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These improvisations because there is no other

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way to call it have

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precisely generated distrust and I must say it

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in a very responsible way. Because if

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faced with an issue as basic as a

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presidential debate where the rules of the

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game are defined by the electoral court

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where the issues that are going to be discussed, address the

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Defines the electoral court where the

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electoral court is not an entity that

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emerged two days ago, it is an entity that

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constitutionally has been

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responsible for launching in a

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transparent manner an electoral process that

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culminates on May 5, 2024

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with the elections generals and the

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proclamations of each of the

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people who were elected then

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this atmosphere of distrust is created

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journalist lawyer former

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Spokesman of the Panamanian State Don Alfonso

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fraguela how is Alfonso welcome

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Good morning Very good morning Guillermo a

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real pleasure to be able to be with you in

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this broadcast of Today, Wednesday,

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February 21, 2024, after,

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let's say, returning after what

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was the festival of the god Momo, we are

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here at the foot of the canyon and Well, I think that

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many events have occurred

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to be

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analyzed and evaluated,

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especially within the

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electoral spectrum. which clearly what it

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has reflected has been many

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inconsistencies that have had to be

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rectified later by

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those in charge of guaranteeing an

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electoral process for the next May 5,

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2024. Hey, I think it has been a

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really important issue, an issue. which

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definitely deserves some comments

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eh And well we are here at the foot of the canyon

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Guillermo how do you evaluate it eh

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worrying me the truth is that after

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listening to, for example, the

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magistrates of the court yesterday from the

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electoral court yesterday eh I am left

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thinking, you know, you You put the

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accelerator on from the You are a lawyer

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Alfonso I am not so the one who knows the

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judicial times is you and you will tell me

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if I am wrong But if you put your

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foot on the accelerator in the in the

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judicial body it is to get to the bottom of the

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situation but if you put your foot in it

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you announce and nothing happens Why did

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you do it? I don't understand. Yesterday

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we were arguing in the Tuesday gathering I

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had a theory that maybe

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Martinelli knew that something was going to

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speed up to get ahead of the

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times but Later, when

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Néctor González was here, there was Josbel Almengor and

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Francis Nero, we came to the conclusion

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that not because there are

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electoral times even when the

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resolution of the

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Supreme Court Justice of the electoral court arrives

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that may cause the

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printing date of the elections to collide. as with still the

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review of the martinelli case

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eh Wow So

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look, I spent 20 years doing

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politics and at this point Alfonso I

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was already walking around the country training

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table jurors with the

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presidential ballots Of course with a

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sign that said for education

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only but I remember for this

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date that it was already well printed

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what is going to happen can happen and sorry for

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interrupting you so I don't

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want to leave it in the air it could happen that

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on election day to print the

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ballot in a month before the

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elections go see the

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voting center without without without ballot

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Alfonso Look, this is an issue that has

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surprised me personally and I think it is important

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that we clarify it because definitely

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eh It seems that all the problems of the

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country revolve around the candidacy

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Ricardo Martinelli If we see what happened

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eh with the ruling of November 28,

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sorry with the ruling where I know where it is

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admitted or not admitted, I correct what

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the appeal was eh And obviously

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that happens and is The edict sets the

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Friday of Carnival, evidently in

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that there is nothing that is Expeditious that

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leaves the second criminal court and

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it has been sent to the

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second liquidator court of

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criminal cases so that

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the court would then immediately issue the

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pertinent communications proving it. that the

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electoral court itself yesterday

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eh a communication that was made public

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indicates that until yesterday eh

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the communication had not been issued or had not been received

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by the

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Supreme Court of Justice in this case from the

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second liquidator court eh

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specifically that It is part of the

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judicial body. Personally, I

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expected that this decision or this

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communication would be made last week,

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however, eh. And that taking into

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consideration that it is a high-

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profile case, this or that, yes, that was the

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objective, but by announcing that Up to this

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moment there is no official communication

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and all this has generated a series of

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collateral acts that have

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even impacted what is the

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presidential debate, which even issued a

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resolution where it says an agreement where it

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says that supposedly the one who is going to

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replace Ricardo Martinelli is

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Dr. José Raúl Molino, which was

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inadmissible because Ricardo Martinelli

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had not been disqualified for the position.

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This forces us to refer to article

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362 of the electoral code, which speaks of a

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suitable candidate. The suitable citizen who

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occupies who is the main candidate will be

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replaced. when it is eh How do I tell you

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disabled the the the the main

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Then replaced by the substitute

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So this situation has been generated

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opening the compass for the substitute to

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enter the operation because we must

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remember and I do not say substitution as

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seeking to reduce the category or the

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range of of doctor mulino because he

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is the substitute within a

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presidential list there is a principal and a

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substitute in this case the president and the

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vice president yes we V yes if we

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also refer to article

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345 in that figure he does not speak and I speak of the

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electoral code no speaks of the position of

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vice president of the Republic but of

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the candidates for the presidency of the

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Republic, deputies, etc. etc.,

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then this whole

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situation has been generated that has impacted what was a

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presidential debate that

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should have been held today or It

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was supposed to take place today at

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night at 7:30, however, I

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feel that these improvisations

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because there is no other way to call it

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have

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precisely generated a series of events and a

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series of

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distrust and I must say it in a

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way very responsible Because if faced

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with an issue as basic as a

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presidential debate where the rules of the game are

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defined by the electoral court where

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the issues that are going to be addressed are

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defined by the electoral court where the

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electoral court is not an entity that

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emerged two years ago days is an entity that

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constitutionally has been

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responsible for guaranteeing in a

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transparent manner an electoral process that

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culminates on May 5, 2024

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with the general elections

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and the proclamations of each of the

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people who were elected, then

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it is created. This atmosphere of

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mistrust where

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the controversy definitely comes into play as to whether

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eh Mulino should participate or not

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mulino. I personally must

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be very very academic in that aspect and

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I was and am of the opinion and that is how I expressed it

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in two articles eh both on Monday

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as yesterday where he pointed out

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that Mulino could not compete as he

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could not participate in the debate and he could not

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participate in the debate simply and

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simply first because the principal

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had not been

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disqualified so tomorrow you have

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a debate of a vice president with a

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president or or suddenly eh eh How

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do I tell you, the

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scheme is being disrupted and the vision of supposedly

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in quotes the informed vote and the

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transparency that the

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electoral court wants to promote then eh perhaps

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the pressures because in

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situations like These Guillermo there are

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a series of external pressures before

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the electoral court that force him to

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have to make a statement. I mean, it is

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known to everyone that a series of

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events occur where he says, but the

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electoral court now you can't compete and

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he can't compete. because

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they declared him No, they have not declared him

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unfit and they denied him the criminal cassation and

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as a consequence of this

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a process must be carried out within the electoral court

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as the

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court itself had indicated in a statement a

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couple of weeks ago before of the

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carnivals where he said that it was up

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to the

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electoral administrative prosecutors and the

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electoral administrative judge to play a role, who would hear

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in the first instance in a second

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instance. In the event that the

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disqualification was granted, it would go before the plenary session, that

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is, before the room that would be

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made up by the three magistrates and

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in the face of the decision that could be given

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with respect to that decision, let's say

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confirmatory of the one

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of the magistrates assuming that they are

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going to be the decision to disqualify with

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constitutionally I do not say it, I say it

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the Constitution says it, the only recourse

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would be to present a action of

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unconstitutionality In other words, the

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electoral times, as you have

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pointed out, conflict with the legal times.

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So a confusion has been created that

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from a perspective and it surprises me

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a lot because within each of the

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campaigns there are very professional people

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who have experience in this issue and

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fan this type of error, I don't know if

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they will be, as they say in good Panamanian,

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fishing in a troubled river, but what

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they do is hinder and further affect the

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credibility of a process and create

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greater confusion, so what we have

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to do is the The recommendation that I

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would give to the electoral court would be to

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refrain from advancing criteria.

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Imagine that I am a judge, and

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suddenly they present a process and it turns out

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that I have to resolve that case,

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a journalist comes to me and puts a

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microphone in front of me and tells me How are you

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going to fail in the case of Mr.

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Guillermo Ruiz and I tell you no Guillermo

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is my friend I am going to see how I can

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help him in this matter So I

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am automatically, that is,

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I am giving an

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advance statement. It assumes that the

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processes must be

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impartial objectives, so they are the situations

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that clearly bring about It is a

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deep confusion among the population and

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this deep confusion what creates is

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greater darkness within a

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process that the presidential debate must be transparent

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or the

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presidential debates that were suspended

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today were

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scheduled for Monday and the rest of

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the date on Wednesdays that had been

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initially established. But what

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can I tell you, the perception that there is is

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that it evidently

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seems like they were acting

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against the candidate Ricardo

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Martinelli, something that personally I must

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be very sincere with you and this is how I expressed it yesterday and I

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reiterate it publicly, Martinelli

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should have to be clear about something

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if I want to be recognized by the

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electoral court, which is the only one

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that is going to recognize me. To recognize if I am president

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or I am not president,

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the community board is not going to recognize it nor is it going to be

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recognized by any media,

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it is the electoral court that is going to give me

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a proclamation and a date is going to be set

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where the band will put me

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presidential and all this show so

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I have to

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adhere to the rules of the

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electoral court I cannot go against

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the rules of the electoral court

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So what can I tell you a candidate has

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rights and obligations What are the

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rights and electoral criminal jurisdictions

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and a series of prerogatives

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contemplated by the law What are the

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obligations to attend the events

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scheduled by the electoral court with ways

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to enlighten the population of Facing the

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elections on May 5, of course, there is an

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atypical situation that occurs in this

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specific case Martinelli voluntarily

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entered to the Nicaraguan embassy and he is

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a political asylum according to what

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has happened and then he cannot

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leave the embassy to participate

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in a debate and of course the simplest way

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is to say well I was not planning to

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participate But that's the point What to provoke

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is that the chair of that party of the

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parties of that Alliance remains empty.

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Personally, I believe that this is an

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important aspect that must be highlighted,

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Guillermo, and we are going to talk about

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precisely that topic when we return from the

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break, Alfonso Fraguela here. in the

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Ancón chair on radio Ancón 92.1 FM and radio

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ancon.com, the journalist lawyer and former

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Panamanian State Spokesperson Alfonso

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Fraguela and we are talking

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precisely about the first

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presidential debate that Apparently I already

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prefer to say it that way it will be on Monday and

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we are talking about the

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empty chair I don't remember, except I think that the

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case of Felipe Calderón in Mexico, I don't

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remember a case where

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the second or third candidate came up against the

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first candidate because the

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empty chair sends a strong message

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when you are in an electoral debate

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first. What if In my opinion

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Alfonso If the candidate who comes

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first does not go and is very ahead There is

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Donald Trump instead of losing he wins

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because within his electorate which is the one he

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has to keep there is the message

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of Look I'm plenty I don't need talk

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to all these people, you don't even look at them.

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And what happens in the United States, the

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Republican presidential debates are seen by

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their relatives and some friends

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of the presenter, and nobody else has a

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very low rating because people want to

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see Donald Trump with the stupidity

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that he says but with the one he wants to see him

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And what is going to happen here I can

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assure you, you are a television man

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and I am sure that you will agree with me

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the problem that we are going to see here is that

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however they say it will There's going to be an

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empty chair and it's going to be Ricardo Martinelli, the

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king, it's going to be half of what was

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expected. Look, I think that

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people will probably participate just

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to see the empty chair,

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but you've touched on a topic

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that I personally feel. No, not only.

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from the aspect of the production of the

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event and the effects it will have

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on the electorate in the three

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presidential debates, the second one is going to be

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participatory, but rather, if you

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observe the line of the topics that are

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going to be addressed, they are very topics. In general, we are not

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going to talk about the issue of the

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lack of water, the issue of Cerro Patacón, we are

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not going to talk about a series of issues, the

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mining issue. In other words, there are many issues, the

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issue of constitutional reform. In other words,

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there are many issues that have not been discussed.

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Corruption does not appear in the L of

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the questions, that is, it is not even

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mentioned. It is a letter to the child God. What are

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you going to do when you arrive? Well, I am going to

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do this. I am going to propose this. I am going to

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solve this. How are you going to do it? Well.

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Each one will have to give their explanation

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regarding the issue but what I want to

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tell you Guillermo is that eh Probably

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what does work for them and I am

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referring to the candidates is for eh

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perhaps in the next

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post-debate opinion poll a difference will begin to be made.

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between one and the other because in the

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meantime they are all there where there is

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a margin of victory or there is one

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who is a little higher than the

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others etc. But I think that the

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debates in the way the

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candidate speaks, the way in which that has that

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lucidity of giving a response to respond and

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to provide credibility to the population

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uh it can definitely be an

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important aspect that can be seen reflected in

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the uh polls That does not mean that

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this is The Triumph of a candidate

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facing the elections because the The triumph

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of a candidate will be on

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May 5, that is a vital aspect and it is

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an unquestionable reality.

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What is the situation, returning to

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the issue of the exid of the former president and

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presidential candidate? Personally, I am

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facing this issue and it is It is an

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issue that they will have to evaluate, of course. There are

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a series of things, such as the issue that we have

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alluded to, which is the issue of

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disqualification. Maybe suddenly

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what they are looking for is the reason why,

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I understand, I entered the

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embassy. In order not to be arrested, a series

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of issues are the result of the ruling of

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the decision issued by the

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second criminal liquidator court,

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two options are open: one is either the candidate

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presents himself or the candidate resigns and gives

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the opportunity to the substitute, in this case

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it would be José Raúl Mulino. to be the boss or

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head of the presidential payroll

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so that he can

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fully participate in

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all events. I see this last

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assumption as quite difficult,

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however, they are two real scenarios that

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could occur at a given moment, you know,

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you know. Alfonso

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a a I put the empty chair or José ra

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mulo Not because I don't have the capacity

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but quite the opposite I put the

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empty chair because first I want him to send the

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message the candidate is still here

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what happens is that he doesn't want to come and see of course

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it's a strategy How many people

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know that Ricardo Marí is an

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embassy? I think that almost the

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entire population knows it. Now the question is

00:19:55

why, what I want to tell you is that

00:19:57

we are talking about a population that

00:19:58

is not so informed that it does not know the

00:20:00

details of what an asylum is. what is this

00:20:02

What is the

00:20:03

other of course all that all that is

00:20:06

within the scenario all that is a

00:20:09

reality and all that can happen that

00:20:12

people say Well there will be some who say

00:20:14

no what happens is that there is

00:20:15

political persecution and the and The man

00:20:18

went to get an embassy. Of course, to me

00:20:20

personally, it also seems to me that even though

00:20:23

he has the... How do I tell you, he has not been

00:20:26

disqualified and a proper candidate?

00:20:29

To me personally, it seems to me that it is a

00:20:32

uh a novelty that a candidate can

00:20:36

campaign eh Through that is to

00:20:40

say it another way and in good

00:20:41

Panamanian in another country because we must

00:20:44

remember that the Nicaraguan embassy

00:20:46

is an extension of the

00:20:49

territoriality of Nicaragua Let me explain

00:20:52

So how are you going to campaign

00:20:54

while being and if you are not, that is, you are in another

00:20:58

country, you are going to run a campaign in another

00:21:00

country where you want to be. But you

00:21:02

are in another country. This is a

00:21:04

somewhat confusing situation, however, it will depend

00:21:07

a lot on the role that the

00:21:09

campaign strategists are going to deal with. to

00:21:12

sell, which is the only

00:21:14

alternative that I see, which is an issue of

00:21:17

type of political persecution, there are a

00:21:19

series of issues that can arise and

00:21:21

that can impact those who are going to vote

00:21:23

for Ricardo Martinelli. I think it

00:21:25

has already been defined. Who is going to vote for

00:21:26

Ricardo Martinelli? That is a reality.

00:21:29

Personally, I see the rest of the

00:21:32

candidates and I say this with great

00:21:34

respect. In the face of a division and

00:21:37

with eight candidates, there are candidates

00:21:40

who want to be president. They want to be mayor.

00:21:42

They want to be a representative.

00:21:44

They want to be a deputy, you can't do

00:21:46

all the positions and that is the first thing

00:21:49

that for me personally seems to be

00:21:52

a real irresponsibility, a

00:21:54

lack of respect for the population because

00:21:56

then in the end you are going to have a whole

00:21:58

because you are going to have one person who wants

00:21:59

to be president someone who wants to be

00:22:00

mayor he himself wants to be mayor

00:22:02

wants to be a representative and wants to be a

00:22:03

deputy you cannot hold all the

00:22:05

positions and that is one of the problems

00:22:07

we have And that This is the message that I

00:22:11

give to the assembly that We have to eh

00:22:14

How do I tell you to overcome it, the

00:22:16

electoral court also has to stand

00:22:18

very firm in this type of situation

00:22:20

Because what has gone ahead and has generated a

00:22:23

degree of positivity eh in the face of

00:22:28

the population is called into question in things

00:22:31

like this in trifles like these You

00:22:33

know that A person cannot hold

00:22:35

office twice, eh, several times, several

00:22:37

positions at the same time. The only way

00:22:40

a public servant can hold

00:22:42

another separate position for the state is

00:22:45

to teach at a university,

00:22:47

but you cannot hold eh,

00:22:50

nor can you carry out acts. of commerce

00:22:52

are limitations inherent to the position you

00:22:55

are going to occupy, so I feel that this

00:22:58

type of situation is what has

00:22:59

generated, eh, how can I tell you, a degree of

00:23:03

greater social confusion in the face of an

00:23:06

electoral tournament that would be next

00:23:09

May 5. That's it. the perception that I have

00:23:11

Guillermo and and and what creates more

00:23:14

confusion in all this is not because at the

00:23:16

end of the road to see what day it is today

00:23:18

today is February 21, 2022 and

00:23:23

and and it gives me the impression that we are going to

00:23:26

drown in a series of Proposal, you

00:23:29

have campaigned, Alfonso, and you know that

00:23:31

when people, you go to people's houses,

00:23:32

people are not going to ask you about the

00:23:34

War in Ukraine, they are not going to ask you,

00:23:37

no, they are not going to ask you about

00:23:41

extraordinary things, the rocket that was It's

00:23:42

falling right now, eh, they're not going to

00:23:45

ask you about Putin, what if he killed a man?

00:23:47

What is Panama's position

00:23:50

regarding what Putin did to

00:23:54

a traitor of theirs? No, no,

00:23:57

people are going to tell you, look. I have the

00:23:58

septic tank here that has a brutal smell and

00:24:01

no one fixes it, look, I have

00:24:03

the candidate lamp here. I have seen

00:24:05

people ask the presidential candidate

00:24:07

to fix the light bulb on

00:24:10

the street lamp. I was next to the candidate

00:24:12

and the guys write down they don't know what are you going to

00:24:14

do what are you going to do eh the wax eh

00:24:19

look when my son goes to the al to catch

00:24:23

the bus he gets wet because the stop has a

00:24:26

little space. Those are the things that

00:24:29

people ask you when you You go to his house and

00:24:32

then sometimes we get lost because you

00:24:34

know that the candidate stops, I'm going to

00:24:36

solve his problems and

00:24:40

guarantee medicine for everyone. This

00:24:42

person first has to get to the

00:24:44

hospital and no, and sometimes he doesn't have money, if

00:24:47

I I was in a company where

00:24:50

the worker doesn't arrive because he doesn't have

00:24:51

money to go, you understand me exo. That's what,

00:24:54

that's what happens in real life,

00:24:56

so the campaigns go away, you know, I

00:25:00

saw it in the last campaign and that's why it

00:25:03

went down. the low number of votes for each

00:25:05

one and what worries me Alfonso and

00:25:08

the point I want to make to you is

00:25:10

that people say you know what, they choose

00:25:13

whoever they want, I'm not going to

00:25:15

vote there And that would be a disaster because

00:25:18

having a low vote with a

00:25:20

president who wins by 20 percent

00:25:22

of the votes you are going to have a country

00:25:26

in opposition for 5 full years Yes, just

00:25:30

like Nito, it will be exactly the same

00:25:33

situation as Nito, a little worse A

00:25:35

little worse definitely because he

00:25:37

It came out with a 33 percent and the government has

00:25:40

obviously been a disaster. So

00:25:42

imagine, a government that is

00:25:44

less than 28 percent, where you have a

00:25:48

population, as you have pointed out, that is opposite,

00:25:51

so unfortunately, I must be

00:25:54

very honest with you in that regard, the reading

00:25:56

that I received. Yes, and this is because of that

00:25:59

type of person-to-person survey,

00:26:01

when you sit down to talk and try to

00:26:03

evaluate the proposals,

00:26:05

people say, but when they get to the

00:26:07

position, the first thing they do is start

00:26:10

naming the people there. Once you reach

00:26:12

those positions, instead of starting to

00:26:15

attack the problems at the start so that

00:26:18

a change is noticed, a difference is noticed,

00:26:21

as you point out, you are going to grab all

00:26:23

the holes that are in the street on such and such a

00:26:25

side and you are going to cover them up. to

00:26:28

take the issue of of of of as

00:26:31

you point out the stop the leaf of without that it

00:26:34

is there eh How can I tell you it has a kind

00:26:36

of it is rotten it is rusty and that

00:26:39

doesn't make any difference so you have to replace it. These

00:26:41

are generally domestic problems

00:26:45

than what they have brought with it has been

00:26:48

the increase in citizen unrest

00:26:52

because they say come here but if this man

00:26:54

is earning $1,000 per m and does nothing

00:26:56

the other is earning I don't know what issue

00:26:58

and does nothing Look at the issue of Cerro

00:27:00

Patacón Cerro Patacón burned It had a

00:27:04

burn five times in a month and Ask me

00:27:07

if they have called anyone here, I

00:27:10

even went to the doctor yesterday and they told me

00:27:13

that I had a respiratory problem

00:27:15

caused by Cerro Patacón Because I live

00:27:17

nearby So you can imagine

00:27:20

this type of discomfort that the people

00:27:23

of Cunan Neega experience for example And then

00:27:25

here it burns And the only thing we see and that it

00:27:27

burned again, the high heel Yes, but

00:27:29

what I want is to see who it was that

00:27:31

burned it, that you grab it,

00:27:34

process it and That obviously they put in a

00:27:36

mechanism of security to be able to because

00:27:38

not everyone can go in to do

00:27:39

high heels because if not tomorrow they will throw

00:27:41

some corpses there and those are the

00:27:44

situations that I feel that we have

00:27:46

fallen into ineffectiveness that is,

00:27:50

the system is saturated and the people you

00:27:53

take to The only thing those guys

00:27:55

saw was to wash,

00:27:58

eh, write a ticket, walk, but

00:28:01

they are not really qualified for a position and

00:28:05

they think that when they get to that

00:28:07

position, simply and plainly, they

00:28:09

have to put up with me for 5 years because I

00:28:11

wrote a ticket and I walked. in favor of a

00:28:14

candidate And then the rest of the country

00:28:16

goes to see what is going to happen,

00:28:18

the problem with the holes continues, the

00:28:20

lack of water, you have to go out to

00:28:22

bathe early Because at 8 in the

00:28:24

morning it leaves water, the issue of

00:28:26

transportation, the issue of security, and that's

00:28:29

where we go, and corruption, well, not to

00:28:32

mention, then these are things that I feel

00:28:35

have

00:28:37

absorbed us as citizens, and as

00:28:42

the citizen has rightly pointed out, there comes

00:28:45

a moment that says to I don't care

00:28:46

who

00:28:48

wins And suddenly I'm not going to go to

00:28:51

vote, which is a serious mistake because

00:28:54

those who take the

00:28:56

separate quota are won one by one and if,

00:29:00

unfortunately, people decide not to go.

00:29:03

vote for the problem that is going to happen, we are going to have to

00:29:06

repeat a lot of what they are doing. So

00:29:09

what is the situation is the

00:29:12

best, that's why I always tell

00:29:14

people if you feel happy with what

00:29:15

there is, leave it as it is, my personal I

00:29:19

'm not, let me explain, so I feel

00:29:22

that from that perspective we have to be

00:29:24

very clear, very very very very very

00:29:28

enlightened in this type of situation,

00:29:30

look for a solution.

00:29:33

Look for the living condition of

00:29:35

each of the citizens to improve a

00:29:37

health issue. There I saw. that they approved one

00:29:40

I was reading a one a section for

00:29:45

the transportation that is now going to cost

00:29:48

250 for the people of Chorrera to be able to

00:29:50

get to the city to hospital something like that

00:29:51

was what I understood or read so they are

00:29:55

situations that I wonder about But what

00:29:58

is it What we are doing On the other hand,

00:30:00

when we see the increase in the

00:30:02

minimum wage, they raise people 4 cents,

00:30:05

but they raise 800 cents for other

00:30:09

products. No one can go to the

00:30:11

supermarket anymore, so those are the

00:30:13

situations and how little they go when

00:30:15

they went with $100 to a supermarket or $50 to

00:30:19

a supermarket then you came with a

00:30:21

series of questions now you practically

00:30:23

get the empty cartridge that you also

00:30:25

have to buy because they

00:30:27

definitely do not give you any

00:30:29

alternative and the law that they approved deals

00:30:32

with this issue of biodiversity and

00:30:36

all the The issue turned out to be a way to

00:30:40

generate income for the

00:30:42

commercial establishments and here the deputies

00:30:45

left it like this, everything we have is

00:30:48

framed within the approval that

00:30:50

the deputies gave, what can we do

00:30:52

is the question that I tell you that I ask you,

00:30:55

Sorry, no, it's not The problem is that

00:30:58

this question has no answer here

00:31:00

Alfonso is that this is the bad thing,

00:31:02

we are not

00:31:04

facing an electoral tournament or a

00:31:06

situation here everything is being contaminated

00:31:09

everything is being contaminated everything everything everything

00:31:11

everything has been contaminated everything, then there

00:31:15

is no where, that is, the electoral process.

00:31:18

And you know what, let's not be either. I don't

00:31:21

want to be superficial. I think that at the

00:31:23

beginning of this government, I said it, the

00:31:25

internal party of the PRD was contaminating the

00:31:30

country. All the problems of the PRD were

00:31:32

contaminating the country. and they never stopped

00:31:34

doing it in 5 years and Well, there are the

00:31:38

problems of the PRD And how the

00:31:41

government entangled us in all that Look, I

00:31:44

give you the best example yesterday they left us again

00:31:47

in the black Lita of the

00:31:49

European Union I was in the room Alfonso, I

00:31:54

was in the room a few meters from the

00:31:56

Minister of Economy when he assured

00:31:58

that it was almost a fact that in February

00:32:01

we were going to leave the

00:32:04

lists because the work had been done

00:32:06

because it had been put up because it had gone

00:32:07

up and down that they had gone they had

00:32:09

came down they had talked to everyone

00:32:11

when I referred to the issue with the people

00:32:14

from the European Union here in Panama

00:32:16

they looked at me like that with a face of Are you sure

00:32:19

Because we haven't done things

00:32:23

there There I saw the reasons

00:32:26

eh play alive Well like always then

00:32:30

eh Yes in that thing that is incomprehensible for

00:32:34

the people but that affects them so much

00:32:37

and you see that there is no There is no

00:32:40

reaction we remain on the black list

00:32:42

and the other government goes to see what it does

00:32:44

Look at the next government Alfonso the

00:32:47

only thing What it lacks is that the buildings

00:32:50

have the floor so that it is a total

00:32:52

destruction. What it collects is the only thing it

00:32:55

lacks. I mean, now, now, I

00:33:00

can't tell you that this is like the end

00:33:01

of Mirilla Moscoso's government, this is

00:33:04

like the end of the dictatorship, you know.

00:33:05

The only thing missing is that we do not have

00:33:08

dollar circulation and the only thing

00:33:11

missing is that we already have people in an

00:33:12

embassy asking for asylum, which by the way,

00:33:15

why because you remember it because on

00:33:18

television at that time when they got

00:33:21

involved About 90 Cuban advisors from the

00:33:23

defense force in the house of the

00:33:25

Cuban ambassador gave him the salt

00:33:28

immediately when he sought asylum in I don't know

00:33:31

how many embassies here, they were

00:33:33

all given safe conduct immediately

00:33:35

Guillermo Endara personally gave them

00:33:38

the safe conduct that could have

00:33:41

kept him There was any amount of

00:33:43

time when a lot of people

00:33:44

wanted to exile Lucho Gómez and all those

00:33:46

people went to

00:33:50

Cuba and now no no and no no because I don't feel like it

00:33:55

Well because there are the

00:33:56

laws There are the treaties that we have

00:33:58

signed I mean I don't, he tells me no how

00:34:03

negative you are But what do you want me to

00:34:05

say if you want I'll talk about something else I

00:34:08

start talking

00:34:09

about how beautiful the street is with the

00:34:13

holes But at the end of the road

00:34:17

reality is hitting you in the

00:34:22

face look This is an issue that should

00:34:25

Call us to reflect as everyone else, I

00:34:28

reiterate, Guillermo, I am seeing

00:34:31

this type of

00:34:33

situation and I believe that the performance of the

00:34:37

Panamanian people has to be far

00:34:38

above the performance of the

00:34:40

electoral court in view of the next

00:34:42

elections. The

00:34:45

proposals that are being given

00:34:49

to all the candidates regarding the issues

00:34:52

that must be addressed are very generic proposals,

00:34:57

and obviously I feel that they do not touch or

00:35:01

land on the real problems

00:35:03

that they are going to encounter on day

00:35:05

1 when they come in to take or understand to take

00:35:08

office the president-elect of the

00:35:10

Republic of Panama, why because there

00:35:13

are many issues here, as you have pointed out,

00:35:15

there is an issue of the issue of water, the

00:35:20

issue of water from the Panama Canal, which is

00:35:22

our main source of income, the

00:35:25

issue of Cheers, the issue of the economy,

00:35:28

eh, anyway, a series of issues that I

00:35:32

feel have not been addressed,

00:35:35

including the issues of corruption,

00:35:38

obviously whoever gets to the position and there

00:35:40

can't be any here and don't

00:35:42

worry, I'm not going to touch you here

00:35:44

Unfortunately the person who arrives

00:35:47

when he sees how the

00:35:50

country was committed beyond 5 years and that

00:35:53

things that should have been done have not been done or

00:35:55

that actions were taken or there were omissions because the

00:35:59

actions are taken by action or omission

00:36:01

and these omissions have affected To the

00:36:05

Panamanian State the only explanation and the only

00:36:08

justification is jail. Here people

00:36:11

have to go to jail Guillermo

00:36:14

because otherwise whoever commits a

00:36:17

crime you have to keep it. I

00:36:18

share that criterion Why Because

00:36:20

then people believe that they live and here

00:36:22

No, no, I'm going to the ball. I arrive at the position.

00:36:24

Then when I arrive, I say to the one who is

00:36:27

there. Don't worry, I'm not going to

00:36:29

screw you over and then, eh, you're going to be

00:36:32

protected by me. We'll have a hard time.

00:36:35

Then probably the

00:36:37

new president's speech will go. If not, what

00:36:39

we want is to maintain

00:36:41

social tranquility. How are we not going to

00:36:43

maintain social tranquility? But the one

00:36:45

who committed an act of corruption in the

00:36:47

previous government is going to be investigated and

00:36:50

I hope the new attorney because the

00:36:52

attorney is the owner. which was eh How do I

00:36:57

tell you ratified And he took office

00:36:59

last week will be valid or his

00:37:02

term ends on December 31

00:37:04

So the new president must

00:37:06

appoint a lawyer who

00:37:09

is really independent a lawyer who

00:37:12

has that type of independence

00:37:16

that allows him to appeal to all

00:37:19

legal actions to search for the

00:37:21

crime and punish it And present it to

00:37:24

the judicial body before the

00:37:26

corresponding instance so that these

00:37:28

investigations are coherent and can

00:37:30

guarantee a positive result here

00:37:33

it cannot be that the one you arrive grabs eh

00:37:36

How do I tell you it drains the resources of the

00:37:39

state and absolutely nothing happens here, it

00:37:42

has touched on issues that really

00:37:44

concern us and that obviously the

00:37:46

population has to raise awareness of

00:37:48

this but with previous processes in an

00:37:51

electoral tournament that occur in the

00:37:54

sense of being zigzagging

00:37:58

first they talk to you Yes yes the date is going to

00:37:59

be this no no a series we made a mistake

00:38:02

well you are right but we are going to

00:38:04

correct that is a series of actions

00:38:07

that are questioned I believe that we

00:38:10

should not go there we have to be much

00:38:12

more focused much more direct and

00:38:15

really search the interest of the population

00:38:17

Alfonso fraguela Thank you for being with

00:38:19

us at this time of the morning I

00:38:20

send you a big hug and we will talk

00:38:22

next Wednesday God

00:38:24

through God That's how it will be Guillermo friends

00:38:28

thank you very much for the opportunity and I

00:38:29

invite you to continue in the gathering

00:38:32

Wednesday H hug see you later it was

00:38:34

the journalist, lawyer and former

00:38:36

Panamanian State Spokesperson Alfonso fraguela with

00:38:39

us like every Wednesday on the

00:38:40

són dan ancón we go to the break and

00:38:42

return in the morning ancón on

00:38:44

92.1 FM and radio ancon.com

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