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начало - эфир с Майклом Наки
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зачем Невзорову Украинское гражданство
4:46
есть ли вклад Невзорова в нынешнее 'положение дел' в РФ?
7:03
на каком уровне власти заводят договорённости о профессиональной свободе журналиста?
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о претензиях к Невзорову
12:57
про самолёт с Лавровым
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почему эксперты не предвидели, как от деклараций политика Путина перейдёт к практикам?
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про признание в ненависти к Украине (и всему миру) от Медведева
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о нравах и нормах поведения в Кремле
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искренние дураки/или осознанные подлецы: кто есть кто в 'кремлёвском коллективе'?
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про будущее кремлёвских предводителей
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об 'успехах' патриотической пропаганды
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отношение к словам: высокочувствительное /или абсолютная Свобода Слова
32:21
как СЛОВА ненависти переродились в реальность жизни
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как в тоталитарных государствах подменяют любовь на страх
35:28
в чём оптимистичность обозначения векторов грядущего ужесточения порядков в стране
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поживёт ли ещё страна /или ядерные бомбардировки - ?
40:48
по поводу поведения Европы и коллективного Запада
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popular politics channel this is our
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show honestly today we have on
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air Alexander Nevzorov who
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has been discussed quite actively for the last two weeks
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and in general who has been
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following Russian politics for quite some time from different positions
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today he is our
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guest hello Alexander Glebovich and
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here is still unknown who is visiting
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Totosh today in Sorsk Wednesday, I want to introduce you to the
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wonderful program that we are having
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today on unseen Wednesdays and the
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wonderful Michael Naki, by the way, Michael,
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so as not to put all this off
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for a long time, please send me
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a photo and a
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complete full
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description of yourself by name, surname, patronymic,
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and other things for this Italian
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journalistic ID,
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which for everyone who is wanted
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on the run under arrest, I will probably
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still be able to do it, I have already done it for many,
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so let's go
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Alexander, thank you very much for the offer,
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but by and large I I
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don’t consider myself a journalist, why don’t I have an Italian
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ID, and I also don’t understand this, and
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by the way, I’m not so European, but the
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European genre has many questions associated with it that you’ve
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probably received over these
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two weeks, and since you’re part of the
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news agenda, not only its analyst,
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but also and the immediate part up to 1, the
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first part of our joint collab with you,
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as they say on the Internet,
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I mean, I would like to devote specifically to the
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interaction with your person as an information
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field and therefore the actual question 2
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concerning your Ukrainian
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citizenship, firstly, does it exist, and
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secondly, why in the first place? in general, you
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started this, this question often comes from
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people on the Ukrainian side who are
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following all this, including those
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on the Russian side,
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respectively, and from the positional environment,
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in general, this whole story now, what is the
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meaning of it?
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you know, everyone explains to me that there are
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fierce debates going on until that May, is this
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an idea or this idea of ​​Lensky and the
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leadership of Ukraine, to which I answer
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fine, let it be controversial, let there remain at
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least some figures of silence, some
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intrigues in today’s absolutely
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transparent Japan to us in the world, what concerns
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why I need this, probably
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probably in order to
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somehow document my
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love and my admiration for
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Ukraine, without which probably none of
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us can live now, but that’s all, let’s say this is how I
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wanted to live, as you can see, it’s
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wavy, it has it in it, it carries it there is a
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lot of sin for them, but even suppose
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if for some reason it doesn’t happen, I wo
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n’t be involved in this everyday matter and
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in any case, well, it’s
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impossible to be offended by Ukraine, so in any
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case, I won’t abandon Ukraine, so I think
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that we can put all the stops on this
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Part 2 first of me, to be honest,
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I have an official document, well, I
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suppose now now, but it would be if there were
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no carriages, I’m not an example of what is
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happening there in their lawsuit in reality in their bowels
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and I know just about no, as always,
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mad passions but you understand the
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indignation of a part of Ukrainian society
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about this whole process,
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no, I’m not very interested, to be honest, in
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indignation because I’m generally
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very little interested in who
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thinks and says about me, I never
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read anything, I’m never interested in anything, not
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scolding, critics, or praise To be
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honest, for
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30-odd years I
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had to go through everything and developed
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such a powerful idiosyncrasy of
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blasphemy and slander to praise and admiration
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and a curse that it has long
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become uninteresting to me, at best I’m interested in the
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opinion of some really
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big-caliber figures from which
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depend on some decisions, she may
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be curious to me, and who doesn’t always
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understand, but at the same time, there are not just
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some rumors or discussions, there are
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some facts of your biography that
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leave some people with questions, I
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will not duplicate these questions, what do you
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already in these two weeks they
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have been answered very often, in particular when they imagine
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that you were Putin’s confidant in
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2012, you say that you were
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charged with fascism, that you were infected with the
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plague of fascism and you got over it and this
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strengthened you from the point of view of a person
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who it is fascism that can destroy, but
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I would like to ask you, in your opinion, did
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you make a contribution to this fascism, that is, do
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you feel some part of the
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responsibility for the formation of this
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regime and what role do you attribute to yourself in this,
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you know, probably a rather big role,
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probably
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I would be entitled to if
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I had a slightly different design
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to experience
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responsibility, but in general I’m
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very bad with responsibility and I believed
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that those terrible experiments that I carried out
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would end somehow harmlessly,
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no one thinks that this will ever
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burn through the walls of the flask and the walls of the cake and
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will begin to flow
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and go beyond the laboratory and generally
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dull the world, I didn’t imagine this,
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of course, I don’t need to completely assign the
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main role in everything to me, but at one
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time I’m what is called constructing,
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depending on how it all lives, I generally
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invested
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seriously, I assumed that we are all of
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humanity and Russia and its neighbors, we were all
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fed a long time ago and about the chambers with vaccines that
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any real fascism, practical
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fascism, the one that Putin demonstrates today
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will be absolutely unrealistic staff,
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a kind of laboratory culture that is
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very interesting to look at and
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which is very interesting to work with but
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as always, as always, fascism outwitted
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us all and was released, and
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in this context, the question that many
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have is how long did your
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relationship with him last
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because even when a criminal case was opened against you
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for disinformation, this
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on your colleague does not mean
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disinformation in criminal cases in the affairs behind him,
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you wrote that you had some kind of
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open or unspoken agreement with
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government officials, what it looked like
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and how it ended,
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no, the agreement was simple, that I don’t
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collect their filthy regime, they don’t poke their
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nose into my work and
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no one dares not something like
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commanding but even hissing in my direction,
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this agreement was, I must
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say, it was observed for quite a long time, either
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because they didn’t care
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or because they had other
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problems and I felt as you
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remember from the tone and exceptional
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audacity of the naysayers the world is extremely
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comfortable and I believed that it would always be like this,
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but I must say that even after the
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initiation of a criminal case, the trade did not
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stop and they promised to close the case,
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transfer everything to administration,
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melt down a harmless fine there, like
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30,000, but I had very strict
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conditions and explained that to me I personally don’t need this
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and I’m the only one who then needs to
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cancel this for everyone big analyze
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this idiotic article and
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frees everyone this seemed to them
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probably completely unbearable and
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unbearable at what level this is such an
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interaction
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at which he indicated to you and
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then he took it and told you everything now right now,
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why do you
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still think it’s important, well, that is, not there, without knowing,
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not to indicate a specific
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presidential administration or a specific
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person in conditions when you have actually
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already severed relations with them and even
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accordingly asked to enter into
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Ukrainian citizenship, clearly expressing
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your position that is, is this an attempt
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to save contacts or is there a reverse
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bridge, if not this is not an attempt to
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save contacts, this is a
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reluctance to do, firstly, advertising to these
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people, and secondly, a reluctance
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to remember their worldly names at all,
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okay, then let’s move on
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directly, I think everyone there found
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answers to those questions which were
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of interest among our viewers,
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by the way, you can continue asking them
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because I can shoot them T-shirt for us
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no yes yes stones can be presented in a row
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for many claims because in
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order to have that wholesale that syllable that
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ability to analyze and stand
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the ability to, well, let’s put it this way To
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carry out the political it was necessary to
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live a very tortuous life and at a very turn an
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unusually rich complex life and a
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life reminiscent of both
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adventure novels and something from the
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life of alchemists, so you
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understand perfectly well that it is useless among
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people who were sterile in the past to look for people who are
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called interesting, experienced and
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combat always when you are dealing with
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some phenomenon you are dealing with its
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history, this story is usually
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not simple, but let’s go back anyway,
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I gave them a simple simple sample there, because the
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only gene is something that can
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ever be blamed and in
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particular for a journalist, this is that he
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was carrying out someone’s
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orders, this is that he was carrying out someone’s
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orders from
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Zhou Kazan, and fortunately in my
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biography this truth is shameful, but
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nowhere is it even that very conversation with
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Berezovsky if you are into him listen to everything, I
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highly recommend listening, you will understand
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that I did only what I
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considered necessary and necessary,
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despite the fact that in general I took a
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significant risk and exposed
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everyone with my decision, I still published
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incriminating evidence when I bought soup, although I had
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already accumulated 50 million in pain there
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promises that never a
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single bad word would be said about him and these 50
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million were already preparing for the fact that
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we have
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some kind of agreement that Vanya
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says that you are
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not overthrowing the regime there, probably this
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implied some kind of presence there
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I know, as a specific topic, something I don’t
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know what exactly was meant, well, this is
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some kind of limitation or
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self-restraint that you
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accordingly went for to be more precise, but I was
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n’t interested, no no, I wasn’t
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interested in practical politics, I
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observed, analyzed, assessed and shared
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my impressions I at that moment not
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when I didn’t lay claim to more, well, that
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is, conditionally, it’s a given, it’s yes, it does
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n’t seem to overlap anything with what
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you would like to do, that is, they
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wanted something, but they don’t go like that
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and vegetables to the point, yes yes, that’s right, I always
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I only do what I want myself and
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here we come to a more general
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picture, moving a little away from specifically
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your staff, as it seems to you, why
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under the need for frantic ones, if you knew how I feel about
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my staff, Michael, if you knew how
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tired I am of my personal during this time and
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how tired I am in general, I wish I could talk
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about me when much more
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caliber major events are happening, look at
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Lavrov’s laurels, he is now proudly
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showing your striped
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ass once again, and I understand that
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Lavrov would have flogged him, as you know,
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Lavrov’s plane was not allowed in by some- then very
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small countries,
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those countries that previously would not have dared to
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even blow in the direction of Russia when
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he was still alive and his extraordinary power
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and its great influence but laurels and
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this ban was also presented as something
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very significant, I understand there if
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Biden had chosen then Lavrov would have the right
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to decide that he’s about three years old, this ass
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that flogged I’m going to go wash it won’t be, but there
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you’re just tiny
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tiny formations he was sent to hell
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and it’s really this brave,
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brave bugs and
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this is a very significant thing in the fundamentally
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changing attitude towards Russia if It’s
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not this charade, it’s not this mystery, whether
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Russia has nuclear weapons or whether it does
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n’t or is not in the right condition, then
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we’ve probably already seen a lot of
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figures swinging in loops
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in different places on the planet and countries
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called Russia, well, these countries
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are considered bedbugs by the Kremlin Apparently, they
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believed that they couldn’t do anything there,
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and I’m right, yes, yes,
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absolutely faithful and without the slightest
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desire to offend these countries, but somehow you yourself
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understand that politically they and
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geopolitically they always
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seemed to the Kremlin to be some kind of
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absurdity and trifle and this is part of
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this big Kremlin fascism,
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this chauvinism of theirs, I would even say
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here the question that seems to me to be key here
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is the question why, in fact, your
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gift of foresight or conducting and
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analytics and many others did not foresee
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the fact that Russia and the Russian state are
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at the head which Vladimir Putin they
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will move on not just to a
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fascist metaphor but to real fascist
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actions, that is, that they will become the
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very acid that will break the flask and
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actually try to flood the whole
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world with itself why why didn’t we see this
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why did this happen no about
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necessary about the fact that
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this regime will start a war over the fact
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that all these sublimations of patriotic
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feelings, all these immortal regiments, all this
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endless
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antics with weapons with icons with relics with
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Alexander Aminevsky will
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certainly lead to real hundreds of
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thousands of corpses, I always said and I, as you
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remember, there, for six months at the beginning of
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the war, I even learned to calculate a fairly
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accurate number of deaths in 1 week
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of this war, I
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always said and said that this is a
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certain inevitability of everything that the
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Russian government does, but knowing to
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what extent, in general, all the people who
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make up the
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Kremlin elite, how
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microscopic they are and how insignificant they are,
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that’s what it’s called humanly, how much
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it’s not a figure, well, I was wrong, it seemed to me
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that their pettiness was an excellent insurance
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against real practical combat
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fascism, that they would never dare to do
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what the figures
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of the past dared to do, because history is a very
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very complex and very vile thing
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now thanks to what happened, we
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have the opportunity to probably overestimate
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almost all the figures of history, we
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see what nonentities one can be and
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at the same time how much harm can be done to the world and
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create a threat to the entire civilization,
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now we see it that you don’t have to be
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any exceptionally gifted
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superhumans you don’t have to be anyone with the
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usual series, they are stupid and cowardly,
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and yet flood this land
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with blood.
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One of these characters completely
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fits your descriptions, this is
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Dmitry Medvedev, who with the beginning of the war
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became not just a hawk, but as if, well,
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one of the as well as to say one of the most
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militant people in the composition of the current
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political elite, I use the word or you here
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rather as a designation for no one in the
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circle of those close to Putin, and every
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time he manages to take a new height than
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attracts attention, but before
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the iPhone and Obama, it means, well, what kind of
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progress is there towards the West and
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was generally considered by many people, including from the
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liberal circle, like that, but it
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was good under Medvedev, which means
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there was a calm president about the war with
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Georgia, they unusually forgot about it,
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shifting it to Putin doesn’t mean, but
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nevertheless, he was perceived as such, it
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means a more modern, more
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advanced, more pro-Western politician and
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here he turned out to be a man who is thirsty for
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blood and
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therefore writes rather strange
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essays in a telegram that was blocked before me
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about what kind of transformation this is,
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does it make sense at all to pay us
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attention to Dmitry Medvedev, does it make
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sense, of course, that
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confession of hatred for Ukraine is the camera of the
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civilization that brought down for its
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readers, viewers, Medvedev, this is a very
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significant thing,
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but I have it myself, but it seems to be
00:19:25
packed with wild fear and hatred and
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explanations that all Russian
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aggression, occupation, invasion of Ukraine
00:19:34
is all just fear and hatred, that underneath
00:19:39
this there is not only
00:19:41
high politics, but there is not even ordinary
00:19:44
politics, and all this is just
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ordinary irrational hatred,
00:19:50
delusions of persecution, delusions of
00:19:52
grandeur, delusions of persecution in
00:19:55
what sense in the sense that they are afraid
00:19:58
that,
00:20:01
having felt great in the
00:20:04
neighborhood of Russia, the revolution will
00:20:07
sooner or later cross borders and the
00:20:10
difference in ways of life the difference way of life, the
00:20:14
difference in living standards will not go
00:20:17
unnoticed by Russians and this revolution
00:20:20
will be accepted, but I think that we
00:20:26
are now mistaken about the bear, he is absolutely incapable of
00:20:29
any of the strong feelings that he
00:20:31
describes, he simply does
00:20:34
not dare to have them in the Kremlin, this is
00:20:38
not It’s customary to have some kind of
00:20:40
personal feelings of your own because a lackey of any
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rank and in any rank can only
00:20:47
take out the masters’ pot and let everyone
00:20:51
smell it, whatever the greatest has today,
00:20:55
but this is not his chair, no varnishes there, no one is
00:21:00
allowed to thrust the tray to the press and
00:21:03
the light no one
00:21:06
has the right to an opinion, has the right only
00:21:09
to relay it, for example, there is
00:21:11
Valentina Matvienko’s baths and
00:21:13
knew very well, and you can say whatever you want about
00:21:16
her, but the fact that she is not a
00:21:18
clinical fool is absolutely certain, and
00:21:21
yet it especially comes out in
00:21:24
blue eye tells the world and Russia
00:21:27
that Ukraine, don’t you see, there is a
00:21:30
civil war going on, this is too
00:21:33
degenerative nonsense for Valentina, that
00:21:36
is, it is clear that she is not with her
00:21:38
potty, even though this is for a press conference and she is
00:21:42
not splashing her own into the astonished eyes of the
00:21:47
journalists of the exhibitors
00:21:49
present there, this is again broadcasts of
00:21:52
Brian and milking details in the brain of the sides of the
00:21:56
security officer’s head in this sense,
00:21:59
it’s probably even worse for me, at least
00:22:00
because a sincere fool, no matter what
00:22:04
he does, seems to
00:22:06
us to be harmless than a conscious creep
00:22:09
who understands that he is saying Ksyusha
00:22:11
stupid things, repeating just things in which
00:22:14
he himself does not believe and which, but he understands
00:22:17
that it makes no sense, how do you feel
00:22:19
about the arrangement of these forces and which
00:22:23
one of them is there in this everyone means
00:22:26
Putin’s entourage who
00:22:29
but understand there is a fabulous sweetness
00:22:33
and ease in being scoundrel and
00:22:37
loki this is an
00:22:39
unusually comfortable state this is an
00:22:43
unusually easy state that
00:22:46
removes from a person as it seems to this
00:22:50
person this character relieves
00:22:53
absolutely all responsibility he is what is
00:22:56
called execution he carries out
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orders he follows orders he
00:23:02
broadcasts the
00:23:03
owner’s speech they all hope for what is
00:23:07
probably
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probably on the blind performers and the
00:23:15
voiceless, intimidated will not be assigned
00:23:19
the responsibility that could and
00:23:22
should be assigned will not be assigned to
00:23:25
them by those tribunals that they do not
00:23:28
deserve, they are mistaken, they are very gray,
00:23:31
they know very little
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history and
00:23:36
natural sciences and do not understand that
00:23:40
cause-and-effect relationships are
00:23:42
merciless that they will be established and
00:23:44
believe me, believe me, the tribunal in The
00:23:48
Hague will not be interested in what
00:23:51
motivated Medvedev by carrying this
00:23:53
nonsense, this propaganda of hatred,
00:23:59
this monstrous in its bloodthirstiness
00:24:03
essence that he
00:24:07
saw, they now have big
00:24:10
problems, where can such reactions come from, we can
00:24:13
look for the earthly roots in this statement by
00:24:16
Medvedev we can see that his
00:24:19
child, his son, was quickly kicked out of
00:24:22
America and he was deprived of his study visa,
00:24:25
maybe, but
00:24:28
I don’t think that everything is so simple, I don’t think
00:24:31
that dimon is really capable of
00:24:33
independent sincere feelings, I
00:24:36
think that this is generally
00:24:38
the registrar of that the panic that is
00:24:41
currently happening in the Kremlin, I
00:24:44
sent them howling over the grave in the morning, patriotism
00:24:49
yes yes yes, and just yes I’ll just
00:24:52
come back here, which is
00:24:53
just interesting how you see their
00:24:55
future future because on the one
00:24:57
hand they say that everything is great for them
00:24:59
and acts as if everything is super, that is,
00:25:01
further after their words, yes, there is such a
00:25:04
mutual responsibility there, either gaga or
00:25:06
it means Russia in its current form will survive and
00:25:08
will continue, and there, regardless
00:25:10
of whether they really kicked out from and to
00:25:11
the bear or didn’t kick out there, it’s
00:25:12
not yet clear, but anyway It is no less obvious that
00:25:16
they will not be able to continue to live on
00:25:17
these two chairs on which they lived
00:25:19
before and there is real estate in Europe,
00:25:21
while the harsh patriotism broadcast from
00:25:24
their mouths in Russia is what awaits them and
00:25:27
what they are counting on, that this is really what it is
00:25:29
in Russia will be able to
00:25:31
fool everyone, bribe all Europeans,
00:25:33
means occupying territories,
00:25:34
continue to exist as it existed
00:25:36
as you see in their opinion,
00:25:39
well, since they are usually and
00:25:44
well, almost
00:25:46
one hundred percent amazingly stupid, I
00:25:50
believe that they have a certain
00:25:52
optimism about their fate and
00:25:55
prospects, we understand that optimism is
00:25:58
completely inappropriate and
00:26:00
even how to discuss this probably
00:26:04
somehow, but a little tactlessly, I
00:26:08
still want to get myself back, besides, I
00:26:10
spent, failed, spent when
00:26:13
patriotic propaganda and they
00:26:16
admitted it themselves, but they are the reasons for the failure of
00:26:19
their critical propaganda because,
00:26:22
well, what is patriotic propaganda
00:26:24
this is what really makes real
00:26:28
people with a bunch of grenades throw themselves under a
00:26:31
tank criticism of the sticky songs Uncle Vova you and
00:26:36
I walking around with flags this is not
00:26:38
patriotism this is the
00:26:41
theatrical side that does not require
00:26:43
any self-sacrifice does not
00:26:47
even require any discomfort from the
00:26:50
performer this is 3 that’s the one
00:26:53
real patriotism that drives
00:26:56
living people from grenades under tanks is
00:26:59
absolutely absent,
00:27:02
we know that in the updated Putin’s
00:27:05
constitution, remember there is such a
00:27:07
line that in accordance with the behests of the
00:27:10
great ancestors, yes yes yes there, refer
00:27:13
qualitatively to something very ancient, but not
00:27:15
that it is very ancient, so I imagine let's say
00:27:19
that today being guided by the behests of
00:27:22
ancestors for the formation and organization
00:27:26
of today's life is the same as
00:27:29
using but not a sign of instructions for
00:27:31
drones in a collider written by a
00:27:35
madman of the 17th century who had never
00:27:38
seen a collider and did not even suspect
00:27:41
its existence,
00:27:42
but I also think that in this case Russia
00:27:47
oddly enough,
00:27:49
it is in a very advanced position that
00:27:53
what is called patriotism as a
00:27:56
phenomenon in general and a hare in the world is very
00:28:01
currently
00:28:03
ineffective,
00:28:05
decrepit but a
00:28:08
passing concept, it can worsen and
00:28:12
may still be
00:28:14
alive and live a very full life in those
00:28:17
countries that are fighting for their
00:28:21
freedom for their way of life for their own comfort in a very
00:28:25
high sense of the word, but
00:28:29
Russia shows that so-called
00:28:32
patriotism is absolutely over, at
00:28:35
least in it, it may well
00:28:38
be that it is Russia that shows that yes,
00:28:41
indeed, guys,
00:28:44
we will have to say goodbye to this phenomenon as such
00:28:46
because we see that over the course of 20
00:28:49
years
00:28:50
Russia, not Russia, had the opportunity to
00:28:53
go and see and compare, and
00:28:57
it was not in vain, all of this
00:29:00
echoes wildly to everyone, the ugliness of the
00:29:04
country’s structure, poverty, backwardness, wretchedness,
00:29:08
hopelessness and the enormous misfortune of
00:29:12
millions of people who do not live, but
00:29:15
it is impossible for a sane to love a person to
00:29:18
love ugliness and the basis of
00:29:22
patriotism should be, as I understand by
00:29:25
their logic, first of all love, that is,
00:29:28
there are
00:29:29
pathological characters, there are perverts
00:29:32
who experience sexual passion for the
00:29:35
legless or who are madly in love with
00:29:39
pipes infested with maggots or who
00:29:43
prefer blind slanted eyes, but
00:29:48
these are perverts and
00:29:50
this
00:29:52
passion for ugliness, this is the ability to
00:29:56
love,
00:29:58
dirty, unwashed,
00:30:01
deadly, dying, rotting, this
00:30:04
pathology and all sorts of talk that whatever
00:30:07
it is, it knows that the homeland and
00:30:10
prayer, but by mercy, if the mother is crazy,
00:30:14
strangles the children, sets fire to the curtains, shits on the
00:30:18
table, but with her and they politely
00:30:22
send her to the appropriate institution
00:30:25
there, like a nursing home, well, people su
00:30:30
thing, be it the absence but you vote,
00:30:33
I wouldn’t call them freaks, unlike those
00:30:35
who do everything to ensure that these
00:30:37
mutilations I, I say, store his food
00:30:39
kind of no michael michael be correct
00:30:42
please then I was talking exclusively
00:30:44
about the fact that there are
00:30:46
pathologies known in psychiatry when
00:30:50
sexual feelings or other other feelings
00:30:54
arise only at the sight of mutilation
00:30:57
let’s admit alpha 2 hd creature before
00:31:01
absolutely right I didn’t call people without
00:31:03
legs freaks calm down ok well you know
00:31:09
now it’s like that say the time when
00:31:11
words are really very
00:31:14
sharp perceived by many and it’s even great
00:31:16
for me very dear to be very scrupulous about
00:31:19
words and these are the people
00:31:22
who are fulfilled no I no don’t
00:31:24
like you me no I don’t like
00:31:26
for me my native environment is the environment
00:31:30
absolute freedom of expression friend in
00:31:33
relation to a friend, this is an environment when you don’t have to
00:31:37
think about every word you say, this is an environment of
00:31:40
harshness, the primacy of
00:31:43
cheerful mockery, this is an environment of
00:31:45
mockery and laughter, this is an environment rather
00:31:50
like this ruble easy once to when nothing is
00:31:52
holding me back, this whole
00:31:55
tolerance is the need to weigh
00:31:59
each of your expressions in a pharmaceutical way.
00:32:02
I have a little bit of phraseology,
00:32:05
I obey all the rules, of course,
00:32:08
because this rule is not someone’s
00:32:10
will, but I’m much more comfortable where there is a
00:32:14
direct, tough conversation using
00:32:17
any absolutely terminal and theater,
00:32:22
the only thing was that I walked around simply
00:32:24
because the topic is interesting and you know
00:32:26
many treated it the same way, and
00:32:29
many even laughed at
00:32:31
these endless shows on federal
00:32:32
channels, which means laughing at the fact that here
00:32:35
they are again talking about Yarosh’s business card
00:32:37
about hatred of Ukraine and everything
00:32:39
else, and somehow you know many
00:32:41
journalists are like in a tower of ivory
00:32:42
laughed at this, I think that well, it’s
00:32:45
that words words won’t really affect anything,
00:32:48
but now we see that literally 8 years,
00:32:51
literally with words in a hotel, cotton wool rhetoric of
00:32:53
hatred has managed to overgrow a large
00:32:55
number of people who absolutely
00:32:57
sincerely, even if on their sofas, hate
00:32:59
Ukraine and wish the people of Ukraine death, you
00:33:03
understand, such shows could be such
00:33:06
shows would have the right to exist if
00:33:09
nearby
00:33:10
on a neighboring channel or on the broadcast network an
00:33:14
hour later there was a show with diametrically
00:33:18
opposite content the problem of
00:33:21
Russian propaganda is not that it is
00:33:23
disgusting, bloodthirsty, the problem is
00:33:26
that it is nothing is not balanced and the so-
00:33:30
called viewer is deprived of any
00:33:32
freedom of choice, although to be honest,
00:33:37
when I talk about freedom of speech and
00:33:42
free harsh speech, I’m not talking about the
00:33:45
right
00:33:47
to promote murder or
00:33:50
rape, I’m talking
00:33:51
about the right to
00:33:54
broadcast hatred towards nations or
00:33:58
some people I’m just for the
00:34:01
ease and harshness of all kinds of expressions and
00:34:05
not at all for
00:34:07
the ability to
00:34:10
broadcast and the ability to
00:34:12
broadcast the anger of hatred, fascist, you
00:34:16
see, nuances are appearing on freedom of
00:34:18
speech, perhaps I hope when all this is
00:34:20
over right here now, what’s
00:34:22
happening, we’ll be able to talk to you separately about
00:34:24
this topic that interests the
00:34:26
whole world for the last ten years she has been very
00:34:28
grateful, but let us return to the patriotism
00:34:30
that you spoke about and often in the
00:34:32
absence of love in the absence of
00:34:34
patriotism based on love and the
00:34:35
state is totalitarian states,
00:34:37
fascist states, they replace this
00:34:41
love with fear, they begin to intimidate people,
00:34:43
beat them, kill them, and on this they
00:34:46
begin to build, do you expect you are
00:34:49
strengthening this trend in Russia in the
00:34:51
near future, the Iron Curtain there
00:34:52
means even greater mass repression
00:34:55
and everything else because what other
00:34:58
path other than fear do they have left?
00:35:02
I believe that
00:35:04
absolutely yes and this can not even be
00:35:07
discussed that there is such a thing as a
00:35:09
vector as a direction Moreover, as you
00:35:13
yourself understand, well, knowledge of chemistry
00:35:15
obliges us to understand that the combination of
00:35:20
certain elements inevitably entails
00:35:24
one or another reaction, here you don’t
00:35:28
need to be a
00:35:30
prophet, you don’t need to be a
00:35:33
Cassandra in order to predict, yes
00:35:36
indeed all this will happen and the
00:35:40
Iron Curtain will undoubtedly fall
00:35:43
very ugly cut it will have
00:35:46
holes in the form of Masha Zakharov's case so
00:35:49
that she can
00:35:51
penetrate here and there supposedly out of
00:35:54
diplomatic necessity it will all
00:35:57
happen it will all happen all the data all the
00:36:03
needs of the regime indicate that
00:36:07
it will be but by the way this is quite
00:36:09
I would say optimistic
00:36:12
news for us for all, this is a
00:36:15
rigid designation of this vector, this is
00:36:18
very good in a certain sense
00:36:21
of the word, I would even say that this is
00:36:25
one of the most joyful news that
00:36:28
we have received, we have the opportunity to observe,
00:36:32
explain to you why, of course, it is very
00:36:34
interesting why exactly what
00:36:36
will affect the big number of people
00:36:39
will bring them suffering, this is good news for us,
00:36:43
but for about the same reason why this is the
00:36:47
mysterious death of Kovtun, this is also a
00:36:50
very optimistic thing, this means after
00:36:53
all, the old Kremlin security officer has
00:36:56
in his head not only a nuclear flame and
00:37:00
his dreams, not only a warhead, probably he
00:37:02
still won’t decide to take the last
00:37:06
radical steps and he’s thinking about how he should
00:37:10
live further. These are all the measures that
00:37:15
we discussed, which we discussed, which consist
00:37:19
of the probable introduction of martial law
00:37:22
in the confiscation of the possibility of confiscation of the
00:37:27
property of motor vehicles for citizens there,
00:37:30
the possibility of absolutely uncontrolled
00:37:33
violence, power over its population
00:37:36
All these signs of fascism having already completely acquired this,
00:37:41
in a certain sense of the word, are a
00:37:45
very good sign, this is a sign that
00:37:47
Vova may have changed his mind about throwing bombs,
00:37:52
like this story with the new ones,
00:37:55
too, if this is really murder, then
00:37:59
this is an
00:38:02
optimistic message, and this means that I
00:38:04
feel that they will probably have to
00:38:07
scoot their asses around the Hague benches;
00:38:11
they will now remove not only people
00:38:15
who are capable of
00:38:16
seriously telling a lot in detail about their
00:38:19
exploits in Britain, Great Britain,
00:38:22
for example with Litvinenko, but also about all the
00:38:25
other
00:38:28
executors of delicate assignments, because it
00:38:30
is clear that all the
00:38:34
figures of the so-called Russian spring in
00:38:38
the Donbass too probably, too, they probably
00:38:41
should have been waiting for all sorts of bastards
00:38:45
until no one needs their testimony; they,
00:38:48
too, should have generally decorated
00:38:51
the top with daisies and other flowers on the
00:38:55
confessors, and that’s when they
00:38:57
ask me why Girkin,
00:39:00
who says much more harsh
00:39:03
dangerous things, is still there in Russia
00:39:06
to speak than, for example, the same Kara-Murza,
00:39:09
he still walks around whistling in
00:39:12
freedom, but I thought that this was
00:39:14
only due to the fact that his
00:39:17
death from a deep mop in prison
00:39:21
would raise a lot of questions, but what if, for
00:39:24
example, he ate two threads of
00:39:26
kebabs
00:39:28
while holding over the portions if he bursts from beer, then later
00:39:32
Skobeeva will happily show
00:39:35
the shish kebab that the pathologist will take out of him,
00:39:38
his proof
00:39:40
that death was death was generally
00:39:44
natural, that is, we see this
00:39:46
dualism,
00:39:47
we see duality in Vova’s actions, it
00:39:51
seems like he has already burned all the bridges and
00:39:54
are preparing for a nuclear war, but at the same time
00:39:57
he is preparing the country so
00:40:00
that it will still live, but because what lived
00:40:05
in his ideas is the existence
00:40:09
in those fascist concentration camps of disks
00:40:12
that he himself most kindly for
00:40:16
which everyone is preparing and with general
00:40:18
mobilization and
00:40:21
martial law and total surveillance
00:40:25
and schemes with everyone else since
00:40:28
you even moreover, when communicating with the Italian
00:40:31
prime minister, he is literally trying
00:40:33
to blackmail and say, but lift
00:40:35
the sanctions, otherwise we will not unblock the
00:40:38
grain that is in the Ukrainian ports, although
00:40:39
at the same time we are not blocking it,
00:40:41
says Vladimir Putin that is, he
00:40:43
still wants some kind of bridges
00:40:45
to remain there, and here the question is that
00:40:48
besides Putin, now Putin is
00:40:50
probably even more interested in Europe itself
00:40:52
regarding the behavior of this Europe, which seems to be
00:40:55
cyclical in this war, but
00:40:57
what do they mean? here they are all indecisive,
00:40:59
slow, then they do, yes, we all
00:41:01
supply weapons and we decided under
00:41:03
Zelinsky and so on, and then
00:41:05
the conversation starts again, let’s save
00:41:06
Putin’s face, let’s know that
00:41:08
Ukraine will make some concessions,
00:41:10
this cycle has already happened three times, in my
00:41:12
opinion, why is this happening and
00:41:14
can Ukraine, in your opinion, and like the
00:41:17
whole world because the problem is global,
00:41:19
count on the West and on the politicians
00:41:21
who are leading there now?
00:41:24
I think that Ukraine can count
00:41:28
because anyway the opinion of the West is
00:41:32
somehow motley, no matter how fractional, no matter
00:41:35
how painful she wasn’t, she’s still
00:41:38
a verdict on for Russia, it’s not clear what
00:41:42
the West wants here more, does it
00:41:46
really want it to
00:41:49
turn into ruins, this is an eternal threat
00:41:52
to civilization, this is the eternal problem of
00:41:55
humanity from which nothing has ever
00:42:04
happened other than captures, wars, troubles and concentration camps, I mean Russia or does he
00:42:07
really want happiness and freedom for
00:42:10
Ukraine or does he want something else 3 that
00:42:15
is, his own comfort and benefit, but in general
00:42:19
in this situation it’s all the same for Russia
00:42:21
today for Putin’s Russia, by all
00:42:25
means, it won’t be anyway, in any
00:42:29
case, what’s happening is banditry
00:42:33
what is happening is this terrible,
00:42:37
extremely vile crime in I explain to the
00:42:43
French journalists there in your yard, yes,
00:42:45
you understand that if
00:42:48
Russia’s neighbor was France, then now
00:42:56
Ukrainian journalists living far, far away in your place would write about the
00:43:00
new Russian-French war, it is clear
00:43:03
that the Russians are producing nothing
00:43:06
they are not capable of which, unfortunately, not in the
00:43:09
industrial, not in the technical, not in the
00:43:12
scientific sense of the word, she is doomed
00:43:15
only to such a predatory
00:43:18
existence that she is generally
00:43:20
hiding in Perry because we see
00:43:22
that she did not even wait for the
00:43:26
outcome of
00:43:29
her operations of her war but she began to
00:43:34
plunder the territories of Ukraine with such enthusiasm
00:43:37
as if it were actually
00:43:39
grain, this metal, these machines, these
00:43:43
cars and these toilets were the most
00:43:47
important and realistic goal, and Putin’s
00:43:50
policy looks something like this, no, I
00:43:53
think that the ability to see absolute evil
00:43:57
on the way is not to be dislodged inherent in the entire West
00:44:01
collectively, yes, they will pulsate, they will
00:44:04
fluctuate, but there are no
00:44:05
fundamental shifts, for example, from
00:44:09
Ukraine to Putinism,
00:44:12
but it is unclear how long Russia will be able to
00:44:16
continue anything at all, because we
00:44:19
see that now the second wave has begun,
00:44:22
mobilizing this already
00:44:24
frightened from the belly of the men in family
00:44:27
panties that these real soldered
00:44:30
scum who love war and are
00:44:33
eager for
00:44:35
blood have already killed almost everyone, it’s clear that there
00:44:39
will be a third wave of mobilization, it
00:44:41
will be a completely sad story with all
00:44:44
the students, and I can tell you,
00:44:47
dear one, that these shaven mobilized will
00:44:52
never never under any circumstances
00:44:56
be a soldier the maximum he
00:44:59
can do is a jeep frame to stand on the side of the
00:45:02
road, you are here during shelling and
00:45:05
try to hide in the armored vehicles,
00:45:09
screwing in there between the carpets, toilets,
00:45:13
my service and televisions with which the
00:45:16
armored vehicles are clogged inside,
00:45:20
thank you very much, this is how we
00:45:22
got a joint broadcast on popular
00:45:25
politics and in in unsightly environments,
00:45:29
you want to tell me that we have already
00:45:31
exhausted our minutes, okay, but the topic of
00:45:34
the topic is not all exhausted, and the minutes,
00:45:36
unfortunately, yes, but perhaps somehow
00:45:39
we will be able to talk to you and again,
00:45:41
or in any case, you will be sure that
00:45:44
the difficulty will
00:45:45
not Novorossiysk journalist while I
00:45:49
know that the new magazine journalist on the
00:45:52
word of the journalist is already so
00:45:54
discredited all over the world that I am in every possible way
00:45:56
disowning him in an official document
00:45:59
where it will be written that I am
00:46:00
this opportunity will be taken away from me and it will not be
00:46:03
very convenient but thank you very much for
00:46:06
the offer
00:46:07
I will be loving him is a must in mind
00:46:10
thank you very much
00:46:12
thank you and in Ukraine the dragoons are the heroes thank you
00:46:15
very much Alexander Gleb thank
00:46:18
you dear viewers for
00:46:20
watching this broadcast write your opinion
00:46:22
in the comments how do you like this
00:46:24
colab, what do you think about this broadcast and what we
00:46:28
agree with If you don’t agree, no matter what
00:46:30
other questions you ask, it may be useful for us in the future
00:46:32
and don’t forget that
00:46:33
today at 19:00 we will have an evening
00:46:36
broadcast on the popular politics channel where
00:46:38
they moved in Russia and Maria Pevchikh
00:46:40
will close this day for you Michael Laiki was with you
00:46:42
all the best bye
00:46:46
[music]

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Подписывайтесь на telegram Невзорова https://t.me/nevzorovtv Канал- популярная политика https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1vIkC91dAk 🔴 кошельки и счета для желающих сделать вклад в победу над Путинским фашизмом здесь : https://nevzorov.site Биткоин: bc1q6vv3xv9gtvt4hqcqzavsanujvf0u9xjtwnkp9c Эфириум, ВSC и Magic : 0xbC88581CFb40B971cf7704Ea439fd0FFaB65A044 PayPal @lydianevzorova Карта Revolut 4165 9849 2225 2174 LIDIA NEVZOROVA 🔴 Инстаграм: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser 🔴 Телеграм: https://t.me/nevzorovtv   ▪️ Твиттер: https://twitter.com/nevzorovag ▪️ Фейсбук: https://ru-ru.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser ▪️ ВКонтакте: https://vk.com/nevzorovofficial ▪️ Невзоровский Кружок - https://t.me/Nevzoroff ▪️ Л. Невзорова https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser ▪️Невзоров сын: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser среды на радио «Эхо Москвы» 23.02.2022 Украина, Донбасс, война Невзоровские среды 02.03.2022 Откуда взялось слово «спецоперация» и есть ли шанс выжить. 00:00 - начало - эфир с Майклом Наки 01:18 - зачем Невзорову Украинское гражданство 04:46 - есть ли вклад Невзорова в нынешнее 'положение дел' в РФ? 07:03 - на каком уровне власти заводят договорённости о профессиональной свободе журналиста? 09:41 - о претензиях к Невзорову 12:57 - про самолёт с Лавровым 15:04 - почему эксперты не предвидели, как от деклараций политика Путина перейдёт к практикам? 18:26 - про признание в ненависти к Украине (и всему миру) от Медведева 20:23 - о нравах и нормах поведения в Кремле 21:58 - искренние дураки/или осознанные подлецы: кто есть кто в 'кремлёвском коллективе'? 24:50 - про будущее кремлёвских предводителей (- оптимизм не уместен...) 26:07 - об 'успехах' патриотической пропаганды 30:29 - отношение к словам: высокочувствительное /или абсолютная Свобода Слова 32:21 - как СЛОВА ненависти переродились в реальность жизни 34:29 - как в тоталитарных государствах подменяют любовь на страх 35:28 - в чём оптимистичность обозначения векторов грядущего ужесточения порядков в стране 38:58 - поживёт ли ещё страна /или ядерные бомбардировки - ? 40:48 - по поводу поведения Европы и коллективного Запада

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