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Roman’s father Mavlyuk who is already with you It’s00:00:06
with great pleasure We welcome00:00:08
Roman00:00:10
to our connection That’s how I’d like to00:00:13
see him in the studio but I think we00:00:15
’ll see Roman a little later And00:00:18
when he will arrive directly00:00:19
Roman good evening Hello00:00:21
Very glad to hear glad to see Thank you00:00:23
for finding time for us once again00:00:25
good evening Hello thank you for the00:00:29
invitation Vancouver I didn’t have such an appeal I do00:00:31
n’t have a visa but I will keep it in00:00:34
mind And you don’t have one now you need,00:00:38
you're thinking about a special plane,00:00:42
there's no radio check, but wait, but visas00:00:46
don't matter Well, well, yes, from the point of view,00:00:50
Yes, I just have habits that I don't00:00:54
know, just Well, there are no such00:00:56
opportunities yet, but I think that they00:00:57
will appear in the near future00:00:59
Roman, we've started our today's broadcast is00:01:02
just00:01:04
today's news about the fall of a bomb, as00:01:08
the media write in freelance00:01:10
mode, on the center of Belgorod, fortunately no00:01:14
civilians were harmed. Here we are.00:01:15
My colleague Artem asked00:01:19
[music]00:01:20
Is this good or bad news? He00:01:23
asked, that’s not how we started to reason Is it00:01:25
good or bad for someone, it may00:01:28
seem good for someone, it’s bad, there’s a00:01:30
war. Unfortunately, it really washes away00:01:33
these edges for00:01:36
you as a person who, strictly00:01:38
speaking, lives in a city that is00:01:40
periodically00:01:41
bombed and periodically shelled. That’s00:01:45
how it feels to perceive this news. Yes, here’s00:01:48
the fall of this the bomb itself in the center of00:01:50
Belgorod Well, let's start with the fact that00:01:54
you discussed the issue of the ethics of00:01:56
striking civilian targets and bombing00:01:58
and killing the civilian population,00:02:01
I will answer that there is no military sense in this, there is00:02:06
such a maniacal sense in the first00:02:11
place, which00:02:14
has been repeatedly declared to the Russian Federation by the00:02:15
Russian leadership But if you answer00:02:17
directly to your question If you choose between00:02:20
having this bomb fall in Belgorod or00:02:23
in Kharkov, then of course I would choose00:02:25
Belgorod if the00:02:29
entire civilian population of the city of00:02:32
Belgorod died from this bomb. This, in my opinion,00:02:34
is fair,00:02:37
one child in the city of Kharkov Not because00:02:39
I’m so bloodthirsty but because it’s a00:02:41
Russian Nazi bomb And the fact that it00:02:44
exploded in the Russian regional center,00:02:48
someone will say karma, someone will say00:02:50
Coincidence, but you know, this war is00:02:54
unique than it is on the air and we00:02:57
all saw how First this shell00:02:59
enters the ground, reports 20 seconds00:03:02
There is a special Timer, it stands like this,00:03:04
tick-tick, and then boom, so00:03:08
they dropped these Bombs on Ukraine in cities with00:03:11
people with children, women, a00:03:13
great many, and you probably00:03:16
shouldn’t forget about this, but if we are talking about00:03:18
waging war in general, that is, if you00:03:21
You say, you probably think that00:03:23
more Russians need to die. And I proceed from the fact00:03:27
that it is necessary to kill the00:03:28
Russian military, so that they don’t00:03:32
kill us and the civilian population,00:03:33
of course. Well, I understand that they are00:03:37
some kind of people there. Like cucumbers in a jar,00:03:39
they were drunk with propaganda and Nazism. But I’m a00:03:43
very tolerant person at heart, if00:03:45
they hate Ukraine in Belgorod without00:03:48
crossing the border, then you can do00:03:50
whatever you want00:03:52
and Thank you, novel, with your permission, we’ll00:03:55
immediately start with a phone00:03:57
call if you’re not interesting Yes,00:04:00
good morning on the air Hello What’s your00:04:02
name00:04:06
Good morning Roman Glad to see you on the00:04:09
radio Vera,00:04:11
you know, first of all, I want to thank you00:04:14
for what you are doing, do00:04:18
n’t you think00:04:22
the popularization of criminality00:04:26
in Russia is a00:04:34
serious matter, not some trifle somewhere00:04:37
there is something stolen from someone there nothing a00:04:40
penny for some00:04:42
nine years on Sony,00:04:45
this one who was blown up, a criminal,00:04:49
remade himself,00:04:52
some more, you’ll look at this. Here’s criminality00:04:56
as criminality, and do you think that00:04:59
Ukraine, that we all need to talk about this00:05:01
more often and expose00:05:04
these people more, don’t make them out of them? Look here It00:05:15
seems to me that this is not the00:05:19
first time we’ve communicated On the air of Radio Vera,00:05:21
although you haven’t introduced yourself now But your00:05:23
voice seemed familiar to me, watch00:05:26
You’re probably not mistaken,00:05:28
watch00:05:30
Prigozhin and all the people who were sent with00:05:34
arms in their hands to Ukraine, they00:05:36
really are not just criminals, they’re00:05:39
modern Russia is people sent by00:05:42
Vladimir Putin because somehow00:05:45
chebak Wagner dude Wagner somehow something like00:05:48
this is separate nothing00:05:49
like this is the embodiment of the modern00:05:52
Russian Federation and probably the word of the00:05:55
fascist Federation Russian it00:05:57
will be here now very, very appropriate00:06:00
what00:06:02
it is got out of control This is an obvious00:06:07
story and did this, that is, the collapse of00:06:10
all legal and legal norms in the00:06:14
Russian00:06:15
on the Russian state00:06:17
directly by Vladimir Putin He already00:06:19
understands, you cannot follow00:06:22
the laws here And here it is not respected, first they00:06:24
tore it up and Sorry, they urinated on the00:06:28
Russian Constitution and We We remember00:06:31
the changes to the Constitution, when they got there00:06:33
they threw out a million amendments on the topic that00:06:36
Marriage is a union of a man and a woman and00:06:39
they discussed all this and then the00:06:42
Russian language and the fight against LGBT, although in00:06:46
fact00:06:47
the amendments were carried out in order to add an00:06:51
option for Vladimir Putin so that he could have00:06:53
ruled until death, yet they00:06:55
knew and understood this perfectly well, and everyone knew perfectly well00:06:57
that this was a violation of00:06:59
Russian legislation regarding the occupation and annexation of00:07:04
Ukrainian territories, they still know this, that00:07:06
is, I mean that it begins00:07:09
with such00:07:11
moments, first they prohibit freedom00:07:14
meetings or something else, and then it’s00:07:17
little by little that the fascist00:07:19
regime is transforming and what we see with these00:07:22
heroes. By the way, this comrade Fomin,00:07:25
who really loves figurines that00:07:28
explode in his hands, and Prigozhin, this is00:07:31
one gang. That is, this is one organized00:07:34
crime group. And what The most interesting thing they have00:07:37
now is a new trend such that they00:07:39
are infiltrating these people who00:07:42
fought, who killed, robbed,00:07:45
raped, they will go to the polls,00:07:48
we put the word elections in quotation marks, but all of them and00:07:51
all of them will be moved by United Russia, that00:07:53
is, Well, it turns out like this uh,00:07:55
systemic criminal approach and then they00:07:59
will yell Let's bomb Vancouver00:08:01
Because I don't know because00:08:04
because00:08:08
Prove that it's not called that Well, yes,00:08:11
because Canada is a den of Nazism, in00:08:13
fact, a Ukrainian00:08:16
novel By the way, I called00:08:19
and asked this question for you, for some reason it00:08:22
gave me an idea: Do00:08:24
Ukrainians in Ukraine, in general, need to00:08:27
understand all this? I mean00:08:30
Prigozhin there is this Vladlen Tatarsky Yes, but00:08:33
that is, somehow keep track of what is00:08:35
happening there, but in fact we see00:08:39
how,00:08:40
even relatively speaking, let’s say, without exerting00:08:44
much pressure there, here’s the00:08:46
army. It’s somehow00:08:48
starting to fall apart, not exactly,00:08:51
but we see in quotes the successes there, the00:08:53
Russian army, and so on, here again00:08:55
today, and the fall of the bomb00:08:57
is freelance mode Yes, and the crash of planes a00:09:00
year ago also in the center of residential quarters00:09:04
of the city, in fact, We see that00:09:08
Russian officials, big00:09:10
officials, Well, they themselves will do everything, by00:09:14
and large, the main thing may be not to00:09:15
interfere with them, and in general, all this, well, will somehow00:09:19
come to something - to the logical end, do00:09:22
Ukrainians need to monitor this and00:09:24
somehow comment on these things?00:09:26
Everyone should do their job,00:09:30
artillerymen should kill Russian00:09:33
soldiers on Ukrainian lands, analysts,00:09:35
journalists,00:09:38
government bodies at various levels,00:09:40
of course they should look at what is00:09:43
happening there because the temperature there00:09:46
The future and00:09:50
lives of us, and quite possibly yours, depend on this fascism.00:09:52
Therefore, this is the very formulation of the question: What do00:09:56
they say, they themselves will fall apart, everything00:09:59
will break down there because they00:10:01
dropped a bomb on Belgorod, this is very short-sighted and00:10:04
to change units for directness because00:10:07
they have a lot of bombs and00:10:10
They also have a lot of towns like Belgorod and they don’t feel00:10:12
sorry for anyone, not the residents of Belgorod, nor the residents of00:10:14
Kharkov, Kiev, or even Moscow.00:10:27
Belgorod, preferably00:10:30
to a kindergarten and will say, you see how00:10:33
bad they all are there in Ukraine, they don’t like the00:10:35
people of Belgorod, let’s all get under arms.00:10:38
Here are electronic summonses for you, and so on and00:10:40
so forth, so to00:10:43
say that the Russian army was00:10:46
defeated there, it lost00:10:49
control there or something else is00:10:51
wrong in this regard, to be honest, I think that00:10:54
even the Ukrainian00:10:57
information policy in this case00:10:59
It’s00:11:00
already in its second year,00:11:04
but I won’t quite tell you directly Correctly00:11:07
Because when people are told that there’s a00:11:09
little more, then somewhere there somewhere,00:11:11
someone is shooting there, some kind of00:11:13
offensive action, but in principle, in00:11:17
principle, many people do not die from attacks on Kiev or some00:11:20
other big cities,00:11:23
we are all used to it, and so on and00:11:25
so forth. This is a wrong approach,00:11:28
this is a big long process. a country with an absolutely00:11:32
distraught population in the literal sense of the word00:11:35
and a fascist leadership00:11:38
that directly declares that Let’s just00:11:42
say it again After all, words00:11:44
have their power It’s so00:11:47
simple and so strange when they say00:11:50
that00:11:51
we will strike there or erase some00:11:54
countries cities, it’s not even only in00:11:56
Ukraine, Canada By the way, yes, for some reason,00:11:58
it gets the least of all, but Washington, if00:12:00
they attack it, also hear this00:12:04
Although00:12:05
missiles can still fly through Canada, but00:12:08
the point is, I’m not talking about the technical aspect of00:12:10
directly verbal things like that,00:12:13
but you can’t say it’s just this This is00:12:17
exactly what the00:12:18
Nazi ideology is called, fascist dialogues00:12:21
are calls for the mass extermination of00:12:23
people on ethnic grounds because00:12:26
supposedly everyone threatens Russia and does not allow it to00:12:29
expand, whatever they call it,00:12:33
But it’s something like that, we00:12:37
really need help, it’s true,00:12:41
today Ramstein and this00:12:46
military assistance first of all and financial too00:12:49
First of all, this is all it turns out, but00:12:52
to draw such conclusions, you know, that everything is the00:12:56
result of this war is a foregone conclusion, it is00:12:58
very dangerous and it seems to me that it is a mistake to00:13:02
look at what is happening there00:13:04
now, the00:13:06
main thesis on all Russian00:13:08
TV channels is recruitment to contract00:13:11
service, that is they are forming a new one, but not00:13:14
by mobilization, by exactly this type00:13:17
Volunteers, contract soldiers Volunteers for some kind of00:13:20
money00:13:23
that the desire to fight and kill has00:13:27
not gone away, it’s really00:13:30
a question of connection with this Do you think the00:13:32
influx into the Russian army may00:13:34
dry up before the overthrow or potential00:13:37
death Putin or while they are called they will go00:13:39
and in principle let’s say the patience00:13:42
will never run out among the population00:13:44
you know This is probably the most important question00:13:47
if you paraphrase it like this you can even00:13:50
say So how many00:13:52
Russian citizens need to be killed on the territory who00:13:55
came with weapons in their hands to our country00:13:57
so that they we have been left behind, but now the00:14:00
losses are in the tens of thousands,00:14:04
without even specifying them from the Ukrainian side. I00:14:07
think the same thing. Although this figure has00:14:10
never been officially stated and we00:14:13
see a desire to fight, there is this despite the fact00:14:16
that on that side even the goals of the war have not00:14:18
been defined, so if you ask so that you are00:14:21
fighting, they don’t know there,00:14:24
you know some cliches, the homeland, the00:14:30
metaphobes of the laundry. Well, that is, you understand that00:14:33
this cannot be formulated. It is not formulated,00:14:35
and in this case,00:14:38
wait until Putin dies or is overthrown00:14:42
is too much. Well, it will definitely cost us too much,00:14:45
but probably for you too.00:14:48
So I’m thinking about how to do this. How00:14:52
to solve the issue without waiting for some00:14:56
consequences that are out of our control, they00:15:00
need to inflict defeat on the battlefield,00:15:02
everyone is saying counteroffensive00:15:04
counteroffensive, I don’t know. Considering00:15:06
that we have gaps in a number of different ranges of00:15:10
weapons which00:15:12
we don’t have You can, of course, say that00:15:15
you could have prepared better for war, I00:15:17
agree with you But this does00:15:18
n’t change anything now if you know,00:15:21
conditionally, on a00:15:27
certain number of Tomahawk missiles they pasted00:15:30
yellow-blue socialist labels and wrote this00:15:34
Ukrainian property and these here00:15:36
missiles flew to key points in the00:15:40
occupied territories and then,00:15:42
accordingly, the Ukrainian soldiers could go in00:15:43
there to finish off the survivors. Well, in general,00:15:46
gaining a foothold in the territory is one thing if00:15:50
this is done. It won’t, and most likely there00:15:53
may be nuances here with tomahawks; the00:15:55
nomenclature of weapons can be called anything, you00:15:58
understand my logic. That is,00:16:02
us Those who have been fighting with weapons for00:16:06
more than a year now and the people are really physically and00:16:10
morally just tired and how it00:16:13
will be further00:16:15
you understand that we will not give up there,00:16:18
every attempt in any direction by the00:16:22
Russians to advance it will cost them.00:16:24
So they will then switch to the word Ukraine00:16:27
another street, but that will be00:16:30
later,00:16:32
but if the question is how to end the war, it is necessary to00:16:37
inflict a military defeat and00:16:42
everything possible for this is there,00:16:44
look at the novel in continuation of00:16:47
this conversation. Yesterday we talked on00:16:49
air to journalists Gleb drunk and we00:16:52
were talking about exactly this same topic00:16:54
and well let’s say it’s not like we’re trying to00:16:58
figure out why, actually,00:16:59
the West will say yes, it’s00:17:04
really helping Ukraine, but at the00:17:06
same time, if we take into account, for example,00:17:09
what if the West supplied all the00:17:15
weapons Ukraine needs today. I mean, of course,00:17:18
airplanes for example, or long-00:17:21
range shells, and most importantly,00:17:23
blocking the sky Yes, which Ukraine said00:17:26
from the very beginning of the war, because how much00:17:29
easier it would be, just in the first place,00:17:33
there would be much fewer casualties on the part of Ukraine00:17:35
in this regard. And the most00:17:37
important thing is precisely the goal of Ukraine Yes,00:17:40
namely Victory on the battlefield.00:17:43
Why do you think00:17:47
the West doesn’t take this final step00:17:50
somehow? It seems to be yes, it seems to be delivering,00:17:53
but it seems like it could have done better,00:17:56
I’ll give you a quote from my favorite of the last few00:17:59
months, Loid Austin, who says that it’s00:18:02
always possible better and more, I,00:18:05
as a citizen of Ukraine, will not00:18:06
[music]00:18:08
pronounce the list of Ukrainian wishes00:18:12
that they don’t give us ammunition there or do00:18:15
n’t give us anything else for the reason that but no00:18:18
matter what, no matter what anyone says,00:18:21
this is a war between Russia and Ukraine and If00:18:26
we take into account the volume of military equipment and00:18:30
ammunition that we received, then again,00:18:33
without this, we would have00:18:37
fought with stones. And with a high00:18:39
probability, they would have already separated half of the population00:18:42
or on the pillars of the00:18:44
Ukrainian population, so they are already demolishing00:18:49
how many there will soon be a year of blowing away.00:18:51
from the face of the earth where there will be no life,00:18:55
you understand. The lunar surface, the00:18:58
Americans are going to the moon, but these00:19:01
idiots can’t fly to the moon. Therefore,00:19:03
they decided to make the moon00:19:06
in the eastern regions of our country, which is why00:19:10
there is a discussion on this topic, and it00:19:15
seems to me so, even in context of00:19:18
all of these control of offensive ideas00:19:20
how this will all continue00:19:22
[music]00:19:24
American Canadian and other Generals00:19:27
from NATO countries who are involved in this00:19:30
all of them I don’t think that they are stupider than us and00:19:34
this is the moment that Well, that is,00:19:38
what I’m leading to is now everyone they say00:19:40
counteroffensive counteroffensive, we00:19:43
have several00:19:45
Canadian-made leopards in our arsenal,00:19:49
this is a first-class machine and00:19:52
this is just a low bow to the Canadian people. Thank you very much,00:19:55
whatever you want, we00:19:57
can comb any polar bear with a kiss, but this is00:20:00
really very important, you just can’t00:20:03
imagine this technique, it00:20:05
will save many lives in the literal sense, not some00:20:09
you know, there are hypotheses in the00:20:12
literal sense of the word, but the00:20:14
Canadian leopard,00:20:15
forcibly Ukrainized in00:20:18
the past, is leaving if00:20:21
we are at war00:20:24
and not the weakest army in the world so that they do00:20:26
n’t talk about them about their idiocy In00:20:29
connection with that that they don’t feel sorry for a person from the00:20:31
word they are completely armed and dangerous And the00:20:35
question is00:20:37
they will get into this on a cool leopard and00:20:40
it might catch fire, maybe I’m00:20:45
thinking, well, General Mila knows about this00:20:48
General Zaluzhny knows, everyone knows00:20:50
that without a lost war it won’t work out K00:20:53
Unfortunately, we are trying to minimize them,00:20:56
that is, if we don’t have this00:20:58
component that will ensure the00:21:01
complexity of the00:21:03
introduction of hostilities. It00:21:06
seems to me that all this equipment, worth tens of00:21:10
billions of dollars, is quite00:21:12
vulnerable and00:21:15
maybe we don’t know something, maybe there00:21:19
really will be some kind of surprise.00:21:21
Maybe to be tomahawks, I’m a little bit00:21:25
like this00:21:28
expressed our desires too strongly,00:21:32
but the point anyway is00:21:35
that the tanks should go to attack those00:21:38
positions where the00:21:40
corresponding blows were delivered by long-range00:21:43
destruction systems and00:21:46
[music]00:21:49
what’s most interesting, again, everything goes to the00:21:52
fact that everything anyway, everything will be00:21:55
a matter of time. Why is this not being done00:21:59
now? Well, there are a lot of ideas and opinions. nuclear00:22:02
bomb Russia00:22:05
nuclear bomb. Do you think this00:22:08
has the potential to be implemented or is it00:22:10
just for nothing?00:22:18
that throwing a nuclear bomb and00:22:21
not using nuclear weapons is00:22:24
not accepted by Vladimir Putin, the00:22:27
American leadership of the Second00:22:29
World War reproaches this, but if00:22:34
you look at the same smell, Mahmut has00:22:38
already been talked00:22:40
about how it differs from Hiroshima, tell00:22:43
me how it differs in some way it differs in00:22:46
nothing it is no different if you already00:22:48
measure it with TNT equivalent, everything is the00:22:51
same and it’s customary to say that an expert00:22:55
there is an analyst. Yes, no, he won’t00:22:58
dare to do this in any case because it’s00:23:00
suicide there. But the fact that they did the same thing is the00:23:04
same. The actions are similar,00:23:08
so in00:23:10
my opinion00:23:12
they are calculating the military all the options are00:23:15
possible, and Denis and I00:23:19
said that00:23:20
six months ago some of our00:23:23
units had with them00:23:25
the corresponding that there are somehow pills,00:23:28
drugs that are taken in case of00:23:31
using radioactive00:23:33
radioactive In general, the use of00:23:35
nuclear weapons00:23:38
can be and they even sent00:23:42
those polar bears that we should00:23:45
comb00:23:48
it means people this probability00:23:53
may be less than 5000:23:56
percent but in fact it’s 50/50 and I do00:24:00
n’t know I wouldn’t rule00:24:04
anything out you just Let’s do it again00:24:07
just00:24:08
how does it work why is00:24:11
this such an unpopular moment Yes, everyone00:24:13
says no, he won’t dare, but they,00:24:18
like this happened for 8 years since 14, they didn’t00:24:22
tell us that we are all Nazis here and00:24:25
they told us that we should be killed, it’s not00:24:28
possible, but it is necessary,00:24:30
and now exactly the same onslaught is going on in00:24:35
the ratio of NATO countries, maybe Canada00:24:38
directly clearly they rarely00:24:40
say the essence, it doesn’t change00:24:45
and in fact the00:24:48
very idea that you can kill a00:24:51
million people in another country they00:24:54
like it She wants their nerves00:24:58
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great country no one can do anything to us00:25:02
Therefore00:25:04
[music]00:25:06
better start00:25:10
Thank me thank you Romana I want00:25:13
to remind all those who00:25:15
joined us, friends are joining00:25:17
us, journalist Roman Tsymbalyuk 600:25:20
at 4295 16 phone number of the live broadcast studio00:25:24
on the novel, in fact, we wanted to00:25:25
start with this very ill-fated00:25:28
drone attack of today’s Kiev and00:25:32
I also wanted, by the way along the way, ask00:25:33
about this famous outbreak about which00:25:36
so many also spoke and wrote,00:25:38
could you please say a few words,00:25:41
perhaps not as an eyewitness, but as a00:25:42
person who is close to these00:25:45
events, firstly about drones, how much was00:25:47
it really felt was felt And00:25:50
this the flash00:25:52
here of us witnessing the incident is definitely00:25:55
not suitable Kiev is a big city and this is not00:25:59
such a strong attack00:26:04
No no I was just on the street when00:26:09
Vilialarmed00:26:10
so it was interesting00:26:15
Kiev just turned on the lighting you00:26:18
smell like spring I think everyone can just00:26:22
imagine this is the smell it smells00:26:25
life, he is not only in Kiev, he is sure that00:26:27
in Vancouver he is no worse and then00:26:29
the air raid alarm goes off, but I personally did00:26:32
not hear the pops of explosions in the UFO part.00:26:36
Of course, it’s a good version, if we00:26:39
conclude00:26:44
some kind of Union with alien creatures, we’ll give them an00:26:47
embroidered shirt or something else. but to be00:26:50
honest, I don’t think that it was some kind of00:26:52
natural phenomenon, something here It does00:26:56
n’t look very much like this, especially considering00:26:58
that on this day the00:26:59
deployment of the Patriot systems was announced,00:27:03
I don’t know what was there, but in my opinion it was00:27:05
man-made and parts of this attacks Well,00:27:08
there’s all the light, there’s no one dead,00:27:12
believe me, if there’s a fire somewhere there, but00:27:15
it’s already been extinguished Yes, this is a financial00:27:19
loss and it will have to be arranged, but00:27:22
believe me, it’s not the worst thing, what can the00:27:26
residents of Belgorod confirm? Well, yes, yes, that’s for00:27:30
sure, and you just mentioned an embroidered shirt and00:27:33
friendship with aliens, aliens, I00:27:36
immediately imagined what I would do right00:27:37
after this conversation about the fact that Russia00:27:40
is not even fighting against NATO, but against00:27:43
the Universe of a biological biological00:27:46
empire,00:27:52
interestingly yes with aliens Well, in general,00:27:57
yes. It seems to me that in order to be divided into00:27:59
aliens and the Russians it was enough to00:28:01
know that they are not Orthodox is, as it were,00:28:03
enough reason for an attack or something00:28:04
else, but the topic of the population is not far away.00:28:07
Sorry, but we have the majority of the population of00:28:10
Orthodox Christians here. They killed so many00:28:12
Russian-speaking Orthodox Christians. I think the00:28:16
last record was held by Hitler. Well, you00:28:19
know all the Irony that Orthodox00:28:21
are right there are wrong, as00:28:23
it turned out then everything is clear, nevertheless, the00:28:26
Russian Orthodox Church is very clear in this regard, that00:28:28
is, there are no questions there, the idea is00:28:31
specifically posed and let’s00:28:33
talk about the population then, especially since I00:28:34
can’t help but ask you, as a journalist,00:28:36
such consolidation citizens of the00:28:39
Russian Federation around the regime00:28:41
around these terrible ideas of nuclear00:28:43
strikes on Berlin or something else, is this a00:28:45
miracle and the genius of propaganda or is it just a00:28:48
spontaneously developed situation Well,00:28:52
against the backdrop, I don’t know the inherited00:28:54
patriotism in quotes from the Soviet00:28:56
Union, how this was even possible to00:28:58
accomplish such a population00:29:00
Well, there are many options here, starting from education,00:29:03
starting with the nurturing of these bonds of00:29:07
maintaining the St. George Ribbon, and so on and00:29:09
so on. Well, of course, everything is based on00:29:11
propaganda and here is the upbringing that00:29:14
we are so special, that we are00:29:15
some kind of00:29:17
uber less than they live00:29:19
They objectively declare that we have more rights on this00:29:21
planet than other people. Well, that is,00:29:24
everything is clear, but this is kind of bad00:29:27
news, and the good news is that it is00:29:30
on TV and somehow Girkin00:29:33
recently formulated Russian terrorists00:29:34
If on TV tomorrow00:29:36
they say that Putin is00:29:39
Canadian An agent00:29:42
recruited by residents of Vancouver,00:29:44
for example, and to deal with him in some way,00:29:48
for example, and they will say that this is00:29:50
right, then all these people who are00:29:52
now tearing at themselves there, that there are shirts,00:29:55
some other items of clothing, they00:29:57
will say Well,00:29:58
finally, I mean this is00:30:02
this00:30:04
support,00:30:07
she will begin to pour in00:30:10
along with military defeats when they00:30:14
begin And so the Fuhrer is not real, that is,00:30:16
they will00:30:19
not only come00:30:21
to their senses no Now even in the public00:30:25
space Putin is criticized for this not00:30:28
because he started the war but because he00:30:30
can’t win, and in this case there’s00:30:32
such a moment that it seems00:30:36
like you look at polls, there’s00:30:40
a lot of evidence talking about this00:30:42
madhouse.00:30:45
Sometimes I think that in Kiev it seems00:30:48
like in another dimension, probably when you00:30:51
look in Canada. Why do they put00:30:54
people in prison?00:30:55
then this is some kind of Tenth Dimension and the00:31:00
worst version, but00:31:04
I still don’t see any kind of mass character in this,00:31:07
which means there is a00:31:09
mass of you,00:31:14
but when people voluntarily burst into00:31:18
war, our für, let’s give me00:31:20
ammo Let me kill a Ukrainian00:31:22
Nazi child there or something else,00:31:24
so they needed to00:31:26
mobilize. This is an important point, that00:31:30
is, the sect is a sect, but the tobacco is separate, and00:31:34
this is what we00:31:38
need to work on, and in the00:31:42
end, we still need tomahawks00:31:44
to kill them here on the territory of00:31:45
Ukraine citizens of Russia, first of all,00:31:47
who came here with weapons in their hands Well,00:31:50
I see it so00:31:53
cruelly Although Well,00:31:57
what am I talking about? Well, yes, because Artem and I00:32:01
also discussed before you00:32:03
joined us about the fact that we,00:32:05
well, actually, don’t understand at all there.00:32:07
Yes, how is it you just described00:32:09
Spring Kiev, the smell of spring and its00:32:13
alarm system immediately imagined it was blooming, to be00:32:16
honest, yes, Well, of course, it’s00:32:18
probably impossible for us to imagine this, and00:32:21
really This is the everyday life of00:32:22
that Well, yes, there were drones Yes, there was00:32:25
an attack yesterday Well, it seems like they forgot, yes, that is,00:32:27
all this Unfortunately, it’s already perceived a00:32:30
little differently, and you’ve rightly00:32:32
drawn parallels here with the same00:32:34
residents of Belgrade, because it’s not just a00:32:36
bomb that fell yesterday. There’s constant00:32:38
shelling, it’s just about this for some reason,00:32:41
too, somehow it’s like everyday life, it’s already00:32:43
some kind of war is actually going on Not00:32:45
only on the territory of Ukraine on the00:32:47
territory of Russia, and for a long time since the00:32:49
first days But somehow this is But this is somehow00:32:52
they don’t really talk about it, it’s not00:32:55
very much to00:32:57
discuss how to go there, but by00:32:59
and large, that’s how it is there is that's why00:33:01
here the video message00:33:04
was recently correct, do you remember this, either to the00:33:06
mother or one of the00:33:10
brothers on the border of Ukraine to Belarus, I will say00:33:15
So we look there,00:33:19
Ukraine is really delivering all the blows00:33:23
on Russian territory Do00:33:27
you want a bear that is not white, not00:33:31
Canadian, this crazy one like- then00:33:33
to irritate the question What are they located00:33:36
on the perimeter of part of their non-grouping? That00:33:39
is, this is also the Russian army that is00:33:41
striking at the Chernigov region in the00:33:45
Kharkov region, everyone is simply concentrated,00:33:48
concentrated on bakhmut and in the girl, but00:33:52
there is also a war going on there and, accordingly,00:33:55
if in some locality00:34:03
there are Russian tanks in the border border territory, it is00:34:08
not in the Belgorod region in Kursk or00:34:11
in Bryansk, why not burn it, but it00:34:14
should be burned because then when it00:34:17
definitely won’t kill you Well, the logic is very00:34:20
very simple, the logic of war and the ladies00:34:24
don’t care about them normally there, pigs00:34:27
recently ended up in a seed farm, at least that’s how the00:34:32
Russian authorities explained it. But I wouldn’t be00:34:35
surprised if in this hay farm there were00:34:38
Russians hiding between the pigs. The soldiers were00:34:40
mimicking, so to speak, you know, we00:34:43
have such a joke, or maybe it’s not a joke,00:34:46
pig dog Tricolor if someone in00:34:49
Canada means something like this will be deciphered in00:34:52
the comments,00:34:54
but in general, of course, I am amazed by two such00:34:58
Russian paradigms. Yes, regarding00:35:00
this war, this is actually00:35:02
what you said, the novels are: What00:35:05
right does Ukraine have to fire at Russia00:35:07
in the territory up to the Belgorod,00:35:09
Bryansk, Kursk region, and the second is00:35:12
absolutely wild paradigm This is the West00:35:15
supplying weapons to Ukraine, thereby00:35:18
prolonging the war, yes in fact Yes, here’s00:35:22
a person Well, let’s say,00:35:24
detached from the war Yes, listening in my00:35:27
opinion is completely wild And then what00:35:29
should the West do, that is, not provide00:35:32
assistance to Ukraine so that Russia is like00:35:34
you they said correctly, the Russian army,00:35:36
accordingly, hung the Ukrainians I met on poles,00:35:41
and so on and00:35:43
so on. Yes, and in fact, it00:35:45
would have entered Kiev quite calmly. And00:35:48
then the war will end, yes, that is,00:35:51
this is for the people. Yes, it’s absolutely more accurate when00:35:54
people somehow in this winds yes Yes00:35:56
Indeed, why does the West help? If00:35:58
not for help Everything would have ended long ago.00:36:01
I can decipher it a little. Before00:36:04
answering us, that is, people literally00:36:07
say that if we had not helped you, we00:36:09
would have already killed you and peace would have come. Well,00:36:13
this one, yes the global world reads like00:36:15
this, yes Well, this is what people do Why00:36:17
this is unpleasant I can’t understand when they00:36:19
are told It’s a little different, they00:36:22
somehow nod their heads Yes yes, of course it’s not00:36:25
possible You can’t help Ukraine Of course00:36:27
Because people who00:36:29
speak like that are just mentally in the00:36:34
Russian team of Russian Nazis,00:36:37
such people live in Canada and in Kiev and00:36:41
in other regions of Ukraine and how is this the00:36:45
depth of human stupidity It is limitless00:36:48
and in this case we are an example Just00:36:50
a reference when we have people, the same00:36:54
civilians in bakhmut, waiting for the Russian00:36:57
army for some reason together they don’t allow00:37:00
children to be evacuated, this is an exception to00:37:03
the rule, but I’m just because00:37:04
you can imagine what’s going on there, there are children00:37:06
in the basement, they’re using bombs there to00:37:10
destroy everything, there are no basements00:37:14
left, no conservation, there are no children00:37:16
who were there, could there be,00:37:20
that is, it’s interesting But here those who00:37:23
say everything here is help00:37:26
[music]00:37:28
prolongs the conflict they say you00:37:31
are stopping us from defeating Ukraine, stop us from00:37:34
dealing with this I’m not afraid to00:37:37
say directly proud weak-loving not00:37:41
always00:37:42
rational but nevertheless Ukrainian00:37:44
people to deal with it and do what they00:37:47
love here, what they usually do00:37:49
for 100 years or more often it’s called00:37:52
genocide, extermination, the00:37:55
history of00:37:59
Ukraine before World War II00:38:02
remembers in the same place how it happened that there were00:38:07
no more of these00:38:10
sentiments on this land to create their own00:38:14
Ukrainian state, what happened in00:38:16
17-21, the entry of the USSR there How they do it00:38:21
They called it the00:38:22
Soviet Union.00:38:23
So she entered and then in 1933 the00:38:27
Holodomor happened. Well, that is, they killed by starvation,00:38:30
now they kill with bombs, the method of extermination does00:38:34
not essentially change, but those who00:38:39
say that it’s stopping Russia from winning, but00:38:41
that’s why it seems to me that everyone00:38:45
understands that we we need to help00:38:48
because00:38:50
they will do this to us, there00:38:53
will be such a convergence in our00:38:56
heads, you know, and the next picture will not00:39:00
be there, but they see it. So00:39:03
Putin will come to Red Square to look for. I00:39:05
told you that we can kill whoever we00:39:07
want. Now let’s start with Hungarians00:39:10
because they But why not start with the Hungarians,00:39:13
we were already there Urman for some reason stopped00:39:15
liking00:39:16
Hungarian Nazism, something else, but00:39:21
these guys Well, I didn’t just00:39:23
choose Hungary It would seem that this is the same country00:39:28
in modern politics00:39:31
[ music]00:39:32
people organ people Putin in the European00:39:35
Union NATO Well, someone thinks that something00:39:39
will save him or00:39:42
That is, their goals will immediately be expanded,00:39:46
this topic will be told that the00:39:49
Soviet Union collapsed, all this is00:39:51
unfair, grandfathers fought, in fact,00:39:53
our army was in Budapest and she was in00:39:57
Budapest until00:39:59
1992, when the withdrawal was completed, and00:40:03
then I sometimes turn on00:40:06
the TV there, people there are in all seriousness,00:40:08
here with the same people who are talking00:40:12
about the need to throw a nuclear bomb on,00:40:15
say, London or somewhere else - then they00:40:18
say that it is necessary to revive the Federal Republic of Germany, so00:40:23
someone will say you are quoting idiots and00:40:26
outcasts,00:40:28
but you know we have a president and by the way, so do I.00:40:32
We also did not believe in a00:40:34
full-scale invasion because this is00:40:37
complete idiocy from the point of view of the common00:40:40
sense of a person who proceeds from the fact that00:40:43
it is necessary, but that life has at least minimal00:40:47
value, this is complete complete absurdity, but they00:40:51
did it.00:40:52
Therefore, I think that00:40:56
in our common interests,00:41:00
winning this war is a matter of00:41:02
survival, but according to the logic that00:41:06
expressed this, it is also a question of survival in other00:41:10
countries.00:41:12
Thank you, Roman in that the same topic is00:41:16
about the questions of Faith, the question of propaganda00:41:19
about how intoxicated let’s say the thoughts of00:41:24
Russians are, of course, like this. One of the00:41:27
main theses is to help the Russians00:41:30
in eastern Ukraine in the Donbass and so00:41:33
on and so on, we’ve heard this,00:41:36
maybe even watched it, the00:41:38
blogger lives in Moscow Alexander00:41:41
Stefanov at all a young guy, he’s00:41:44
20 something years old,00:41:45
he went to the Donbass and made a00:41:50
big documentary film.00:41:53
I think he visited us several times for three hours. That’s00:41:55
where he tried to show life00:42:02
in Donetsk as it is and talked00:42:07
to the people who live there and so00:42:09
on, well, let’s say this is the general one, let’s say the00:42:13
general conclusion that can be drawn is that00:42:15
everyone is tired of this war, of course,00:42:17
especially since it’s going on there. Well, by and large,00:42:20
quite a long time ago and00:42:24
to the point that for many, it00:42:26
will still be almost a flag in the end00:42:28
this or that territory,00:42:30
some say this, some say00:42:32
differently, but everyone unanimously00:42:36
says that naturally, in00:42:40
connection with this liberation, it has not become better, but00:42:41
has only gotten worse because there is practically00:42:44
nothing at all, if anything, they are00:42:47
interested, so they make a comparison here00:42:50
literally there since00:42:51
the year before last, that is, remembering how00:42:54
good and bad it was now, even the losses00:42:57
that somehow happened during the year. So here00:43:00
it is again, the Legend before about the00:43:04
protection of Russians in the east of Ukraine, and I00:43:08
think that now many people already understand that00:43:10
in fact, these are especially those who live00:43:12
there in the Donbass, I understand perfectly well that there is00:43:16
no protection And this is just let’s say the00:43:19
most perfect pawns that00:43:21
were used for completely different00:43:23
purposes But00:43:27
even here the repetition of this is this is00:43:31
this vocabulary protection This seems to be not the case for some00:43:34
that it’s playing along with Russian00:43:37
propaganda, but it seems like We must00:43:39
now somehow I must give some00:43:43
arguments that this is not a defense00:43:46
but What arguments Well, that is, listen.00:43:51
You said that people remember that before the00:43:55
full-scale invasion it was better00:43:57
if a person00:43:59
living in Donetsk or Lugansk so00:44:03
that he knows one hundred percent that he will00:44:05
not be killed later or put in a basement.00:44:07
He would say that you know, and the00:44:12
old-timers say that there were times when00:44:16
civil planes flew in Donetsk and00:44:20
it was possible to fly from Donetsk to Vienna,00:44:22
for example,00:44:23
in my opinion there were no direct flights there were no flights, in00:44:27
any case, you can00:44:30
transfer for sure, you can fly away And00:44:34
this is the phrase protection from what, what00:44:49
else can you talk about there in this case, in00:44:54
this regard, I liked the statement of00:44:56
Vladimir Solovyov recently. He said00:44:58
that like I feel so sorry for these00:44:59
Russian-speaking fooled men00:45:03
which Well, and beyond which we kill,00:45:11
remember00:45:14
the Nazi Putin00:45:16
argued for the invasion of the protection of00:45:18
Russian-speaking people, and it was in the00:45:20
fourteenth year in relation to the Crimea that00:45:21
some Banderaites would come00:45:25
Yes, the residents of Bendery, I still haven’t00:45:28
found a single passenger on this train of00:45:32
friendship, so he was traveling and the passengers there are no00:45:34
tickets, there is nothing, there is nothing, only the movie is00:45:37
artistically shot00:45:39
with cheats, how are they there, well, in general,00:45:42
I won’t repeat all this, listen to the00:45:45
absurdity of this story, I’m even00:45:49
absurd, barbarity, a war crime,00:45:53
first of all, what they did, they00:45:56
kill, they are killed,00:45:57
physical, they kill with bombs,00:46:03
region where the most loyal population once lived,00:46:06
that is, the Donetsk region, there00:46:09
really were the highest percentage of00:46:12
Russian sentiments until 14. And00:46:16
now what is happening is this place where00:46:22
Konstantinovka00:46:24
Slavyansk00:46:26
Kramatorsk there are people who stayed there00:46:29
All00:46:33
and none spoke Russian and00:46:36
they say everything is just built in into the00:46:39
defense system Why00:46:42
Because everyone knows perfectly well that a00:46:45
Russian Nazi will come, he’s a Buryat or a00:46:47
Russian ethnic or a Chechen he’s00:46:49
ethnic he will rob kill kill00:46:52
rape00:46:54
women children or else you know she somehow00:46:57
when in such00:46:59
[music]00:47:01
programs or somewhere on at some00:47:04
symposiums, someone reports on00:47:06
Russian war crimes, she00:47:09
somehow said this phrase: Russian00:47:11
Soldiers came, killed everyone, raped them, or00:47:13
vice versa And then death still ends.00:47:15
It seems like you know, it’s some kind of00:47:17
routine, but just an idea,00:47:19
imagine how it is, how it00:47:22
happens on in practice,00:47:24
no one wants this, no one wants I00:47:28
want all these Roads on which there is a00:47:33
lot of army movement, just like everywhere else on the00:47:37
roads there are a lot of cafes there, I don’t know00:47:39
roadside restaurants,00:47:41
laundries, all of these are all local, that is, the00:47:46
military is fed for free in many00:47:48
places, not everywhere Of course, they still00:47:53
have the military has00:47:55
free food in another place, I’m00:47:58
just saying that people are involved in00:48:00
this, why because no one understands00:48:03
there is still such a moment, now it has become00:48:06
very clear that where00:48:09
this war ends, on the one hand there00:48:12
will be a Russian concentration camp, that’s what is00:48:15
there now such flowers are happening, everything will00:48:18
come to the point that they will00:48:19
really hang, as they will00:48:22
say, this is the Fifth Column or agents of00:48:24
Vancouver or Canada,00:48:27
but they will hang for real, it00:48:30
was all this, you understand. It seems like it00:48:32
sounds like some00:48:35
kind of00:48:37
literary image. Yes, hang on00:48:41
pillars00:48:43
but in fact They are doing exactly this and00:48:45
this is exactly what they are doing and the one who00:48:49
will remain in this zone of darkness But these are00:48:52
no prospects for you or for your00:48:55
children, so we started our dialogue with a00:49:01
discussion of the visa issue00:49:03
before the00:49:06
start of two or three years ago Ukraine and00:49:10
Canada created for the first time working group A00:49:14
without a visa regime00:49:16
and after the war. I don’t know how many years will00:49:20
pass, it may be a lot, it may be few,00:49:22
but as soon as this border is00:49:25
physically restored there will be either a ditch with00:49:28
crocodiles Wherever it goes, these are00:49:31
all the questions they will be resolved I think00:49:32
no one will argue with this, that is,00:49:35
being in the free free side of00:49:38
Western society You are a free00:49:41
person here in the conditional00:49:45
Slavyansk up to and including Vancouver,00:49:49
this is a prospect for you for your children00:49:53
for your grandchildren And what is there And there is the00:49:58
same boy,00:50:00
that is, two options00:50:04
perspective of Slavyansk to Vancouver00:50:07
or your boy, like my children,00:50:12
will start wearing military uniforms at the age of three That00:50:15
is, if a person has at least a little bit of00:50:17
it, not everyone of course has this, but at00:50:21
least a little bit has brains But the choice is00:50:24
obvious, it’s simply understandable Yes Of course, the00:50:28
Western world, with its00:50:30
shortcomings, not everything is stable And in general00:50:34
[music]00:50:36
can be discussed for a long time, but in00:50:39
comparative00:50:41
competitions00:50:43
no one chooses the topic and death is00:50:46
voluntarily chosen only by such, you know,00:50:49
sectarians like the Dugins, there and all00:50:53
these or Putin who says00:50:55
they are all will die And we will go to heaven, so00:50:59
someone can imagine that someone in the00:51:02
West would tell his voters you00:51:05
will go to heaven with me as a00:51:06
result of my policy you will go to00:51:09
heaven Well, that is,00:51:13
Yes, by the way, this could be traced at the very00:51:16
beginning of this War when approximately00:51:18
they said the same thing. Why do we need such a00:51:21
world if there is no Russia in it?00:51:22
Naturally, I assume that Russia and00:51:25
Putin are an equal sign. Roman,00:51:28
if you don’t mind. We have a00:51:30
phone call. Good morning on the air.00:51:32
Hello. What’s your name? Hello00:51:39
[music]00:51:53
[music ]00:51:58
on each side Well, you know, that’s when the00:52:00
snake remembers the situation when the00:52:02
Ukrainian guys were taken prisoner and I do00:52:06
n’t remember that they hanged someone there, they00:52:07
punished someone, they took receipts, they gave us a00:52:09
bottle of water and then we had to go home, that’s00:52:12
all00:52:13
Anton Wait, so what? they gave me a00:52:17
receipt and sent me home. Well, so it was00:52:23
cruelty. I didn’t see anyone, they wanted something00:52:27
else, they wanted something else, in fact,00:52:33
we’ll figure it out, firstly,00:52:36
there are no trees on the island of snakes,00:52:39
so gelak is a branch, and00:52:47
secondly, even in your question, it’s just00:52:52
somehow you so everyone00:52:54
somehow took it like that, firstly, you lied, you00:53:00
forgive, you lied because not everyone has00:53:03
yet been exchanged from the sharp snake island,00:53:05
this is the first thing, and secondly, the situation happens differently in different theaters of00:53:09
military operations,00:53:11
and if on the snake island00:53:16
it turned out like this you described in the00:53:20
Captures part the captivity of the garrison that was there,00:53:23
you don’t know how many people00:53:26
died there, including Russians.00:53:29
And how many Ukrainian soldiers they killed,00:53:32
this is the first and second, it means Comrade00:53:36
Anton,00:53:37
most likely you are a lanket or an00:53:40
unscrupulous person or a Nazi because00:53:50
listen to me carefully once you asked a00:53:52
question, a00:53:59
Russian soldier in Ukraine00:54:02
and you tell me that yes, well,00:54:06
how would you, too, be gesturing there somewhere? That means00:54:09
Anton, I’m explaining to you, there is a simple rule:00:54:12
who is kaput and who is here? Hitler is the one who00:54:16
came to a foreign country, I don’t know If you’re00:54:19
calling from Canada, when a Canadian00:54:22
soldier comes to Russia00:54:25
for some analogue of a sharp snake he00:54:29
will be a Nazi. But in this case, for some reason,00:54:31
no one suggests such a version and option00:54:35
as being realistic in principle00:54:44
between a Ukrainian soldier and a Russian00:54:47
soldier. So I want to tell you that in in00:54:50
my presence, such an option is impossible for00:54:53
Russian soldiers. As they killed in Ukraine,00:54:56
so they will kill, and so what00:55:00
about Gel’s piece? They00:55:03
don’t deserve anything else. The only00:55:05
nuance is that we understand, we are solving a00:55:11
military issue.00:55:17
And it seems to me that it’s time to stop00:55:20
a little because they are leaving us life,00:55:22
what on the one hand, what on the other hand,00:55:25
call,00:55:49
but just today a Russian mine flew near my house,00:55:54
you want me to stop even more00:55:59
Let’s00:56:01
not want to go deeper into this topic because00:56:03
believe me, my family is one of those00:56:06
who suffered from this war and00:56:07
quite severely so I’m saying I really00:56:11
want to stop that there00:56:12
were as few such families as possible Anton, you know,00:56:17
if you noticed, we don’t know whether to listen to00:56:20
his broadcast first or not. I would say that00:56:23
I’m especially happy that a00:56:26
bomb fell in Belgorod, an air bomb, I do00:56:29
n’t feel it at all. there is no joy and the fact00:56:32
that the woman didn’t kill the children there could00:56:34
have killed Well, according to this logic, I have to00:56:37
say these Russian ones missed, but for some reason00:56:40
I don’t have such a desire, but00:56:42
when you say everyone should00:56:43
stop Well, let’s stop00:56:45
actually, to stop00:56:48
stop,00:56:50
that’s where stop And how to stop00:56:53
people00:56:54
came up with such a simple concept,00:56:57
it’s called00:56:59
state border lines, that’s when00:57:02
everyone lives00:57:10
in the other direction, take it away Okay, let’s00:57:13
assume situations we say Yes, let00:57:15
’s just stop conditionally,00:57:21
what’s next, well, the Russians have entered00:57:23
Ukraine, what will happen next What do you think00:57:25
But here’s the worst-case scenario00:57:32
then they won’t go away or they’ll stay forever00:57:34
Yes, it’s unlikely that they don’t need our problems, they do00:57:36
n’t need Ukrainian debts either Well, then00:57:40
what’s the00:57:43
whole question Anton no,00:57:54
sometimes ask questions that00:57:56
really bother you, maybe they’re00:57:59
kind of correct and a little bit sharp, but00:58:01
still less00:58:16
after lessons during breaks they begin00:58:19
to speak in Russian, then00:58:21
thereby they express, I don’t remember further,00:58:23
some kind of, let’s00:58:25
say, incorrect attitude towards Ukraine,00:58:28
and still, in this regard, I want to00:58:31
go deeper, that is, we really plan00:58:33
to change something in the country or00:58:35
we will continue to force through a lot of breaking to00:58:37
force to speak only in Ukrainian I do00:58:38
n’t know the only one there I understood Yes00:58:42
we understood we Yes we understood your question let’s00:58:45
sort it out now Well it’s like a deaf00:58:47
talking to a dumb person this is what00:58:49
listen to the Russians00:58:55
[music]00:58:57
note I after all, this is a00:59:01
stronghold of tolerance, when I say00:59:04
that Russians need to be killed, I pause00:59:08
so that Russian Propaganda00:59:10
can make a beautiful montage and then00:59:13
I add those who crossed the border of Ukraine00:59:16
with weapons in their hands and when you Hear This00:59:18
in the complex, everything is very normal Anton00:59:21
asked no simple question not how is he like that you00:59:24
know00:59:26
such you know not everything is so simple but00:59:30
maybe you are also to blame I00:59:33
apologize that you are citizens of the same country you are a00:59:36
citizen of Ukraine and Anton is a citizen of00:59:38
Ukraine Well, I didn’t hear Anton00:59:41
from where he’s calling00:59:42
he’s calling It’s clear from Canada in Canada but00:59:47
How is he this is not verified information00:59:51
from people I suffered very seriously00:59:54
impossible Maybe we have00:59:57
him from Mariupol Yes everything is possible so here’s01:00:00
a nuance01:00:04
Well this is an option They will stay there01:00:08
forever so I want to tell you01:00:11
where the war ends there will be new01:00:13
state borders de facto so for a01:00:17
second Or someone doesn’t know this or01:00:19
we I hear this so many times I’ve01:00:21
heard these options about Crimea01:00:24
as Putin said The question is closed01:00:27
Who gave you the right to close and what01:00:30
Anton said you know, we have a01:00:35
free country,01:00:38
and about01:00:39
this, Anton said, we just had01:00:43
a hint, but it’s an infringement on Russian-speaking people,01:00:45
that our new Minister of Education01:00:49
said something somewhere about how you01:00:51
should talk in educational institutions01:00:53
and what you01:00:55
like and don’t like I almost don’t care01:00:58
what he said, to be honest,01:01:00
but I know for sure that this01:01:03
is in no way a reason to01:01:06
kill everyone01:01:08
[music]01:01:10
present at a particular school01:01:12
who speaks Russian or01:01:15
Ukrainian, but this is exactly what happens01:01:18
and when he says Or maybe we need to01:01:19
stop and think about the debts of Ukraine,01:01:23
I’m looking at you there, that’s what you’re01:01:27
saying. This is purely Maria Zakharova, my01:01:30
former friend, and Anton really01:01:36
sits on Russian sources of01:01:38
information, maybe he’s just01:01:40
instantly a Russian This is not bad And01:01:42
for God’s sake again you want to live in Russia,01:01:48
but Anton is not an idiot, he’s going to Canada.01:01:51
You see, he went to Canada where there are no01:01:54
Russians,01:01:55
but here’s what Anton said in part. This is a01:01:59
purely Russian thesis, let’s start01:02:03
negotiations, taking into account territorial01:02:05
realities, as they say, and now he lives in01:02:11
Canada. He’ll have everything good He will01:02:14
receive with a high probability he already01:02:16
receives social benefits at the expense of the01:02:19
Canadian taxpayer and there is a01:02:22
high probability that he will live there for01:02:25
many years he will watch Russian01:02:28
TV and you know what Anton will do01:02:29
he will hate you you you01:02:33
because because this is not Russia that’s01:02:37
what it will be because because the minister01:02:40
said that in Ukraine in schools it is necessary to01:02:42
speak Ukrainian,01:02:48
but here is a novel. I would still like to be01:02:50
on Anton’s side a little,01:02:55
he came to Canada quite a long time ago, that01:02:58
is, it was not he who did not come on time,01:03:00
or rather at the beginning war Why did he01:03:04
suffer then, so01:03:06
I can live I hurt him Yes, but that’s01:03:10
exactly what I wanted to return to,01:03:13
to this very conversation, which we01:03:15
actually started about what and01:03:17
how I said Yes,01:03:20
we people are deaf and dumb, we don’t hear they don’t understand, they stopped01:03:23
understanding each other because, for example,01:03:24
it’s clear that let’s say a person lives in01:03:28
comfortable conditions. Yes, there is food, there is01:03:31
water, there is, as they correctly said there,01:03:33
Russian television. Yes, and of01:03:36
course it’s much easier to talk about01:03:38
how everyone is tired of the war, how is this I01:03:41
'm tired and let's stop. But let's01:03:43
stop where there is, and then let's01:03:45
really do it. Or maybe it's01:03:46
really worth leaving this01:03:48
Crimea alone there, let it be Russian,01:03:50
whatever Russia is there through the Zaporozhye01:03:52
region. God bless him, why is it needed in01:03:55
Ukraine, let's have it too let's leave And01:03:58
let's also leave this, too, to01:04:00
Ukraine Let's draw the borders, I'll01:04:03
stop there and it will all end, but you01:04:06
need to understand that01:04:08
absolutely nothing will end. That is, this may give a break to the01:04:11
Russian army there for a01:04:13
conditional period of a year or two, but then there will be a01:04:15
continuation That is, this really won’t01:04:17
end, and then why on earth01:04:20
should Ukraine give up its territories?01:04:22
Well, it’s like people here01:04:25
just can’t understand each other. You01:04:27
live today for a reason. I01:04:31
used this here, retold on01:04:34
Chrome synchronized by Vladimir Solovyov01:04:36
who says that I feel so sorry for the01:04:38
Ukrainians, that we are killing Russian-speaking people,01:04:42
you understand what’s the matter Anton,01:04:44
that the question is not in the language, it’s not in the language at all, it’s that for some reason01:04:49
Russian Nazism was01:04:54
preserved like this, it01:04:55
was preserved They want they want to01:04:58
kill, you understand they want to kill And when01:05:02
someone wants to kill you and says that01:05:06
Anton has a big family, they01:05:08
tell him Anton, let’s say Anton has01:05:14
25 children, like this, like01:05:18
territorial ones01:05:21
like regions of Ukraine with separate01:05:25
Crimea, and so on they tell him, let’s do01:05:29
this01:05:30
You read, give them01:05:33
to death01:05:34
You can do them yourself choose01:05:36
And then live as if nothing01:05:39
happened01:05:41
and01:05:43
And everyone else01:05:45
[music]01:05:47
the rest we will talk about that, we will01:05:50
pretend that nothing happened and01:05:52
we will talk about the fact that well, damn it, it’s01:05:54
also impossible for them to be taught in school in01:05:57
Ukrainian Also You can’t This is01:06:01
probably their infringement But01:06:04
we won’t remember these five01:06:07
But01:06:09
this But this is meanness This is meanness And the01:06:13
most important thing is this is an option Let’s01:06:15
appease the aggressor Let’s01:06:17
listen but Putin’s wife Yes, you01:06:21
need to understand the maniacs of Russian pilots01:06:24
So you started dialogue from Belgorod, so we01:06:27
started talking, but we need to understand the01:06:29
Russian pilots there was a whole Major01:06:31
sitting at the helm, he wanted to drop a bomb on01:06:35
Kharkov.01:06:37
We need to understand the Russian01:06:40
pilots, no one spoke, please note01:06:47
the order. Well, there’s a bomb there, just how many01:06:51
500 or how many one and a half thousand there were01:06:55
the effect on You saw how it is in general.01:06:58
Just01:06:59
stunned by the words Russian weapons, but they01:07:03
do this to protect Russian speakers, I01:07:07
suggest taking calls,01:07:09
let's go, let's go, hot water Yes, we have a lot of01:07:13
telephone ringing says01:07:16
Good morning on the air Hello What's your01:07:18
name Hello01:07:20
Not just such a comment to the previous01:07:23
listener it’s very strange, but I myself am a01:07:26
Russian to hear from Russians. What01:07:29
needs to be taken into account, let’s say, when01:07:31
forming state borders,01:07:34
some linguistic national01:07:36
features because Russia itself is a01:07:38
Federation and there, let’s say Volgograd,01:07:41
where I’m from, there are many Kalmyks for Siberia,01:07:45
when I lived there there are many different nations that do01:07:48
not belong there to the Russian culture to the01:07:50
Russian language01:07:52
they are very different if Russian, well,01:07:55
let’s say, people who have settled down that it is necessary01:07:57
to interfere in the territorial01:07:59
state affairs of Ukraine based01:08:01
on this, then let’s say it will boomerang01:08:04
across Russia, it would be very01:08:07
worthwhile to keep quiet on this topic in my01:08:10
opinion Thank you very much01:08:13
you understand for your remark,01:08:20
Ukraine, with all its01:08:23
shortcomings,01:08:27
but here we don’t have a01:08:36
eugenics competition in the Ukrainian version. We don’t have01:08:39
any blood tests here so that01:08:42
Ukrainians are more ethnically01:08:44
correct or something else. this is not01:08:48
and never has been, we have01:08:50
many people living here with01:08:52
different nationalities, as far as I01:08:55
know, the01:08:57
Armenian Azerbaijani diaspora,01:08:59
for example, in Ukraine, feels great about themselves,01:09:01
maybe they go to visit each other there,01:09:04
but for01:09:06
some reason we don’t have any conflicts here, thank God01:09:09
why ah why not because Ukraine01:09:12
is both mother and stepmother for everyone the same and01:09:18
therefore when01:09:20
Arseniy said the word to interfere, this is not01:09:23
interference, this is a military invasion01:09:26
and it could of course say that our01:09:29
president is Jewish. But I don’t even see the01:09:33
point of this because the wife is01:09:35
making excuses for this, that is, we should01:09:37
turn out like01:09:39
Anton said, that we must somehow find01:09:43
some arguments so that we01:09:46
stop fighting for our lives. Well, I don’t01:09:51
know, it wo01:09:53
n’t work. Thank you, Roman Yes,01:09:57
next call Good morning on air01:09:59
Hello, how’s Hello01:10:03
Roman I’m sorry that I’m calling for the second time,01:10:06
you know, this reminds me of01:10:09
some kind of Gopnikov mentality,01:10:13
come here to squeeze something and take it away and then we’ll come to an01:10:19
agreement. Well, we killed01:10:22
Ukrainian children01:10:24
in maternity hospitals, we bombed them, well, we’ll come to an agreement.01:10:26
Let’s have01:10:30
this kind of petty criminal01:10:35
approach, you know what01:10:40
killed Well, raped, burned,01:10:45
kills, you know, this is01:10:48
how it doesn’t come out, I just01:10:52
don’t understand it, and it seems to me that01:10:55
all of Russia is due to the fact that this is this01:10:58
foam, this nasty thing has surfaced01:11:02
and now it’s so glamorous,01:11:06
you know. look, he’s a billionaire,01:11:09
he’s Prigozhin, he’s Fomin, he’s the one,01:11:13
look on TV, we’ll kill everyone,01:11:16
we’ll take everything, we’ll rob everyone.01:11:21
Tell everyone openly who these01:11:25
people are. What kind of people are these?01:11:30
- he’s so disgusting and so he01:11:34
comes out, comes out because he’s allowed to01:11:36
get out,01:11:38
they’re allowed to steal, and everyone else is01:11:41
not just poor01:11:45
two kopecks, they don’t have two kopecks from each other,01:11:48
you know, in the English language,01:11:53
this is the same thing, you know, well,01:11:56
poor man Well, and here they are sitting in front of01:11:58
the TV, if there is one. You see, there’s01:12:00
something there, yes. Well, they said it’s01:12:05
your son, it’s me, I still have friends there in01:12:08
Russia. Yes, who I know and01:12:11
when and when you ask them. Well, they01:12:14
’ll take your son away. Well, but what to do? Well, you have to01:12:20
send death to another country, it’s01:12:24
not clear why, it’s not clear why, to01:12:27
kill Ukrainian children, to rape,01:12:30
to burn Ukrainian women, old people,01:12:33
old women01:12:35
Well, that’s what But how01:12:39
can01:12:44
they not understand, thank you, thank you01:12:49
for the fact that01:12:53
these are01:12:56
just that’s what I think too One on01:13:01
one That is, it does not lend itself to logic01:13:03
You see, this is01:13:05
human logic It’s still01:13:08
somehow any religion,01:13:12
education, morality, it still puts01:13:15
life at the head01:13:17
Just life, and here you know some kind of01:13:22
desire of an entire state to commit01:13:26
mass suicide and it is advisable to take it with01:13:28
you more people and it’s just01:13:31
amazing01:13:36
more like an environmental disease01:13:39
Well, thank you, I01:13:43
noticed when I was starting a little01:13:45
let’s say not that they do01:13:54
n’t stop calling I hope you still01:13:58
have the stamina to take calls01:14:00
if you don’t mind let’s move on to the next one01:14:02
Good morning01:14:12
then I still want to continue01:14:14
a little01:14:15
expand the topic maybe it wasn’t entirely01:14:17
clear to me, I see So my idea01:14:21
is to stop at least just01:14:22
now as it is, not because it’s01:14:25
good or bad because I don’t want to01:14:27
see Ukraine in 10 years in which01:14:29
all men will be disabled or by01:14:31
nature or after the war, but everyone will be01:14:33
disabled,01:14:35
everyone with children will be somewhere who will live01:14:40
in this country. When you can talk01:14:42
as much as you want, I feel patriotism. But01:14:44
if there are no just people, then what to do01:14:46
next, but these methods will01:14:50
come back and the pinchuks will fight Ukraine again the01:14:55
strongest to compensate Again,01:14:58
we will be there again until the end01:15:12
If you want to invite Anton, I have01:15:16
absolutely no objection01:15:17
You invited me I don’t want to listen to this nonsense that’s01:15:21
all good I’m fine01:15:27
goodbye I’ll explain to you why Because01:15:29
what Anton does He01:15:32
he gives here illusion01:15:36
Stop resisting They01:15:39
really won’t kill everyone Anton is01:15:41
right here They will kill people like me01:15:44
Anton may even come to01:15:46
some kind of leadership position Anton01:15:49
you know how to do it, he makes such01:15:50
a turn, he always says that someone is to blame01:15:53
somewhere, someone was fighting there pinchuks oligarchs01:15:57
injustice and everything It seems to be01:16:00
true and he says you Stop01:16:03
resisting because it will be worse01:16:07
and I want to ask a question but Anton01:16:11
lied from the very beginning when he said that the01:16:13
contingent was on the snake island They were given01:16:17
water and allowed to go home on a subscription, he was01:16:19
just lying here Anton Just a bastard,01:16:22
that's a bastard, he understands, he made the01:16:26
Russian invader look good, a good01:16:29
guy, Russians Ivan, I'm a Russian01:16:33
warship, give up, that's01:16:34
what I did and he01:16:37
turns inward all the time, so the ideas are01:16:40
good in principle, but the world is in peace, the question is who01:16:44
said01:16:46
that if Ukraine stops01:16:48
resisting, the war will end. who01:16:50
said Because Anton the Peacemaker01:16:54
But tell me01:16:57
all the signs01:17:00
that are happening on the territory of Russia01:17:02
They say that they are preparing for a01:17:05
long war in order not to01:17:09
stop so that, in01:17:12
principle, it will not happen to women not to01:17:14
men not to colleagues01:17:17
That's all,01:17:19
that's why thank you, he's manipulating and once again, I have01:17:24
n't heard this for a long time, by the way, here01:17:27
we also have a different mood here01:17:29
when there are people like Anton, there are a lot of such people,01:17:32
by the way, but I think01:17:34
10 percent, even after the bombings, here we are01:17:38
when there in the winter they massively screwed up the01:17:41
power plant, so I think I even retold you on01:17:43
the air01:17:46
when a person is walking01:17:49
my age, maybe a little older,01:17:51
walking up the stairs, he’s on the 20th floor and he01:17:56
Zelensky bastard turned off the lights,01:17:59
you know, and you seem to be, well, what are you going01:18:03
to tell him?01:18:05
Well, it’s probably obvious that maybe01:18:09
Zelensky is not an ideal president, he is01:18:11
not ideal at all, I don’t01:18:13
like him at all, but he definitely didn’t turn off the lights,01:18:15
you understand01:18:17
and transfer this like this, these are the accents.01:18:21
This is not true. This is called01:18:26
leading the population and people into01:18:29
misconception, exactly the same as what01:18:33
Anton said01:18:35
is being broadcast in different languages. in Canada, both in English and01:18:38
in French, why did you give them yours, gave them01:18:41
your leopards, why, well, there will be01:18:45
more destruction, there will be more war,01:18:48
so we would go in, cut everyone off,01:18:51
quietly pretend that nothing01:18:54
happened,01:18:55
and Anton whispers to us, but Anton01:18:59
I want you upset01:19:01
long ago left01:19:03
She's a free country whoever wanted to01:19:06
left You can01:19:10
But whoever stays here will still be here01:19:13
Ukraine will be here You01:19:16
like Ukraine in Canada you won't like it You won't like it01:19:20
Ukraine will give Canadian01:19:24
leopards and that's how everything is arranged Thank01:19:29
you Roman 928 Friends in Vancouver01:19:32
we continue the conversation with journalists from Kiev01:19:36
Roman Sobolevkom 6429 516 Roman we01:19:39
still have phone calls just be patient a01:19:42
little Good morning see01:19:43
Hello What is your name Hello01:20:05
from your point of view here is the fight against01:20:08
corruption01:20:10
or after the end of the Victory on the Battlefield01:20:12
This is the first and second What do you think These are the01:20:15
people comrades who went through the war in the trenches and01:20:17
saw death wouldn’t it be a01:20:20
good idea to put them01:20:23
in leadership positions after the war and thus01:20:25
generally01:20:27
protect Ukraine from the future of corruption01:20:29
Thank you, an01:20:31
excellent question I think I’ll be01:20:33
interested in listening to Anton,01:20:35
this is the moment when we need to01:20:38
talk about the imperfections of the Ukrainian01:20:40
state as everything is organized here and01:20:43
the idea of people from the war01:20:46
Appointing people to leadership positions is01:20:49
interesting, but the fact is that in our01:20:53
army there are a lot of different people there and there are01:20:56
patriots there, idiots there and traitors there,01:20:59
spies there, whoever is there because01:21:02
this is society and the army is a cross-section of society and the01:21:06
people who saw the death of their comrades01:21:10
they will be the most honest, and so on and01:21:12
so forth. Here we give approximately.01:21:16
We now have the DBR or some other01:21:18
organization to investigate01:21:21
the case that the commanders of some01:21:23
separate battalion gave out to their relatives01:21:25
who were listed in his battalion01:21:27
these are the bonuses of 100 thousand to01:21:29
combat people who01:21:33
were not even close to the war, but others01:21:37
fought, here is an example of what I mean by the fact that the01:21:40
very fact of participation in is not an01:21:43
indulgence, it will not be so,01:21:46
I have a UBD combatant, I am a01:21:49
champion here and everyone owes me I want01:21:52
to say right away that Yes, there will be a moment of PTSD, that01:21:56
is, post-transmatic syndrome, but01:21:58
globally These are the people who will come from01:22:01
the war. Of course, they should receive all the01:22:04
benefits and everything that is assumed01:22:06
by the state, but they do not become better01:22:10
or worse. Although it is clear in politics we01:22:12
will have Well, probably still more than01:22:15
half if we are talking about men, these are01:22:17
still people from the war. I’m just saying01:22:19
that the very fact of participation in the war is not a01:22:22
guarantee of anything, but the most important thing is01:22:24
what you asked. This is the most delicate01:22:27
point Of course, right now is the01:22:30
ideal time to become01:22:32
better, and yes, the depth of the Ukrainian01:22:35
state is limited. So01:22:37
they simply don’t want to change at all, but the01:22:40
Ukrainian state doesn’t want to change,01:22:41
if it weren’t for American friends, it01:22:44
would still be01:22:48
Vladimir Zelensky’s childhood friend, comrades Pokakan,01:22:51
as it turned out the investigation is still the same Bastards01:22:54
or just going on, the chief intelligence officer would have been in the position of01:22:58
chief leader01:23:00
if it weren’t for our American friends,01:23:04
then we would still have appointed a01:23:08
special anti-corrosive prosecutor Well, I can01:23:12
go on for a long time about these points, that01:23:14
is, you see I I We have your military here01:23:17
situation and censorship, you feel that I’m01:23:20
not afraid to say something in this address01:23:23
at all, I’m not afraid to eat01:23:26
what I’ll even tell you before the01:23:30
full-scale invasion01:23:33
Zelensky, we had a lot of different01:23:36
rounds of negotiations there, but the most striking01:23:38
example is the Americans there and the meetings are big01:23:41
seven,01:23:42
first of all, the USA How many of them,01:23:45
including Biden and Trump before01:23:49
this, ended with the phrase that01:23:51
ukry we support you, you’re great01:23:54
[music]01:23:57
So from a special anti-corruption01:23:59
parkour Three years Three [ __ ] years there are a01:24:05
lot of such examples, that is, once again this01:24:08
country is it01:24:11
based on the01:24:13
fact of Victory in the war, which I have no doubt about,01:24:16
it will not become01:24:18
institutionally better,01:24:21
but01:24:23
as a process it is not here in any case.01:24:27
Indisputable and no one can change anything.01:24:30
If we really say straight out that as01:24:33
a result of the hostilities a01:24:36
full-scale war was unleashed,01:24:37
he remembers when Putin addressed him at night01:24:41
he spoke to the people, to the01:24:43
Russians, to us, he wanted to demilitarize us there01:24:46
to Nazify and01:24:49
liquidate the01:24:52
national agency for the fight against01:24:55
corruption in general01:24:58
and other bodies to combat all this.01:25:06
Why Because he called all this the01:25:11
national anti-corruption bureau01:25:13
of Ukraine, he called all this01:25:15
structures created NATO and the01:25:18
United States, that is, what01:25:21
happens is01:25:24
Soros Biden White House Canada and they all01:25:29
tell us that guys, since you want01:25:31
to be part of the Western world, we01:25:34
perceive it, but we can’t, so what01:25:37
if a Canadian01:25:40
entrepreneur comes who earned money01:25:43
once or his grandfather earned money from01:25:45
combing polar bears, which we have01:25:48
already talked about, and to invest money here in01:25:51
Kiev or Mariupol, it is impossible for01:25:53
some guys to come and file a01:25:56
letter with the court, and then this court will01:26:01
decide that the money is this, which I01:26:05
said, they burn down the property and01:26:08
are rewritten to someone else And01:26:11
in general they tell us01:26:13
what Canadian name is the most commonly01:26:18
used one01:26:23
Get out of here while you are safe01:26:28
and this is what we will fight Why01:26:32
so I’ll just finish this thought, it means a01:26:34
wonderful moment has come that01:26:37
will force us to change because01:26:41
we01:26:43
finally have how much they didn’t talk there,01:26:46
only now elements of01:26:49
external control have appeared, what does this mean,01:26:52
yes, everything here is a ruin, 3 economies minus the01:26:59
population were killed, a lot of people01:27:02
left, the result is the war continues, all01:27:07
this is sponsored by the01:27:08
Canadian government, American01:27:11
German and many many more countries that01:27:14
met today in Ramstein and01:27:17
they help a lot, plus ammunition, if there weren’t01:27:21
Canadian ammunition, then01:27:24
everything would be completely different,01:27:26
and when the country depends on the supply of01:27:29
ammunition for financial support, then of course,01:27:31
when the01:27:33
issues with the appointment of Nabu there and all01:27:36
these bodies, it started somehow, you know,01:27:39
strangely, it wasn’t even resolved it was decided And01:27:42
now it’s just being01:27:44
solved Just a miracle01:27:48
Magic Magic Uncle Sams worked well,01:27:52
probably it’s the miraculous Soros That is,01:27:55
what am I leading to? What can I01:27:56
answer for a long time that there is a lot of01:27:59
idiocy, stupidity, stupidity, betrayal of one’s own01:28:03
children,01:28:06
only especially for Anton this does not01:28:10
give us the right of Russians to01:28:15
Ukrainian cities such as Mariupol,01:28:19
for example,01:28:22
Thank you Roman Well, let's make the last01:28:25
phone call We'll take Yes01:28:27
Good morning on the air Hello What's your01:28:28
name Hello01:28:30
My name is Alexander Roman I wanted to ask you01:28:36
literally a week ago I watched a video on01:28:39
YouTube, it means there There was a01:28:41
presentation of a new electric truck,01:28:44
then Ukrainian bloggers are01:28:49
discussing there Tesla is reducing prices What to take01:28:58
it like restaurants on TikTok shows01:29:03
at the front And who is01:29:06
it like in general how the war is going on how can you01:29:10
discuss What to take what not to take I can’t, I’m01:29:14
interested I’m looking01:29:18
in Ukrainian01:29:24
Thank you, it’s a good question01:29:29
that life hasn’t stopped here, so01:29:33
yesterday I was in a restaurant in Kiev and01:29:36
the day before yesterday01:29:40
I’m just saying it’s just Serious Yes, in01:29:45
general, the01:29:46
main thing is01:29:50
to get home before 12 before the curfew, but I don’t go out that late anymore.01:29:54
I just don’t need to go out late anymore.01:29:57
all this is there And this discussion, by the way, in01:30:01
Ukrainian society there are also people01:30:03
who are at war, they are a little bit When they01:30:05
arrive, they are a little shocked by it01:30:07
all01:30:09
due to this post-traumatic01:30:12
syndrome01:30:13
and the01:30:15
wife of some deputy there with a01:30:18
policeman Yes, many also sorted things out01:30:26
I now have such01:30:30
circumstances that I often have01:30:31
our guys in transit01:30:34
who are my friends who are01:30:36
military personnel. Here they are01:30:40
cruising Kiev, the capital of our01:30:45
friend Vadim, with whom we worked for01:30:47
many years in Moscow. He was my01:30:49
operator, now01:30:54
it seems that he came abroad01:30:58
because everything was too strong it01:31:01
seems different and there are no borders and everything is the same01:31:05
All our country Well, the contrast is01:31:07
amazing and there01:31:12
will always be a lot of such moments in society, but to be01:31:16
honest I think that globally it’s not like the01:31:20
truth is somewhere in the middle, you just need to01:31:22
respect all01:31:23
military personnel first of all but life01:31:26
will still go on And if people01:31:29
were doing what they were01:31:33
reviewing and cars there is such a general01:31:36
infocar, my favorite channel, they have two01:31:40
presenters Pasha became a military man He01:31:43
was on vacation, he was doing a review of a01:31:45
car I01:31:47
don’t remember which one it01:31:49
doesn’t matter01:31:51
why this is in view that Well, in life it’s01:31:54
like that and01:31:56
[music]01:31:58
to say that everyone should01:31:59
live like in Bakhmat, so we probably01:32:03
shouldn’t, we’re probably going to this war so that01:32:06
life is life and not survival,01:32:10
once again01:32:12
it seems that if01:32:17
every person meeting a serviceman01:32:19
just tells him the words zasu the wild01:32:22
merit is already these moments01:32:25
will begin to somehow reduce, but you see,01:32:28
I talked for a very long time about how01:32:31
everything here is organized by the institution, how01:32:34
they work, and so these are the people who01:32:36
were imprisoned to steal something somewhere,01:32:39
they are remained All of them have01:32:42
not gone away, not everyone wants to fight,01:32:44
some even think like Anton.01:32:47
Why is there01:32:49
all this01:32:51
diversity of opinions, it’s all there,01:32:55
but 90 percent still do01:33:00
n’t lose common sense because they01:33:02
understand perfectly well what’s going on. And believe me, as I01:33:05
already told Anton this not because of the language and01:33:09
let him no longer lie about the fact that01:33:11
the Russians released everyone from the snake01:33:13
disgustingly came to Canada and is lying01:33:15
horror01:33:18
Thank you Roman Thank you so much for talking to me01:33:22
we can probably wish01:33:25
you Victory First of all I mean of course01:33:28
Take care of yourself the most important thing Send we have01:33:32
155 caliber ammunition Well, Canada,01:33:36
by the way, yesterday Another one again01:33:39
At the next meeting Yes, assistance will be allocated01:33:43
in the amount of 39 million dollars01:33:45
messages01:33:49
So So, to the best of our ability01:33:51
What is called Thank you Roman Once again,01:33:54
huge I hope to see you soon again01:33:56
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