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to leave this first part of the00:00:06
pan-African debate with the third00:00:07
theme which interests us it is in00:00:09
the afternoon concerning the00:00:11
Central African Republic with its threats once00:00:14
again from these CPC rebels who00:00:18
threaten the Subaru market who want to00:00:20
overthrow Professor Foster when00:00:23
rats we are therefore talking about this00:00:24
third theme with your dear00:00:26
viewers and our guests in00:00:28
this first part of pan-African00:00:29
Bertrand tatinda it must be said that when00:00:32
since the last00:00:33
presidential election in the00:00:34
Central African Republic the coalition of00:00:36
patriots for change these PC which00:00:38
has its head François Bozizet continues to00:00:40
multiply the threats the threats00:00:43
until now have always been00:00:46
routed by the00:00:47
Central African armed forces the security defense forces00:00:49
of the Republic are00:00:50
African in collaboration with the00:00:52
Russian instructors who are on that side00:00:54
but Bertrand tata since the CPC00:00:57
comes back with new00:00:59
threats it must be remembered that the00:01:01
coordinator of the CPC and on the side of00:01:04
N'Djamena do you understand what00:01:06
is calling the authorities of the cat in00:01:08
any case it is not a African who00:01:10
calls on the authorities of the chat to00:01:11
clarify the situation of François Bozia00:01:14
finally rates their position with00:01:16
regard to breaking but of course00:01:22
the presence of Mr. work in the chat00:01:25
of reflection for us00:01:28
but I do not stop there me it's it' is00:01:30
a consequence for me it is the00:01:33
democratic system model we sold you00:01:35
all the democratic system models00:01:37
that we were sold have ideas that is to00:01:39
say that we create we create on the periphery00:01:43
people who will play the role of00:01:48
the stories00:01:50
from the national conferences of the00:01:52
1990s00:01:54
national conference spoke out00:01:56
on all this on the00:01:57
fundamental questions have you ever00:01:59
seen a conference 90 which spoke of the00:02:01
mining questions of a country never to00:02:04
say that here we are meets there00:02:07
Sovereign National Conference people will00:02:09
immediately give words we will00:02:10
talk about the riches of this country of the00:02:12
sovereignty of the country it was00:02:15
insult fairs to a head of state00:02:26
his whey worked the00:02:28
French tropical that you call ambassador00:02:34
without asking clear questions00:02:37
questions of cooperation agreements the00:02:39
schools of military cooperation the00:02:42
schools and we are going to the end of this00:02:43
national conference leading to what00:02:45
government of national unity and00:02:47
elections and Paris will applaud here is the00:02:49
democratically elected president00:02:51
c it's democracy there you create beautiful00:02:54
eyes00:02:58
like Mr.00:03:02
his candidacy for the election where he will00:03:05
reign his connector I know it's00:03:07
gripping like00:03:08
this story there this last one I do00:03:11
n't know what it is he's going to reign this00:03:13
story but we are going to ask the00:03:14
Central African authorities that even the00:03:16
Central African justice system has no00:03:17
questions00:03:20
to wander around they are they are orange he is going to00:03:24
wander around00:03:26
has nothing to ask as a question00:03:31
come like my kitchen00:03:34
you are perhaps a witness you have been a00:03:36
chef 'State even come and summon him even00:03:38
first as a witness absolutely nothing00:03:42
too many democracies I00:03:45
explained to you Bertrand Tatiana it's me00:03:47
you are not a dictator you do00:03:49
not have 40 years of power you cannot00:03:51
see you will hardly have my00:03:53
support00:03:55
I like strong powers the day00:03:57
that the NL will come to power dear00:03:59
Cameroonian the citizenship of the president00:04:00
will have the more00:04:04
severe we will be00:04:07
we will be God we should be00:04:09
disciplined we should be patriotic00:04:12
he who will dream of taking the last00:04:14
public like that00:04:19
I say the day that we and we00:04:21
will come to power we it is00:04:23
Cameroonian nationalism00:04:26
the beginning of the Cameroonian nationalist show00:04:29
against very traitor this is00:04:31
the issue after President Biya of00:04:33
controlling power in Cameroon00:04:34
nationalism against traitor against very00:04:37
sad the affairs of Oka against00:04:40
it will come together in 2025 go follow the00:04:43
speech of in Canada comment on the00:04:46
speech of okaoum will make a00:04:48
declaration at the forum of the UN in 5600:04:51
read what said about him that00:04:53
it is a bandit why he wants to embarrass00:04:55
Cameroon he wants he wants to isolate00:04:58
Cameroon Cameroon cannot follow his00:05:01
voice we are going to isolate ourselves we are open00:05:03
France we are open in case this is00:05:05
what will play out after the president00:05:07
c that is to say that the remedy of the power of00:05:10
1960 they will no longer have France to00:05:13
support how you do00:05:14
what can explain as good said wants to00:05:16
march on the capital while the00:05:18
people are on its second00:05:25
but what can justify00:05:27
today it is because France00:05:29
when it sells you this democracy is also guilty00:05:34
of blackmailing the president to00:05:37
justify his intervention for laughs that00:05:39
you see00:05:40
what can justify that the00:05:42
Central African politicians called00:05:45
democrats are inside what we00:05:46
called the CPC00:05:49
I am a Central African politician00:05:51
I have how I am going to say that I have a00:05:53
political instrument I am selling a project00:05:55
I have the possibility even tomorrow of 'being head00:05:58
of state what am I going to do00:06:00
inside someone that justice has00:06:02
not prevented from presenting who is being00:06:04
prosecuted00:06:26
actually00:06:28
the presence of working in Chad00:06:36
to say that you explain to us that00:06:40
when even his white knows you ca00:06:41
n't be white as snow by00:06:42
welcoming someone to offer the00:06:44
city but he there in a political refugee00:06:48
to go take power and we00:06:50
even wonder when he says that he is going to00:06:51
march on the capital if he is not going to00:06:53
use a certain number of elements and00:06:54
the relay in the country in which he00:06:56
launched to go march on the capital00:06:57
that is the question that we can ask ourselves and00:07:00
there we will we can question the power00:07:02
therefore00:07:03
stabilizing power and which is in00:07:06
a coalition with Cameroon in a00:07:07
cohesion of stabilization of the SEMAC00:07:09
we cannot be in a00:07:10
coalition of stabilization of the semmat00:07:13
with a partner who hosts an00:07:15
individual who tells him that he will going to00:07:17
march on the capital of a00:07:19
SEMAC country is serious,00:07:21
dear Africans, but I still remind you00:07:23
that you were head of state,00:07:26
here are the funny people to see the funny people00:07:30
in power, dear Africans, funny people00:07:32
for I believe that it you have to wish for00:07:34
an entire country00:07:37
except wishing that a joker comes to00:07:39
power to pay they will even skip a00:07:40
country quantifier comes to00:07:42
legislative power students00:08:11
because if today France is00:08:14
attacked you will see the means that00:08:16
the constitution of the 5th00:08:19
French Republic gives to Mr Macron with00:08:21
the history of covid you even have00:08:23
the history of covid he has gained00:08:24
awareness the freedoms00:08:28
you can leave your room or00:08:31
if you can leave your home00:08:37
in France00:08:40
and on which it was engraved it must be00:08:43
said that it's a gas that passed00:08:48
here are the steps00:09:00
I'm passing my project there was no00:09:03
debate on the00:09:08
social security bill there was no debate00:09:09
don't do this 49 3 so when you have00:09:12
therefore a president will come to him00:09:15
practically from civil society with00:09:18
a political project he arrived head00:09:20
of state00:09:21
too much democracy you democracy but00:09:25
to look everywhere everywhere in all00:09:28
the countries look00:09:32
you have a piece state00:09:43
he has the cameras I remind you that everything00:09:46
has already announced his candidacy00:09:48
Mr. Katum looks to me like someone00:09:50
if the defeated in the00:09:52
presidential election who will say that I am00:09:53
beaten never be the weapons00:09:57
at Mr. Thierry of Rwanda00:10:03
when you look at the head of Mr.00:10:05
Katumbi and you at the election there is a00:10:07
democracy00:10:12
someone of whom we know that election00:10:15
that he speaks is for not the00:10:17
Cameroonian Pala to say it is for00:10:18
problem he knows that he will be beaten on a00:10:21
mercenary00:10:24
camera00:10:26
he did a tour the people the00:10:28
people so I can explain to you00:10:30
why he is popular you know00:10:32
anyway Satan is popular many00:10:34
people cry in the name of Satan the00:10:36
followers of Satan are more numerous00:10:39
on earth than the followers of the true00:10:40
God the president00:10:44
Satan is popular we even wonder00:10:46
if Satan will have an election with God here00:10:48
on earth if God will beat him00:10:50
so you see at once therefore00:10:53
explaining to you that the beautiful ideas00:10:55
are the consequences of the models it is00:10:59
to understand00:11:01
it is the consequences of the00:11:03
democratic model that you have so as long as00:11:05
you have saved democratic but we were00:11:07
told I told you calm confrontation00:11:09
in 2007 that00:11:12
's about what I can say about00:11:15
this situation but you have to tell00:11:17
Mr. Boss00:11:19
that we are going rather ask the00:11:22
Central African power00:11:25
in an official and legal way now00:11:32
you are going to explain you are going to take your00:11:34
speech what mechanism the present can00:11:35
do and in an official way my mark00:11:38
send me00:11:46
it is clear that the CAR00:11:50
the veil of Bangui00:11:54
of sorcerer I I don't understand anything it was00:11:56
n't the crazy thing that Bangui officially00:12:00
extradited Mr.00:12:04
Bozyle that we have reached the end00:12:06
of this broadcast will allow each00:12:08
of you to say a word quickly00:12:10
in two minutes put in January Momo00:12:12
how the Bangui authorities can00:12:13
therefore do to officially as00:12:15
Bertrand Tatinda said demand the00:12:18
return the extradition of François Bozizet00:12:20
on the Bangui side00:12:23
it is a stone in the shoe of the00:12:27
development of the00:12:28
Central African Republic00:12:30
you know in 2013 c It's Michel I00:12:34
tell you with the Seleka who pushes him order00:12:37
power00:12:42
of the French pawns with the former00:12:45
president of the National Assembly but00:12:47
that to himself it is00:12:49
French reserve officers that he keeps that00:12:53
France puts in a safe place for at any00:12:57
time the intervention when the00:13:00
necessity arises in a country like the00:13:01
Central African Republic00:13:03
booser and liable to continue00:13:06
firstly during the coup d'état of 201300:13:09
leaving he looted the00:13:10
Central African Republic00:13:16
it is a crime00:13:17
which m prescribed in the light of the law00:13:22
had already opened an investigation can00:13:26
pursue Brazilian François and00:13:27
ask the transitional government00:13:29
of Jack the extradition of this man to00:13:32
the Central African Republic today00:13:33
in the cat he threatens and as history does00:13:36
not lie he knows that François that Michel00:13:39
Djokodia hardware dealer of his state00:13:44
left at the head of Seleka to00:13:47
become head of state in the00:13:48
Central African Republic00:13:51
he knows that France always follows the same00:13:54
path to live to install the00:13:56
heads of state the puppets in power00:13:58
it is at all times a movement which is00:14:01
supported by France and by a00:14:03
version of Central Africans and I would like00:14:06
to make a loan to get out quickly00:14:15
but the case of President Trudeau and us00:14:17
but the00:14:20
French president with enemies who are in00:14:24
the government and who have been imposed00:14:26
but he himself knows that some of00:14:29
these ministers but are dangerous to00:14:31
tell him you have not seen what Dala00:14:34
the president00:14:41
says that the head of state does not have the00:14:44
authority to opt on the00:14:46
economic level on the instrument of00:14:49
commercial exchanges a whole President of the00:14:52
Republic which is an institution it is00:14:55
not only a natural person but00:14:56
the President Republic it is an00:14:58
institution00:14:59
for company that the case of the00:15:01
Central African Republic raises00:15:02
many questions and the00:15:06
president tradera must understand that at00:15:08
a given moment like in Mali00:15:12
he puts them between the00:15:14
administrative organization at a given moment it is necessary00:15:17
that the ancient justice is the real one not00:15:20
the one that we see which has the aim of being00:15:24
interested in the acts of the president and00:15:25
to cancel them Thank you to YOU master00:15:28
January Momo and well Charles queniel00:15:30
situation it is very worrying00:15:32
given that the stabilization of the00:15:35
Central African Republic is important00:15:37
for Jade for Cameroon do00:15:39
you also share the00:15:41
point of view of Bertrand tatinda and00:15:43
his Africans the point of view according to00:15:45
which the government of Jamena would have00:15:48
more and quickly interest in clarifying00:15:51
the situation with François Bouzizi of00:15:53
course you know situation of insecurity00:15:55
in the Central African Republic the consequences will be00:15:57
visible in Cameroon whether in00:15:59
Chad and even in Niger perhaps even in00:16:03
Sudan,00:16:04
that is to say that the principle of00:16:06
the interdependence of states00:16:08
ensures that00:16:10
socio-political or00:16:12
socio-economic instability in one country has00:16:13
direct repercussions in others, it is00:16:16
a economic principle but you know00:16:19
what bothers me in this story00:16:21
are the allies who are even the00:16:24
source of this announcement and who yesterday00:16:28
had taken a position but today00:16:30
the positions must seem a little00:16:32
vague to me I was talking to you about a man whose00:16:33
name is Noureddine Adam00:16:35
it is00:16:37
the basis of this press release which precisely00:16:39
says that the CPC00:16:42
arrived in Bangui and returns power it00:16:45
has a mandate00:16:47
exactly00:16:49
what puts me00:16:51
in the dafoutis00:16:55
what bothers me with this new madame00:16:57
is is that I want to remind you that00:16:59
this guy was the number 2 of the seleca00:17:03
and the K series when the power is made00:17:04
it00:17:06
makes the coup d'état in 2013 to00:17:08
precisely chase break00:17:14
therefore so that the same causes of which he00:17:19
reproaches abused are the same causes00:17:21
for which he went to Abidjan00:17:23
to oust power you understand00:17:25
a little what is disturbing in all this00:17:29
is that here is someone who set the00:17:32
country on fire and as a00:17:34
result00:17:39
they created banned girls between00:17:42
two00:17:43
brothers00:17:50
and security defense forces00:17:55
two things00:17:56
firstly is that we know00:17:59
directly involved in the comfort by00:18:01
sending the men on site the00:18:02
largest contingent even before the00:18:04
Canadian minister the integrated mission00:18:09
to precisely see first in to what00:18:12
extent we can provide the minimum00:18:13
security to the civilian populations which00:18:15
should00:18:58
and then even again past 2016 we arrive00:19:02
at 2019 a ticket gentleman arrives for this00:19:05
fostera here what we called the 13th00:19:08
peace agreement of the00:19:10
Central African crisis or even the00:19:11
cartoon door February 6, 201900:19:15
here the katum agreements you know what00:19:16
told me here the cardboard agreements00:19:18
between Barry's government and everyone00:19:22
including the food group00:19:26
but today00:19:30
I see you he accuses the president00:19:33
Foster when you arrive at the same00:19:34
sides00:19:35
he hunted for the same causes it's00:19:38
so stupid this story it's00:19:39
so stupid00:19:42
if you want to make me logical00:19:43
since he is one of those who00:19:45
signed the katum peace agreements he00:19:47
could have even said that the peace agreements00:19:48
are not respected by the00:19:50
president and therefore00:19:52
the agreements00:20:10
and who have00:20:13
even arrived at the head of your states00:20:14
like that likewise who are few to think00:20:16
heads we00:20:18
have come we must speak to the Africans00:20:24
you know I often like to say you have to00:20:26
go out you have to go out00:20:32
in general it's often told to me00:20:36
that Charlie do you have you00:20:38
have a trap said do you00:20:40
have a doctorate00:20:42
I'm not one school00:20:45
that I am not from harvest my00:20:46
school it is my brain I created my00:20:47
school it is that I write it is what I00:20:49
think it is my reflection it is my common00:20:50
sense that my school it's quite00:20:55
a moment, Africans must00:20:56
understand that we must get away from the00:20:59
concepts of precepts and tartans of00:21:02
everything that has been published to us, you know00:21:04
the best reasoning is in you,00:21:06
it is not what the school itself00:21:08
teaches us nothing accepts us nothing00:21:12
absolutely nothing00:21:18
graduated from the Cairo police academy00:21:21
specialist in questions of this00:21:24
graduated from that a thug like that00:21:32
the one who chased him yesterday today00:21:34
recognizes him for the merit that it is he the00:21:36
best President yesterday he was the00:21:38
longest base he is the best00:21:42
party00:21:49
either this gentleman and I killed him00:21:53
who has two things either once the other00:21:55
or this gentleman is bipolar that00:21:57
means that from time to time he was having00:21:58
memory problems either he is what00:22:00
is very little or he is instrumentalized00:22:03
by someone else who kills the00:22:04
strings and who tells him here is the money00:22:05
here you are sleeping thank you thank you dear00:22:10
friends thank you for this intervention we will00:22:12
therefore conclude this program with you00:22:13
Manhattan president can we say00:22:15
to get out of this first part of the00:22:17
pan-African debate edition January 1,00:22:19
202300:22:25
we are wasting time who is this guy00:22:28
it is only money00:22:30
he is a small agent00:22:32
he is a small agent how each00:22:35
time he obtains00:22:36
exiles and residences in such and such a place00:22:39
why he is not retained00:22:42
two years ago00:22:45
two years ago00:22:54
it is France00:23:00
to a certain extent00:23:03
[Music]00:23:08
so there is00:23:10
France which is there there is the00:23:15
measure the time which is getting00:23:18
agitated and you have on the one hand the00:23:21
solution mainly the problem00:23:37
it is a problem it is a problem00:23:40
then the situation where you have00:23:42
complexes you are facing a00:23:44
transition regime which is very weak which is00:23:46
weak on the geopolitical level which is00:23:49
weak because it is it is00:23:51
France says that it is that it wants in00:23:54
Chad the basis to do what it wants00:23:57
power00:24:02
no authority authority is the same00:24:06
Libreville is based00:24:09
they can say the day00:24:11
after day of war bar of00:24:13
war base of military base00:24:15
it is a major political problem00:24:17
exposes problem of the nature of the00:24:21
regimes which are in this country to00:24:23
what extent this type of regime is still00:24:24
compatible with the00:24:25
geopolitical developments which are imposed on the mouse00:24:27
they are the fundamental questions which00:24:29
require very high00:24:31
level consultation and how to say and the four00:24:34
political games to be taken into account00:24:35
radical way that is to say that the bottom sally00:24:38
is totally in the dynamic of the00:24:39
under the people who aim to ask for00:24:40
French-speaking imperatism there is no00:24:43
way we are not going to do00:24:46
the simulation today but the young president he00:24:49
is afraid00:24:50
his father had the street file on the00:24:52
table he wanted I signed there00:25:00
that means that you can scare00:25:03
and if you are afraid yes or do something00:25:05
that will annoy him00:25:07
so this question is is not that00:25:10
we must00:25:11
touch a leader why they are00:25:14
in solidarity when the French Mali00:25:21
of the European Union why they are00:25:23
in solidarity because they are understood that00:25:26
an assassinated president we are content to00:25:30
make press releases from God00:25:32
he must have had a international corsair action00:25:38
show that00:25:39
you address childhood or it is not even00:25:42
what you play anymore than to00:25:45
say00:25:46
no one we know that this is00:25:49
market gardening we took the courage to00:25:50
say it here we said here00:25:53
it's known00:26:12
they can't00:26:14
postpone the war in the Central African Republic from Chad it's00:26:18
not serious you have to stop it well00:26:20
now it was very easy to have00:26:31
changed a lot00:26:47
and then there is a friend today the00:26:50
Fatals the false Central African friends are00:26:53
cured and they have a00:26:54
serious military partnership and with00:27:01
suicide00:27:07
the largest mercenaries in the world the00:27:09
largest mercenary companies00:27:11
it was not that I think00:27:18
of mercenaries we were strong00:27:33
so you make partnerships we are waiting for them00:27:37
we are waiting to tell us that he is coming we are00:27:40
waiting for them00:27:41
we are waiting for them the cat must take the00:27:45
measure to remove it from under people00:27:47
seriously I am not one of those who00:27:49
barks with emotion he played the cat00:27:51
it was completely I I said the only00:27:54
way the only way is that the fear of00:27:56
doing nothing the beginning of Chad it's00:27:58
France00:28:00
at the chat level it's France00:28:07
good if the Chadian president says ok well00:28:09
I want the American card00:28:11
against France it won't say it because00:28:12
the Americans are demons00:28:16
I have some00:28:54
they know that steal kill destroy00:28:56
so if he wants him to quickly analyze the00:29:00
situation to be seriously done at the00:29:01
leadership level it only comes at the00:29:03
level of the sub-reality00:29:13
who decided to do what he wanted to00:29:15
do he doesn't care about the leader but00:29:16
not all the time of that said that we do00:29:18
n't care we must take measures00:29:19
indeed00:29:21
it takes courage from the soldiers are00:29:23
courageous it takes courage it's very00:29:26
important it's true00:29:29
it's not on the counter it's the same00:29:37
a courageous soldier we take risks00:29:41
bull00:29:42
we feel that the guy is current00:29:50
the only thing that is done so he00:29:52
It is necessary that at the level of the chat00:29:55
I know that it is difficult with the00:29:58
costs with the family entity flow00:30:00
which was divided today and that for00:30:03
the majority of French people with00:30:05
their country in the morning noon evening with its00:30:08
complicated c it's not easy the fact the00:30:11
fact it's a French army the university00:30:14
it's a French army00:30:15
the fax from the French army00:30:21
in fact in fact it's time which is going to00:30:24
attack the mouse because the project00:30:26
at Tania is clearly France is00:30:28
downgraded time has taken things00:30:30
in hand because the French president00:30:31
is a00:30:32
French American too bad for00:30:35
he will lead the fight for liberation and00:30:37
which was very advanced and secure00:30:39
so the fight for liberation is is the00:30:42
time the goal of NATO is to create00:30:43
chaos in the assault reason to uconize00:30:46
because when the crook the affairs00:30:48
Marty wins or a tension00:31:04
it is a currency of theft of brigandage00:31:06
it is seen they have so much damn that00:31:09
now they are even extracting reserves already by force they are taking00:31:11
conflicts it is theft we have00:31:13
returned to the quinté00:31:16
so today the project gets from the00:31:20
sub-region it is this chaos00:31:21
in the absence of it is the terror we00:31:24
terrorist00:31:27
leaders who are fragile00:31:31
tend either you see or want to00:31:33
make inadequate alliances with the00:31:35
United States it's not the path of00:31:36
the future the program you take it's00:31:39
clear it's alliance his father his choices00:31:41
are created00:31:45
we are waiting we are waiting for his thugs there Bangui00:31:48
it will be Brice's battle against00:31:50
time Thank you to YOU president magnificent00:31:54
conclusion we are going to say it we have00:31:55
therefore arrived at the end of this edition00:31:57
this first part of the00:31:59
pan-African debate the first the very00:32:01
first of the year thank you to you dear00:32:03
viewers for following us00:32:04
thank you to you dear sir on this00:32:06
set for accompanying us thank you00:32:07
also to the entire technical team who00:32:09
worked hard to ensure that00:32:10
this premiere took place in good00:32:13
conditions in the production we had00:32:15
daynathan and on the00:32:17
hotel and embassy broadcasting side I will meet you00:32:19
for other editions always on00:32:21
Pan African television stay on00:32:22
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