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[music] I
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welcome you,
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the purpose of this format is to talk about different
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social groups in a light playful
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way, the topic of today's episode is faith, the
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two people sitting here are convinced atheists,
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the rest believe in their stranger, there
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is a son in the room, five
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of them are really
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representatives of the same group, but the two
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remaining are not the same who they pretend to be in
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each round, the participants answer a question
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related to their topic, after which, using the
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principle of playing mafia,
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they kick out the one whom the majority considered a
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deceiver.
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Briefly introduce yourself and tell us how
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you came to the faith.
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Hello, my name is Masha, I’m 18 years old,
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I was born into an Orthodox family, so
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when did it come? It’s time for me to choose whether to
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believe or not, I chose to believe
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because I couldn’t imagine my life and
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without it, is my name? I’m 18 years old. It’s a
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similar situation because my father and mother are
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believers in my family, I have Tula
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priests before the revolution, and that’s basically
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when I was going through puberty,
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you know, it’s common for people to
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oppose themselves to their parents, their ideas
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to take the opposite position, but
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somehow it was strange for me and it got around me, and then I’m a
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believer, my name is Bogdan, I’m
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not 27 years old, I’m a musician and a clown and I do
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theater,
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I can’t name it in the family directly
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religious, but they baptized me when I was
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still little, so there
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was no choice, so to speak, and
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then, probably due to my profession, I
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just began to treat the word faith
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completely differently and began to
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see some specific meanings in it
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and probably not so long ago I
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somehow came more consciously here kaveri
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if it’s clear told me my name is Anya
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I’m 22 years old
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it so happened that I was born
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abroad and my parents sent me to a
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private Catholic school I
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never took any questions created for myself
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until one
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big tragedy of mine, when
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my dad died under tragic circumstances,
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then I began to look for answers to the questions of
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why this happened and found precisely
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their flow in the holy scriptures of the Bible and in the
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word of God, and I still consider these
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to be the only ones; again, these are the
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questions
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that keep me in framework illuminates my
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future path, despite the fact that
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my name is Ilya, my parents did not immediately
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come to faith when he was already 40
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years old,
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why didn’t they come to
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faith, including because my appearance
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was a kind of miracle, as my mother
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was told that I wouldn’t have children, but
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my future godfather did not
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bless them to take the child from the orphanage,
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and as it turned out, when he didn’t communicate with him
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and I was already for it, I was
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programmed,
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my whole life was somehow structured in such a way
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that everything intersected with God and with faith and
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some small miracles happened in life, there
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were even moments in life when I
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seemed to have doubts, doubts in the north,
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but then I came back again, my
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name is Katya, I probably, like
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many here, grew up in an Orthodox
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family and I was also baptized as a child
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and then I began to think why don’t you ask
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me for a certain religion, they shoved me into a certain religion
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and I began to look, look, find out about
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other religions, I didn’t go to an Orthodox church for a very long time
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and one
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situation happened after which I realized that this is a
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religion that is close to me, understandably and
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probably not in vain it happened that since
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childhood I was assigned to her,
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my name is Vlad, in principle,
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in the same way, it came where asva
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since I was baptized, but
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situations really happened in which I
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understood that God exists, that I pray for a reason
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and, in fact, that’s why I believe the book
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you answered the question guess which
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of you is not who they say they are,
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I will refrain for now because all
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points of view seemed close and
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understandable to me, so it is difficult for me to say
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who I suspect,
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I will also refrain,
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but we are still playing as if and
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maybe it will sound stupid, but there is
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a feeling that your position is he the fact that
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you decided to put forward as an argument the fact that
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you have relatives and priests
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seemed to me somehow a little dry
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little passion for you wolf and jizz are
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n’t you in this sense among atheists as I
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read in books very such a
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mathematical mindset is probably my
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turn at first I thought about Vlad, but now
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I have strong arguments, it’s considered
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that you read Bogdan in a book about this and
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it seems to me that it really seems that
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you not only read this in books, I
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wouldn’t flog you yet fever, so I’ll
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refrain for now,
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forgive me, he also seems to me that it’s you
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because somehow the answer was
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short enough and I don’t know or don’t hook me,
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they reproached you for your dryness, Bogdan
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said about the fact that I have a
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mathematical mindset again to believe in God to
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man, his mentality mathematically is
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somewhat disturbing, and among people of science,
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physicists and biologists, mathematicians, there are
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enough people who believe floor,
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I believe everyone in fact, but even somehow the
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game needs to go to sleep and I will make a choice
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against Bogdan,
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I don’t even know, I can only tell you
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some- then the stories that I don’t know
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amazed me that they happened to me
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just recently
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and he I just returned from a
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pilgrimage route to salt and I went
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to Spain on the way of St. James,
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we came across a lot of different churches
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and on one of them there was this the letter
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of the bell from one bell was hanging
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such a chain I just couldn’t
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resist finding the mountains
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ringing the bell you were allowed there
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was no one there two abandoned church
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dancing video that is, it’s such a mountain
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path and there’s no one I did it and you do
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n’t even know security guards active or
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inactive yes this is just a completely
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abandoned church
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if I helped you understand that my
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relationship to faith is very specific
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voting time by raising your hand
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vote against one of the
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nominated people is he Bogdan
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[music]
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Bogdan please show your card
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unfortunately you just made a mistake
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to me it seemed that it was too much, but
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who really as such is only ours,
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you convince him of his emotions and this is the only thing
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that I associate with faith guys,
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tell me then what
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God Pamela, let's move on to the next
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question: should religion be part of the
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school curriculum of the
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villas, let's start with you, depending on what subject
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you have if the teacher is a religious scholar,
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this is not how they differ from taxes and
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theology, a religious scholar looks at
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religions in their entirety, does it soberly
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and unbiased, so I am here for
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such a sober, dry approach, even though I am a
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believer, there should be no such thing
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that children are forced to teach and teach through
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prayer at home people like religion, after all,
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I had a catechism class as a
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child, I had the opportunity to learn about different
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religions and exactly what they
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differ about, and just for example, it
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helped me, as it were, to come up with a religion
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that, how to say, I adhere to, it
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broadens the
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horizons of little ones children of
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small souls, therefore, only just
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behind the body, I studied at the Orthodox gymnasium, I have already
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graduated, I actually saw what it is
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when a person is forced to really
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learn some crisis details,
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who considers himself a believer, yes, but if
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a person is just thinking about slowly
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approaching, taking some examples from
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the Bible on, for example, well, and Page’s
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upbringing of the person himself, that is, I don’t
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know, well, here’s how they were taken from there, Jesus
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Christ said, and if you want
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people to do the same to you, do the same to them,
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that is, it’s moments like these, don’t
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take it out of the blue, and we
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little by little I will talk to myself, it
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turned out that I have a wonderful
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godfather who would take care of my
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spiritual education in childhood, took
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me to church, took me to communion, there is
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some kind of love for this, it
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seems to me that the task of the spiritual parents of
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godparents and they should do this to inculcate and at
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school
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I would definitely include in the curriculum the
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history of religion and an introduction to the Bible
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because most works of
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art are based on biblical stories
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and it’s like an educated person,
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but it seems to me that he should know this,
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although I’m a believer, I think that in
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principle with childhood, but it is not
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necessary for people to know the history of religion, something
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else, I believe that a person, in principle,
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should choose it himself,
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perhaps on the advice of parents, on
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stories of some kind, but
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this should not be mandatory,
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I also studied at an Orthodox gymnasium and
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ours was based on the basic culture,
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I really liked it,
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and then I moved to the
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medical class in high school in a regular school;
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inappropriate jokes were always a little
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offensive to me and therefore I
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would like there to be some kind of
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subject that would explain
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what feelings believers have,
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why they they believe and in general why do they
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need it and then they themselves have to make a
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choice whether they accept it or not because
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the slave is not the gods he is nicknamed but to give them
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some knowledge it seems to me that it would be
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logical and so you heard each
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other’s opinion guess and who is giving themselves away for
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a believer and how, first of all, I don’t see Katya
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the cross, well, because I just flew
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by the sea and swam and I didn’t lose it in vain, I
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just put it on again, well, I don’t
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think it’s necessary, the dentist
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definitely found out that there are 2 people here
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who are hiding what well, okay, well,
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okay, I’m still just
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some very short, dry answers,
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and I don’t want to say something is said from the
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dryness of the soul, it speaks about dryness, all
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knowledge, as it seems to me,
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because of the fact that I was always
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brought up from childhood, what an Orthodox person
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wears in ourselves
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lower lending let us
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separate what believers are and what is
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like you are completely religious like or I don’t
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know I agree it seems to me that these are different
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things a little but you read prayers at
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night no I don’t read is he not reading
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the prayers it is necessary and the previous unclean one I
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visit I visit churches it’s not every
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weekend oh well that’s why let’s
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say then that the cross is fear is
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the basis
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yes well it also seems to me that it was you who
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somehow spoke out very vehemently against
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them they were no one at school while someone very much I
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jumped on this neither words against I’m tired,
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tired for everyone to choose
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Katya, and the fact that you finished your
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coolness for some reason it seems to me that it’s
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Katya because well, I just
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saw Vlad’s chain, I don’t know we’re wearing pants, I’m
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especially wearing those ones, it doesn’t seem like it’s 5 a
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you can read the gospel in all questions, no,
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it means that an Orthodox person must also have
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knowledge of Chinese, what are you
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signing up for, as it were, you are called
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simply, but you know, tell me,
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someone here studies in religious schools, the name is
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lyceums, well, you know some, you soon have
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interesting names, honestly I I don’t know
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at all the name you
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say, but that doesn’t stop me from
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believing in God and knowing that he’s not
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helping to thank him for this
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voting time
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[music]
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Ekaterina
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[music]
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Vladislav Vladislav
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please show your card
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forgive you as if I were believers and a cross
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I have a good game in my pocket,
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look for the mafia from the left, how does faith help you, let's
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start with you when I pray, it seems to me
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that I am damned personally, I sit one step closer to the
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lost person,
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I feel that we are with an English man
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next to me where helps like
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many for people
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to restrain themselves in many situations
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such as irritation and anger, in general, to put it simply,
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to restrain their passions, for me the
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most important thing is faith
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is when my soul is just in place, not
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faith helps,
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if I may say so, then in the desire
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probably for love and
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some kind of purity and this Some kind of my
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highest goal is to love chips and
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it seems to me that everything is yes, I completely agree
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with Ilya, it’s
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very difficult, I take it to bestow and keep
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myself in rank within the framework, sometimes even
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this starts to irritate you because
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pride doesn’t go away, why
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should I owe my sins Prime tells there
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Why should I constantly
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limit myself at the same time and I need fasting
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to somehow keep myself within limits and at the
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same time be spiritually enriched, so I can’t
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imagine my life without faith
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prayer and faith helps your
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soul spiritually the dates of the first you can and
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can pray and come to a state of
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such exaltation to inspire
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future laziness, faith should not come from
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selfish egoism and self-love, and
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the desire to somehow help yourself in something to
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break through should come from
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selfless, simple love for God,
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you can nominate candidates, it’s very difficult to
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actually say, well I would have thought
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maybe in the direction of Katya, but because the
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last explanation right
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now in this round was about sincere love for
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everything, such a pure path, but
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somehow I have a little feeling, so the most
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important commandment that would give is yes,
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love each other and not everything and everyone I have
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then will have to turn against you
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bears this question in general passed on the
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occasion there helped in the temple of the cross and because of
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all this, it seems to me that
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either he simply because I’m almost
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sure in the last round I also voted
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for Katish then what to poke and I
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have no doubt about you two that this is the
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meat and about the cash register his
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exception is noticeable so as not to offend why I’ll
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step like gentlemen Frosi
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voting time
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Maria Lee he
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Ekaterina I’m very sorry I think that
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faith but here if I want to wear a cross
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and I think that this is my beret, I will
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wear it if I dream so much, I would not
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wear it. Do you think fair
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laws are an insult to the feelings of believers or do
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I not insult anyone at all and people should not be
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insulted simply because he is
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such a person and that’s all for that reason? I
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’ll have to say that it probably does
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exist, but the punishment is the punishment for
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it by putting a person behind bars,
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but it’s complete nonsense that they’re
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breaking out into apartments there, in my opinion, because
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of these, which bypassed the
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anti-religious ones, of course, but
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I’ll say that this law didn’t appear just
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like that, because apparently there are people
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who are very strongly opposed
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to believers, so he probably
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appeared, but I agree, I will warm up that I do
00:19:25
n’t think that these people should be put in
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prison there for memes or for some jokes,
00:19:32
because then it would just be half of
00:19:34
our population conclusions in prison, but
00:19:37
at least this is not Christian, then I already
00:19:40
believe that a true believer Orthodox
00:19:42
person will never be offended by any
00:19:45
insult, a repressive law that simply
00:19:48
contradicts even the Bible itself, you can
00:19:51
blame a person for anything and formally
00:19:55
tie it to this specific article and
00:19:57
I mean, this is a way of imprisoning undesirable people
00:19:59
very freely,
00:20:02
it’s terrible, and indeed the
00:20:05
scriptures say, as it were, in principle, one’s
00:20:10
attitude towards the enemy,
00:20:11
but not paying attention to what it means not to be
00:20:13
offended and to insult is not to
00:20:15
pay attention, in fact, inaction, since I’m
00:20:18
sure I completely agree with
00:20:20
Ilya that you shouldn’t insult anyone at all,
00:20:22
I would definitely get a fine, not just a
00:20:25
fine, but the hotel villa would have some
00:20:27
kind of punishment for insulting the feelings of
00:20:30
any people on the planet because
00:20:33
well, I think in my
00:20:36
value system that it’s a sin of humility in this
00:20:38
situation on the one hand, this is
00:20:40
really for someone, maybe this
00:20:42
will be the path to the truth, on the other
00:20:45
hand, this is again humility and
00:20:46
inaction, I am against this, you answered the
00:20:49
question, now propose candidates
00:20:52
for relegation [music]
00:20:55
I can’t even guess me and she
00:21:01
will abstain voting is also very
00:21:04
difficult, I didn’t think that
00:21:09
atheists would hide well, it’s probably
00:21:12
because
00:21:14
people who are educated enough for an hour
00:21:16
read this story, it seems to me that it’s
00:21:21
my voice, maybe
00:21:26
I don’t really know, and it seems to me
00:21:29
so many convincing answers are
00:21:34
probably still in favor of Masha, that is,
00:21:37
against ours
00:21:45
Maria
00:21:46
[music]
00:21:49
Lyon
00:21:54
Maria show your card
00:21:59
[music]
00:22:03
you were mistaken
00:22:04
and this means in today's game believers
00:22:07
will defeat failures for Maria
00:22:09
who do you think is a deceiver is he and they
00:22:15
you the truth is it or palms this is a fish this
00:22:18
screen at the expense of oneself this is generally a
00:22:20
danchik of his supposedly last thought that you
00:22:23
I thought you were with me it so happened that I
00:22:25
studied at a Catholic school, well, when the
00:22:28
slightly heartbreaking story was cut off, it
00:22:30
really happened,
00:22:32
well then I renounced the faith, I realized
00:22:34
that for myself I decided that in my
00:22:38
view of the world, God does not exist
00:22:40
because he could not such an oak could not
00:22:43
allow this to happen, this is true because
00:22:45
my dad was an incredibly smart man,
00:22:47
he was very revered and in order to
00:22:51
support myself every day I don’t pray,
00:22:54
I read translation theory
00:22:57
I’m also a veterinarian, and then I don’t have a
00:23:02
science and for myself I find answers in it
00:23:05
that are contrasted
00:23:08
best of all with the fact that God
00:23:13
couldn’t allow this to happen in reality, but it’s
00:23:14
very split or the moments are
00:23:17
very personal for me to Christina in very
00:23:22
Orthodox town until 2010, we
00:23:25
all believed that a person, due to the
00:23:31
limitations of his capabilities, is not
00:23:34
able to know that the prince is ident on
00:23:37
and even if she is somewhere out there does not exist in
00:23:39
some other dimensions, I am not an
00:23:43
atheist, I am rather an agnostic, I was very
00:23:46
interesting to communicate thank you
00:23:49
today thanks to you we are convinced that
00:23:52
faith is a delicate personal issue everyone
00:23:55
has the right to choose
00:23:57
which religion to follow or not
00:24:00
to adhere to it at all thanks for the game
00:24:03
[applause]

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