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Ukraine from any side, but today we will

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talk about complex things and what

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the West argues about among themselves as the leaders of

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Ukraine see it will it be the Russia of the future

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will it exist at all not only of course the

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most important events for this day by

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this hour We will discuss with senior

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researchers at the Center for

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Security Policy in Washington I have great

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pleasure in inviting

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Andrei Larionov to the conversation Mr. Larionov

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Good evening Good evening

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Larionov Let us start with The topic of

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the news that came to us

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last week It says that the

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Western press, at least one of the

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political publications, recognized the President of

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the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin as a

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murderer and the loser of the year. I

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always make a postscript on my own that the war,

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Unfortunately, is not lost yet Russian

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the economy is not yet in ruins. The Russian

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army, unfortunately, is still on the territory of

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Ukraine. So, do you agree or are you

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ready to argue that Putin is the

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loser of the year?

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Before answering your question, I

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would like to ask you a question. Please tell me,

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you don’t like Ukraine.

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I adore it, it’s mine. the country is

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new, act against it Of course not,

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but I hope not, but with your

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actions and repent with your words, and

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in discussions you are working against

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Ukraine, I wanted to understand why you

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are doing this

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Larionov, please explain, Because

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before I defend myself, I must know

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what you are accusing me of.

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they wrote at least so it comes on

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your behalf that you first made it

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possible for the enemies of Ukraine to speak on the air on your

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channel and said yes, that’s

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completely normal, the enemies of Ukraine have the

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right to speak on your channel on your

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channel,

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I wrote about the enemies of Ukraine who

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have the right to speak on our channel Well,

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no, it seems to me that the enemies of Ukraine

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should not speak on our channels.

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But just a few days

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ago, during that broadcast, which

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unfortunately we did not take place in full

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format

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as it was supposed to take place, apparently did not

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take place due to a hacker attack

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that did not allowed us to talk.

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In your comments to this material there

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were quite a lot of statements about the

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enemies of Ukraine whom you allow on

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your air and you called

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yes, this is normal, absolutely everyone has the

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right to speak out and we give the right

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to speak out to all enemies of Ukraine, the

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story is that very many in

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the comments they really

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say what we like or are these

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guests, don’t invite them, don’t invite them. I

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said that our platform is our channel,

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when we call, we call a variety of people

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and the enemies of Ukraine will definitely not

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appear here. But even if our audience

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thinks that these people are not we must be

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heard precisely for freedom of speech for

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democracy so that different people are

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represented on our broadcast like this,

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this was said

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Yes, but this means that you think

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it is possible that the enemies of Ukraine can

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take part in the broadcasts of your channel

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and see the question question but already the

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corresponding person was indicated there says

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Ukraine on What he said Everyone has the right

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to express this you have now repeated

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this point of view right here I

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will not argue about what was

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said a few days ago Because I cannot

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repeat verbatim the words that were said

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then I will say it again I repeat that I

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assume that my audience may

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have different views. If you are now in

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the comments, they can write why you

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called. And I will say that if I called, then

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I consider my guest the right important

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important and interesting and the enemies will never

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get in. On the contrary, I am calling my own here

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guests so that there are different opinions with

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different views, and so on,

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then a direct question for you because you

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responded to the corresponding remark,

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they answered, and when they wrote to you

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that why are you calling such an enemy of

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Ukraine as Andrei Larionov, in particular

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the one who is now in front of you,

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you and there in detail told which enemy of

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Ukraine is the answer And that Sweden is not the same

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question mark These are your words this is

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not the opinion of your commentators

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Accordingly, with these words you

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allowed yourself to equate the real

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enemy of Ukraine

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Mr. Shvets with a person who is a

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friend of Ukraine who for many

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years has been doing completely incomparable

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Defense on all issues Ukraine, thus

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you not only supported the position about those

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either illiterate people or

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ignorant people or really

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enemies of Ukraine and bots who carry out the

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task of the KGB FSB of the Kremlin to undermine

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supporters of friends of Ukraine, but you

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authorized with them and, moreover, you

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tried to equate your friends,

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friends of the country

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with the enemies of Ukraine thus, objectively

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speaking, you acted in the interests of the enemies of

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Ukraine, why did you do this?

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You know that we invited you

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because we want to hear from you about Mr.

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Swiss, something was written in

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the comments, I don’t know him, in

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principle, I can’t talk about him at

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all Because I am not a viewer of

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his blog, I don’t follow what he

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says, but he is a really

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popular person in the YouTube segment,

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so you are now asking me that I

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was responsible for the comment

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that I read in a row. That is, you

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must understand that we did not invite you

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in order to offend you If you were an

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enemy, in principle you were not invited because

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it simply contradicts logic

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because this is my time this is the time of my

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audience We have been waiting for you and I don’t

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understand why you want to figure out

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what doesn’t make sense if you think

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that we invited you because if we want to

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offend you Well, there is no point in this,

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why should we do this, but I won’t,

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I don’t mean who to invite and for

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what purposes I apologize, I’ll allow you to

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answer

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in this case, with your comment you

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allowed yourself to equate those people who

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help Ukraine Who does everything possible

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In order to help with those who are doing

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the maximum possible to harm

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Ukraine, I’m not talking about an invitation to

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broadcast, I’m now talking about your specific

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comment with which you, firstly, yourself

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showed your attitude, and secondly, further

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an example of how from your point of view,

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it is possible for your viewers and listeners to

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treat you as friends of Ukraine

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instead of explaining to your

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viewers and listeners who made

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a mistake or who make mistakes

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intentionally or not intentionally, you thereby

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ask that this is how it can and

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should be done to act in this

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way objectively, regardless of your

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desire, regardless of whether you invited you did

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not invite you invite

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your other viewers to act

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in this way, I would like to draw your

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attention and also to your viewers and

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listeners and also to any other

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journalists who are trying to

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act in this way, that by such

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actions you cause damage first

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of all your own country to your

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own people, sooner or later

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such actions can lead to the fact that

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your friends will refuse will be forced to

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refuse this help this does not

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concern me Because this is my

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fundamental choice But other people

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may turn out to be much more

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thin-skinned and can really

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accept for themselves other decisions

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were made on this let's finish I drew your

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attention and drew the attention of our

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viewers and listeners to the inadmissibility of

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such actions and accordingly

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I urge you and also your colleagues to

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stop and suppress such attempts

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at the very beginning so that

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people try You must including

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helping them explain who is a friend

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and who is an enemy,

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I am my audience Larionov, as you

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are doing to me now, although I am not

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your marriage and it seems to me that you are

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not guilty of anything, I always tell my

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audience that I am giving them information,

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now is the opportunity hear you and

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leave three points, everyone makes their

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own choice, everyone draws their own conclusions

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because a person is responsible for

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himself, for his life, for his conclusions, that’s

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all, and you want to impose some

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point on them. It won’t work, we don’t want a

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point

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from the point of view of

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I can speak Yes Please Thank you with

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your statement equating the enemy of

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Ukraine with a disinformer And an employee of the KGB

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FSB who

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has been working against Ukraine for many decades participated in not a

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single operation to undermine the security of the

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sovereignty of the independence of Ukraine and

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a number of people equating the friends

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of Ukraine with these enemies, you are thereby

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acting on the benefit of the enemies of Ukraine and

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therefore I simply draw your attention

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also to the attention of all other viewers and

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listeners who write relevant

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comments that in this way these people,

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if these people act not consciously

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without understanding what they are doing, they are acting

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against Ukraine I am not talking about those bots

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and those big trolls who launch,

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including in the comments to your

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channel, as well as to many other channels,

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and their task at work is this I

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now draw attention to, I draw the

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attention of those people who do not understand this. It

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seemed to me that you were like an experienced, smart And

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talented journalist who does not write

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first day, your program is able to

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distinguish friends from enemies. Judging by the

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comment that was made, you are

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not always able to do this. Therefore, I am making

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my small contribution to

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help you and your

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fellow friends, too, so that you do

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n’t make such mistakes again because this

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weakens Ukraine and the program of

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Ukraine

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Larionov helps. It seems to me that for a person

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who was not even on our stream,

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was not on our channel even once, we spent

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invaluable 10 minutes, it seems to me, because

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it’s both your and my time. Well, okay,

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let’s assume that this is my experience of some kind

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this is your recommendation I’m very sorry,

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I’m very sorry that I want people to

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hear your analytics and the analytics of the

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comment. It seems to me that this is

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important and this is necessary, and it seems to me that you

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have something to say when you say that

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you are a friend of Ukraine. Let’s then

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talk about what - support for

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our country is the most important thing today; the

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information war is going on and continues.

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Well, of course, we are all

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participants in it. What was said

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is one of the most valuable because

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for a large number of your viewers and

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listeners, as well as for citizens

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of Ukraine, it is important to help them understand who is a

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friend and who is an enemy, and in this sense, I

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am doing my job, you are doing your job. But

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in this matter, it would be extremely wrong

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if you or your colleagues helped the

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enemies of Ukraine, let’s move on to

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your question again.

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You were interested in whether you agree

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I am with the assessment that Putin is the

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loser of the year No, I don’t agree with this

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I don’t consider him a loser, a

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loser, I consider him a criminal,

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a criminal who has been waging a

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bloody war against Ukraine for almost 9 years,

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as a result of which

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tens if not hundreds of thousands of

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people have died in In Ukraine, and before that, people died,

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and in Georgia, in Syria, and on

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Russian territory in Chechnya, according to various estimates,

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up to 600 thousand people died. For the death of all these

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people, Putin is primarily responsible, who

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has unleashed more than

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one war and continues to wage wars,

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including Now the most important thing The

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worst thing The most disgusting vile

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war against Ukraine I will consider that it

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became the success of Ukraine will be the Victory of

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Ukraine the complete liberation of the entire

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territory of Ukraine from the occupiers

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the restoration of the territorial

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integrity of Ukraine the return of all people

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captured and found themselves in captivity or in

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occupied territory who

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were captured by the occupiers payment of all

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reparations for the restoration of Ukraine and

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also the creation of conditions for

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security guarantees so that from the territory of Russia

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under Putin, without Putin, after Putin, no

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new war would ever be unleashed, not against Ukraine, not about not

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against one other neighbor. When

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this happens, I will consider it

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Ukraine’s luck. the success of Ukraine has

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not yet happened, for this we must

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fight for this, we must fight, and for this we

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still need to do a lot, we,

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unfortunately, are still far from the

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state that is described by these

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conditions

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Larionov just last week,

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probably Manuel Macron spoke about

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security guarantees for the Russian

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Federation but he meant his own

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indicators, of course, not the way they

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immediately began to interpret it in Ukraine.

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Because after all, France and Macron to a greater

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extent. I think they are on the

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side of Ukraine, but here they started

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joking. What, but why not let go this

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will be the Budapest memorandum for the

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Russian Federation When you talk about the

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guarantee that it will never

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happen again and Russia will not be able to attack,

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what kind of guarantees are these, who will

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sign them and how can this be done if

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it remains a nuclear country,

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you know, I don’t understand what a

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security guarantee is for today's Russia,

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especially What exactly does Mr.

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Macron mean? But all these things that you just

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mentioned, nuclear weapons, we understand

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here mean it may make sense to

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pay attention. What the point is is

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that the very fact of Russia’s attack on Ukraine

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and, accordingly, the result of this

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attack was death at least

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apparently there are now close to 100 thousand

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Russian military personnel and,

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accordingly, this is a colossal blow and

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damage directly to Russian

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citizens. I’m not even talking about the wounded,

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the maimed, and so on. That is, this is

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huge damage now we are talking about

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Russia and was caused as a result of the attacks

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that Putin carried out against Ukraine,

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respectively, Russian

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citizens died when Putin attacked both

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Syria and Georgia and carried out

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operations in Chechnya, the question arises: What

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made these attacks possible,

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these attacks were possible, it was a matter of the feeling of

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impunity of the

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impunity of the aggressor, where did

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the feeling of impunity come from, this

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feeling of impunity arose from the

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possession of nuclear weapons and therefore, a

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serious conversation about

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security guarantees for Russian citizens and

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for Russia should apparently include

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the question of what to do with nuclear

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weapons in the Russian Federation

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because we see that the presence of nuclear weapons

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in the Russian Federation is a direct

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threat to the Russian Federation and a direct

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threat to Russian citizens because that

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it is the presence of these weapons that leads to the deaths of

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tens and hundreds of thousands of Russian

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citizens and therefore it is obvious for Mr.

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Macron and for other citizens and leaders of

00:18:46

Western states who today or

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tomorrow will be ready to discuss guarantees that are

00:18:50

safe for Russia. One of the elements of

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this package should be a discussion of what to

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do with nuclear weapons that They

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are at the disposal of the Russian

00:19:01

Federation,

00:19:04

if I’m not mistaken Mr. Larionov,

00:19:06

there are no such conversations anywhere near, moreover,

00:19:08

you know very well that almost until the

00:19:11

last month the whole world, one way or another,

00:19:13

took Putin’s threats absolutely

00:19:16

seriously; today

00:19:18

we already have

00:19:19

this is separately the German Chancellor

00:19:21

Scholz, the United States of America, which

00:19:24

makes very harsh statements, but before

00:19:26

that it was taken seriously and

00:19:28

imagine, even with a change of power in the

00:19:31

Russian Federation, that someone would

00:19:33

give up the nuclear Arsenal. You

00:19:35

can really describe. You were

00:19:37

just recently in a Polish apple tree you had

00:19:39

the Congress of People's Deputies, because there too.

00:19:42

You have representatives

00:19:43

with different views, someone says

00:19:46

that this should be today's Russia,

00:19:47

but without Putin, someone says that it

00:19:49

should be different outlines of this

00:19:51

state, perhaps fewer territories,

00:19:53

but how do you imagine Can you imagine the next

00:19:55

ruler who renounces

00:19:58

Russia's nuclear arsenal? Now we

00:20:01

were talking about Mr. Macron, we

00:20:03

are approaching him, and indeed I cannot

00:20:05

say that I know the details of what

00:20:07

proposals he makes and what he is

00:20:09

discussing. But since you are talking about the fact

00:20:12

that Mr. Macron was worried about

00:20:14

the possibility of using

00:20:16

Putin's nuclear weapons, accordingly, now we are

00:20:18

talking not only about security guarantees

00:20:21

for Russia and for Russian citizens

00:20:23

who, if Putin commits

00:20:25

such actions, are really

00:20:28

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00:20:29

part of the victims of this use, but other

00:20:33

possible victims are those

00:20:35

against whom these weapons can be

00:20:37

directed then there is, accordingly, we are

00:20:39

talking about security guarantees for Europe

00:20:41

for the world now, not only about

00:20:44

Ukraine, so the very fact of the

00:20:47

presence of nuclear weapons in the hands of the owner of

00:20:50

the Kremlin speaks

00:20:57

citizens

00:21:00

about the Russian Federation, European

00:21:02

countries around the world, the general world

00:21:05

of security, accordingly, in the interests of the

00:21:08

international community, make a

00:21:11

decision about what to do with nuclear

00:21:13

weapons, which the

00:21:16

owner of the Kremlin and the

00:21:20

leadership of the Russian Federation now possess for one reason or another, this

00:21:22

question is now not only and not

00:21:24

so much a question Ukraine, this is an

00:21:27

issue not only for the immediate

00:21:29

neighbors of the Russian Federation, this

00:21:31

is an issue for Russia and the

00:21:33

surrounding world, compliance. This

00:21:36

issue must be resolved. This issue,

00:21:37

naturally, can be resolved not only

00:21:41

in the apple tree, not only by the Congress of People's

00:21:44

Deputies; in order to resolve this

00:21:47

issue, it is necessary to involve the participation of

00:21:49

many people

00:21:50

by force On both sides, an important role in this is played by the

00:21:54

armed forces of Ukraine,

00:21:57

as well as

00:21:59

Western countries, as well as the entire

00:22:01

international community, we do not think

00:22:03

that this issue can be resolved today

00:22:05

or tomorrow, but sooner or later this issue

00:22:07

must be resolved, I

00:22:09

don’t know. Well then, once again

00:22:11

I will use the words that were

00:22:13

spoken by macron it’s just that they are like a red

00:22:15

line, not about macron, but the idea itself is to

00:22:18

save the face of the Russian Federation, you

00:22:20

know, I think that for us in Ukraine this

00:22:22

is perceived as extremely painful. Well,

00:22:24

somehow, to save face, the state

00:22:26

that attacked us, which committed a

00:22:28

massive riot, is a riot not as a geolocation, but

00:22:31

as a phenomenon throughout the country and Mr.

00:22:34

Larionov I think it would be fair

00:22:35

to say that Amir does not yet know what kind of

00:22:37

Russia he wants, what he sees as the end of

00:22:39

this war. Because there is a Western

00:22:42

press, Western analysts who write to

00:22:44

prevent Russia from being defeated too much

00:22:46

and not from winning too much

00:22:49

Ukraine Well, this sounds

00:22:51

like it’s 50/50 Let’s go back to the

00:22:54

state before February 24, which Ukraine

00:22:56

no longer agrees on. You’re just talking about

00:22:59

plans that go very far and we

00:23:02

still don’t know what

00:23:04

our allies are finally betting on

00:23:06

giving us enough

00:23:09

weapons a teaspoon at a time to defend our

00:23:11

country

00:23:12

in the first place You asked me What is

00:23:15

Macron’s point of view and

00:23:17

what, from my point of view, could be

00:23:20

provided security guarantees it

00:23:22

was This is the answer Now you are asking another

00:23:25

question and what is your position calling them

00:23:28

allies, they have never called themselves an ally.

00:23:30

They call themselves, at

00:23:32

best, partners, which is by the way. There is a big

00:23:33

difference, a fundamentally meaningful

00:23:35

difference between allies and partners, and that

00:23:38

same pipette help that you just

00:23:41

hinted about, which I’ve been

00:23:43

talking about for several months, is

00:23:45

one of the evidences Because these are not

00:23:47

allies, but partners, and they

00:23:49

are guided in their actions by their

00:23:53

own understanding of what they would

00:23:55

like to achieve. You referred to that

00:23:58

publication that was a few days

00:23:59

ago and which, in fact,

00:24:04

formulates this task in the public space. But if the

00:24:08

relationship is not allowed to become big or

00:24:11

what I would be confident that such a significant

00:24:15

Victory would be noticeable on the part of Ukraine. But what has been

00:24:17

published today has been made

00:24:19

public in the public space

00:24:21

has been an open secret in

00:24:24

Washington in the last few months

00:24:26

because this is the

00:24:28

official position of the current

00:24:30

administration of the current Baydan administration

00:24:32

in relation to Ukraine, their

00:24:35

position has been repeatedly formulated in all

00:24:38

internal negotiations discussions in

00:24:40

brainstorming sessions is to

00:24:43

not let Ukraine win, not to let Putin

00:24:47

lose, this is the official position

00:24:49

formulated and the leadership of the

00:24:52

Biden administration is

00:24:55

guided by precisely this approach, they are

00:24:58

acting from the point of view of providing

00:25:01

military assistance to Ukraine. This is the most

00:25:03

heel help in terms of the

00:25:05

constant leaking of various information

00:25:08

including intelligence ones,

00:25:09

which, it seems to me, do not always

00:25:12

benefit Ukraine and often cause

00:25:14

harm to it. And this is also manifested in

00:25:18

numerous publications of so-

00:25:20

called pressure on Ukraine,

00:25:22

forcing Ukraine to move on to

00:25:25

negotiations on unfavorable terms for

00:25:28

Ukraine on terms that do not

00:25:30

ensure the restoration of

00:25:32

territorial integrity Ukraine, all

00:25:34

this taken together is

00:25:36

evidence of the implementation of the very

00:25:39

strategy that you spoke about, which

00:25:42

became known to a wide circle of people

00:25:44

only a few days ago, but this is the

00:25:47

same strategy that the administration has been

00:25:49

pursuing since the very beginning of this

00:25:52

stage of a

00:25:53

full-scale Russian Ukrainian

00:25:56

war, the beginning of this full-scale

00:25:59

aggression with

00:26:00

Larionov accepted Putin’s side. And what’s so terrible about

00:26:03

Ukraine winning and Putin losing?

00:26:05

Putin today he’s

00:26:08

already cooperating. It’s not a

00:26:10

secret with a terrorist country, it’s

00:26:12

almost probably the same with Iran,

00:26:14

everyone there is whispering behind their back, they say. Well,

00:26:17

maybe he’s sharing nuclear

00:26:19

developments which are extremely necessary for

00:26:20

Iran And then we understand that Iran

00:26:22

will not weigh the pros and cons of waiting for 9

00:26:27

additional packages of sanctions against itself. He will have ready-made

00:26:29

weapons, he will use them. Well, that is,

00:26:31

everything here says that there is pure

00:26:33

evil and I am not suggesting of course the West should go on a

00:26:36

crusade, but evil must be

00:26:38

punished, and here are these doubts. What

00:26:41

should be in this case on the

00:26:43

other side of this cup, that it

00:26:45

outweighs them? No no Well,

00:26:47

let Ukraine just stay afloat. You

00:26:49

know, you tried to

00:26:52

equate or bring the current

00:26:55

Kremlin regime closer from the current to the current

00:26:57

Iranian regime,

00:26:58

believing that the Iranian regime is worse, but

00:27:02

you know, for

00:27:03

international security and peace and from the

00:27:07

point of view of how many people have already

00:27:08

died, the current Kremlin regime

00:27:11

is much more dangerous. I rather

00:27:13

separated them with a comma. Well, in general,

00:27:17

considering what the

00:27:19

Kremlin regime is doing today in Ukraine, I wouldn’t

00:27:21

put even a comma in it. The Kremlin

00:27:23

regime is now doing much more

00:27:26

damage to the international security world. And

00:27:29

in Ukraine, it’s really the

00:27:33

Putin regime that is committing the crime first of all. The Iranian regime

00:27:36

here is at best prestigious,

00:27:37

so I think other emphasis needs to be placed.

00:27:40

And first of all, the guilty one. The

00:27:45

Kremlin regime is committing a crime and it is no coincidence that

00:27:47

many international bodies, including the

00:27:51

European Parliament, have adopted resolutions

00:27:53

saying that this regime is

00:27:55

either a sponsor of terrorism or a

00:27:58

terrorist regime. I think that this

00:28:00

assessment is much more accurate. The

00:28:02

second thing you say is that what’s terrible

00:28:06

for Ukraine to win is never

00:28:08

just scary for anyone, for you there

00:28:11

is nothing scary in this, it is a normal phenomenon,

00:28:12

for me there is nothing scary in this. This is an

00:28:15

absolutely normal phenomenon for friends,

00:28:17

supporters of Ukraine, true allies

00:28:19

of Ukraine, this is a natural state, but

00:28:22

for those who call themselves partners, but

00:28:25

stick have a different point of view and

00:28:27

pursue other goals; for them it’s

00:28:30

really scary.

00:28:32

Why is it scary because today’s

00:28:35

Ukraine in its actions A is seriously

00:28:38

different from the Ukraine they would

00:28:40

like to see for themselves? They would like to

00:28:43

see Ukraine governed; They would like

00:28:46

Ukraine to act according to those patterns

00:28:50

A according to the demands that are heard

00:28:54

from the White House, you probably haven’t forgotten what

00:28:57

the President of the United States of

00:28:58

America said to the President of Ukraine two days before the

00:29:01

start of this large-scale

00:29:03

offensive and immediately as soon as this

00:29:06

large-scale aggression was a dream,

00:29:08

leave Kiev already, what they said about

00:29:13

colleagues

00:29:14

in the White House when Mr. Kuleba came there

00:29:17

to say you are the same

00:29:19

president. You should take care of your

00:29:22

son, about your children. You should not

00:29:24

take care of Ukraine, but not President

00:29:27

Zelensky, not Foreign Minister

00:29:30

Kuleba, nor other representatives of the

00:29:33

Ukrainian leadership, nor the leadership of the

00:29:35

armed forces of Ukraine, not all of them, not the

00:29:38

vast majority Ukrainian

00:29:39

society, they followed the advice that was

00:29:42

given from the White House for

00:29:44

many months on the eve of this aggression and

00:29:47

during this aggression they

00:29:50

decided to defend their own country

00:29:52

and fight no matter what as a killer,

00:29:54

but this was not acceptable

00:29:57

because these

00:29:59

representatives of the White House I would be happy with

00:30:02

another option for President Zelensky

00:30:05

to leave the country for Mr. Kuleba to

00:30:08

take care of his children for the

00:30:10

leadership of the Ukrainian armed forces to

00:30:12

switch over to the so-called Guerrilla

00:30:14

War, which they advertised for

00:30:17

many months before this

00:30:19

offensive,

00:30:20

to break Guerrilla resistance is

00:30:22

much easier than organized

00:30:24

resistance to the state, we must not

00:30:27

forget about what recommendations

00:30:30

these people gave and continue to give Now

00:30:32

What recommendations are they now giving,

00:30:35

move on to negotiations On what

00:30:37

conditions But on those conditions for

00:30:39

which there are what proposals were not given

00:30:41

forget about Crimea once for 25 years

00:30:44

once for 7 years forget about who

00:30:47

gives these recommendations? Who

00:30:51

gave the statement that

00:30:53

Ukraine will hold out? Only for three days Putin

00:30:56

Putin doesn’t say anything about it. Putin

00:30:58

was silent about it. The White House reported on this. The

00:31:01

American press wrote about it.

00:31:03

They were the ones who led this mass campaign

00:31:06

that Ukraine won’t hold out. for more than

00:31:08

three days, thereby exerting a

00:31:10

propaganda influence on the

00:31:12

Ukrainian leadership on Ukrainian

00:31:14

society. They didn’t know that Ukraine

00:31:16

would resist. They didn’t know

00:31:18

that Ukraine would fight, that it would not be in

00:31:21

three days, not in three weeks, not in three

00:31:23

months, they knew all this, but they led this

00:31:25

company,

00:31:27

therefore we have our position and your

00:31:30

position, it is not an easy position and therefore it is

00:31:32

necessary to clearly place emphasis. Yes,

00:31:37

today

00:31:38

the partners are giving assistance, it is important, this is

00:31:42

important assistance, this assistance helps

00:31:44

Ukraine resist direct aggression and

00:31:47

we appreciate this assistance and we are grateful for

00:31:50

this assistance for this assistance is

00:31:51

provided by the American people,

00:31:54

who overwhelmingly

00:31:55

support Ukraine, who vote to

00:31:59

support Ukraine, over 70 percent of

00:32:02

American citizens are in favor of all

00:32:05

possible support for Ukraine, from 30 to 40

00:32:07

percent of

00:32:09

Americans are even in favor of providing

00:32:12

direct military assistance with the participation of the

00:32:14

armed forces of the

00:32:15

United States of America directly on the side of

00:32:17

Ukraine, this is the opinion of the American people;

00:32:23

at the same time, the leadership of the

00:32:26

current leadership of the American

00:32:29

administration is pursuing a more complex

00:32:32

policy in which it does not provide the

00:32:37

necessary support for

00:32:39

Ukraine to win; it has been said many times in the

00:32:43

last

00:32:45

eight-seven months about the so

00:32:47

-called Lend-Lease program for

00:32:49

Ukraine a law that on May 9 was

00:32:53

forced to be signed by President Biden

00:32:56

because the Congress and the House

00:32:59

of Representatives and the Senate

00:33:01

voted unanimously for this law,

00:33:04

the question arises: How much was supplied under the law for the

00:33:07

lease of weapons of military equipment and

00:33:10

ammunition from May 9, the reason is

00:33:14

today through the middle of December The answer is simple,

00:33:18

nothing, zero, none tank, not a single

00:33:22

armored vehicle, not a single artillery

00:33:24

piece, not a single machine gun, not a single

00:33:26

cartridge, nothing in 10 months,

00:33:36

which in 1941 was signed by

00:33:40

President Roosevelt on

00:33:42

March 11, 1941, primarily to

00:33:47

help Great Britain, then in two and a

00:33:50

half months from March 11, 1941 to 1

00:33:54

June 1941, President Roosevelt and the

00:33:58

Roosevelt administration provided

00:34:01

Great Britain with military equipment and

00:34:04

ammunition worth $7 billion

00:34:06

since prices were

00:34:09

different then, in terms of today's prices

00:34:11

this amounted to $107.5 billion again

00:34:17

$107.5 billion in two and a half

00:34:20

months, that is an average of 40 billion

00:34:23

dollars a month at today's prices, let me

00:34:27

remind you once again since May 9, Ukraine

00:34:30

has not received anything, but Ukraine has received it

00:34:33

objectively speaking, we also need to know this through

00:34:35

four other channels, there are four

00:34:37

other channels through which Ukraine

00:34:39

receives military assistance, as long as we know

00:34:42

this figure is

00:34:43

12.7 billion dollars That is,

00:34:47

per month for 10 months This is

00:34:50

approximately 1.3 billion dollars per month

00:34:53

and now Compare

00:34:56

President Roosevel in 1941

00:35:01

provided military assistance to

00:35:02

Great Britain, which then alone

00:35:05

fought against the Wehrmacht

00:35:08

against the Reich against almost all of

00:35:11

occupied Europe Germany Italy and

00:35:14

its allies received 40 billion

00:35:17

dollars in military assistance per month.

00:35:19

Ukraine today, which alone is waging a

00:35:22

war against an enemy aggressor who

00:35:25

many times exceeds it in

00:35:28

economic, military, financial and

00:35:30

other potential, assistance in the amount of 1.3

00:35:33

billion dollars. How many times is this

00:35:35

less?

00:35:38

These figures show the attitude two

00:35:42

different administrations of the United States of

00:35:45

America by the way, lunch administrations

00:35:47

are democratic

00:35:48

The Democratic Roosevelt Administration

00:35:50

and the Democratic Biden Administration

00:35:53

what is the problem The problem is not even the

00:35:56

party is not the party of this

00:35:58

administration the demon of this administration the problem is the leaders of

00:36:01

this administration and for different purposes

00:36:04

What are these administrations one

00:36:06

Administration pursued in 41 and

00:36:08

the other administration is pursuing the twenty-

00:36:10

second year, it is

00:36:13

extremely difficult to

00:36:15

cover up here you are talking with numbers and facts

00:36:18

and Well, everything really is as it is,

00:36:20

but you understand that we are from Kiev, I’m probably

00:36:22

suggesting this to her Although our

00:36:25

diplomats are making every effort to

00:36:26

squeeze out this help, we simply cannot and

00:36:29

so it seems to me that all this is not

00:36:30

science fiction, but let me ask you this,

00:36:32

right? Well, of course,

00:36:35

we probably know, and Mr. Sullivan is

00:36:38

more of a dove of peace who

00:36:40

calls for negotiations and so on, but is it

00:36:42

fair to say that

00:36:44

today Ukraine is relying to

00:36:46

the aid of her allies, as you say,

00:36:48

she still makes the decision herself

00:36:50

because you know, and for example, we

00:36:52

still haven’t received any other types of

00:36:54

weapons that we asked for; they are not there, but

00:36:57

no, no, we will strike

00:36:59

strategic airfields with something of our own. to the rear of

00:37:02

the Russian Federation, this is an event that

00:37:04

happened last week and here we

00:37:06

could probably wait endlessly for the

00:37:08

Western

00:37:09

allies to help us with something and the Partners,

00:37:12

but they decided that they themselves and would it be

00:37:16

unfair to say now

00:37:18

that they would now impose peace on Ukraine or

00:37:21

their Peace Plan if not it’s impossible, then at

00:37:24

least it will become extremely difficult,

00:37:26

first of all, regarding Ukrainian

00:37:30

diplomats. Please tell me, have you

00:37:32

heard any of the Ukrainian

00:37:35

diplomats or the Ukrainian

00:37:37

leadership in general talk about the need for

00:37:39

linguistics?

00:37:42

You understand that we are not allowed to those places

00:37:44

where these topics are discussed but Ukraine

00:37:47

publicly said that, of course, it was very

00:37:49

happy that the Land Lease law was signed in America,

00:37:51

and I will remind you that in the

00:37:54

Western press there were materials where,

00:37:57

according to representatives of the White House,

00:37:59

they asked not to criticize Joe Biden for

00:38:01

little help to Ukraine, and there were such

00:38:04

signals, look here: then the specific

00:38:07

questions are what

00:38:10

representatives of Ukrainian diplomacy said,

00:38:12

representatives of the Ukrainian leadership will

00:38:14

clearly name at least those three

00:38:16

cases that I saw and heard that were

00:38:20

voiced in the public space on

00:38:22

May 9 of this year, President Zelensky

00:38:25

publicly thanked President Biden

00:38:28

for signing the law and expressed hope

00:38:31

that with the help of this instrument, Ukraine

00:38:33

will receive all the necessary weapons,

00:38:35

including offensive weapons, including

00:38:36

heavy weapons that will allow

00:38:38

the liberation of Ukrainian territories, this is

00:38:41

the position of the American President, the second

00:38:43

point of view that I heard is the

00:38:45

speech of representatives of Ukrainian

00:38:47

diplomacy, the Ambassador of Ukraine to the United

00:38:50

States of America in Washington, Oksana

00:38:52

Markarova, who told us we don’t need a

00:38:54

linguist, he’s harmful to the fox because this

00:38:58

Lindis is for money and therefore Ukraine sooner

00:39:01

or later has to pay for this

00:39:02

linguist and that’s why we don’t need it, so

00:39:04

let’s better what other things and there was a

00:39:07

third opinion not from the Ukrainian chairman of

00:39:10

Ukrainian diplomacy, but from the representative of the

00:39:12

Ukrainian defense sector, Minister of

00:39:13

Defense Rechnikov who said

00:39:15

about a month after

00:39:18

Ms. Makarov’s comment that our partners have

00:39:21

not yet decided which model they are ready to

00:39:24

use or will use when

00:39:27

supplying Ukraine.

00:39:30

Thus, we see three different points

00:39:34

of view that do not coincide. But this is all from

00:39:36

what at least came to me

00:39:38

I don’t see with my eyes or hear that in the public

00:39:41

space there would be like any, let

00:39:43

alone company, but at least individual

00:39:46

speeches that would remind

00:39:47

partners that the United States of

00:39:51

America, represented by the highest legislative

00:39:53

body of this country, the Congress of the United

00:39:55

States of America, adopted a law that

00:39:59

grants the President of the United

00:40:01

States of America unlimited rights to

00:40:04

supply weapons to Ukraine, and it must be

00:40:06

said frankly that the comments that

00:40:09

Ukraine should pay any money for this linguist

00:40:12

are not

00:40:14

true, apparently

00:40:18

Mrs. Markarova did not read the legal

00:40:21

limit in the Liza law there is a clear

00:40:23

provision that that two

00:40:25

provisions of the laws on

00:40:28

foreign military assistance and in the

00:40:31

law on the export of weapons are canceled.

00:40:33

According to the cancellation of those points that are indicated there, the

00:40:38

five-year period that was in effect for

00:40:40

Lend-Lease for Ukraine A is canceled This is the

00:40:43

first point and the second is canceled payments

00:40:46

for loans provided in Lis tapes in

00:40:50

rental of weapons,

00:40:53

military equipment and other defense

00:40:55

materials that are provided under

00:40:58

this law, respectively, today there are

00:41:01

no

00:41:02

requirements for Ukraine to

00:41:05

pay for the Len-list in

00:41:08

accordance with current American

00:41:10

legislation and, accordingly, the

00:41:12

provision of this assistance through the channel is

00:41:14

no different from the Grant,

00:41:18

I’m not even I’m talking about counting

00:41:21

money at the moment when

00:41:23

Ukrainian servicemen are dying, dying from the fact

00:41:26

that they do not have enough weapons from the fact that

00:41:29

they do not have enough ammunition, this

00:41:31

is simply blasphemous

00:41:34

When in 1941 weapons

00:41:39

were received by lens Great Britain France China

00:41:42

Soviet Union None of these countries Although

00:41:45

in the same Soviet Union

00:41:48

he sat in the Kremlin and a tyrant comparable to the current one did not

00:41:52

consider that we need to

00:41:54

pay something for this, so we will not receive anything

00:41:56

in war conditions, there is nothing more

00:41:58

important to receive

00:42:00

all the necessary weapons today

00:42:03

So these arguments are not

00:42:06

true even before I add

00:42:09

that the European Union has just now

00:42:11

decided to provide a large

00:42:13

package of economic assistance to Ukraine, but

00:42:16

this is not assistance, this is a loan, this is a loan for

00:42:19

which Ukraine will really have to

00:42:21

pay, that is, it turns out for

00:42:23

financial assistance for budgetary assistance

00:42:26

Ukrainian the leadership is ready to pay

00:42:28

interest and pay for it because it is a

00:42:31

loan and not a gift. And for military assistance

00:42:33

that saves the country and the armed

00:42:36

forces of Ukraine from destruction and

00:42:39

critical infrastructure and

00:42:41

civilians, we mean we will look at when

00:42:44

we should pay for it when we

00:42:46

should pay it These are completely

00:42:48

worthless arguments that have no

00:42:50

basis in any way, we are

00:42:54

moving away from this topic, you know that

00:42:57

Ukraine has become a certain

00:42:58

topic of speculation in domestic American

00:43:01

politics because it has just ended,

00:43:03

which took place there and what is

00:43:05

circulating in Ukraine, and now you

00:43:07

will correct the fact that Lend-Lease this

00:43:09

signed law is Plan B Plan B

00:43:12

when they will not be able to so easily and simply

00:43:14

agree on packages of

00:43:16

financial and military support for Ukraine

00:43:18

if American politicians are against it,

00:43:21

then Langleys will come into force. I don’t

00:43:24

know how fair it is

00:43:25

to assume that just from next

00:43:27

year it is quite possible he could

00:43:28

make money because you know now

00:43:31

there are congressmen politicians who

00:43:32

say first an audit, first a check of

00:43:35

what you need for Ukraine and only

00:43:38

then We return to the issue of

00:43:40

providing further assistance,

00:43:43

this is a false argument, this is

00:43:45

disinformation

00:43:47

thrown into the Ukrainian public

00:43:50

space for which there is no

00:43:51

basis I wanted I would like to remind those

00:43:54

who continue to believe in this

00:43:56

disinformation, just basic facts, the law

00:44:00

was introduced into the Congress of the United

00:44:03

States by Republican Senator

00:44:06

Root John Root and Stichas in

00:44:09

January of this year even before the start of

00:44:13

large-scale aggression against Ukraine,

00:44:15

and this bill was introduced not because there

00:44:19

would be support there

00:44:23

support for the aggression itself will not be provided yet,

00:44:25

this law was carried out in order to

00:44:27

provide the President of the United

00:44:29

States of America and his administration with

00:44:31

the opportunity to supply

00:44:33

weapons to Ukraine without restrictions before

00:44:36

the aggression begins before this was introduced on

00:44:40

January 19 of this year for this purpose

00:44:44

this bill was supported not only

00:44:48

the Republicans were supported by the Democrats,

00:44:50

I’ll say it again, it was supported by an incredible

00:44:52

number of senators and congressmen. There

00:44:59

was no such unanimous support for such a bill in the Congress of the United States of America for several

00:45:00

decades when it was adopted, and during the

00:45:04

course of all those who took part in its

00:45:07

development in promoting the adoption, they made

00:45:10

comments, no such comments about the

00:45:12

fact that this law will be applied

00:45:14

when any support supposedly disappears. This was

00:45:18

not the case. In any

00:45:20

case, on the contrary, they said this law is

00:45:22

being adopted in order to give Ukraine the

00:45:25

opportunity to provide heavy weapons; the

00:45:27

same Mr. Cornyn,

00:45:30

speaking at the end of April, said they need

00:45:34

planes; they need them. tanks are needed, armored vehicles are

00:45:36

needed, heavy artillery is needed in order to

00:45:39

break into the enemy’s defenses. That’s why

00:45:41

this very law was adopted, it had nothing to

00:45:43

do with the political

00:45:47

battles within the United States of

00:45:50

America itself. Well, if we talk about

00:45:51

political battles, it is necessary to keep in mind

00:45:53

that when

00:45:55

the leader of the Republican

00:45:57

minority The leader of the Republican

00:45:59

minority in the House of Representatives,

00:46:02

McCarthy in September of this year made

00:46:06

his Dimash, as a result of

00:46:07

which he wrested from the

00:46:11

administration promises to provide

00:46:13

military assistance to Ukraine in the next

00:46:17

fiscal year 23 fiscal year in the

00:46:20

amount of $ 50 billion. However, as you

00:46:23

know, the midterm elections

00:46:26

in November did not work out what is the reddest

00:46:29

wave when the Republicans would have received

00:46:31

both chambers, they received only one

00:46:33

chamber, the lower house, but did not receive

00:46:35

the Senate. What consequences did this have for

00:46:37

Ukraine? very simple; the

00:46:40

Biden administration immediately reduced this package,

00:46:43

which was agreed upon by the Republicans from

00:46:45

50 billion dollars to 37 billion.

00:46:48

Yes, these 37 billion dollars were

00:46:51

included in the draft budget that

00:46:53

was discussed and it is now being discussed there.

00:46:55

But now, nevertheless, the House

00:46:58

of Representatives is controlled by

00:47:00

the Republicans. What did they do when

00:47:02

discussing the budget of the draft budget of the

00:47:05

United States Department of Defense

00:47:07

for the year 23? The first decision was

00:47:10

to increase

00:47:11

financial military assistance to Ukraine who

00:47:15

this was done by the House of Representatives in

00:47:17

which the majority is now represented by

00:47:19

Republicans. Do you understand how

00:47:22

Ukrainian public opinion has

00:47:24

been misleading you for all these months?

00:47:26

How you have been misinformed about

00:47:29

what is happening in the United States of

00:47:31

America and who takes what position. Your

00:47:33

last point is what

00:47:35

he says. now So the law from

00:47:40

the people will work next year. Let's

00:47:43

see what was the law, the law came

00:47:47

into effect the moment it was signed by the

00:47:49

President of the United States of America on

00:47:51

May 9, and then everyone, including, by the

00:47:54

way, President Zelensky said that

00:47:55

now it’s just will this

00:47:57

weapon work it didn’t work that they began

00:48:00

to tell us they came up with a story

00:48:01

says it will go in 60 days in 60

00:48:04

days it doesn’t work for 60 days the

00:48:08

President of the United States of America

00:48:10

had to introduce an accelerated procedure

00:48:12

they should have earned it they didn’t

00:48:14

work because the President of the

00:48:15

United States didn’t do this and

00:48:17

60 days later, on July 8, 22,

00:48:22

nothing went according to this law, then they

00:48:25

came up with a new piece of information, this

00:48:27

information was invented by the same

00:48:29

disinformer

00:48:30

Major Shvets about whom we talked

00:48:32

earlier that this law will start

00:48:34

working on October 1, this is a lie because

00:48:37

the law began to work on May 1, May 9

00:48:40

came October 1 Well, it started

00:48:42

working Of course not, now you have

00:48:45

come up with new misinformation that this

00:48:47

law will begin to work

00:48:48

next year,

00:48:53

this law will stop working, this law was

00:48:57

adopted by us for a very specific period of

00:48:59

time, this is in the text of the law from May 9, 22

00:49:03

to September 30, 23 years have now

00:49:07

passed from May 9 to today

00:49:11

How many months have passed? 7 months I

00:49:13

read correctly seven months left

00:49:17

nine months a little more than 9 months Until the

00:49:21

end of

00:49:22

this law, what is the meaning of the

00:49:26

information here? We started our conversation with

00:49:28

misinformation who works for who

00:49:31

all this disinformation that

00:49:33

was carried out during this year was

00:49:35

aimed at lulling the attention of the

00:49:37

Ukrainian public and the Ukrainian

00:49:40

leadership and the diplomatic military

00:49:43

political from the most important instrument

00:49:45

that can provide assistance to

00:49:48

Ukraine in the UN story today it will not

00:49:50

work it will be in 60 days it will be

00:49:52

work on October 1, he will work

00:49:54

next year so that they do not

00:49:56

pay attention to this, wait for what on

00:49:58

September 30, 23 when

00:50:01

this law expires so

00:50:04

that Ukraine does not receive the much-

00:50:06

needed weapons necessary to

00:50:08

liberate the country and prevent the death of both

00:50:12

military and civilians persons in

00:50:15

order to bring victory to Ukraine, here is a

00:50:17

direct example of how this

00:50:20

information works. You must keep this in mind and

00:50:22

you yourself must, not only with our

00:50:25

help, those who are trying, but also

00:50:28

to identify these information

00:50:30

companies that are directed against you,

00:50:33

Larionov has literally a couple of minutes

00:50:35

left so then to finish off this topic,

00:50:37

I just when you speak,

00:50:40

the arguments I hear are accepted, but

00:50:42

look, Harry Tabakh was our guest at one time,

00:50:45

but he is an American citizen and he

00:50:48

also talks about the land list, but at the

00:50:51

same time he says I am an American citizen I

00:50:52

supported Lis and I go to lobbyists and

00:50:56

demand that Ukraine earn money. I am

00:50:59

Ukrainian, I have a Ukrainian passport. David

00:51:01

against Americans, I can’t in any way

00:51:03

our politics. I’m sure that they, too, to put it

00:51:06

mildly, are on the ropes

00:51:07

because they are,

00:51:09

and so we are already scholz of this. Macron there are

00:51:13

not many countries that were ready to

00:51:16

immediately support us, but if we take

00:51:19

all your argumentation, everything that you are

00:51:21

saying now, do you think that we can

00:51:24

somehow change the policy of the United

00:51:27

States? The White House says: We all know,

00:51:29

we understand what you want, you want to

00:51:31

reach September You want Osta without

00:51:34

Lend-Lease Will this really be of any

00:51:36

help? That is, I don’t quite understand how to

00:51:39

correctly use the tools that you give,

00:51:44

look at the

00:51:46

specific tools, of course not you, not the

00:51:50

vast majority of those who

00:51:52

listen to you and watch cannot

00:51:53

use them because they are not

00:51:54

participate in these diplomatic

00:51:56

firefights, it’s clear that we are this

00:51:58

tool and several

00:52:00

people use this tool, the Ukrainian leadership in the

00:52:02

political leadership, the diplomatic

00:52:04

leadership, the military leadership. They conduct these

00:52:06

negotiations, but

00:52:08

Ukrainian society still has

00:52:10

enormous opportunities, opportunities

00:52:13

that perhaps no

00:52:15

other society has today. Because

00:52:17

because it Ukraine because Ukraine and the

00:52:20

people still have the right to express

00:52:23

their point of view and no one can take away this right of the

00:52:26

Ukrainian people.

00:52:28

Therefore, it is important that

00:52:31

the words “we don’t want to receive” were not heard in the public opinion of Ukraine.

00:52:36

Because if we speak, but they

00:52:39

sound, he says because he is dear

00:52:40

because we have to pay for it because

00:52:42

we don’t need the

00:52:43

same partners then these same

00:52:47

Americans Partner Wait, this is not we don’t

00:52:49

want to give this you don’t want to

00:52:51

receive then the position conclude no we

00:52:54

want to receive moreover, we need this

00:52:57

moreover, you have adopted a law the

00:53:01

entire Congress voted for this law; the

00:53:03

entire Senate voted for this law; this law is

00:53:06

supported by the vast

00:53:09

majority of the American people, and the

00:53:11

entire American people, both Republicans

00:53:15

and Democrats, regardless of their

00:53:17

political affiliation, we are all in

00:53:19

favor of one, when will supplies be

00:53:23

delivered, when will they be delivered, when

00:53:26

you should not

00:53:29

It may be clear that you are in a

00:53:32

difficult situation, but it is not you who should

00:53:34

talk about it, and now we will erect

00:53:35

monuments to those people who deny

00:53:38

you weapons. No, you must respectfully

00:53:41

As he speaks respectably without violating the

00:53:45

rules of good manners and diplomacy, but

00:53:47

speak firmly You have this law You

00:53:51

promised you said by the way the

00:53:53

press list of the Pentagon Department of Defense on

00:53:55

May 9 says Now the

00:53:57

United States will supply

00:53:59

offensive weapons heavy weapons to

00:54:01

Ukraine this is not someone said this is a

00:54:04

press release from the Department of Defense of the

00:54:06

United States of America refer to

00:54:08

these documents refer to the law

00:54:10

refer to speech by

00:54:13

congressional senators and representatives of the administration of the

00:54:15

United States of America You have

00:54:17

the tools, we need these weapons This is

00:54:20

your position Don’t offend them, don’t

00:54:23

insult them, don’t call them

00:54:25

bad words But you need to demand

00:54:27

what you need This is what you need,

00:54:30

these are not toys, this is the life of your people

00:54:33

thousands and thousands of your fellow citizens, our

00:54:37

friends, and this is a guarantee of the liberation

00:54:42

of Ukraine, this is a guarantee that the aggressor and

00:54:46

criminal will sooner or later be punished

00:54:49

and sooner or later all the demands

00:54:51

that we spoke to you at

00:54:53

the beginning will be implemented. Ukraine

00:54:55

will restore its territorial

00:54:57

integrity and those captured

00:55:00

will return. on the territory of Ukraine,

00:55:02

criminals will be punished with the help of an

00:55:05

international tribunal; the aggressor

00:55:07

will pay reparations and

00:55:10

appropriate international guarantees will be accepted

00:55:12

that no new aggression will ever be committed on Russian territory,

00:55:15

not

00:55:17

against Ukraine, not against any

00:55:19

other state.

00:55:21

Yes, here I subscribe, of course, in this

00:55:23

regard to each in your words, Mr.

00:55:25

Larionov, I thank you for

00:55:27

taking part in our stream; in our

00:55:30

conversation, it didn’t start easily, but I

00:55:33

hope that now we can say

00:55:34

that it ended easily. Thank you very much

00:55:36

for sharing your view with us.

00:55:38

And I really want yours to be there in America

00:55:42

the words were heard, it would be important and

00:55:44

I would really like for you and me to

00:55:45

already state the fact that Lend-Lease

00:55:47

has started working and it would be better if we summed up its

00:55:50

results than talking about the fact that for now it is

00:55:52

Well, in such a dead state Thank you

00:55:55

very much,

00:55:58

friends, friends visiting us today buf

00:56:01

Andrei Illarionov senior science

00:56:04

poor centers politics Washington I'm in

00:56:08

decline Vasya that

00:56:10

we are already waiting for your galley to the factories

00:56:12

vector and we are here in Ukraine Although in

00:56:16

fact Krim's law went to the topic in terms of

00:56:19

We are great

00:56:21

but we know the tower about discussions

00:56:25

how can I

00:56:26

Russia my everyday life I doubt that

00:56:30

today we had to know who I saved Stream

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was inspired And what does it mean to drink

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How can I save a frame from a video "💥 ІЛЛАРІОНОВ | Залужний дав ЛЯПАСА путіну, росія НАСПРАВДІ вже втратила більше 100 тисяч військових"?

This feature is available in the UDL Helper extension. Make sure that "Show the video snapshot button" is checked in the settings. A camera icon should appear in the lower right corner of the player to the left of the "Settings" icon. When you click on it, the current frame from the video will be saved to your computer in JPEG format.

What's the price of all this stuff?

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