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Dear friends, I am addressing everyone who is

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watching my Youtube channel at this moment, I am glad to

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welcome you and congratulate you on the

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fact that Stanislav Belkovsky is our guest again,

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always a dear guest on my

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channel Stanislav Aleksandrovich Thank you for being

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with us Hello Thank you Evgeniy

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Alekseevich for the invitation Greetings, I’m

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very flattered by the characterization of me as a

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dear guest. Well, okay, my

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dear guest, please tell me what

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happened in Washington, in your opinion,

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why did the Republicans

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change last week, let’s say they

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softened their position a little, and Trump

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seems to have softened his position a little

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as a result this long-suffering

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law on providing assistance to Ukraine worth

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61 billion was adopted. Well, it has passed so far,

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of course. There is still a vote in the

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Senate, Biden’s signature. Well, it’s clear that

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the main conflict has been resolved why.

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Well, the vote in the Senate is scheduled for

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Tuesday, April 23 and there is no doubt that it

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will be successful as well as the further

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signing of acts by Joseph Biden, it

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was always, in general, clear that the question of

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assistance to US allies Ukraine, Taiwan and

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Israel goes far beyond the scope of certain

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conflicting aspects of American

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domestic policy. This is a question of the fate of the

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free world in its confrontation with

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modern totalitarianism,

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which is personified the People's

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Republic of China and the Russian Federation and the

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American elites themselves

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were faced with the question: Do they want to drown this

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matter,

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these are their internal disputes on the eve of

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the elections, or will they still find themselves above

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some internal strife and choose

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to save the free world or, in any

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case, avoid the defeat of the

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free world in the confrontation forces

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free world enmity Poly

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responsibility

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prevailed Although, as we know, a certain

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part of the Republicans of the Supreme Council voted equally

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against And in particular, the majority of Republicans voted against the act on

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assistance to Ukraine,

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relatively the

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majority of Republicans in the House of

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Representatives, but in the end, support for the

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bill turned out to be bipartisan and there

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was no doubt about it

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acceptance, that is, unexpectedly

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totalitarianism, in general, it became clear that to

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bury Ukraine or refuse

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support to Israel and

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Taiwan, the war in Taiwan In general, now

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it seems quite real, much more

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real than just a few years ago,

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means causing enormous damage to

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American global leadership,

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primarily moral and so this

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damage was caused by all sorts of decisions

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taken by America in previous decades,

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for which there were sufficient

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grounds for Yugoslavia and the situation when

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totalitarianism is in full swing, more

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than ever in recent decades,

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of course, the decision not to support aid to the

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allies would simply be frankly

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disastrous from the point of view of the

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American center of the world itself, which

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Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in particular is fighting,

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and this understanding

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applies equally to Democrats and Republicans.

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Listen, how the story

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with Israel played a

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role here, as far as I understand, the USA and Israel and the

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Sunis monarchies of the Near and Middle

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East were quite ready for this

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attack up to the scenario of which

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Iran informed the United States of

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America through third countries such as Turkey,

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so it cannot be said that it was somehow

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shocking The world around us and Iran In general, it did

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not set itself the task of causing

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any

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unacceptable damage to Israel. It was a powerful

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fireworks did not result

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As we know, one Bedouin

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girl was wounded, and we wish her a speedy

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recovery. But this cannot be called

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large losses as a result of this

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operation and there was no significant

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destruction, including at military

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facilities, so it was more likely an

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image demonstration than a real

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military one. attack and it is unlikely that it could have

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had a qualitative impact on the position of the United States, but the

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political elites. In general, this

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has been discussed a lot in the international American

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Media in recent months, that the

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political elites In general, the United States is behaving

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in the worst traditions of the series

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House of Cards and if these elites do not

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want to discredit themselves including

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in the eyes of Voters, it’s petty games

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against the backdrop of growing global problems and

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the need for decisive steps to

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solve these problems, it’s time to end

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Uh-huh Well, okay, but now

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the Ukrainians will receive additional weapons,

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ammunition, missile systems,

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anti-missile systems. What do you think,

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this can turn the tide at

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the front? can turn the situation around at

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the front only in the sense that it will be possible to

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stop the further advance of

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Russian

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troops, reduce the threat directly to

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key populated areas of

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Ukraine, including the capital Kiev, and in the sense of

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obtaining new air defense systems and in the

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sense that Ukraine will have new

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opportunities for attacks on military targets

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in the territory controlled The Russian

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Federation, especially

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Crimea, has become

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as simple as possible for Ukraine,

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including from a legal point of view,

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since according to the international law of

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Crimea, the territory of Ukraine, Ukraine has the

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right to strike

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targets on Crimean targets;

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this will not be the subject of condemnation from

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its Western allies.

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While targets According to the canonical, attacks on

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targets in the canonical, internationally

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recognized Russian Federation often cause a very cool reaction from the United States and the

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collective West,

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especially when it comes to

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attacks on civilian targets such as

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oil refineries, this is

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not only a matter of the humanitarian component, but

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also the fact that the United States is afraid of rising

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oil prices and petroleum products, again, which is not

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very healthy on the eve of the presidential

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elections in the United States, prote. Have you

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seen

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the photos of Roosevelt and Churchill widely circulated on the Internet and the signature of the

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US President Roosevelt

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explains to the British Prime Minister

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that it is wrong

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to strike at German

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refineries, I didn’t see that to say that the position of the

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United States even then was not obvious for an insignificantly

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long time Yes, it changed

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qualitatively after the Japanese attack on

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the Harbor, but before that it cannot be said that the Church

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really wanted direct participation of the United States in the

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European

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war, Church had not

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enough, said the famous Russian

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satirist, history repeats itself three times

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once as a tragedy, twice for stupid people

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But in relation to the military capabilities of

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Ukraine They will allow you to contain the Russian Federation and

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limit the offensive potential of the Russian Federation, but I do

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n’t think that the qualitative situation will change here with the

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entry of

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Ukrainian troops to the borders of 1991.

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Of course, it seems like a scolding of the

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United States with modern pearl- harbor

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modern pearl harbor can

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only become a strike on American territory

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That is why I think from the Russian Federation It

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will not happen Well, good And if so in a figurative

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sense What actions of Russia can

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encourage America

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to take qualitatively more decisive

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actions Well, qualitatively more

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decisive actions - This is

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direct participation American

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troops in the war, I now do

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not see such preconditions at all, either from the United States or from the

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Russian Federation. I believe that the maximum

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Maxim Vladimir

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Vladimirovich Putin is capable of is the delivery of

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targeted non-nuclear strikes on

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NATO military targets, in particular a military

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airfield in Poland and with or Romania Where

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are the weapons intended for

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Ukraine, in particular the F16 aircraft, this is

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theoretically possible, I don’t think the

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probability of this is high, but it is not

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equal to this Maxi

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and then actually Recently I did a

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program on the Belkovsky channel

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called Putin and the Monsters, a possible

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possible direct clash between the Russian Federation and NATO

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and consequences, then NATO countries can

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respond symmetrically, that is, they can also

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inflict a powerful targeted non-nuclear weapon,

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of course, the use of nuclear weapons is

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not a question of either side striking

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any objects on Russian

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territory, which, however, the Kremlin is no

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stranger to, these strikes and so constantly

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occur without direct

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intervention, and already Ukrainian drones,

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as we know, are in a state of more than

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kilometers. Tomorrow they will already end up in

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Western Siberia, as we see, the Russian Federation does not have

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sufficient capabilities to

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resist this. These

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capabilities will be even less after Ukraine receives the

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corresponding tranches of relevant

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weapons within the framework of the approved package

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of the American assistance, therefore, for Putin

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this is not a very big risk. But to

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test whether the Washington

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Treaty of

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the Alliance works and how different NATO countries will behave,

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including in relation to the fifth and

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sixth articles of this treaty, this is an important

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psychological question for the Kremlin

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because a careful study of the Washington

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Treaty shows that the notorious

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fifth the article does not oblige NATO countries

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to give a collective answer, yes, each

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country actually has some kind of backlash there.

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Yes, each country decides for itself what

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format the answer should be; it may

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not be military at all, but purely

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diplomatic. In addition, again, a

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careful study of NATO documents

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will show that the security structure

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provided for by the documents of the

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North Atlantic Alliance, to put it mildly, is

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outdated; it certainly belongs

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to the same Yalta poms world that the

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United Nations organization, that

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world order which has not existed since the

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end of the

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1990s, covers the territory of the North

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Tropic of Cancer and in the current situation does not

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protect, does not provide food,

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but those of France, the majority of them do not fall

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under the NATO umbrella if something happens, and even as

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we recently found out, certain territories of the

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United States, in particular, the Hawaiian Islands are not

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covered by the collective protection of NATO and

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Guam Where is the important base in

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Anderson because it geographically

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simply does not fit into the parameters set by the

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Washington Treaty, therefore everything that

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is happening now is unconditional raises

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the question of how NATO is a

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modern and effective mechanism for

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ensuring collective security and whether

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it is outdated and whether

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Ukraine cannot agree that it is

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not joining

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NATO since perhaps in the coming years it is

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necessary to create some kind of completely new

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defensive Alliance on new principles

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and with a different composition of founders, listen

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Well, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

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in the Kremlin will not be tempted

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to test the

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defense capability of the North Atlantic

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Alliance just in the

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anniversary year of its existence in the form of

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such precise strikes on the airfield where the

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weapons intended for Ukraine are located,

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perhaps but nothing more than that format of a

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large land war,

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I don’t believe in this option. But the format of some

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[music]

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de march Well, not Grandfather March, there is no

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provocation of some kind of attempt at a

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hybrid war there, again using green

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men in uniform without insignia

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somewhere on the territory Well,

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let’s say

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Latgale. Well, these are such excesses,

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perhaps more likely in the nipple corridor than in Latgale,

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but Putin will do them anyway. It’s

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possible that there won’t be a big land war

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with NATO, since he quite

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soberly assesses his resources in this

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war; for him, the most important thing is

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psychological. Victory is

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psychological. Victory is a

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demonstration of the ineffectiveness of NATO;

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moreover, for this demonstration of the prerequisites,

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it cannot be said that NATO is as

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effective as possible in modern conditions, even

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at a conceptual level, these are

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targeted strikes after which nothing

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terrible will happen. Yes, this will be a

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demonstration that NATO is not ready

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for some kind of massive response to

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this type of action Well, all sorts of

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hybrid

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wars are being waged, and today, let’s say,

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migrants who are constantly trying to

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penetrate the unconditionally hybrid won Ithaca of the

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hybrid won, absolutely And there is

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reason to assume that hackers

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associated with the Russian special services are

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constantly organizing cyber attacks on the

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infrastructure of the most real NATO countries

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Therefore, in In this sense, the

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fourth world war was an idea of Putin

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10 years ago in the spring of

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2014 against NATO and against the United States. It’s going

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on, it’s just going on in numerous

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formats that were not

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imaginable to you, which are

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happening in Moldova, or let’s say so. It’s

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not indisputable that this is one of my favorite

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post-Soviet countries

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So what does this

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congress and all sorts of other possible events promise us, the

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congress of Moldovan oppositionists in Moscow is

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like this

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Nest

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Vovna does not hide it, secondly, the key

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person of the congress is Ilan, a famous businessman

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who in Moldova has a sentence of 15 years

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in prison for a billion euros

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for Moldova is gigantic

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sum what kind of opposition is this

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[music]

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some very dubious event

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I’m afraid that only drink curators need

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budget But of course

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Ilan Shor himself needs it to emphasize that

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he is an important figure in the political

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space of Moldova because Shor has a

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very simple problem, it’s important to him the

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Russian Federation did not extradite him to

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Moldova And he did not begin to serve his

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five-year sentence; he was also a citizen of

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Israel. He recently sat in

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Israel, but there, apparently, it was safe to show the

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mind of the federation as a person

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completely lost. And therefore, you

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need to rush around with Ivan Shor like a decommissioned bag and

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in no

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case don’t let him out of

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your hands. Well, listen, can you

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imagine that it would be possible to

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hold this

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congress of the Moldovan opposition in Moscow without the

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consent of the Kremlin? No, of course I can’t

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imagine. But I don’t overestimate the

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competence of the people who sanctioned

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this kind of event in

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Cre Rova in their capabilities. change the

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power in Moldova as a whole, now in October there

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will most likely be a referendum on

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Moldova’s membership in the European Union and there is reason

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to assume that in this referendum the

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people of Moldova will support euro integration.

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This is not dictated by some

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doctrinal republics. Moldova

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works in the European Union In Russia too, but in

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Russia less And since the

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proportion has changed significantly

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towards the number of Moldovans working in the

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European Union, Moldova itself has made

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de facto its final European

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choice, for the majority of Moldovan

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voters, it is the relationship

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with the European Union that is important in the first place, and with

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Russia is not the first thing to change this

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situation in the coming years impossible

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because the trend is precisely this: the number of

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Moldovans working in Europe is growing,

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those working in Russia are not increasing,

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therefore, Moldova can

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only be destabilized with the help of its autonomous

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entities, this is the unrecognized

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Transnistrian Moldovan Republic of the

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Republic of Gagauzi, which apparently the Russian

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Federation will do, including with the

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help of figures like Ivan Shor and the Kremlin

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loves such figures there is nowhere to escape from the

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Kremlin The Kremlin loves such

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allies in a hopeless situation with

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whom no one except the Kremlin will deal

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Edith IT

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re Well, good What do you

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think Transnistria will remain for

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many years as this independent

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territory, oh,

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in principle, we entered in the era of

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thawing frozen conflicts,

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therefore, for many years, Transnistria

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cannot remain in its current status, it

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must be clarified somehow. But

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what is the concept of settlement is a

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separate big question. Personally, in

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2004, 20 years ago, I participated in the

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development of a plan that received a very good result

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me the name of Belkovsky's plan

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Bess Belkovsky This is me chan Bess this is the

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then President of Romania and in the name of

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the plan my last name is the first in

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the alphabet which assumed that

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since in the upcoming unification of Romania

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Moldova is almost inevitable, then in the

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process of this unification Transnistria

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could get recognized there by all

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players including the USA euro right to

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self-exo this plan was absolutely

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relevant Although the Moldovan elites objected

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to it because Despite the fact that the

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trend of unification of Romania and Moldova

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is obvious but

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Of course, as you know, the most profitable

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business in the world is its own

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State and, so to speak, the Moldovan

00:18:43

elites do not want to integrate into the

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elites of Romania It’s better to manage a small one,

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but your

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state by controlling your sections of

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the state border and the gigantic

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corruption scandals that are

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shaking, which were involved in the

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key figures of the political

00:19:00

economics of this country, from former

00:19:02

Prime Minister Vlad Filat to the

00:19:04

key oligarch Vladimir Plahotniuc,

00:19:06

this also includes the

00:19:09

infamous Shor, who only

00:19:11

what they said shows that yes, the

00:19:13

possibility of corruption to manage

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corruption flows for the Moldovan

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elite was an important argument not to

00:19:18

unite with Romania, therefore

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Plavsky was embodied not but for

00:19:24

20 with

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Russian passports and to risk this

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Transnistria is ready to become the

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arena of another war in the interests of the

00:19:39

Russian

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Federation How can it begin there war,

00:19:44

just wonder what scenario

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the landing will fly there by

00:19:50

helicopter in the image and likeness of the

00:19:52

failed landing, or rather the

00:19:54

failed Dent,

00:20:00

since Moldova, unlike Ukraine,

00:20:03

does not have a powerful combat-ready army, which is

00:20:05

admitted publicly by the top officials of Moldova,

00:20:07

led by President Mandu.

00:20:09

In general, not

00:20:12

much is needed to destabilize

00:20:13

the situation in the military Key, but the

00:20:15

corresponding decisions in Moscow have not yet

00:20:17

been made, but the

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Kremlin will constantly maintain the level of threat on this topic so that

00:20:21

Moldova is

00:20:24

afraid. And what will happen in this situation, stealing,

00:20:28

which is

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interesting, well, Ukraine will have to support in this situation the

00:20:32

territorial

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integrity of Moldova, as well as Romania at the

00:20:35

request of the latter. That is, it will be another

00:20:37

One front, if some mess

00:20:39

in Moldova begins, it will be another

00:20:41

front of the actual Ukrainian

00:20:43

War, when things were going well on the fronts of Ukraine, let’s

00:20:46

say there in the second half of

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2022, then Kiev even with

00:20:51

I looked with some optimism at such a scenario, but it

00:20:53

would allow Ukraine to decide the fate of

00:20:56

Moldova, that is,

00:20:59

Ukraine would have already saved someone from the

00:21:01

military pumas, but today it seems to me that

00:21:03

Ukraine has absolutely no time for that and it is not

00:21:04

interested in opening another

00:21:06

front, especially taking into

00:21:09

account Ukraine which remains for

00:21:12

the country the main problem of a bigger

00:21:14

problem than the American one than receiving

00:21:16

American assistance because this

00:21:18

problem can only be solved by Ukraine

00:21:19

itself, no external player here can solve it

00:21:22

for not

00:21:28

[music]

00:21:30

have you been following the

00:21:31

heated discussion that has

00:21:34

unfolded in the Russian segment of the

00:21:37

Internet social networks regarding the so-

00:21:41

called film of

00:21:43

singers Why are they called so? Films exist Yes, of

00:21:47

course I’m watching,

00:21:50

I watched the film in its entirety.

00:22:10

100% Let's remember the most

00:22:13

iconic works of FBK of those times when

00:22:16

Alexei Anatolyevich Navalny was

00:22:18

free and personally directly

00:22:19

supervised these projects, the film Palace,

00:22:23

can we say that the film Palace is

00:22:25

some kind of exchange of a multi-layered look of a

00:22:30

mountain

00:22:32

epic, declaring one thesis that Putin is a

00:22:36

thief in the money and luxury this

00:22:39

is proven with the help of one

00:22:41

single fact of

00:22:43

the palace remains outside the brackets or there is

00:22:46

a film there, he is also a very good

00:22:48

film that claims that Dmitry

00:22:50

Medvedev is a corrupt official and

00:22:57

further understands the laws of the genre, being

00:23:01

very talented, Krom, both in general and

00:23:03

in this area in particular, understood

00:23:05

perfectly that you need a convincing picture for the

00:23:06

audience for the mass audience,

00:23:08

therefore, for example, in the film he

00:23:10

is not for you, there is no information about the

00:23:12

largest businesses that feed

00:23:15

Anatolyevich Medvedev And basically Everything

00:23:17

is concentrated around real estate of

00:23:19

such things that are easy to

00:23:20

present for sure. So the palace in

00:23:23

Gelendzhik is easy to present this is what on

00:23:25

Against the backdrop of the resources that

00:23:27

Vladimi Putin controls, there is some kind of exceptional

00:23:29

asset. No, of course, this is a small asset, but

00:23:32

it’s easy to show the people, using the example of the palace,

00:23:34

how the ruling Elite of the Russian

00:23:36

Federation fattens, so exactly the same approach

00:23:39

was used in the film of traitors, that is, in

00:23:41

this sense, this is not a retreat from tradition

00:23:43

VBK is a very clear study and Maria

00:23:45

Konstantino Pev certainly inherits this

00:23:47

tradition, this is one thesis

00:23:50

that is presented as the reason for the arrival of the government,

00:23:54

corruption, they wanted a

00:23:58

house for the autumn Well, it is clear that the

00:24:00

apartments in the house for the autumn are Nothing

00:24:03

compared to the money that was

00:24:05

divided during the big privatization and

00:24:07

which the ruling Elite of Russia then

00:24:08

defended during the operation of the successor of

00:24:12

1999-2000, but this is easy to show to

00:24:14

the people Yes, this is clear that And to show

00:24:18

which Hot from the baths in the most luxurious

00:24:22

area of Moscow called Krylatskaya

00:24:25

yes Well, of course, most people do

00:24:28

n’t really understand districts of

00:24:31

Moscow, this is

00:24:32

also a tradition of films like the palace, he is not for you,

00:24:36

no deviation here Yes, from the

00:24:38

mainstream fbk no here I must

00:24:41

fully protect and support the

00:24:43

filmmakers headed by the author

00:24:45

Marie Constantino

00:24:48

x Tomska let’s say so, not quite those in general

00:24:54

life

00:24:57

because I don’t think that Boris

00:24:59

Nikolaevich Yeltsin is not even with an invoice, but with

00:25:02

assessments, I would say, lying on

00:25:05

the surface, that is, I do not think that

00:25:07

Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin was a corrupt official,

00:25:09

that he was motivated by corruption

00:25:10

proceeds No, this is a man who, from the

00:25:13

second half of the seventies when

00:25:15

he headed the Sverdlovsk Regional Committee The CPSU

00:25:18

lived under communism, like every major

00:25:20

party of those times, he didn’t even know what

00:25:21

money was, he didn’t need it

00:25:23

right at state expense, he

00:25:25

had housing, food, transport, everything

00:25:28

he needed, trips to places, so to speak, and that’s how

00:25:31

he lived as the President of the Russian

00:25:33

Federation I'm not sure that he ever had money in his

00:25:35

pocket there in the last 25 years of his life,

00:25:38

because if he

00:25:40

needed expenses in cash, then the

00:25:41

guards and assistants did this, and there

00:25:43

were very few such situations in Yeltsin's life,

00:25:46

so I'm sure that he never

00:25:47

I was interested in the question of how much

00:25:48

oil or another

00:25:51

oil company actually costs, that is, in many ways, that’s why

00:25:52

he so easily agreed to the

00:25:54

privatization scenario proposed to him,

00:25:56

as soon as the day those who knew him, the people who

00:25:59

worked with him in the Kremlin were close to his

00:26:05

entourage, claim that he was

00:26:07

a person absolutely indifferent to

00:26:10

material goods, to

00:26:12

luxury, and so on, by the way, to luxury

00:26:15

enough, well, I eat not so many,

00:26:18

not so many contacts among these

00:26:20

people like you, but they also were and are

00:26:23

certainly indifferent to money as

00:26:25

the substance of the mother,

00:26:28

what his followers became

00:26:30

Russian politics, by the way, luxury is

00:26:34

indifferent to luxury, not to money,

00:26:36

these are two big differences in this case,

00:26:37

as they say in Ukrainian Odessa, because

00:26:40

Rosh is really applied money for

00:26:43

clergy, the day of the cult of Mammon is a

00:26:46

sacred thing, sleepy money is an instrument of

00:26:49

power with which you can to rule

00:26:51

the world and not a means of providing

00:26:53

some kind of everyday Comfort here

00:26:56

radula with Alexei Anatolyevich Navalny in

00:26:59

the film the palace was not entirely right and he was

00:27:01

n’t us, but somehow we watched the film

00:27:03

The Palace and

00:27:04

admired the merits, did we ask

00:27:08

ourselves the question and Vladimirovich Putin even

00:27:10

lived ever in this palace No, he

00:27:11

never lived in it, that is, yes, the palace is

00:27:14

most likely intended for him

00:27:15

because, if only because the security regime there

00:27:20

corresponds to the same

00:27:22

security regime in other Putin

00:27:24

residences, that is, it is of the highest standard,

00:27:26

but I have never appeared there in my life

00:27:28

and therefore to say that

00:27:30

he chose the Aqua disco for himself, but this is

00:27:31

also overexposure, to put it mildly, and these

00:27:33

methods were transferred to the film traitors,

00:27:35

nothing qualitatively new

00:27:36

happened to say, yes, but if you touch on or

00:27:41

there is the role of Boris Abramovich Berezovsky,

00:27:43

who in this film is significantly

00:27:44

exaggerated In my opinion, But

00:27:47

of course, it was far from equal to zero, but

00:27:49

Berezovsky was by no means the master of the Kremlin and the country,

00:27:50

and he was still in a

00:27:54

dependent subordinate position in

00:27:56

relation to the family of Boris Nikolaevich himself.

00:27:58

Tatya Borisochenko and

00:28:01

if, early in the year, his

00:28:06

communications with the Kremlin were mediated by

00:28:08

Alexander Vasilyevich Korkov and

00:28:10

Viktor Vasilyevich Ilyushin, then after the

00:28:13

fall of these outstanding personalities

00:28:16

In the sense of Alexander Vasilyevich, the fall of And

00:28:19

Viktor Vasilyevich was simply quiet Removal

00:28:20

from his inner circle was already

00:28:24

quick and when they they wanted to get rid of him,

00:28:27

this reluctance was accepted, I’m sure you

00:28:29

will laugh at the end of 1999, and it

00:28:33

wasn’t Putin who was the family, but the

00:28:35

brilliant plan was implemented in 2000.

00:28:38

Berezovsky couldn’t do anything to counter this. But also with

00:28:44

interest, the family decided to

00:28:50

remove the

00:28:52

clause out of

00:28:59

interest to answer the question why Bori

00:29:00

Nikolaevi retired early

00:29:02

on my

00:29:04

vz reasons two one this is the tip of the iceberg

00:29:08

in that it was necessary not to spill And

00:29:10

by the way not to spill one of the favorite

00:29:13

terms one of Vladimir Putin’s favorite networks Vladimi

00:29:16

Vladimiro’s rating 52%

00:29:20

Therefore it was necessary to bring the elections closer to

00:29:22

Nigo

00:29:28

deeper and closer to

00:29:31

the truth, the seed wanted Putin to come

00:29:33

quickly because he understood

00:29:36

the people who installed Putin as

00:29:38

Yeltsin’s successor. He was completely

00:29:40

manageable and controllable, it was easier to deal with

00:29:42

him than with the pope,

00:29:45

although he was sick in that time and largely

00:29:46

isolated from information unnecessary to him

00:29:48

but still much less predictable

00:29:50

predictable as we know

00:29:58

in the 8th when Boris Abramovich very

00:30:02

unsuccessfully took part in the

00:30:03

reappointment of Viktor Stepanovich black

00:30:06

prime minister as you remember the

00:30:08

appointment failed as a result

00:30:10

the prime minister became not very convenient for the

00:30:11

family of Evgeniy Maksimovich

00:30:14

Primakov because it was completely

00:30:16

unacceptable for 146 rin Mikhail Lumkoy was

00:30:20

then eager as prime minister

00:30:28

the family considered that Boris Abramovich

00:30:29

played his negative role in the fact that it was not

00:30:31

possible to push through Chern, including

00:30:33

because he gained too much like

00:30:36

Korzhakov at one time there was too much

00:30:38

publicity in this sense, too much

00:30:42

associated with the degree is not so, but with this

00:30:45

he also caused additional irritation

00:30:47

of many against the re-appointment of

00:30:50

Cherno, even then he leaves the fate of

00:30:53

his criminal charges

00:30:58

with then this Armed Forces stinks like Primakov’s

00:31:00

persecution of Berezovsky But this is a façade behind

00:31:03

which they were not hiding at all Primakov's

00:31:05

persecution because both the FSB of the Russian Federation, headed by

00:31:09

Putin, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, headed by Vladi

00:31:12

Boris Rusha were headed, controlled by

00:31:14

the family and the family could, let's say,

00:31:17

give persecution for this, therefore, in our country, Nerushay

00:31:21

was the Minister of Internal Affairs

00:31:26

Demi Dadada I don't care Of course Of

00:31:30

course Stepashin but also Putin and

00:31:32

Stepashin these were family candidates,

00:31:34

they were controlled by the Yeltsin family,

00:31:36

so the family could say they could have

00:31:38

used them so that

00:31:39

everything would be fine with Berezovsky, they did

00:31:41

not do this on purpose to keep

00:31:42

Berezovsky at a distance,

00:31:44

then Berezovsky was returned to him and allowed to

00:31:46

return to the Russian Federation in May 1999 when

00:31:49

Evgeniy Maksimovich Primakov is

00:31:51

dismissed Sergei Vadimovich Shin

00:31:53

becomes briefly Prime Minister and

00:31:55

Yeltsin's successor from May 16, when

00:32:00

he becomes his prime minister, until

00:32:02

August 9, when he assumes his post as

00:32:04

Putin. He is the successor, he is the first successor. He

00:32:06

just disappointed the family and therefore

00:32:09

was replaced by absolutely reliable

00:32:11

Putin or Pashin turned out to be not reliable enough,

00:32:14

so Berezovsky is being returned because they

00:32:17

need to prepare a hot autumn in the sense of

00:32:19

needing information and political

00:32:20

technological support for this hot

00:32:22

autumn, including the parliamentary campaign, and

00:32:24

here, firstly, Berezovsky

00:32:26

was certainly a very strong

00:32:28

political creator and media manager Media

00:32:30

technologist the manager, of course,

00:32:32

was not a technologist at all, he was

00:32:34

indispensable in this sense, but he was also

00:32:36

indispensable as a lightning rod on which

00:32:38

you can point your finger and say

00:32:39

Berezovsky is to blame for everything when everything was

00:32:42

decided, when it became clear that

00:32:43

Putin’s rating is 52 and the success of the project is

00:32:47

beyond doubt as and the success of the

00:32:49

unity bloc in the Duma elections Berezovsky

00:32:51

ceased to be needed, he turned from a

00:32:54

necessary element of this power

00:32:56

machine into an irritating factor

00:32:59

ores.

00:33:00

Again, publicity is not everything for him. Priest

00:33:04

liked to blab something out, liked to take credit for

00:33:06

something, this was completely

00:33:09

unnecessary, she treated KVS with great

00:33:11

respect as an interlocutor and a source of

00:33:14

ideas, but preferred to keep him at a

00:33:16

distance, sat abroad somewhere

00:33:18

on important state affairs, did not

00:33:20

influence in any way.

00:33:41

Russian

00:33:43

Federation to seriously influence the Armed Forces, what is

00:33:46

happening here, these positions diverged and

00:33:49

with a clear advantage, this battle

00:33:51

was won

00:33:57

by at that time he was the family

00:34:01

president of the game, he did not

00:34:03

have his own powerful team, it

00:34:05

subsequently appeared quite

00:34:06

quickly But not then

00:34:10

and at the same time it is necessary to say that Boriso

00:34:12

Aramovich was treated very vegetarianly; they did

00:34:14

not take away these assets, but

00:34:16

bought them back at the then market value and

00:34:18

in total he received

00:34:21

his bank account for three assets, which was never

00:34:24

registered in his name; there is a sense in this; he was

00:34:27

certainly right and it was no coincidence that he won

00:34:30

this court it was implied, this

00:34:32

share was a legally unprotected, illiquid,

00:34:35

absolutely block of shares in ORT, which

00:34:37

could not be sold on the open

00:34:39

market because no one needed it, and a

00:34:41

twenty-five percent stake in

00:34:42

Aeroflot in total received almost 2 billion

00:34:44

dollars, which, so to speak, at that time

00:34:46

with what the current 10 that is The Kremlin

00:34:49

parted ways with him, generally on friendly terms, and

00:34:52

removed him completely from the

00:34:53

levers of influence. But he compensated for this with

00:34:56

large cash injections because it was

00:35:05

originally in charge of Finan Berezov,

00:35:09

after his sudden death in 2008, that

00:35:15

some people were shaking

00:35:28

because it seemed very clear that he was sewing up what was going

00:35:31

on with his death, huge

00:35:33

Berezovsky assets disappear, many knew this, but

00:35:36

then I began to understand this situation.

00:35:38

I delved into it and no, now I don’t

00:35:40

think so, and I haven’t thought so for a long time. I

00:35:42

think that Bali was in a state of

00:35:45

deep clinical depression after

00:35:47

his defeat in

00:35:49

Georgia that he considered himself unconditionally the

00:35:51

number one figure in Georgia, this was not

00:35:53

so, but he was inclined to add his

00:35:56

role in world history, we must give him his

00:35:59

due,

00:36:00

and when he was outright, he had to play

00:36:03

in Georgia the same role that he later played and

00:36:05

successfully played by gasoline Grigorievich

00:36:07

Ivanishvili He was supposed to become a

00:36:10

businessman and the owner of the country, but he

00:36:12

lost in its purest form simply by knockout from

00:36:14

Mikhail Nikolaevich Saakashvili and this

00:36:17

whom he considered almost, so to

00:36:19

speak, a little boy compared

00:36:20

to the great himself, and he did not endure this defeat, he did

00:36:23

not survive this. In the literal sense of the

00:36:25

word, that’s why no one killed Bari Shawi

00:36:28

Please forgive me Stanislav Asanovich

00:36:31

there is a short commercial break, now we

00:36:34

have passed approximately the middle of our

00:36:37

conversation and it’s time to remind us that it’s worth it.

00:36:41

It seems to me that our channels should be subscribed to

00:36:44

my channel and to the channel of Stanislav

00:36:47

Belkovsky, isn’t it true that the

00:36:49

description for this video has everything

00:36:55

you need parameters of

00:36:57

the project that Stanislav Aleksandrovich

00:37:00

is working on please don’t miss it I

00:37:03

want to separately renounce here back to back the

00:37:05

just held premiere of the

00:37:08

special Olympic episode of the sedan

00:37:10

show during Belkovsky’s time which is called

00:37:12

Putin sport great terror this is about

00:37:14

Putin’s current conflict with the

00:37:16

international Olympic movement and the

00:37:18

question of whether the Olympics will take place in

00:37:20

Paris and whether she is threatened with terrorist attacks, thank you

00:37:24

Well, please like, ask

00:37:28

questions, leave your comments and The

00:37:31

next question I would like to

00:37:34

ask you before we return

00:37:38

there we moved to Berezovsky theses

00:37:41

costo I want to finish about the film that why there is

00:37:44

so much Berezovsky in this film for the

00:37:46

same reason that the palace

00:37:48

personifies Putin’s corruption and the house on the

00:37:50

autumn yako kono

00:37:58

VIM is not there therefore as Use what is at

00:38:01

hand and don’t look for

00:38:03

something else, well, at the same time, you have a couple of questions

00:38:08

I have and I think that these are the questions

00:38:11

they would like to ask you people who

00:38:14

are still interested in the ins and outs of the

00:38:17

fascinating

00:38:19

dramatic Russian politics of the late

00:38:22

nineties and early 2000s, you

00:38:25

said that Berezovsky was returned,

00:38:28

including by his family, in May of

00:38:31

ninety-nine, because there

00:38:32

were elections ahead and they needed to be

00:38:35

ensured polytechnological

00:38:43

included the story of the

00:38:48

Islamist raid in Dagestan and

00:38:51

subsequent explosions of houses, this is

00:38:54

not known to me for certain, but I do not

00:39:01

exclude the possibility that the official

00:39:03

version is correct, but I do not exclude

00:39:05

the opposite, that the houses

00:39:07

were actually blown up in order to create a pretext for the

00:39:09

Chechen war, which in the end

00:39:11

was the main factor in the operation, the successor is

00:39:15

undoubtedly

00:39:27

from us and then could have delved into this better than

00:39:32

Even if the Armed Forces were organized by the

00:39:33

Kremlin, it would definitely be without the participation of

00:39:35

Berezovsky, if only because

00:39:37

Boris Aramovich at that time did not have

00:39:38

influence on these delicate aspects,

00:39:40

that is, on the security forces. And he certainly would not have been entrusted with such a

00:39:44

secret operation to drive the inclination of everything.

00:39:50

I just didn’t understand

00:39:54

one thing about your concept

00:39:58

Berezovsky wanted the return of

00:40:00

Chernomyrdin to the post of prime minister

00:40:03

or not Or did he interfere No he wanted

00:40:06

he interfered with his public

00:40:08

support for this project which called out

00:40:12

that this was

00:40:13

Berezovsky’s project although Agirov publicly

00:40:16

about Che was not necessary in the opinion many

00:40:19

had to sit quietly and

00:40:26

wait with the communists, in fact, with

00:40:28

the majority of the State Duma,

00:40:30

that black would be blocked, promises

00:40:33

mountains of gold, I won’t be able to, mountains of gold,

00:40:35

and Ri Mikhailovich had all the possibilities

00:40:38

for this, they already existed then, which is why

00:40:40

black did not pass in any way,

00:40:42

regardless of Berezovsky But the fact that

00:40:44

Boris Abramovich was still promoting against this background

00:40:46

and made it clear in every possible way that he was behind

00:40:49

Viktor Stepanovich even from the beginning.

00:41:00

And didn’t he force his

00:41:02

resignation? No, let’s say it was like this

00:41:06

because in those days the Armed Forces were connected

00:41:08

with Berezovsky and it must be said that

00:41:10

Boris Nikolaevich Elna’s family was happy with it up to a certain

00:41:12

point because it’s again

00:41:15

like a

00:41:16

GTR situation, it’s very disastrous, he’s to blame for everything,

00:41:18

he’s a terrible infernal person

00:41:27

and is faced with the fact of this decision.

00:41:29

In my

00:41:31

opinion, listen. Did the family then

00:41:34

seriously count on Sergei

00:41:37

Vladilenovich Kiriyenko having the potential

00:41:40

to become A’s successor? How is Serg Vladilen

00:41:43

qualitatively different from Vladimi Putin of

00:41:45

those

00:41:46

times on August 9, 2010, you

00:41:49

took Putin seriously in the

00:41:58

past? A person is nominated as a

00:42:01

successor with the administration, complete madness then

00:42:05

several months pass and the country

00:42:07

enthusiastically elects this person as

00:42:08

president; this was in our century; there are

00:42:11

qualitative differences between these politicians I

00:42:14

don’t

00:42:16

[music]

00:42:17

see there was no cold malice in him

00:42:26

and you can’t call him spineless.

00:42:28

Especially taking into account the analysis of his

00:42:31

subsequent political career when

00:42:32

he had already left the Bosom of the Yeltsin family and

00:42:35

moved into the Bosom of the Kovalchuk clan, he became a

00:42:38

representative not of the old but of the new

00:42:40

power team but so to speak,

00:42:42

He was always quite tough and

00:42:44

consistent in carrying out his decisions. It’s

00:42:46

just that life didn’t work out, the

00:42:47

global financial crisis of 2008 happened,

00:42:50

which crippled the Kiriyenko government

00:42:52

and in this sense, he lost

00:42:54

any presidential prospects.

00:42:58

Well, that’s logical

00:43:00

enough in principle convincingly, but

00:43:02

returning to the story with the film of the singers. Why is it

00:43:09

here, we can talk about its advantages and

00:43:12

disadvantages, we can

00:43:15

talk about how convincing it is and

00:43:18

corresponds to historical truth, but in

00:43:20

principle, in your opinion, why is this story

00:43:24

now, I will now tell you why it is needed and

00:43:28

my explanation it will be so simple that

00:43:30

you won’t immediately believe it, the film traitors

00:43:34

is needed to create a very

00:43:35

popular media product that

00:43:38

will have tens of millions of

00:43:41

views, many including you and I are

00:43:43

contributing to this now, it’s

00:43:45

true that everything worked in a sense.

00:43:48

Yes, that’s all. The

00:43:53

thing is that years ago many years

00:43:57

ago, the Russian opposition, opponents of

00:44:00

Vladimi Putin, in a broad sense,

00:44:02

have learned to measure the political

00:44:03

effectiveness of certain efforts by the

00:44:06

number of views on the

00:44:09

Internet. I have always been skeptical

00:44:11

about this theory because the number of

00:44:14

views does not at all mean support for

00:44:17

the ideas

00:44:20

contained

00:44:23

l 120 ml people watched the film The

00:44:26

Palace there But this does not mean at all that there are millions

00:44:28

against Putin; it’s just that everyone was interested in

00:44:30

looking at the home of the Russian Tsar, the

00:44:32

owner of the Russian land; among them there were

00:44:35

many millions of Putin’s supporters, and I

00:44:37

myself heard the point of view of different people there

00:44:39

about what, so what, yes. Of course we

00:44:40

looked. But why if the

00:44:42

whole country belongs to Putin Why can’t he

00:44:44

have such a palace what’s so

00:44:47

supernatural therefore But this is the

00:44:50

establishment of a psychological relationship

00:44:52

between the popularity of a Media product and its

00:44:54

political effectiveness, it has already

00:44:56

become a property of the Russian opposition,

00:44:57

it operates in this format, will it be in

00:44:59

this sense the traitor’s project is

00:45:02

undoubtedly successful. I’m saying that the bourgeoisie and

00:45:05

heated discussion around it

00:45:07

certainly contributes to this worldwide, so why do

00:45:11

you assume that Maria Pevchikh

00:45:14

wants to

00:45:15

become the new leader of this segment of the

00:45:19

Russian

00:45:20

opposition? Well, she is objectively

00:45:24

one of the important heirs of Alexei

00:45:25

Anatolyevich Navalny. She is the key

00:45:28

figure of VBK as far as the first person of VBK

00:45:30

today. No, of course the main

00:45:32

Heir is Yulia Borisovna Navalnaya. I

00:45:34

think that no one can

00:45:36

doubt this in this segment of the Russian

00:45:38

opposition, but Maria Konstantinovna also

00:45:40

means figure number two and she is

00:45:41

gaining a foothold in this niche. So this is not

00:45:45

is there a struggle between them? Well, I have no

00:45:47

information that there is some kind of struggle between them. In addition, there is a

00:45:51

legitimate infusion of the Heir, there is only one

00:45:54

bev

00:45:55

Bori between them cannot be

00:45:57

productive, I don’t suspect that it is there.

00:45:59

Well, that is, I, some hidden

00:46:01

nuances always exist but Of course,

00:46:04

none of these people can be

00:46:05

interested in the collapse of the VBK publication, and

00:46:08

internal competition can lead to such a collapse.

00:46:10

Well, there is also a

00:46:11

factor of competition with the leaders of other

00:46:15

segments of the

00:46:16

anti-Putin resistance, let’s say

00:46:19

the more successful the film Traitors is at the

00:46:21

box office, the more arguments there are for why it is the

00:46:24

head In general, the

00:46:27

Russian

00:46:28

opposition Well, that is why,

00:46:32

for example, Mikhail

00:46:35

Khodorkovsky reacts so sharply. Well, it seems to me that he

00:46:37

reacts somewhat more sharply than he

00:46:39

should, but however, this is the business of Michal

00:46:41

Borisovich. He does not ask my advice

00:46:43

on this issue, but I must say that

00:46:46

if we return to the basic concept

00:46:48

film, yes, to a large extent, I

00:46:50

agree with her Benonism T on the shoulders of de

00:46:53

gov the foundations are laid by a

00:46:57

small

00:46:58

episode E times I return to the idea that it’s just

00:47:01

convenient to show it to the people, like

00:47:03

Putin’s palace or the numerous

00:47:05

residence of Dmitry Anatol

00:47:08

Medvedev, the fact that Russia is not repentant

00:47:11

for totalitarianism played a role did not renounce the

00:47:13

totalitarian ideology of the totalitarian

00:47:15

period of its history, this is much more important than

00:47:17

everything else. That is why the

00:47:27

humiliation of the 20s should have become president after Yelnya and

00:47:29

Putin may not have become Putin. But he is exactly the

00:47:34

same person occupying exactly the same

00:47:36

historical niche and in this sense he has not

00:47:38

renounced the elites when they supported Putin in the

00:47:41

late nineties, including those people

00:47:43

who today are categorically against

00:47:45

him, proceeded from the fact that there will be two

00:47:47

Putins, there will be a people’s Putin, yes, with an

00:47:51

icy look and a reminder of the

00:47:55

greatness of Soviet times and the real one, and there will be an

00:47:57

elite Putin, our good guy with

00:48:00

whom we drink and have a snack and

00:48:01

which fully guarantees our

00:48:03

interests. And most importantly, it protects us from the people and

00:48:06

from democracy in which

00:48:08

only the red-brown plague can win,

00:48:09

nothing more, in fact, under the sign of

00:48:13

which the whole end of the day, but then

00:48:16

Find out these ways if in one Although to

00:48:19

say that Putin

00:48:27

knows there

00:48:30

was no yoke with Ukraine, and even

00:48:33

the war with Ukraine did not force these same

00:48:35

people from the early 20s. I don’t mean the

00:48:36

lake cooperative, not those who arrived from the

00:48:38

path to the 2000s, but those

00:48:40

of the Architects of the project, the successor of 99 did not

00:48:44

force them to renounce Putin to publicly

00:48:47

declare that he is wrong. They are still

00:48:48

running between the trickles and with indifference to the

00:48:56

guarantor of their numerous divorced

00:48:58

interests, and in this sense, I am ready to agree with my

00:49:01

Konstantino Perchik.

00:49:05

And in this logic about which you said

00:49:09

that it certainly should have appeared after Yeltsin a

00:49:12

person like Putin,

00:49:14

insofar as Russia did not renounce

00:49:16

totalitarianism and all the time obsessively

00:49:19

declared itself the legal successor of the Soviet

00:49:21

Union, not only formally but also

00:49:22

actually well. And who will replace Putin?

00:49:28

Putin is a kind of analogue of the Stalinist

00:49:29

regime and there cannot be an analogue to Stalin.

00:49:32

Stalin is exclusive as after the change there will be

00:49:35

some kind of collegial leadership from his

00:49:38

closest associates who have subjected to

00:49:41

revision an absolutely creative Legacy like the

00:49:43

Heirs of Stalin But these will be his own

00:49:46

people it doesn’t depend on the scenario

00:49:49

if yay

00:49:57

this will be a much less important figure

00:49:58

in the political system and the fate of

00:50:00

the country And if you say the Lord God

00:50:03

will call Vladimir if you are still in office,

00:50:05

then it will be the current

00:50:06

Prime Minister simply according to the

00:50:09

Constitution. Well, then a fight begins

00:50:12

between the heirs, if we speak according to post-

00:50:17

Talin, it is completely inevitable,

00:50:21

yes, the only question is how

00:50:24

merciless and bloody it will be. Yes, the

00:50:27

fight between Under different groups of

00:50:29

influence in Putin’s entourage was going on all these

00:50:31

years and it did not become completely

00:50:34

merciless and bloody, largely thanks to

00:50:35

Putin as the moderator of this entire system. That is why

00:50:38

all the participants in the Fight

00:50:40

were in one way or another, to one

00:50:41

degree or another, but vitally interested in Putin

00:50:42

and, sadly

00:50:45

or ridiculously, they remain despite the war and

00:50:47

all its consequences, including

00:50:49

sanctions for them, not well, a huge

00:50:52

number of figures have gone into the shadows Well, you

00:50:54

must agree, after all,

00:50:56

from Viktor Ivanov

00:50:58

to God,

00:51:01

the name

00:51:03

Vku flew out of my head Well, as is age, health is

00:51:07

natural Who is leaving rotation is

00:51:10

happening Of course, it should be announced that,

00:51:11

unlike During the time of Stalin, Putin does not

00:51:14

engage in total

00:51:16

periodic systematic purges of his

00:51:17

entourage and basically the core of the team he and the paradise for

00:51:20

many years

00:51:28

brought him to power and we can now

00:51:30

list a certain number of oligarchs

00:51:32

from the money who, in complete chocolate, for

00:51:35

some reason made it possible to create a

00:51:37

mythology supposedly Where are they - they disappeared,

00:51:38

dissolved

00:51:45

Nela They are all completely in the game,

00:51:56

and in fact Tatyana Borisovna and

00:51:59

Valentino Borisovich have not gone away,

00:52:00

they retain direct access to the body,

00:52:02

of course their influence is far from the same as it

00:52:04

was at the turn of the century, but nevertheless it is

00:52:07

preserved to some

00:52:09

extent they are not strangers to Putin to this

00:52:11

day, on the other hand, these are actually the

00:52:13

Kovalkov clans, the Rotenbergs of Timchenko

00:52:15

Sechin, and so on, which

00:52:17

were formed already during the presidency of

00:52:18

Vladimirovich Putin, they are all in

00:52:20

such a dynamic there is Patrushev,

00:52:22

anyone, then you can also have a lot of them and

00:52:25

you can argue for a long time, they are all there in

00:52:26

dynamic equilibrium in such a

00:52:27

Brownian movement and the guarantor of their

00:52:30

balance that this system does not go

00:52:31

into disarray, of course, the tyrant himself personally acts

00:52:34

directly, Uh-huh, and this is

00:52:37

perhaps the main reason that he

00:52:41

remains in power and does not go anywhere,

00:52:43

of course, because As well as Libra according to the

00:52:45

horoscope and he understands well in

00:52:50

balance

00:52:53

Uh-huh Well, let's

00:52:57

see what happens next with these

00:52:59

films and

00:53:01

with the inevitable struggle around them. It

00:53:05

seems to me that something else awaits

00:53:07

ahead, well, the main thing is that you and I have something

00:53:10

to do and that’s what we need

00:53:14

We look at this issue with burning eyes and

00:53:16

discuss it all with aspiration. Many

00:53:18

thanks to FBK and Maria

00:53:21

Konstantin. Well, thank you for

00:53:24

this conversation.

00:53:26

Thank you all. Dat. I think that my viewers

00:53:31

share this. I remind you once again in the

00:53:33

description of this video, all the full

00:53:35

information about how where And why do you

00:53:39

need to watch the channel and separate projects of

00:53:43

Stanislav Belkovsky Well, don’t forget,

00:53:45

please subscribe to my channel too, like,

00:53:48

ask questions, leave

00:53:51

comments and see you next time, it

00:53:53

will be soon thank you

00:53:55

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