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kill leviathan and other books and woe00:00:03
cord nko buy in the00:00:06
bookstore and day link in the video description00:00:10
[music]00:00:13
[applause]00:00:16
good afternoon my name is and as far as00:00:19
our guest is the game shnyr he is an expert in the00:00:21
field of artificial intelligence and00:00:23
high technology hello gear00:00:24
Anatoly live, at the end of October00:00:27
there was a presentation of Facebook at which it00:00:30
was announced that it was renamed to meta00:00:32
at the conference a colorful presentation was shown the00:00:34
main theme of which is what00:00:37
the future will be and the corresponding slogan00:00:39
the future will be created by us according to the00:00:42
founder of the social network we are trying to00:00:44
go beyond the smartphone screens00:00:46
beyond framework that faces people00:00:48
Super Berg spoke about the possibility in the00:00:51
digital space of the meta universe, according to00:00:54
him, the physical digital world and00:00:56
should unite into the meta universe00:00:58
Zuckerberg is betting on virtual00:01:00
reality in which users can00:01:01
immerse themselves in the digital world with the help of00:01:03
special glasses and on new00:01:05
augmented reality technology which00:01:07
superimposes digital objects on the real00:01:08
field of view of the user, this is the utopia00:01:11
that Zuckerberg is building, it00:01:13
actually resembles the game sims ii in which,00:01:16
as it were, which actually00:01:18
turns out to be because we will00:01:20
move in a 3d world and in which all00:01:24
objects will be virtual will also be00:01:26
carried out meetings will be held there in00:01:27
candlelight, not only official ones00:01:29
for work as they are forced to do now,00:01:30
but also meetings of friends you plan to00:01:32
hold in this middle of reality the entire00:01:34
Internet plan to download make it 3d here is00:01:36
how in my opinion this00:01:38
affects society and how much it00:01:41
will put it under control Facebook or00:01:44
any other00:01:47
government structures, but I think that here00:01:50
we are, even now we are not able00:01:52
to realize how large-scale00:01:56
the experiment is being carried out by Facebook and00:01:58
how deep the real00:02:01
transformations have been, not just in society00:02:04
but also in the person himself. To be00:02:06
honest, I was00:02:11
really amazed the scale of00:02:14
Zuckerberg's proposals,00:02:15
well, what is this expressed in, let me00:02:19
explain, that is, firstly, if we00:02:22
even take the name itself meter meter00:02:25
universe metaphors and how00:02:29
the method is used, just up to this point and also going00:02:32
beyond is to carry beyond this00:02:35
in Greek as this means, and00:02:38
in general, a person in his essence, he00:02:41
always goes beyond his limits, he simply00:02:44
cannot live otherwise because he is inferior to00:02:48
animals in a variety of qualities, yes, he runs00:02:51
slower than animals, he runs there, yes,00:02:54
they are not so strong, and so on, and00:02:57
therefore for in order to simply survive, he00:02:59
must necessarily go beyond himself, which00:03:02
means somehow coming up with something, and00:03:05
this quality is now00:03:09
inherent in a person, he simply privatizes00:03:14
in fact before appropriating the company00:03:17
Facebook, that is, and look at the choice of the00:03:21
important moment when this00:03:24
happens, that is, he announced at the end of00:03:26
October just this presentation was here00:03:29
and after this cycle all some00:03:31
videos in English began to come out and00:03:35
he said that in about a00:03:38
year within a year they will begin to00:03:41
roll out specific products already within the00:03:44
framework of this meta-universe and he00:03:47
said that00:03:48
we have invested many billions of dollars there00:03:51
and in the beginning, while we are building up an00:03:55
audience to the public, it will all be either00:03:59
free or for very little money,00:04:02
they will attract00:04:04
people there, and we will look around to see00:04:08
what is going on in the world at this time At00:04:11
this time, a digital concentration camp is being formed in the world in an hour,00:04:13
which will be00:04:16
in a year, well, it will take some form, that00:04:19
is, it is now clear that now we live in00:04:22
general, the whole world, in principle, in a00:04:25
state of such an undeclared00:04:27
state of emergency when there is no law,00:04:29
when laws change every 15 days there00:04:33
until every week until00:04:35
they announce it then then there you can’t go there you ca00:04:38
n’t go there that is, in general, the concept00:04:40
of law, yes, this is when a person knows that00:04:43
he woke up tomorrow and what he can00:04:46
do, what he can’t do, they are what they00:04:48
tell him there like that, yes and here he00:04:51
lives in this, first of all, fears in this in00:04:53
this epidemic of fear that is00:04:55
spreading up to and he lives in what means00:04:59
uncertainty about the future, he lives00:05:02
in a situation of constant restrictions00:05:05
of some kind until they go he will live just another00:05:09
year and people will be ready for00:05:11
everything for everything up to in the real world the real00:05:15
world for him will be completely fenced off with00:05:18
red flags everything will be banned00:05:21
he don’t go there don’t go here don’t go here it’s needed it00:05:24
means Ausweiss is needed here there’s something else there00:05:28
and00:05:29
if you don’t do this you00:05:32
won’t get anything there and so on, yes, that is, the00:05:34
real world is full, the world is full of problems,00:05:38
and here the virtual world rolls out,00:05:42
this one, where there is complete freedom, where00:05:46
everything is possible, where you can go beyond the limits, where00:05:48
you can play together, work together,00:05:52
what does Zuckerberg say advertises,00:05:55
and where is00:05:57
your personality no one is holding you back00:05:59
please develop here for you in we give00:06:02
you the tools so that you00:06:05
create an avatar so that you00:06:08
connect in parallel you connect00:06:11
sensors as if they are probing you,00:06:15
by the way he told me it’s very interesting what00:06:18
will allow you to look for00:06:22
such things that will be there possible, yes, for00:06:25
example, yes, you enter the room, they00:06:28
will have glasses there to say special00:06:31
before it’s already developed, you enter the room00:06:34
and00:06:35
you’re just00:06:38
thinking about how you want to drink it,00:06:42
just thinking about it and a dot already00:06:45
shows you where the glass is before, that is, right00:06:48
here straight on these glasses there, yes, here is the00:06:51
glass, that is, and this is what it means,00:06:55
this means that they read your thoughts,00:06:57
in fact, read them before00:07:00
reaching a conclusion, this means that you are, in general,00:07:03
under a complete hood, that is, that00:07:05
everything is completely with you, as if all impulses00:07:08
are analyzed and calculated before00:07:10
they are accepted and00:07:14
it turns out that quietly quietly, as if on00:07:18
the sly, full control is being introduced,00:07:21
it’s not just even it’s not even00:07:23
comparable to mobile communications, it’s not for nothing that he00:07:26
says Zuckerberg in his presentation that00:07:30
this is the next stage after mobile with00:07:33
mobile communications and here,00:07:35
in fact, instead so that you00:07:39
have this phone in your hand, which is there as an adviser to you, a00:07:41
friend, a communicator,00:07:45
there to the organizers, etc., yes,00:07:48
you yourself become this mobile00:07:51
phone, in fact, that is, it turns out that00:07:54
you are this device, this00:07:57
gadget that00:08:00
emits certain impulses, which is00:08:02
connected to other gadgets and but we’ll00:08:05
talk again, I feel like you want to ask a question00:08:08
about what this is and what00:08:11
it actually means for a person, in00:08:13
fact, I just wanted to add some00:08:16
formation about the fact that here we are will allow you to00:08:18
save data on the movement of the00:08:20
eyeballs and the blink of your gaze like this since you00:08:23
spoke to any object and there00:08:25
to calculate the body language of the movement of the hand, all00:08:27
this will be recorded and postponed to the00:08:29
server memory party and all this you will then00:08:32
use not only to00:08:34
suggest something, it will be necessary as00:08:37
part of the sale of something, so he knows what do00:08:39
you often think about this, you don’t even bother00:08:41
asking like now or talk about00:08:42
it with friends as usual I hear the phone00:08:44
and you think about it and they00:08:46
automatically offer you something and00:08:48
deliberately shove it in you00:08:51
don’t know, but now I’ll tell you something00:08:53
that, well I haven’t heard from anyone and I think,00:08:56
but I think that this is essentially their00:09:00
basic idea, and by the way, they00:09:03
really cherish such00:09:05
insights and, as it were, basic ideas, you00:09:09
know that, for example, why00:09:11
Julian Assange was persecuted so much when the00:09:16
British began to simply say that there to this day and will keep him00:09:19
in prison there, yes, because it turns00:09:22
out that in the end he went to00:09:25
Google and he became interested in actively00:09:29
collecting information and how Google00:09:31
uses the collected information,00:09:33
that was kind of the main thing, and00:09:38
he just talked about this at a meeting in at the00:09:41
Ecuadorian00:09:42
embassy where he lived for many years before the00:09:45
Italian philosopher George Agam00:09:47
Ben came there and talked to Assange and he then00:09:50
shared this conversation with Agam Ben, that00:09:53
is, Assange told him that the problem was00:09:56
that he had become too interested in00:09:58
the activities of Google, but this is how he would00:10:01
understand he really looks like, well,00:10:03
that is, wikileaks, we remember and a lot of00:10:05
information, but it all becomes outdated then00:10:08
a letter of some kind of correspondence Merkel00:10:11
Tomsk Linton yes, well, of course it’s all important00:10:14
and interesting, but after five years00:10:16
no one even remembers what it’s about00:10:19
it was that’s why, but to say that00:10:21
this father of Assange would have been imprisoned, he would have00:10:23
already been in jail, but no, because he00:10:26
began to check really real things, he00:10:29
got out to look, so00:10:33
I still think for life, it’s like he’s00:10:36
in a village and he knows something such that -he00:10:39
understands, so returning to what is00:10:42
happening now on Facebook, here is also00:10:44
a project, it is probably even more global00:10:46
than what Google is doing, well, because in00:10:51
general I am working to create00:10:55
general artificial intelligence as they00:10:58
want, that is, that supercomputer00:11:01
before which will be in being able00:11:05
to solve multifunctional problems on his own,00:11:09
make decisions, and so on,00:11:11
what he doesn’t have and what we haven’t been able to get even close to now is00:11:13
one of the main problems00:11:16
in this, yes, this problem of consciousness is00:11:21
the problem of the fact that, well, no00:11:23
matrix algorithms can reproduce00:11:28
human consciousness and human00:11:30
consciousness in general from the point of view of00:11:32
computer science, cognitive science, it00:11:35
seems meaningless, useless, that is, yes,00:11:37
there is such a concept, philosophical00:11:40
zombies, this is the kind of thought00:11:43
experiment that a person who00:11:46
behaves like me says like me, then00:11:49
everything is absolutely outwardly all the same,00:11:53
does the same actions and conditioned by00:11:56
some historical00:11:59
genetic reasons and so on, but at the00:12:02
same time I don’t feel or00:12:05
perceive anything, I don’t think, that is, they just00:12:09
go purely, I have a00:12:12
certain reaction to brain impulses, a00:12:17
neuron sends me a brain there00:12:19
the impulse says, raise your hand there,00:12:22
then I’ll say it there, yes, and this is00:12:24
all happening, but I don’t understand, I do00:12:27
n’t realize, I don’t look at myself from the outside, I don’t realize00:12:30
myself as a person, as a single00:12:33
whole, there, and that’s just what modern science believes00:12:36
like this is cognitive00:12:39
science, which I consider very flawed, in00:12:42
fact, they believe that this is not00:12:45
necessary, that in fact, 10 is necessary,00:12:47
you can get by, and it is not clear why this is00:12:50
even present in a person, and this00:12:53
problem even exists in the term of the00:12:56
Canadian philosopher Chalmers,00:12:59
which means nouvel such hard00:13:03
problems in contrast, that is, a complex00:13:07
problem of consciousness, that is, he just00:13:12
believed that there is an easy problem of consciousness,00:13:15
but all sorts of our feelings are00:13:19
what we experience and this can00:13:21
really be traced to the reasons to find in the00:13:24
brain some kind of hide impulses that00:13:27
lead us to the expression of emotions there and00:13:30
so on, yes, but the very fact that we00:13:33
are aware of ourselves00:13:34
is that he named complex problems and we do00:13:38
n’t solve them, they don’t and look, this is what00:13:40
happens, just what I’m leading to, it’s just00:13:44
very interesting about this, how a sprout00:13:45
today thought everything and with this is the00:13:48
comet of the Zuckerberg universe that they are00:13:51
actually organizing a giant00:13:53
experiment to create00:13:56
consciousness, that is, the00:14:00
main thing they want is to00:14:02
create in a person who is00:14:07
connected to their universe this meta-00:14:10
universe of00:14:11
sensations is what they call presence00:14:14
presence and00:14:16
at the same time presence means just that00:14:20
what a person experiences is all this00:14:22
they will record and it will be00:14:24
millions of hundreds of millions there are00:14:27
then billions of people and00:14:29
such a collective consciousness and the00:14:32
consciousness of everyone and this will all be00:14:35
recorded in real time00:14:37
in00:14:40
some actions will be performed in this case it00:14:42
will be like would be a mixture of00:14:45
this virtual world and the real one, and00:14:48
just like he said, they focused on00:14:51
precisely the00:14:53
feeling of such a presence that a00:14:56
person should be in the virtual world,00:14:58
he should nevertheless live00:15:01
like we are talking now in 3D,00:15:03
see00:15:05
some distance and so on, yes, that00:15:07
is, but to feel quite like this, just00:15:10
like in reality, yes,00:15:14
but at the same time not to be in reality, and that’s00:15:17
what00:15:20
all participants in this universe are aware of,00:15:23
will be recorded, will be compared with00:15:26
behavior, and certain models will be built00:15:30
on the basis of which artificial00:15:32
intelligence then there are neural networks that00:15:35
will continuously work on00:15:38
everything, yes they will film it all and00:15:40
will try to make some kind of model00:15:43
that can be repeated in order to be00:15:46
able to synthesize, create this00:15:50
human consciousness and thereby solve00:15:53
the problem in which they are all struggling that's00:15:56
what and why do they need this why create00:15:58
with the knowledge of the topic given for drowning00:16:00
create artificial consciousness this00:16:03
means solving this problem the complex00:16:06
problem of consciousness this means creating a00:16:09
general artificial intelligence which00:16:11
instantly but as such a philosopher00:16:15
Bostrom showed, it will instantly00:16:18
advance and smarter than a person in in all00:16:20
respects, everything and everything at once will magically00:16:23
change, essentially the end of00:16:25
the world will come, that is, when all power passes00:16:29
to this super intellect and00:16:34
this technological singularity00:16:35
of which they dream comes, when this00:16:39
super computer can do everything and naturally00:16:42
fix the floor, people will already be like ants00:16:44
this is what will happen immediately after this,00:16:47
that is, they are going towards this and someone is00:16:50
controlling this, in fact, they want00:16:53
such00:16:54
crazy scientists who just00:16:56
like to do this simply and in order to00:16:58
do it, or there are some other00:17:01
forces behind this state because now00:17:04
there is a lot of pressure on Facebook and, as it were,00:17:06
a look at what they want, he just kind of00:17:09
returned the ass so that he would do everything that he00:17:12
should do there, seize00:17:13
control and start controlling everything00:17:15
ourselves, maybe he made a friend a lot,00:17:19
so how to understand and why not to this00:17:21
strive and who strives for this, that00:17:23
is, but if you just talk to00:17:27
almost any computer00:17:30
scientist, cognitive scientist, here’s a boat, and00:17:33
this applies to both Russians and00:17:36
Americans, and00:17:38
it’s a commonplace that they will all practically00:17:41
speak openly now, before they seemed to be00:17:44
hiding a little more, now they00:17:47
everyone openly says that the universe is a00:17:49
big computer, we just, well, some00:17:52
of them say that you already00:17:55
know how it works, others say that00:17:57
we don’t know how it works yet, it still00:18:00
means a computer and they also believe that a person,00:18:03
but in some way in a sense, it is also similar to00:18:07
the universe and he is part and therefore he is also a00:18:11
computer and so they just consider00:18:14
this a common place for everyone, that is, this is00:18:17
something that00:18:20
moves Zuckerberg and there are all the scientists00:18:24
who seem to have gathered with him and there is00:18:27
Google and here00:18:29
the rulers these are all digital platforms00:18:33
and the political puppets that depend on them,00:18:35
yes,00:18:37
they all think that the leg of the puppet, no matter00:18:41
how we will not consider them,00:18:42
because they believe that what they give to the politicians00:18:46
depends on the price of the turnover,00:18:50
of course, of course you can see this, but in00:18:53
American politics this It’s clearly00:18:54
visible00:18:55
there, it’s not politicians who have been moving for centuries,00:19:00
on the contrary, of course00:19:02
they are you, they brought this team to power,00:19:05
Biden’s choristers, here and00:19:09
before google, yes, but now what’s00:19:12
happening,00:19:14
but when you don’t understand the pressure, I don’t think it’s00:19:18
pressure, this kind of circus is theater before00:19:21
which is played out in00:19:24
the arena and but this is visible because I00:19:27
watch when Zuckerberg is called there00:19:31
for some hearings, what does it mean he00:19:34
begins to make excuses there, people are00:19:36
pleased to see what a rich man is00:19:38
making excuses for, and it’s like he’s such a00:19:41
boy, supposedly a whipping boy, and there all the time00:19:44
in the headlines that he’s being fried there,00:19:47
someone should have burned a long time ago, but00:19:50
here we are, on October 28th he came out to make this00:19:54
presentation of the meta-universe, he00:19:56
looks great, he’s such a young man, he00:20:00
doesn’t look like I’m being fried, but of course there00:20:03
are some difficulties there because he’s like00:20:06
Zuckerberg Well, just recently, before00:20:10
the elections,00:20:13
in the last years of00:20:15
Trump’s reign, the00:20:20
strictly Soros structures were very strong, that is, they00:20:22
organized companies in the press against00:20:27
Zuckerberg against Facebook, in00:20:30
particular in the New York Times before00:20:33
Zuckerberg tried to stop it because of this, by the way, there00:20:36
was even some warming between00:20:39
Zuckerberg and00:20:41
Trump at some point because00:20:45
Zuckerberg, of course, was very angry with the00:20:48
constant attacks of Soros and his people’s00:20:51
structures and not on himself, but this is such00:20:54
a feud that in fact is not,00:20:57
well, not not the key not the key, but what kind of00:21:01
conflict arose why made an00:21:03
attack on them, is Sarah working on00:21:05
some kind of numbers, technology, well, it’s00:21:08
purely apparently all the same, as I understand00:21:11
from these also pr for political00:21:13
reasons because the Democratic00:21:16
Party, which is also largely controlled,00:21:18
but to say they are participating in this before the00:21:21
Soros structure because they are very00:21:24
active, by the way, in the New York Times,00:21:27
this is just a newspaper, the truth for the00:21:31
Democratic Party is the00:21:34
leading organs and through it, a00:21:37
lot is expressed there by the Saratov00:21:39
structures, so they needed to show00:21:42
that they are fighting big capital, that00:21:45
big capital is a wiki figure and00:21:48
there were just a lot of publications that00:21:51
something needs to be done, these00:21:53
companies need to be broken up, so Facebook needs to be00:21:56
cut off, you need to say00:21:59
disconnected there like that, that’s all, yes, they00:22:01
were constantly writing about it, but when00:22:04
the elections were held, they stopped writing about it00:22:07
completely, that is, I’m like I would00:22:09
regularly read the New York Times, this00:22:12
topic has disappeared and all the elections have passed, that’s why00:22:16
this is such a00:22:17
political move, that is, who is behind it,00:22:21
but it’s clear, of course, it’s not the only00:22:24
person named Zuckerberg, it’s clear00:22:27
that yes, and he doesn’t own it even most00:22:32
of the shares of his company there, I don’t00:22:34
know how much he has, 10-12 percent of00:22:36
shares, but of course not that much, so00:22:40
it’s all controlled by different financial00:22:42
structures00:22:43
about which it’s difficult for us to even talk about00:22:46
because they deliberately confuse the tracks so00:22:50
that it’s impossible to00:22:53
really imagine who owns what and who00:22:56
belongs to whom, and therefore00:22:59
it is clear that there are these00:23:01
complex chains of command, looking for chains of command there and so00:23:06
on, but in general, of course, you can00:23:09
see that, well, conditionally,00:23:12
very conditionally, the globalists, and there who00:23:18
are planning to arrange this within the limits of00:23:23
everything world to a digital concentration camp,00:23:27
reduce people to the position of slaves,00:23:30
they of course00:23:32
are rolling out this meta universe for00:23:36
well, firstly, in principle, for everyone who00:23:39
can00:23:40
go there with this, it’s like a kind of drug00:23:44
shelter, the opportunity00:23:47
to spend time there by the way, it’s interesting00:23:51
that in all presentations it is implied00:23:54
that a person who lives in this meta-00:23:57
universe, he lives there all the time,00:23:59
basically, that is, he is there, he kind of00:24:02
does everything there, because it also allows you to00:24:05
walk there in the real world, just00:24:08
add there, and it’s interesting that00:24:11
your house, here it magically turns00:24:16
into something outside another thing, that is,00:24:20
these00:24:23
gadgets and a program from an00:24:27
augmented reality application, they00:24:31
will make a completely different design out of your house,00:24:34
but it will be an imaginary design,00:24:37
but you will feel it as real, that00:24:40
is, and you will walk as if you were in your00:24:42
house, whatever here you have a fountain00:24:46
splashing there, but in fact it00:24:48
could be some 14-meter00:24:52
New York apartment in a basement with no00:24:54
windows, but I guess it won’t00:24:58
make it any less, and as if the apartment is God’s work,00:25:00
they will strive to ensure that to bring00:25:02
your sensations00:25:03
closer00:25:05
means that water flows there so that it00:25:09
seems to you that I think that they are like this, the00:25:11
human psyche will withstand such an00:25:14
experiment, this is an experiment in which00:25:18
billions of people will take part, and since now we have00:25:21
reached the era of experiments, here00:25:25
you can, by the way, in Facebook has been00:25:29
doing experiments on people for a long time,00:25:32
that is,00:25:34
they are sort of like emotional00:25:39
excitement, some00:25:41
kind of launching of some00:25:43
specific stories,00:25:47
let’s say some horror stories or something, and00:25:51
they track the reaction there, how people00:25:54
secretly, this is all how they behave after00:25:56
that Yes, they have been working on such00:26:00
things since they started there in the00:26:04
tenth year, as it were, and now it’s just00:26:07
such a large-scale experiment00:26:09
when this is a huge global00:26:13
neural network and we must not forget, by the way, that it00:26:16
works on Facebook, for example, yes, I’m00:26:22
not the creator of the convolutional00:26:25
neural network but one of the leading00:26:32
cognitive scientists in the world, the creator of00:26:36
actually the basic00:26:39
neural networks on which00:26:42
artificial intelligence systems work all over the world,00:26:44
he heads the Facebook laboratory, and00:26:47
many others work there as well,00:26:49
and there are hundreds of people there,00:26:54
as if right now they are intensively writing00:26:56
these codes by which people will00:26:59
receive these sensations and live, and here I00:27:05
must say that it is also very interesting, but00:27:08
when a person begins to live in such a00:27:11
reality, a mixture of a00:27:13
mixture of virtual reality and real00:27:17
reality, his attitude00:27:19
towards reality will change, so when we00:27:23
allow Well, I don’t play00:27:26
games there, but some kind of memory was still00:27:29
preserved when you were there, let’s say, sitting00:27:31
on the computer for a long time, but in the 90s it00:27:34
seems to me like some kind of game, what is it? Well, at00:27:37
least I remember this feeling of00:27:39
hunger and you suddenly come out of this,00:27:42
you look around and you are amazed, well, you00:27:46
look at the world in a new way, you seem to00:27:50
just00:27:52
perceive reality, or rather, you00:27:55
perceived reality completely differently00:27:57
because in the computer it was one, but00:28:00
in the world it’s completely different, it won’t be the same00:28:04
there will be a reality that will be00:28:06
like this and there and there, that is, you will00:28:09
have an augmented reality in your00:28:11
life,00:28:12
augmented with the help of these00:28:15
facebook tools, and you will all00:28:18
walk around the city wearing these glasses, they00:28:20
will tell you what you want,00:28:22
they they will push you there to take00:28:24
some action and you return home, you00:28:27
won’t be able to just get rid of it.00:28:30
Nowadays it’s difficult for people to00:28:33
get rid of their phone, even go to the00:28:36
store without a phone for 10 minutes and this00:28:39
poses a problem,00:28:41
but then you won’t be able to00:28:44
get rid of it at all. yourself because you00:28:46
will actually be, first of all, stuffed with00:28:50
these sensors because they will00:28:52
read00:28:53
impulses from everywhere just from your brain00:28:56
and this is a separate story by the way, but00:29:00
until they say that there are no00:29:02
invasive sensors or else this is just00:29:05
this whole universe00:29:08
Zuckerberg's meta universe is based on the00:29:11
constant measurement of the00:29:14
impulses of the human body, what you00:29:17
feel inside to the smallest detail, yes, it’s just a00:29:21
specific neuron,00:29:23
that is, it will come to this, how00:29:27
close are these technologies, how long will it00:29:29
take ten years,00:29:30
twenty, maybe it’s almost00:29:32
ready when we should expect but it’s almost00:29:35
ready, of course, and well, in a year we00:29:38
will start to see this already00:29:42
launched, but of course I think that00:29:45
this will happen, that in a year they will start00:29:48
using it, but some IT specialists, well,00:29:51
like opinion leaders,00:29:55
bloggers, then they will show00:29:58
how cool it is In general, it’s great and00:30:01
they will either00:30:05
pay money for it, or they will be given00:30:08
something there, I don’t know00:30:10
when it will be organized, of course,00:30:13
but there will be a limited circle of these00:30:16
users, then00:30:18
gradually, this circle will grow, and00:30:23
by the way It’s interesting that in Russia, like00:30:27
this, there are advertisements, by the way, you saw a lot of00:30:29
advertisements, here’s me in the meta universe,00:30:32
I saw more memes about this,00:30:34
mockery, the fact is that I hardly saw it at all,00:30:37
that is, but in the00:30:39
English-speaking sphere, there are different videos there to00:30:44
say00:30:46
there are indeed stories on the topic, but in Russian00:30:52
somehow I’ll be honest, it’s just some news that00:30:54
he’s exhibiting something there00:30:56
and this suggests that this gives rise to00:30:58
some questions because00:31:01
do they even put on the fact that in Russia00:31:04
someone will use this, but in general00:31:08
there, for example, do they bet on the fact00:31:10
that someone will live here at all, that00:31:13
is, well, yes, that is, such00:31:15
interesting00:31:16
questions arise, why are there no special00:31:19
advertisements, this is meta universe in00:31:21
Russia and this is a candy, that is, here00:31:26
we remember how to say this00:31:29
immortal method of carrot and stick when00:31:32
new, these are new world, this is new00:31:36
power, this is new, this is a global search for a00:31:40
concentration camp, it is being implemented by methods of carrot00:31:43
and stick,00:31:44
we see the whip everywhere the world does00:31:48
n’t really care about the carrot, and it’s just this method00:31:51
of the universe that’s the carrot, but something about this00:31:53
carrot in Russia isn’t really shown00:31:56
and it’s trying to make it no longer available, well, that is, it00:31:59
will be like this for us, it’s not00:32:01
forcibly promoted, but there is where then there in00:32:03
the West it will seem to us, oh, how ore00:32:05
everything can be hell, maybe this is00:32:07
part of the strategy00:32:08
that is designed for the fact that ours00:32:11
will watch, but how is it, but only the00:32:13
Westerners can use it, we00:32:16
want it too, but they are the only ones who are00:32:19
unlikely to do that here the people are just us, they probably00:32:21
hid for now, just in their00:32:23
English-speaking world, this is to me in Europe,00:32:26
the rest are so far as unnecessary over00:32:29
maybe here and now it’s difficult to say00:32:32
about China, don’t you know, I think China they00:32:35
don’t touch them, no one will let them there, and00:32:38
but the Chinese will00:32:40
probably00:32:42
do something something of its own, but I believe that00:32:46
since this is a very serious00:32:49
thing, that’s how I say that this is direct00:32:51
control over thoughts, but I believe00:32:54
that you cannot control thoughts in00:32:58
the sense that I am taught to think something and00:33:01
there is one of them it doesn’t recognize it, it won’t00:33:05
record it, but some brain impulses, yes, it00:33:08
can examine it which, that is,00:33:12
they can00:33:14
give something out of this thought, but00:33:17
nevertheless, the thought itself is still an image that00:33:21
I will represent, it’s impossible, I00:33:23
can’t explain it somehow then00:33:25
why won’t this work for us, but00:33:29
nevertheless, it’s just all the physical00:33:33
information from almost every neuron,00:33:37
yes, they will record all this00:33:39
on a global scale and in the00:33:42
Russian Federation, among other things, and this00:33:45
will allow them to very well predict00:33:49
behavior00:33:50
to control its people, yes they they will00:33:53
really know what this00:33:55
person is, this is where he goes and what the00:33:58
first thing he does is what he means, what he00:34:02
thinks there, and so on, and this will00:34:04
concern such a psychological00:34:06
portrait, yes, but this will concern,00:34:08
let’s say I don’t know the security forces there, this00:34:11
will concern00:34:12
officials this will concern everyone,00:34:15
no one will go away, everything will be in full view, of course,00:34:17
but China, you say,00:34:19
will be separate, and in Russia, we also00:34:21
say that we are collecting the Internet00:34:23
into islands, and it seems to me that it is00:34:25
Zuckerberg’s meta universe that will make a00:34:27
sovereign Internet, it is impossible to00:34:31
say so harsh maybe the00:34:33
predictions are a bit harsh because in00:34:36
previous programs I myself advocated for a00:34:38
Russian sovereign Internet, explained00:34:41
why this was necessary,00:34:43
explained how to do it, but in particular,00:34:47
through00:34:49
such a large system of airships, yes,00:34:52
this is the00:34:53
Internet in the stratosphere, yes, I had a00:34:57
program for this is a whole topic, I, in principle,00:35:00
still adhere to this until this00:35:03
position that this is necessary, but I’m afraid00:35:06
that this train has left, that this should have been00:35:10
done earlier because00:35:13
now, but let’s imagine this00:35:16
Zuckerberg rolled out the meta universe and00:35:19
it’s clear that all of our the so-00:35:22
called elite, yes, all00:35:25
computer scientists, all IT people, they will00:35:28
strive to get there, they will live there, they will00:35:30
strive for it, and they will not allow the00:35:33
Internet to be00:35:39
completely sovereign, and the00:35:42
Internet makes sense, so sovereign00:35:45
only if it is total, if it is00:35:47
so partially there, well it’s just that there are00:35:50
some sectors, then this is already this is not the00:35:53
same in China, not so by the way in China, in00:35:55
principle, they are already there rigidly to the end00:35:58
in its entirety, this is all so that00:36:00
you can get there, of course, even00:36:03
on Facebook, but for this you need to00:36:06
go00:36:08
beyond the Chinese Internet, you need to00:36:11
use it,00:36:13
well, go to the American ones and right now you00:36:16
just if you are in China and you00:36:18
do something, I think there your social rating00:36:21
will drop sharply and you will simply become00:36:24
an outcast, but well, that’s00:36:27
just me I think that since it00:36:31
will be impossible to separate this, but if we00:36:34
think about it, well maybe our00:36:36
computer scientists and technicians will create their own00:36:39
kind of meta-universe, but I don’t believe in it00:36:42
because what I see is well,00:36:46
purely even at some ideological00:36:50
level at the level of development, they00:36:53
still copy American models, but00:36:56
they don’t have such strong developments in00:37:00
this area, and if something appears, they00:37:03
immediately immigrate to Silicon Valley,00:37:05
try to sell it to the American, that’s00:37:08
what they try, they usually00:37:10
burn out very quickly, and There is another00:37:13
very important aspect that has also00:37:15
greatly undermined I think in general our00:37:18
developments, particularly in the field of00:37:20
artificial intelligence, is00:37:22
monopolization because we either00:37:25
own everything, either I take it or there is an index00:37:27
there, well, there are literally several companies00:37:29
that control everything if a person00:37:31
comes out with his own00:37:33
he has nowhere to go with the project, they will crush him, they00:37:36
won’t let him develop, so it’s a good00:37:39
question, they’ll take him away, I’ll just take him away00:37:42
and remake the guy, yes, yes, that00:37:44
is, and people knowing this, they kind of build00:37:47
their own strategy, just either sell out,00:37:50
they can assign Yandex to someone00:37:54
head of a department there with a good00:37:56
salary, that’s the way out, either go to the00:38:00
states and try to sell00:38:03
there somehow, well, well, well, there’s00:38:06
already a lot of money there and so and there’s00:38:07
still some chance and what do they think they00:38:10
want? By the way, we can also say00:38:14
that00:38:15
Zuckerberg will not allow the emergence of new00:38:19
Zuckerbergs, or Bill Gates has been trying for a long time to00:38:22
make sure that no00:38:25
new bill gates arise; they don’t need00:38:27
this, and that’s why, of course, they let it in00:38:30
harshly; it’s all in his hands well, it00:38:33
just pays a little more, well, an00:38:35
order of magnitude more,00:38:36
so what to do, it’s not fun00:38:41
that there really won’t be any internet for your neighbor,00:38:44
we won’t have to sit at home wearing these00:38:47
glasses and not go anywhere, this is our00:38:49
future, well, look, first of00:38:53
all, after all as I said, they don’t care00:38:56
about the main idea, the main00:38:59
calculation, that’s all this is all of this whole00:39:02
project is00:39:04
to synthesize human consciousness is00:39:07
to create an artificial artificial00:39:09
consciousness artificial intelligence I think00:39:12
that they won’t be able to do this anyway they won’t00:39:14
succeed so they are theatrically yes yes they00:39:16
they will spend a lot of resources on this there, but00:39:20
along the way, of course, they can00:39:23
control the world there for some time,00:39:26
they won’t reduce people to the status of00:39:29
slaves,00:39:30
so they’ll make such a dystopia, by the way, it’s00:39:34
interesting,00:39:36
there was one like this, if I don’t know if you saw it or00:39:39
not, there was such a dystopia power of the world00:39:43
like- then the world of the wild west is an00:39:46
American series, in my opinion, 18 or00:39:50
Dimia, a recent to recent series, and there00:39:53
is just a00:39:55
similar plot to what00:39:59
Zuckerberg creates in general. This series, I must00:40:01
say, is very well made00:40:04
precisely in the sense of philosophy in the sense of00:40:07
understanding both the00:40:09
tasks that they stand in front of the00:40:11
developers of artificial intelligence,00:40:14
in front of the scientists there who00:40:16
do this, in front of the philosophers, there is00:40:18
hunger and a very high-quality series, and00:40:22
there is just like this,00:40:25
probably a whole season dedicated to the fact that it seems00:40:30
like it00:40:32
was created for, which means that for these00:40:35
people, a00:40:38
certain universe of the00:40:41
world, let’s say so until a certain a certain planet,00:40:44
let’s say the world, yes, this one from the regiment where00:40:47
they go as tourists and everything there is00:40:49
virtual, in principle, yes, well, it’s like not00:40:52
quite virtual, that is, there are more likely00:40:54
androids there, but still, these are not people,00:40:57
these are robots, as if this is an00:40:59
artificial one between and here in this00:41:02
artificial world you can do everything, that means00:41:05
you can kill there, do whatever you want,00:41:07
then and about it as tourism and you00:41:10
can go00:41:12
back home and like a tourist trip00:41:15
where you are there just to have fun to the fullest00:41:18
there it’s just all this00:41:20
is shown and that’s it It00:41:25
would seem at first glance that00:41:27
this is just00:41:30
some kind of desire to earn00:41:33
money a day from these people who pay for00:41:35
these trips, and then it turns out that00:41:38
at the next level, to the point that in00:41:42
fact,00:41:44
those who organize all this, they00:41:47
do it in order to record impulses,00:41:49
which means those people who come there00:41:52
to study them, that they are00:41:56
actually experimental subjects and to understand00:41:59
their motives, to understand how consciousness works and to00:42:03
use it in the big world to00:42:06
control humanity, it’s absolutely the00:42:09
same story as with00:42:11
Zuckerberg’s meta-universe, that’s what happened00:42:14
you predicted how it happens in TV series, yes there,00:42:17
yes, this is actually being realized, yes,00:42:21
well, we wanted positive,00:42:25
we wanted positive,00:42:28
but we understand, even the fact that we00:42:32
realize this without having the computing00:42:36
capabilities of these Zuckerbergs00:42:38
still says that people00:42:40
will win in the end, I don’t know when people00:42:44
win anyway, they will still be able to do00:42:47
this, they will put a spoke in the wheels,00:42:50
they will use the meta-universe00:42:53
for00:42:54
subversive activities against these00:42:57
digital platforms themselves, then00:43:00
probably I, yes, I would really like to create a00:43:04
digital pain underground the underground is one00:43:07
that, by the way, will influence the00:43:09
real world, but here’s another very00:43:12
important point that I didn’t note, but it’s also00:43:14
not positive, and the truth is that this is another00:43:17
negative that I’m just around the corner, I forgot00:43:20
to say this is what00:43:22
you understand, that’s when people will live in00:43:26
all of this,00:43:27
their understanding of reality will change, their00:43:31
understanding of themselves will change and they00:43:34
really, I think most will00:43:37
consider themselves computers, this is00:43:41
actually the worst thing, that00:43:43
is, yes, when you live in all this,00:43:45
you will really feel that you are a00:43:48
computer and00:43:50
you will like it, it’s creepy in00:43:53
fact, but it’s like,00:43:56
something needs to be done about it, really,00:43:58
because if all of humanity00:44:02
gets hooked on something like this, it’s like00:44:05
such a thing when all people00:44:09
will simply be indoctrinated and they will believe the fact00:44:11
that they live in the computer they live in the00:44:14
program and they themselves are the programs here I’m00:44:17
afraid but it will be difficult to find a way out but00:44:21
by the way, also in this series the00:44:23
world of the wild west there are fighters there, which00:44:27
means we have an underground resistance they00:44:30
will start there in the end there they still00:44:32
ruin it to say big this super00:44:35
intelligence which seems to be where all this00:44:38
flocks00:44:40
there it all ended well well it’s00:44:43
clear there that a continuation follows like but00:44:46
but at least there they manage to do a lot00:44:50
that they need to put pressure on the00:44:54
channel’s viewers day to create I’m just viewers of00:44:58
the channel day now imagine00:45:00
must imagine00:45:04
the scale of the scale of the threat and00:45:09
not scare people too much, I mean,00:45:13
also in the comments that horror stories are00:45:15
horror stories but it’s necessary anyway, but00:45:18
what, let’s throw our hats, let’s00:45:22
behave here when It’s very fashionable for us to00:45:25
often talk about America in00:45:28
crisis, there in collapse, in a catastrophe, there it00:45:30
dies, but that00:45:34
means in reality we see the00:45:37
same American troops there, instructors in00:45:40
Kharkov, there in Odessa, there they are somewhere up to the00:45:43
Pope next to us by no means not Russian00:45:46
soldiers there in Vancouver or in Mexico,00:45:49
but I would just say that we can00:45:52
talk about the fact that we will still00:45:55
throw hats at everyone and create a sovereign00:45:57
Internet there and so on, but we00:46:00
need to be realistic and, by the way,00:46:04
returning to this sovereign00:46:06
Internet I still insist00:46:09
that it is needed,00:46:11
but for this we will have to change our00:46:15
society to change our state00:46:18
to make this possible, that is,00:46:21
what I said is why it is00:46:23
impossible now, because the elite will not00:46:25
want it, the IT00:46:27
people will strive to do this, so we need to00:46:30
do it this way so that this does not happen, in order to00:46:32
somehow change all this among the elite and00:46:36
IT specialists, and for this, of course,00:46:38
very serious efforts are needed, but it is possible,00:46:41
this should be an incentive for us;00:46:53
in the direction of00:46:55
freedom not enslavement, it is a revolution, that00:46:59
is, it is precisely00:47:01
to play on the freedom of people on their00:47:04
desire for, which00:47:06
means to00:47:08
realize themselves in the real00:47:12
world, to drive on humanistic00:47:15
values, on mutual assistance, on00:47:18
solidarity, this should be00:47:20
left to this, let’s say we are creating a sovereign00:47:23
Internet, but how to resist out of temptation,00:47:25
our rulers have already done the00:47:28
same thing to us, but no, no, of course, it’s00:47:30
just that, as I00:47:34
said, social transformations are needed, that is,00:47:37
in their current form, these people, these00:47:41
oligarchs, of course cannot be restrained, no, well, it’s00:47:43
necessary to do this just so that00:47:45
they the words didn’t mean anything at all, for00:47:48
this it is necessary that as if they had nothing to00:47:51
rely on, even in the oligarchs,00:47:54
for example, China, everything connected with the detail00:47:57
he made the Internet sovereign for himself, but for00:47:59
all the people he installed one that has00:48:01
not yet been dreamed of why we don’t do this we’ll do00:48:03
the same thing, but I just think that00:48:06
Russia will lose one hundred percent here, and those00:48:10
people, if there are still00:48:11
statists left in our management, they00:48:14
should be starting to have00:48:17
doubts about that, yes they already, yes they should00:48:20
understand that the00:48:24
Soviet people, for example, won the00:48:28
Great Patriotic War00:48:30
precisely putting on the best quality on00:48:34
they mean that is, all these stories00:48:39
about some kind of barrier detachments there are all00:48:41
nonsense, that is, in fact, it was a00:48:43
feat of the people, it was a00:48:46
manifestation of the best qualities of00:48:49
ingenuity there, and this is all this, and00:48:53
this was the choice of the free people who00:48:55
strived for a better life, that’s what00:48:58
we need operations for, that is, when we are00:49:01
told that we need it in the wrong place, service00:49:04
people need to be enslaved from everyone, we will00:49:06
definitely lose and we will be in colonies, there are no00:49:10
options, but the other path is exactly the00:49:14
one I said, it’s difficult and it00:49:17
requires great transformations and, above all,00:49:21
moral and ethical transformations, some kind of00:49:25
transformations to moral ones, but without00:49:28
it, that is, this is precisely this path, it is00:49:30
the only one for Russia, that00:49:33
God is inside, so that everything will come true, thank you00:49:36
very much for the conversation, grenade, get here seba,00:49:39
goodbye00:49:41
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