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Інтерв'ю Юрія Бібіка з Віктором Шлінчаком
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Ракетний удар по Одесі
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Макрон відправить свої війська в Одесу?
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Німеччина стане на бік Франції?
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Путін готовий воювати з НАТО?
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США розглядає надання Україні кредиту?
25:43
Байден уже випереджає Трампа?
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Mr. Viktor, I congratulate you. Good day. I congratulate
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you. It is not a very good day, but congratulations to all
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of you. Yes, it is true, it is unfortunately true.
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I would say a tragic day tomorrow in
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Odessa. Tomorrow in Odessa, the flags will be at
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half-mast.
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55
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injured This is reported by
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the administration of the Russian
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administration troops hit Odesa with two
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Iscanderm missiles
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Natali Khomenyuk reports this as a result of which a
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three-story building of a
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recreational facility was destroyed and
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10 private houses and cars were also damaged And this is what
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is known now, that is, the information
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is updated every time as soon as
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avengers arrived, rescuers, the Russians struck a second time
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and with Unfortunately, a
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huge disaster also happened to the medics and avengers,
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they died.
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I understand that this is a war and we all understand
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that this is a war, but still the
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same question arises, how to answer what to
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do, what should be ours Revenge
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in the end. I believe that in this
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case there are indeed things that should be
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paid attention to. I am not a military
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analyst, but I really pay attention and
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analyze what is happening in
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international politics, and I have a
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feeling that today's attack on Odessa
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was not
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without reason. This was the
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answer of Mr.
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Macron, who actually named Odesa a few days
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ago as one of the possible centers
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where the French troops could arrive.
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This city was actually named.
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Taking into account the fact
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that Putin reacted even in his speech
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to Macron's words, and it was clear that
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Macron himself was affected by this this is probably the first time
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in the
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history of the Western world in the last two
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years when it was not Putin but Macron who raised the
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stakes, and it just hit Putin very hard
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if, on the last day
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before preparing Putin's address
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to the federal assembly, the speechwriters tried to write a
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huge paragraph as a reaction to exactly
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this statement As reported by Lemont
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yesterday, Macron actually talked about the introduction of the possible
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introduction of troops into Ukraine or
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military assistance to Ukraine a
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year ago in unofficial various circles,
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but the word Odessa was sounded just
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a few days ago, and now it is
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extremely important for Putin to send a signal,
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first of all, to the Western world that not
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would you even think of doing this?
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That is, of course. It could be my
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analytical calculations and guesses. I
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don’t have, like the majority of analysts, the
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answer to the question of whether Putin really
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gave such an order, but it is very similar to
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it. Please tell me how you feel about what
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Macron proposed about what he
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said, how do you look at his
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interview yesterday? Unfortunately, it was
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interpreted by many in a different way
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than what he actually said.
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Odesa and will they be in this
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case? In general, what do you know, what
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drives Macron when he makes such statements, it’s
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interesting. Well, we need to start with some kind of
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retrospective or prospective here, so
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that Macron is in the second term of
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his rule in France, accordingly, he will
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no longer apply for the position of
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president next year, when
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the elections will be held,
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but he can go down in history as the leader of
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Europe, who actually began to declare
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France as the leader of this entire
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European continent, actually taking into account the
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possible possible coming
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to power of Trump and
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according to the illusion of various low things
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that we hear from the United
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States of America i.e. if Europe
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is left alone
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and
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NATO may lose one of its
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biggest allies there, I mean the
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United States of America, I do not rule out
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that European countries will return to the
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idea previously voiced by Macron, which
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was at one time failed before the creation of a
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unified European
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security force and in this In this case, I think that with
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this
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statement, he is instigating a great
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debate within Europe about what we will
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do if we face new
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challenges, there are no bilateral
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agreements signed with Ukraine, no slogans
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like We will support Ukraine
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as much as necessary, there is no
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guarantee there Actually, peace inside
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Europe, but the story here is very interesting,
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because in Europe there are actually divided
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opinions on whether Putin, in case of defeat, will continue to
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fight with European countries or
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not, and some believe that such a
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scenario is likely, quite likely,
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especially
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the leaders of those countries that are
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at odds with Russia are thinking about this these are the Baltic countries,
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of course,
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Poland, but there are many countries that
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believe that Putin is not
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going to go beyond Ukraine. And I actually saw it from my own
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experience when I was at the
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Munich Security Conference. I heard
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when some leaders of individual countries frankly
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do not want to name them here now, but they said
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that Exactly there will be no such scenario. And in
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this, in the background of this discussion, in
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principle, is it
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necessary to leave the comfort zone and
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join the arms race in the review of
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military
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budgets in the review of the NATO security forces, which are as
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effective as they are now and
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be included in the analysis of their capabilities in the
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background of all this, Macron makes a similar
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statement, it is clear that in this case, for
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those for that part of the leaders of the
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European Union, and not only the
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European Union, who hear such
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statements, it puts them in a stupor, especially
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given the fact
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that many of these countries in the near future
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will be the same as and France, like the
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United States of America, to be in the
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electoral process, respectively, they are
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even afraid to raise this issue
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in front of their own population because they are afraid
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that there will not be much support for this idea
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actually even in France since, let's say, when
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two weeks ago or three weeks ago, Macron
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first announced this
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the idea was very quickly carried out by certain
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newspaper polls there and almost
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58%
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of the French believe that this is a bad idea. The
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imbalance may swing somewhere
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in the other direction. But nevertheless, at the
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time of this
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statement, the percentages were such and such,
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respectively, in countries that
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have lived a peaceful life for many decades who
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believed that the war in Europe is something from the
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realm of
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fiction, now it is very difficult to change the consciousness of these
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people. I think that the Ukrainians too,
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if they were returned to the year 21 and asked
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about the war about a possible full-scale war,
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they would also push aside any such
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modalities because we do not think that
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when one country in principle resolves its
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territorial claims, ideological
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claims and some strategic goals due to the fact
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that it simply kills people
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from other
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countries,
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therefore,
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summarizing, I think that
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this statement will have great
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consequences for the European Union in general,
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and I think that Macron is on his way, it is already
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clear that he will
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insist that this scenario
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be considered by the leaders of the European Union and
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he really wants to dictate this agenda. It is
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very interesting. You know what the publication
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BMBEG writes about the fact that French President
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Macron is increasing the pressure on
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German Chancellor Scholz to he took a more
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decisive position in support of Ukraine, we
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know that the leaders of France and
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Germany are meeting today and
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they are meeting with the Prime Minister of
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Poland, Donald Tusk, in Berlin to
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discuss how best to provide assistance to
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our country, but in addition, Macron is playing
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his role. they just laid out everything on the
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shelves when they told how there is a goal, a
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task, and
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what
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Macron is guided by in his policy, now I want to
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ask you if this will help or if this kind of
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pressure on Scholz will help to convince him to
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act more decisively in terms of supporting our
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country, I am actually really looking forward to this
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meeting this is a meeting in the so-called
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Wemer triangle. And
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in fact, when Scholz and the Prime Minister of
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Poland, I think that they will put pressure on
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Macron that, in addition to what he declares, he
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makes such big public statements, it would be
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good if he did some substantive
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things, for example transferred to Ukraine
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at least a larger number of
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weapons. France can do this now.
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France is only in eighth place. Let me remind you that
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with military aid to Ukraine, and in fact
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France has a lot of opportunities for
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this in order to support
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just such
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outrageous statements that we usually
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like to support with some real
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things as individual
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representatives of individual European countries do.
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Let's say this because, on the one hand, we
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naturally have big claims against
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Germany, but it has also gone through such a long
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civilizational path
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to the point that it really transfers in the
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second city, in fact, in terms of
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arms assistance to Ukraine, and you remember that
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this path began with humanitarian missions
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and with the transfer of 5,000 helmets, everyone remembers
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this moment, the year 2022, no one believes that
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Ukraine will survive at all, accordingly,
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they transfer some humanitarian things,
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and of course we want to receive
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taurus there, you know this more.
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than practically now my
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boots will fly off, but 10
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Taurus missiles will not change too
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much the smoke on
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the front, but I repeat,
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this will be a very big signal for many
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other countries, and since Germany also
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plays a huge role in the European
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Union, it is actually the largest economy of the
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European Union, this will mean that
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other countries will also be able to join
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this
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coalition, you and I talked about
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the possible, well, about how Europe reacts,
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in particular to Russia, you shared your own experience
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there in the context of the meetings and
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your visit to the Munich
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Security Conference and the reaction of European
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leaders there, but today and It seems that this is
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not the first time that Estonian intelligence reports
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that Russia is preparing for the next
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war, and it is likely that it will be a conflict with
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NATO. In the next 10 years,
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Fre Polisi reports. And I
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want to ask you if Putin is really so
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inclined that he is ready to
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go to war with
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NATO. I just spoke in Munich with the
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Minister of Defense of Estonia. I think that
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all the Baltic countries are currently on
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high alert. In
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fact, the NATO exercises that
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will be planned for the spring
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confirm that all these small, well
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small, I mean geographically
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small countries
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Actually, they are quite worried about whether
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this well-known article, the fifth article of
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NATO, will be effective. What if, in the event of an attack on one of the
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NATO countries, NATO must
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react,
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and I think that this concern dictates
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certain
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actions.
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Estonia is in the first
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place in comparison to Ukraine, if in terms of
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its gross domestic product,
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it is 1 whole, if I am not mistaken,
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39x% of its gross domestic
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product, Estonia transferred to the needs of
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Ukraine, if we had at least one
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percent of the United States of America,
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imagine what it would be
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there was a lot of weapons and everything else, if
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we are now talking only about the fact that America
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uses 3% of the budget of
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the Pentagon, we understand that this budget is
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quite modest in the total volume of the
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GDP of the United States.
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So, returning to the
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Baltic countries, in fact, Russia I have repeatedly
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tested the nerves of
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NATO countries and we remember how the missile
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flew over the
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territory of NATO countries and in
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order to check how fast the
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reaction will be, I repeat that the fifth
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article of NATO of the NATO charter provides for
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consultations to begin in the first 48
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hours. That is, it is not a sudden entry into the
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war in 48 hours, anything can happen,
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and here really a lot of countries are
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now worried
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that for some special operations,
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20 hours is enough to capture and enter some
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territory and capture it. But it
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seems to me that the calculation is as follows.
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NATO that now
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Ukraine holds back all the ground troops of
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Russia because it is actually transferring
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ground troops to the Ukrainian front and
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there are no such opportunities to
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invade this or that country and,
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accordingly, also provoke a conflict with
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NATO, that is, on the one hand, Russia
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puffs up its cheeks and waves with its nuclear
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club, on the other hand, the
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ground troops are really
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scattered.
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will continue to
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use other hybrid mechanisms now, in fact,
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as it began to do in 2007,
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here just
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to such an irony of fate, because in 2007, I
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believe that the West
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slept through the beginning of the actual Great
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confrontation between Russia and NATO, when Putin
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came to Munich and actually announced
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that he not against returning to the
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Warsaw so-called peace
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treaty, where it affects part of the year and
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he started to do it. Let's be
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honest, he started to influence informationally,
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he started to influence through sabotage in the
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Cyber ​​business. Or in the Cyber ​​of this
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war, he started poisoning people on the
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territory of the
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Western countries
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and had absolutely no
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answer. That is, all the mechanisms
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used by the West, they flew away from it.
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Well, I mean, first of all, the sanctions,
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you remember that the sanctions were not
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enough for when Putin actually
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in Well, we are talking about Putin because when
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Medvedev was then the president and then
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he was the prime minister, anyway, according to
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various sources, Putin played a decisive role in
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making certain decisions, and in
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2008, when the actual Russian troops almost
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did not reach
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Tbilisi, the world did not give any
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harsh response to this, because of that, the year 2014 was given
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with Crimea because of that I
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got Then after Crimea again I did
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n't
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give any such a
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tough tough response to Russia
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got a full-scale war and If
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now the Western world will also be
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dismissive of what is
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happening in Ukraine in the Russian language Well, they will
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have a war and on the territory of NATO countries, well,
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what do you think about the new proposals of the
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Speaker of the House of Representatives, Johnson,
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who in an interview yesterday stated that, well, in the
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comments, let's face it, it
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was not an interview. The
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aid package requested by the White
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House for Ukraine will be modified
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either in the form of a loan or in the form of a
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loan lease, which means that this is the change in
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the format. Mr. Johnson is spinning like a young man on a
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frying pan. On the
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other hand, he is
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cornered by Trump and by this group of such
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aggressive Trumpists who
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can also raise questions about his
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re-election. In fact, he
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is trying to play a certain role
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assigned to him in the election
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campaign. Everyone perfectly understands what is
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happening in the House of Representatives.
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Trump's group is simply swaying everything that proposed by the
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White House, it is
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called Baba Yaga against, that is, everything that the
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White House will propose
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will be
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rejected a priori and will not be
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voted on. I really hope that
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there will still be opportunities and
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arguments, and one of these opportunities is
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actually
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introducing this bill through the votes of the House of
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Representatives
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without Speaker of the House of
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Representatives, the only thing that bothers me. Well, I do
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n't understand why this was taken up only
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now. Today is the last day. If
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all these votes are not
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collected in Washington by today, by the evening, then we will go to another round
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in two weeks, when it is possible.
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to do because there
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are vacations again and again opportunities to
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drag out this process.
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I think that in this case
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we will still convince Well, I think we I
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Under the word we
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I am all here in a bunch and analysts and
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journalists and the American
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American establishment that we let's
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still convince the House
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of Representatives to do as we need.
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As for the loan lease, you remember that at one
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time the law on
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loan lease was voted on. It was very
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pathetically sold in political
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circles. It was very pathetically sold in the
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media, but it did not work because there
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were opportunities for it. to really
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give military aid to Ukraine and then
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not pay for it, because it assumes that the
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country that receives it then either returns
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the weapons that were given or
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compensates for the weapons that were given to it,
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from the point of view of some
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rationality, it is possible and it is good that
00:25:16
this did not happen procedures are involved, but now the
00:25:21
speed of
00:25:25
the transfer of weapons plays a big role, and accordingly,
00:25:28
if there really is no other way out, then
00:25:32
lendlease or renting
00:25:37
some types of weapons. I think that this
00:25:40
can also be one of the
00:25:42
options, you know. I am actually very
00:25:46
interested. Although I did not plan to discuss
00:25:48
this topic, but maybe within a
00:25:50
few
00:25:51
minutes. Now, according to the latest polls,
00:25:55
Biden is ahead of Trump by one
00:25:58
point. Why, what happened? What did Trump do
00:26:02
wrong? What went wrong?
00:26:09
all those points
00:26:13
that he will use during the
00:26:14
election campaigns after Ukraine, the issue of
00:26:19
Ukraine and the issue of support for this
00:26:22
draft law, we were talking about the issue of
00:26:26
reproductive health.
00:26:42
as three, that is, he will address this
00:26:45
social problem in order to
00:26:47
attract the female
00:26:50
population of America to go vote for
00:26:53
Biden. And actually judging by the fact that his
00:26:57
rating has started to increase,
00:27:00
this topic concerns Americans, it is
00:27:04
not clear to us, it is not clear to Ukrainians, but
00:27:08
nevertheless, this is just one of those points
00:27:12
what can Biden's team operate with
00:27:17
during the election campaign,
00:27:19
and then, as for Trump's mistakes,
00:27:23
Trump has frozen, that is, he now has a crisis of
00:27:28
growth, as they
00:27:30
say, he has caught this electoral
00:27:36
ceiling and it is now very difficult for him to
00:27:39
move anywhere because he already has all his
00:27:42
arguments and all he voiced his messages
00:27:46
even during the primaries and in this
00:27:51
case it will be very difficult for him to build
00:27:54
up just to break through this ceiling and to
00:27:58
build up the number of his supporters,
00:28:01
so when there are people there who are already burying Biden in the pubic area with such
00:28:06
cries
00:28:07
and saying that
00:28:10
Trump will win for sure, I say Wait,
00:28:14
take your time, after all, the chances of both
00:28:18
candidates are 50/50, it looks like this, and everything
00:28:23
really depends on what they will be, what
00:28:27
will be the motivation, exactly when the
00:28:30
elections will begin. I will also remind you that
00:28:34
during the elections, when Trump won in
00:28:38
2016, Hillary Clinton scored a
00:28:41
greater number of votes, but according to the votes
00:28:45
of voters, she lost to Trump, there may
00:28:48
be such a situation
00:28:51
when there
00:28:54
are more votes for a certain candidate,
00:28:56
however, this does
00:28:58
not
00:29:00
guarantee victory in this case, the
00:29:04
system is very complicated for us, it is also very
00:29:06
difficult to understand American elections, it is
00:29:09
generally very
00:29:12
interesting interesting phenomenon of 2005 I traveled with
00:29:17
one of the candidates in the primaries until
00:29:21
now I remember the unforgettable impressions
00:29:23
I will tell you Mr. Viktor thank you
00:29:26
very much for taking the time to
00:29:28
contact us Thank you very interesting it turned out
00:29:31
thank you [
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music]
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[music]
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