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good afternoon, we continue the series of our
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videos dedicated to the civil war in
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Russia, today we will move to
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1919, which was very difficult for the young Soviet
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republic, we will talk 1 euro
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in the Western theater of military operations
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about the offensive of Yudenich’s troops on Petrograd
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and both in the spring offensive and
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fear of an offensive with us today
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Gleb Targonsky historian one of the
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co-founders of the revolutionary
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initiative channel that we are facing today
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this topic I hope we will try in its entirety
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where do we start let's
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look at the warring parties who were
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involved in this conflict yes this is a very
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important point matter the fact that it so
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happened that when the
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eighteenth year at the very beginning of the
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eighteenth year in the Urals a
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civil war was already blazing and the
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consequences there was an uprising of the
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Czechoslovak corps and so on our
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places, that is, this is the north-west of
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today's Leningrad region, they
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were relatively peaceful why
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because in the first here after the Brest
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Peace a front line was established from Narva
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to Pskov and in general the Germans did not carry out
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any active actions until the fall of
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18, that is, the Soviet Republic
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received a significant respite in this direction,
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but at the same time the danger and threat of
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Petrograd, the most important industrial
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political military center of the country,
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remained since as a result of the
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territorial changes of the seventeenth and
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eighteenth year on the territory of our country, it
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turns out that the
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borders to Petrograd passed very close, these were the borders of
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independent Gandhi and independent Estonia,
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independent Latvia,
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that is, in general, Petrograd was constantly
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under the threat of the
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attack of enemy armies because the
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histories of Latvia and Finland were far
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from friendly to the Soviet regime and the
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threat of the capture of Petrograd was there all the time
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and therefore
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they kept a whole army in this direction
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and
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here it must be said that the front on the line of
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Pskov and Narva
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was static for the Germans because
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they solved their main problems in the eighteenth
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year in the south, they tried from
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Ukraine pump out all possible resources, they were
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mainly engaged in it, by the way,
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they resisted the
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Germans there and various Soviet forces
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that created buffer states and
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this, by the way, is a topic for another program
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that we will definitely talk about by
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our authors, but in the north-west there was
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approximately calm and
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yes, but again the Germans They didn’t know
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that the Soviet government, of course, and
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later, when it gathers its strength,
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will threaten them, they saw perfectly well
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in the example of Ukraine, in the example of the Donbass,
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that the Soviet government is ready to create
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Soviet republics to fight the Germans with
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the hands of such tow
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states, which are again led by the
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Bolsheviks in basically and
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loyal to the unit, therefore, she decided to
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create, so to speak, a counter buffer in the
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person of two armies, northern and southern,
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of course, in fact, in the eighteenth
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year, the Germans were primarily engaged in the
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First World War
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on the western front of the famous spring
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offensive, which developed
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quite successfully, it must be said and
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various other activities of Germany,
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which of course did not allow them
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to concentrate on Soviet Russia,
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which was not the most priority
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territory for them, but nevertheless, closer
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to the summer of autumn of 18, these armies
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of the White Guards were created, and in
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general the white movement was then
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split into two camps which were
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quite irreconcilable with each other, I
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between the year 18 one camp was oriented
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towards the Entente 2 was oriented towards Germany
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due to the fact that it is nearby era ready to
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help
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if the Entente line, let’s say so, if I may
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say so, which was expressed, for example, by the
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famous General Alekseev was
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that the goal of the whites was
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to leave en masse to the south, that is, all
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volunteers who assure their desire
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to fight against Bolshevism must go
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to the south, such as the capital of the white movement,
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Novocherkassk, where Alekseev himself
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described the situation, that this
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south-eastern corner of
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Russia is an area of ​​​​relative
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calm, there
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is no anarchy, not even a pronounced
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class struggle, except for the coal
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problem section, but we are talking to us
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about the Donbass, where there was serious
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resistance from the
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workers who mainly fought with the
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White Cossacks and White Guards, the goal
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he indicated was the fight for the
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economic salvation of Russia from the Germans
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with the participation of Anglo-American capital,
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that is, note that he is a white general directly
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speaks about capital, but what interests us is
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that despite the fact that the Germans and
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the White Guards in general did not have any
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particularly warm feelings, nevertheless, there was
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one small snag:
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in order to get to these areas that
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were held by the
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Whites in the south, you had to go through various
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red cordons and still not get caught
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it was necessary to find ways to feed
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themselves on this difficult journey, but the
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most important thing is that many of the White Guards
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in spirit by that time either served,
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by the way, sometimes very often in the Red
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troops, or held some positions
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because they were educated people and
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many of them were various engineers,
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various employees of the Soviet machine
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needed their services and broadcast, I left
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my house, my apartment, quite well-fed
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at that time,
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many did not want to sing in Petrograd and Moscow and
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began to look to see if there was anything
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closer, the German
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troops who were standing very close turned out to be closer
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Petrograd, for example, in the Pskov region, and
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just the same German German
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occupation government that
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sat in the Baltic states, she
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decided to also create a northern
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monarchical army, by the way, the Germans and they have those
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White Guard organizations that were
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created precisely by their money,
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using their weapons and
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using instructors, and so on
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they were all monarchical, which is
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interesting, that is, the Entente mainly
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supported the White Guard movements, they were
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oriented primarily towards such a
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bourgeois, but at
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least in appearance democracy, this
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was such a difference, the Germans created
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exclusively about monarchical
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organizations, and if in the south they created
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organizations such as, for example, the
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organization of the Red Astrakhan army
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and so on, which by the way they supplied
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a large amount of weapons and ammunition
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on this occasion, then there was a
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well-known anecdote which
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Sholokhov very conscientiously copied in
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his quiet there not this anecdote with the
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following content when Denikin’s
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officer met Skr Osnovsky, he
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said that the army red
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are likened to prostitutes living on
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German money, but here is the moment that the
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ammunition and weapons that the
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handsome man got very often the
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handsome men gave the same to Denikin
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himself, to which the Krasnov
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officer very wittily remarked well
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if Krasnov is fed by this prostitute
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who lives on German money, then
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Denikin’s army is a code who lives
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with this prostitute who feeds from
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her hands, that is, the situation was extremely
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difficult, it’s good that they remembered about
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literature, I turned a little different
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author, these are poets, machinist
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Anatoly Mariengof, who in his
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price tags described by the way how
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transparent the borders were at that time and it
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was not always so difficult for those who want to
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join the volunteer army in
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opposition to the Soviet regime to get to
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this famous south, it is described
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quite well in one episode how a
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student from Moscow was able to freely
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travel through all of Russia and Ukraine
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without even betraying some kind of legend to himself,
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so at that time he could
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freely in the atmosphere of devastation in the atmosphere of
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different political forces it was possible to
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move, so of course there were
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no iron barriers to the movement of the population on Soviet territory which was controlled by the Soviets and other forces, but
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again it’s one thing to go somewhere far
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to the south leaving your institutions, houses of
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wealth and so on, it’s another thing to
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act in Petrograd,
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preparing the ground for an uprising,
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for example, which would help the advancing
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German White Guard troops, which,
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by the way, actually happened but a
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little later and many White Guard
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volunteers really did not offend the
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territory of the Baltic states to the territory of
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Pskov and there they joined the army the so-
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called northern corps, which was
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created on the initiative of the German
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occupation government on October 10,
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18, it had many names, it
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had the name Russian
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volunteer northern army, Pskov
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corps, northern army, and so on, but
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basically it is usually called the northern
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corps, which began in October
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such guerrilla operations against the
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Red troops in that direction of Pskov
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Narva were quite weak and,
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for example, during these operations they managed to
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capture a significant amount of weapons; they were
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able to partially, let’s say, some
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units of the Red Army, Philip
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Rapier, propagandize well, in particular, the
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defector became the
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Bulatovich corps, which became part of the
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northern corps sensitive lake
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flotilla there was also such an
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operation, the NATO Lap Islands in the
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Pskov lake
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when, well, in fact, the officers of the northern
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corps arrived there, sailed there and
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invited local fishermen to replenish the
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composition in the northern corps, then these fishermen
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created the basis of the foundations on the basis of
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which the famous then appeared the
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Lavsky regiment about which we will
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talk many times is quite a combat
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unit, that is, by the way, very
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often the
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Komi themselves and the white combat
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detachments
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became partly
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staffed by peasants, well, as we would
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say, wealthy peasants,
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partially fists, and so on, which
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were anti-Soviet, by the way,
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but what arguments did
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white use in order to actually
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achieve success among the enemy troops?
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arguments
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there were three options for action; well, the first
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option is by creating a dangerous
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situation
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to pretend that
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further resistance is useless and
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therefore it’s better to come over to our side,
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that is, the units were red on at that moment they were
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not very disciplined,
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they took advantage of this; the second point is that the
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Red troops had many
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commanders who were either former
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tsarist officers who also did not
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sympathize with the Red power and
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mostly went for rations and some kind of
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position, and some of them were directly
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infiltrated enemies of we will also talk about them later,
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these enemies, by the way, at the right
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moment I’ll shoot in the back,
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and the third point, of course, was
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the motivation that look at the Reds, you have a
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very bad spider waiting for you, bad food,
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indeed then the supply of the Red
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Army was very poor, the
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soldiers were very malnourished, violence, as a
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rule, quite worn out uniforms
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greatcoats and here they were told that the
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Germans live in Sydney, they have good
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supplies, they have good uniforms,
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in general, you can’t go wrong by the way,
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many of these soldiers and officers of
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this very northern corps they
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wore German uniforms, that is, for example,
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Beijing films were distributed
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German overcoats were common, and so
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on, although there was the same thing as in such
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semi-partisan formations, there was
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mixed basing, mixed
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weapons, that is, there were German
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rifles, for example Mauser, and at the same time
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Russian cars, and so on, there was
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variety,
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but I would say that German basing
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is a little better than, for example, in the south of
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Russia, when sometimes white volunteers
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were forced to draw their shoulder straps
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with ink, use peasant
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shirts with inappropriate equipment,
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so we can say that the Germans
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supplied their charges well,
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but the third option is motivation
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such motivation can be said
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we will have better supply and
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Indeed, many, especially at
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first, went over to the side of the whites, well, in
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particular, the troops under the command of
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Bulatovich, this was a very valuable
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acquisition because he was a very
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good commander, he was a master of
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guerrilla warfare, a
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brilliant cavalryman, despite the fact that
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it was under Soviet power, and so on
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by the way it was Bulatovich, then he fought the
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Soviet Polish War and, by the way,
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died in a battle with the Germans when Germany did not
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attack Poland, that is, he accepted
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Polish citizenship there, and so on, there
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was enough of a combat commander
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or officers to take the White Guard term,
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otherwise the Lavsky regiment is was one of the most
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combative regiments of the future north-western
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army, which actually proved itself
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such even, I would say, in special operations,
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which we will talk about later, and
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initially, despite the fact that there was
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such a replenishment,
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out of the
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2000 people of this corps, it was still up to thirty
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to forty percent Well, there are different
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sources, these were officers, it was
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mainly an army of officers and this army
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fought quite well in the conditions of a
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guerrilla war in the
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north-west in the Pskov region of Narva, there are
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some separate attacks, the defeat of
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individual red units
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of garrisons, and so on, and the meaning there was some way
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to feel the weakness of the
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red forces in this region, to find a way
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to Petrograd and act together with the
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uprising inside Petrograd, but the
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uprising did not merge a little
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because despite the fact that a
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huge number of different white underground organizations were operating in Petrograd at that time,
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nevertheless they were also split
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because that there were, for example, about the
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Entente organizations that were just
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focused on the fact that it was necessary to
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gradually transport volunteers
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south to Denikin, for example, the same thing, but
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there were German sconces, for example, the organization
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United Great Russia but who loves
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who were waiting for the offensive of the Germans and the
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White Guards together in order to
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the right moment to stab in the back, a
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plan was prepared,
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weapons were prepared, which
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were already placed in safe
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houses, but they
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still did n’t wait for this onset in the early spring,
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winter-spring turns out to be 18-19,
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and why didn’t they wait because
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in as we know in the eighteenth year, at
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the end of the eighteenth year, the
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famous revolution in Germany began and the Germans
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who were counting on this Russian
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corps, the northern corps, would be
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like a striking force that would
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move towards Petrograd in the rearguard,
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German troops should have moved,
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which should not have to carry out the police
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function there was still prescribed by
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its authority to pacify the population,
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but due to the fact that the revolution took place,
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these same White Guards who went
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to fight for a single indivisible Russia, they
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were forced to become the rearguard that
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covered the retreat of the German troops,
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that is, in essence, to fight for the Germans
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because the Reds, taking advantage of the fact that
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the Germans were retreating, they began to move deeper into the
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Russian Pskov
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province,
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to move towards the territory of Estonia and Latvia,
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there is a hope of establishing Soviet
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power there, and these fighters for a single
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indivisible Russia they began began their
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military path as fighters for a single and
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indivisible what do you think he asked the country,
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no, of course, Estonia for the 1st
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indivisible Estonia, which in theory they
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should have hated because
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Estonia came out of this great
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united and indivisible Russia, but
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nevertheless they became part of the Estonian army,
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which by the way at that time caused
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serious discontent the Entente,
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since the Entente perceived the
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northern corps as a direct
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corps that was fighting in the conquered
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German troops and there was an attitude towards it that was
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appropriate,
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but nevertheless, these
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White Guards were very useful to the Estonian army
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because they paid with their lives for the fact
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that Pskov was captured in the first place not
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immediately the Red Army,
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but on the other hand, a hundred and the Estonians were able to
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mobilize their troops
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to move their Soviet borders, and on the
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other hand,
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many of them died in the battles
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for Narva and perhaps played a role in the
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fact that Soviet power in Estonia was
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not established then and the Eid holiday was celebrated here The
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next moment, the White Guards are
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essentially part of the Estonian army,
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but the Estonian government at that time
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was still quite under the
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influence of the Social Democrats, and there
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was such a situation that they did
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n’t really want to fight like Soviet Russia,
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but on the other hand, they wanted to
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because with Tony should
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grow in territory and at their own peril
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and risk, the
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highest military ranks of the Estonian army
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allow these white units to
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continue the guerrilla war and the Estonians
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tried diplomatically to show this
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as the action of some White Guards
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who continue the Soviet war from
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Estonian territory, which the Estonians should not interfere with
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and should not do this as the internal affairs of the
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Russians and in these battles, in fact,
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these remnants
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of the White Guards managed to win several tactical
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victories, and this was used already in the spring of the
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nineteenth year, since
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then General Radian K
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Alexander Pavlovich came to the army
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3 uncle Mikhail Vladimirovich Rodzianko is
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one of the most famous
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Duma leaders and By the way, one of the leaders of the
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provisional government, that is, he
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held a significant post and he comes
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just in February, he takes command of the
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corps, which subsequently
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will be renamed the North-
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Western Army and he
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was a very good general, he knew how to
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manage troops really well,
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he knew how to select personnel, he was
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really for the Soviet regime, a very
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serious enemy, it was also a man of
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considerable charisma and
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we can say that this was the
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subsequent spring
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and then autumn offensive of the north-western army on
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Petrograd and this offensive was not so much
00:20:14
conduct as Yudenich radians, that is,
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it was such good high-class
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generals and officers, the
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meaning of further activities was as
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follows, but many said it might
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be worth disbanding this corps,
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but because it was still quite
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battered in battles, but for the sake of Anko and
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subsequently General Ivanov,
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they considered that it was necessary to launch an
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offensive for what purpose, and firstly at
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this time already the winter of the spring of the nineteenth
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year for the Soviet government does not begin
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very well, we know what is coming
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Kolchak’s army will subsequently
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happen during Denikin’s offensive in
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Ukraine, the Soviet government also suffered a
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number of significant defeats, it started
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in the Finland area, it
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started in the Polish border area, that
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is, hard times were coming and
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Petrograd in in general, despite the fact that you were
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covering the 7th army, it was quite
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defenseless and it was necessary to
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take advantage of this, but first of all there was not enough
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supplies of
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weapons and people, please tell me
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whether there were attempts on the part of various white
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forces to concentrate their efforts and
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coordinate and act in principle
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in a single way plan
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or the contradiction between them was
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so strong that at the beginning of 1919 there
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was no question of any unified coordination plan, despite the fact that until the end of the
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nineteenth year there
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were a number of, let’s say, controversial
00:21:53
issues between Denikin and Kolchak, anyway despite this,
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there was coordination, but coordination,
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you understand, since these forces were located in
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different, let’s say, ends of the country,
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they acted autonomously, these were the most
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promising plans, well, that is,
00:22:08
roughly speaking, we begin the offensive
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with services in April, we begin the
00:22:13
offensive in June and support each other with
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weapons but you understand,
00:22:18
such a
00:22:20
serious coordinate was and was not necessary because the
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Red Army of the Soviet government,
00:22:24
even though these
00:22:27
offensives took place at no time
00:22:29
at the same time, although again within the framework of
00:22:31
one year of the 1st spring-summer campaign, the
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aftermath of the autumn, it was still
00:22:36
very important for the Red Army it’s hard
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because, let’s say, transfer some regiment
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from the Denikin front to the front of
00:22:44
people, they didn’t want people from the Kolchak front to
00:22:47
the front of people, it was very hard, the
00:22:49
troops were exhausted by the road, and the
00:22:52
railways at that time could not cope with
00:22:54
the situation, the percentage of sick locomotives,
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sick cars from the multiplicity of
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rolling stock Road was very strong
00:23:01
and still the Red Army would have experienced
00:23:04
great difficulties from such joint
00:23:06
activities, and now we are moving on
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to the fact that the goal of
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these very white forces in the
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north-west was determined, as General Ivanov wrote, it
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was necessary to undertake a major
00:23:22
operation to prove the expediency of
00:23:24
the existence of Russian units to whom to
00:23:27
prove the expediency first of
00:23:29
all to Estonia because in
00:23:31
Estonia a project was discussed that it is necessary to
00:23:33
disband in general these very Russian
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units are generally expelled from the country because
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they excuse our allowance on
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our territory the
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hated Russians are there why are
00:23:43
they needed? was to show that these
00:23:44
Russians know how to fight and to create a
00:23:46
single and indivisible Estonia
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territorially, for this they
00:23:52
carried out all possible operations and that was just
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energetic guerrilla actions
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and the capture of trophies, for example, in the battles for the Cape, the
00:24:01
dungeon was captured 4 guns, two machine guns, 154
00:24:05
rifles, 360 shells and 14 thousand
00:24:08
rounds of ammunition, which in the conditions of a low-
00:24:10
intensity war was a huge gift for
00:24:13
these same White Guard forces, allowed them to
00:24:16
subsequently occupy, for example, the area
00:24:19
around Narva, the White army
00:24:22
was supposed to grow, but at the expense of whom the
00:24:25
volunteers went to it, of course, until they reach it,
00:24:28
time passes, it is logical that it is necessary to form them from the
00:24:31
local population, that is, to
00:24:33
mobilize; besides, the territory,
00:24:35
for example, around Narva was populated
00:24:37
largely with Finno-Ugric dances of
00:24:40
various nationalities, such as the
00:24:42
Finnanger Balance itself and the Izhorians,
00:24:45
and so on, but the mobilization gave very
00:24:48
modest results, only 40
00:24:50
people
00:24:51
went to serve and moreover, the White Guard
00:24:54
officers frightened them to the frame, so
00:24:56
they specifically said that as indicated in their orders, the
00:24:58
perpetrators are punished according to the laws of the Estonian
00:25:01
army, which turns out they did not have the money
00:25:03
to, for example, hire soldiers
00:25:06
on a paid basis, well, the gratuitous
00:25:09
basis was assumed because, after all,
00:25:11
Estonian Finnish ones are simpler the peasants
00:25:14
were quite prosperous, well, there
00:25:15
was a special economic system close to Petrograd,
00:25:17
and so on, the
00:25:20
peasants were very prosperous, but
00:25:22
they didn’t want to fight for the White and Estonian armies at
00:25:25
all
00:25:26
and mostly shirked from service and had the strength
00:25:30
to go to the villages and
00:25:32
catch healthy people there weren’t enough men
00:25:35
killed to be proud, especially since they probably
00:25:37
could have paid this man to
00:25:38
those who could have drafted them into the white army,
00:25:42
I think that these facts also happened at that
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time, yes, but nevertheless, despite the fact
00:25:48
that the mobilization failed due to what was
00:25:51
received in the first place weapons
00:25:53
have arrived, supplies have already begun, the Entente has begun
00:25:56
providing serious assistance, it has become clear that in the
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spring of
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1919 such a real
00:26:03
strike fist is being created
00:26:04
that can be moved directly to
00:26:07
Petrograd, and the future Minister
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Ivanov, one of the heads of the future
00:26:13
northwestern government,
00:26:15
had a strategic idea,
00:26:18
but not him he simply
00:26:20
formulated one thing, which was the
00:26:22
following: that it was necessary
00:26:25
to carry out a
00:26:28
lightning-fast attack on Petrograd in the spring-summer of the nineteenth year, that is, the
00:26:30
main thing was to move quickly
00:26:32
so that the Reds simply did not have time to
00:26:34
form their shock units, which
00:26:38
would be accompanied by an uprising
00:26:41
of Petrograd there, and he said that in
00:26:43
an uprising will break out in Petrograd, which the
00:26:45
Reds, by the way,
00:26:47
managed to neutralize quite effectively, and then when
00:26:49
Petrograd is taken, there will be an attack
00:26:52
on Pskov and Novgorod,
00:26:53
by the way, this was linked to the successful
00:26:55
performances of Kolchak and Denikin at that
00:26:57
time, that is, it really should
00:26:59
have been
00:27:00
quite connected with each other, but how do
00:27:02
you evaluate this plan from the
00:27:04
strategic point of view of the attack
00:27:06
on Petrograd from the untaken Pskov, we are with him beyond
00:27:09
Novgorod, wasn’t it dangerous
00:27:11
at that time, it was dangerous, and
00:27:14
moreover, the spring and autumn offensive of the
00:27:17
northwestern army was in many ways an
00:27:19
adventure, they had few forces the rebellion was stretched along the
00:27:22
supply line such a very narrow
00:27:24
thread, but here it was really if it was
00:27:27
possible to apply this term blitzkrieg
00:27:30
it was necessary to reach Petrograd as quickly as possible to
00:27:34
take it for what purpose in order to
00:27:36
firstly
00:27:37
capture Kronstadt capture the
00:27:40
Petrograd port to receive supplies from the
00:27:43
Entente and supply and its quantity or, let’s say, its
00:27:47
power, it weighed directly from
00:27:49
military successes, that is, the
00:27:52
Entente constantly hinted to them by the White Guard leader
00:27:54
that they need to demonstrate pace, roughly
00:27:57
speaking, take Gatchina you will get so much,
00:27:59
then weapons, take Petrograd you
00:28:01
will get so much and the threat from the flank from
00:28:04
Pskov it is always cheerful in
00:28:06
the end it will play a cruel joke with the white armies,
00:28:09
but it was really in
00:28:10
many ways an adventure, and by the way, the whitest people
00:28:13
recognized it, but the adventure here, again, is either the
00:28:16
whites actively acting and attacking, or
00:28:19
they will simply simply be disbanded; the
00:28:22
whites will find themselves without money without a means of
00:28:24
subsistence, and that’s the end of the white war in the
00:28:27
north - the west will end, they had no
00:28:29
choice, as it seems to me, the capture of Petrograd,
00:28:31
and not only it seems to me that there are
00:28:33
literary sources about this, the capture of Petrograd
00:28:36
assumed the possibility of the Entente
00:28:37
paying, including with the industrial
00:28:39
potential of the city, which was of a
00:28:42
certain importance, the
00:28:44
economic interest of the whites then
00:28:46
received
00:28:47
factories and quite modernly, there are
00:28:49
many technological opportunities for
00:28:53
further actions, as is natural,
00:28:56
for example, the French capital of the region
00:28:58
was not interested in
00:29:00
getting it, because even before the First World War,
00:29:02
German capital owned a lot, just like
00:29:04
French French capital, which
00:29:07
was not the last vantach van dances, would
00:29:09
not mind
00:29:10
profiting property was nationalized under the
00:29:12
Soviet regime,
00:29:14
although this also had a certain
00:29:16
moment of adventurousness because at that
00:29:18
moment when the closer the white
00:29:22
army approached Petrograd, the clearer it
00:29:26
became that resistance on the part of the
00:29:28
working class of Petrograd would be
00:29:30
organized and very stubborn, and in the
00:29:32
case of this It was also assumed that
00:29:35
Petrograd would be taken,
00:29:37
it was assumed that the factory
00:29:39
equipment would be destroyed and a significant part of the
00:29:42
workers would leave Petrograd,
00:29:44
so it would be possible that factories would have been obtained,
00:29:47
maybe something could not be
00:29:49
destroyed, for sure if the
00:29:51
White offensive had been sudden and really
00:29:54
rapid, but nevertheless, I’m still on
00:29:56
the site it would seem that she had found a way to ruin
00:30:00
this sweet piece of pie for the
00:30:01
world capitalist class,
00:30:04
she would still have found how to respond, but
00:30:06
nevertheless the whites had no choice, either
00:30:09
they disband and remain out of work
00:30:11
and emigrate somewhere else or
00:30:13
start a war and By the way, who was of
00:30:16
great interest there van dancing in white
00:30:18
at that time, France or England,
00:30:20
in fact, France seemed to be of
00:30:24
great interest there, so it turned out
00:30:26
that French help took a very long time and
00:30:29
basically at that time the White Guards
00:30:32
were helped by the British and them at that time
00:30:36
how suddenly it turned out former enemies
00:30:38
loyal allies Finland Estonia Latvia
00:30:41
these were the main forces that
00:30:43
supported the White Guard
00:30:45
offensive we will talk about this later and
00:30:47
I’ll finish with the plan after all the
00:30:49
plan was the next capture of Petrograd
00:30:52
to seize resources and a further
00:30:54
offensive directly on
00:30:58
Pskov to cut the cutting
00:31:01
of Nikolaev railway that
00:31:04
led to Moscow and a further offensive
00:31:06
to meet is already obtained by Denikin’s army,
00:31:08
which was approaching the time of the Moscow
00:31:10
campaign from the south at this time, by the way,
00:31:13
Kolchak’s troops are moving from the east,
00:31:15
helping the north, interventionists from the
00:31:18
Arkhangelsk and Murmansk region are helping the Finn,
00:31:21
and this is really when we are talking about
00:31:23
Soviet power in the eighteenth year,
00:31:25
which was experiencing very serious
00:31:28
difficulties, in fact, in the nineteenth, the
00:31:30
difficulties were much more serious and
00:31:32
the question arose about whether the
00:31:35
Soviet power and the Soviet
00:31:36
government would remain as a government and whether the
00:31:40
Soviet power would remain in our country
00:31:42
or whether it would simply be liquidated, including
00:31:44
gallows, terror and other things. other
00:31:47
white,
00:31:48
let’s say, manifestations of domestic
00:31:49
politics which we are also talking about, well, that is, I
00:31:51
understand that at that time he needed to take a
00:31:54
very important connection, the
00:31:56
Tass road station, but we probably talk about them
00:31:58
later about productions that
00:32:00
inevitably appear here, as in the
00:32:02
future during the Second World War the war
00:32:04
on infrastructure was quite
00:32:07
limited; in general, moving through this
00:32:10
territory militarily had a certain
00:32:13
complexity, and moreover, the White Guards
00:32:16
took advantage of the fact that they were
00:32:18
inferior to the Red Army at that time in
00:32:22
numbers and technical equipment; they did not
00:32:25
take advantage of the fact that Remezov’s 7th Army,
00:32:28
then numbering twenty-three and a
00:32:31
half thousands of people and what was
00:32:33
actually opposed was a detachment of mixed
00:32:36
Estonian-White Guards of only
00:32:39
3000 people and it would seem where they
00:32:41
went, but this same Remezov army
00:32:43
occupied the territory, yes it turns out to be
00:32:48
sensitive to Lake Onega, that is, as
00:32:50
if we were saying the entire territory in fact
00:32:54
units passed through the modern Leningrad region, they were stretched out
00:32:57
and the main direction of the attack
00:33:00
was supposed to be that probably the intelligence of the
00:33:02
Reds had failed somewhat, it was assumed that on the
00:33:05
Finnish side, the army was mainly
00:33:07
kept at
00:33:08
risk on the isthmus and in the area of
00:33:11
Lake Onega, but by the way, it was not for nothing that the
00:33:13
Finns held at that time, especially in the summer of the
00:33:15
nineteenth year, they didn’t undertake
00:33:17
this very offensive,
00:33:19
we’ll also talk about this in part, but nevertheless, that
00:33:22
is, having really created a certain
00:33:24
fist on the territory of
00:33:28
Narva and between the Chutkoy and Pskov lakes,
00:33:32
the Whites began a very serious offensive,
00:33:34
it was very swift, well, for example, on
00:33:38
May 15, Yamburg was taken in about 17 years,
00:33:42
which is now bears the name of the wonderful
00:33:44
Finnish revolutionaries Kingisepp 25
00:33:48
Pskov was taken Pskov was taken by the Estonian
00:33:51
division of Colonel Puskra
00:33:52
so when we talk about the spring
00:33:55
offensive of the northwestern army it
00:33:58
is wrong to say it is still an
00:33:59
Estonian White Guard offensive
00:34:02
because I repeat the Estonian army
00:34:05
played an active role in everyone stages of
00:34:07
this very offensive in the spring and
00:34:09
autumn it was an intervention of the Estonian
00:34:12
army and
00:34:13
here is one more point since the Reds
00:34:16
were scattered across the territory from clear
00:34:18
to Lake Onega, naturally when
00:34:20
the offensive began and they began
00:34:23
to move very quickly, mostly they
00:34:25
were transferred
00:34:26
either by truck, well this rarely,
00:34:29
most often they moved in marches, they
00:34:31
were very exhausted,
00:34:33
they were poorly fed, and therefore the
00:34:37
understandable level of motivation,
00:34:39
their level of resistance naturally fell, which
00:34:41
is why the whites advanced so rapidly,
00:34:43
well, there were cases of going over to the
00:34:45
side of the whites, I can’t help but remember that
00:34:48
on the night of May 28-29 one of
00:34:53
these, perhaps the most interesting and
00:34:57
unexpected events in the history of
00:34:59
this very offensive, occurred the
00:35:02
betrayal of the third infantry regiment, which
00:35:04
was stationed in the village of Vyra,
00:35:07
this is about six kilometers away, here is an important
00:35:09
road station Siverskaya
00:35:12
of the Warsaw railway, the only one
00:35:15
our viewers should understand is that this is not a
00:35:17
full-blooded infantry regiment just
00:35:19
like the 7th army,
00:35:20
but there was no modern army; the maximum
00:35:23
payroll of the 7th army was about
00:35:26
25 thousand people, this, of course, together with
00:35:30
supply units and civilian
00:35:32
specialists; therefore, one should not assume
00:35:34
that an entire infantry regiment surrendered, for example,
00:35:37
the model of the Russian army of 1913 or 1914 year,
00:35:42
although it must be said that in those conditions this
00:35:45
betrayal led to the fact that, in fact, the path
00:35:48
to Petrograd from the south was actually open,
00:35:51
and how did this betrayal happen? The advanced
00:35:56
units of the Talovsky regiment secretly approached the
00:35:59
faith and entered into negotiations with the
00:36:03
assistant regiment commander, who, by the way, was a
00:36:06
former captain of the tsarist army of hares and the
00:36:09
commander of the first battalion
00:36:10
Sampsonievsky, who was a lieutenant in the
00:36:13
tsarist army, by the way, Samson Nevsky was
00:36:15
a member of the bee bee bee since April 1, 1019,
00:36:19
this is about the question that all the purges
00:36:22
that were proposed, well, for example, Stalin,
00:36:25
remember she and Trotsky had very
00:36:28
numerous discussions during during the
00:36:30
civil war, is it worth it or not to trust a
00:36:32
soldier to specialists, is it worth it or not to clean them, and
00:36:35
so on, just by the way, we
00:36:37
later became together with Zinovia, we sent
00:36:40
a telegram about this egregious case to
00:36:42
Moscow to the Revolutionary Military Council,
00:36:44
after all, there were many such examples,
00:36:46
so it’s clear where Stalin
00:36:48
got it from such an idea to clean up all the
00:36:51
old military experts,
00:36:52
but nevertheless, a member of the All-Russian Communist Party of Belarus
00:36:55
Sampsonievsky
00:36:56
and the assistant commander of the Hares regiment, they
00:37:01
managed to once propagandize
00:37:03
most of this very regiment, they killed the
00:37:07
regiment commander Tavrin, who in the past was the
00:37:10
commander of
00:37:11
one of the units to change the Red
00:37:13
Latvian riflemen and the commissar Rakov
00:37:16
put up fierce resistance, he
00:37:19
fired back to the last from a machine gun and kept the
00:37:21
last bullet from the revolver for himself,
00:37:24
but did not surrender to the enemies of the remaining
00:37:26
commissars and it turns out that the Red Army soldiers
00:37:30
who did not want to give the red
00:37:33
banner were shot and after that they
00:37:38
marched directly in the world in such a ceremonial march since
00:37:41
this is a pack 3 infantry
00:37:43
was created mainly on the basis of the
00:37:47
Semyonovsky regiment, there were spare parts,
00:37:49
they marched under the march of the Tsar’s
00:37:51
Semyonovsky regiment, and Rodzianko, by the way,
00:37:53
ordered the consequences of this regiment to
00:37:55
include the composition of the north-western one and
00:37:57
just under the name of the Semyonovsky
00:37:59
regiment, why this happened is of course
00:38:03
connected with the way this regiment was formed,
00:38:05
what the Red Army lacked at that time was the
00:38:08
lack of, firstly, competent and
00:38:12
motivated commanders who
00:38:14
would come from the ranks of the
00:38:15
barrels and peasants directly, this is just an
00:38:18
example of a specific betrayal and
00:38:20
I have such strong suspicions that when
00:38:22
Sampsonievsky was not just a
00:38:25
momentary traitor who was simply
00:38:27
offered the labs and went over to the side of the
00:38:29
White Army, he so spontaneously agreed,
00:38:31
most likely he was an infiltrated or most
00:38:34
infiltrated agent of the White Guards, that
00:38:36
is, such an ideological enemy of the Soviet
00:38:38
regime who entered one of the
00:38:40
most important areas, again the army, this is the
00:38:44
first moment the second moment of whom
00:38:46
this regiment was formed and it was formed
00:38:49
mainly according to what originally
00:38:51
preserved its function in Petrograd,
00:38:53
those who were shirking the service
00:38:55
directly at the front went there, and some
00:38:57
merchants, some petty
00:39:00
officials and so on went there, that is, there
00:39:02
was quite a petty-bourgeois
00:39:04
worldview among most of the fighters, and the
00:39:07
commissars at that time they were not able to
00:39:09
do serious work and the teacher,
00:39:12
this led to the fact that frog opened up,
00:39:14
although on the other hand, despite the fact that
00:39:16
some labs and subsequently went to Sivirskaya
00:39:19
even blew up a railway bridge
00:39:21
due to the fact that the
00:39:23
Reds were able to very quickly create a number of
00:39:25
units from workers, for example,
00:39:27
Gatchina, which entered the
00:39:29
battle directly,
00:39:31
they were able to quickly eliminate this failure,
00:39:34
and by the way, the Sivirsky
00:39:38
subsequently drove away the lapse of these with
00:39:40
what could the red
00:39:43
troops oppose to this offensive in the spring-summer of the
00:39:46
nineteenth year, they could
00:39:48
oppose, firstly, these
00:39:50
scattered troops that were retreating
00:39:52
under the onslaught of the whites, but these troops
00:39:56
intensified firstly, by communist
00:39:58
working
00:39:59
sailors and were not supported, for example, by
00:40:02
the actions of armored trains, for example,
00:40:04
armored trains number 49 and 26, they rushed
00:40:07
all over, let’s say, Narva at the front,
00:40:10
I support the army with artillery and
00:40:12
machine gun fire, they did not sometimes
00:40:14
play a decisive role, they
00:40:15
gathered at and on equipment which,
00:40:18
of course, which the White Guards
00:40:20
hunted, which they constantly tried to
00:40:22
knock out, the White Guards had their own equipment,
00:40:25
armored cars, tanks, which we will talk about,
00:40:27
but the Reds had an advantage, armored
00:40:30
vehicles, armored trains, which were
00:40:33
damaged during the battles,
00:40:36
they could be transferred to Petrograd and
00:40:40
restored quickly enough, there was a working base
00:40:41
that allowed this to be done, and thanks to It was
00:40:44
this skillful action and high
00:40:46
motivation that the offensive was stopped by the
00:40:49
Whites, of course, it was helped by the fact that the
00:40:53
famous mutiny began at Fort
00:40:56
Krasnaya Gorka and the English fleet began to help to a
00:41:00
certain extent, but
00:41:02
we will not touch on this topic in a separate program for now,
00:41:04
and moreover, the Reds
00:41:08
were not confident in the fact that they will hold
00:41:11
Petrograd to the end, although they fought for it,
00:41:12
the emphasis on Petrograd was divided into combat
00:41:15
areas, basically they coincided with
00:41:18
the areas of Petrograd where there were already
00:41:21
appointed combat detachments that would conduct
00:41:23
street battles, commanders were appointed
00:41:27
responsible there because of the liquidation of
00:41:28
industrial equipment, and so on
00:41:30
began already build fortifications,
00:41:32
dig trenches around Petrograd, especially in the
00:41:36
southwestern and southern directions, and the
00:41:40
most interesting thing here is that the White Guards
00:41:43
seem to have stalled their
00:41:45
offensive significantly
00:41:46
and they first of all began to look for who
00:41:49
was to blame; natural on the watt they
00:41:51
found them among themselves and the Whites began
00:41:53
a conflict which actually coincided with the
00:41:55
fact that they stopped at the walls of
00:41:57
Petrograd, it was a conflict between people
00:42:01
than radiance on the one hand, and
00:42:04
Ivanov’s bular was to things on the other, well,
00:42:06
Soviet sources they call it that
00:42:09
this conflict is not so much personal
00:42:11
because it was Bolatovich for
00:42:13
example had enormous authority in the
00:42:15
army, almost more authority than the
00:42:17
people of Necha because fortunately Balok Ovich
00:42:20
was such a dashing cavalryman who
00:42:23
carried out many different raids, the
00:42:25
troops simply knew him, there was an
00:42:27
ideological conflict because if
00:42:30
Ivanov was adblock o Vich they were
00:42:32
supporters of, let’s say, the bourgeois
00:42:34
democracy is the day of Chara Dianka, they
00:42:37
advocated the monarchical path of development
00:42:39
and this was remembered more and more often, that is,
00:42:42
at first it seemed like the
00:42:43
contradictions were smoothed out, but when the
00:42:45
period of stopping the offensive came,
00:42:48
then the retreat naturally began, they began
00:42:49
to figure it out, maybe you are a traitor, or
00:42:52
maybe you in fact, the red block, the
00:42:54
block to leave, was the red commander, and
00:42:56
so it was in milk, for example, they were
00:42:58
released from the command, they even put them
00:43:00
under house arrest, which naturally the
00:43:02
white troops caused even more confusion
00:43:05
and by the way at that time, for example, the
00:43:09
Latvians could not help the white army
00:43:12
because that they were engaged in battles with
00:43:14
another White Army, Berm, he
00:43:17
gave it, it was initially about the
00:43:19
German army, but oddly enough,
00:43:22
Yudenich’s army was about the Entente, and it fought, as usual,
00:43:24
indivisible Estonia, but about the
00:43:26
German army,
00:43:28
he gave it directly, and it fought just the
00:43:30
same indivisible Russia against Latvia
00:43:33
independently naturally pulled up a
00:43:35
significant number of Latvian troops
00:43:38
and this was also one of the moments that
00:43:42
this White offensive on Petrograd was
00:43:44
somewhat restrained by the Reds to take advantage of this and
00:43:47
so it’s quite interesting when this
00:43:50
offensive ended, when it was
00:43:53
stopped and whether it reached
00:43:54
Petrograd a fortified area
00:43:56
that was formed in July 1919 and was
00:44:01
subordinate to the same 7th Army, already
00:44:03
quite battered, no
00:44:07
whites in general did not reach this fortified area except for
00:44:10
individual reconnaissance units,
00:44:12
just on June 21 the Reds went on the
00:44:16
offensive,
00:44:17
they managed to, despite the fact that the army
00:44:19
really said it correctly
00:44:20
quite battered exhaustingly by my
00:44:22
battles,
00:44:23
by the way, sometimes resistance was shown to the
00:44:26
advancing White Guards, not just that
00:44:29
individual platoons or companies,
00:44:31
sometimes individual machine gunners held back the
00:44:35
advance, individual
00:44:36
riflemen, and even who literally sat there
00:44:39
in the trees and shot
00:44:41
the White Guards, and every hour that the
00:44:43
Red detachments, individual Red Army soldiers
00:44:45
won the Red command
00:44:47
used one hundred percent and managed to
00:44:50
prepare the defense and transfer the necessary
00:44:52
troops by the way, this story reminded me of the
00:44:55
spring and autumn offensive of the
00:44:58
nineteenth year,
00:45:02
many parallels arose in my head
00:45:04
and 41 years, that is, the offensive of the German
00:45:07
army went in approximately the same
00:45:09
directions as the direction of
00:45:11
activity northwestern army day
00:45:13
I was the only one from of course disparate
00:45:16
troops were on both sides in the forty-first
00:45:18
year to give the same roads the
00:45:20
same
00:45:21
key settlements where the fighting took place and
00:45:25
again the White Guards had already reached
00:45:28
Petrograd they had already actually seen they
00:45:31
couldn’t take it, the Germans reached
00:45:34
Petrograd, they saw it from their compass
00:45:36
and just visually they
00:45:39
removed it, for example, from the Pulkovo
00:45:41
Heights, but they couldn’t take it. By the way, there are
00:45:43
a lot of parallels why, but the Germans
00:45:45
stayed longer near Leningrad
00:45:47
then,
00:45:48
well, let’s not have a low-intensity conflict
00:45:51
in this In terms of plan, I absolutely agree and it
00:45:54
turns out that the white forces were
00:45:55
stopped and then a reasonable
00:45:58
question arises: what did they do next?
00:46:00
Organize a static defense
00:46:02
or still retreat under the influence of the
00:46:05
onslaught of the reinforcements that you
00:46:08
said, in fact, both the
00:46:10
bill itself and the white detachments themselves are
00:46:13
enough still grew to 3000, they
00:46:15
grew to 16 and a half thousand sabers and
00:46:19
bayonets, this is a significant force, they were
00:46:21
quite well armed, and at the time of
00:46:23
June 21, when the counteroffensive of the
00:46:26
Red Army began, the Red Army
00:46:28
numbered 23 thousand bayonets and it
00:46:31
was still possible to fight until, but the Whites had already
00:46:34
exhausted the resources of the offensive troops
00:46:37
were also shabby, exhausted, and
00:46:39
they begin a rapid
00:46:41
offensive; they also begin a
00:46:43
rapid retreat because on
00:46:46
June 21, the beginning of the offensive of the
00:46:49
Red Army began; on August 5, Yamburg was already liberated; on
00:46:53
August 20, Pskov and it seems that the
00:46:57
white troops were thrown back to those positions with
00:46:59
which they started, it was here, this is a
00:47:01
complete failure of
00:47:02
this very offensive, but I already
00:47:04
told you in the whitest article, they began to
00:47:07
look for the guilty and even
00:47:09
how they essentially accused them of
00:47:12
collaborating directly with the Reds, and at the
00:47:15
same time, it is very interesting that the
00:47:17
Petrograd fortified area
00:47:19
is was announced already in July 1919, that
00:47:22
is, after the start of the offensive,
00:47:23
therefore it was assumed that this
00:47:26
attack was not the last on Petrograd, and
00:47:28
in any case, it was assumed by the
00:47:31
Red command at that time and the
00:47:33
political leadership, which also
00:47:35
should not be forgotten, and of course the White Guards,
00:47:39
they took into account the fact that then the
00:47:43
offensive was going on and On Denikin’s side and on
00:47:46
Kolchak’s side, they received the necessary
00:47:48
reinforcements, they began to receive very
00:47:51
modern equipment for those times,
00:47:53
for example, the same tanks that we
00:47:55
will talk about separately,
00:47:56
armored cars, airplanes, they received
00:47:59
naval support at some points, and
00:48:02
so on, and they began to prepare a new
00:48:04
offensive, everything was just beginning and
00:48:07
just in the fall, when a
00:48:09
new offensive begins, the hardest thing for
00:48:12
our entire epic was when the
00:48:15
Entente joined when you George noticed in one
00:48:19
of his offensives that thanks to the
00:48:22
results of the First World War, England
00:48:24
received two more seas, by the way, the
00:48:27
black Baltic and it was necessary, as it were, on
00:48:30
these seas to gain a foothold and the presence of a
00:48:32
red state tap very much prevented
00:48:35
this statement from becoming a reality; it was necessary to
00:48:38
help the
00:48:39
white army, as far as I understand, it was necessary to
00:48:42
hurry in the fall; firstly, it was
00:48:44
necessary to be in time, as always, before the
00:48:46
autumn thaw,
00:48:48
and it is advisable to be in time before ice sets
00:48:50
on the Gulf of Finland, because the
00:48:53
Gulf of Finland is everything - it was freezing and the English
00:48:55
fleet, which at that time was helping the
00:48:57
north-western army, was very
00:48:59
problematic to operate in the waters of the
00:49:02
Russian Republic, this also urged the
00:49:05
White Army to the same thing and urged the fact
00:49:07
that on August 26, 1919 an
00:49:10
agreement was signed between Estonia and
00:49:12
Latvia on that the
00:49:13
armies of these countries will help the
00:49:16
White Guard troops at this time,
00:49:19
by the way, Finland
00:49:20
begins its offensive mainly in the
00:49:23
Alla children's direction,
00:49:25
which by the way was choked, but
00:49:27
nevertheless pulled a significant
00:49:29
part of the Red troops upon itself in general, the
00:49:33
Whites had to launch an offensive
00:49:34
and just the offensive began, it
00:49:37
was supported by the first 2 Estonian
00:49:40
divisions, and when we talked to
00:49:43
you, we pierced the operation, we said
00:49:45
that the Reds used
00:49:48
Raskolnikov as such an allegedly
00:49:50
proactive commander who, at his own
00:49:53
peril and risk, decides to
00:49:54
attack Intel; the
00:49:58
Estonians did the same thing in 1919
00:50:01
supposedly the first 2 Estonian divisions
00:50:04
acted in the Petrograd direction
00:50:07
on the personal initiative of Johann Lyon Hole,
00:50:11
that is, there was such a general and
00:50:13
take it like Estonia, in case of success, he will say
00:50:18
that they say we took this territory, and in
00:50:21
case of failure, he can always put all the
00:50:22
blame on this general and
00:50:25
like me said the Finns were advancing in the Donetsk
00:50:28
province, Denikin was advancing from the south, in
00:50:31
fact, the Red Army was again experiencing
00:50:34
tension beyond the tension, and by the way,
00:50:38
moreover, at the end of June 19, Yudenich
00:50:41
received, among other things, 1 million francs for the needs of the army, it’s
00:50:43
true a loan and I must
00:50:46
say that if one speaks and the shadows he
00:50:48
completely converted this money into
00:50:50
quite successful offensive
00:50:51
actions and the offensive, I must say, was
00:50:54
really successful, so the loan was
00:50:56
still worked out well because,
00:50:59
again, Petrograd prices drove up and
00:51:03
in November, when the troops already saw the
00:51:06
dome of St. Isaac
00:51:09
of Dalmatia, by the way, there was
00:51:10
a work that is called
00:51:12
about what happened in Gatchina in the
00:51:16
nineteenth year, especially in the fall, all
00:51:19
Petrograd was in front of the whites, it was
00:51:22
virtually defenseless and therefore, as
00:51:25
you remember, in 40
00:51:26
this year, too, sometimes the death of the Soviet
00:51:29
various media said that Moscow was
00:51:32
all Petrograd, I apologize for that moment,
00:51:35
of course Leningrad
00:51:37
these leaflets were taken and distributed, various ones,
00:51:40
surrender, Russian soldiers, valiant
00:51:42
Leningrad, Moscow was taken as a gift, the same thing
00:51:45
spread all over the world, various media
00:51:48
wrote that Petrograd was full of examples, the
00:51:51
White Guard newspaper Donskaya Speech in the
00:51:55
issue of November 15 described
00:51:58
Petrograd just like that, put a wonderful northern
00:52:01
fairy tale
00:52:02
in Berlin The White Guard generals
00:52:05
ordered a prayer service that
00:52:08
Petrograd had finally been taken, it all had to fall, and
00:52:11
indeed the troops were already standing
00:52:13
directly in Tsarskoe Selo; the
00:52:15
whites were standing in the Kolpino area; they were standing in the
00:52:18
area of ​​the modern police station,
00:52:21
Krasnoye Selo and Pulkovo, and thus
00:52:23
the front passed approximately along those in the same
00:52:27
places as he passed 41 44 years,
00:52:31
but still there were some significant
00:52:33
differences, in particular the paradoxical,
00:52:35
by the way, of not taking the railway station,
00:52:38
which allowed the Reds
00:52:39
to transfer their reinforcements by
00:52:41
rail, and by the way, quite
00:52:44
successfully
00:52:45
in this difficult time, the Reds were able to
00:52:47
achieve fairly good results in the
00:52:50
movement of trains up to 500 kilometers per
00:52:53
day, and in some cases it was possible
00:52:55
to do
00:52:56
that, which was quite difficult in the conditions of the
00:52:59
collapse of the railway infrastructure, but
00:53:01
why do you think it was never
00:53:04
taken, was it only due to the military mistake of the Whites,
00:53:07
or were there some other reasons also
00:53:10
present, well, the first
00:53:12
offensive of the Bels began to fizzle out
00:53:14
simply because of fatigue, their army did
00:53:17
not march for too long, they entered into
00:53:19
serious, exhausting battles
00:53:22
which very often,
00:53:24
well, there were such battles of local importance, but there
00:53:26
were a lot of them, the red ones
00:53:28
really fought very well, the
00:53:30
red sailors acted very well in the
00:53:33
area, just like a fort a red hill and a
00:53:37
gray horse, for
00:53:38
example, when one of the battles of such
00:53:42
local importance, when the whites tried to take the village, the
00:53:45
hotels the reds
00:53:46
very well integrated the defense into the terrain,
00:53:49
how they first occupied the local palace,
00:53:52
turning it into essentially a year and
00:53:56
controlling the machine guns with the help of machine guns, the
00:53:58
whites tried to go around
00:54:01
through the lowland where the
00:54:04
primary and other ponds were located were
00:54:06
stopped again by machine-gun fire, that
00:54:08
is, the Reds were very good at
00:54:10
holding back the
00:54:11
Whites as best they could, that is, the Whites were simply
00:54:14
tired, by the way, at the same time, it was
00:54:17
in August and October that our
00:54:20
Leningrad land first learned such a
00:54:22
thing as
00:54:23
tank battles, and there were several whites, they
00:54:27
had their own tanks, mostly they were
00:54:29
Mark 5 tanks, a British
00:54:33
tank detachment of 48 people was even created under the
00:54:35
command of Major Hope Carlson a
00:54:38
month later, although they still received it in
00:54:40
August, the first echelon arrived with my husband,
00:54:43
so to speak, later received two more tanks
00:54:45
of dinner by the way, they also removed such yes yes and
00:54:48
these tanks they had big names
00:54:51
first aid is clear British aid
00:54:55
captain except brown bear white soldier
00:54:58
volunteer liberation they by the way were
00:55:01
expressed quite powerful at that time with a
00:55:03
thirty-seven mm cannon and
00:55:05
two 7-caliber machine guns 62
00:55:08
one was located along the path of the tank forward,
00:55:11
the other looked back, and these tanks were
00:55:14
supported by infantry, that is,
00:55:16
real tank
00:55:17
infantry units were created that helped take certain
00:55:20
positions and the Reds at that time,
00:55:22
in fact, very often did not have enough strength
00:55:25
to stop them there there were guns there were no
00:55:28
machine guns of any kind digging
00:55:30
third anti-tank trenches
00:55:33
anti-tank ditches I apologize,
00:55:35
but nevertheless it was said very often, for
00:55:37
example, in a battle with the bare hands,
00:55:41
sometimes a machine gun was torn out of these
00:55:43
Red cadet tanks, the battles were very brutal
00:55:46
new, of course, although at the very beginning in at the
00:55:49
very beginning of the tank operations, the tanks,
00:55:51
as far as I understand, you can
00:55:53
correct me, were found in the so
00:55:55
-called 7th column of the attackers, they
00:55:58
encountered a great difficulty,
00:55:59
the difficulty was that a
00:56:03
bridge was blown up that could withstand the weight of
00:56:06
armored car tanks, for example, they
00:56:08
could easily pass in the future and the tanks had to
00:56:10
wait for their the queue of armor in
00:56:13
trains of whites was exactly the same
00:56:15
big problem, plus the
00:56:17
lack of infrastructure for supporting
00:56:19
tanks plus British types, let me remind you
00:56:22
that each such tank required 8
00:56:25
qualified shooters and, in general,
00:56:27
operators of this tank, and
00:56:29
it must be said that repairing these
00:56:33
tanks in the field was a
00:56:35
significant difficulty; doing this
00:56:37
was difficult again, of course,
00:56:40
they did not support with cannon fire, but with machine gun fire, but
00:56:42
still it was very effective,
00:56:44
and by the way, the red Finnish cadets of the
00:56:47
squads in the village of Kosheleva went
00:56:50
by the way, as I said, in a bayonet
00:56:52
attack they managed to snatch the machine guns of the machine
00:56:54
inside Kuprin, he describes that they say the
00:56:57
red leaders deceived the cadets that they
00:57:01
they say the British tanks are made of plywood, well,
00:57:04
you know, if they deceived it, it
00:57:07
worked because the tank
00:57:10
was essentially rendered harmless in this way, but in fact, the tank at
00:57:13
that time had very poor
00:57:16
observation devices in order to detect
00:57:18
sneaking cadets; indeed,
00:57:21
at that time it was quite possible to do this
00:57:23
maybe bad sighting devices
00:57:24
for shooting from machine guns
00:57:27
bad commander's cupola, more precisely, even
00:57:30
then it was impossible to talk about the
00:57:31
commander's cupola communication between the tanks there
00:57:34
was no radio communication at that time,
00:57:37
I mean leaning out of the tank is dangerous
00:57:39
until there was no other alarm, that is, in the
00:57:42
combat itself The application of this mod was
00:57:44
very difficult for the white infantry to approach the
00:57:47
tanks at that time, for example, you could
00:57:49
knock and give some signals
00:57:52
at that time there was no such thing, so it
00:57:54
was not only heroism on the part of the
00:57:56
Reds, but also,
00:57:57
in my opinion, a completely reasonable action on that At the
00:58:00
moment, it was possible to fight with machines like this
00:58:02
on and quite effectively, it must be said
00:58:04
that on the German front, the Germans at one
00:58:07
time tried to fight
00:58:09
tanks in the same way, but it was much more difficult, and
00:58:11
because combat use on the German
00:58:14
front on the Western Front during the
00:58:16
First World War was precisely such a
00:58:18
tactic It was difficult because the
00:58:20
covering fire was quite strong and the
00:58:23
tanks were protected from the flanks. Well, it must
00:58:27
still be said that the whites were counting
00:58:30
on the psychological significance of these
00:58:32
tanks, that the red ones would simply be scared, because
00:58:34
many of them had not seen these
00:58:36
tanks; for many it was a surprise,
00:58:39
but the red one very quickly we learned to
00:58:41
fight them on October 32, 4, in a battle near a village, a
00:58:44
new picture during the White attack
00:58:46
on Tsarskoe Selo, for example, they managed to
00:58:48
organize a Red
00:58:49
artillery ambush, knock out two tanks,
00:58:52
which the Whites, with heavy losses, managed to
00:58:54
tow to their positions, or for
00:58:56
example, during the battles for the villages
00:58:59
Antonovo there was a battle for the northern outskirts of
00:59:01
this village they were able to use grenades, that is, they were
00:59:04
able to create a bunch of grenades, an
00:59:07
improvised one was knocked out, for example, two
00:59:08
Ricardo tanks that were out of order, that
00:59:11
is, the red one was really taught to
00:59:13
fight even with the most modern weapons
00:59:15
before with these means, how
00:59:16
would they have it, was this the first moment
00:59:19
why the offensive floundered
00:59:21
again, just like during the spring
00:59:23
offensive, so during the autumn offensive there was
00:59:25
an expectation that there would be some kind of
00:59:28
uprising in Petrograd itself, it did
00:59:30
n’t happen, firstly, the police, the
00:59:33
then bodies of the Cheka worked very
00:59:36
efficiently, they were able to
00:59:38
actually uncover all the conspiracies
00:59:40
one conspiracy did not come true and for example the
00:59:43
police in 919 managed to
00:59:47
arrest about 18 thousand people, in
00:59:49
fact this is for a front-line city,
00:59:53
you will agree it’s not enough, but
00:59:56
it must be said that the police in general,
00:59:57
all the structures that provided
00:59:59
security and for quite a long time were
01:00:02
subordinate to the revolutionary committee, which
01:00:04
controlled them completely in a different way,
01:00:05
plus in Petrograd, starting from October 15, a
01:00:08
state of siege was in force, which
01:00:11
also provided for a complete change in the
01:00:13
structure of power, everything was
01:00:16
concentrated on
01:00:17
maintaining power in Petrograd
01:00:19
in any way, and by the way, this is probably
01:00:23
the topic of a separate video, the fight against
01:00:25
counter-revolution by the internal affairs bodies
01:00:27
during the civil war,
01:00:29
but let's go back 18,000 were arrested, by the
01:00:32
way, for the so-called agitation, the
01:00:36
revolutionary code was arrested, of which only
01:00:38
153 people were mainly arrested for
01:00:41
economic crimes such as
01:00:43
speculation or misappropriation of a
01:00:46
sufficiently large amount of
01:00:47
food. By the way, at that time there
01:00:48
was no famine in Petrograd, but there were
01:00:51
large shortages of food and
01:00:53
about 6,200 people were arrested for
01:00:58
banditry, theft, robbery, and so on, that
01:01:01
is, the expectation that the rear of the Reds would be, so to
01:01:03
speak, chaotic, the Whites also did not
01:01:07
materialize, but by the way, it is necessary to
01:01:09
remember that it was during the
01:01:12
autumn offensive that not
01:01:15
only the Petrograd fortified area was formed,
01:01:17
but Petrograd internal
01:01:19
defensive region,
01:01:21
Avrov’s command prepared for
01:01:23
urban battles in every sense, not only
01:01:26
in the military sense, but as you said,
01:01:29
also in law enforcement, accordingly, is it
01:01:31
true that the Soviet government at that
01:01:33
time was preparing some especially important
01:01:35
objects for demolition and destruction? Yes,
01:01:38
moreover, it was a dispute between
01:01:41
Zinoviev, essentially the head of Petrograd at that time,
01:01:44
and Stalin on the question of
01:01:47
whether it is worth evacuating
01:01:48
Petrograd or not, I say that
01:01:51
Petrograd can be held, but in the end it was
01:01:53
kept, by the way, a dispute then,
01:01:56
in the period of various 20-30 years, they
01:02:00
regularly recalled mentioned and so
01:02:02
on but the most important thing is that if the whites had
01:02:06
really broken through the city
01:02:08
blocks, what would have given them in the first place and
01:02:10
heavy street battles would have awaited them, that is,
01:02:12
barricades were prepared by the way in the
01:02:15
conditions of a front-line city that the
01:02:17
whites could take, in fact,
01:02:20
all the services worked very well I
01:02:23
I gave a weld, I’ll give one example, it’s
01:02:24
very interesting when one of the workers,
01:02:27
or let’s say the unit, was given the task of
01:02:29
dismantling an old house where no one
01:02:32
lived, a wooden one, preparing a
01:02:34
barricade, when they started doing this,
01:02:36
pulling the house apart log by log, the
01:02:39
fire brigade appeared and drove them away
01:02:41
because it was some kind of violation fire
01:02:44
safety, that is, even the fire
01:02:45
service worked very well, that is, the
01:02:47
city was all services worked in a
01:02:50
disciplined manner, workers produced
01:02:52
military products,
01:02:54
military equipment was repaired, various names about
01:02:56
usually factory committees trained
01:02:59
self-defense units, by the way, more than
01:03:01
two thousand party members in these difficult
01:03:04
moments of August September October
01:03:06
were sent to front in the
01:03:08
active army, they became the shock units
01:03:11
of these units, which, well, in the
01:03:15
right areas, played a decisive role, that
01:03:17
is, the party and all Soviet bodies
01:03:20
worked just fine, the offensive was
01:03:23
really stopped, and just
01:03:26
when on October 21 the Whites were
01:03:29
stopped
01:03:30
on the line as I told the cop the red
01:03:33
village of Kolpino is
01:03:35
very similar to the front line in
01:03:38
1941, and despite the fact that
01:03:40
they already had a clear view of Petrograd, at
01:03:43
just that time Trotsky
01:03:46
gave the order to begin the offensive, and
01:03:50
he created a strike force due to the
01:03:52
fact that Tosna was held
01:03:54
and along the Nikolaev railway trains went
01:03:56
one after another, despite the fact that they were
01:03:58
driven very often without hot food in
01:04:02
the cold, that is, there was a certain
01:04:04
percentage of people with colds, and so on, and
01:04:06
almost from the wheel the axles did not enter into battle,
01:04:08
so to speak,
01:04:09
the offensive 40,000 group began
01:04:13
its offensive, by the way, this
01:04:15
offensive enjoyed great
01:04:17
support from the population, which nevertheless
01:04:19
managed to find out what, let’s
01:04:21
say, white-white power is, well, in
01:04:24
particular, during the battles for the city of Pushkin,
01:04:27
then it was called Tsarskoe Selo, there was
01:04:29
an episode when a local intelligent
01:04:32
simply showed the red detachment
01:04:35
that, for example, the territory of the park there
01:04:37
and there he saw the white
01:04:39
infantry units located and the red ones opened
01:04:42
mounted on horseback and inflicted significant
01:04:45
damage on these white troops when on November 3,
01:04:48
1019 they recaptured Gatchina, they
01:04:52
discovered that the whites there were
01:04:54
really engaged in great
01:04:55
terror, well according to the most approximate
01:04:58
data, they shot 30 people, well, there’s
01:05:01
no need to say that this is a little, after
01:05:03
all, they weren’t there
01:05:06
for long before, and for example, they shot
01:05:08
people who just there was a case
01:05:10
that Kuprin described when a
01:05:13
mentally ill young man, Jews,
01:05:15
just went to the market and began to say
01:05:17
that you were doing the wrong thing, that the
01:05:19
Reds actually
01:05:20
stood for a good cause, he was simply
01:05:23
shot, although
01:05:24
they said about him that he was just
01:05:25
mentally ill, don’t touch him,
01:05:27
they shot him, they
01:05:28
also shot those who were considered
01:05:30
comrades-in-arms of the
01:05:32
Soviet regime, that is, white terror in the
01:05:34
occupied territories was in the territories
01:05:36
and people saw that, by the way, white
01:05:38
officers sometimes behave incorrectly,
01:05:40
mostly by the way, they don’t
01:05:42
behave, that drunkenness,
01:05:43
robberies are common, and so on, that is,
01:05:46
and the population mainly
01:05:49
supported the Reds at that time, we also need to
01:05:52
remember that the whites did not solve one of the
01:05:54
cornerstone problems and namely,
01:05:55
food for which was relevant
01:05:57
for Petrograd itself but natural for the
01:05:59
population of the adjacent areas to it,
01:06:02
well, how could they decide, in fact,
01:06:05
they did not receive such economic
01:06:06
assistance that would allow them and
01:06:09
thus win the sympathy of the local
01:06:11
population, they supplied their troops with
01:06:14
great with difficulty, by the way, by
01:06:17
the way, they received supplies
01:06:18
mainly from England and very often in the
01:06:21
boxes that went with food
01:06:23
or with weapons and ammunition there were
01:06:26
some strange things, for example, they
01:06:28
received one day in August a load of boxes of
01:06:32
which there were English rifles, they opened
01:06:35
and they discovered there they were very important in the conditions of
01:06:38
the war at that time
01:06:39
guess what rapiers yes you are talking about well you
01:06:42
know this Mardan this story of the gift
01:06:45
of feasting the question is how they appeared there on the
01:06:47
one hand it could be such
01:06:49
sloppiness of English military
01:06:51
officials at the same time let’s
01:06:53
remember what was happening in England then a movement is growing,
01:06:56
which got its name from
01:06:58
its slogan, hands off Soviet
01:07:00
Russia, when workers went on
01:07:02
strikes, staged sabotage, sabotage,
01:07:05
so that military products sent by the
01:07:08
white army did not reach their destination,
01:07:10
or reached a point that was
01:07:11
not necessary, this was also either, or
01:07:14
simply these rifles were replaced by
01:07:16
rapiers altogether not the British, we, too,
01:07:19
will never suspiciously
01:07:21
remove whites from whites who actually
01:07:24
died, or do you mean these rifles
01:07:27
were sold to someone, a good legend,
01:07:30
good rifles, but in other hands
01:07:33
they took the green money and it
01:07:35
turns out that Trotsky who arrived in
01:07:37
Petrograd 17 October 1919, in
01:07:41
principle, he was able to
01:07:43
organize this offensive impulse quite well,
01:07:45
or do you think that he was more of a
01:07:47
political figure, he was and no, I
01:07:50
will not say that he was only a
01:07:51
political figure, he was also a
01:07:54
fief organizer in some
01:07:56
moments quite talented, but this is the
01:07:58
topic in a separate program, I think we
01:08:00
will have a specialist, so the question
01:08:02
will tell us everything in detail, and so
01:08:06
by the way, regarding the food
01:08:07
supply, the really white ones were
01:08:09
already experiencing a shortage of all ammunition,
01:08:11
reinforcements in food, the most
01:08:13
important thing since their main attack was
01:08:15
aimed at Petrograd and the
01:08:18
railway station Tosno then, in
01:08:22
fact, the right flank was exposed,
01:08:25
on which the
01:08:27
red detachments actually went, and this very flank,
01:08:30
which turned out to be
01:08:33
open, led to the fact that the whites not
01:08:36
only began to retreat in
01:08:38
order; by the way, during the spring
01:08:41
campaign, they also retreated here to us in
01:08:43
comparative order, they
01:08:46
simply fled there, well, in particular, the
01:08:49
governor-general of Peter
01:08:52
Petrograd or St. Petersburg Glazenap with the
01:08:55
ministers fled from Gatchina, that is, the
01:08:56
government for Petrograd was prepared, the
01:08:58
governor-general was prepared, this
01:09:00
ideal the governor runs, among other things, on a
01:09:03
train with the lights extinguished and the generals and
01:09:06
the ministers were trembling and sitting,
01:09:08
according to the recollections of one of the members of this
01:09:11
government, with revolvers loaded
01:09:13
in their hands, this government was supposed to
01:09:16
be Russian, or more precisely the government of the
01:09:18
Russian state, or this is the Estonian
01:09:20
government, here probably our
01:09:22
viewers will clarify, well, of course there were
01:09:25
Russian or not-so-Russian names,
01:09:29
but it was assumed how
01:09:32
to implement, of course, a Russian government should have been
01:09:34
created, that’s how
01:09:37
the issue with the Estonians would have been resolved in general,
01:09:39
of course, the Estonians would most likely have received
01:09:41
significant victories in the
01:09:44
joint offensive, significant
01:09:46
preferences, for example, the station
01:09:48
took aim at the entire Baltic fleet,
01:09:51
which was in the Marquis in a puddle between
01:09:53
Kronstadt and Petrograd the sun, of course,
01:09:56
would have received a significant part of
01:09:58
the territory, but I think at least
01:10:02
Lake Peipus would have turned into the
01:10:05
internal lake of Estonia, that’s for sure, that
01:10:06
is, they were not left at a loss, and
01:10:09
this rapid retreat when the
01:10:11
whites lost entire units
01:10:13
of ammunition ended with the Estonian
01:10:16
border and how grateful the Estonian
01:10:19
the government repaid the White Guards,
01:10:22
she
01:10:23
interned this army, but then the
01:10:26
difficulties of his Estonians with the
01:10:29
advancing Red Army began, the
01:10:31
Estonians had to conclude
01:10:34
territorial diplomatic other
01:10:36
agreements directly with Soviet
01:10:40
Russia, I’ll just say that in fact, the
01:10:42
rest of the northwestern army had to for
01:10:45
quite a long time for a long time they
01:10:46
fought to be allowed into the
01:10:49
territory in Estonia,
01:10:50
they were interned, the consequences were, in
01:10:53
fact, for a long time the Estonians did not allow
01:10:55
him to go to their border, so to
01:10:58
speak, although they were I completely agree with you
01:10:59
on the situation of
01:11:01
internees, but at the same time the Estonians did not want them
01:11:04
to see them on their territory, they did not want to
01:11:06
accept them for allowance, to fulfill
01:11:08
any agreements to maintain
01:11:10
this army in at least some proper
01:11:13
condition, it very quickly degraded
01:11:15
due to the disease of
01:11:17
traditional front-line soldiers for the civil
01:11:19
war, for the First World War, then
01:11:21
typhus because there was enough in the neck
01:11:24
a lot of these are other infectious
01:11:25
diseases; this is the impossibility of
01:11:27
qualified medical care for the
01:11:29
wounded; there were quite a lot of them at that
01:11:32
time;
01:11:45
in an open space, not
01:11:48
in any barracks, but
01:11:50
just in a field, by and large, and I
01:11:53
remind you that it was November December,
01:11:55
that is, these are real December frosts
01:11:58
and therefore the pain it hit the Guards
01:12:00
Army surprisingly went on in almost
01:12:03
geometric progression and it
01:12:05
did not stop after the Estonians
01:12:07
finally allowed them to cross or their
01:12:09
border on the contrary even intensified, but this
01:12:12
gratitude, that is, on the one hand,
01:12:13
this is like the Estonian army,
01:12:16
but this is like not an Estonian case of victory,
01:12:19
this is the Estonian army, so please
01:12:21
give us these Baltic territories
01:12:23
and the case of defeat Sorry, this is the
01:12:25
first time we’ve seen you, and in general, maybe you
01:12:27
should go back to Soviet Russia, no, but
01:12:30
we’ll think it ended with the fact that after
01:12:32
all, a decision was made to let the
01:12:35
remnants of the White Guard corps into
01:12:37
immediate Estonia, and here’s the
01:12:40
moment:
01:12:41
where should the Russian White Guard
01:12:44
soldiers and many officers wanted to
01:12:46
stay in Estonia, the Estonians began
01:12:49
to sell these White Guards the right,
01:12:52
guess what, for citizenship, probably
01:12:55
for citizenship, the right for the right to obtain
01:12:57
citizenship, that is, this is such a valuable
01:13:00
document, a complex structure, a
01:13:02
verbal guarantee from your important people,
01:13:05
and there was a funny story with one White Guard, was
01:13:08
he stressed? in
01:13:10
my opinion, 20 thousand francs for the fact that he
01:13:13
gets the opportunity to obtain
01:13:15
citizenship, and on the day when the Estonian
01:13:19
government decided not to
01:13:20
give him citizenship at all, they
01:13:22
managed to charge him another thousand francs, but
01:13:24
they are solvent, the White Guards of
01:13:27
the north, the Westerners, as they called themselves,
01:13:29
what they had to do
01:13:30
their dilemma was much more complicated, in
01:13:33
my opinion, either stay in these
01:13:36
camps or return to Soviet
01:13:38
Russia, someone took advantage of this
01:13:40
opportunity to return to the red
01:13:42
territory, but later, of course,
01:13:45
some soldiers took advantage, let’s
01:13:47
say the White Guards, but
01:13:50
in general it must be said that during the retreat, he
01:13:51
again walked and the process of reverse
01:13:54
defections to the Red troops was also
01:13:56
common, by the way, very often the
01:13:59
Reds simply dismissed the soldiers to
01:14:01
go home, but there was a case when they
01:14:06
attacked one meizu in early November, where there was an
01:14:09
ammunition depot and uniforms, which was
01:14:12
guarded by some small detachment of, I’m not
01:14:14
mistaken, 200 old people who were
01:14:17
mobilized Accordingly, it was
01:14:18
said that they were simply released to go home and the
01:14:20
young people were poured into the Red troops, that
01:14:22
is, this also happened, again, it
01:14:24
was a
01:14:25
mutual process, that is, from the White army to the
01:14:27
Red army, under certain
01:14:29
conditions, from the Red army to the White one, and so on, but
01:14:32
let’s still return to the results before
01:14:35
this very offensive, both spring
01:14:38
and autumn, of course, due to the fact that
01:14:41
it was adventurism and it was a calculation
01:14:44
that the more successes the White Guard units
01:14:48
show, the more
01:14:51
credits and ammunition they will receive,
01:14:54
and quick successes mean a quick
01:14:57
attack on the exposed flank
01:15:00
extended communications but
01:15:02
ultimately exhausted troops, this
01:15:04
ultimately led to defeat as well as the
01:15:07
really good command
01:15:10
that quickly learned from the Foreign Ministry the red
01:15:12
command of the transfer of troops, that is, the
01:15:14
red army and railway
01:15:16
departments coped with this transfer both in
01:15:19
the spring and in the summer in the fall of the
01:15:21
nineteenth year Petrograd
01:15:25
essentially turned into a fortress city,
01:15:28
that is, armed with work detachments
01:15:33
having a party personnel base which was
01:15:36
thrown into the most important direction, all
01:15:39
this really worked and therefore
01:15:41
Petrograd remained red,
01:15:43
but due to the fact that the borders remained the
01:15:46
same between the borders of lady's Estonia,
01:15:49
this is the story of 1919 in fact,
01:15:52
for Petrograd subsequently in the 20s and the
01:15:55
eyes to study are very bad and by the way for the residents of
01:15:58
St. Petersburg
01:15:59
it might be interesting in the 20s
01:16:02
there was a very serious discussion in the party
01:16:04
government, including on the results of the
01:16:07
nineteenth year when Petrograd
01:16:09
was almost taken by the whites twice
01:16:11
received the name of the discussion about the
01:16:14
attenuation of Petrograd or the attenuation of
01:16:17
Leningrad, subsequently the discussion was as
01:16:19
follows due to the fact that Petrograd
01:16:21
Leningrad is located close to the Estonian,
01:16:25
Latvian and Finnish borders, it is always
01:16:28
on the front line, it is very
01:16:30
easy to capture and we saw just an
01:16:32
example of the offensive of the White Guards in the
01:16:33
spring in the fall when they quickly approached
01:16:36
Petrograd, the second moment was that
01:16:39
the White Guard or some other forces could
01:16:41
easily cut the railways and
01:16:44
interrupt the supply of Petrograd from
01:16:48
Moscow and especially the southern provinces,
01:16:50
first of all, fuel supply
01:16:52
because, again, there was no coal of their own
01:16:55
near Petrograd, it was imported without the
01:16:57
factories of the plant simply would
01:16:58
not work, and in the party environment of the
01:17:02
Petrograd Leningraders the idea arose
01:17:04
that we should simply take the
01:17:06
lion's share of the population of Petrograd and
01:17:09
transfer all the factories and factories to a much
01:17:11
safer place, that is, to the Urals, in this
01:17:14
way Petrograd would simply
01:17:15
fade away and its population would decrease
01:17:18
approximately three quarters of this should have
01:17:20
happened, according to some data, at the end of the 20
01:17:23
20s,
01:17:24
but thanks to the fact that Sergei Mironovich Kirov was at the head of the allegro,
01:17:29
these conversations stopped, that is, it
01:17:33
was said that in the event of a new war,
01:17:35
Leningrad would continue to be a
01:17:37
fortress city, as It happened in the forty-
01:17:39
first year that fuel problems would be
01:17:42
solved through the search for local
01:17:45
fuel, for example, various peat
01:17:47
developments, that is, talk about the attenuation
01:17:51
is a choker, so to speak, but
01:17:54
really in 20-30 before, in general,
01:17:58
throughout the entire Soviet Union, the topic of the
01:18:01
attack on Petrograd by
01:18:03
Yudenich’s army was regularly raised.
01:18:07
there were a number of topics
01:18:09
if there were any literary works,
01:18:11
poems, films, let’s remember at least the
01:18:14
unforgettable film 1919, it was included in a
01:18:18
certain epic of Stalin, well, we
01:18:22
can say yes, we just know Stalin
01:18:25
played a certain role in the Petrograd
01:18:28
defense, but perhaps when we talk about
01:18:30
Red Hill, we will touch on the role Stalin in
01:18:34
this liberation operation and also in the
01:18:38
naval operation and so on, that is, for
01:18:42
Soviet historiography the defense of
01:18:45
Petrograd in 1919 was the most important
01:18:48
topic and despite the fact that today we
01:18:50
talked very briefly,
01:18:53
many of the topics that we outlined
01:18:55
remain later for future videos with
01:18:59
which about which we will talk with
01:19:01
new experts,
01:19:03
I think that we will address the topic of the defense of Petrograd
01:19:05
again and again and again
01:19:11
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В 1919 году белогвардейцы, возглавляемые Юденичем, предприняли попытку наступления на Петроград. Глеб Таргонский и Владимир Зайцев расскажут о походе Юденича Родзянко, о роли Сталина, о роли Эстонии и Англии, и об обороне Петрограда. Канал Революционная Инициатива: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzrFjkzu4i10l48vstsgrnQ Аудиоверсия: https://files.krasnoe.tv/files/audio/CivilWar/Nastuplenie_Yudenicha.mp3 Благодарим подписчиков за поддержку канала. Новые видео появляются, благодаря вашей поддержке! Карта Сбербанка: 4274320053142660 Яндекс.Деньги: 100115761035574 PayPal: paypal.me/krasnoetv2020 Webmoney: 158698007489 Для удобства платежа, настройте шаблон платежей в вашем онлайн банке, и помогайте проекту на постоянной основе. Мнения авторов не всегда совпадают с точкой зрения редакции. Мы в ВК: https://vk.com/ktv_ru Мы в ФБ: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Мы в ТГ: https://t.me/krasnoetv

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