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I would like to talk about

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[music] the

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current situation with the

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findings of the state audit service, which

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recorded the

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profits of all the suppliers of

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the Ministry of Defense in losses to the state budget, for absolutely no reason,

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as they know that the parliament expressed its

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position in the relevant resolution that was

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voted by the constitutional majority

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regarding the inadmissibility

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the inadmissibility of such a people's audit and the

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inaction of the Cabinet of Ministers, but

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as far as I understand the issue is essentially

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not resolved by the Cabinet of Ministers, it will

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endanger all defense purchases of Ukraine,

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since no company will supply

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anything to the Ministry of Defense, knowing

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for sure that their profit will

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simply be the

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basis for criminal proceedings by

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law enforcement authorities according to the

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audit findings, what is currently happening with

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this situation, has the Cabinet of

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Ministers reacted in any way to the position of

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the Verkhovna Rada, I know that the committee and,

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accordingly, yours, turned to Schmagal with the

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same question.

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in particular, we gave the opportunity to the

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Cabinet of Ministers to decide it there. The

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question is that it was the Cabinet of

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Ministers who created it because by making

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two resolutions that, let's say,

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contradicted each other, and

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thus the state civil service chose what,

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let's say, they thought was more correct and

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then we appealed and wrote to say this to

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solve this issue, but the Cabinet of Ministers, as usual,

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everything went into the bureaucracy and

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could not solve anything, and we have already

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been approached by many private and

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state companies that our

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law enforcement agencies very often work in

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places where it is easier for you to know and immediately pounced

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criminal cases were opened against them and, in particular,

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already against those companies that honestly

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supplied there. I will say that they came to

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work in this way, they put the shoulder of the

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Ukrainian army to the Ukrainian

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defense forces, and then they began to open

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criminal cases against them, therefore it was decided that a

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decision was made through the Verkhovna Rada

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to pass a

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Resolution that introduced clarity and the Cabinet of Ministers

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must implement it, I will say that we have

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many such issues, so that I also

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struggled with the write-off of property and several

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times the change of the defense and logistics forces came and in

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er, I talked with the

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representatives of the cabin er, well, I told

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them what about what needs to be resolved

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quickly internally, the write-off, which in fact is now not,

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let’s say, does not help the military in the

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field, I’m afraid, only bureaucratizes the system, and

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also it all dragged on for months, and

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also it was decided to introduce a

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law that will clearly simplify the write-off at the

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front in the field that is why this bureaucracy and

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somewhere may not want to solve these

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issues, they are now forcing the Verkhovna

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Rada to adopt such resolutions, although it

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can regulate and should regulate, and

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in particular the Cabinet of Ministers.

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Greetings, Roman, I would like to talk to you

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about the

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list of reforms sent by the White

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House and which to hold Ukraine in order to

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continue aid, this is possibly one of the

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most discussed events of

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today, and it is certainly

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not only about changes in anti-corruption

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bodies, and it is prescribed for the periods of the

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next three months, six months, a year, and 18

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months, but in general, this applies to

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almost all spheres of the functioning of the

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state, including the security services

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Ukraine and here I am interested in your opinion on

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this matter. How

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realistic do you think these reforms are in the terms

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prescribed by the White House?

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Well, what concerns the SBU. Yes, it is

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written there that reforms must be made somewhere

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18 months in advance, SBU certification,

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restrictions on service activities the security of

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counter-intelligence Chan tezhpygun

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activity, only without this nightmare of

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entrepreneurs there or something else, despite the

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fact that for years there was talk about reforms in the

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SBU, how realistic do you think this

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reform is in the next year and a half, do

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you know the

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reforms in general?

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wartime is, on the one hand, a chance, on the other

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hand, it is very, very difficult, and there must

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be a person who, let's say, lead, who

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really wants these reforms, who understands what the

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security service should be, in particular, what is

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required of it, we know that what

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we are being asked to remove is the

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employees and there are military personnel of the

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security service, they immediately react to it, do

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you want to take away

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the levers for them from us there for many

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important levers, anti-corruption

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economic levers of the micronuke, you want to

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influence, therefore for them it is a very important

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component and in

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civilian time it is much more important

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for them even than the

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ball itself and it will be very difficult, let's say,

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to force this component to be given, because

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I have always been in favor of these

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criminal cases that are not under investigation by the

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security services, that they should not be in the

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Security Service, and this is necessary, well, this is a chance, it

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can be done, not only are the changes not in effect

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now The Security Service. I think it

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can only be strengthened because we are

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now dispersing our efforts when we have

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many law enforcement agencies and they

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simply duplicate what is. did

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not get into the nabu, for

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example, to be transferred to the SBU

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there by the decision of the prosecutor's office A And this really

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negatively affects the other Security Service from

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my point of view and their potential

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further, therefore I think that it can be done

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now by the Security Service, there are many people But

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the main direction Well, it must be, it must be

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done if we are going to do it, it should be

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done very carefully, and this part

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should be reformatted, let's say, which does not

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exist, should not be in the Security Service.

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we

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have to protect, but it is counterintelligence, of

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course,

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for Thanks to the novels for participating in the broadcast.

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Roman Kostenko, People's Deputy from

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Voice, Colonel of the SBU and Secretary of the

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Verkhovna Rada Committee on

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National Security, Defense and Intelligence, was in

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touch with us.

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