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[music]00:00:12
Hello, dear allies,00:00:15
the program is being broadcast live. I have something to say.00:00:17
My name is Svetlana Ladina. On June 28,00:00:22
1923, in the village of Tarakanova, Okhansky00:00:25
district, Perm province, two twin boys were00:00:29
born to the peasant family of Vasily and Anna Chazov. The00:00:34
babies were baptized the next day in the00:00:37
local Holy Trinity the church was named00:00:40
thrombus and Paul Peter died in infancy00:00:44
and Paul was destined to become a priest00:00:47
of God00:00:48
to talk about the ascetic00:00:51
whose centenary of birth is celebrated on00:00:54
June 28, a candidate of00:00:57
historical sciences, a researcher at the00:00:59
Yekaterinburg Theological Seminary,00:01:00
Andrei Vladimirovich Pecherin, and a senior00:01:04
lecturer at the department of biblical studies and00:01:06
theology came to our studio Yekaterinburg Theological00:01:09
Seminary Andrei Viktorovich Razin00:01:11
Welcome and I’ll stop talking about this00:01:14
because all the most interesting and useful00:01:15
Tell you yes but in fact it’s00:01:20
difficult to say to such a wonderful ascetic Father Pavel was a bearer of00:01:23
grace and a00:01:25
stichist. The Ural si hast can00:01:28
easily be called him by comparing the letters of, for example,00:01:30
Joseph and sihast with the letters of Father Pavel00:01:33
Chazov Well, you’re simply amazed by them Well, in00:01:37
a sense, the spiritual heights of his00:01:40
letters represent the love of the Philokalia00:01:42
of our days. That is, this is the Heritage00:01:43
that has come down to us00:01:46
Contemporary yes yes Father Pavel has00:01:48
passed away, he will be 25 years old from the date of his death.00:01:50
August, now there will be a00:01:53
solemn service in the village of the00:01:56
pier where all our00:01:58
respected spectators We invite it00:02:00
will take place tomorrow at 9 o’clock in the morning it00:02:02
will be served as a council of the clergy,00:02:05
several clergy will00:02:07
come there, many parishioners who remembered00:02:09
Father Paul And not only those who honor00:02:12
His memory and so on00:02:14
there will be a solemn service, but I think news about00:02:16
this will also be on the Soyuz TV channel,00:02:18
it will be possible to watch later, but00:02:20
as for Father Pavle himself, how he00:02:22
turned to God and became a priest, Father00:02:24
Pavel came to church quite early, he came to the church00:02:26
in the forties during the war, his00:02:29
mother brought him there then while still a young00:02:31
boy, he was immediately called to00:02:32
serve at the altar. And in the fifty-00:02:34
second year he accepted the holy orders, and00:02:36
in the fifty-seventh year he served in00:02:40
Alapaevsk from the fifty-fifty-00:02:42
fourth to the fifty-seventh year and00:02:44
then he was transferred to another place and00:02:46
his first correspondence with his spiritual children00:02:48
and Zalapaevsk and you imagine the00:02:50
priest is only 35-36 years old and he writes00:02:54
to love and they pray to Jesus and00:02:58
writes such letters from which it is clear that00:03:00
he has lived00:03:01
this prayer with experience.00:03:03
I, as a historian, found an interesting document00:03:06
in the archives in the 60s This is the report of00:03:09
the commissioner who writes that the old man00:03:11
from Verkhoturye00:03:12
tonsured the priest Pavel Chazov into a00:03:16
monk, and this priest Pavel Chazov00:03:18
tonsured00:03:20
other people into nuns, something the old man from00:03:22
Verkhoturye This is Father Ignatius in the Yankee scheme, the00:03:25
reverends lied to this, the confessor is the00:03:26
confessor and the elder of Father Pavel Chazov00:03:28
second his confessor was Father00:03:30
Konstantin Shipunov and this is already a tradition. I am00:03:33
in Kronstadt, Father Young of Kronstadt00:03:35
here in the Urals when he was, he blessed00:03:38
Father Konstantin Shipunov, gave him00:03:40
a cross and this cross was preserved, it was00:03:42
kept by Pavel Chazov and this is the00:03:45
spiritual tradition of the two Elders who had00:03:46
it was nourished, and this is the00:03:49
unceasing prayer that Father00:03:51
Pavel acquired. It is probably such a00:03:53
legacy, is it very important and very00:03:55
little studied? Well, Andrei Viktorovich will00:03:57
probably continue. Because Andrei00:03:59
Viktorovich once typed00:04:00
his father’s letters in the 90,000s.00:04:03
Well, yes, indeed, Why is it so important the00:04:05
memory of people of such spiritual people, we00:04:10
call them elders because they are00:04:11
living bearers of Tradition. When we00:04:14
read books and some ancient00:04:17
ascetics, we are inspired. But for00:04:20
us this is separated by centuries of history and00:04:22
it seems that this history belongs to00:04:25
the light and has some relation to us00:04:28
and I remember that when I actually typed00:04:30
these dozen and a half letters, it00:04:33
took about a long time and somewhere until the00:04:36
middle I remained, but not exactly00:04:37
embarrassed. But in such00:04:39
deep reflection, because00:04:43
the experienced knowledge of God was so obvious, the00:04:48
direct action of the Holy Spirit was so obvious of00:04:51
the grace of God, the most important thing00:04:55
he spoke about this to ordinary people was his00:04:58
parishioners, that is, not a monk, but not00:05:02
such an obvious ascetic like those00:05:03
ancient ascetics, he directly taught their00:05:06
prayers to the deepest inner affairs, I00:05:09
could not understand, especially when00:05:14
the experiences of perceiving the Holy Spirit were described in the most00:05:17
enthusiastic expressions00:05:20
like Is it really possible that this can happen in our time,00:05:23
and somewhere in the middle,00:05:27
through the reading of the Apostle Paul and through the00:05:31
reading of hymns,00:05:32
that in Simeon the Theologian it all came together for me,00:05:36
I obviously remember this00:05:39
moment everything worked out for me. I realized that00:05:41
in fact the church is in According to her legend,00:05:44
she is completely alive, this00:05:46
precious gift of internal activity00:05:49
was historically passed on as Andrei00:05:51
Vladimirovich says Yes, and he accomplished00:05:53
everything from the start, it was accomplished in his students, and00:05:56
the most important conclusion was that this is not00:05:59
some rare unique00:06:02
esoteric gift that is available to the00:06:04
great an ascetic and what are these activities00:06:07
that are available to every Christian and are00:06:10
not only accessible but extremely necessary,00:06:14
then if we move further in this direction00:06:18
the thought came to us that such internal00:06:22
work is experienced and carried out,00:06:26
it is extremely necessary precisely in our00:06:28
times when tradition dries up, on the00:06:32
other hand it is renewed and the matter of00:06:35
salvation,00:06:37
but well, as it appears in the form of00:06:40
fulfilling certain rules there and so00:06:43
on, but at the same time, this is often lost.00:06:46
The evidence and essence of salvation is that00:06:50
salvation is our experienced communication with00:06:52
God. How can it be built only by Lily00:06:55
through observing fasts or only through00:06:58
visiting divine services these rules Here are00:07:02
his letters of his life, the00:07:04
direct fulfillment of the Gospel commandment of00:07:06
our Lord is revealed that in order to communicate with the00:07:11
heavenly father you need to enter your00:07:14
inner one and lock yourself in it with the00:07:16
deepest attention And00:07:20
turn to him with a certain heartfelt feeling,00:07:23
then an internal transformation takes place00:07:25
behind this purification of the soul follows,00:07:28
this is born in the deepest feeling of00:07:32
repentance, and then, in fact, the00:07:35
restoration of this00:07:38
Primordial man and the establishment of00:07:41
communication with God takes place. But if you allow, I can00:07:45
read out Yes, that would be very good00:07:47
because this is direct speech from letters,00:07:51
this is a letter from a horse to the spiritual Child00:07:56
the main thing is to say a prayer or00:07:59
feel the love of gratitude,00:08:01
reverence or a feeling of contrite00:08:04
repentance, that is, Father Paul says00:08:07
that prayer with internal00:08:09
immersion must have a certain00:08:12
quality and he speaks of these qualities00:08:15
as they are about certain heartfelt feelings, that00:08:18
is, prayer has this deep deep00:08:21
color so let's say00:08:24
in our feelings sinfulness they are00:08:26
virtues weaknesses self-condemnation love00:08:30
and humility the main virtues feelings00:08:32
that you need to pray for act in00:08:34
your entire life Jesus Prayer life00:08:37
according to the gospel This is our basic rule00:08:40
of behavior and further Father Paul gives very00:08:44
relevant advice because we live in00:08:48
peace and peace We are00:08:49
constantly, as it were, kidnapped by the world.00:08:58
How many times do you fall into sin? How many times do you get00:09:00
tired through Repentance you will not perish00:09:03
The Lord will strengthen you in His time00:09:05
I sympathize with you in the fact that it is difficult for you, but00:09:08
know that the difficulty was given to you according to your00:09:10
strength for everything, thank God with your00:09:13
daughter’s love, surrender everything to the holy00:09:16
will and you will be saved00:09:19
and indeed this inspiring00:09:22
feeling of00:09:23
God’s love,00:09:26
Father Paul always insists on it as00:09:30
something that should attract the human will to the maximum,00:09:33
that should00:09:35
inspire the heart, and it is very important that this is00:09:37
not some kind of exaltation, yes, and that the00:09:39
Jesus Prayer that Father00:09:42
Paul says is not not meditation, not just00:09:45
when a person is there, as it is now00:09:47
accepted in various forms, that a person00:09:51
has gathered means that he has set up some kind of harmonization00:09:54
within himself, that with the00:09:56
deepest feeling of repentance, without a feeling of repentance,00:09:59
without cleansing the soul,00:10:01
it is impossible, and the cultivation of the love of God, the00:10:04
perception of divine grace,00:10:06
divine grace, our soul will00:10:08
not improve in any way will not cleave to God00:10:19
all my life And this is the general mood and00:10:22
disposition of the heart Well,00:10:25
in most letters he always writes how00:10:29
good it is to be with God or with God it is always00:10:31
good And this word is good I even00:10:33
checked It’s just that she occurs 20 or 30 times,00:10:36
that is, these spikes stayed in00:10:38
such an unceasing feeling of joy and00:10:40
grace, this is what the Jesus Prayer gives, you don’t00:10:42
know what struck me when I read about00:10:45
him. Here is the refrain: meek, humble,00:10:48
meek, humble And someone even00:10:50
remembers that he did not enjoy authority among the priests,00:10:52
was unnoticeable, that00:10:54
is,00:10:56
this is the answer to the question of where he has the touch of00:11:00
prayer and the gift of teaching prayer, this is such a00:11:05
hidden elder of the Ural00:11:08
Well, look, it’s not for nothing that we pointed to00:11:11
two sources before the experience of prayer,00:11:14
because after all, this is not only00:11:17
teaching, but, let’s say, of a technical kind,00:11:20
they told us how to do it,00:11:21
they instructed This is a joint spiritual life00:11:25
with a man who, having experienced all the00:11:29
sorrows of life, cultivated for himself this very00:11:33
inner glue, created for himself this00:11:34
Inner space of the world of the joy of00:11:38
knowing God So let’s say and always00:11:42
sends himself in life to this very place, let’s say, a00:11:46
place of the heart, this is what00:11:54
experienced people taught him, we00:11:57
say transmissions of Tradition, we say we00:12:00
say BC Konstantin who had this00:12:02
and, in turn,00:12:08
spiritual talent,00:12:10
that is, a certain integrity and simplicity00:12:13
of the soul that is characteristic of people who00:12:15
we later call saints, and they have00:12:19
their own work superimposed on the already00:12:22
spiritual talent, a certain00:12:23
organization of the soul, well, as it is said,00:12:26
David walked before and went out in front of00:12:27
the people and everyone loved him, why00:12:30
they loved David because he is a very00:12:32
sincere and honest man to God, everyone00:12:35
saw this. But it was a spiritual talent and00:12:38
all of David’s feat was superimposed on this00:12:40
spiritual talent and, in fact, Father00:12:43
Paul had the same thing, that is, he accepted00:12:45
it00:12:46
how the Heritage he accepted it ardently He00:12:50
wanted it he loved to pray he wanted00:12:53
everyone to love to pray00:12:55
So he accepted it accordingly and00:12:58
tried to convey it and teach it00:13:01
And of course, when a person00:13:04
turns to God, then God acts in relation00:13:07
to him00:13:26
Yes, this book can be found and the00:13:30
book itself if someone reads00:13:32
I think we’ll talk about it on the Soyuz TV channel00:13:36
in the program at the bookshelf Yes, I00:13:39
think she will talk about it,00:13:42
we can finish with the last quote00:13:46
Yes, Andrei Vladimirovich said that00:13:50
he said something about how good it is to be with00:13:52
God he writes to Lyudmila, this is 70 years old00:13:56
Lyudmila You can’t imagine how good it is00:13:59
to be with God, the heart feels00:14:01
bliss, it’s incomparable to anything00:14:03
on earth But this is a long way to fight00:14:06
evil, but who will win,00:14:10
that is, And this is the mood of Father00:14:14
Paul that was obvious in him In00:14:16
his very Face, in his words, it may be00:14:20
the main thing. The intonation of the appeal to God and00:14:23
this teaching about internal work, which is00:14:29
conveyed here in his letters so frankly and simply by Andrei Vladimirovich, and00:14:31
finally, please once again Invite00:14:33
everyone to the service because00:14:35
maybe someone will gather tomorrow00:14:36
this village village pier Artinsky district00:14:40
here at 9 o'clock in the morning divine00:14:44
Ekaterinburg00:14:47
is located nearby and at 9 o'clock in the00:14:51
morning in the temple there00:14:54
will be no divine service of the Most Holy Theotokos or00:14:57
others Well and everything appropriate in00:15:01
honor of the celebration of the Centenary of the00:15:03
birth00:15:18
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Об иеромонахе Павле (Чазове) – духовном чаде прписп.Иоанна (Кевролетина) и иеросхимонаха Константина (Шипунова) – рассказывают к.и.н., научный сотрудник Екатеринбургской духовной семинарии Андрей Владимирович Печерин и старший преподаватель кафедры библеистики и богословия Екатеринбургской духовной семинарии Андрей Викторович Разин. Ведущая Светлана Ладина. Реквизиты помощи телеканалу: https://tv-soyuz.ru/aboutchannel/assistance Telegram ► https://t.me/s/tv_soyuz Группа ВК ► https://vk.com/tvsoyuz_ru МузСоюз ► https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWg33oqNCarMChHoxbt0loQ Яндекс Дзен ► https://dzen.ru/tv_soyuz Одноклассники: https://ok.ru/tvsoyuz Православное радио «Воскресение»: https://pravradio.ru/ Также рекомендуем вам посмотреть: Святейший Патриарх Кирилл: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7B9FBFB733B087CE Лекции профессора А.И. Осипова: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4B38A44AE8B9964A Церковный календарь: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJysY26LKbBRZ3gMtHt9EVsODTDQbzVHQ Читаем Евангелие вместе с Церковью: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJysY26LKbBQ2Q5dKHDGeOsoFv9rxnrjj Читаем Апостол: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJysY26LKbBQbDKs2FZpq2Cslx3xFC7Lf Беседы с батюшкой: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJysY26LKbBR_B8V6DRrpKzyl73fl3ARK
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