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already partially touched upon it, uh, after all, the
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Putin regime, whatever it may be? Yes, no matter what you
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call it, it still
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always relied on uh, very effective, we
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must admit, a unified information
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policy, and uh, which of course has this built in
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here is the propaganda system And suddenly there is
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such inconsistency and inconsistency
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simply in the information that
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is provided by society that this is why
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why E they don’t immediately report Why why does the
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French newspaper report this about
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this meeting And why do the same
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federal channels continue to wet
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this hand of
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one of these hands I don’t know whether Prigozhinsky’s right or
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left is there Yes, but the independents,
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despite the fact that you are not
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punished and continue their
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movements and even mean they were accepted by
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Putin, by the way, I remembered that someone called
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this rebellion a proposal to Putin dialogue Yes,
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but apparently Putin In the end I
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accepted this proposal, how to explain
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this, the inconsistency of
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everything has already gone a little to pieces within the
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already power of Mich,
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or not yet,
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it has gone to pieces from the very beginning, that is,
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maybe we didn’t notice it until the end,
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but it has gone to pieces from the very beginning
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when you you are trying to manage a huge
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country, a very different country, passing
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everything through the head of one person, then it
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all ends in kerosene, that is, in
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order to cope with this, a
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system is usually built, a simpler system
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if the number of actors in
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the territory is not far, but this was so
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when there
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were fewer and educated people there
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were fewer people, there was
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less mobility then when the number of
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such tactors increases, then the system
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changes to a more efficient one
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related to the building of institutions,
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the division of powers of the system, the cost of
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counterbalances, which allows this system to
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somehow self-regulate and be
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controlled when you remove this entire system and
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try to skip it through
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your head, then a wild problem arises, a
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wild problem in particular is connected with the fact
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that well, they write to me very often. Well, how
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can he take an assistant? Well,
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assistants can solve the guys; either the
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assistant is an Independent person in general,
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or he is an assistant; if he is an
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assistant, then they need manage as we
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know, the chain of command
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operates effectively up to the fourth level in the case of the
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Russian state, it is easy
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to calculate that the fourth level of command is the
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fourth level of management and
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there are approximately 7-9 people at
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one level, this is the maximum that
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anyone can pull out, even effective management
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shows what it is for
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systems
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remain absolutely invisible
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Professional or territorial teams with a
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population of less than 100 thousand people are
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generally absolutely invisible Even
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if all the elements of this system
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work absolutely effectively. And if these
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elements also work ineffectively, then
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much larger pieces of this system are not
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visible, they begin to work inconsistently, but
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how There’s no other way, and
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what we see now. They, of course, can
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explain this in different
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ways. But in fact, what is
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visible is what, so to speak, as a result of
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this we can see is that the system
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has a
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huge thousand-year
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foundation and its stability is like- then what is
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still holding back is this scattering of
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tests at the top,
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how long will this last? I’m
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very afraid that God forbid, this
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wonderful regime will be in power for 10-15 years and of
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course
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the foundation may crack,
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you know, I wanted to talk about something else and I’ll
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say something else about this this friend, but
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now I was amazed,
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I want to
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get hooked and talk a little
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in more detail,
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the image of the foundation that does not belong
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to me, production, time, youth, a
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very strong impression
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that I was born and raised in Kiev and
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ended up in Moscow in the
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ninth year
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and ended up at the right time in the right place.
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That is I accidentally turned out to be
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a consultant for this first congress of
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people's deputies who
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worked in a very detailed way then right in
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this large corridor
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palace, now the square is ugly, they found
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great artists and then it was such a
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completely open space Well, what did
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you remind of the seventeenth year? Because
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this says it in the ward there was
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something like a secretarial room, people
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there or sandwiches there were communicating with each
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other, and in the
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Alexander Hall there
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they were writing some documents on their knees. That is, all this
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and not as a person who arrived, what caught my
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eye was that I
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saw something that fell out within these walls from
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my personal
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social and political experience and suddenly
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I saw something that struck me in the other
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direction because I saw only young
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reformers and somehow, to be honest, they did
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n’t look very nice against the
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backdrop of these walls and I suddenly felt
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some kind of power of a
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thousand-year-old Imperial statehood
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is still not a phrase, it’s not emptiness, it’s
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colossal inertia and colossal
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potential of which, of course, you can
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take advantage of the plus, you can also
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take advantage of the minus, and the thing with Mikhail is
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that now these guys are such
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parasites, parasites who have saddled this
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potential and they are now exploiting
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capabilities that are not theirs.
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they exploit the power of inertia, this is a
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huge machine that was not built by them, despite the fact
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that I am absolutely
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against the fact that that huge machine needs to
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continue to be repaired and
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exploited. I believe that it has
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exhausted itself, nevertheless, they are trying
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to survive from this
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trolleybus,
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there are still 100 years of sand in repairs But here
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I also agree for a few more years and it all
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went downhill, that is, they give it to them, they will
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finish it off. That is, I actually agree
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that when we say
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that things went wrong for them, we need to understand what’s
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wrong, that is, they have been doing it since the very beginning
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that they jumped onto the roof of this
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historical trolleybus,
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and as for the perm machine specifically,
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I don’t quite agree with you. I don’t
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think that there was some kind of
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complete collapse or panic and I don’t know what
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they’re saying, I’m saying that I think that, well, how could they do
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that? worked out and simply what is for you and
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me as cultural people,
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relatively at least
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intelligent and therefore interested in
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non-contradictory thoughts, they don’t give a damn,
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that is, they proceed from
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what they have now achieved already from the fact that the
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mass consciousness of the population is in
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this style when in the morning the ocean has always fought
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all over Eurasia in the evening.
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That is, in principle, the memory is erased
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several times during the day and people
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do not reflect on the state at all,
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but there is nothing at all between what they say this evening
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and what they are told this
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evening and what they were told yesterday
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morning general Here they
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have achieved this result, a state of
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mass consciousness When during the day there is
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such a clean board during the day on
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which you can write different texts,
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erase their dirty texts with a rag and in general there is
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nothing left. Therefore, I believe that
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they decided to take advantage of this competitor, let’s say,
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and
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instead in order to give some
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logical explanations that we
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are waiting for them there, they resolved the problem of the taste of the
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modernists in this style, and it
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was important for the discussants to place the tax I deeply
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that they are not inspired by the fact that, for example,
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hypersia was a specially organized
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leak so that this information
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salary, as it were, with on the other hand,
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by the way, why did
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Peskov, as if by accident, uncover himself
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and as a result, wild information popped up
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that turns out to be absurd,
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but at the same time it solves the main problem,
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she again legalizes Prigozhin and Wagner
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inside, well, they solved this problem
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there was a conflict No conflict
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After a few steps, they
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legalized Prigozhin again as a player into the
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inside of political life Well, as if
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maybe they don’t like it, someone just didn’t
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have time to find their way in this
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master’s space, it’s not confirmed
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that this is a patrol in general, it’s just that it’s
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already difficult to navigate in space
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and not them,
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so of course there are failures somewhere there Well,
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someone just wanted someone,
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maybe just objectively and wanted to
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get rid of him, but it wasn’t like that, as
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I said, the left hand didn’t allow
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his right hand to be cut off, or maybe
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it’s just the legalization of
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Prigogine’s legalization at the same time as his
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degeneration That is, he continues But
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you are no longer the same Prigozhin who
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because it was there,
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relatively speaking, the foreman took the bull there. He did
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n’t start, well, how he behaved like a thief of
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such a kind as an authority, and he
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must remember that he is only a foreman and
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on the one hand, as if he is needed
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because
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needed, but on the other hand, he had to be
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reined in a little, such a word was reined in in
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this way now that they decided, as it were,
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in two ways, they said the word to generate
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it a little, that is, we see two
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directions,
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the first designated, in fact, even
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from this, too, Surkov, the soft form among
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continues to be very We don’t see But the idea
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apparently continued there somehow through
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something, Well, all the time there is
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a proxy and the action has passed Everything now we
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will do everything with caution, ours will be
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sitting both in the state and at the front Well, that
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is, this is one idea that let us
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now
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they have played to the benefit of the Ministry of Defense and all of them
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somehow, it will be
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interesting for the contract soldiers to understand how they will
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maintain the discipline of the penal battalion of the
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indicator system. By the way, I now have
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an idea why Putin actually
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put the brakes on all this,
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all this is great, this and so
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on but
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there is an attempt to encircle the enemy and
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obviously the
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gloomy prediction is coming true, and
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if it goes on like this the second time,
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take And who will take the glorious
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contract troops,
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so you understand there is a difficult situation
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because by destroying
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Prigogine, which is what so many want, it
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essentially destroys the only
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combat capability,
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Общественный деятель Михаил Ходорковский и политолог Владимир Пастухов в эфире программы «Дорожная Карта» на канале Ходорковский Live обсудили проблемы Владимира Путина в единоличном управлении огромной страной. Почему пропаганда запуталась в освещении военного мятежа Евгения Пригожина и в чем современное российское общество переплюнуло роман Оруэлла «1984» — смотрите в этом видео и не забывайте подписываться! ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ и ПАСТУХОВ: Система идет вразнос. Путин и Пригожин как бандиты на стрелке. Саммит НАТО https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27P8sLpJORc ЛИПСИЦ: У России заканчиваются деньги. Бюджетников будут увольнять. Чубайс осознал ошибки https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0QPKAgO_to Дмитрий БЫКОВ: Украина на саммите НАТО. Путина не будет к 2025 году. Россия не развалится https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH7nWeuCy54 ШЕНДЕРОВИЧ: Путина придется добивать по-другому. Ахеджакова — атом добра. Эрдоган, Пригожин, Кадыров https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft08CmXnywc ПАСТУХОВ: Эскалация конфликта. Какой будет смена власти в России? Что изменит саммит НАТО в Вильнюсе https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6erLWPyvuHE АСЛАНЯН: Кортеж Байдена в Вильнюсе. Как проехать в Крым. АвтоВАЗ и минивен. «Москвич» и Bentley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHZ95E4siQ4 АСЛАНЯН: Кассетные боеприпасы — американские и российские. Сравнение от Асланяна https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH6Ct5uWH30 Блог Михаила Ходорковского: https://www.youtube.com/user/khodorkovskyru

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