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Путешественник Константин Журавлёв – о трех годах в плену в Сирии

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Включение со съемок из пограничной зоны

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О путешествии с бюджетом 100 рублей в день

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О причинах, побудивших ехать через Сирию

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О первых часах после ареста

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О камере и пытках

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О переезде в одиночную камеру

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О питании в тюрьмах

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О попытках побега

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О жизни в Алеппо – эпицентре войны

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О приключениях

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О вербовке в ИГИЛ

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Об антироссийской пропаганде

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Об освобождении

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Как не сойти с ума в плену?

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escape, but they were caught at Vian and shot,

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but they didn’t say so, and for eight days I lived

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with handcuffs on my arms and legs, I was

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sitting like that on a chair, my legs were

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fastened, my hands were fastened,

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you were like that behind the chair for eight days when

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they brought food if there is one guard I

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eat like this in handcuffs if there are 2 or

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more they stretch me to the toilet lead me to the toilet but

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I couldn’t advance because my muscles

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tense up they expand I was stretched I went to the

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toilet I was zipped up

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here from the toilet and zipped up here I sat down

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on the sofa and zipped up like this you’re sitting and

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like this wall 5 by you

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[music]

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and

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[music]

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people thank you very much for watching this

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interview I’m currently filming a

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new episode of how people live a

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very interesting and unusual place this is a

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border island on the border of two countries a

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closed border zone here it is, and

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later I’ll tell you what it is, this is the

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absolute real story of the video, my

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face is swollen, it means my lip is

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so swollen, it’s as if I was

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prescribed something so powerful in sparring, it’s like

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someone bit me, here’s another thing that’s a

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bummer, but here I am usually in such

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cases, I understand antihistamines, but

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against allergies, in general, it goes away, but

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the problem is that here, not in pharmacies, not

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in stores, almost nowhere do they

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accept cards by phone, you can’t

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proliferate only in cash, we found

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one single ATM, fortunately in it, I was

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just able to withdraw it, I finally - cash

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thanks to my favorite card in general,

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which always helps me out; it’s a

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card from alpha bank, 100 days without interest,

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and all that’s important is that I withdrew money without

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commission; what’s cool is that thanks to this

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card you can withdraw money from absolutely

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any ATM; we’re flying from here to

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other shootings, that is, Moscow, I will be back

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in two or three weeks and what’s cool is that I can

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return this money without interest,

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oh, and one more important news in

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September, alpha bank

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randomly selects 100

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people every day from those who applied and completed

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any one purchase on a credit card for

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100 days without interest so these people

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receive 5 thousand rubles each, there will be

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three thousand of these winners in total so

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many of you have a chance link you

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know where to find this lyadov and today

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my guest is Konstantin Zhuravlev a

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unique person he was held captive by the

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militants for

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three years until it turns out that it was exactly from

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October 13 to October 17 October 13, that

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is, at that time, ISIS was still here itself,

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we were just starting to

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appear, as they say, tell us

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a little about yourself, what are you up to at that

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time I was working and

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and how did you end up then Vika’s lips

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well it turned out so I quit one day

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and started traveling vodka once the

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day before captivity I drove through it like light

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alone hitchhiking I was an engineer and

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in general participated in the development of

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power supply for spacecraft

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was more or less office work or

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when the date when you have to sit at

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work from 8 to 5 years of course was very

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depressing, so we just came one day and

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put a statement on the table during

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vacation on a mucus day, took such a

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small backpack, a sleeping bag with a tent,

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went on the first trip and you quit, which

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means and how I would have quit with a plan or

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what and what kind of plan did you have in general I

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didn’t have a plan I just wanted to

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transform something for myself and as an option

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I saw this trip but I didn’t

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have a lot of money I was like that, well

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people hitchhike some are

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traveling somehow not this is what we all do,

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I’m familiar with the tent, I go out, well, I’m an

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Estonian author, you studied and worked,

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and I just go out across the river, I approach gas

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stations there, I stop cars, cars

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don’t stop in 2-3 hours, we

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had more to do, well and truckers and

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cars, that is, when their Tomsk I

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reached the Krasnodar region, Karim

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Western Ukraine in Lvov was in the

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Carpathians and the northernmost one

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reached Murmansk and

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all the whole day and who did it for me in

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90 days spent 9000 rubles and 100

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rubles a day I had a budget from this

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money, I sent two more parcels to

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Chelyabinsk, unnecessary things from Veliky

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Novgorod, there were cold and

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warm and cold to replace me, some parents will

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go 100 rubles a day, I made it

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in 90 days, 100 rubles a day is for

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something spent fever bread water milk

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tomatoes cucumbers and then they were still at a

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normal price buckwheat is the main thing

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because there is a metal lid you

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then splash the buckwheat with a little salt you

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go to a cafe in the dining room in a restaurant

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anywhere where there is boiling water well, it’s

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clear from you that you are a traveler, you guys are like that

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add boiling water, they add it, and

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that means you go out onto the highway there in a

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plastic bag so that it

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cools down longer, or you already sit down

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because you’ve already been driving and that’s it, and for 20 minutes the

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buckwheat smells like it’s a

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real Orion, here you are, so it was

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longer, I’m so postal, I’m up to at home before eating

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I will have 18 thousand kilometers

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approximately, then stop half the

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equator to hear so maybe I can

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hitchhike around the world

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and if you ask the

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budget for my trip around the world 5

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continents if we count Europe Asia

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Africa Latin South soft North

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America got stuck unfortunately I missed

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38 countries along this entire route,

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seven hundred and seventy-seven days. By the way, I

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returned on my birthday. I specifically

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guessed what date I needed to leave.

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My budget is 250,270 thousand rubles, that is, that’s

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10 thousand ten eleven

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thousand rubles a month. I rented out apartments

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in Tomsk, a one-room studio. for ten

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and for this ten I made a

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round-the-world trip from this money, half of the

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money I spent on air travel,

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can you imagine, there is Tomsk there,

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Finland, the Baltic states, then I do

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n’t get to South Africa through the Middle East along South Africa, but I

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hitched a ride, well, there were two

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ferries from Helsinki to Tallinn from

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Jordan then I paid something like 26

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euros plus minus everything else was free in the

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summer of 1913 and I

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had a desire to spend 21 days in the

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Sahara desert there is a place called the

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white desert wider a very beautiful place

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there used to be there for a number of

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millions of years ago there were my oceans and there were

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a lot of

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these white limestone rocks and you

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know, there are limestone mushrooms, well, in

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short, I hung there in the tenth year in the

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eleventh year in January when I saw

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types around the world and there

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was a desire to live there for 21 days with my

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eyes and ears closed in silence, well, in general

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Relatively speaking, there is enlightenment to get the

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third eye to open, but everyone

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decided to fly and the leaders had to sell

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one day with their eyes closed to the desert,

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but there we get killed here, you can’t

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understand the state when we are in the

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noise when we have a city, I went there, there are

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some responsibilities it’s all

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very distracting, it’s really such a noise, and

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the further you go, even in the forest there are

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birds, there is water, there is a plant, that is, there is some kind of

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life, it is

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felt at some levels, but there I just

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lived for three days on my future trip around the world.

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I felt a very strong

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purity, that is, these background

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nothing was there as much as possible, the line between the silence

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the floor was complete silence,

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sound silence, energetic silence there, I don’t

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know at what levels you not only

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see it, but why are you the only one feeling from it

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that well, probably energetic then

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informational because all the same, all

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these fields and there are 40 kilometers in one

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direction, a small village there 30 40 in the

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other roads where it takes half an hour for a car

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1 to pass if God forbid it goes all

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7 kilometers and you are really alone in

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Turkey,

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met in different places with different

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people somewhere there, I even got to a wedding

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and when the Turks found out that I wanted to

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go through the series in Jordan Vinnie, there

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is a war on my heels, then TTP proud you know, there is a

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war going on here, I need to explain the 2013 series,

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this is absolute hell, the title has been going on for two years now, the

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civil war has been going on the war and if not

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deeply by you and there is about everything with

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everyone the main force is the army of Syria led

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by President Bashar al-Assad in 2015 it is

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officially supported by Russia the opposition

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is a free Syrian army not one of these

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12 supported by the United States on the

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territory of Syria the Kurds are fighting for their interests

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a lot of dice la mic

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groups that either join

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larger armies or detach or

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cease to exist altogether for the country is

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captured by the banned group ISIS the

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war in Syria continues to this day I was

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the only thing I knew and many of us in

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the thirteenth year of places we knew before in the

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series what is going on - war who

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are freely the target of ISIS attack what is going on there what are

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they sharing there well

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almost no one knew well except those who

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give news there we all I say I

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want I feel what I need I

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approach the Turks to the border guards they they look at

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my passport, what kind of passport was it? kellys, it’s

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gone somewhere, no one will decide somewhere already,

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it’s a Turkish city, it’s right on the border, they’ve

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had enough,

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so I come to the Turks, they look at my

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passport, they understand everything, I don’t

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understand anything, they start explaining to me in Turkish

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yeah guys, I don’t

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understand Turkish, in English, they don’t

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understand anything, they’re bad, they can’t speak

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English, they’re

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shouting at me with their finger, showing me this

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gesture, what does it mean, I

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understand this divine, I don’t understand,

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yes, accept it, I don’t understand why you mean me

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then guys, I want everything

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in the end in about five minutes I’m tired of it on ebay, I’m tired of them

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like this, you stamped me, I

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sat down, they put a stamp, I go up to the

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last one, such a high gate is

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tubular, which means the border guard is the last

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round, and by the way, I showed you, look, there’s a

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peak day off, yes, it’s opening

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With a scarif I take a step, it closes behind me,

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but this same territory is between

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the sides and ours is free, it has no

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laws, right, it can almost be in the wrong

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direction and you will feel this freedom, I was

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also traveling to the desert partly for internal

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freedom, well, to open everything up, the feeling

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is completely free in another way, I

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mean I’m driving there about three hundred to four hundred meters,

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probably somewhere along the way, it means the main

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genotype of the advertising baths is hanging in

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English, it’s written fries and something is ok, I approach the

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border guards there is a black jeep, I

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show him my passport, he opens it, he

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understands everything, I I still don’t understand anything, but he’s

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asking me to sit down, Jack, he’s like that, I

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sit down, we sit there for another two hundred three hundred meters, we arrive

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at the first building, there’s some

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small

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factory there, which means there’s some guy there, an

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officer appears in a tall box, just like that, and it all starts with me

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in English.

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our Turkish doesn’t bring normal conversation in pure English, these are the

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cups that bring tea for tea,

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which means he starts asking like who am I

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where from where am I saying, well, I’m telling him

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that I’m traveling around the world, that I’m going to Egypt

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for someone, he opens the phone and

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I had it then sony ericsson simple

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push-button opens the map and says well,

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this road there means a sniper here is a

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sniper, I mean you understand, here the blades

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tell them maybe I’m there with yours

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somehow I can gradually get there to the

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border of the balance and

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he begins to explain to me the whole situation

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that is happening calmly or very

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politely, everything without pushing him, he says like,

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well, we are a free army, we are fighting

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against the president here, Russia supports the

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president,

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that is, he is our enemy, uniform, and here I

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understand this is only for companies, and here I

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understand that I am on the opposite side,

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usually you understand this, yes usually

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martial law, yes, there are some, the

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enemy has appeared, it doesn’t matter there is a soldier,

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not a soldier, a spy, not a spy, screens, which is

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a citizen of the enemy country, and because

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I can potentially be used, yes,

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there is a ransom, not a ransom, an exchange, not an exchange, that’s

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another question, but that’s all, and I’m weaving

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when he understands he says calmer

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where I will work half a kilometer to the

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border here com Kalashnikov assault rifles here

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I am so calmly hear guys

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all this danger is impossible to accept you

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can then

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well that’s it and they needed a command was given

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everything was scary no where else am I harry up

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on such adventures

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when the soldiers and officers arrived, and as

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I later found out, the general of the army

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was this lion’s tawhid, it was like the president of

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this group, he was there, but then

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of course they didn’t introduce me to the water, and

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after an hour and a half there they probably took a

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laptop phone, a leg, a crumb 3

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international passport and invited to get into the car

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and go somewhere, well, really, I

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understood that my some

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new adventure was beginning, a new journey,

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new stories, and so that is, it turns out

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that you are sitting in the car anti says

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buddy, the dates turn out to be from Putin,

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who supports Assad, with whom we

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we are fighting a little further, well, it was in the office

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before in the car, we all arrive there for probably

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half an hour, we drove there, we arrive, a very large

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large military base, a large high

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fence, there is a hangar with a large gate, there are

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also some outbuildings, such as a football field, a

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small field for football and basketball, and

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so on. everyone sat down on the bed here guys,

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some lights on the TV watching me

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there, that is, they took everything from you, and they

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took my electronics and my

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passport or background, they took my phone,

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computer, yes, everything is abandoned, but my hands are in

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handcuffs no no I was driving in the car

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I was sitting in the middle back to the right to the left of

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me, there were soldiers, an officer with this

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official, we were then there, the head of

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the prison was in one of the prisons,

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so we talked, for which I called him a lot, hmm

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this glize because akhmedov a lot, he

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spoke English well, inglisi

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English, so he threw this the phrase

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you are very lucky men you are such a

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lucky man I didn’t understand what it was and

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then as they explained to me if I

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crossed the border not here but

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further away I would have ended up with the kiwi catchers well I was

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free from it won’t work out if I

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were ISIS wouldn’t be sitting here right now,

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but I would have stayed there, and everyone

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arrived there, a little later,

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they assigned me to a prisoner’s cell there, to

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one cell, that is, and they brought this,

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but conditionally, it was

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some kind of makeshift prison, it was a former military base

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equipped as a prison, that is, a large one, let's say

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manga, it was divided into sectors

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beech with this and stone blocks such

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bricks and there is a chain-link mesh because the

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ceilings are high, as if to prevent the walls from being

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driven up to the ceiling

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blankets

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blankets bathroom well, if there is a large cell,

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let's say, then this is a solid wall or a

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high wall with an iron door, if this

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cell is me alone, then it’s literally a purely

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symbolic wall, that’s all, and

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nothing more, I’m asking like, what

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next, jaguar, like, well, you need to check

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that you’re not a spy, literally there two three

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four days, it

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took three years,

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because what I really say is about 34 days the

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next day the warden of the prison comes up to me

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when he came up I didn’t

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know it was the warden and

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he spoke to me in English I

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started talking again he started asking where what then

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then he was a very unpleasant

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person you can see the bastard right in his face

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so he starts asking at

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some point and we were standing in the hangar the

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kite moment pulls out a gun and

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introduces himself like this and just

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ask the head tilde like this he asks

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to shoot

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it would be twice on the second day he

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came up to me for the first time and on the third

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day the second once he came up and

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asked again, too, with a pistol, and on the

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first day when he asked, I said

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that well, in English, you ca

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n’t shoot, but I will still look at your

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eyes and smile, that’s how he did it,

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why did he introduce himself with a pistol to us,

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liveliness check there I’ll

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break I won’t break whether I’m telling the truth or not, well, in

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general, such bananas, he saw your

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reaction, she calmed him down, well, he apparently

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realized that I’m not the person who

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smells like something there or something else really

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because I already have behind me, the

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first trip was when I was sleeping on the

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street, constantly in some dangerous

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situations, I was assured of a spy, yes, yes, well,

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they positioned me like we

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arrested a Russian spy, she

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arrived a few days later in the Syrian news, which means the information was arrested, a

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Russian spy Globa UAV

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they scanned my passport and

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published it on Facebook on the page there

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in Arabic then I have friends pirveli

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how who found the color discovered like a

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Russian spy was arrested you happen to we

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will judge him according to our Sharia

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laws if in short something of mine so it

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means now it means there was a test the

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spy was presented to the head further on

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what happened I

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spent 12 days in this common cell

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at first there was one prisoner then he was

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taken out and gradually the cells were filled with

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four more and the

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cell was like a cell two meters

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wide and because we were lying across it it

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was only only I’m about

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eighty-three meters long and 1 2 3 4 5 0 5

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people long, we were lying there and there was a bathroom behind a

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wall, and there were checks on top,

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almost all the cells were three meters long, no, it was a

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manga hangar, it was fenced off

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for cameras, that is the ceiling there was

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high, but basically all the cells

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where I was, they were usually

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three meters high, both for four people there were

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five there

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were three people from the free

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army, I still didn’t understand what they

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did there, that they were imprisoned, that is, these

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people are not clay in the throat only

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like a slave, yes yes yes, can you imagine, we don’t

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know, I don’t know Arabic, they don’t know

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English, we, with these cellmates,

00:20:02

managed to laugh until we cried, not like

00:20:05

with us, they told some stories there, they

00:20:07

really laughed to tears, well, it’s like crying at night,

00:20:10

what? whether to sit, yes,

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and two of them were shown to me, one showed me with

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a ball and on the inner parts of the legs of the

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dear one there were scars, it seems in these

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parts and they gestured like this, that is,

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apparently they pulled it back with pliers

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and cut it off and they said that it was not

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these soldiers and some kind of geo and then

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when I already found out that there was ISIS, I realized

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that most likely they were in the hands of ISIS, that’s what

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they were doing and

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probably 89 days later I told the guys so

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and so I was actually driving in the desert to get

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there with my eyes closed, let me at

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least put a light bulb there alone,

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unscrew it, I’ll at least be there, with my

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eyes closed, in quotation marks,

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in the end I was moved, I wasted

00:21:03

there, that means I lost time all day, I

00:21:05

sat there during the day, that means some

00:21:08

security guy comes in, there mostly these

00:21:10

students will be of college age,

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what? - he tells me okay and I’m silent, get out

00:21:15

of here, everyone, I’m the only one here, get out of here, get out of here,

00:21:18

he leaves after half an hour, so to

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speak, someone comes in

00:21:24

again, I do this again, get out of here, claws, I’m sitting here, and

00:21:26

both of him and he speak to me in Russian. this is

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Abu Ali, and what’s more,

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the head of the prison spoke a little Russian to

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me once, he sent me three letters in

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Russian and Abu Ali speaks

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Russian well for six months, somewhere here, and the

00:21:42

version worked and he started talking to me

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in Russian to speak, I understand that this is the

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deputy chief of the term, it’s clear, I’m filming, you

00:21:49

can’t do this, let’s pack your things and

00:21:51

in the end I’m busy with my things, they blindfolded me, they

00:21:54

put me in the car, they took me out,

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this was the first moment of some kind of

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fear, our jitters

00:22:01

will decide that day, I remember I was sitting in a cell,

00:22:05

and more came in and said ballet deputy deputy

00:22:08

chief when he said, in short, stop the whole

00:22:11

thing, there was something else there and

00:22:14

then Mustafa, it seems, a young guy comes to me,

00:22:17

the security guard says let’s

00:22:19

pack your things, in general, we’ll take you with

00:22:22

gestures, come on, the prince, there’s a

00:22:25

car driving into the hangar

00:22:27

I don’t remember the white jeep and they weren’t blindfolded, and

00:22:31

from that moment the jitters began from 1 to

00:22:34

there in 12 days and we sat down, sat down, Mustafa sat down, the

00:22:39

head of the prison is

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Omar, I think his name is

00:22:43

and I grabbed Mustafa by the hand, that’s how I’m

00:22:46

holding it like this so that some kind of

00:22:48

contact would be made in the dark, we would go

00:22:51

somewhere nearby and they

00:22:54

took me along some

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corridors, everywhere

00:22:59

some kind of google seemed

00:23:01

endless to me, some ceilings where you are, there are

00:23:04

people sitting everywhere, something they speak

00:23:06

Arabic there, we went into solitary confinement,

00:23:09

it’s all with your eyes closed, you wanted to

00:23:13

turn on some kind of year, they throw

00:23:17

me back there, like there, there’s such energy here, some little guy in the

00:23:19

corridor, as I later found out, one second

00:23:22

third door was me here, so we

00:23:25

open it, turns me on and then

00:23:27

they take off my bandage, the

00:23:29

warden is standing, it seems they

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called me more, and to

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my left there is a very beautiful sand

00:23:38

wall, there are some painted stones and they are

00:23:41

also covered with such a sand mortar and

00:23:44

three walls are gray ordinary plaster 3

00:23:47

meters high, and in the ceiling along this

00:23:50

wall and there probably fifty by fifty

00:23:52

centimeters, a window with bars, if

00:23:56

not a large canopy from the rain, so that we are all

00:23:59

and garbage that some kind of dust from a Tau whale, I

00:24:02

don’t know, and I don’t remember from the leaves and straw

00:24:05

what it was and there are blankets lying around, not all of it,

00:24:08

tell me now these and and on the right there is a

00:24:11

toilet with a small wall, like

00:24:13

now you will live here and I

00:24:18

need something, I say yes, I want to

00:24:20

read the Koran, but I

00:24:22

don’t understand in Russian in English normally, you can

00:24:24

get them to us, we can he’s so mean,

00:24:27

he has a very broken face the view is written in

00:24:30

full, well, that’s all, the first thing I mean is the

00:24:33

camera, tidying up everything, raised

00:24:35

some kind of foam rubber, that means completely

00:24:37

while the world is about three and a half by

00:24:39

four meters, probably the camera was, I

00:24:42

mean I’m putting things in order, I’m putting some kind of dust in there, I’m

00:24:44

cleaning it with the toilet, I’m cleaning everything as if

00:24:47

honestly so that it was not a pig's

00:24:50

life, care, you live like a king and on

00:24:53

your cows and that's all, and the first thing in the

00:24:59

first days

00:25:00

when you find yourself in this emptiness alone, where did

00:25:02

you go until only

00:25:05

here you were forcibly imprisoned and

00:25:08

you begin to actively remember your the

00:25:11

past life is real, that is, the

00:25:13

brightest moments are a trip around the world

00:25:15

then childhood then after a

00:25:18

few days it gets boring you

00:25:21

start traveling in fantasies,

00:25:25

well, there with a girl a leg if a guy

00:25:27

shadows on a motorcycle situations you

00:25:29

imagine everything to us you see a mountain in the lakes

00:25:32

swimming in a few days it

00:25:34

gets boring

00:25:36

now the audience will think you've gone completely crazy, you

00:25:40

fly out to the moon on the moon, you race

00:25:43

in a car, it doesn't matter, oxygen isn't oxygen, you

00:25:45

race like you started on all sorts of them,

00:25:48

then you get bored and kind of

00:25:51

run away,

00:25:52

scattering means and dive the sun,

00:25:55

like the sun in the ocean, you swim then you

00:25:57

walk around the galaxy then you walk around

00:26:00

the universe, but it stretches out in

00:26:02

time, it’s gradually

00:26:04

because here we have a society of

00:26:08

friends, relatives, responsibilities of

00:26:10

work, the Internet, hobby, writhing, their

00:26:12

[ __ ] cloud, here you have four walls and a

00:26:16

ceiling, a floor, and

00:26:18

absolutely nothing, and so as not to go

00:26:22

crazy, the imagination of the brain begins to work in the

00:26:26

direction of just fantasy, this is how it is,

00:26:29

complete vacuum loneliness, this is how

00:26:32

they work

00:26:34

long-term, yes, but not for everyone, I

00:26:37

understand how much time has passed that you

00:26:40

started flying in the sun, I don’t

00:26:43

remember something new, but this is week 2, this is it, but

00:26:46

it is stretching because

00:26:49

-you get bored, you start talking about food and

00:26:52

come, let me run the data on the moon, you

00:26:54

start to go like he’s just like a

00:26:56

picture and it’s like, that is, you

00:26:59

get your how your day went and you

00:27:03

know this because in three years, two and a

00:27:07

half years I was in solitary here in

00:27:09

this cell there is no total amount at all, let's take

00:27:11

all my three years, by the way, I changed 21

00:27:14

cells

00:27:15

to numbers somehow a little like that and a

00:27:18

little bit aside from your question in

00:27:22

three years I changed regroupings 7

00:27:25

prisons and twenty-one cells magic I don’t

00:27:28

know what is this, but I went for three

00:27:30

weeks for 21 days in the desert, I

00:27:34

traveled around the world in three sevens in seven hundred and

00:27:36

seventy days, and here, of course, such crap is

00:27:39

in some cells in solitary confinement, but when there

00:27:43

were other cellmates, this was a completely

00:27:45

different group, there were such jokes

00:27:47

there, let’s say someone is knocking on your

00:27:49

wall, and after 2 you can still hear the

00:27:52

conversation of a soldier in the next building and

00:27:54

ask what you are doing, what

00:27:57

can you do here before I woke up, went

00:28:01

to the toilet, had breakfast there, well, in my

00:28:03

case, it was smoking freely, I take two

00:28:05

women like inside the cells, I even

00:28:08

had breakfast somewhere breakfast breakfast will be

00:28:10

brought for food brought in the cell it doesn’t

00:28:14

matter if you’re there than Carmen

00:28:16

in solitary confinement or in general tomorrow I’ll leave

00:28:18

brings a thrill mile hear the food was good

00:28:21

because well who pays for all this who is

00:28:26

west at the

00:28:27

state house oh the guards officer it’s like

00:28:32

all of me I learned this from them, they tell me this,

00:28:34

according to this measure, it gives money, they

00:28:37

fed eggs, boiled potatoes, tomatoes, and

00:28:41

anesthesia, its jam,

00:28:43

in general, it turns out that you were trying to fly with a

00:28:46

type of yogurt, some kind of chicken, there

00:28:50

was beef, but this was for dinner,

00:28:53

potatoes, pasta, that is, food there was

00:28:56

good food, there was a lot of it, and the prisoners

00:29:00

periodically

00:29:02

threw it out in the morning in the evening because tomorrow they

00:29:05

brought you fresh food, there wasn’t a hole in it, something

00:29:08

interesting, returned it for what

00:29:10

you mean because you can see it, I saw it, I

00:29:20

heard one, I don’t know in prison

00:29:24

some of the bills taking it well, let

00:29:27

me, when I was in this cell there was

00:29:29

an attempt to escape from the

00:29:32

next cell, which was in the main

00:29:34

part,

00:29:35

in the evenings I heard knocking, that is, it

00:29:39

turns out that this is the main load-bearing wall and

00:29:41

I heard some knocking and

00:29:44

some quiet conversations from there there were and

00:29:48

at some point Domnina's sidekick a

00:29:51

stone block fell, they apparently somehow the

00:29:54

two of the prisoners reached the top and

00:29:58

scraped off the top brick

00:30:01

because it didn't cling to the

00:30:03

metal canopy, it turns out that the

00:30:05

wall is climbed into the roof and they brick

00:30:08

there here are the roofs and yes, they were

00:30:10

scraping it out, yes there was a gap because

00:30:13

there was this

00:30:16

metallic colored slate and it and yes it

00:30:19

was not hooked

00:30:21

it was quite some distance most

00:30:25

likely sky all because in some

00:30:27

places I saw it in the main part they are

00:30:29

it the case was scraped out in a few nights,

00:30:32

I heard the whole thing and I didn’t say anything to anyone

00:30:34

because I didn’t know normally

00:30:38

they were people there because I saw that

00:30:40

innocent people were also arrested or

00:30:43

something like that with him, well, let’s say 1 cell

00:30:47

where I am Damn, you can see from them that they are normally

00:30:49

adequate people,

00:30:51

they haven’t done a damn thing and they are sitting in prison and then in

00:30:54

three years I really saw that from

00:30:56

time to time innocent people end up in prison, they

00:30:58

torture someone

00:31:00

smaller, someone bigger, and if it’s like a

00:31:03

soldier vidos corsi he is innocent, he is

00:31:06

released, for example, after the consequences, there were

00:31:08

many such cases and

00:31:10

I kind of think I don’t know the bad and the

00:31:13

good, they are innocent there, there is a

00:31:16

god, the gods of the universe, Allah, let them

00:31:18

decide there, and I will kind of remain silent and

00:31:21

some evening I hear they start to

00:31:24

climb out of there and I hear

00:31:27

metal steps and at some point a

00:31:30

shot and

00:31:33

the guards just heard these

00:31:35

metal steps come out into the yard

00:31:38

and saw somehow they saw there, I don’t know

00:31:41

or they didn’t fire warning shots,

00:31:43

I understand that there is someone there but also

00:31:45

they took it,

00:31:46

as they later told me when I asked

00:31:49

about this situation, they told them that we

00:31:51

shot many of them there in the meat part so that it wasn’t

00:31:54

as a punishment so that they wouldn’t

00:31:56

run away anymore, they were shot, they never

00:31:59

tried to run away, but they were caught in the Vian and

00:32:01

even shot, but they didn’t say that

00:32:04

because that after there, relatively speaking,

00:32:07

an hour or two, I don’t remember the time, I heard

00:32:10

a shot in addition to I then thought

00:32:12

that they were shot, so they told me that they were

00:32:15

shot, maybe they were actually shot, I

00:32:17

don’t know, but there was one officer in the

00:32:23

main building, his name is Abudi op

00:32:25

OP and diab like get dressed really remember it’s the

00:32:27

father of wolves that translates and this is

00:32:31

one of how about abu dead by april you can

00:32:36

pack of wolves abu is like a father and this is one

00:32:40

of the five people who sincerely

00:32:42

treated me very well over these three years there

00:32:44

were several people but this one

00:32:47

really treated me very sincerely well

00:32:49

and we were somehow sitting talking in the officer’s room

00:32:53

and he said like if they had escaped then

00:33:00

Mustafa

00:33:01

and

00:33:02

another guy I don’t know I don’t remember his

00:33:06

name like he was put in prison by the

00:33:10

prison staff yes this is my sadness

00:33:12

and there are guards there who were on duty that

00:33:15

night and he said, like, they would have put him in

00:33:18

prison for some time as punishment,

00:33:20

that he escaped in front of them, and that they didn’t

00:33:23

finish checking, it’s like, it’s bad that I’m here, and that’s

00:33:27

how it was, Mustafa approached me and

00:33:29

asked whether I heard something or not

00:33:31

I didn’t say no, I didn’t hear here, I

00:33:33

really [ __ ] you, you collapsed, tell the truth about

00:33:36

one moment there, after a week or

00:33:38

two, Buddy and I were talking, I’m

00:33:41

talking about ideals, I need you, I want to

00:33:43

say, well, everything is on the frequency, you know, it’s

00:33:45

useful because damn the dude

00:33:47

treats me cool, I kind of respect him too,

00:33:49

so I hugged him and heard this is how

00:33:52

Howard’s situation I heard it like this for several

00:33:54

nights, so he says like if

00:33:57

they ran away Mustafa and

00:34:00

forgot his name, type of ebu writer and that’s

00:34:05

why I acted differently when it happened

00:34:09

another situation with an escape to another

00:34:12

group there, relatively speaking, a

00:34:14

year and a half later, two people

00:34:16

tried to escape with me again, say

00:34:18

it was already an al group with an

00:34:21

elastic band, it was already the province of

00:34:25

Aleppo somewhere in the southwest and I was

00:34:29

in solitary confinement there was a separate

00:34:31

building 12 solitary cells and mine had

00:34:35

windows with a small window

00:34:37

barred onto a platform for walking, a

00:34:41

platform there, relatively speaking, 4 meters in

00:34:44

full length, a building there 12-15 meters long with a

00:34:47

chain-link mesh with walls with a small

00:34:50

corridor and a corridor to the neighboring

00:34:53

building where the soldier and the officer were

00:34:55

guards and in the semi-basement there were

00:34:58

five more cells there were common cells and

00:35:01

one

00:35:03

late evening

00:35:06

Abdu was one of the guards

00:35:09

and there were three people per shift every

00:35:12

three days they changed

00:35:14

out of all nine guards he was

00:35:17

really the kindest and most inmate and in on

00:35:20

his shift there were two guards the most

00:35:23

[ __ ] up once really [ __ ], out of

00:35:27

all nine people the

00:35:29

coolest are the most [ __ ] and he was the only one who

00:35:32

periodically came to the prisoners late in the evening

00:35:35

and asked the guys there was food left for us here, well, they

00:35:37

brought it to everyone, they

00:35:39

ate there, well, it was left and yes like someone is

00:35:41

hungry, someone else wants someone, sometimes they

00:35:43

asked for a butterfly, although there

00:35:45

was actually a lot of food at that time, well,

00:35:48

and in short, he goes there and asked around, I

00:35:50

feel I don’t remember that the

00:35:53

essay went away there and he didn’t close it.

00:35:57

I see this front door and the building, and there’s something

00:36:00

there, as if there’s some kind of shock, you can’t

00:36:02

see something, here’s a shot from a chipolino, do

00:36:05

you remember when they pushed this

00:36:07

process of maximum

00:36:09

bars

00:36:12

on him? 20 minutes

00:36:17

after the start of this encryption, I can already

00:36:19

hear the voice of

00:36:22

two sharu haniya on the walking platform and they start

00:36:25

scraping and I will have here on the left they

00:36:28

start scraping on my wall Vlad then

00:36:31

up to the top apparently they tried to pick out the chain-link mesh

00:36:33

this year it turns out to be a wall and the

00:36:37

mesh is lying and the solution wasn’t so piled up, we just

00:36:39

see to pick it out and I have a

00:36:42

neighboring building, somewhere on the border of

00:36:45

my neighboring cell there was a

00:36:48

Paul plastic pipe running water, there

00:36:50

were tanks there and that means we have water here and I

00:36:53

hear, in short, here’s a kicker, here’s

00:36:55

nothing rotten I walked while the world we don’t know for about

00:36:59

20 minutes while they are there fat or while

00:37:01

Shuru is here although it’s clear because not

00:37:04

because I had scales on one

00:37:06

side I don’t know if these two

00:37:09

guys are guilty or not I didn’t know who then yes

00:37:12

these two people because at

00:37:14

least 2 I heard on 1 as if their

00:37:16

freedom and maybe innocence she was on

00:37:19

other scales was Abdu who

00:37:21

was really cool if now these run away he’ll

00:37:23

get [ __ ] and unknown outside of him they

00:37:27

won’t kill him most likely I won’t be

00:37:29

physically severely punished there at least

00:37:31

in prison . I really walked like this for 20 minutes

00:37:35

and at some point I just

00:37:37

broke here and did it and why was he nice

00:37:39

because he brought food because he

00:37:41

cared, it’s concluded that he’s really a very

00:37:44

cool person, well, that’s why there’s

00:37:47

no money, you don’t have to work and At

00:37:50

some point I just break down and scream

00:37:53

at the top of my lungs

00:37:55

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00:37:57

that’s how good the security is and the three of them

00:38:01

run up, my cameras

00:38:05

open the camera cat program, well, I

00:38:09

’ll be there just like one of these

00:38:11

two too I ran up, what’s this, I’m

00:38:15

pointing at 2 and there at the door there are shorter

00:38:19

stiffeners in the middle and they go

00:38:22

diagonally and

00:38:24

2 is simply bent, this freestyle

00:38:27

just pushed it away, they apparently used bed linen

00:38:29

like something like 0 and a

00:38:31

little bit of a corner and bent it inwards, who are the

00:38:35

cameras in it opens inside, I

00:38:38

show them where I show them

00:38:41

on the street, that is, they were running, they

00:38:43

didn’t even notice them, well, and they were all

00:38:46

caught, it turned out to be two young guys

00:38:49

who are suspected that they helped

00:38:52

ISIS, I don’t know, they didn’t help,

00:38:56

but they demanded a ransom from them and they will be

00:38:59

overpowered by two brothers and steal or linden

00:39:01

different cameras of them while you are in strength yes it

00:39:04

was and the next day one of them

00:39:07

lost consciousness he was all unconscious for

00:39:11

ten days for sure, but I didn’t point out 2

00:39:14

weeks or day 10 he didn’t eat anything for

00:39:17

these 10 days he didn’t drink anything, he wasn’t

00:39:21

in this one and the next cell, but

00:39:22

here I was, almost in the corner, he was

00:39:24

here, I never heard water

00:39:26

flowing from the headquarters to the toilet, he went to drink something, they

00:39:28

pulled him out, a doctor came he measured the

00:39:33

pulse there, the pressure there, the like, he shackled his

00:39:35

consciousness, all all the signs of life as if he were a

00:39:38

normal person, the UN absolutely, and they

00:39:41

poked him with needles with a feather, which means they pulled

00:39:44

him out of his nose, once again they

00:39:46

doused him with ice water,

00:39:50

they stuffed him into the spine, that is, they

00:39:53

stuff you in like that and and so, along to the

00:39:55

river, on your back, many

00:39:58

lean back here and stick a plastic pipe with a stick,

00:40:01

this is

00:40:03

sewer stupidity, there

00:40:06

was absolutely no reaction, but once

00:40:09

I had bangs, I actually looked at it myself, it

00:40:13

was interesting, I look at some

00:40:15

point when the guards are like - then his

00:40:17

eyes turned away, he

00:40:19

blinked his eyes and he had goosebumps from the cold,

00:40:23

then they poured cold water on him,

00:40:25

I don’t know, I’m not a doctor, I didn’t

00:40:27

ask, but I believe that goosebumps are a

00:40:29

reaction in a conscious state when

00:40:32

you are in the cold muscles to the north, he

00:40:36

was lying around, but he didn’t 10 ml was done so

00:40:40

that he would be transported to the hospital to an

00:40:43

inpatient facility and so that he could escape from there,

00:40:45

but he and his brother had already escaped from another

00:40:48

prison and here was a new attempt, imagine

00:40:51

what kind of courage, what kind of desire for

00:40:54

freedom, eat nothing for ten days,

00:40:56

don’t bother washing the nets endure,

00:41:00

well, for me, this was also some kind of lesson:

00:41:03

courage and desire for something

00:41:05

slim, well, after 10 14 days, he kind of came

00:41:10

in like, but they didn’t send him to get sick, not all of them,

00:41:12

they were all here together, brother, and

00:41:15

pulled him out so that he could talk to his

00:41:18

brother and say please, damn it you're

00:41:20

pretending the guards stood up like

00:41:23

you on his stomach, they pulled him out

00:41:24

like that in front of the camera, stood on his

00:41:26

stomach, started stomping right on his stomach and

00:41:29

they were doing something else there and I

00:41:33

couldn't stand it any more abdu was abdu standing on his

00:41:36

stomach this is the person who I am

00:41:38

saved yes I'm like that they start knocking Abdu

00:41:41

this opens the version I speak in some

00:41:44

kind of primitive Arabic words who

00:41:47

talked to me for a long time the spirit [ __ ] Abdu

00:41:49

you what the [ __ ] should I do he's not a dog and the

00:41:52

like and they drag him into the

00:41:54

cells opens mine they take out the soldier's room

00:41:58

we sit down and start eating and they

00:42:01

begin to say that a doctor came and

00:42:04

measured the consciousness of the Japanese, that all the

00:42:07

signs of life were when they stood on their

00:42:09

stomachs, they checked his abs, his abs

00:42:11

tensed, and they didn’t arrive because

00:42:14

you handed them over,

00:42:16

but there is some kind of no morning, no

00:42:19

community, there was a moment there was a

00:42:22

moment when they were both already, well, when

00:42:25

he came out of a coma, and at some

00:42:28

point I told him there by name,

00:42:30

addressing me, I don’t remember which name is up,

00:42:33

so so with ours, sorry, so I did it, it

00:42:35

seems I had a controversial option, either

00:42:38

speed and therefore that he didn’t close the door, he

00:42:40

was flying for something, everyone decided to talk to him, well,

00:42:42

damn, wait, his eyes just

00:42:44

saw it to me, it’s my conscience, well, as if I

00:42:47

understand that I shouted to him then

00:42:50

suddenly she suddenly could have escaped,

00:42:53

that is, I’m with him So in the city, not everything is

00:42:55

normal, like to the fullest extent, I am

00:42:58

amazed at the level of your inclusion in this

00:43:00

life because you really almost

00:43:03

listened there to some kind of sound from the

00:43:05

neighboring cells, you traced

00:43:08

the relationships between not and all this, you were so

00:43:11

immersed in this, this is a very high

00:43:14

level awareness

00:43:15

turns out that when you were put in

00:43:17

the first place, it means alone in this

00:43:19

free Syrian army, the dream

00:43:21

happened next, think about it, but you no longer live

00:43:24

somewhere far away, but you live and

00:43:26

chewed in general in the main epicenter before the

00:43:30

Syrian war, yes, we all know Aleppo

00:43:32

because it’s there the most brutal thing happened and

00:43:34

you wake up every morning with an

00:43:36

alarm clock, only the alarm clock you have is

00:43:39

aerial bombs there, 300,500 meters somewhere, planes

00:43:41

from helicopters by the gods or are they

00:43:44

throwing barrels of explosives and

00:43:47

then on February 8th you wake up in

00:43:51

these cells, I had a cellmate I

00:43:54

was in bed and

00:43:56

you wake up from the next

00:44:01

[music]

00:44:05

30 40 meters away an air bomb explodes in the

00:44:10

next room there were officers

00:44:13

like this small glass 6 millimeters

00:44:16

and half half read 6

00:44:18

millimeters [ __ ] yes all this glass is

00:44:21

so shattered we hear how it

00:44:22

shatters how it the plane is falling, this is

00:44:26

all the plane means it is making a circle, these were

00:44:29

Soviet planes, but also the reception of the bash,

00:44:32

Russian planes, the fourteenth year,

00:44:34

is making a circle, the second bomb shatters to smithereens,

00:44:37

our window it was

00:44:41

February, it was cold, we were

00:44:45

standing there as prisoners, and the table was still here, the dust

00:44:48

was shaken off, soot, ashes, just like that

00:44:52

club means it pours into the chamber in the evening,

00:44:54

a few seconds, apparently a vacuum is drawn

00:44:56

after the explosion, I understand, it

00:44:59

sucks everything back, only the

00:45:02

ashes of the soot remain, just like that, they settle from the

00:45:05

table, like this, you remove everything split pleat,

00:45:07

you take it, and then you shake yourself, you start

00:45:09

sweeping, and the next chapters are 3 bombs, I don’t

00:45:13

care was there 334 bombs site morning half an

00:45:16

hour later, one of the officers comes in

00:45:19

like a boy, takes me by the

00:45:22

hand like that, takes me out into the street, there

00:45:25

was a large roadway in the middle, a

00:45:27

green green lawn with electric

00:45:30

poles leads to a crater, a crater about

00:45:33

2 meters in diameter, probably

00:45:35

80 centimeters in diameter there, deep there that

00:45:38

some kind of water broke through, water began to accumulate, it pokes

00:45:41

me, it means it’s on the wall here, it means

00:45:44

blood is flowing down the wall, it pokes like this

00:45:46

up onto the electrical wires, there are some intestines hanging,

00:45:50

like that, look what the Russians are doing

00:45:54

and what bastards they are, and February 11 of this is

00:45:58

the fourteenth a year late in the evening, the soldier

00:46:00

and the officer looked literally like mine, they

00:46:03

discussed it there and in the end they put us all

00:46:06

in a car and took us to the very

00:46:09

heart of the scam and Aleppo to the old city and they

00:46:12

took me, well, of course, I was without

00:46:14

handcuffs there with my

00:46:16

head and eyes open,

00:46:18

that was you also know this very much, magicians

00:46:21

than usually, this is an amazingly fabulous

00:46:23

moment because think about the Arabic series,

00:46:26

this whole culture on you are going there,

00:46:29

almost some kind of full moon, an absolutely

00:46:31

dead city without lights, in all

00:46:35

these buildings and we are driving with almost no

00:46:37

facts, the dimensions are a little bit it means they are burning just a little

00:46:40

bit so you can see the road

00:46:41

because the plane is a helicopter they are tracking

00:46:43

some kind of night movements they are bombing we

00:46:46

all arrived and inserted Aleppo they

00:46:49

moved us into new apartments

00:46:52

these are schools Shiba not Shiba not and you

00:46:55

can even google it, there are photos, it’s so big,

00:46:58

such a big rectangular building with the

00:47:00

courtyard there are trees and

00:47:03

everything and they put us in the semi-basement there were

00:47:06

cells, they put me in the furthest one, there

00:47:08

was a big one, there was only one wine there, and a

00:47:12

few days later they brought me my

00:47:14

laptop, which I thought that with the fire

00:47:18

I wouldn’t see it anymore because that they didn’t say

00:47:20

that my groove and it seems that the whole thing

00:47:22

exploded in the car, and then a

00:47:26

few days later, Abu

00:47:28

Bakr, the general of the army of the lion the heat, visited this prison and that’s how she

00:47:31

arrested and who was at the

00:47:34

time of my arrest, Abu Bakr and in the end

00:47:38

we were with him we really became good friends

00:47:41

because the guy is like that too, but he is a man of honor, it’s

00:47:43

clear from him that I know that he himself is the

00:47:45

creator, then me, this is dear, this is Abu

00:47:48

Bakr al-Baghdadi,

00:47:50

Baghdad, yes, this is that piece of paper there,

00:47:52

and sometimes they joked like, although there is a hole in the

00:47:54

paper, this one here this one, that’s all, and my thoughts

00:47:59

really became friends after some

00:48:02

time, I was transferred from behind this chamber a

00:48:05

month later to a room I cleaned there, you

00:48:09

know, the spaces, I had a

00:48:10

wooden door, there were beautiful chandeliers, sconces,

00:48:12

new beautiful walls, there was a table, a mattress, a

00:48:15

chair and a

00:48:17

rocking chair on wheels with my back

00:48:20

would have risen, in general, there I had

00:48:22

everything except a foreign passport, I had a

00:48:24

wooden door that was not closed,

00:48:27

imagine the level of trust in me that

00:48:28

appeared in the courtyard where I could

00:48:30

run the router late at night, I

00:48:33

could quite easily take my things at night and

00:48:35

go out. to the second floor along the

00:48:38

stairs and there

00:48:40

you need to jump through the open window in Perm, too, there were windows there,

00:48:43

but not all of them were barred, and by the way, in 1

00:48:47

prison in the first 12 days I also had the

00:48:49

opportunity to escape because the

00:48:51

Congar staircase was presented, I could

00:48:54

climb there with will take nothing 5-6

00:48:56

meters, as if he jumped and ran 15

00:48:58

kilometers to Turkey, yes, here and there,

00:49:01

ask me around, almost ran away from and

00:49:03

neither here nor there, I’m telling you guys where such

00:49:05

adventures grabbed something seriously

00:49:08

stayed for the sake of adventure,

00:49:10

partly for the sake of adventure really

00:49:13

because well, guess who came around the

00:49:16

world and who after that was captured by

00:49:17

him and the

00:49:19

person to whom such an attitude you

00:49:21

talk about it like you wanted to

00:49:23

surprise the whole world of your history, are you serious I

00:49:26

took very cool photographs on my trip around the world

00:49:28

not to

00:49:30

surprise and win at exhibitions, but in

00:49:32

order to satisfy myself because

00:49:35

I wanted to do it, I did it

00:49:37

primarily for myself, but this is already such a

00:49:40

secondary effect, that’s

00:49:43

all, and the second moment I understood that

00:49:47

there is an hour in the city center I’m in

00:49:49

Tomsk, there’s a checkpoint somewhere, there’s a key

00:49:51

street, well, that’s the logical

00:49:54

conversation I’m having, then it’s the nearest cardboard,

00:49:56

and yes, to me, yes, it was also like you

00:49:58

understand, most likely they’ll throw me in if the

00:50:00

first ones are still in the theater because we’re

00:50:03

really 15 there is no kilometers in the darkness of the moon, there is a

00:50:05

northern star there, there it is to the

00:50:07

north of the league, here next there was a moment,

00:50:10

most likely I will be arrested and on

00:50:12

July 26 of this year, the fourteenth year, this is

00:50:16

10 8 months there, nine passed after the

00:50:18

arrest, I was taken to the province of Aleppo, they

00:50:22

were transferred to another group and in

00:50:25

these groups of hers in the first prison he was

00:50:28

the head of the prison,

00:50:32

since he was more cruel, he could

00:50:35

enjoy punishing, enjoying

00:50:38

torturing people,

00:50:40

add, and maybe, let’s say, with me it was so that

00:50:43

one prisoner did not want to eat

00:50:45

this type of hunger strike, something like that he

00:50:47

used and so he comes in, puts his

00:50:50

legs on his stomach, which means his feet are up, and

00:50:53

begins to punish it happened so that they

00:50:56

hooked a

00:50:57

metal base on a small

00:50:59

platform and a metal cross from those jocks, just like that, the prisoner is

00:51:02

placed

00:51:04

only on his stomach with his back outward,

00:51:07

handcuffed and simply

00:51:09

beaten half to death, sometimes just like that,

00:51:12

suspecting him sometimes let's

00:51:15

say one of the prisoners was in

00:51:18

my cell, he killed his wife, they caught him red-handed,

00:51:20

so all the soldiers heard, they ran in,

00:51:24

here's his wife, a friend, here he is, they punished him for the case,

00:51:27

beat him half to death, that

00:51:29

he vomited there all night, that he

00:51:32

walked there for several days I couldn’t, I don’t know, there

00:51:33

might be blood urinating there, that is, there

00:51:36

were such things and

00:51:39

this is precisely the attitude, the attitude, it’s

00:51:42

just visually you see

00:51:46

yourself in which cell already, and there was a common

00:51:49

cell, I was there alone at first, then they

00:51:51

started tossing prisoners

00:51:54

one day, what was this situation like?

00:51:56

funny

00:51:57

they pray and they have a morning

00:52:00

prayer before sunrise now I don’t remember

00:52:03

what it’s called

00:52:04

and it means they were chatting and chatting then they

00:52:07

started giving and now they woke up prayed they prayed

00:52:10

they just

00:52:12

moved in and

00:52:14

started chatting after the prayer with the

00:52:17

colors turned on my not I pray, as if they sleep during the day

00:52:19

and I don’t sleep during the day, I want to sleep, I

00:52:21

just get up, that means I unscrew the light bulb,

00:52:24

but I always turned it off, for some reason it wasn’t

00:52:26

shining, one of the other colleagues began to be indignant,

00:52:29

but he called his colleagues colleagues, and

00:52:31

but for himself, that’s all it’s the bosses

00:52:37

because I’m sitting here alone, I’ve brought order here,

00:52:40

everything’s clean, everything’s cool here, they

00:52:42

started to lose, of course, to play, so you

00:52:44

’ll be the first 10 here, we keep order in the

00:52:47

toilet, we call ourselves clean, and the

00:52:50

like is called when I looked on

00:52:51

YouTube how to enter the hut correctly Well, I

00:52:54

didn’t see it then, but everything was

00:52:56

fine, and then they went into a survey like

00:53:00

you pray, don’t pray, and

00:53:04

then when I was transferred from this cell,

00:53:07

I realized that this guy was recruiting people into ISIS,

00:53:11

recruiting, recruiting into this cell while I was

00:53:15

alone, the rapists were ISIS people

00:53:17

there about eight or nine people, one was

00:53:20

Kazakh, he spoke Russian, but how they talked to him,

00:53:22

they were in the corridor, I

00:53:24

had a crit with a cat, we talked to him,

00:53:25

there he told how he got there and the words of

00:53:28

how he got into ISIS and I listened to this and

00:53:32

when I in December 14, they were transported

00:53:35

to a remote village in solitary

00:53:37

confinement, I began to dock and I realized

00:53:40

how upward it will be for you, every

00:53:43

person lacks communication, love,

00:53:45

attention, some interesting moments and

00:53:47

they begin little by little, the mountains say you

00:53:50

heard us so cool there we are in short

00:53:53

there Once it started snowing in the mountains in

00:53:55

Afghanistan, it fell, we are now thinking about

00:53:57

shooting at others with bags there, we

00:53:59

run to shoot some

00:54:01

cool stories, they tell

00:54:03

stories about how the types have

00:54:05

some kind of strength, well, God gave them, and which

00:54:08

support them, and uses

00:54:09

his example to tell what Let's

00:54:11

clap, some kind of

00:54:12

financial support arrived when his wife

00:54:14

just gave birth, that is, some key

00:54:17

things, he says that

00:54:19

everyone needs a person, they tried to recruit you, he knocked him out,

00:54:21

no, I'm saying not ISIS, no,

00:54:25

because they couldn't try to convert him to Islam,

00:54:27

so I'll ask The militants tried to recruit you,

00:54:29

no no, they didn’t try

00:54:32

to recruit me even just into Islam, but I

00:54:35

really got sick of it when

00:54:38

some new people or guests of

00:54:41

visitors or new prisons constantly came to me, I was here,

00:54:44

this will become a Muslim, you pray over and

00:54:46

over again, it just gets boring and to

00:54:48

get out from and I saw how they were recruiting or

00:54:51

heard no, but these two

00:54:54

stories here, I already have such a

00:54:56

good enough picture for myself to give the right to give

00:54:59

this Kazakh, he said that he was

00:55:01

recruited like that and I get and the Kazakh

00:55:03

said that the teacher followed him there for a

00:55:05

year and that- then he was told there, then it

00:55:08

means that the teacher began to teach him Islam

00:55:10

there on the territory of Kazakhstan, then there the

00:55:13

water levels reached a certain level, or he

00:55:15

was transferred to Egypt where there was promotion,

00:55:18

all this is Islamic, which means the program

00:55:23

was put into him, plus combat skills and

00:55:26

abilities, and then

00:55:28

they sent him to jihad like this it means

00:55:30

you spent 2 years 2 months in this second prison

00:55:33

and in this group and it was a different

00:55:36

prison again here it was in a

00:55:38

village then again here what were

00:55:40

some key events in this

00:55:42

second prison what happened as

00:55:45

groups well yes in the second group, yes,

00:55:48

that means there were always a lot of events, something was

00:55:50

constantly changing, the conditions of security,

00:55:53

the relationship between prisoners, but one of the

00:55:56

key ones was

00:55:58

March 26, 16, that is, about six months before

00:56:01

the release, they

00:56:03

told me that tomorrow a person would come

00:56:06

who would record an interview with you and

00:56:09

he would try make sure that

00:56:11

you are released said something in an

00:56:13

interview in an interview that they directly

00:56:15

asked you, they didn’t tell you the direction, but

00:56:18

you need to say against Russia

00:56:20

against Putin so that you say

00:56:23

that Putin should leave the series while listening to the

00:56:26

atom elections, not really, because you

00:56:29

can’t write them down you will turn into

00:56:32

horns there during this interview, well, just sit back and, as

00:56:35

I understand it, smart people will still

00:56:38

understand the situation quite calmly,

00:56:41

especially since you can go home and

00:56:42

say guys, well, yes, there was pressure,

00:56:45

so, well, and he said something like that,

00:56:49

well let’s say in this direction that

00:56:52

Russia would leave the series, she was

00:56:55

officially already, yes, this was the sixteenth

00:56:57

year, she was already officially there, you and I

00:56:59

understand that

00:57:03

Mars would not have left any

00:57:06

series from any of my words, so all these words are not all they

00:57:09

were equally meaningless, but it’s like such

00:57:11

propaganda, you know, for our own people, what’s

00:57:14

called the answer, we caught a spy, he

00:57:16

himself is against the chips, but it’s understandable,

00:57:20

and taking it during the time, and at the same time, when

00:57:24

I returned, I found some

00:57:26

photographs of me that were taken captive there,

00:57:29

and there

00:57:30

is a recording when I was an old Aleppo

00:57:33

there, sitting at the table, there

00:57:35

was a recording there in Russian, something said,

00:57:37

it’s all on the Internet, but I never found this recording, I didn’t

00:57:40

find it, no I didn’t find it,

00:57:42

maybe it’s there somewhere, maybe it’s

00:57:44

not, it’s simple how did you end up free

00:57:47

and in the end I sat there until September 22nd

00:57:52

I was told while packing my things we are taking you tonight

00:57:56

bring me new clothes we love not chicken

00:58:00

there are gorilla smoked Pepsi there are

00:58:03

some other chocolates so we sat

00:58:07

all night with the guards with one I

00:58:10

keep in touch with them and my dad messenger hangs out there, we

00:58:13

correspond, my name is a

00:58:15

young guy, I needed work,

00:58:17

he was a security guard

00:58:19

and the next day I was taken out, I thought

00:58:22

everyone was taking me to Turkey, but I was

00:58:24

transported from the province of Aleppo to the

00:58:26

province of Idlib and handed over there

00:58:30

to complete strangers to me and on the

00:58:33

first evening and there they spoke English

00:58:36

in the primary I showed off a little

00:58:38

I had diaries they sewed these notes

00:58:41

to take Beijing for me this is the most 0 everything

00:58:44

I have nothing I only have

00:58:46

my memory there are about 100 poems there to know that the

00:58:49

memory is dreams, well, I rebelled

00:58:51

right there, the stones were all loyal, they

00:58:54

didn’t transport me in handcuffs, they didn’t transport me in a hat,

00:58:56

everyone there brought tea, they brought me an extra

00:58:59

walk, they

00:59:00

took me out, and I started to show off, in

00:59:03

the end he

00:59:05

came up there with a pistol, let’s shoot,

00:59:08

then, in the end, he took it there by force I was

00:59:10

fastened from behind with a handcuff on the trail, leaving

00:59:13

on the river

00:59:14

with the hand of a man who was pulling a stream of blows, grabbed the

00:59:17

notebooks, he tried to

00:59:19

open them to fasten the handcuffs

00:59:22

to take the diary, and for eight days I

00:59:25

lived in handcuffs on my arms and legs, I

00:59:28

was sitting like that on a chair, many of them

00:59:30

were fastened my hands

00:59:33

were fastened like this behind the chair for eight days when they

00:59:37

brought food if there is one guard I

00:59:40

eat like this in handcuffs if 2 or

00:59:42

more they stretch me to the toilet but

00:59:45

I couldn’t step on because the muscles

00:59:47

tense up they expand I was stretched I went

00:59:49

to the toilet stretched

00:59:51

here from the toilet, zipped up here, sat down

00:59:54

on the sofa, zipped up like this, you’re sitting, and like

00:59:56

this, there’s a wall in front of you, and

00:59:59

eight days after I arrived here in the

01:00:02

morning, everyone told me, let’s pack my things, they

01:00:08

brought me my backpack from the kitchen like that in an armful. with all the things and

01:00:10

went to hell, it’s suitable with a bag, well,

01:00:12

you yourself are doing this, I’m even burning our school

01:00:14

with these diaries with mine, well, everyone

01:00:18

put me in the car, we drove there, I

01:00:20

don’t know 200 kilometers, maybe for

01:00:23

some girl there they are I

01:00:25

called the name Vali at some

01:00:27

point, they arrived, I came out with my things, they

01:00:30

put me in a car with a driver and

01:00:33

they gave me an STD, and already on the Syrian side, there the

01:00:38

Syrian special services met me, searched me,

01:00:40

deceived me, damn, such an

01:00:42

attitude towards someone has not been there at all for three years,

01:00:44

and that’s the real thing the dog has returned

01:00:47

now we have dogs in general, she is there for them, and

01:00:50

we were driving a car to

01:00:52

Damascus with one guy in the back

01:00:56

seat, well, he speaks something in

01:00:57

Russian, something in English, the

01:00:59

special services arrive, we go into the office and there the

01:01:02

office is so understandable there was a

01:01:04

chief in general, just like in the chief of the FSB,

01:01:06

only the Syrian FSB and already officially a

01:01:09

Syrian village, everything, and then the moment the

01:01:12

cord went to the side, the moment of release, the

01:01:14

moment of abrupt arrest was on October 4, 13,

01:01:18

from the Turks to the Syrians, on October 1, 16,

01:01:22

I was transferred to the Syrian

01:01:24

special services and On October 4, three years later,

01:01:28

I was transferred to Russian, that’s where the

01:01:30

first student is, somewhere on October 2,

01:01:33

our consul, the ambassador, came, I don’t know, to be honest, he

01:01:37

switches off with his assistant, they asked how they

01:01:40

all said, literally a couple of days,

01:01:43

we are now there, st. 1, some business and we

01:01:45

you were the first to Moscow, the Rusyns, all on the 4th,

01:01:48

were put on a passenger military plane

01:01:51

there to be thrown off by soldiers, which means they were transferred

01:01:53

to Latakia Latakia

01:01:54

Tartus Latakia Komi meme our

01:01:57

mass spent the evening there in the barracks because

01:02:01

I had bad weather and

01:02:04

early in the morning we flew to Moscow,

01:02:06

also a military passenger plane and in

01:02:10

Moscow already from the KEF tower the builders

01:02:12

drove to the apartment and sat there for about

01:02:15

10 days, I was probably with our people in the

01:02:17

Komi tower in Moscow, they checked you, they didn’t

01:02:19

recruit you, well, apparently there were all sorts of

01:02:22

psychological things, they read how it was from

01:02:24

behavior and manner of speaking in ara I’m not lying,

01:02:28

somehow a piece of paper and a pen, let’s slowly tell

01:02:31

your stories where what how much how exactly

01:02:35

turnout passwords how do you generally

01:02:38

don’t know new

01:02:40

nose suddenly well,

01:02:44

so it turns out that,

01:02:47

first of all, you treat this situation as

01:02:49

your next

01:02:51

adventure travel even 100 when on some

01:02:53

facets about life and death

01:02:56

the lurch knows what will happen there until

01:03:00

you survive or not, of course at this

01:03:02

moment you think there are parents, friends,

01:03:05

loved ones who are worried about you

01:03:07

because here you see that you are

01:03:10

okay there is food there is a place to stay for the night, yes there are

01:03:13

bombs, and at some point the ISIS

01:03:15

attack, the ampoule hits you right in the

01:03:17

wall or there is a whistle outside the window, but

01:03:20

you still think that before you will be free,

01:03:24

again, if a person has a

01:03:27

feeling of understanding his meaning of life as

01:03:31

some kind of task on this earth then there is

01:03:34

confidence that

01:03:36

everything will be fine and you diaries then you are all your own

01:03:38

in the end yes yes they are all there even speaking up

01:03:41

for the house there is an anecdote here in the first place

01:03:44

and at home there are in the second many stories

01:03:46

they really imprint very strongly

01:03:47

in your memory you remember them it

01:03:50

can be told and then all this can be translated into a book,

01:03:52

that is, my task is

01:03:56

to independently

01:03:58

go through some kind of life experience

01:04:01

along the way to gain some experience and therefore

01:04:03

convey to people like Jonathan

01:04:05

Livingston the seagull that he was there too, he

01:04:08

experimented there everything whether his mother

01:04:11

kicked him out of the spa & down there, he raised his

01:04:14

level and then returned to insert to

01:04:16

pass on this experience, thank you

01:04:19

so much in a nutshell what are you doing now

01:04:21

oh I live in Mexico it’s very cool in

01:04:24

fact that now in Moscow we

01:04:26

crossed paths here two years in Mexico I do

01:04:29

quests, you have your own company, your website,

01:04:32

or like Sasha, there is a website, there is a

01:04:35

description of the journey first of all,

01:04:37

sagrada instagram, yes, I publish

01:04:40

cool things there from a drone, and in Mexico,

01:04:43

beautiful places from our travels, that

01:04:46

is, before this test, grams, so for now I

01:04:48

’m doing this I’ll get started on books soon,

01:04:50

in general I’ll write a trilogy about my

01:04:52

travels, cool

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