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still on the road 2023 controversial

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melee 2 list everyone say hi YouTube hi

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so melee is definitely one of the games

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of all time but it's been through many

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iterations out of all the games that

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ever existed melee is definitely one of

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them but I think with the Advent of

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ranked every character is now being

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pushed to the Limit more than ever

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before more than ever before so I

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present to you the 2023 melee tier list

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uh let's start with the obvious there is

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a there is a few tiers in this game but

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we're going to call them top high mid

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middle Low Bottom and La Mau I'm pretty

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sure with six tiers it covers everyone

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ah this determines basically if you were

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to use if you're the you know top tier

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player top 20 in the world and using

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this character to its absolute best

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ability where would you put it uh it's

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right there okay all right uh there's

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some Givens there's some Givens that are

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obvious first given and it's gonna be at

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the best character in the game is you

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guessed it Fox McLeod and again I know a

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lot of you a lot of people watching this

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are going to be people who are familiar

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with the game I know some viewers here

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as well who have never played it so I'll

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make a brief has most options of any

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character incredibly fast one frame

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shine which leads into combos uh

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multiple ways to recover extremely

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powerful kill moves finishers up Smash

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Up air very fast lead options incredible

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good let's play out of Shield off

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everything that you need it's there and

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fox arguably beats every single

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character in this game or goes even with

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them I no longer think Marth beats Fox I

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think it's actually even anyway uh he's

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number one the second best character in

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the game would be North Marth even

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though these two probably go even best

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range in the game best grab range

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recovery Mix-Ups Tipper is actually

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insane uh can reach well above and well

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below him down till up tilt grabs combos

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zero deaths uh pivot tippers which are

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now a new thing as well too uh dancing

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blade which leads to up tilts it can

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kill you in any direction

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um one of the best way dashes in the

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game his Dash back is just pretty much

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unbeatable uh the down air Spike which

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you can't recover from everything that

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you need in a character's kit he has and

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he's there and he's present obviously

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top two follow that up with the third

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best card in the game which is Falco

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Falco while slightly worse than these

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two amazing Laser Play best product on

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the game which is a short hop laser

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basically it plays the game for you in

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so many ways again insane shine which

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leads you up best double jump in the

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game best spike in the game one of the

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best out of Shield plays in the game

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um incredible back here incredible down

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tilt really good jab uh insane up tilt

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uh insanely strong forward smash very

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fast strong down smash uh and uh yeah

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best Shield pressure in the game too and

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a side B which is recovery is his

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recovery is supposed to not be as good

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as Fox because it's shorter in both

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directions but as cyber's actually

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faster and upbeat actually kills you

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upwards if you hit but so it's kind of

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there really no no no no overly losing

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matchups maybe maybe Marth beats him uh

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Fox [ __ ] goes even to me till the end of

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days maybe Marth beats him but if that's

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like people discuss it all the time too

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anyway very very good yeah that's what

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it is the fourth best character in Super

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Smash Brothers Melee

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is not buff because it's chic chic is

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the fourth best character in this game

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I'm happy that someone finally proved

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they can win a tournament with it I

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honestly Sheik is the first character

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where you start getting into the

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category of lopsided matchups but if I'm

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being honest Chic puff is not nearly as

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lopsided as they make it seem puff Falco

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I think Falco wins like slightly like

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one percent but it's very close Chic

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um obviously loses to Fox and Falco but

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beats Marth

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um loses to Puff but only slightly I

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think it's that crazy and invalidates a

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lot of other characters and validates

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half the entire game it does very well

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against Falcon does very well against a

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lot of people does lose to Isis does

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lose to Isis which is uh one of the

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losses like I said below the top three

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it's where you stop getting right there

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too but she doesn't suffer the issue

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that puff has and you know what Puff's

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issue is you want to know why the sole

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reason Chic is above puff more than

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anything

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fox fox is the best card in the game

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he's the most commonly used car in the

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game he's a character that dominates The

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Meta he's in every single region every

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single scene every single Branch every

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single ranked local Regional National

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whatever you want to call it Fox is

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present there and Fox's Puffs Force

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matchup whereas Chic while losing the

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fox can still contest Sheik does better

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against Fox and puff does and if you

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disagree you are incorrect and stupid

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but puff unsurprisingly uh is the fifth

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best card in the game also in top tier

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and uh yeah uh Jigglypuff my main uh you

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know she's got a lot of things in this

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game that are uh that she does the best

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arguably the second best downbeat in the

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game after Fox shine with rest one hit

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KO best recovery five jumps best aerial

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drift best back air in the game

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um insane setups you can land rests as

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well too the best let's play sunless

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best let's play you can do you can play

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defensively as you like you can dominate

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the pace of a game at least you're not

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as long as you're not playing against

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Fox which is a little bit different too

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um uh so I think these top five is

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really not that controversial especially

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given the results in 2023 and 2022.

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um now that more people are familiar

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with the matchups I think this is pretty

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fair

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um and when it comes to the top tiers I

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do believe this is where I rounded out

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unless of course you let me cook a

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little bit because I think there might

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be one more top tier in this game played

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at the top level that it isn't as good

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as these five characters but I've seen

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enough the only issue is there needs to

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be more representation the sixth best

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character in this game and not to make

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everyone crazy is Yoshi and I only

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believe there's one player there's only

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one player that has figured it out but

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if we're talking the player the

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character played at its absolute level

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it's really not that controversial Yoshi

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won three super Majors last year do you

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see what he did to Mango's Fox to my

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puff to Zayn's Marth to jamuk Chic did

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you see what happened when played

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perfect perfectly of course of course

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yes better than Falcon and Peach yes

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until amster leveled up the way he did I

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would have never said this but now I've

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seen the light I'm letting you know

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there's only one guy doing it and if

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you're talking about oh there's not

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enough reps apart from two cent getting

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top Edge Genesis I was the only [ __ ]

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doing with puff for a long ass time and

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you guys put you guys want to put puff

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number one in the game when it was just

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me doing it so give me a [ __ ] break

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with that all right right after Yoshi we

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put captain and Falcon again I am at

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least putting it one tier below I'm

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putting it one tier below uh Captain

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Falcon obviously absolute gorilla the

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character insane kill potential fastest

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run speed in the game and insanely fast

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uh Ariel's dare some of the best Aerials

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in the game

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um best follow-ups tech chasing you know

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it's definitely a high skill ceiling to

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what you got to do and you need to have

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faster I can come sure to play it but

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wizzy was one knee away from being

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number one in the world ranked in the

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summer until he caught my backyard in

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his face so

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um after Falcon uh also in high tier I

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believe it's fair here to put Peach of

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course Armada proved the absolute with

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this country could do la does it as well

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definitely has some lopsided matchups

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against puff Fox a good Fox can bully

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the [ __ ] out of peach but a peach can

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also bully Fox if you play it really

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really well

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um but it's tough because there's

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something there's certain things you

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have to go up and doing so but the Reps

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have done really really well too

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um and I also do think uh peach peach is

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definitely been shown to been able to

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win Majors only thing with peach similar

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to Chic is the puff problem very

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technical character you gotta it she's

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super easy to pick up in fact when

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there's beginner so the game when just

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say pick Peach and down Smash and figure

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it out and then you go along as you do

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it but super high skill setting for what

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it is I think Peach there is pretty fair

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High tier is not done yet though

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um I used to not have this character

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here but thanks to a s thanks to a

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slippery slithering man uh we have

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learned now that you don't really need a

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game breaking Tech to still have this

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character be absolutely phenomenal and

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in height here that's going to be Ice

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Climbers thanks to slug slug there's

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also been lunar dusk

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um and some other ICS that have really

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been doing well uh but to me thanks to

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handoffs and showing you know what the

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character can do when you really put in

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the time you get a grab you should get a

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kill slug was able to defeat Zayn at

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Double Down with No wobbling barely any

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grabs showing that the character's

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neutral is incredibly good one of the

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fastest way Dash in the game is

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literally two small ganondorfs hitting

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you damage output insanely ridiculous

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recovery can be really good mixing up

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with up B and side B

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um and I do think that uh I I do think

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that even a good Sopo can do pretty well

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so you still have like a second chance

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to do it and slug beating left in it

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yeah slug being left at Main stage I

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sees Fox is becoming harder and harder

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because Fox literally cannot touch the

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ground there used to be a thing where

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it's like Fox invalidates ices with

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shine you separate them but it's it's

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not that easy anymore it's not that easy

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I think that rounds out the high tier

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and now we can hop to the middle tiers

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um the difference between a middle tier

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and high tier six sandwiches and top 64

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of Genesis what was the highest placing

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one

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super big coat yes I know survey Cody

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but the upsets do happen it happened

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once once name me another good Samus

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result another good a Samus that beats

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that beat a top 10 player 33rd good

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middle tier Samus thank you Samus is

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there very very good

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um but you know I'm not in this thing

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very very good but has a lot of trickle

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charge shot has a lot of tricks that can

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make it very very good hard to use top

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level insanely good down smash I will

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say that this character can match up

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check a lot of people more than anything

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and I think when it comes to actually

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ranked and unranked uh it's getting to

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the point where they're learning how to

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deal these characters too she does have

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one of the best recoveries in the game

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with bomb stalling with the tether with

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up B great out of Shield option can be

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very very defensive and I think actually

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this character has still not reached its

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Max potential then right after Samus you

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have Pikachu so you could you could

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switch the order of Pikachu and Samus

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been what it is Pikachu does have some

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reps ax of course being the biggest rep

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hasn't had quite the massive success he

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did back then but still managed to make

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a top ten and you know I kind of do want

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to flip them actually yeah yeah I'm

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sorry I I changed my mind I I changed my

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mind I was thinking about play since

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last year I think about matchups

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um ax Tyler Swift

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um among others it's not what no no it's

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it makes sense [ __ ] Pikachu makes top

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eights way more common Ralph than Samus

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way more common Samus extender that's

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your reason for Samus being my Pikachu

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guys Pikachu can beat foxes doesn't beat

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but can beat foxes can beat Mars

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arguably beats Marth Falco not Chic not

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puff but can deal with Yoshi Peach

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Falcon and the results prove it as well

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too and then on the box the character

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gets unlocked even more insanely fast

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recoveries and at the same time time I

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will think that Pikachu over time will

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only get better and better and better

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because people are going to deal with

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speed in better ways speed is super

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important offstage game it insanely good

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up smash strongest in the game threat to

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any character when played correctly

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after Samus also in the middle tier

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there's a character that I think still

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has not been fully unlocked okay A a

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character that I think truly truly truly

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um could go even further than what

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they're currently at it just it just the

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Reps it's like we we didn't consider

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Yoshi until we had an arm so this

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character needs an amster this character

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needs someone took really [ __ ] crack

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through and understand it

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um and I actually think that character

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is Luigi followed directly by Dr Mario

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the two plumbers are next to each other

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on the tier list it's insanely close

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friends especially I think friends with

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Dr Mario has proven exactly what it can

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do so good just not quite at the height

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of Samus or Pikachu whereas Luigi even

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though his recovery gets snuffed a lot

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some of the more recently great Luigi's

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there was a player named um Abate who

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really made me think Luigi was better

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than Pikachu at his Peak there hasn't

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quite been an Abate yet since that Abate

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was a lot of people considered the

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greatest Luigi play Walter I think he is

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the greatest Luigi player of all time

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fifth place at Big House five

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absolutely insane someone can do it

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someone can figure it out yeah he took

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fifth at Big House five players like mad

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Tyro

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um sidward players like um there's just

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ones that come to mind when I play them

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online where I'm just like this

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character is [ __ ] insane so uh yeah

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you guys could all name some Luigi's in

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the back and in your mind that have been

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you know making people scared in the

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region adding Mexico of course I I do

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think the kid can be pushed even more

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and I have him edged over Dr Mario from

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the sheer amount that more Luigi's have

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been present uh regard and when it comes

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to the middle tier for characters that

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are as good as Pikachu right as good as

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Pikachu's Samus Luigi duck not that

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level but in the same tier so okay here

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here's here's how I draw the line here

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pretend Summit had a low tier tournament

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right pretend someone said hey we're

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gonna invite all the top players they

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can only use low tiers so here's the

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question which characters would be

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allowed and which characters would not

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peel right Mewtwo would be allowed

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because we all know Mewtwo colloquially

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as a low tier same as Roy same as link

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but you know he wouldn't allow I

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wouldn't allow Ganondorf and I wouldn't

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allow DK if you ask me this this to me

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this is now the hardest part of the tier

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list right here because defining a

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character as low tier is tricky

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um and if

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this line right here is a thick line but

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then if I put if I was to put gandorf

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here that also insinuates that gandorf

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is in the same tears Pikachu which I

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just I can't do that so we're gonna do

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this we're gonna make a tier called

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ganondeer I I truly honestly do believe

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this truly and there's three characters

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in gandorf too it's kind of funny and

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I'll explain in a second let me cook all

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right okay let me cook God holy [ __ ]

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well the stove is on this I'm burning

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the sauce chill

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thank you a new tier just dropped tell

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your friends buckle up at scanter and

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this tier exists three characters that

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are truly the line between viable and

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not viable in fact to this day we can't

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decide if these characters are viable or

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not it's just a weird thing you can't

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call middle tier but you can't call them

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low tiers either so they're [ __ ] here

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okay so this list begins with DK DK is

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in limbo at all times there are so many

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new DK players that that make upsets you

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have you have you have Wrangler nearly

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three owing lesson and then just getting

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eviscerated by a Chic reminding us why

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he's not a Bible character you see what

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I mean that's like a perfect example you

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have a keyer getting top eight but also

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comedy Mars it's there's always an if

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it's always a stipulation I think

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putting him in this list is very very

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fair

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um you've got also in this tier

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Ganondorf to No One surprise he's

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captain talking with everything shittier

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slower but more powerful has a really

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really good up air huge but slow hitbox

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behind it

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um can kill most characters earlier than

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anyone else in the game uh and he match

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up checks a lot of people but if you

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know what you're doing I do think like

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literally like I do think this is

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literally like Puff's best matchup of

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all these characters I think puff Ganon

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is like 80 20. if you know what you're

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doing like I I just there's just nothing

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there's nothing you can do if puff lands

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two upbears below you the game's over

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that's it he's gigantic he's floating he

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can get up air six times in a row then

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bare wall of pain with the slowest

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recovery it's just but

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Ganondorf Marth kind of cool Ganondorf

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versus some of these characters kind of

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neat so yeah all right so

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um results tier list man it's almost as

00:17:17

if results emulate The Meta of a

00:17:20

character currently wow what a [ __ ]

00:17:22

concept Jesus chat of course he went up

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of course you look at tournaments why

00:17:29

the [ __ ] wouldn't you of course that's

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like trying to find out what the most

00:17:34

viewed twitch channels are on Twitch and

00:17:37

ignoring the viewership numbers it makes

00:17:41

no [ __ ] sense like what are you of

00:17:44

course what else would you look at how

00:17:47

good they make you feel how bad you are

00:17:49

at the match-up what some guys said the

00:17:51

matchups are shut the [ __ ] up thank you

00:17:54

I think this list is very good so far

00:17:56

okay so there's at least one more rep in

00:18:00

the gandorf too I do think Mario is one

00:18:02

of those reps he's the worst doc but

00:18:04

clearly has some sauce very good forward

00:18:06

smash aerial Mobility Cape grab combos

00:18:10

he's kind of seen what scorp with mango

00:18:13

can do when played perfectly gotta put

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Mario there Mario is there because he's

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not a low tier character I can't call

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him low tier character

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um and I think aklow one RR with link

00:18:23

yeah Aqua didn't play Fox at all he

00:18:25

didn't play the best character in the

00:18:28

[ __ ] game at all however this is

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where I draw the line is Link in

00:18:33

ganenteer or is link still a low tier I

00:18:37

think I think I think we might need a

00:18:43

we might need a link tier I'm not going

00:18:45

to do that it's not a linked here with

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Mario inside of it

00:18:52

the link Discord is here oh [ __ ] okay

00:18:56

let me call the line the line is vague

00:18:58

enough I have a link above Mario and I

00:19:00

have Mario above young Link but I think

00:19:02

Young link is still like a low tier

00:19:03

that's the problem yeah I don't it's

00:19:05

hard for me to consider link or Mario

00:19:07

low tier but there is rocket who is a

00:19:10

top 100 young Link but that's that's it

00:19:12

I think aklow's accomplishments with

00:19:15

link as a secondary far out Shadow

00:19:17

Rockets main as young that makes sense

00:19:20

so current is what I have and by the way

00:19:22

there's also other people who cook with

00:19:24

link online it's mainly online but if

00:19:27

they had a chance to go to more

00:19:28

tournaments guys like tpn guys like

00:19:31

honeybee uh if they could do it it would

00:19:33

really impress people anyways I think

00:19:36

this is fair or honey bear honey bear

00:19:37

okay press one if you're still alive

00:19:39

you're still breathing we're still okay

00:19:41

we have you haven't you haven't called a

00:19:43

lawsuit yet okay I'm trying I'm trying

00:19:45

my best here let's finish the list also

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in low tier right after young Link or

00:19:50

above young Link I forgot about the only

00:19:52

because not the best loads here there's

00:19:54

two characters in front of him above

00:19:55

young Link in low tier and the best slow

00:19:57

tier character in the game clearly is

00:20:00

Roy clearly that's thanks to the results

00:20:02

of don't test me showing exactly what

00:20:05

this character is capable of doing I

00:20:07

used to have Roy lower I am still to

00:20:10

this day in awe I didn't realize what

00:20:13

you could do I didn't realize how good

00:20:16

of a character well he's not good of a

00:20:19

character but how good is grab ranges

00:20:21

how good is down till is and the Combos

00:20:24

and juggles and sequences you can do

00:20:25

with this character uh it's very it's

00:20:28

very surprising one of the strongest

00:20:30

forwards matches in the game one of the

00:20:31

best down tilts one of the best grab

00:20:33

ranges one of the best really good wave

00:20:35

Dash too he's fast he's a fast Faller

00:20:37

Marth with a with a backwards noodle

00:20:40

sword and you have probably no surprise

00:20:43

when I tell you that right above right

00:20:46

before Roy right now is actually going

00:20:50

to be Mewtwo so what does has been

00:20:53

showing exactly what this character can

00:20:55

do place it on the top of the European

00:20:57

leaderboard and beating very very top

00:21:00

professional characters taught up

00:21:01

players Taj as well beating you Marth

00:21:04

reminding us that the character still

00:21:06

does have good matchup checks across the

00:21:08

board not saying he beats the top tiers

00:21:10

by any means but Mewtwo has just enough

00:21:13

uh like slipperiness you know sudden

00:21:16

kill power with Forward Air

00:21:19

um Aerials like Nair oh he lost a few

00:21:21

more never mind but he did scoop into

00:21:23

the stages three times it was kind of

00:21:24

[ __ ] point is in Europe we assume we

00:21:26

can do I think Lefton is being Professor

00:21:28

Pro before and and you have to know what

00:21:30

you're doing there but he's still I

00:21:32

think he's safely in low tier he beat

00:21:34

Mango's dog chat shut the [ __ ] up

00:21:36

YouTube still belongs uh right there in

00:21:40

low tier I think it's safe as well you

00:21:43

got young Link there too to young Link

00:21:45

to me what Young links rocket is

00:21:47

officially top 100 now with young Link I

00:21:49

think uh rocket is the lowest tier main

00:21:53

to make top 100 correct if I'm wrong I

00:21:56

believe so so I think with with that

00:21:58

alone you know there's there's an

00:21:59

argument there as well too basically the

00:22:02

closest character to young Link is game

00:22:04

watch you can you can put these in the

00:22:05

order that you feel is better you did

00:22:07

have some really really good game and

00:22:10

watch reps that have existed but I don't

00:22:12

think the game Watch reps have impressed

00:22:15

me as much as you know what Roy Mewtwo

00:22:19

prove they can do in the right hands

00:22:22

you've had a bunch of top players like

00:22:23

like IBD don't play game and watch the

00:22:25

thing is like every top player has

00:22:27

dabbled in these low tiers right I have

00:22:29

mango has Cody left and Zane plop you

00:22:33

know they've all we've all dabbled in

00:22:34

low tiers and the reason you hear about

00:22:36

Zayn's Roy baton and leffen's Mewtwo a

00:22:39

ton is because they were able to beat

00:22:42

the most people and impress the most

00:22:43

people in doing so I just fundamentally

00:22:46

I think that uh like Mario just has more

00:22:51

potential in these characters below just

00:22:54

in terms of how he's designed but I

00:22:56

could see Mario easily just being

00:22:58

literally here in less than a year Mario

00:23:01

I'm torn on I never thought Mario was

00:23:04

great like at all uh it's just we just

00:23:07

colloquially don't consider him a low

00:23:10

tier and we haven't for a while is he

00:23:11

just by design has more in his toolkit

00:23:14

than a Roy or me too uh young Link is a

00:23:17

great uh carpet character of course

00:23:19

Armada used it against me to be puff

00:23:22

specifically ax has done some pretty

00:23:24

good stuff he's very fast though I think

00:23:26

young Link and Luigi are in the same

00:23:28

category where they need a good rep the

00:23:32

line is exactly what it stands for it's

00:23:34

a character that you can't decide if

00:23:36

they're I mean DK Ganondorf link and

00:23:38

Mario no one can decide if they're

00:23:40

viable which makes it really fun so

00:23:42

that's low tier and I think think that

00:23:45

rounds out the low tier and I think now

00:23:47

we only have two tiers left we have

00:23:49

bottom and laughing my ass off actually

00:23:51

I'm going to change the kick though okay

00:23:53

um so here we go the best character in

00:23:56

the bottom tier I think is Zelda I think

00:24:00

Zelda is better than this might sound

00:24:02

weird I just think Zelda's back here and

00:24:04

Forward Air and I guess down smash alone

00:24:07

are so insane I mean so [ __ ] insane

00:24:12

it's a faster knee

00:24:14

um and of course we're this is Zelda in

00:24:17

a vacuum okay although it's on like Chic

00:24:19

uses all the recovery I I always

00:24:22

considered this as a Zelda in a vacuum

00:24:23

if you don't use

00:24:24

um recovery goes really far neutral B is

00:24:27

a kind of like good get off me tool fair

00:24:29

and bear kills so early

00:24:31

um and we've seen every top player just

00:24:34

get sunned by her Pharaoh bear it's in

00:24:37

fact those moves are so good it those

00:24:39

moves alone just put her better than

00:24:41

this Ness Ness has the distinction of of

00:24:44

just being better than the characters

00:24:45

above below below him and being far far

00:24:49

worse than anyone above him I love

00:24:50

playing this I actually know a lot about

00:24:52

Ness he has some cool glitches he has a

00:24:54

cool Nair backers pretty strong dare

00:24:57

hits hard Ford are very strong Ford air

00:24:59

is very spamble PK Fire is complete

00:25:02

trash down be as trash his recovery

00:25:05

trash

00:25:07

um his up air phenomenal back to really

00:25:09

really strong again recovery [ __ ]

00:25:12

trash trash recovery has to upbeat aim

00:25:16

and prey but very easy to do it or if he

00:25:18

had a better recovery he could be bumped

00:25:19

up so high but it's just there's a

00:25:21

reason no one plays him okay yoyo setups

00:25:23

are really good too but they're very to

00:25:24

it and double jump canceling it's good

00:25:26

but his range is so small also one of

00:25:28

the shortest grab rings in the whole

00:25:30

game if this grab one's better anyway

00:25:32

then you got Pichu lightest character in

00:25:34

the game tied for the last character in

00:25:36

the game with puff and Kirby very good

00:25:39

Nair very fast but my God this

00:25:41

character's range is abysmal strip worse

00:25:44

recovery than Pikachu there's very few

00:25:47

reasons to not use this Pikachu instead

00:25:49

of Pichu the character hurts themselves

00:25:52

for some weird reason so you can just

00:25:55

can't beat you and then just wait for

00:25:57

wait for peaches damage to rack up it's

00:25:59

just funny it's stupid it's really dumb

00:26:02

considering Fox up throw up air can kill

00:26:04

Pichu at like 40 or like like 45 like

00:26:08

it's already insult to injury that the

00:26:10

character hurts themselves but I have

00:26:12

seen I do think a character has some

00:26:13

potential I do think in the right hands

00:26:15

the character can be pushed at the most

00:26:16

to the top of bottom above nest and

00:26:18

Zelda because you can do some stuff with

00:26:19

fair to up smash you can do some stuff

00:26:21

with with uh with the Tilt some off

00:26:23

stage play all right um and then the

00:26:25

most uh jarring up into the tier list

00:26:28

I'll say is the Kirby is the lowest

00:26:30

character in bottom tier and Bowser is

00:26:34

actually for the first time in a tear by

00:26:37

himself I have I have toiled with this

00:26:41

for so long Bowser is

00:26:44

such dog [ __ ] I I don't what were they

00:26:48

thinking yeah up we had a shield cool

00:26:50

then what you get shine twice you're

00:26:52

dead longest [ __ ] a jump squat what

00:26:56

four smash oh yeah that comes out fast

00:26:58

his throws they're not even kill throws

00:27:01

there's so many things bad about this

00:27:04

character can he take games or sets off

00:27:07

people and locals yeah down throat

00:27:10

doesn't even work oh I'll say the upbeat

00:27:14

of shield and the Gap attack are some of

00:27:16

the best in the game I will say that

00:27:18

um and I will say if you open up melee

00:27:20

right now and you grab the ledge and

00:27:22

click jump he has an nil on YouTube

00:27:24

story if this game was only a story if

00:27:28

it's Bowser only on Yoshi's he goes here

00:27:30

also that but FD exists so as it stands

00:27:34

also do you like how nearly perfectly

00:27:37

even the tears are apart from Keck W

00:27:39

just saying it's pretty balanced

00:27:41

um almost four characters in every tier

00:27:43

and that's is where I do think the meta

00:27:46

stands in 2023 Yoshi of course having

00:27:49

the biggest rise Bowser is still the

00:27:51

worst but I feel like he's he's uh in

00:27:53

his own tier and

00:27:55

um I put Bowser in the bottom tier I

00:27:58

mean this that is symmetrical oh that is

00:28:01

pretty satisfying that is pretty

00:28:02

satisfying but he sucks

00:28:07

everyone say bye you

00:28:09

had a good old fun time uh uh and stay

00:28:12

tuned because remember how I said that

00:28:15

it was the final tier list on my YouTube

00:28:17

for ultimate that was a lie so stay

00:28:19

tuned

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