully it doesn’t seem to be a hallucination

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Putin is doing this is trying to do it that

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he has only someone to talk to but

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look today for example Peskov

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commented in this way Peskov

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commented on relations with France that it is

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not a friendly country and that in general

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they would want to talk on the phone

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would talk why with mind Krohn did not

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succeed in

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mediation and Erdogan

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seems to be not succeeding but these are different

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completely different different stories different

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tasks Erdogan Akron is just from different

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sides Erdogan is a very technical dexterous

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blue alpha male, unlike

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Moscow, a democratic beautiful

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Kron and

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God, like a schoolboy, succeed with the choice

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punk conversation matron with Putin this

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pin from

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from the Komsomol committee sent

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sent a girl from the Komsomol committee

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to talk to a standing tenth grader

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yes, well, talk to a hooligan it’s not

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good to behave sing and you’re a disgrace to the

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team let’s think about singing and what

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can be done

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in general talk killed

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psychotherapy for many hours but you live

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cheap gas this is another interesting these are

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interests so well this this one is punks and

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in fact I am the driver and because

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she realizes her interests

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[music]

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hers like him like Negan no no

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no not vandals

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millions and some millions are not there

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the path of 140 million that

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he threw under his hooves as best he could with the whole gang

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and to try to do this on this territory for

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these 140 million before

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we simply perish in these spaces

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to the west of China in these endless

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expanses tasteless before we perish and

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rot so that we can try

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do something about human self-government,

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federalism, this is all

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platitudes. for the spirit of banality

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there was your break only banality for many

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many years he believed equal to the angle

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of reflection the cashier reported the curtains the result is

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banal here we are since they are all made of brand

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curtains and deny the laws of physics

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then we will get started by rebound because

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I have already rebounded him and also

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not yet as he wants it, only this

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rebound has only just begun to sound electric current,

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so Putin’s interests are interesting to Russia

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and Russians, these are completely

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opposite things in Putin’s interests to

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die in power

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because he will not die in freedom otherwise

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his interest is to remain in power his

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interest

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in in this context, to

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do so in order to delay the catastrophe

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as far as possible, it will be as

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sick as possible for Russia, but after that my flow could not,

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but in time to live in freedom, he

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now has no other task here except to

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remain in power, which means free, and

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he realizes this with Chantal Gas

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blackmail,

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so to speak, nuclear blackmail has no

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other meaning, but our common task is

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of course, but the other thing is that we

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can’t influence much and no one can really

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influence, that is, they could influence, as they

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said, large battalions of

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people who took to the streets could influence the drive,

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hundreds of thousands could but

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we passed this stop 10 years ago in the

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current status of Russia in the current small

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social sciences of Russia when we are

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no longer talking about hundreds of thousands of cancer

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and when only a few people get out and are

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imprisoned for years for their

00:17:49

opposition, open Putin

00:17:51

in this situation is additionally ours

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he solves his problems quite successfully while he is in power and

00:17:59

it is not yet visible, which

00:18:00

means how he can be

00:18:03

no

00:18:05

worse for power for Russia, that’s all, but this is the

00:18:08

logic you said, and then at least it’s

00:18:10

really the only one possible

00:18:12

there, it seems, that is, the successor operation

00:18:15

if some hints that it

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might be the right way out, in

00:18:21

my opinion no, but that’s not the point, even the point is

00:18:24

that you have now moved to the tactical

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level, you have now moved from the question of the

00:18:28

task to the question of the technological

00:18:30

implementation of this task, that is, how

00:18:32

exactly way to stay in power, well,

00:18:36

relatively speaking, burn your

00:18:38

immediate circle with flamethrowers and replace him or

00:18:40

someone from your reliable inner circle, put someone in prison,

00:18:43

organize

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Medvedev’s story for the second time, and so that you can hold such a

00:18:49

person who has been castrated in advance, so to

00:18:51

speak, but I think that’s not

00:18:54

why they were me in the twenties It

00:18:57

seems like the constitution was

00:18:59

n’t for that, he did it

00:19:03

completely illegitimately, breaking everything over the

00:19:06

knee,

00:19:07

turn on the security, virus restrictions, yes, he did

00:19:10

n’t do all this just to leave,

00:19:12

I think that he doesn’t trust anyone and he’s

00:19:14

doing the right thing, he understands perfectly well

00:19:17

that they’ll hand him over now they’ll hand him over with a huge

00:19:21

hunt, a huge benefit for the one who

00:19:23

surrenders because the one who surrenders under will

00:19:26

forgive to mean that all of them who are under

00:19:30

sanctions they will not immediately finish, I’m

00:19:34

not even talking about the money that will be

00:19:35

paid for this, of course, so he is

00:19:39

absolutely right, he doesn’t trust anyone and from the

00:19:42

palm of his hand among the most selected people,

00:19:44

his personal safety has long been the

00:19:48

main agenda of the state of his

00:19:50

states, but the internal agenda is

00:19:53

outwardly clear, and great Russia,

00:19:55

all this tops for the ears is not demanding,

00:20:00

and internal ones, only one’s own

00:20:01

safety

00:20:02

will not be a receiver in any way, and I think I will be

00:20:05

strong I’m surprised until after the time we

00:20:08

talked about this topic about our own

00:20:11

safety, what happened on Mars to the

00:20:13

central Chubais, as you understand, his

00:20:15

sudden illness,

00:20:17

I think that this is poisoning, the

00:20:20

reputation of the country is such on the reputation of the

00:20:25

state that poisoning is the

00:20:28

first version and the main version,

00:20:30

you know, if something - then something happened

00:20:33

there, some rare disease would have happened

00:20:35

to former officials of the government of

00:20:37

Akron, but this is not so to say, this is a

00:20:39

completely private medical history

00:20:41

when this happens to a person of the

00:20:45

status of Chubais, the symbolic status of

00:20:48

Chubais, and I would say because he has long

00:20:50

been part of this was part of this

00:20:53

administration, an important part of this is fast,

00:20:56

but for the public and for many security officials and

00:21:00

for many people, he kind of symbolizes

00:21:03

from old memory to from old memory he is

00:21:06

liberals there now, such liberals, there are

00:21:08

no others, that is, there is Kara-Murza and

00:21:15

there is

00:21:18

who

00:21:21

Gorinov and so on so on, that is,

00:21:24

such liberals are not but liberals from in

00:21:28

large positions in the government, and Chubais

00:21:31

was, let me remind you, a representative simply for

00:21:34

negotiations with the West, he was an important

00:21:36

Perovian figure and this was, well, this is a very

00:21:39

important figure, this was a figure of the illusion

00:21:42

of self-deception, this was a symbol of this

00:21:44

self-deception, and

00:21:47

and a symbol and a symbol of pro and true reforms, a

00:21:49

symbol of a losing strategy, let me

00:21:52

remind you that it was Chubais, as if

00:21:57

for the liberal part of the public

00:22:00

there were guarantees when Putin was elected, everything

00:22:03

is fine, everything is fine, the country is developing, the

00:22:06

economy is growing, well, human rights, then the

00:22:09

Russian army is being revived in

00:22:12

Chechnya, a state state

00:22:14

demonstrative state up

00:22:18

this strategy was a disaster,

00:22:21

this tactics was a disaster, on

00:22:23

February 24 this disaster became

00:22:25

completely obvious, the silence of Chubais and

00:22:29

his flight or migration, call it whatever

00:22:32

you want, I don’t know how it was agreed

00:22:35

and whether it was agreed, yes, this recognition is an

00:22:38

absolute defeat of this tactic, but for a

00:22:43

huge number of people in

00:22:46

of course, he is a stranger to the authorities, all these intellectuals,

00:22:48

liberals, and such a demonstrative

00:22:51

water,

00:22:52

there are technical people, well, there is Nabiullina

00:22:55

Gref, yes, that’s all, and Kudrin, and there are

00:22:59

those bright ones like Chubais, who,

00:23:02

according to old political memory,

00:23:04

still caused monstrous irritation,

00:23:08

well, the first version is from poisoning, the first

00:23:11

version from poisoning, of course,

00:23:14

he had a choice in general, that is, was it possible to

00:23:16

remain part of the fact that the

00:23:22

Russian political elite after 2014 is

00:23:24

a fragment, but we see we see the

00:23:27

transformation of the same Panfilov

00:23:30

or someone else before we see the transformation

00:23:33

from people to dust

00:23:35

they sponsor not limited to a

00:23:38

huge number of biographies that

00:23:40

began as liberal Mizulin’s nose

00:23:43

from an apple, I’m not confusing anything, but it doesn’t matter a

00:23:45

huge number of a huge number of

00:23:48

political figures in their political

00:23:49

careers began in the liberal camp

00:23:52

in the 90s ended in an absolute monstrous

00:23:56

disgrace today’s trash, but still

00:23:59

this is not about Chubais at all it’s obvious

00:24:01

that no matter what he is, he’s not trash, he’s a

00:24:04

fighter, he’s a player, but he lost this game

00:24:07

and immigration was an admission that

00:24:11

he lost, you’re

00:24:14

another question, why touch him too much,

00:24:16

somehow his ears stick out, he knows himself, but in general,

00:24:19

this one is even good question, yes, I understand the

00:24:22

same thing you repeated around in many ways, but it’s

00:24:24

true, let me remind you that it was unprofitable

00:24:27

to kill the abyss, about super help, but that was

00:24:30

15 years ago, it was a fresh argument, but it is

00:24:33

no longer profitable for him since then

00:24:36

Putin has been around and his enemies have died in commercial

00:24:38

quantities every time, but it’s not

00:24:40

beneficial for him, and Navalny’s poisoning and the guy

00:24:41

only got caught becoming immortal,

00:24:44

in general, it’s a little not profitable for him, so he

00:24:47

got caught on what he covers to buy,

00:24:49

and half a hundred over was the customer for the

00:24:52

actual poisoning of Navalny, he

00:24:54

got caught like that, today the project of the

00:24:57

Levada GOST to say the devil's hole it's too

00:25:00

late for him to drink Borjomi it's already quite well

00:25:02

Chubais Chubais and you will prove

00:25:05

this is it you will prove everything you're lying

00:25:09

here there's nothing even to say

00:25:12

let's go back to China pike visit didn't

00:25:16

sleep you know yesterday just like this

00:25:19

I even had yesterday how many programs

00:25:22

we have this

00:25:23

so they touched on the political aspect

00:25:26

completely related to this visit to me and there

00:25:30

was such a remark that yes, no, China

00:25:34

won’t now, that means

00:25:35

annexing Taiwan will not be anything, here

00:25:38

they are, our dad is rattling weapons,

00:25:40

firing missiles around, but nothing

00:25:41

will happen because it’s unprofitable to read I

00:25:43

was loaded with what wasn’t there, it reminds me of

00:25:45

the conversations of February

00:25:47

2022, as you understand why

00:25:50

this visit was organized and

00:25:53

what its consequences will be, I don’t know, I don’t

00:25:57

know, I can guess. again it’s clear and the same

00:26:00

as you Masha, I’m reading about the same

00:26:02

sources, different and with different eyes,

00:26:04

the ability to analyze a little was

00:26:06

me time to change positions sitting not and they and

00:26:10

they are not a

00:26:13

political scientist and not an orientalist and not a sinologist

00:26:15

and and so in

00:26:17

relationships that’s why I I can only

00:26:20

quote now with an important look,

00:26:22

I just read it yesterday

00:26:24

on the Internet

00:26:27

and some person whom I

00:26:30

trust here is the only thing I can, according to my

00:26:33

feeling, is

00:26:34

that I read

00:26:36

very much anyone understand America is

00:26:39

America and Biden might not be delighted

00:26:42

with this idea new we can’t say until the

00:26:46

third figure, no matter the state is not

00:26:48

flying, she’s flying, the

00:26:52

domestic woman made it clear that Velcro

00:26:55

is ahead, is it you who flew to them for

00:26:57

a man to go on a date, but there are

00:27:00

interests, there are different political

00:27:02

interests, elections, by the way, soon there are

00:27:05

ideas about how to what- then

00:27:08

internal political interests are

00:27:10

principles, after all, that

00:27:13

sometimes work in politics, and in this

00:27:16

case I don’t completely rule out,

00:27:18

given the length of service and status, I

00:27:22

completely rule out that this was a

00:27:25

rather

00:27:26

principled demonstration, yes,

00:27:30

I don’t think that Baidan is delighted

00:27:32

with this story, I really don’t think I

00:27:35

also don’t know what happened to end in war or

00:27:38

what kind of situation in Taiwan I don’t know, but I ca

00:27:41

n’t say anything here, I can only

00:27:42

say that of course, that’s

00:27:43

just what was missing, and what about the

00:27:46

stability of the situation in the

00:27:48

world, that’s just what was missing, of course,

00:27:51

that’s how when now it’s just starting to burn

00:27:53

everywhere young and there’s no there’s just no

00:27:57

point that wouldn’t flare up that’s

00:28:01

all everything you wanted plus beams in

00:28:03

the face and plus Nagorno-Karabakh that’s the

00:28:05

same free cities to remain Grenada

00:28:08

yes well, take it for the sparkle they’ve long since become like

00:28:13

such a time it’s time soft

00:28:15

triumphant democracy of success, well,

00:28:19

what began was that the peak kick

00:28:22

of this there was the Schengen zone, the

00:28:23

unification of Europe, that is, a kind of

00:28:26

movement movement

00:28:29

towards unification she she she was huge

00:28:32

very strongly according to all the laws of mechanics

00:28:35

secret and went the other side at some

00:28:37

point there defects some defects before

00:28:40

liberalism failures and demagogues and failures

00:28:44

weak leaders and a little flabby muscles

00:28:47

relaxed then in the absence of the present

00:28:50

there without Hitler without Hitler and Stalin

00:28:53

they relaxed a little and now we see

00:28:56

some crisis of liberalism and again the

00:28:59

centrifugal tendency and brexit and we

00:29:02

see the emergence of a huge quantity, but

00:29:04

it’s already been 10 years since the

00:29:06

right-wing leaders of Europe have been imprisoned, and so the decline of

00:29:10

the split within Europe is all in some

00:29:12

sense probably normal, because

00:29:14

the pendulum swings and swings, God forbid

00:29:16

that it doesn’t swing too too

00:29:19

deadly for world history, but until

00:29:22

today we live, of course in an

00:29:23

unbalanced

00:29:24

world,

00:29:26

it’s a pleasure for alpha males to steer

00:29:29

such an unbalanced world and

00:29:32

America, which in fact remained in charge of the

00:29:34

eldest, yes, but it also had a trump, yes I

00:29:37

remember, yes, no special

00:29:40

internal unity was observed; this,

00:29:42

of course, the situation is quite

00:29:45

alarming, but it’s just a question yet in

00:29:48

what can replace this near and

00:29:50

liberalism and how 6 what will be the way out of this

00:29:53

because it seems to me that I am with

00:29:54

Pastukhov and you read the other day that this is

00:29:58

such a giran covering and

00:30:01

power for the old man and in this power of the old men

00:30:05

they return to the topic and people to the

00:30:06

illusions of which they lived there in the

00:30:08

seventies and eighties, we are sitting

00:30:11

in Birsk toys, all these how to say

00:30:15

frozen conflicts, yes, this is the

00:30:17

feeling, but I don’t agree with this from me, an

00:30:20

oral history that must change, a

00:30:23

whole political generation, apparently

00:30:26

all over the world, so that somehow the world can begin

00:30:28

develop in a different way maybe maybe

00:30:32

argue with a shepherd it’s difficult I’m

00:30:34

just but the educational level

00:30:37

allows inclusion in the problems he’s a

00:30:41

professional

00:30:42

in politics in the knowledge of what’s

00:30:46

happening but the general to the general view the general

00:30:49

view is so alarming I think

00:30:52

nevertheless that well how we go through this on

00:30:55

different subjects, as it were, that after

00:30:59

all,

00:31:02

inside liberalism, but inside

00:31:04

democratic institutions, 2 the number of

00:31:07

devices is enough mechanisms to

00:31:11

prevent the machine from simply being torn apart,

00:31:12

there is still feedback,

00:31:15

so the destruction will still happen if

00:31:18

it happens and it happens only with

00:31:20

sides and such

00:31:22

uncontrollable energies of political

00:31:25

alpha males, you understand, I repeat

00:31:28

when there is Erdogan, there are ayatollahs there, Kim

00:31:31

Chen Ena, Putin is here, and

00:31:33

when before in Europe, well, okay,

00:31:36

Hungary there, this is such a small

00:31:40

special case, but nevertheless

00:31:42

[music] the

00:31:44

temptation to steer is very great the temptation

00:31:47

to steer is very great I repeat taught

00:31:50

visa better no yes class left to

00:31:53

chance who is stronger yes who who will saddle

00:31:57

so download who will saddle someone who

00:32:00

will come up with something new and and we see that

00:32:05

this feeling is detonating with might and main that it is time to

00:32:07

steer in the Balkans lead with in Karabakh or

00:32:12

in Europe with Putin, these steered and these

00:32:17

steered and now and today dictates the

00:32:19

agenda, this is a very dangerous thing, let’s

00:32:21

also note that China did not enter at all,

00:32:24

so China traditionally waits for China to

00:32:27

rush, there is nowhere for it to rush in other

00:32:29

historical periods,

00:32:32

but this is but also China behaves, how to

00:32:35

say,

00:32:37

with restraint, and if China, we decided that it’s

00:32:41

time to stop holding back faith, then it

00:32:43

can become quite fun on the ball,

00:32:45

returning to the 1st half, but for

00:32:48

now they only walk around, fly, swim

00:32:51

in Aqaba, there is little road, it turned out

00:32:53

while they are demonstrating what tradition

00:32:56

is there are predictable ones that should have been

00:32:58

demonstrated,

00:33:01

but if I understand you correctly,

00:33:04

democracy is just like looking for the opinion of the

00:33:06

majority, yes, I don’t have voters who

00:33:09

can have some kind of boundaries beyond the boundaries of

00:33:11

politicians,

00:33:12

well, here, too, the market and the people are elected, but

00:33:14

here, too, you see such a thing

00:33:17

because everyone elected tyrants and this is in cheat

00:33:20

rallies came to power in this very

00:33:21

democratic way and then simply

00:33:24

dismantled the city mechanisms Hitler also

00:33:26

won the elections

00:33:28

Hitler was also a legitimate team then

00:33:31

simply in the thirty-fifth year there are no

00:33:32

longer any mechanisms left to change this

00:33:35

leader, just until the elections are canceled, which is

00:33:38

by the way leave them the sealant of all

00:33:41

the truth Gillis who said we won’t

00:33:43

win the next elections what they didn’t

00:33:45

promise three boxes before they

00:33:48

couldn’t fulfill it and had to change the paradigm

00:33:51

when it appeared, in fact, a

00:33:53

paradigm change until there are enemies all around you ca

00:33:56

n’t change horses at the crossing and that’s all

00:33:58

this only in the German language it’s like this,

00:34:01

no, the

00:34:03

peoples of the world can choose for themselves this

00:34:06

easily, we chose and we

00:34:09

chose and at the same time, well, as you

00:34:16

chose,

00:34:18

we were told, but we obeyed, we

00:34:22

were able to defend the work of these

00:34:26

democratic mechanisms that we already

00:34:28

knew about and in In this sense, the

00:34:31

responsibility of those who allowed this at the

00:34:34

turn of the century is much greater than that of the

00:34:37

former generations of Soviet people. We

00:34:41

simply did not know about the existence of these

00:34:43

mechanisms. I was already the

00:34:45

third generation. I was the third generation. Yes, and

00:34:48

my daughter is 4, which means that people here are in in general,

00:34:52

they already found out that they knew that it was there, it

00:34:56

could be used, but we were told not to use it, they

00:34:58

told us both tapes who would arrest

00:35:00

mine to have a millimeter or not,

00:35:03

listen, we’ll drive in naval style, who

00:35:06

don’t know to me, then when it’s up to her,

00:35:08

listen to me, it was clear whoever came to put

00:35:10

out the fire I’m here about this so that there is no

00:35:14

feeling of cont I’m leaving the bushes from this topic

00:35:16

anyone who would come by evolutionary means

00:35:19

after going to any

00:35:22

planting began began bus indicator process

00:35:26

Primakov Luzhkov Yugans no one by that

00:35:29

time to a certain no Gauls

00:35:32

were close there anyone who came if

00:35:34

mastic would obviously work, people were

00:35:37

irritated, so to speak, with the results of the

00:35:40

90s, obviously irritated because for a

00:35:43

very long time liberalism and democracy were

00:35:46

saddled by scoundrels, and for a long time there was no

00:35:49

gaydar to do 2 until December there

00:35:51

was no gaydar, but they were so scared, I’ll say

00:35:54

the count of Barsukov

00:35:57

already catch was the night and the power of anyone was it was

00:36:00

all these same royal professors

00:36:03

this is all a group of tadpoles who

00:36:05

continue to work for these scoundrels

00:36:08

I tell myself like a mantra that now

00:36:11

through the economy they will pull the country

00:36:14

somewhere into a bright future and not only

00:36:16

provide it to the nipples everything else over a

00:36:21

long distance,

00:36:22

well, I found out something was a loss because the

00:36:25

political tree was dragging this entire economy to the bottom

00:36:27

and there can be no

00:36:29

Gaidar forum of we repeat in

00:36:30

Zimbabwe, a country at war, there can be

00:36:32

no save other than the military one and

00:36:35

when there is Sechin who can go into the

00:36:38

treasury and Kadyrov, who can enter the

00:36:40

treasury, there can be no such economy,

00:36:44

yes, that is, they have already

00:36:46

gone too far away from the simulation, so

00:36:48

whoever came in a natural way before

00:36:52

this would mean a completely indicative

00:36:55

process and among those who loomed this

00:36:57

indicator of the processes was the daughter of Boris

00:37:00

Nikolaevich himself, Boris Nikolaevich himself

00:37:01

was not corrupt, he was the Russian

00:37:03

Tsar, he didn’t need any chalets in

00:37:06

the meeting there was nothing there, it wasn’t us, it

00:37:08

was clear that whoever came, let alone

00:37:11

all this, all these Korzhakova and Barsukova and

00:37:16

so on so on whoever came

00:37:18

naturally would start with

00:37:21

show trials that's all and

00:37:23

then they found it was necessary to find someone

00:37:26

and then they found this quiet Vova who

00:37:30

seemed absolutely and was absolutely

00:37:32

controllable fed from the palm of the Abramovichs

00:37:34

Berezovsky

00:37:35

stood in line like this to say in the crowd

00:37:38

of lackeys to the bottom there at the birthday party there

00:37:42

Berezovsky’s wife there is

00:37:45

absolutely indistinguishable who was taken, pulled up

00:37:47

and made the king of the

00:37:50

absolute

00:37:51

technical figure is absolutely controlled

00:37:54

well what happened next is a classic but we have already

00:37:58

talked about this many times one port but

00:38:01

just the specifics were that is not

00:38:02

specifics, on the contrary, strategically, the whole

00:38:05

point was that if it weren’t for Putin,

00:38:08

then they would have started to have very serious

00:38:12

problems,

00:38:13

not even in Russia, as it now seems, but

00:38:17

precisely in those who, so to speak, personified,

00:38:21

personified below

00:38:23

the claw, the whole bird was stuck in the abyss, this is a

00:38:26

perfect classic, now the situation is

00:38:28

like this that is, it has changed little in 20 years,

00:38:30

if not Putin, then

00:38:33

it is possible that the

00:38:34

situation is different, there is no situation.

00:38:38

friend, now the situation is completely different

00:38:40

because the eggs were not war

00:38:42

criminals the eggs were not corrupt officials

00:38:44

if they were not there was nothing to imprison for he was a

00:38:48

politician he was a politician given who is

00:38:52

hugely politically

00:38:53

responsible for a number of episodes but it was

00:38:55

political responsibility but he

00:38:57

was not a criminal and he did not order the

00:38:59

murders of his political opponents and did

00:39:01

not fall for and did not

00:39:03

break the constitution and did not

00:39:07

change the rules of the game and yours went to the polls

00:39:09

and between the year ninety-six there was a

00:39:13

very serious very serious conversation and

00:39:16

the prospect of martial law was very close.

00:39:21

this was all very close and

00:39:24

yet there

00:39:27

was a badger near the Korzhaks, this whole

00:39:29

team who convinced him not to go to the

00:39:32

polls because the elections seemed

00:39:34

lost, but after Putin then

00:39:37

Putin and eggs and only then were there people

00:39:40

who convinced him not to do not

00:39:43

commit one crime and he went

00:39:45

to the polls and won the elections before the water in a

00:39:48

monstrous administrative resource in the

00:39:50

competitive struggle of the

00:39:51

competitive struggle and

00:39:53

then we would have

00:39:56

missed this, perhaps the cancellation of elections, the

00:39:59

actual usurpation of power in 2000,

00:40:02

but the feeling is created, you

00:40:05

said I still want to return to your

00:40:07

fright phrase that almost like the low

00:40:10

public energy

00:40:14

of the form, there is a feeling that now if

00:40:17

Putin would make the most honest choice in the world

00:40:19

and he would still be more profitable than their blow,

00:40:20

well, somehow, because you

00:40:23

say there are practically no

00:40:25

political opponents left and plus, as you

00:40:27

say, otherwise this is an oxymoron, a

00:40:29

very honest political choice, fair

00:40:32

elections,

00:40:33

Navalny is leaving prison,

00:40:35

Kara-Murza is leaving prison, they are being

00:40:39

given time on television the same as

00:40:41

Putin, after six months the

00:40:46

investigation is shown on TV, she is free, ok,

00:40:49

watermelon will talk about the murder Nemtsova and

00:40:52

for six months they tell the people the truth

00:40:57

about the losses in this war about

00:41:00

theft about everything about all this after

00:41:04

this honest voices listen to Putin

00:41:06

never won an election at all not even

00:41:09

once Putin never won anything

00:41:13

he was appointed from the very beginning himself and

00:41:15

then maybe do you remember the year 2000

00:41:19

and one hundred and twelve percent in the last

00:41:21

two hours because they were afraid of the second

00:41:23

round one hundred and twelve percent of those who

00:41:25

voted in the last two hours

00:41:27

voted for Putin

00:41:29

against arithmetic in 2000, and what can we

00:41:34

say about voting on the stumps of

00:41:36

twenty Putin never won by choosing and

00:41:39

not he could have won, no one could have won, and there

00:41:41

was no way to call him, one percent of the population of

00:41:43

Russia had ideas about Pope Putin at

00:41:46

the moment when he was appointed the future

00:41:49

savior of Russia,

00:41:52

correct politics or public, forgive

00:41:55

yourself, you are under fifty years old, and

00:41:57

no one knows you except your wife and

00:42:00

comrades in a

00:42:01

pg then these are bad starting blocks for a

00:42:06

political career if we were talking about a

00:42:09

political career in the Western

00:42:12

version, Sarkozy at the age of 27 was the mayor of

00:42:16

some small town, then

00:42:18

they all rose for us, so he

00:42:22

makes political careers from his youth,

00:42:24

those are public, this is a profession, but here it’s

00:42:29

just they took someone quiet in the forehead and

00:42:32

made it to the saviors of Russia and tempo do you

00:42:35

remember how it was done he didn’t get out

00:42:36

of the TV he became

00:42:39

the savior of the masses in six months nothing to say about it now it’s

00:42:42

on the bottle a future

00:42:45

history textbook that’s how the dragon that set it grew out of this molly

00:42:50

peacefully on the brink of the

00:42:54

third world war and shed blood on

00:42:56

100 thousand lives, how this quiet mouse

00:43:00

turns out to be this monster, this

00:43:05

will be the most useful chapter for a future history textbook, if at all we

00:43:08

live to see the future textbook, what

00:43:11

and how will we get out of this war about

00:43:16

women conversation but choose the hour

00:43:20

you understand what is happening because

00:43:22

I got the feeling you know, even

00:43:24

probably for a long time you don’t come to Russia anymore

00:43:26

as you know, but somehow I

00:43:29

got the feeling we know

00:43:31

I was until

00:43:34

some time ago I didn’t get

00:43:36

the feeling that in general it’s indecent to talk about war CV joints

00:43:40

not just hand-nization tarutinization zation

00:43:44

already this is already more than once shadowing this is already

00:43:46

painfully aggressive and the reluctance

00:43:49

to touch at all touching to drink

00:43:51

it will not lead to the issue of anise

00:43:53

qualitative energy that’s what we’ll do with this

00:43:55

and as you understand process, you

00:43:58

can follow this, observe this

00:44:00

from the outside, what is happening in Russian

00:44:02

society with public consciousness, well, this is the

00:44:05

inoperable Stockholm syndrome, this is

00:44:08

absolutely their classic neurosis, repression,

00:44:11

repression,

00:44:13

psychiatrists say you need to talk through the

00:44:16

problem, it’s better to write talk through the

00:44:18

problem to solve the

00:44:20

internal problem, pour it out, talk about it first,

00:44:22

I need to name but there is a completely

00:44:24

opposite process of displacement,

00:44:26

we won’t think about it, we’ll sit in the corner

00:44:29

of the sandbox, we’ll close it until we turn away, but like

00:44:32

those classic Ugra Granina written by

00:44:34

the Germans who said that they didn’t

00:44:36

look in the direction of the concentration camp, but they

00:44:38

knew where the concentration camp was and knew how to learn

00:44:41

not to look in that direction, here we are

00:44:43

learned not to look, Russian

00:44:45

society learned not to look in the direction of

00:44:48

Ukraine, the side of the war in the direction of

00:44:50

disaster, learned not to look, a

00:44:53

huge part is actually about such a choice,

00:44:55

I

00:44:57

am always on the side of the hostages, and I’m not for

00:45:01

the fact that you can regret making claims to them,

00:45:03

but here is my Facebook in which he

00:45:06

quite diverse quite

00:45:08

diverse and part of this Facebook is not the

00:45:10

political part but the cultural part I

00:45:12

see my friends there actors

00:45:16

directors there dohu just people of various

00:45:19

wonderful google and container professions

00:45:21

whose entire Facebook of the lead is closed

00:45:23

Facebook just close the profile or

00:45:26

rehearsals shooting landscapes weather

00:45:30

travel everything anything except

00:45:35

these are bleeding wounds, this doesn’t mean

00:45:38

that people are stupid and don’t feel anything, but

00:45:42

they should either go the way of

00:45:44

Kara-Murza or Yashin,

00:45:47

or even that teacher who at least

00:45:49

told her children about this and received a

00:45:52

suspended sentence, well that’s a suspended sentence

00:45:55

there is either to go through talking about this

00:45:57

trauma and then more what will happen either

00:46:00

cats kitties dogs cakes

00:46:03

rehearsals films filming friends trips

00:46:06

and this is neurosis this is neurosis why am I now

00:46:10

talking about people who understand what is

00:46:13

happening feels what is happening and a

00:46:16

huge number of Russians who

00:46:19

feed from the palm of their hand val Ostankino it is

00:46:21

of an instinctive nature,

00:46:23

it was given simply by

00:46:25

society, it hid, it is very visible, even

00:46:28

this, well, on a

00:46:30

media watch, all this can be seen as how the country

00:46:33

hid, but let me remind you that

00:46:36

yes, we are now in 40 mm, forty-one,

00:46:39

dad, the German analogue, and in

00:46:43

forty, in thirty-nine

00:46:45

you can hide from the unleashing of the Second

00:46:48

World War, you can eat strudel, drink

00:46:50

beer, and yes, but it’s somewhere out there and don’t

00:46:54

look there, and in the forty-third year

00:46:57

you can try not to look, although it’s already a

00:46:59

loss, although the economy is already worse and

00:47:02

there are big losses, and already in 44 45 I'm sorry

00:47:07

she's she's coming so this politics and

00:47:09

this pendulum will fly in so you

00:47:12

can't help but watch the bonds will start

00:47:14

falling on your children this is a classic and we are

00:47:17

now only at the beginning Russia is now

00:47:19

only at the beginning of this path the war

00:47:22

began less than six months ago

00:47:24

we are at the beginning this has not yet reached those

00:47:28

who prefer to hide, there is still an

00:47:31

opportunity to hide soon, so this is what I’m

00:47:34

talking about when I say that

00:47:36

the sooner the better and with lawsuits I wish for a

00:47:39

military defeat, but the

00:47:41

point is that it

00:47:45

happens faster, faster so that the fine is not

00:47:48

postponed for years and decades,

00:47:50

so that those boys and girls who

00:47:52

go to school today, those boys

00:47:55

whose caps are lined up with the letter z,

00:47:58

so that they don’t become cannon fodder in

00:48:01

10 years, in fifteen years, so that they don’t

00:48:04

become cannon fodder in this

00:48:06

ongoing battle, that’s not what we’re

00:48:08

talking about earlier we will sit down earlier we will leave therefore a

00:48:11

military defeat today and a military

00:48:14

defeat in Russia traditionally leads

00:48:16

to a change in power to reforms a

00:48:19

military defeat in Russia is a blessing

00:48:23

after military victories come the most

00:48:26

difficult times of repression that Alexander the

00:48:30

third that Stalin after the defeat

00:48:33

that Nicholas the first that Nicholas the

00:48:34

second that after the Crimea, that after Tsushima,

00:48:36

reforms begin, a military defeat

00:48:39

gives a painful signal to society that it is

00:48:41

impossible to live like this, a military defeat of Russia in

00:48:44

this war,

00:48:46

which is inevitably inevitable, a military

00:48:50

defeat is inevitable,

00:48:52

my alternative is the destruction of the world

00:48:55

with nuclear weapons and victory is impossible to

00:48:58

take anyone and Kiev, you

00:49:00

understand be it then the returns of Kherson sconce

00:49:03

if everything continues like this, so the

00:49:06

military defeat is obvious and for those who

00:49:10

turn away today they will let the cats in

00:49:13

or or rejoice at the letter z of

00:49:16

all the different features of their psyche

00:49:18

and education if the military defeat

00:49:21

becomes obvious then there is a chance

00:49:23

to save a lot of time and

00:49:26

and and start what -this is a movement

00:49:29

outward so that the empire finally dies and the

00:49:32

country remains because now it

00:49:35

can die along with the empire,

00:49:37

so all sorts of excuses, a Russian patriot

00:49:42

should want as soon as possible this

00:49:46

will save a lot of lives of

00:49:48

Skyra soldiers, I don’t even tell the lives of

00:49:50

Ukrainians how much this will save, but that’s

00:49:53

if to talk not about Ukraine, I will say

00:49:55

this to Russia, but to Russian interests in

00:49:58

Russian interests, that as

00:50:00

soon as possible it ended in defeat, people

00:50:03

grabbed their heads somehow in advertising and

00:50:05

marvel, what have I done, what have I done,

00:50:08

sat down on this ashes, which forms an

00:50:11

economic ashes then precisely

00:50:14

because everything will have to be paid for and

00:50:16

reparations are growing every day, the amount of

00:50:19

reparation that will fall on the children’s grandchildren,

00:50:23

which will fall on these very noble

00:50:27

people who today

00:50:29

are displacing this neurosis into awareness on them and

00:50:32

on their children’s grandchildren who will be cursed with

00:50:34

roses,

00:50:35

so I saved a lot time, if

00:50:38

it was possible to speed up this defeat with a snap of a finger,

00:50:43

it would be a huge benefit for Russia,

00:50:46

of course, it’s

00:50:47

a regret there is no such thing and there are no such

00:50:50

fingers, it’s all like that, keeping track of

00:50:53

your mother’s fingers is cool Katya the muse of history, he

00:50:56

takes out about ten years 510 well, as much as you need

00:50:59

and as much as you need and

00:51:02

it’s incredible to increase the price and how many

00:51:07

people will also die in Russia in Ukraine

00:51:10

and what the bottom will look like from

00:51:13

which we will collide when we fly, God

00:51:15

knows, it’s scary to think about it, it’s

00:51:18

scary to think about it, even for me,

00:51:22

who in general is more or less like the world at

00:51:27

least it seemed to represent

00:51:29

because this is unprecedented, we

00:51:32

don’t have it, we couldn’t have had such an

00:51:33

experience, we didn’t have such a starting point, it was

00:51:36

so cold in the mouth and we have

00:51:40

n’t even gotten to it yet, but HIV in men,

00:51:43

if you stop now for a moment it’s not

00:51:45

so wonderful as you, now it’s already

00:51:47

here, if now it was the bottom to look for everything

00:51:50

tomorrow,

00:51:52

we’ll pull out these poisonous catheters to

00:51:56

Ostankino, we’ll start before we’ll start the release of

00:51:58

tomorrow, with a magic wand,

00:52:01

Kara-Murza with Yasha Navalny,

00:52:04

let’s think about what to do next, it’s already

00:52:07

painful and humiliating because

00:52:10

early intoxication is not going anywhere, not

00:52:12

a line, not reparations, but we haven’t even

00:52:15

reached the bottom yet and we haven’t had such

00:52:18

experience, I repeat the closest experience is the

00:52:20

German experience of 1945,

00:52:23

this is the closest experience and we need to

00:52:26

count from it, it will take

00:52:28

a decade, that’s all it’s terrible and I

00:52:31

say it myself and listen with horror to what I say

00:52:34

because I seem to have a brain that

00:52:37

understands this and there is a heart

00:52:40

that

00:52:42

refuses to take

00:52:45

me into the shower, I’m a materialist, well, the mind protests

00:52:48

as in another understand

00:52:50

Samoilov said the ring

00:52:53

protests just like that with the soul with my soul

00:52:57

I want with my soul I want to believe in something

00:52:59

friend yes I’m just listening to you I understand

00:53:02

that the main context that is connected is

00:53:04

victory defeat victory defeat but

00:53:07

victory some kind of victory you gain this

00:53:10

scenario this is the scenario of some such pool of

00:53:13

recognized territories in general this

00:53:15

the scenario of the same DPR and LPR from 14 to 22 is

00:53:19

probably correctly a frozen situation

00:53:22

that Putin, in general,

00:53:24

like modern Russia, has jumped over

00:53:26

several times already,

00:53:27

but I have networks, but we don’t have it, rather they have it,

00:53:31

let’s say this is the first experience,

00:53:34

well, yes no no this is not a

00:53:38

defeat, this is exactly the worst thing that

00:53:41

can happen, that this rot is limping and

00:53:44

what kind of bloody pus will be stretched out

00:53:47

for a decade, a

00:53:48

probable scenario is really very

00:53:51

likely if there are ebbs, if we

00:53:54

assume that Ukraine

00:53:56

will allow a freeze, that Europe will surrender

00:54:02

Ukraine before, relatively speaking, and break

00:54:05

Ukraine to agree to some kind of peace, but

00:54:09

if if Putin breaks it with both cash

00:54:13

blackmail and nuclear blackmail, I don’t really

00:54:16

believe in it, it seems to me that the West is in the hands of

00:54:17

Cyrus for a long, long time opening his eyes in the photo

00:54:20

before lift my eyelids, but still raised it,

00:54:24

but if yes, let’s

00:54:27

play, but from the view from Russia, yes, this is a

00:54:31

victory, as if those parts that

00:54:33

were captured will be declared by

00:54:36

Ukraine and we won, and this is now

00:54:41

Russia, yes

00:54:43

no, they will be declared by Ukraine, which

00:54:46

will join, ask, Kiev will not be

00:54:49

Ukraine for him, this territory that was captured by the

00:54:50

Nazis Kiev Odessa Kharkov

00:54:53

Lvov these are the territories that

00:54:55

were occupied by the Nazis on a Ukraine we are

00:54:58

but liberate this Ukraine and if

00:55:01

this happens it means that

00:55:05

this bloody festering scenario will continue to

00:55:07

clog up and last for another decade

00:55:10

Russia becomes a

00:55:12

rogue country with weapons and begins to rot on the

00:55:15

concerned world and all this can last,

00:55:17

of course, for decades, this means that

00:55:20

those who wear pilot glasses in kindergartens today will understand that new cannon fodder is

00:55:24

small, yes, yes, they will grow up and

00:55:27

go to cannon fodder, just like the

00:55:29

lucky meat of that boy I

00:55:31

wrote about in the fourteenth year I had a

00:55:33

text here, he’s a piece of junk, he’s a grandmother with a grandson,

00:55:36

12 and 13 years old, before the grandson that I wrote on them

00:55:39

the price of Crimea,

00:55:42

so this boy grew up during this time and

00:55:45

went, I don’t know what exactly happened to this

00:55:47

boy, but tens of thousands of his

00:55:49

peers died, they were all from there where

00:55:53

were they for the Crimea, this is not not

00:55:55

Sakharov Avenue, yes,

00:55:56

this is all the so-called deep people, so

00:55:59

they pay

00:56:01

from then their children will be paid, so you

00:56:04

can write if we if we are

00:56:07

in the paradigm, excuse Leo

00:56:10

Tolstoy and also the fair-haired Montaigne if

00:56:14

human life for us, man is the

00:56:17

starting point and human happiness,

00:56:19

dignity and life is the main

00:56:21

priority,

00:56:23

then of course we must wish for a speedy

00:56:26

defeat at a minimal cost because

00:56:29

now it’s time to stop sleep will be

00:56:31

minimal, although we already have dramatic

00:56:34

vectors on the map, we can’t do that,

00:56:36

I still wanted to give finally

00:56:39

left you for dessert you know everything is so

00:56:41

delicious just now I’m peeking

00:56:44

up I forgot what to call it I remember

00:56:45

it’s called grab a group of

00:56:47

investigations of anti-Russian actions in

00:56:49

this wonderful about the child company Zakhar

00:56:52

Prilepin and the party how is this for a

00:56:54

fair life fair Russia

00:56:56

for life even like this what kind of

00:57:00

initiative there they attacked Urgant

00:57:02

on someone else

00:57:04

let's understand Voronezh wait the most

00:57:07

interesting thing yes the woman beat you are digging it means

00:57:10

no you understand this is a

00:57:12

completely vulgar thing yes I reaped

00:57:16

he wrote a text about it so forgive me

00:57:17

for the quotation itself this is peace sad

00:57:21

sad a gloomy scoop with notes from the

00:57:23

armpits of Count Uvarov,

00:57:24

opposition to the smell of the West, this is the

00:57:27

smell of opposition to our smell as

00:57:30

opposition to the West before us as a species

00:57:32

with each of Europe sends no, here we are

00:57:35

resisting, and with heresy, two things are interesting here, the

00:57:39

first is actually the vulgarity of

00:57:41

Mr. Comrade Prilepin himself

00:57:43

because Well, it’s just a vulgar city, it

00:57:46

was invented by a poet, the poetry of war, we’ll finish off the

00:57:49

squares and burn the enemy with fire, this is this,

00:57:52

this is designed for the electorate of the

00:57:55

gentleman before

00:57:58

Prilepin, this is what the people like, this is

00:58:01

his and those who read him text and

00:58:04

currencies, they’ll like this oh how cool and

00:58:06

poetic this city is we are now all sagem

00:58:10

enemies until in fact this is the same thing

00:58:14

as what this government was doing for many years before the

00:58:16

confrontation the West there was a funny

00:58:18

quote from

00:58:19

Deputy Kuznetsov Comrade

00:58:23

Zahara to walk along this blue hen

00:58:25

said that here are 100 people from there the

00:58:28

literary prize there the source of the

00:58:30

programmer scheme no one supported the war and

00:58:32

this was said by the deputy, evidence of

00:58:35

how this fifth column works, how

00:58:37

effectively Western propaganda works,

00:58:39

that is, the thought does not even occur to this dusty head

00:58:41

that people are against

00:58:44

war because they do not want murder and

00:58:47

abomination, that people are against death for life,

00:58:50

that people do not they want war and

00:58:53

this one in his head Leru is closer than across the

00:58:56

banks potomako the logical chain has not

00:58:59

been built

00:59:00

we are hostages with these idiots

00:59:04

scoundrel discuss this commission separately

00:59:08

listen

00:59:12

wrote Prigozhin

00:59:14

Prilepin

00:59:17

every time

00:59:20

Ottoman can be confused there

00:59:24

ta-da-da-da-da verbena map that’s what

00:59:26

distinguishes well these higher-ups between the pub,

00:59:29

sometimes the path means and not from you, what a

00:59:31

thing, which means Zahar is very technically

00:59:35

vulgar, he’s doing that, he’s doing PR,

00:59:38

if that’s what he’s doing, he’s busy doing

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self-PR, he’s a very successful

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person, he’s a very smart, dexterous, technically

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successful manager and he, you remember that

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coral did not publish the book as he was drunk in

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this book, he went to fight as a

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political commissar panda in the Donbass, so you

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know, brilliant again the company, he is a very

01:00:00

dexterous, precise, technical person, they

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forgot about him on himself, well, to whom is he from his skill,

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we tell him nothing more we need to talk about

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him, everyone talks about him,

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they mentioned

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the kingdom of heaven of Vladimir

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Volfovich in him, but still his lessons do not

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pass without a trace, there are talented people

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who are very successful, engaged in self-PR

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and every barrel is a plug, and as for

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style, Viktor Shenderovich was a guest of

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the program personally your time is up

01:00:28

my name is Masha Mars stay

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press the nails give us likes don't

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forget to subscribe have a nice day

01:00:33

bye

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