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Wednesday the Washington Post reported

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on comments from House Majority Leader

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Kevin McCarthy

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in a closed-door conversation last

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spring the post listened to a recording

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in which McCarthy said there's two

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people I think Putin pays the first

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person he mentioned California

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Republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher

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a well-known defender of Russia's

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President the second name mentioned

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then Republican presumptive nominee

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Donald Trump here's how it unfolded

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according to the post transcript

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congressman McCarthy there's there's two

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people I think Putin pays Rohrabacher

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and Trump laughter swear to God Speaker

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Paul Ryan also in the room interjected

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this is an off-the-record laughter no

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leaks laughter all right laughter this

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is how we know we're a real family here

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I spoke earlier with the Washington Post

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reporter who broke the story Adam n to

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send to the recording and how is it

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vetted if you could just shed a little

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bit of light on that yeah so a few of us

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here at the post listened to it

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including some of our reporters that

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cover the leadership to identify the

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voices voices and then we basically

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confirm the voices and as we said in our

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story we quote a person who attended the

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the meeting in question who told us when

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we approached that person about this

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about this information the person

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confirmed that on the record for us that

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that was the exchange well your

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transcript notes the laughter in the

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room but your articles lead calls

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McCarthy's comment a quote politically

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explosive assertion if this was just

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humor behind closed doors what are the

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political implications yeah I mean you

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know we tried not to characterize you

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know whether or not he was joking or not

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frankly from listening repeatedly to the

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audio it's really hard to tell a

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McCarthy when he delivers that key line

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that you quoted about him saying that I

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think there's two people that Putin pays

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here Rohrabacher and Trump that is a

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total deadpan

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he's not trying to sound funny to my

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ears nor to the ears of the other people

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that listen to it and then when there is

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laughter in the room it's not McCarthy

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who's laughing as far as I can tell and

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then he says swear to God so you know I

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really don't know

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McCarthy personally I don't know his

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sense of humor just I think the

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important context to understand here is

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Ryan says basically to everybody in the

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room let's keep this a secret when we

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approached Ryan's office and McCarthy's

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office to ask them about this exchange

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their response was it did not happen

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they denied it they said they were there

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and that it did not happen only once we

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told them that we had listened to a

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recording did they then acknowledge that

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yes indeed it happened and then of

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course that their memories are all

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suddenly came back and it was all just a

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joke right so I think a comparable here

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is that tape that the again the post

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obtained during the campaign of Trump

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when he was talking to Billy Bush you

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know what was this was he serious about

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what he said or was he was that just the

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banter between two guys I think what

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what we see in this tape that we review

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is is it could be banter or it could be

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that he's touching on something that he

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believes but only says in this in this

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sort of a way yeah well this

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conversation happened a day after news

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broke of the Russian hack on the DNC

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help us understand that context yeah I

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think you have to understand also this

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is June 2015

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there isn't the Russians haven't started

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to leak anything yet the Clinton emails

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have not been released to WikiLeaks that

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doesn't happen for another month so it's

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very early for somebody to make a

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statement like this frankly Hillary

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Clinton doesn't make any statements even

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close to this for for for a month or

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longer so for McCarthy to say something

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like this he's really frankly ahead of

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the curve if you will in terms of

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reaching such a making such an

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assessment based on the information that

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was publicly available

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you know at the time Trump was making

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statements that were very positive about

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Putin that was and those statements were

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at odds with McCarthy's public

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statements on Putin for example McCarthy

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was very much a vocal critic of Putin

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and here you had Trump who was defending

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Putin and in fact holding him up and his

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leadership up to praise particularly

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compared to Obama so you know you had

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this basically asymmetry between the way

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Trump talked about Russia and Putin and

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wanting to cooperate with Russia which

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is very much Rohrabacher z' approach

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versus what the Republican leadership in

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this room had been saying for four years

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frankly on Russia they you know Paul

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Ryan McCarthy are very much vocal

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critics of Putin so this is not a an

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issue Russia that the Republican

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leadership and Trump see eye to eye on

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all right out of intrusive the

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Washington Post thank you so much out

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and really appreciate your time thank

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you

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