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and I speak, I'm waiting for an angle rating.00:01:41
Hello, good morning to all the00:01:45
attendees. Thank you for your presence00:01:47
and we hope to make you have a00:01:51
pleasant time. This matter is a matter00:01:53
that we believe contributes00:01:55
a lot to society. Let's see if we00:01:58
can all enjoy it. To say first of all that00:02:00
this event will be recorded and available00:02:03
on YouTube, I wanted to highlight it not only00:02:05
for legal reasons but00:02:07
especially because so that the entire00:02:10
country that can thus be used by00:02:13
many more people than those who will be00:02:14
present in the two minutes00:02:17
are many people. In the mornings00:02:20
we work and we cannot dedicate time00:02:21
to these matters but it will be available00:02:23
on YouTube and we hope that our00:02:26
talks and our interventions will be00:02:29
used by many more people than we00:02:30
have this morning live00:02:33
and well, as you all know, the00:02:37
bird monitoring program common00:02:38
breeding birds that like the massacre00:02:45
but00:02:49
it is an international initiative that has been00:02:52
developing for decades in00:02:54
numerous countries around us, as00:02:57
we will see a little later with one00:03:00
of the interveners within seo00:03:02
birdlife, the program has taken a00:03:04
very prominent place,00:03:06
you know that we want quite a few programs00:03:09
of monitoring in progress 12 or 13 because they00:03:13
are not active inactive depending00:03:15
on the seasons and the years but00:03:18
within all these programs sacre00:03:21
has a very prominent place because it00:03:23
provides very very00:03:25
important information and as will be reflected in00:03:28
the next interventions.00:03:31
You will see what it contributes a lot00:03:34
to the international national autonomous scales00:03:39
and outside of these scales because also to00:03:42
scientific and mathematical habitat scales00:03:46
etc.00:03:48
For this we are going to have seven00:03:50
people who will contribute with00:03:53
a brief presentation different aspects00:03:55
and different utilities that facilitate The00:03:58
information generated by the00:03:59
[Music] program00:04:01
must first enter Ramón Martín,00:04:04
director of institutional development at00:04:07
Silverlight, and what he will tell us upon the00:04:10
arrival of the program, Spain is created, because00:04:12
no one like him knows it in all its00:04:15
terms because the responsibility falls on him.00:04:18
when this00:04:21
monitoring program arrived in Spain and00:04:24
will tell us how why and for what00:04:27
next maite ep the coordinator00:04:30
of the citizen science observatory00:04:33
in Spain within the foundation and00:04:35
dibert and see if you live00:04:37
give us a few glimpses of the00:04:39
current situation of citizen science in spain is00:04:41
an aspect that could take a few00:04:44
hours of presentation but that will surely00:04:46
summarize the few minutes00:04:49
below virginia escandell is the00:04:53
coordinator of the program. It has been created at the00:04:55
state level within seo and it00:04:58
responds to the very specific aspect that is the00:04:59
participation the evolution of the00:05:01
participants the general results00:05:03
of this monitoring program after00:05:05
these 25 years of development thereof00:05:09
below gorka belamendia as a00:05:12
worker at the environmental studies center00:05:14
of the vitoria00:05:15
gasteiz city council will tell us about his experience as a00:05:19
seo/birdlife partner and collaborator in00:05:21
these 25 years of experience is acre and00:05:24
the support for our organization00:05:27
we will later have an00:05:30
international vision of this type of00:05:31
bird monitoring by ella00:05:35
pasquet member of the board of directors00:05:37
of the European bird census00:05:40
bcc conflict in the position of communicator of the00:05:43
entity and also responsible for the00:05:45
department of studies for the time of00:05:48
seeing line belgica will explain to us the00:05:51
monitoring of common birds in Europe and00:05:54
its contributions to that scale00:05:58
below beatriz brook and that this00:06:00
the truth is that yes and I will tell you about the00:06:03
institute of hunting resources of00:06:05
castile la Mancha will provide information00:06:07
on the importance of the data for00:06:11
the type of problems acre for00:06:14
science and scientific publications00:06:16
contributions or limitations and will already00:06:19
explain many aspects in this sense00:06:21
and finally pablo vera coordinator of the00:06:24
monitoring program of The00:06:25
Valencia office of SEO Birdlife will explain to us what00:06:28
the blood program and other00:06:30
monitoring programs contribute to the work in00:06:31
SEO conservation. At the end there will be00:06:34
a question time. You can00:06:37
write down all your questions in the00:06:39
chat that you have available and we00:06:42
will write them down. and we will be00:06:45
waiting so that in the end we will00:06:47
mention you one by one and see if,00:06:50
among all the interveners, we can00:06:52
give answers to all our00:06:53
questions,00:06:55
so for my part I have little more to00:06:58
say to you and if you think so, then it's already happened00:07:02
to Ramón Martín to Thank you very much,00:07:11
thank you very much,00:07:15
thank you to all the people who00:07:18
joined us in this celebration. We00:07:21
cannot forget that it is our00:07:23
birthday, we are celebrating, and00:07:25
it is a source of satisfaction to be able to00:07:28
meet with all of you.00:07:33
I want to start. for welcoming you00:07:36
on behalf of our board of directors,00:07:38
our director and the entire00:07:41
organization to this seminar, to this00:07:45
celebration, but I would even say more, I00:07:47
would also dare to thank you00:07:49
for participating on behalf of so00:07:52
many collaborators in the sacred before00:07:55
these years from00:07:57
state and regional administrations, universities,00:08:00
other research centers from other00:08:02
groups or mythological groups, other NGOs that have00:08:04
actively collaborated in the sacre00:08:08
and even more so, I would also dare to thank you00:08:10
on behalf of all the00:08:12
field volunteers who are the00:08:14
true essence of projects of this type and00:08:17
team and I dare to do it on behalf00:08:19
of everyone because we can say that the00:08:21
Sacre belongs to everyone, which is a00:08:24
consolidated project widely implemented in00:08:27
Spain that also has, as we will see00:08:29
later, an international trajectory and00:08:31
is here to thank the00:08:32
other speakers who join us and in00:08:35
that sense the one00:08:39
who seo birdlife will be involved in a00:08:42
project like this had as its almost00:08:45
final objective that it could be useful to00:08:47
society, citizens by facilitating00:08:51
voluntary participation but also to the00:08:55
rest of the community00:08:57
administration scientist ultimately thinking00:08:58
of having better information to00:09:00
guide verification strategies00:09:02
like the rest of my colleagues. I will00:09:04
detail this in detail:00:09:05
that is the common component,00:09:10
that almost common property of the sacred program00:09:17
responds to a large extent00:09:20
to the futuristic vision of Francisco00:09:23
Bernís. founder of the00:09:25
Spanish mythology society, when he spoke about00:09:27
the need to have battalions00:09:29
of field ornithologists, he did not now00:09:32
highlight the importance of the mythology00:09:34
of alpargata, as he said, not the00:09:36
basic mythology to generate00:09:37
from there useful information for to know00:09:40
our power better, in short, to00:09:42
better guide the conservation strategy00:09:45
then we talked about espadrille ornithology00:09:47
and today we talk about citizen science00:09:50
the trajectory of the transition of the term00:09:53
has led to this one that we use00:09:56
today but which is largely based on00:09:59
those pioneering initiatives of desire,00:10:01
mobilizing from the beginning its00:10:02
foundation and beforehand the numerous00:10:06
field ornithologists to generate that information00:10:09
well, I insist we are celebrating00:10:12
25 years of the blood program of our00:10:15
program, the monitoring of common birds is believed00:10:16
and after all the time it00:10:20
can be interesting or curious00:10:24
to reflect a little on the origins,00:10:26
not as it does, as Juan Carlos has pointed out, I00:10:30
am going to give you some very brief touches00:10:33
on why, when and how00:10:35
the blood emerged, although you have enough information00:10:39
in other sources in the bulletin that is00:10:44
prepared annually and that00:10:46
an extraordinary number has been published that you00:10:48
have available can be consulted shortly00:10:51
but I want to give you a bit of that00:10:53
personal vision of someone who lived it00:10:55
very closely, as Juan Carlos says, I00:10:59
would dare to point out the year 1986 as the00:11:03
beginning of00:11:04
The entire Spanish Society of Ornithology00:11:06
until that date was an00:11:08
organization closed by stands and00:11:09
to say the least, closed and very limited to00:11:13
a university environment and a few00:11:15
fans of psychology at that time did not00:11:17
have that copla projection that it has00:11:19
now and he00:11:22
and in that sense in that year hundreds of00:11:25
six society created its policy for00:11:28
the protection of birds of passage armed00:11:30
with zero they could predict what and that's where00:11:32
the change really began the change of course00:11:34
the change of benefits it is clear that00:11:36
there was pop years later to the generation of00:11:39
blood from a common bird monitoring program00:11:42
in that year00:11:45
the actor already intervened the other00:11:47
main actor in all this which is the rsv the00:11:50
partner the united kingdom - truly00:11:52
international that greatly supported00:11:56
grooming in those times00:12:01
a few years later we are Speaking of00:12:03
1994-95, let's00:12:06
say formal conversations began to guide the00:12:09
creation of a serve and it arose from the00:12:11
double interest of both seo and00:12:14
reception. Obviously, a00:12:15
vision of the future was obtained, a long-00:12:17
term vision, a strategic vision00:12:19
made us identify how very necessary00:12:22
to have something that00:12:24
the Anglo-Saxons already had and that made us00:12:26
healthy envy then of seeing decades of00:12:29
bird monitoring because we needed to00:12:31
have something like that now insists on00:12:33
better guiding both our00:12:34
strategies and our00:12:37
subsequent conservation actions but also The00:12:38
SSP had a similar interest because00:12:42
its pension and insurance also00:12:44
contributed to ensuring the conservation of00:12:45
its birds in the Mediterranean environments00:12:49
where they spent the winter. Then they00:12:51
also supported the initiative in other00:12:52
European and African countries, but with the00:12:54
intention of promoting the program.00:12:57
monitoring of common birds in the00:12:58
Mediterranean and00:13:00
especially intensified the relationship with seo and we00:13:02
began to work in the years 94 and 9500:13:05
on the design of the strategy in00:13:08
the assessment of the possibilities of the00:13:11
situation. Our situation was very00:13:13
different then so did it. was that of00:13:15
the society as a whole, we did not obtain a00:13:16
little more than 4,000 partners and00:13:19
we did not reach 8 people hired.00:13:23
No, that also represented an00:13:24
important limitation when trying to00:13:26
ensure general coverage in the00:13:29
project.00:13:30
There were intense conversations, as I say.00:13:33
fpv team headed by00:13:35
richard gregory who is still very involved00:13:37
today brand of winds in director of00:13:40
conservation and colin I lived00:13:41
unfortunately died today to see00:13:43
laws that laid the technical foundations00:13:45
let's say for the methodology of the program00:13:49
it is expected that it would occur at all levels00:13:52
from its district director to the or00:13:54
el rose who was the link let's say with00:13:57
us and with a00:14:00
fantastic personal relationship00:14:02
on the part of seo birdlife eduardo de00:14:05
juana and alejandro sánchez were the00:14:08
pioneers along with myself from those00:14:10
first meetings and joined00:14:12
immediately after with Carlos del00:14:15
Moral and a little later Virginia to00:14:16
take the reins of those bases that00:14:18
were laid in collaboration with the RSV00:14:21
visits to the United Kingdom or his visits to00:14:23
Spain' they consulted that work, that00:14:26
methodological design and the time launcher, in00:14:28
short, a pilot project in 1996 in00:14:31
the area only of Madrid and00:14:33
León, evidently in areas where00:14:37
we had greater potential,00:14:40
possible collaborators from partners00:14:42
then in León, post initiatives00:14:44
also and previous trajectories of Pancho00:14:47
Curro and his research team in La00:14:49
Cantera Style00:14:51
the following year If I remember correctly, 19700:14:54
was expanded to other areas, always taking00:14:56
into account the potential availability of00:14:59
members and volunteers in Seville, Valencia00:15:01
and Vitoria,00:15:05
thus consolidating the design of the00:15:07
program that did not yet exist. The00:15:09
Wishes Scientific Committee was created in00:15:11
2001 and was subsequently submitted to00:15:14
its analysis to its validation the00:15:16
methodology and there have been several changes00:15:18
but then it was done with those00:15:21
technical teams and it was launched in 1998 the program00:15:24
began to take shape there the trajectory began to take shape00:15:30
the difficulties of the cases of covering certain00:15:35
geographical areas by lack of volunteers00:15:36
but it was00:15:39
achieved00:15:42
and we can see now 25 years later an00:15:47
impressive level of participation and technical quality of the project that00:15:50
also has, as has been said, the00:15:54
salt program that I am known and recognized by00:15:57
the administrations, provides information00:15:59
even of interest for the fulfillment00:16:01
of the administrations' own commitments00:16:02
to the00:16:14
conservation strategy that is the final objective00:16:16
of the promasa program that00:16:21
we focus on00:16:25
and that is the00:16:28
trajectory of, say, its00:16:31
generation the vicissitudes have been00:16:32
enormous and parked in the different00:16:34
exhibitions it will be possible to comment on some00:16:36
more details a model project of00:16:38
citizen science today consolidated and00:16:40
expanded that contributes to generating a00:16:41
very useful space to better understand00:16:44
our environment our most00:16:45
common birds and act in consequence to00:16:48
better guide its conservation and to00:16:50
finish as we do not00:16:52
constantly repeat our00:16:54
enormous sincere gratitude to the00:16:57
field volunteers, there are also good examples here00:16:59
in the list of speakers to the00:17:01
campus volunteers who are the ones who00:17:02
really make the sacre possible together00:17:05
with the coordination teams, analysis00:17:07
and monitoring in the00:17:09
organization,00:17:12
thank you, I insist that 25 years are nothing00:17:16
like that one said. Let's hope to see soon, I00:17:18
will have many more years, salsa believes00:17:19
consolidating and generating more and better00:17:22
information to better conserve the00:17:24
closest birds. Thank you very much to all of you.00:17:27
Thank you very much.00:17:31
to comment now to maite on the width00:17:33
from the foundation and see if you can see it is00:17:36
a general vision of citizen science00:17:38
for spain forward in white00:17:48
I am going to00:17:50
share some slides00:17:55
and00:17:57
well first of all congratulations00:18:02
the presentation of well has seemed00:18:06
absolutely spectacular and I00:18:09
would love everyone else is applauding00:18:11
but you have to talk a little00:18:13
then00:18:15
well then I00:18:18
basically have three messages00:18:23
the three messages well I want to underline00:18:26
the place thank you and I want to underline well well you00:18:30
wanted to see live00:18:33
this community of ornithologists that you have00:18:36
always been a citizen I have00:18:39
loved ornithology field and00:18:41
espadrille for so many00:18:45
decades, in particular, it is believed that it has been 25 years,00:18:48
well, I want to emphasize although00:18:51
you know it well, but for the most part00:18:54
I don't know why because we were well00:18:56
aware of the very important part00:18:58
that you are in the science system of the00:19:02
community scientific,00:19:05
sometimes we talk about amateurs, sometimes00:19:07
we talk about volunteers and that is very00:19:10
good, nothing against it and at the same time I want to00:19:13
emphasize that there is the need to become00:19:16
aware that birdlife seo is00:19:20
part of the scientific community in00:19:21
Spain, not the science system. Well,00:19:24
after that, the three points that I00:19:27
wanted to address are well, well, a vision00:19:32
of financing for citizens very00:19:34
quickly, rational action in Spain, well,00:19:37
some impacts without their European context00:19:41
because it is essential to take into account00:19:44
that there are no arrivals at all and00:19:46
Finally, the observatory as a00:19:49
service, well, we are00:19:53
always in contact with the entities that00:19:55
are here and with many others, and well,00:19:58
I want to remember00:19:59
our role in providing support to any00:20:02
citizen entity, so00:20:05
respect for the first point00:20:07
regarding citizen science. Well,00:20:10
it is indeed an expression, it is an expression00:20:14
in my work together with my00:20:16
fun colleagues we often realize00:20:19
that there are people and entities that have been00:20:21
doing citizenship for years, decades,00:20:24
but well with other00:20:26
expressions and00:20:28
sometimes using expressions in which they00:20:33
cannot The00:20:35
awareness that00:20:37
science is being done is not clear, so I think the most00:20:40
important thing is the fact that00:20:42
science is done independently of00:20:44
the label and at the same time also the00:20:47
terms because they can be relevant and00:20:51
then the expression citizen science is00:20:52
highly discussed. there he presented a00:20:55
recently published book, it is in00:20:57
open events because00:20:59
many people from Spain have also collaborated00:21:02
from two different entities. I00:21:06
also want to refer the room to the00:21:11
third millennium website' heraldo with whom00:21:14
from the00:21:17
observatory we also publish these articles00:21:19
that give an idea of the enormous diversity00:21:22
of citizen science projects,00:21:24
so what I want to emphasize is that00:21:26
the terms sometimes make us fall for00:21:29
well, well, maybe we know it, but00:21:32
it is worth reflecting and delving into the00:21:35
scope that it has. I don't know if there are many00:21:38
definitions of citizen science. I am not00:21:40
going to present00:21:42
any of them, there are many and each one00:21:44
focuses on an aspect and then the00:21:49
first chapter of the book of saños00:21:51
deals with that, so I00:21:54
like it a lot and I repeat myself, it does, but00:21:57
I really like bringing the director of the00:22:00
training and see00:22:02
dear Francisco Sanz when I have heard him00:22:06
on different occasions well once he00:22:08
understands three words people doing00:22:10
science then of course people well apart from00:22:14
people we are the people so we people00:22:16
can be professional scientists or00:22:18
not and the idea is that both scientists00:22:21
professionals and non-professionals who do00:22:24
not earn a salary from science00:22:27
but from other types of work, because00:22:28
we can contribute to00:22:30
citizen science, so well, it is not00:22:33
easy to define what science is, that is00:22:35
clear, but what can be accepted00:22:40
very briefly is that more or less00:22:44
of the world we agree that in00:22:46
research because we start from the00:22:47
observation of the formulation of a00:22:49
research question of working hypotheses00:22:52
we collect information empirical data and00:22:56
the scientific data of particles is not the same00:22:59
as paleontology or00:23:01
cosmology so well00:23:09
we arrive To conclude, we make public00:23:23
that there is a citizen contribution.00:23:26
Yesterday I was in a session of a00:23:28
European project and someone brought this00:23:31
slide. Well, it tells you a lot about00:23:33
projects with tributaries where00:23:34
people, well, maybe00:23:36
we would only contribute, well, just in quotes,00:23:39
providing data, then there is projects in00:23:42
which people can also00:23:43
develop material methodologies,00:23:46
they do data analysis, such as00:23:48
taxonomic classification, software,00:23:51
whatever, and then there are projects where from00:23:53
the research question to the00:23:56
publication of results,00:23:58
non-professional citizens have been00:24:00
involved and using, for example,00:24:02
publications. scientific ones in which they are00:24:04
co-authors or publications, well, of00:24:07
another type, more informative, it is more for00:24:09
all audiences, like those of us who have00:24:10
been in third level,00:24:13
so well, now we are going to talk00:24:16
about centering Zealand in Spain, I simply00:24:18
want to remember that the foundation and see00:24:20
if You see that it is a foundation for the00:24:22
promotion of the city00:24:24
in Spain and at the same time we carry out00:24:28
our own citizen science projects,00:24:30
one of those projects is the00:24:32
citizen science observatory in00:24:33
Spain and it is its project, just like other00:24:36
interested parties,00:24:38
it is co-financed by The00:24:40
Spanish Foundation of Science and Technology,00:24:42
then the difference between the00:24:44
observatory and having fun is that00:24:46
we do our own00:24:48
citizen city science projects for fun, and00:24:51
the observatory seeks to give00:24:52
visibility and promote the concept00:24:55
throughout Spain by making invisibles and00:24:59
establishing networks among all the00:25:02
entities initiatives people who00:25:05
want to dedicate themselves or have been devoting themselves for00:25:07
decades to citizen science00:25:09
so a few strokes well the00:25:11
first thing is that I would invite you to that00:25:13
you will need the observatory because00:25:17
there since its launch in 201600:25:19
we have already collected almost three hundred00:25:22
different initiatives and well, further down00:25:26
this slide he indicated not many more things00:25:28
to discover and to create, there are00:25:30
some that have a long history00:25:35
and then in these four lines what he00:25:39
indicated is that00:25:41
apart from the fact that there are decades of history00:25:43
of citizen action in Spain with00:25:46
different names00:25:48
well recently both from00:25:49
Europe and from European policies00:25:51
for things that are done today or explain00:25:53
Juan Carlos very well to Ramón and the00:25:57
Danza Leal and many others of you00:25:59
no well that's good well the00:26:02
institutions realize that00:26:05
there are very important benefits for00:26:10
the entire society as a whole and00:26:12
then since 2008 already in Europe,00:26:15
well 3rd00:26:16
there was an awareness that it is00:26:19
worth promoting this type of initiatives00:26:22
of course there are enormous debates in00:26:24
which I am not going to go into and now I00:26:27
simply want to comment on some00:26:28
impacts of the catana in Spain and in its00:26:31
European context so this is an00:26:34
article that we published at the beginning of00:26:36
this year because at the observatory00:26:37
we do research on the00:26:39
citizen tape in Spain and in its00:26:42
international context and then well Well, the00:26:44
analysis of the evolution of00:26:46
scientific publications that we00:26:48
have with this article we wanted to point00:26:51
out that the application of a has a00:26:54
role in professional academic science, which00:26:56
is also to say that it00:26:59
is not that citizen science is00:27:01
second-class science, far from00:27:03
it.00:27:04
Another thing is that there are also many other00:27:06
publications that are not00:27:08
academic publications where the00:27:10
citizen tape must also be seen because it is00:27:14
for different audiences or readers. It is00:27:18
good, I simply wanted to show how00:27:20
recent it is exponentially throughout the world00:27:22
and on the other hand, the paper that00:27:26
the citizen in Spain has a00:27:29
complex topic network that forms00:27:31
scientific publications through00:27:33
co-authorship, since Spain has strong00:27:37
important connections with other countries, it is00:27:40
seen that the00:27:41
Anglo-Saxon world predominates and the trajectory of the sun,00:27:46
Ramón has told us, is very important00:27:49
and You can get a00:27:51
thousand00:27:53
very interesting articles from there, but I'm going forward00:27:56
here. What I want to say is something that I00:27:59
have already mentioned, but I want to emphasize00:28:00
that, for example, in the last00:28:05
plan, the last strategy in the00:28:08
fifth technology00:28:10
proposes science. citizenship as one of00:28:13
the basic principles four00:28:15
basic points to support the action00:28:18
I have only developed of the00:28:20
four that there is a last paragraph is00:28:23
developed in the others we do not talk about00:28:25
co-creation we talk about open access00:28:27
of values needs00:28:30
social expectations sales with a language very00:28:32
close to that of those of the00:28:35
European Union, so well,00:28:37
since the sixth framework program,00:28:39
and since Spanish science has00:28:45
been present in science in00:28:48
European research, sometimes there00:28:52
have been no programs other than to propose00:28:54
citizen science. within the name00:28:56
of the call and well there you see00:28:58
some numbers00:29:01
28 of the 77 countries00:29:05
sorry projects in which Spain was00:29:08
a partner 28 of those countries Spain has00:29:10
been the leader in very diverse and00:29:13
diverse topics and there is another00:29:16
black map well that's good You can00:29:19
also consult it in the latest report00:29:21
of the Observatory of Intention in00:29:23
Spanish. I am going to jump over this slide00:29:25
very quickly. I just want to say that00:29:28
the Horizon Europe program00:29:30
also contemplates participation00:29:34
in an increasingly00:29:35
explicit way, which has already been done. since the00:29:38
constitution of the European00:29:41
Research Area in the year 2000 but well00:29:43
from the 20th so that the participation well goes00:29:47
to00:29:48
very different reasons that we could00:29:50
talk about but at the moment well00:29:53
as I said we can take a walk through00:29:57
the multiple initiatives on the00:29:59
platform of very various themes and00:30:02
methodologies00:30:05
and well, about the impacts, we00:30:07
have talked about the scientists, but00:30:10
of course they are the same inventions00:30:12
that reflect what the00:30:14
people who upload your projects to00:30:16
the observatory's web platform reflect,00:30:20
so it is clear to us that there is a00:30:21
political impact and an00:30:23
environmental impact there is a social impact there is00:30:25
an educational impact00:30:26
well many times this occurs all of00:30:29
them at the same time but well this is what00:30:31
each of the managers of their00:30:34
own project says always biodiversity and00:30:37
ecology and environment biology are00:30:40
areas Well, they predominate not only00:30:43
in Spain but throughout the world as a result of00:30:45
the historical tradition of science and00:30:48
even together in so many aspects.00:30:53
Let's see if it is ending00:30:57
clearly, of course, then it is less00:31:00
high. There are different impacts that00:31:02
we analyze the call for species00:31:04
that already We have commented on it simply, it is to00:31:06
say that there is a specific line00:31:09
for three calls to talk about how we00:31:14
try to give you vision also00:31:16
through interviews,00:31:18
you can upload our resources to the00:31:20
observatory, we hold colloquiums, samples,00:31:23
many of you participate, well, the00:31:26
observatory is present in00:31:28
international networks, the rich It is the00:31:30
Ibero-American for the jump also this00:31:33
slide and now to finish without00:31:36
failing to thank and00:31:39
congratulate with all my heart to00:31:41
seo/birdlife for their00:31:44
enormous work and also for our support in00:31:47
specific initiatives that we have had00:31:49
from the observatory in In00:31:51
a few months, we want to publish in00:31:53
particular an article related to00:31:55
the motivations for doing00:31:57
citizen science and Silverlight was one of the00:32:00
entities that also supported us00:32:02
enormously to get00:32:04
some magnificent answers and well here00:32:07
I leave it, there is my contact and my apartment00:32:09
but many thank you from mar grandmother00:32:13
d00:32:15
but very interesting presentation because00:32:19
nothing now virginia is going to tell us00:32:20
the content of the results blood00:32:23
again from dancing on foot to make it more00:32:26
sense to tell jokes speakers from the00:32:30
previous n00:32:41
hello good morning everyone I'm going to To share00:32:44
the presentation,00:33:02
I imagine that already00:33:07
well, the program is believed to be the00:33:09
program of trends in00:33:11
bird populations in spring, it is a00:33:16
I can't turn the screen00:33:20
and it00:33:24
won't let me turn the screen00:33:43
there, it also looks very good, let's00:33:46
see now, well As00:33:51
20p Lazio and Ramón Martín have already commented on the00:33:54
importance of citizen science in00:33:57
this type of monitoring programs,00:33:59
I also want to emphasize00:34:03
that volunteers are the00:34:05
key element for achieving these00:34:08
programs and that without them we would not have00:34:11
been Now celebrating 25 years00:34:13
of this monitoring program and00:34:16
having the information on00:34:19
the trends of the00:34:21
bird collections that we currently have,00:34:24
in addition to the volunteer participants00:34:27
who carry out field sampling00:34:30
and take data from the birds, there is another00:34:33
team of volunteers, a network of00:34:37
coordinators who are local to several00:34:41
provinces and who help us to deal00:34:44
more closely with the00:34:46
volunteers to explain the00:34:48
methodology, how to participate and the00:34:51
doubts that arise in all the00:34:53
volunteers because they have a00:34:54
closeness on the part of these coordinators00:34:57
apart from the coordination and from the00:35:00
sober live team,00:35:03
as you see in the graph, the number of00:35:06
participants since this00:35:09
program began has been increasing.00:35:13
First, it has been a fairly00:35:15
exponential increase, then it has stabilized and00:35:18
in recent years years we can count on00:35:20
around 1,000 volunteers00:35:23
participating in this program,00:35:26
some years it has been somewhat00:35:29
larger but well we can stabilize it00:35:31
at a thousand people throughout these 2500:35:34
years there have been almost 3,00000:35:37
participants who have registered to00:35:40
participate. and collaborate in the00:35:45
data collection, these people who00:35:47
register to participate are people00:35:50
interested in the environment that00:35:53
birds have in particular who have00:35:55
certain knowledge and experience in00:35:58
the identification of birds and want00:36:01
to contribute that experience of theirs so that00:36:08
Consistent data can be obtained from00:36:13
our bird populations. Some of00:36:15
these people do not have as much00:36:16
experience, but we offer them00:36:18
courses that are carried out by both00:36:21
the volunteer regional coordinators00:36:24
and us from the citizen science area00:36:26
and also from the00:36:30
area of education of our00:36:32
organization that carry out00:36:34
specific courses for sacre programs and other00:36:38
programs and also introductory courses00:36:40
in ornithology and00:36:43
bird song identification things that00:36:46
help people to have00:36:48
experiences to be able to participate in00:36:50
these programs00:36:52
on the map you can see the00:36:55
distribution of all those00:36:58
places where we have00:37:01
enough information to be able to be analyzed and00:37:04
included in the analyzes of00:37:07
population trends. As you can see,00:37:09
there is information in all of the00:37:13
territory and on the islands, although in00:37:16
some areas this information is much00:37:20
Greater this is evidently because00:37:22
in those areas the population is larger00:37:25
while proportionally there are more00:37:26
people who can participate and also00:37:29
in some cases because there have been00:37:31
particular projects by the00:37:36
communities that have allowed us to increase00:37:39
participation and have more00:37:42
data available00:37:47
Throughout these years, well, as I have00:37:49
mentioned, these 25 years the number of00:37:51
volunteers has been increasing and with00:37:54
this we also have an increase in the00:37:56
information obtained, both a greater number00:37:58
of species from which we can calculate00:38:01
their population trend and a greater00:38:03
consistency of the species. of which00:38:06
we have information from the first00:38:08
years, which tend to be the most00:38:10
common species and which are more distributed, which is why00:38:13
we have a greater amount of data. In00:38:17
addition, during these years there has been an00:38:21
increase in the improvement of technologies,00:38:24
as we all know in 25 years I have00:38:27
everything increased very quickly00:38:29
and from the first year that the first00:38:31
years that the field data were taken00:38:35
was taken in a field notebook or on00:38:37
paper cards we already had prepared00:38:41
so we took all the volunteers, it00:38:43
has happened to the fact that currently This00:38:46
data collection is much simpler00:38:47
because there is a mobile application to00:38:50
be able to record the data directly and there00:38:53
is also a00:38:56
bird tracking website available heretic point where00:38:59
once the field sampling is done00:39:02
all the data is recorded and00:39:05
each participant can enter to00:39:07
edit themselves. If you made a mistake or made00:39:10
a mistake, you can make inquiries,00:39:14
contact us and many other00:39:17
functions and we have also developed00:39:19
an application that allows you to00:39:23
train in the recognition of00:39:27
birds by song in this program to00:39:30
monitor what volunteers do.00:39:32
in the field is to record the contacts00:39:34
of the birds that they detect and these00:39:38
contacts can be through the00:39:40
birds that they identify visually or by the ones00:39:42
that they listen to. This part of00:39:47
identifying the birds by song00:39:49
can be more complicated and so00:39:51
with this application because it allows the00:39:55
good volunteer, anyone who00:39:57
wants to use it, to practice in a00:40:00
didactic and entertaining way00:40:03
with the different songs because in a00:40:06
simpler way they can choose00:40:09
different habitats and go from a00:40:13
simpler level with few species to00:40:16
more complicated levels in the that00:40:18
there are several species that even overlap00:40:22
with all this data that the volunteers send us,00:40:26
we currently have00:40:30
information for 114 species of00:40:33
common birds that we call little birds,00:40:37
in addition to these species, as in00:40:40
field sampling, data is taken from00:40:43
all the species that are found. see or00:40:46
hear all those that are detected,00:40:47
we can also have00:40:49
information on other less common ones such00:40:51
as raptors or00:40:53
other groups of aquatic birds, which is00:40:58
better for them in the00:41:00
specific censuses that are carried out, but00:41:03
we can also see that the00:41:04
results that are obtained with blood00:41:06
because they are quite related, those are00:41:12
quite consistent with those that are00:41:13
obtained with the specific ones,00:41:16
well, for some00:41:18
species I have given an example of a00:41:20
graph, real cotton, as you can00:41:22
see in these 25 years, well, it starts00:41:25
from the 98 well, for reasons that00:41:27
I cannot go into now, its population has00:41:32
clearly been in decline, although if you00:41:35
observe years of improvements, this00:41:38
can occur in many species due to the00:41:40
characteristics of the collections of00:41:42
birds that have ups and downs00:41:46
over the years, it depends a lot. of the00:41:48
previous springs of the00:41:50
reproduction conditions of that same year there are00:41:53
several variables that intervene00:41:55
but in the end what matters is the00:41:58
decrease in the slope and that is seen in the00:42:00
graph of the decrease in the population00:42:04
in this case00:42:06
in addition to having information on00:42:10
species trends if with the00:42:14
data from the sacre program if we take into00:42:16
account the trends of the species00:42:20
that mainly inhabit a00:42:23
certain environment, for example if we take into00:42:25
account the most common agricultural birds00:42:28
that are related to that environment00:42:30
we can make an index of the00:42:35
general trend that is observed in the00:42:37
birds of that environment and we can see, for00:42:39
example, that agricultural birds have00:42:42
had a significant decrease since the00:42:46
beginning year. I00:42:50
specifically mention agricultural birds because00:42:52
the indicator of agricultural birds is an00:42:55
indicator that is takes into account in an00:42:59
established way00:43:03
and well we can also see that00:43:06
forest birds and urban birds in general00:43:10
show an increase,00:43:13
the festive ones would be there around00:43:16
stability but more tending to00:43:19
decrease00:43:21
overall well not all00:43:24
agricultural bird species were evidently00:43:26
in decline but most of us can00:43:28
see that in general of the total00:43:30
results of the trends of the00:43:33
common areas of those 114 species for00:43:36
which we currently have information00:43:38
we see that there are 37 percent of them00:43:42
that are in subscribe00:43:46
and well it seems that although Let's see that there is00:43:49
more that is increasing, which would be 4400:43:52
percent of the species. The increase00:43:54
that may seem to be positive but00:43:56
in reality is not because we must take into00:43:58
account the 37 that are in00:44:00
decline. The ideal situation would be a00:44:05
situation of stability like this in00:44:08
19 percent of the species00:44:14
and well, the ultimate objective of this00:44:18
monitoring program, the00:44:20
main objective is to obtain00:44:24
trends in bird populations00:44:26
because they are indicators of the00:44:29
biodiversity of the media, as I00:44:31
mentioned at the beginning. The key element00:44:33
is the volunteers who provide us with00:44:36
the data and it is analyzed00:44:40
thanks to a statistical tool00:44:43
that has been00:44:46
developed by the00:44:48
Dutch statistical department, which is the00:44:50
Jim program and which is used by00:44:53
all the programs00:44:56
of the European Union, this00:44:59
monitoring program. It is carried out not only in Spain00:45:01
but in almost all of Europe and also00:45:04
internationally in several other00:45:07
continents.00:45:09
These analyzed data on00:45:12
population trends of00:45:16
bird populations, in addition to being00:45:17
indicators of biodiversity, are00:45:20
currently used, for example, to00:45:23
evaluate a greater number of00:45:26
species in this new edition of the00:45:30
red book that is being prepared in which they00:45:32
could be prepared in previous editions.00:45:37
In addition, the trend of00:45:41
bird populations is a value that is used00:45:45
to catalog the species in the00:45:48
different categories. of threat by the00:45:52
wii cn, in addition to the size of the population00:45:56
and the area of occupancy, and the species00:45:59
may be included in certain00:46:02
species catalogs, but well, this will already00:46:04
be told to us by the fellow blogger00:46:06
in the conservation part, so00:46:11
all the data of this program00:46:13
follow-up reports are also requested by00:46:18
scientists to carry out their own00:46:20
articles and studies since without them they00:46:24
would not be able to collect so much00:46:27
information from so many years to carry out00:46:30
these studies, so this information00:46:32
is very useful for them to00:46:34
draw other conclusions that are different or00:46:37
more specific than the ones that taking out,00:46:40
as you have also mentioned, these,00:46:46
this monitoring program is also00:46:49
carried out in other European countries and we00:46:50
transfer our data, well,00:46:54
we send them to calculate the trends,00:46:58
the European trends and well, all00:47:03
these results of the sacre program00:47:04
are more described in the en the bulletin00:47:08
that we have just released on00:47:10
wildlife monitoring programs in00:47:12
work groups together with other programs that are00:47:13
carried out and that all the00:47:17
volunteers receive,00:47:20
well, with this I hope to have00:47:23
given a00:47:24
global vision and this is all, thank you very much, thank you very much,00:47:29
great. We are00:47:32
spending a bit of time to see if you00:47:33
can be synthetic in 1000:47:35
more minutes and if not, as tight as00:47:39
possible thanks Virginia and it is00:47:42
the turn of our00:47:46
25-year veteran volunteer participating without pause00:47:49
by mclaren day forward fat00:47:55
Hello, good morning Juan Carlos, very00:47:58
good morning to all of you, and at the outset, I00:48:01
am going to thank you very much for00:48:04
giving me a voice on behalf of the00:48:06
volunteers of this program, it is00:48:09
believed, and also how not to congratulate them, not to00:48:12
congratulate them for those 25 years in the00:48:16
environment of this monitoring and what is00:48:19
truly allowing us is to00:48:22
get to know more in much more00:48:26
detail all those species that00:48:28
populate our great Iberian peninsula and00:48:32
then locally including the species00:48:35
that we have in municipal areas00:48:37
well I00:48:38
am going to share with you one presentation in00:48:41
order to make this talk a little more enjoyable00:48:44
and thus be able to make00:48:47
you understand what these00:48:50
25 years have been dedicated to or the monitoring and00:48:55
study of a hidden region in the00:48:58
Rioja Alavesa00:48:59
within what is the00:49:02
historical territory of Álvava00:49:06
I hope you are all seeing this00:49:09
screen in which from the outset I am going to00:49:11
talk on the one hand about those 25 years of00:49:14
experience that one has had and on the00:49:17
other hand about that support for seo birlife00:49:19
that we want to give from the00:49:21
city council of Vitoria itself gasteiz and how00:49:24
could we not thank seo s for00:49:27
the opportunity it gave us to go and00:49:31
visit one of the magnificent00:49:34
wine regions of the south of Álava when00:49:37
one wakes up with these landscapes when00:49:40
you can be lucky enough to00:49:43
get twice a year observe00:49:46
get enjoy the undulating00:49:50
and full relief in short you are already00:49:53
seeing it of vineyards of this most00:49:55
Mediterranean part of our00:49:57
historical territory and the most commented and ramón how00:50:00
curious I also wanted to bring out the00:50:04
east this news that was broadcast in00:50:10
1996 and that he has rescued00:50:12
by dusting off that folder that he created and that00:50:16
I began to fill in that year of a00:50:19
project that gave us all the energy00:50:22
here in Vitoria Gasteiz and I tell everyone how00:50:25
lucky we were at that time00:50:27
was that00:50:29
one of the best ornithologists at the level00:50:32
national who is Alejandro Honrubia00:50:34
transmitted the information to us that from00:50:36
SEO Birlife they wanted to launch a00:50:39
bird monitoring project and here00:50:42
I was from 1995 and already in Vitoria Gasteiz00:50:45
knowing that he wanted to launch that00:50:47
pilot project that Ramón Martín00:50:49
has already commented because we also00:50:51
began to investigate, we started at the neck00:50:54
and so thanks to this we were able00:50:57
for two years to sample with a00:51:00
similar methodology, not the same but00:51:02
similar to the one that appears00:51:04
below, already in the year 96 we were able to00:51:07
sample Álava in the years 95 and 96 and00:51:11
with the results obtained,00:51:14
we present a small poster in00:51:16
those thirteenth days with00:51:18
Spanish mythological events that were held00:51:20
in Figueres and well, 97 arrived,00:51:25
the first year in which we launched ourselves into00:51:27
the adventure,00:51:29
produces you will read this follow-up in each00:51:31
one of the grids and I am going to give three00:51:35
things that were curious to me and that00:51:38
continue to be interesting to me 25 years ago, one00:51:42
was00:51:43
how they changed, not how they have changed the00:51:46
methodology when choosing the00:51:49
grids, because if you look at that00:51:51
area that was pointed out to you, spoke that one00:51:54
could go to sample in a radius of 10000:51:56
kilometers from Vitoria along with one00:51:59
of the cities that, together with Seville and00:52:01
Valence in Valencia, were going to launch00:52:04
197 this census and it caught my attention00:52:07
because at that time we00:52:10
would not be able to select the grid but00:52:13
that the grid was going to be selected00:52:15
based on a random procedure, a00:52:18
random procedure by pse00:52:21
or in madrid in such a way that00:52:23
we would receive the grid that was00:52:25
deemed appropriate from the central cabinet00:52:28
and we would leave your world to encourage00:52:31
us to carry out despite that00:52:33
peculiarity that they could be sent00:52:35
100 kilometers from our city00:52:38
because we are living in one of00:52:41
the richest and most00:52:44
diverse regions in terms of biology, in00:52:47
terms of living things and in In this00:52:49
specific case to the birds, you see that here it00:52:51
shows you that map that came out in00:52:53
2003 in the atlas of00:52:55
breeding birds that frames us in our00:52:57
region as one of the richest in terms00:52:59
of political biodiversity in such a way00:53:02
that when One of them received a letter00:53:05
back from Madrid saying about 890,00:53:09
gives you the grid that I had to create in the00:53:12
first place because they sent me there to the00:53:14
south to the edge of the historical territory00:53:17
of Álava to that Mediterranean region of the00:53:20
Rioja Alavesa area, well, I tell a00:53:23
secret a secret that also sometimes00:53:25
catches my attention00:53:26
I chose two grids and the second00:53:29
turned out I have been even further00:53:30
away in the heart of La Rioja and I00:53:34
was doing that grid in the00:53:36
first two years and then I00:53:39
passed it on to a My friend00:53:41
started with it but I think that the data00:53:43
remained, but this one that catches me00:53:45
is closer to just 60 kilometers00:53:49
from the capital because it is much more00:53:51
accessible in such a way that in those00:53:53
years in which one begins to drive the00:53:56
car than to travel because the paths,00:53:58
well, in the account of the richness of highs00:54:01
that it has within the seconds of the00:54:03
second questions that I wanted to name00:54:05
is that in that year 1997 the effort that was00:54:08
asked of all of us00:54:10
who had a grid that was00:54:12
quite heterogeneous00:54:15
in terms of To the typology of environments00:54:17
I find the differences or techniques that00:54:21
we can find in the different00:54:23
ecosystems meant that we had to00:54:25
show, as I say, 3000:54:28
sampling points since only00:54:31
20 were shown in that 20 stations in those00:54:33
areas in the grids the environment00:54:36
was much more homogeneous and that00:54:39
was also a detail since the sacre was carried out00:54:41
in those years 97-98, even00:54:44
entering the year the 21st century made it00:54:48
really expensive not to spend five00:54:51
minutes sampling in each of the00:54:53
30 stations based on the00:54:55
travel, one spent almost00:54:57
the entire morning and I'm even going to00:54:59
tell you that the morning assumption was spent00:55:01
on some occasions, especially00:55:03
since the first sampling between00:55:05
April 15 and May 15,00:55:08
of course we are talking about a00:55:11
really very very terrain. rich where not only the00:55:13
vineyard for the greatest percentage of the00:55:15
grid is the one that dominates but00:55:17
we have oak forests in that00:55:19
10 by 10 grid areas of00:55:21
scrub rosemary cultivate this thousands00:55:24
of amanda that together with the large00:55:27
extensions of field of the executive or the00:55:29
own pastures that come from those areas00:55:31
also in which the plowings00:55:33
make the fence has failed of that00:55:35
capacity of regeneration of the00:55:37
hervencies give a truly00:55:40
rich tone to all that ambient environment also00:55:43
moderated by that mosaic of animals or00:55:46
almond trees that we can find00:55:47
that together with small00:55:49
endorheic lagoons such as in this case that of00:55:52
Calahorra Logroño and that is within00:55:54
our grid or that woman that forms00:55:57
that border that forms with the00:55:58
autonomous community of La Rioja the Ebro River that00:56:00
together with those remains in beautiful of00:56:02
its own river bed give this00:56:05
grid00:56:07
impressive in the scope of the00:56:09
species of horticultural species in00:56:12
such a way that that first tour of the00:56:15
year 97 well you can imagine in the end00:56:19
they tried to fulfill each of these in00:56:22
different ecosystems today I propose00:56:24
sabanitas or environments and with This00:56:27
also brings us to another of the third00:56:29
points that has changed today on00:56:31
paper, I have already mentioned it, Virginia, years00:56:34
in which all the00:56:36
processing of information, both on00:56:40
arrival from SEO and on return from00:56:42
Vitoria to Madrid, was done via email. The00:56:45
postcard made it a00:56:48
real Havana, the sheets of paper00:56:50
I remember from those famous A3s in which00:56:53
the 30 stations appeared and which00:56:55
even gave us the guideline in00:56:58
those early years to dial the00:57:01
number d00:57:03
of how we saw them and we saw them00:57:05
flying if We saw them singing or00:57:07
even if the male swedan females, well00:57:10
those are details today because they have gone down00:57:13
in history thanks to this new00:57:15
application that, as you all know,00:57:17
makes it easier not only to work00:57:20
in the field but also to do subsequent office work00:57:22
and for that reason I would invite00:57:24
each and every person from the party and00:57:27
country to the sacred events, download this00:57:29
because it allows us not only to00:57:32
facilitate this exchange, that speed in00:57:35
the flow of information but even00:57:37
the water of those graphs that in many00:57:39
cases I am going to tell you Also, the truth is that it00:57:42
catches your attention because this is00:57:44
wm 30, the grid with which it00:57:47
arrived for 25 years and which is truly00:57:50
an authentic hubbub. It is a00:57:52
grid where no00:57:55
increase or decrease can be seen, nor is there any lack of00:57:59
abundance or number of species and00:58:01
I told you that it is envy because why not on00:58:03
some occasion with Carlos did Juan00:58:05
Carlos del Moral come to show me00:58:07
graphs of his particles in which00:58:09
the decline or a certain decline00:58:12
that we all had in mind and that we all00:58:14
know this grid at the end could be seen or00:58:17
this graph, sorry at the end, what it00:58:19
is showing us is a little bit of a00:58:21
variation in terms of an average of some00:58:24
etc in the birds for each season and in00:58:26
the environment of about 70 species on average00:58:29
that are obtained in this00:58:31
Mediterranean grid of the 12000:58:34
species that for example are collected in00:58:37
the delay of the 112 sorry species that are00:58:39
collected from the player00:58:42
and I am also going to tell you another00:58:44
interesting detail which is being 40 km from00:58:48
home having a mountain range of about 140000:58:52
meters of altitude that It is the Sierra de00:58:54
Cantabria that makes my square one00:58:56
of the most00:58:58
visited squares in the entire national territory00:59:00
because you cannot settle for00:59:03
just two visits a year and I explain myself00:59:05
due to that distance due to that00:59:08
mountain range that in the end acts of the00:59:11
cutting edge between the transition areas and the00:59:14
Mediterranean,00:59:15
when you get up early to see those skies00:59:17
that the first slide showed and00:59:19
you arrive at that area you can find00:59:21
that in the middle part of the earth there is00:59:23
fog in the Mediterranean part there is,00:59:25
I think, wind from In fact, look, the month00:59:28
of May is the month that reaches the00:59:30
peak precipitation in this grid in00:59:33
such a way that one does not have to return00:59:36
home or there are even days in which the00:59:38
wind is predominant there. We are not00:59:40
in the middle of the Ebro valley and that makes that00:59:42
one has to repeat00:59:44
another of those morning sessions in00:59:46
which one can sample with00:59:49
favorable weather, but well, removing that00:59:51
negative aspect, because I am going to00:59:53
tell you below, we have00:59:55
positive aspects. In the end,00:59:57
I come is to create, the table is inclined01:00:00
to visit three years it is giving us and01:00:02
it is giving me the opportunity to know, for example,01:00:04
how two certain01:00:06
Mediterranean species are increasing because one has01:00:07
already become accustomed to knowing where01:00:10
they were with and soul, where the01:00:11
distant ones are or where the shore sings year after year01:00:13
and in this case another point that01:00:20
is truly in crescendo ours01:00:26
never that the fish and black01:00:32
silver01:00:34
flock to the shore or also those01:00:39
species that are more scarce in01:00:41
our area such as the turtle dove,01:00:43
the bird demonstrated the long-tailed tunic or01:00:46
the garden bunting and even A01:00:49
bird that has also seen disappear in01:00:51
the last 25 years has been the01:00:53
real adapter. It is simply that it comes to01:00:55
reflect what Virginia already mentioned01:00:57
a minute ago, but not only have we01:00:59
lost or alves01:01:00
have lost ecosystems, we have01:01:03
also lost, above all, the work it01:01:05
carried out. the cattle on these lands and01:01:08
that today we no longer truly01:01:10
observe the01:01:12
herds of sheep grazing we have01:01:15
visited the lines they have increased they have01:01:17
increased to a very large extent but01:01:19
normally due to that risk factor that01:01:21
phytosanitary professionals have in the01:01:23
conservation environment of the species but01:01:25
because today we are01:01:27
encountering a new risk that is01:01:29
trellised vines, we do01:01:31
not know what effect it may have on01:01:32
the area01:01:33
but I decide the truth is that it worries us,01:01:36
however we hope to see that we can see01:01:38
the sun again in such a way that this01:01:41
support for bird life is unconditional and is01:01:43
necessary and is not only necessary01:01:45
from the personal but01:01:48
particular level as a volunteer to these01:01:50
censuses but also from the level of01:01:52
the administration itself and in this case01:01:55
of the local administration of the which is01:01:57
the city council of vitoria gasteiz01:01:59
which we have signed an agreement with01:02:01
seo/birdlife so that they can carry01:02:05
out this urban sacred in the area01:02:08
of our city, that is,01:02:09
we already started in 2014 if you have it and01:02:13
we are proud of binner because01:02:14
We are going to do seven years of monitoring01:02:16
bird species in our01:02:19
municipal environment and look at the number of01:02:22
sampling points in collaboration with01:02:24
17 volunteers that we have had in this01:02:27
last year, 2020, in this graph,01:02:32
both graph since 2019 and that means that01:02:35
we obtain in these moments,01:02:38
such interesting trend graphs01:02:41
to improve management with a01:02:44
view to a much more01:02:46
plausible conservation, much closer and much more01:02:49
important, a conservation that gains01:02:51
muscle that can ultimately provide the01:02:54
species that we have in our01:02:55
municipality and from there that the city council01:02:57
of stage mining is01:02:58
truly grateful to have01:03:01
seo birlife to launch this01:03:03
urban blood and that it is truly01:03:06
showing us the importance of the01:03:09
scientific community of the community of01:03:12
citizen scientists to carry01:03:14
out these censuses are multitude of01:03:17
sampling points in a01:03:19
much smaller, much more local area, but01:03:21
in the end what counts is being able to01:03:23
manage our means through01:03:26
local data that allows us to01:03:28
achieve the bird populations01:03:31
in our municipality.01:03:33
Hello,01:03:35
thank you for here01:03:38
like this.01:03:41
many times the volunteers to all the01:03:44
volunteers through me to01:03:46
ultimately increase this community of01:03:49
scientists within ornithology01:03:51
within the organic citizenship that01:03:54
allows us to increase the number of samplings01:03:57
that we carry out in the coming years throughout01:03:59
Spain.' thank you very much and01:04:02
greetings01:04:03
thanks to the cut we are going to change a01:04:08
person of order because he has to leave01:04:11
in a few minutes forgive now because we01:04:14
also have to sneak in beatriz01:04:17
creek who defends other things to01:04:19
attend to and ahead of viatri who is going to01:04:22
give us a vision of the typical world of01:04:26
states jobs or thanks and let's see01:04:29
what you see01:04:34
I want to share the screen if we are going to go01:04:41
while here01:04:45
and him01:04:47
[Music]01:04:56
and01:05:03
you have01:05:08
a life I01:05:12
get the part of the south there is a part01:05:15
of itself01:05:19
but since from here you can reach the01:05:23
full screen well if you go there but01:05:27
the tarot flag click on01:05:30
goal will be under the banner that I01:05:33
can't avoid but there is a part at the01:05:34
top01:05:43
and this is the truth you01:05:46
tell me now well01:05:49
thank you first of all yes well thank you01:05:52
for In the invitation to participate, I wanted to01:05:55
focus a little precisely on the01:05:58
aspect of the importance of data01:05:59
specifically from sacré for01:06:02
scientific studies, Maite said, as well as01:06:04
academic science, but I wanted to say01:06:05
scientists in general, the opportunities01:06:08
and limitations, starting a little,01:06:10
let's also say Maite, it is very difficult01:06:13
to define what citizen science is. I01:06:15
had put one that can be debatable,01:06:17
as she said, which is the participation01:06:20
of non-academic people in01:06:22
scientific programs and she herself also said01:06:23
that it could be debatable how01:06:26
science is defined, but for me from my01:06:28
perspective science is any study01:06:31
that is carried out with the scientific method01:06:33
and I also said it in terms of the01:06:36
and formulation of the question how to use01:06:38
the data to refute or not a01:06:42
hypothesis what formulas to eliminate01:06:43
alternative hypotheses and01:06:45
ultimately also the fact that those If the01:06:49
work is evaluated by peers,01:06:50
the methodology and the conclusions01:06:52
are good, not starting out. It can be01:06:55
debatable and it wants to be opened, but well,01:06:57
I detected that the talk was organized01:06:59
based on this premise, so one01:07:03
of the good things that01:07:05
citizen science actually has is01:07:07
In01:07:09
previous presentations that provide01:07:11
a lot of data, one of the counterparts01:07:14
is that there can also be a lot of01:07:16
variability in our data because01:07:19
many people actually participate. There01:07:21
can be many sources of01:07:23
variability, which is not a problem,01:07:26
the fact that There is a lot of data that01:07:28
was also emphasized in some of the01:07:29
previous talks allows us to work on a01:07:31
large scale that otherwise I believe01:07:34
would be impossible01:07:36
and in that sense part of the message that I01:07:39
am going to make in the 9 days that I have is that01:07:41
I believe that all01:07:43
Citizen science information is01:07:45
essential to answer certain01:07:47
scientific questions, but the fact01:07:49
that it is associated with certain01:07:50
characteristics such as variability in01:07:53
the quantity and quality of data01:07:57
in space requires certain01:08:00
characteristics also in terms of how it01:08:03
is analyzed, how information is collated. information01:08:05
so that the conclusions that emerge from01:08:08
these programs are appropriate if01:08:12
this is citizen science in general01:08:13
and we focus on finding out what01:08:16
I wanted to talk about in the01:08:19
birdlife SEO program that contributes to the census of01:08:22
common European birds and I insist For me,01:08:25
one of the great scientific values01:08:27
it has is that it allows us to obtain01:08:29
information on a large scale at the01:08:31
national level and I did want to emphasize01:08:33
that they are obtained by people who have01:08:36
ornithological training. I believe that this01:08:37
is important both for valuing what01:08:40
there is and for To highlight it, there are many01:08:43
citizen science programs of all01:08:45
kinds. Maite also said it in her01:08:46
presentation and many of them did not01:08:48
require more than the willingness to01:08:50
participate. I think it is01:08:51
particularly important to highlight that01:08:53
the sacre is obtained with information from01:08:57
people who spend time training. or has01:08:59
happened before in their lives, all of us who01:09:01
have gone out to the field to identify01:09:03
Virginia also emphasizes the fact01:09:06
that in fact specific training is provided01:09:08
to the people who participate in01:09:10
the serve. I think this is important to01:09:11
highlight at the level of valuing01:09:14
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the information that comes that would not be01:09:18
possible to obtain by a neutral citizen01:09:21
and evidently the objective is to obtain01:09:24
information on a multiplicity of01:09:26
species which is good and01:09:28
also has its limitations. I insist that it seems to me01:09:31
that we must emphasize that it01:09:34
provides a lot of information that is very01:09:37
valuable scientifically but the type01:09:39
of analysis that is done in terms of01:09:42
the application of the scientific method will01:09:45
vary depending on the question you01:09:47
want to answer with this information,01:09:49
which is not a problem in itself but you01:09:51
simply have to take into account that01:09:53
There are certain characteristics of this type01:09:55
of information that must be taken into01:09:57
account when analyzing them.01:09:58
Virginia also took out a map before the01:10:00
fact that since it is based on01:10:03
where there are people who want to participate01:10:05
in the program,01:10:07
spatial distribution is not homogeneous in space01:10:09
since the fundamental objective01:10:12
of sacré is to obtain the maximum01:10:14
possible information from a maximum01:10:16
number of possible species within01:10:18
the common birds these and then you are01:10:21
interested in a specific species you may01:10:23
have to take into account that the01:10:25
detectability of certain species is not01:10:27
the same as that of others that have come out01:10:30
here talking about fantastically01:10:33
its grid maintained over time01:10:34
but we know that sometimes this01:10:37
is not always the case01:10:38
in some cases because people can01:10:40
participate during a certain time of01:10:42
the scale temporary then you have to stop01:10:44
maintaining this grid for a01:10:47
multitude of reasons then you can01:10:49
go back to all this and it is01:10:51
necessarily a problem it simply01:10:53
provides specific characteristics to01:10:57
this type of age that must be taken into01:10:58
account when doing the analysis01:11:00
in any case The messages have already been01:11:04
said before and it seems to me that it is01:11:06
essential. This program was made specifically01:11:09
with the fundamental objective of evaluating01:11:11
trends. I believe that the01:11:14
scientific validity of this program for this01:11:18
objective is beyond any doubt and has been01:11:21
seen in it clearly.01:11:22
studies I put here that talk01:11:26
about the use of sacré together with01:11:29
other pp camps programs for the01:11:31
evaluation of trends at the European level01:11:35
but as I said before01:11:38
if we want to analyze01:11:42
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the pattern of a specific species we may have to01:11:47
do certain type of01:11:51
specific analysis I give the example01:11:52
here of the European turtle dove where01:11:54
recently thanks to the collaboration01:11:55
with seo/birdlife we have reanalyzed the01:11:58
sac-d information taking into account,01:12:00
as I said, some of the01:12:01
specific characteristics that have01:12:04
allowed us to refine a little more in the01:12:05
evaluation of the spatial trend but01:12:08
beyond that, what seems very valid to me01:12:10
from a scientific point of view01:12:12
about all this type of programs is01:12:15
that it allows the possibility of analyzing01:12:17
what factors are associated with these01:12:19
trends, which is01:12:21
obviously essential from the scientific point of view01:12:22
but also then to01:12:24
use this information to01:12:25
develop conservation policies and01:12:28
for example one of the first I give01:12:30
this example that came out in science one01:12:34
of the most important scientific journals01:12:35
how to determine to what01:12:38
extent climate change could explain01:12:41
the trend of certain species it01:12:43
could be seen that01:12:45
those species that01:12:49
had been detected as more susceptible01:12:52
to the climate changes01:12:55
that we are leaving right now or01:12:57
more recently another study that01:13:00
tries to determine for01:13:02
migratory birds what the relative effect was actually declining more01:13:04
of climate change in the face of01:13:07
land use both in the breeding and01:13:09
wintering areas. If we go more home and01:13:12
also around the house I say national because01:13:15
maybe recently also as I said01:13:17
in the previous work on the European turtle dove,01:13:19
which is evidently a species01:13:21
of great news time lara the same01:13:24
the analysis of this information also01:13:26
allowed us to detect, for example, that01:13:28
there are more declines in areas that were01:13:30
predominantly forestry compared to01:13:32
agricultural ones, which has also01:13:34
allowed us to put on the01:13:36
international table the fact that we01:13:38
also have to deal with01:13:40
forest management in addition to agricultural management01:13:43
when designing01:13:45
conservation policies for this species,01:13:47
then to summarize what are the01:13:49
opportunities and limitations of using01:13:53
programs such as the blood program for01:13:55
scientific research, well, I say again,01:13:57
for me it is a source01:13:58
essential data to answer many01:14:01
scientific questions and of course it is01:14:03
appreciated both for the01:14:05
spatial and temporal scale that things that01:14:07
could not be answered if01:14:09
this type of programs did not exist but01:14:11
obviously because if the treatment and01:14:13
analysis of said data can being01:14:15
complex, they require great01:14:17
human and scientific investment,01:14:18
the data cannot be taken as is to use them, let's say01:14:21
raw, to answer certain01:14:23
questions and in that sense, I01:14:25
wanted to emphasize in the end that it is01:14:27
citizen science to return to this because01:14:29
obviously it is the participation of The01:14:31
citizens put more01:14:35
curators of the information, which in this01:14:36
case is over the line, who have to do01:14:39
essential work not only in the01:14:41
coordination of data collection but also01:14:43
in the filtering01:14:45
of the initial01:14:47
homogenization treatment than in other01:14:50
citizen science programs.01:14:52
Other scientists can obviously carry out01:14:54
the analysis, some of01:14:56
those scientists are in seo birdlife01:14:58
directly but also from the01:15:00
integration of other scientists in the01:15:02
scientific community and put and at the end01:15:04
of the end users01:15:05
Ramón Martí is also said at the beginning one of01:15:08
the objectives of this type of programs01:15:11
is that they are useful to society,01:15:13
then obviously having more01:15:14
collaboration with end users of01:15:18
conservation,01:15:20
administration management, since it also allows us to01:15:22
first develop questions that are01:15:25
useful and know how to answer them with the01:15:29
validity and particularities01:15:33
of the limitations. of this type of01:15:35
data and there I am, thank you all,01:15:40
stop sharing, here we are,01:15:43
thank you01:15:49
very much, thank you very much, coming for your vision01:15:52
of the world from a scientific point of view01:15:54
is great for us and good01:15:57
that you are not wasting a few minutes,01:15:59
we will respond for you and yes made01:16:01
that to be you worry you01:16:02
thank you for your help01:16:04
well now and at the level01:16:07
of Belgium and person of the film the01:16:12
European once in his parties is going to give01:16:14
an international vision of these01:16:16
works01:16:18
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go ahead01:16:22
hello my days to all01:16:28
but I have to01:16:36
I have to share it01:16:41
for free01:16:46
good morning everyone first of all I01:16:49
want to thank seo birdlife for01:16:52
inviting me to the name of l pss to01:16:56
explain a little what the01:16:59
contributions of this program are, it was created in01:17:01
Europe01:17:03
elvis and it is an organization that01:17:06
tries to unite all the institutes01:17:11
expert organizations in01:17:13
bird monitoring in Europe and we have the objective01:17:16
of gathering the best01:17:21
possible data on the01:17:23
distribution and01:17:27
change of bird populations in01:17:29
Europe to have better data to01:17:31
support the conservation of these birds01:17:35
and we have three large projects one is01:17:38
the good one is where are the birds good01:17:42
the distribution of birds at the01:17:45
European level with the European atlas that we have01:17:49
the second edition that was published01:17:53
last December in the month of01:17:56
last December is a masterpiece of01:17:58
European ornithology also seo01:18:01
birdlife has participated a lot to01:18:03
prepare all this work01:18:06
a second project is the dog see by01:18:09
tyler but for total dot org it is a01:18:12
portal that tries to unite all the01:18:14
data that comes from the portals of the01:18:17
large citizen science portals01:18:19
in ornithology that are gibert observed01:18:24
and all the01:18:26
[Music] portals01:18:27
in Europe01:18:31
and01:18:32
[Music]01:18:34
and then this this project allows us to01:18:38
see across the entire continent what01:18:40
bird observations are like all01:18:44
year round and the third program is the one that01:18:47
interests us today it is the European bread as in01:18:51
word monitoring skin it is good it is a01:18:53
very long name and English speakers01:18:56
use the initials and pronounce it01:18:58
quickly small something like that01:19:01
and this program this project01:19:04
good is the idea is to unite all the data01:19:07
that comes from the program as is believed,01:19:09
but in all of Europe there are 28 countries where01:19:13
there is a monitoring program, as is01:19:16
believed, and in total it is estimated that there are 15 -01:19:21
mythologists who go out into the field to count01:19:24
birds in spring each year,01:19:27
which allows us to have01:19:29
population trends of 17001:19:32
significant species. In Europe01:19:35
throughout the continent and the focus is01:19:38
more on the terrestrial or most01:19:40
abundant species, that is, the birds of our01:19:43
general environments, the agricultural areas,01:19:46
the forests and well, our01:19:49
general environments and how each01:19:53
country works, like here, the sacre has to01:19:56
do its job. field sample many times01:19:59
with many volunteers trained and01:20:01
dedicated to recognizing the birds01:20:05
and each country can do it in its own way01:20:08
because some prefer to make a fixed point01:20:12
each year the same points others01:20:15
prefer to think of the birds walking01:20:18
in transit lines but the01:20:20
important thing is that All programs01:20:23
have to follow the01:20:25
general recommendations of the PSC Jeep to have01:20:29
a minimum standardization to be able to01:20:32
analyze the data in01:20:36
some way01:20:38
and that is the second stage is the01:20:43
organizers in each country is to know01:20:46
what in the case of the sacré They collect all01:20:48
the field data and analyze01:20:51
population trends using01:20:55
the trim program many times, as Virginia has already said, and then they01:20:59
can have national trends and01:21:01
also the good thing with climate is that01:21:03
the results of the car can be sent01:21:06
directly to the coordination of the01:21:09
small one that is located in Prague01:21:13
what they do is they put together01:21:20
new trends of all species01:21:22
to have European trends but it is01:21:26
important to know that01:21:28
the weight of each country is clearly taken into account in this case01:21:31
why01:21:33
a Although it is much more abundant in a01:21:35
country, it is logical that its trend has01:21:38
more weight when calculating01:21:42
European trends. The good thing about01:21:45
this coordination is that feedback can be given01:21:48
on the results at the01:21:52
national level, that is, we have a01:21:55
control but plus a review of the01:21:57
data and the way we01:21:59
calculate the sample, for example,01:22:03
a way of our way of calculating01:22:06
the data at the national level gives us01:22:09
jazz feedback and so we can ensure01:22:12
that we do it well in all countries01:22:15
and The third stage is also done by the01:22:18
people of Prague from the01:22:20
Chic Ornithological Society of the Czech Republic.01:22:25
As I have already explained, Virginia,01:22:28
they do a median of the trends01:22:31
of the species by habitats by01:22:34
ecological types of the species and thus01:22:37
we can calculate multi-01:22:39
species indicators, one of the most important and best01:22:42
known is the agricultural bird indicator. The01:22:46
index has played01:22:49
a very important role at the01:22:51
political level because we have been able to see01:22:54
that something was happening, something bad was happening in01:22:58
agricultural areas and that perhaps it has to01:23:02
change agricultural policy at the01:23:04
European level also a very important thing01:23:07
that at the scientific level is good01:23:11
has been done thanks to this data01:23:16
is to better understand what is really01:23:20
happening is happening with the01:23:22
biodiversity crisis because 20 or 30 years ago years,01:23:28
the biodiversity crisis many01:23:30
people thought was focused on the01:23:33
rarest, most spectacular or01:23:36
most charismatic species such as raptors or01:23:39
waterfowl,01:23:42
and in recent years, thanks to this01:23:44
data on the01:23:46
population trends of common birds, we have01:23:48
realized Well, maybe01:23:51
many birds01:23:53
that were rarer before, like01:23:57
these aquatic birds, are now01:24:01
better off under this protection. The01:24:04
conservation status is a little better, but on01:24:07
the other hand, there are many abundant species in01:24:10
our environments, such as the house sparrow01:24:12
or other species. more abundant01:24:15
are in decline and that is key to01:24:18
understanding what is really happening01:24:20
with this biodiversity crisis01:24:25
these results01:24:27
international indicators are used in01:24:30
many reports many many01:24:34
official institutes such as Eurostat or the European Court of01:24:37
Auditors for example that has come01:24:39
out a report on01:24:44
Europe's common agricultural policy,01:24:48
which has so far failed to stop the01:24:53
decline in agricultural biodiversity. A01:24:54
very important indicator in this regard01:24:57
is what is calculated with data01:25:02
from Sacre and all other European programs.01:25:07
This is what we have seen is that we have01:25:11
used a lot of data so far01:25:14
more than 3501:25:16
international publications on the effect of01:25:19
climate change as we have already seen01:25:22
thanks to Beatriz and some other studies01:25:26
that can also be done are to compare01:25:29
trends between different01:25:31
European countries for example In this case the01:25:33
European starling,01:25:36
which in Europe has a bad situation01:25:40
in general, these species01:25:45
since it also uses01:25:47
agricultural spaces a lot has lost 70% of its01:25:51
population in 40 years but this is in01:25:55
general but if we look in each country01:25:57
there is a lot of difference in There is a lot of contrast01:26:00
in the situation in the west and north of01:26:03
Europe, we have a very01:26:05
negative situation with the very strong loss of01:26:07
their troops, however, in the01:26:11
center or east of Europe there is this01:26:16
species, there is even a command01:26:18
commenting on their quite strong troops01:26:22
in Spain. Ayala declared other species01:26:25
as well but the situation is quite01:26:27
positive as well and so with01:26:30
this these differences in trend we01:26:34
can try to coordinate with other01:26:36
information for example how I know how01:26:40
the use of practices are changing01:26:43
at the agricultural level one01:26:46
hypothesis we have is01:26:48
These01:26:50
differences can be explained with the change in01:26:53
agriculture, which is a little different in01:26:56
the European countries in the north and01:26:59
west of Europe.01:27:00
For example,01:27:03
livestock farming is changing a lot at the moment, there are much fewer cows01:27:06
in the meadows, they are simply raised more.01:27:09
the cows inside the jugs and01:27:11
then01:27:13
we can think that the insects01:27:15
that depend on this habitat of01:27:21
earned degrees are also good that perhaps01:27:24
the abundance of these insects is01:27:26
changing and can affect, we think it is01:27:30
a hypothesis, a species like the01:27:33
starling because it needs these insects01:27:35
For the food of their chicks,01:27:40
we have01:27:44
very important work on indicators at the01:27:48
European level that allows us to understand01:27:50
the biodiversity crisis much better. In01:27:53
the future, we wait for the start of all01:27:57
the organizations that are part of it.01:28:03
of more species also from01:28:07
more countries such as southeastern Europe or01:28:09
Russia,01:28:11
there we also need to know what is01:28:13
happening with birds and we also01:28:16
want to integrate more other data from the01:28:19
environment or even from other other01:28:22
animal groups to better understand what01:28:25
the things of the trends that01:28:27
we observe in bird populations01:28:30
well and in the end there is nothing to01:28:34
say that the role of observers01:28:36
and coordinators of the sacré is fundamental01:28:38
for this project because Spain has01:28:40
an importance01:28:43
in many many birds in, for example,01:28:47
agricultural areas well and01:28:51
thank you very much to everyone and especially to all01:28:53
the seo birdlife volunteers,01:28:56
congratulations and well, we hope to see the01:29:00
sacre for many more years.01:29:05
I think we have a very good global vision01:29:07
and finally,01:29:11
Pablo is going to intervene and give us a01:29:14
vision of the contribution of all this01:29:16
information01:29:18
to the conservation work in01:29:19
silverlight and also what it could01:29:22
contribute to entities such as01:29:24
administrations or other organizations,01:29:31
thank you Juan Carlos well, for my01:29:34
part, as Juan Carlos says, the idea01:29:38
is to tell how, well, the01:29:41
sacre program contributes to carrying out01:29:45
conservation actions with all this information01:29:47
that we obtain I'm01:29:51
going to share the screen01:29:54
[Music]01:29:55
let's see the presentation01:29:59
well the first of all is that I think01:30:03
we are in luck as we have already01:30:06
said01:30:08
and especially within the ones that01:30:11
because the The program is one of the01:30:14
key elements of its DNA.01:30:17
It is a good program that complies with01:30:21
all the actions that I know01:30:26
and that are developed from scratch. I01:30:30
am having problems sharing01:30:34
if you see it now because I already see it in the01:30:38
presentation,01:30:42
I am going to give it01:31:05
okay,01:31:07
yes. I am going to give it as a presentation01:31:13
because nothing, as the program said,01:31:16
grows is almost one of the most01:31:21
distinctive features of the desire to touch everything,01:31:23
all the environments in which it is believed and01:31:25
finally not as it is01:31:28
and bet on this battalion of our01:31:31
partners and supporters that is going out01:31:33
into the field01:31:34
twice each spring is to bet01:31:39
on that scientific profile that we have and01:31:42
that makes us unique or almost unique in the01:31:47
national panorama01:31:49
and on citizen science and on01:31:52
involving all this in01:31:54
conservation actions based on evidence01:32:00
aspects key to our organization01:32:03
so well simply result in01:32:07
the truth that this presentation that will01:32:09
serve transversally to all those that have been01:32:11
made so far because well it01:32:13
includes elements that have been treated01:32:15
to give it a touch more of conservation01:32:18
and well the objective of the sacre program01:32:22
This is to know the state of01:32:23
conservation of common birds of all01:32:25
types, especially these small birds,01:32:28
which are the most representative01:32:30
in sampling work, while01:32:34
other species require01:32:35
specific programs. We see ourselves in01:32:37
aquatic birds of prey, although They can01:32:39
obtain certain trend indicators01:32:42
through the sacré, but well,01:32:45
knowing this trend has much more to it01:32:47
and it gives us01:32:50
tremendous information01:32:53
to work on the conservation of01:32:55
throwing. As you will see, the first aspect is01:32:59
that we have01:33:01
three key factors to to be able to01:33:04
use the sacre to work on01:33:06
bird conservation one is the01:33:10
distribution of the participants01:33:13
this graph that Virginia has already shown01:33:16
before the participation of the secret01:33:18
shows how there is a distribution although01:33:21
there are certain areas in which also due to01:33:24
the size of the population There is much more01:33:26
participation but we have a very good01:33:28
distribution of participants and01:33:30
grids sampled each year. In addition01:33:34
to that distribution, the01:33:35
number of those more than 1,000 people who01:33:38
are going out into the field is important, as it is assumed in01:33:40
my grids, although they are done every01:33:42
year and this It is a tremendous volume of information01:33:47
and thirdly it is the tendency to01:33:49
have a long series of data01:33:52
observing 25 years, well, 25 years of01:33:56
monitoring common birds of small01:34:00
birds01:34:03
is a tool that,01:34:05
well, in general a large amount of01:34:07
information01:34:10
as we will see as already have arisen in01:34:12
some previous experiences and01:34:14
I will also show you in this one the fact of01:34:17
having such long series01:34:19
allows us to understand much better the01:34:21
functioning of the room because those01:34:23
small variations that some01:34:25
naturally suffer from fluctuations in their01:34:28
population or long-term fluctuations01:34:30
that we can see the changes in the01:34:33
trend, the trend is showing01:34:35
but we cannot stay in the01:34:38
linear trend from the year 98 to01:34:41
2020 2021 but rather we have to see01:34:44
what has happened throughout that period not01:34:46
because there may be disparate trends01:34:49
well one of The first examples of the01:34:54
usefulness it has in conservation is to01:34:56
highlight the01:34:59
conservation status of birds so that we are01:35:01
talking about studying specific species01:35:03
and many of you have known about the01:35:06
campaigns about the bird of the year that are01:35:08
based precisely on having01:35:10
detected that These species such as the01:35:12
sparrow, the swift, the swallow, the01:35:16
turtle dove in recent years or01:35:18
nocturnal birds such as the owl are only01:35:22
based on having this information01:35:24
that tells us that these species01:35:27
are suffering a population decline and01:35:29
we must pay attention to their01:35:31
conservation,01:35:32
then we have all this01:35:34
information that allows us to evaluate the01:35:37
state of conservation of the water. There are01:35:41
several that in fact the scoop could be01:35:44
useful for each of them, but01:35:47
really the great use it has is to01:35:49
evaluate this evaluation of the population01:35:53
and this balance. of the population with a01:35:55
participation that we have in Spain,01:35:59
in addition to a thousand people working01:36:01
more than 1,000 sampling points or01:36:02
10 by 10 kilometer sampling grids, it01:36:05
also allows us not only to01:36:07
know the ownership of birds but also to01:36:08
contribute, as I just mentioned.01:36:11
now contribute to knowing the01:36:13
conservation status of birds in Europe both01:36:16
on a large scale and those small01:36:17
differences that may exist on a01:36:20
regional scale due to different climates due01:36:23
to different uses of the territory, types01:36:26
of agriculture or livestock, as01:36:28
mentioned,01:36:30
types of forest environments, etc.01:36:33
but Not only that but in those01:36:35
areas in which we have a01:36:37
fairly representative participation on a01:36:40
regional scale we can determine the01:36:44
conservation status of the birds in01:36:45
these areas if one of the cases is the01:36:47
Valencian community in which well I01:36:50
explain it because it is the place where I01:36:53
work and you want me to eat all this01:36:55
information as coordinator of the01:36:57
monitoring programs and also as01:36:59
responsible for species and spaces01:37:02
within this office well, here01:37:05
in fact recently because we have been able to01:37:07
present the allegations to the new01:37:10
regional catalog of species threatened01:37:11
because we have a series of twenty-something01:37:14
years in which we can determine01:37:17
how the species have01:37:19
evolved in recent years and01:37:20
depending on how this01:37:23
criterion is viewed according to each species, we can warn01:37:26
about the decline of some species that01:37:27
the administration itself has not even01:37:29
has considered that there could be01:37:31
threats, for example it could be the01:37:33
common lark, one of these01:37:37
as autonomous does not say that it does not have01:37:40
information and we say that we do01:37:41
have that information and we01:37:43
put it at your disposal and this01:37:46
information is sufficient because01:37:48
we have a sufficient number of people01:37:51
working in the field and with a01:37:55
very wide temporal range because we can01:37:57
demonstrate that this species does meet01:37:58
this population detective criterion01:38:01
and should be cataloged and by virtue01:38:04
of that cataloging probably the01:38:05
objective is not to catalog but rather that this01:38:07
species deserves01:38:09
to be conserved deserves to be applied01:38:12
direct conservation actions on01:38:14
it and on its animals.01:38:17
Another characteristic example is01:38:20
the European turtle dove and not only these01:38:25
charismatic species but also other01:38:28
species that are good because we are making01:38:29
this decline known, those01:38:33
common species, not the swallow. the01:38:35
shrike lions and so on. It's good that01:38:38
they are disappearing. We can talk about01:38:40
a broad geographical scale, but01:38:42
we can also define in each region what01:38:44
this decline is like because even there01:38:46
are eclipse species that in01:38:49
some of the regions are not01:38:53
and well, what I mentioned01:38:55
previously the usefulness of having01:38:57
such long time series allows us to01:39:00
understand the fluctuations much better01:39:04
and even in other European countries in01:39:06
which this program has been developed01:39:08
long before, as we saw in the01:39:10
previous presentation, the information01:39:11
also allows a much greater analysis01:39:15
here for For example, with the red partridge in01:39:17
the Valencian community, since we could01:39:19
speak from the year 98 to 2020 of a01:39:23
certain stability of the population,01:39:25
we are more or less in the01:39:28
starting situation of that beginning year that is01:39:31
considered the beginning for the analyzes01:39:34
but really during Throughout this period,01:39:36
the red partridge has first suffered an01:39:38
increase or has experienced a fairly01:39:41
large increase in its population. Subsequently, it has01:39:44
experienced a few years of stability and in01:39:46
recent years it has experienced a decline because01:39:49
we cannot stop at considering what01:39:51
the red partridge is in this case to give01:39:53
an example in the Valencian community01:39:55
remains stable but we can01:39:57
have to say01:39:58
in fact we say that we must be01:40:00
alert because in the01:40:02
last ten years this species is suffering a01:40:04
decline that is not yet significant to01:40:06
be considered professionally as01:40:08
a species threatened01:40:10
as vulnerable but we must01:40:13
raise the alarm about01:40:15
possibly in 23 years it could already be01:40:18
considered a vulnerable species,01:40:19
so we should not wait for01:40:21
this species to meet the criteria01:40:24
like others it shares its habitat,01:40:26
but we can already begin to01:40:29
focus on the urgent need to act on it01:40:33
and then not only the information01:40:37
obtained from virginia, we do not only work01:40:41
with species, we can know how01:40:45
the species that are grouped in01:40:48
different types of habitats are doing,01:40:50
obviously we all know the decline of01:40:55
agricultural birds a certain stability01:40:57
birds linked to bush environments01:41:00
and an increase not01:41:03
a moderate or even strong increase in01:41:06
some areas of forest and urban birds01:41:09
then we can obviously put01:41:12
the focus on agricultural birds, as has already been said many times,01:41:13
but not only that But01:41:17
within all these agricultural environments01:41:19
we can go into more detail about which ones01:41:21
are the most threatened01:41:25
and in this case not all01:41:27
agricultural environments are in decline and the same, but01:41:32
there are some that are01:41:34
experiencing major breakdowns and those01:41:36
that are It is necessary to act with greater01:41:38
urgency in this sense. I also wanted01:41:41
to comment that well, but these thousand01:41:43
volunteers01:41:44
who go out because they include me in the01:41:47
field to participate in the program, they01:41:50
think well, we are two minutes, two thousand01:41:53
ears and a thousand brains that we are01:41:56
also seeing what is happening in In the field, we01:41:57
cannot transmit all this01:41:58
information.01:42:00
All of this obviously serves to influence01:42:04
sectoral policies, especially01:42:07
in issues related to agriculture,01:42:10
which is possibly the environment in01:42:13
which birds are showing a01:42:14
greater decline and not only that but direct01:42:17
study efforts and conservation of01:42:19
species also as at the time01:42:20
of development with the case of the turtle dove01:42:23
but much more, many studies are also being done01:42:25
with other01:42:28
agricultural species with the royal charcoal such as the01:42:30
partridge and the quail and all these01:42:33
results that are being obtained in the01:42:35
program is that in some way01:42:37
they legitimize or also direct the need01:42:40
to launch these studies not01:42:43
only on our part but also on the part of01:42:44
the administrations that must know01:42:46
better how these habitats function01:42:50
and what the real threats are on a01:42:51
regional or global scale. to work01:42:54
on them01:42:56
and then also go into the detail of01:42:59
understanding it or clarifying certain trends,01:43:02
such as forest birds, for example,01:43:04
it is a species that, to the extent that01:43:07
the forest territory is increasing01:43:08
throughout Spain, they are also seeing01:43:12
positive trends, this again is01:43:16
the trends of four01:43:19
forest species the Valencian community01:43:21
and all of them are experiencing01:43:23
large increases but of course we cannot say01:43:27
with this data alone that the01:43:29
forest environments are in a good state of01:43:30
conservation because the birds linked to01:43:33
these environments are doing well but it01:43:35
also has to qualify and All of these01:43:36
species that are suitable are also01:43:39
very generalist species, they are species closely01:43:41
linked to01:43:45
forest formations, some01:43:47
pine forests and so on, while those that01:43:49
depend more on those mosaics or those01:43:51
more mature forests with other types of01:43:53
formations. with lines01:43:56
and well, those internal mosaics of01:43:58
bushes and so on, such as the01:44:01
lucas buntings and so on, because they are not doing01:44:04
so well,01:44:05
the fact of seeing an increase in01:44:08
forest birds helps us,01:44:11
we see that the forests are increasing,01:44:14
but in the output, interpreting that this01:44:16
increase is not It is necessarily positive, not01:44:20
as if we did, it cannot have many01:44:22
nuances01:44:23
and finally,01:44:27
this is all this information, it also01:44:30
serves the administrations themselves01:44:31
as a source, it is the01:44:34
most solid and comprehensive source of information available for01:44:36
all reports on the state of01:44:38
conservation of Biodiversity is an01:44:40
obligation of the administrations both01:44:42
at the regional, national and international level,01:44:47
then I will comment again on the01:44:49
importance of the influence on01:44:51
sectoral policies that the entire01:44:52
program has for the definition of01:44:56
sectoral policies because we are, for01:44:57
example, in the In the case of birds and01:44:59
insectivorous agricultural environments,01:45:02
we are seeing that there is a program,01:45:03
a problem that these birds are01:45:05
indicating to us and that in fact the very01:45:09
functioning of the shakhtar that we01:45:11
are obtaining serves to01:45:12
monitor these policies that01:45:16
can be applied. being successful in01:45:18
its application or not,01:45:20
on the other hand, the program since it01:45:23
is also an indicator of well-being,01:45:24
we all know the multitude of01:45:27
study information that exists on01:45:29
how the fact that01:45:33
salves do well is linked to an01:45:36
indicator of social well-being or human,01:45:39
on the other hand, evaluate the impact of01:45:41
certain projects not only on a small01:45:45
scale in places where01:45:47
trends are available, as is the case in01:45:50
some regions or some areas within01:45:53
regional regions and so on, but on a large01:45:56
scale, we have just seen the example of01:45:59
how changing a01:46:02
livestock system from grazing01:46:05
cows01:46:07
in an open system from extensive livestock farming01:46:09
to a change from intensive livestock farming01:46:11
can influence or lead01:46:14
to major changes in01:46:16
bird populations not only at a regional level but on a01:46:18
large continental scale, well in summary, we01:46:24
consider that information01:46:28
is the main tool to be able to01:46:30
conserve biodiversity and to the01:46:33
extent that this program is importing,01:46:35
it is providing an enormous amount of01:46:38
information, it gives us a great capacity to01:46:41
act and conserve all01:46:43
scales of that local, regional01:46:45
and national scale01:46:48
and the more information we have, the01:46:50
better, so we cannot be content with01:46:52
having this great implementation and this01:46:55
great participation of all of us.01:46:57
Furthermore, each year we seek to01:46:59
increase this participation because it will01:47:01
generate even greater tools and greater01:47:03
power to work in conservation01:47:07
so nothing finally, thank you01:47:09
[Music] for01:47:11
participating in this webinar but01:47:14
especially thank all the01:47:16
participants01:47:19
because these two thousand eyes 2000 ears that01:47:22
are in the fields of this battalion of01:47:23
volunteers01:47:25
are providing all this information and01:47:27
that they can also see how it01:47:29
contributes to those haystack days,01:47:32
those two mornings of having a good time01:47:34
watching birds, how it can01:47:36
effectively contribute to their conservation, so01:47:40
many, many thanks to you and01:47:43
Pablo, it's good, I was virtual chat on01:47:48
YouTube, you can ask some questions01:47:50
yes, in addition to those that have already been asked that01:47:53
we have been answering and while01:47:56
some more appear where we can thank01:47:58
all the participants for our01:48:00
intervention on websites to help01:48:02
your contributions, thank you very much to01:48:05
everyone01:48:07
during the chat, a question arose01:48:10
if from Portugal if all these01:48:13
practices of each species are on01:48:15
our website right now they have not01:48:17
been and we are preparing a01:48:20
new publication that is saved01:48:21
on the breeding birds in Spain and they01:48:24
are the guard01:48:37
information 62 x will be available01:48:40
through the internet01:48:44
Some people have also commented that to01:48:45
participate in this activity, how can they01:48:48
do it, well, let everyone know that01:48:51
there is an online application in addition to the01:48:53
mobile application, a project seems to be mentioned01:48:54
in the field called www points in everything01:48:59
about birds point heretic and from that website01:49:02
You can access all the forms of01:49:04
monitoring we sacre You01:49:05
can also see the instructions, the files01:49:08
and how to participate and choose your space01:49:11
where you want to participate so that it01:49:12
stays in your reserved space and that we do not01:49:14
duplicate ourselves, which then the01:49:16
scientists will call our attention01:49:17
because We ask questions about the01:49:19
applications of these technical things that01:49:21
they call and well, on that website01:49:24
you will have all the information to lend01:49:26
a hand and we remain open to any01:49:31
question and any question you may01:49:32
have about this matter01:49:36
and although no questions appear we01:49:41
will give it a couple of minutes someone else01:49:42
if they want to ask and while I01:49:44
also tell you that one thing01:49:47
I mentioned to Gorka who gave us a01:49:49
graph of the great ups and downs that01:49:52
appeared in his film and that is normal01:49:55
and he was referring to another that, as has already01:49:58
happened in other situations in One of the01:50:01
films that I participate in is01:50:03
completely agricultural and perhaps that is the01:50:06
reason why all the stations are01:50:08
from agricultural environments where01:50:12
what happens at the state level is so visually generalized,01:50:15
so well, each one is the01:50:18
graph that shows us value here. In what01:50:20
is happening in your grid in the01:50:21
mobile application, you will not only see the01:50:24
stations or the routes in the queues,01:50:27
two methods that can be participated01:50:28
where you have to participate when it is01:50:31
a space and when you participate in01:50:33
several sample units you no longer01:50:35
remember and I I stopped here if I stopped01:50:37
there if I was going here or I finished my01:50:39
journey there the mobile application01:50:41
tells you the mobile application01:50:43
allows you to enter the data very quickly01:50:44
and the mobile application01:50:45
what makes those graphs of what is01:50:47
happening in your grid but01:50:49
Obviously what happens in a01:50:51
grid is not representative of the01:50:54
national total - hence the great01:50:55
importance that we need so many01:50:57
participants so that we absorb the01:51:00
information of what happens specifically01:51:02
in each place, both at the autonomous community level01:51:04
and at the state level as well as at the national level.01:51:08
continent level as he told us01:51:10
there and he already showed us how the01:51:13
same species can have different01:51:15
trends in different regions01:51:19
for different reasons01:51:21
because the evolution and01:51:23
conservation problems of each01:51:24
species are01:51:26
normally not attributed to a single01:51:29
variant. But there are many issues,01:51:30
so well, we have to do the01:51:33
work of many people to know01:51:35
precisely what is happening and01:51:38
extrapolate theft also to the01:51:40
general situation and if it is true that there is a01:51:42
very general situation on a continental scale, it is01:51:45
actually happening in Spain.01:51:50
where more species with01:51:52
unfavorable declines are concentrated and this not01:51:55
only because they give us01:51:57
very good information as you have seen throughout01:51:59
this exhibition to seek to identify01:52:04
a priority in all our01:52:06
conservation tasks on a national scale to an01:52:08
international level from airlife and01:52:11
on the other hand Well, they also allow us01:52:15
from the administration to01:52:16
identify and recognize this problem01:52:18
as they have recognized it and01:52:21
Brussels demands that they calculate this indicator01:52:24
well so that the agrarian policy changes01:52:27
and so that our management of the01:52:29
territory is not so abusive, it is01:52:32
directed at our own benefit01:52:34
exclusively and yes also for our01:52:37
own benefit because the well-being of01:52:38
nature obviously01:52:44
but if you allow me thank you well01:52:48
I wanted to once again thank all the01:52:52
speakers and all the attendees for their01:52:55
interest in this initiative and01:52:57
I especially want to convey the greeting01:52:59
and the gratitude from our director01:53:01
the solution ruiz who also had01:53:03
a key role in the origin of01:53:05
elsa I think she was not able to accompany us01:53:07
on this occasion and I wanted to thank you on01:53:11
her behalf for your participation and01:53:13
assistance01:53:14
and it has been very interesting the truth is01:53:18
el sacre It is an overwhelming reality It is01:53:21
tremendously useful information It01:53:24
has shown very clear examples Gianni01:53:26
Gracias of what is happening in Europe and01:53:30
how we can and should better interpret01:53:32
these data Maybe maybe of course01:53:34
without forgetting the continuous generation01:53:37
and updating of data We must also01:53:39
focus more on the analysis of this01:53:42
information of this very valuable01:53:43
information already accumulated to be able to01:53:46
apply intervene better in01:53:49
specific conservation issues from the01:53:50
cataloging of species that we01:53:53
cannot stop at, as Pablo has very well said,01:53:54
not only in cataloging but also that01:53:56
conservation must be ensured. from01:53:57
the same to01:54:00
sectoral policies or others, not then that01:54:03
finer analysis is to that concern01:54:06
almost not to get more juice out of the01:54:09
invaluable data of the sacré must be01:54:11
something in which we have to make an01:54:13
effort in the future and they are also01:54:15
doing it in In that sense, many01:54:18
of the scientists, organizations and01:54:20
research institutions that are01:54:22
taking advantage of these data to01:54:24
obtain even better information and all of01:54:27
this also contributes to consolidating the01:54:29
usefulness and interest of the program.01:54:31
Thank you01:54:35
very much. Well, thank you very much01:54:37
everyone. There is one last question and In case01:54:42
any of you answer and01:54:45
ask why the01:54:47
sparrow is in decline,01:54:50
I think there are numerous causes but01:54:51
perhaps some of you want to detail it a01:54:53
little more and with this we close and we01:54:56
thank smart areas and01:54:57
thousands of participants who have made01:54:59
this possible. You have Some new01:55:01
comment01:55:08
and well, the cause of the decline of the01:55:13
sparrow is, as Juan Carlos said, there are01:55:15
many.01:55:16
In fact, in science and especially in01:55:19
mythology, we cannot balance the interrelationships01:55:21
that the sparrow has with the terrestrial equal01:55:23
when exposing with its environment, there is no01:55:26
single answer01:55:27
for On the one hand, the run is not a bird that is01:55:31
considered a large bird, but during the01:55:32
breeding season it needs a lot of01:55:35
animal protein and to a large extent because it is one of01:55:37
the great victims of the01:55:41
collapse of insects, not of01:55:44
invertebrates, both in agricultural environments.01:55:47
As in how in cities, control of01:55:50
the causes is the loss of01:55:52
nesting places, this yes, higher capitation in01:55:54
the part of cities,01:55:56
urban centers due to restoration,01:55:59
rehabilitation of housing, etc.01:56:02
and well, there is also a part of01:56:04
environmental pollution that influences01:56:08
their state. physiological in its ability to01:56:10
respond to its physiological stress, which has01:56:14
also been shown to be much01:56:15
greater in cities than01:56:20
in agricultural or rural environments, which is why it01:56:26
was declared bird of the year, which tells us01:56:30
a lot about how We must live in01:56:33
cities, it is not how we need01:56:35
a healthy nature around us01:56:38
to integrate nature conservation,01:56:44
thank you very much Pablo, good for closing,01:56:47
well, what has been said, thank you very much to all01:56:50
the scales since you helped us get01:56:53
this started at all. the state from not01:56:56
only those of us who participate01:56:57
directly in this work in the01:56:59
back because all many people from01:57:02
communication administration and from01:57:04
all01:57:05
the departments who have01:57:06
contributed for so many years to this01:57:09
activity, many thanks to the01:57:12
autonomous communities that have collaborated01:57:15
have already contributed and have recognized this01:57:17
usefulness and for many years many have01:57:19
supported it in a very very big way to the state01:57:23
that in its day also supported fcc and ver01:57:27
light that support this system on an01:57:28
international scale and finally to all01:57:31
the participants from the colors the01:57:33
regional coordinators who are a01:57:34
few dozen to the thousands of01:57:37
participants who yes millions well this01:57:38
would be impossible so thank you very much01:57:41
for you01:57:42
and see you in the next one01:57:49
thank you very much to all thank you very much01:57:51
your ladyDescription:
Participantes Presenta y modera: Juan Carlos del Moral, coordinador de Ciencia Ciudadana de SEO/BirdLife. Programas de seguimiento en SEO/BirdLife y especial sacre en España, sistema de trabajo e implicación de los ornitólogos Maite Pelacho. Coordinadora del Observatorio de la ciencia ciudadana en España. Fundación Ibercivis. Ciencia Ciudadana en España Ramón Martí. Director de Desarrollo Institucional SEO/BirdLife. La llegada del programa Sacre a España Virginia Escandell. Coordinadora del Programa Sacre en España, participación, evolución y resultados Gorka Belamendia. Socio de SEO/BirdLife y Centro de Estudios Ambientales, Ayuntamiento de Vitoria-Gasteiz. Mis 25 años de experiencia en Sacre y apoyo a SEO/BirdLife. Voluntario del programa Sacre Jean-Yves Pasquet. Communications Officer Board EBCC y Responsable del Departemento de Estudios para Natagora (BirdLife en Belgica). Sacre en Europa y sus aportaciones Beatriz Arroyo. Investigadora científica del CSIC en el IREC. Importancia de los datos para la ciencia y las publicaciones científicas. Pablo Vera, Técnico de SEO/BirdLife. Delegación de SEO/BirdLife en la Comunitat Valenciana
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