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a special broadcast on radio nv continues. My00:00:02
name is Oleksiy Tarasov. We are now on00:00:04
the call. Vasyl Samoilov, a00:00:06
military serviceman of the Central Security Service, an activist of the Crimea,00:00:08
Mr. Vasyl. Good day. I welcome you to00:00:11
our broadcast. they00:00:18
spoke to you in00:00:19
June, so I have to report there that you are00:00:23
pro-Ukrainian. Of course, as an activist,00:00:24
you left Crimea00:00:26
in the spring, when there was already a threat to your00:00:30
safety in your life. Now you have00:00:33
joined the armed forces of Ukraine, and I00:00:36
want to ask you about two things, of course, and00:00:38
about your service experience but first about00:00:41
Crimea, a lot00:00:44
has changed since June, when we last talked to you, there00:00:46
are just two news,00:00:48
you know, two in two days, one news00:00:52
about the fact that in the central part of00:00:54
occupied Sevastopol at 5:50 a.m.00:00:57
Kyiv time, a powerful an explosion00:00:59
was heard in front of them, a long sound00:01:02
similar to the launch of a rocket, and here is even more00:01:06
recent news that there was a00:01:08
fire in the barracks with chmobikes in the Crimea, this is all in the00:01:11
village of Sovietskoe, but even pro-Russian00:01:15
sources write about the dead there. Do00:01:18
you have the opportunity to keep in touch with the00:01:21
people who remain in the Crimea, what do they00:01:23
tell you What is there in the Crimea Well, of00:01:26
course, I keep in touch with many00:01:28
people from the Crimea regarding the dead00:01:30
Chmobiks, that's the way it is and the scale00:01:33
there is so large that even official00:01:35
Russian sources told about it And how00:01:38
everyone knows that if something happens, they00:01:40
say that it's a draft. But if even00:01:43
Russian official sources say that there00:01:46
are dead people, it means that the scale is very large, and00:01:48
if you compare the situation, what is the00:01:51
summer in Crimea now, what was it in June, then everything00:01:53
has changed very much, because now00:01:55
even there have been a lot of such support of those00:01:58
natives who are already really thinking about what to00:02:01
do when the bolt passes and a more00:02:03
active counteroffensive begins to enter the00:02:05
Crimea. That is, it is either to go to their favorite00:02:09
country of the heathen like a burnout, or to00:02:12
ask there to somehow change their shoes and stand on the00:02:15
side of Ukraine, that is, now everyone understands that00:02:18
the return of Crimea under Ukrainian00:02:20
jurisdiction is early. It00:02:22
will happen late. This is00:02:23
facilitated by the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively engaged in a00:02:26
counteroffensive. And the mood in Crimea00:02:28
has changed very much after the liberation of00:02:31
Kherson, because00:02:34
they believed that such a support this fall would never00:02:36
happen. What is new? year, the00:02:38
Russian army will reach Nikolaev00:02:41
or even Odesa, and in fact they were completely defeated on the00:02:43
right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson00:02:46
region, so that00:02:48
when they fled there, it was not that00:02:51
they threw their ammunition and equipment there in huge numbers,00:02:54
they even threw advice and00:02:56
You want to be there. You don’t want to be cremated.00:02:58
You will find out about it and that’s why00:03:00
they have changed a lot, well, the people,00:03:02
they have such a strong hope that00:03:05
in the 23rd year De-occupation may finally take place,00:03:07
they are waiting for the armed forces. Well, it00:03:10
was like that, even listen to the dictator Putin’s spokesman from the side, there00:03:14
is such a Piskov such00:03:16
a character, even from his block on00:03:18
December 8, it was said that you know, the risks to the00:03:21
security of Crimea and Sevastopol00:03:23
remain, well, it is meant.00:03:32
equal to such an00:03:35
official in the Kremlin, so they never00:03:38
spoke about it, and what Propaganda00:03:39
tells the Crimeans about what is00:03:42
happening in Kherson, about that cotton00:03:45
and so on,00:03:46
well, about the people of Kherson in general, it was very00:03:48
interesting how Russian propaganda reacted to it.00:03:50
When did the Russian troops start00:03:53
to retreat from there? When ours began00:03:55
to enter there, there was just silence, they did00:03:58
n’t tell anything. Well, as00:04:00
such, Kherson does not exist there, and00:04:02
no offensive operation of ours00:04:05
exists, that is, there was complete silence, and00:04:07
then they began to tell what they00:04:09
could. We surrendered Kherson there because, as it were,00:04:12
on on the left bank of the Kherson region, there are more such00:04:15
prepared positions for defense. Well,00:04:18
that’s all. And with regard to Crimea, they00:04:20
continue this mantra that, as if Crimea has00:04:22
nothing, that is, there is no00:04:26
danger of its return to the composition00:04:27
of Ukraine, but there we have huge trenches and00:04:30
other district dill on the border between00:04:33
We will do Crimea and the Kherson region00:04:35
And what is funny is that some of these00:04:38
Russian so-called soldiers say00:04:41
how well we are defending Crimea there, we have00:04:43
such good hands there now, we will use the areas, we will use them.00:04:46
Now there are three lines of00:04:48
huge trenches on the slopes of Crimea, but00:04:50
also three lines was on the approaches to00:04:52
Kherson and where are they now Kherson has been completely00:04:54
liberated and the same fate awaits00:04:57
Crimea in the future and the same apparently00:04:59
impregnable trenches as they are now in the00:05:01
area there Chongar and Armyanska are digging. a00:05:06
private00:05:09
matter is not very important, but we heard00:05:12
that the real estate market in00:05:15
Crimea is collapsing, even realtors confirm this.00:05:18
Well, they are trying to return it in a different way,00:05:20
they say, well, now we have the best00:05:22
time to buy00:05:24
real estate, a00:05:26
house by the sea, what about you Do you know this, is00:05:30
it really true, or can we exaggerate a little bit?00:05:32
It’s true, it’s the pure truth,00:05:36
I’ll tell you more, the real estate market in00:05:38
Crimea began to collapse somewhere around00:05:40
the end of spring, and now00:05:43
real estate prices have really decreased, especially00:05:45
compared to the ones they were there for a year or00:05:48
two. years ago at the same time at the beginning of00:05:50
December and the activity itself on the market00:05:54
became very low if there In the summer there00:05:56
were a lot of apartments for sale00:05:59
now despite the fact that00:06:01
real estate prices in the Crimea as a whole have decreased00:06:03
activity as such and there is no because, well,00:06:06
no not only that, there is even more of a desire to00:06:09
ask the Russians to go to Crimea00:06:10
when, on the contrary, they are trying to00:06:13
flee to Crimea. Well, we also understand that00:06:17
this so-called00:06:20
partial mobilization continues to take place in Crimea, so what00:06:23
Putin announced on September 21. And we had such00:06:27
information about that what exactly were they trying to00:06:30
mobilize, we understand that this is an00:06:31
illegal mobilization in the sense that it is an00:06:34
occupied territory And that they were00:06:36
trying to mobilize the Crimean00:06:38
Tatars Tatars I'm sorry, they were00:06:40
also trying to mobilize about Ukrainian00:06:42
activists, well, it makes sense that you00:06:44
will all be shooting at Ukrainians right now, you00:06:46
know about the course of mobilization how is it00:06:48
going there, well now summonses are00:06:51
not being distributed as actively as a couple of months ago And the thing is00:06:54
that when this so-called mobilization00:06:57
just started in the first place they00:06:59
tried to mobilize the Crimean Tatars00:07:01
this is a fact these are facts a very large00:07:04
number of Crimean Tatars wrote to me asking what00:07:07
exactly to do as to avoid mobilization, and00:07:10
precisely because of the declaration of mobilization, there are00:07:13
now a lot of normal, adequate00:07:15
people who have left Crimea, some of whom00:07:18
are now in Europe. I personally know00:07:20
Crimean Tatars who have left, some to Georgia, some00:07:23
to Kazakhstan, that is, normal people00:07:26
continue to leave Crimea because it is00:07:27
very difficult to stay there it is dangerous and00:07:30
even permissible to talk about Ukrainian00:07:32
activists there or just people with a normal and00:07:34
adequate patriotic position who did00:07:37
not show themselves in any way in order not to be subjected00:07:39
to torture and repression. Now they are also00:07:41
forced to flee from Crimea in order not to be00:07:43
mobilized into the Russian army. I understand. But what do00:07:47
you think? we know for sure that there are00:07:51
people there, not that there are quite a lot of00:07:53
people there with a Ukrainian position, many00:07:56
of them had no choice so they stayed00:08:00
in this occupied territory And of course,00:08:02
in the 14th year there was a completely different situation00:08:05
than now in 2022 or 2023 which00:08:09
is approaching, but what do you think? Can00:08:12
we, let's give it such a broad meaning,00:08:14
can the Armed Forces00:08:16
count on such an active movement of00:08:19
resistance on the Crimean Peninsula? Well,00:08:23
when will we release it? Yes, it00:08:25
can be, but here the point is that,00:08:29
well, it is probably correct that everyone00:08:31
first of all, he thinks about his own safety,00:08:33
now to hold some kind of active00:08:35
protests in Crimea is extremely00:08:37
dangerous because I have repeatedly00:08:40
said that in no region of the Russian Federation there is such00:08:42
total control and such a level of00:08:44
repression as in Crimea, but I am more than sure where the Armed Forces of Ukraine00:08:47
will start to enter00:08:49
that there will be a very large level Well, not that there will be00:08:52
direct resistance there in the still-occupied00:08:55
territories, but a lot of people will00:08:57
help In terms of the fact that, well, in terms of00:09:00
information transfer, that is, now from Crimea,00:09:02
from ordinary people and to our e-e00:09:05
special services, the army directly reaches00:09:08
very a lot of information from00:09:10
ordinary Crimeans. And when the Armed Forces of Ukraine start00:09:13
directly entering Crimea, I am more00:09:14
than sure that in all the liberated00:09:17
settlements, a lot of people00:09:19
will simply try to help in00:09:21
whatever way they can. Maybe someone there will00:09:23
try to give food or clothes to the00:09:26
military there. many people00:09:28
who have certain information, they00:09:31
will immediately pass it on, and I am more00:09:34
than sure of this, because I know the00:09:36
volume and what information is being00:09:38
passed on, how much of it and how many people with an00:09:41
adequate patriotic position are00:09:43
waiting to be released. Well, we also00:09:46
understand that detentions continue,00:09:48
repressions continue, yes, on the temporarily00:09:51
occupied Crimean peninsula,00:09:53
news appeared two days ago00:09:55
that the FSB detained two residents of00:09:59
Sevastopol, they are accused of00:10:02
working for the SBU, this does not mean00:10:04
that these people did anything at all. What do00:10:05
they have about the Ukrainian00:10:06
position is simply that the FSB needs to be trained.00:10:09
Yes, they need to show that they00:10:13
are doing something, but what is known about the persecution00:10:15
in Crimea, are there any new facts or something00:10:19
new is happening in this regard?00:10:28
the level of00:10:31
detained people in Crimea is unreal, unfortunately there are a00:10:34
lot of them and it is very unpleasant to find out00:10:37
when someone you once00:10:39
knew is detained that this person is now being00:10:41
tortured.00:10:47
to be in00:10:50
the special blocks of the Simferopol season, they00:10:52
are planning to stage him there. As far as I know, he is00:10:54
now going to Rostov, where he will be tried there in a00:10:57
military tribunal.00:10:59
New articles were invented for him there, in addition to00:11:02
calls to violate the territorial00:11:05
value of Russia, which is a full period of00:11:07
terrorism, an attempt there to commit terrorism,00:11:11
attempted murder Well, they come up with00:11:13
anything, looking at the fact that he is00:11:15
holding fast, he is not afraid of them, he is not00:11:18
afraid of their torture and even being00:11:21
behind the FSB, he continues to say that Crimea00:11:23
is Ukraine, the same situation with my00:11:25
friend00:11:27
Irina and Feodosius, who was essentially an00:11:29
ordinary nurse who she was not afraid to00:11:31
always say who is Russia and whose Crimea is and00:11:34
now she is also in a pre-trial detention center and I00:11:37
also want to guess somewhere in00:11:39
Russia and she generally came up with the idea that she00:11:41
kept explosive devices00:11:44
there at home and carried them with her, well, that is,00:11:46
just frank nonsense And regarding the00:11:48
fact that recently two people were detained00:11:50
in Sevastopol, it seems that they are agents of the SBU, I am00:11:53
more than sure that they are not that they did00:11:55
not transmit any information there. Well, it is00:11:58
not a fact that they even have a pro-Ukrainian00:12:00
position, because now00:12:02
looking at how the00:12:05
Russians are retreating the troops are that, in fact, they do00:12:08
not attempt offensive actions anywhere except in the Bakhmut direction,00:12:12
that is, at the front, they are now a complete00:12:14
failure plus cotton wool. It00:12:16
happens more and more often in the territory of Russia and in the00:12:18
temporarily occupied territory of the FSB. In00:12:21
these same temporarily occupied00:12:23
territories, it is necessary to create some kind of00:12:25
reputation for work they were guests there,00:12:28
and that is why in Crimea not only people with a00:12:31
pro-Ukrainian position are now00:12:32
in danger, but simply there,00:12:34
anyone who once crossed the00:12:37
path of someone from the security forces00:12:39
can walk up to him and accuse00:12:42
him of being a Ukrainian00:12:43
nationalist and this the person will go to the season,00:12:45
that is, the situation there is like this now, it is very00:12:48
good that you told us about nurse00:12:50
Irina, because we do not know this story, we are00:12:53
closely following what is00:12:55
happening with Bohdan and Iza, we00:12:57
talked on our air with his00:12:58
sister and we have also we know that Bohdan,00:13:01
well, Bohdan also writes letters there, for example,00:13:03
and you can see there. No, what he00:13:06
thinks. Well, you can learn a little about00:13:09
what is happening to him. Of course, this is a00:13:12
very ugly story in the sense00:13:14
that the occupiers continue to hold him. Well,00:13:17
as such hostage and we hope to00:13:20
free Crimea as soon as possible so00:13:22
that this all stops, you know, we00:13:25
seem to be a little bit here with you, we don't00:13:27
notice the elephant in the room and this is the Crimean00:13:29
bridge, we remember what happened there,00:13:32
we remember these very beautiful shots like the00:13:36
Crimean bridge influenced what00:13:41
Crimeans think, let's Crimeans. If we talk00:13:43
about Ukrainians, we understand what they00:13:45
think, but about the natives, about whom you have already00:13:48
talked, it is a little more interesting because it is00:13:50
also a symbol, it is a huge such00:13:52
symbol, one of the greatest treasures00:13:56
for the Putin regime.00:13:59
Well how did the citizens react to the fact that something00:14:03
exploded on the Crimean bridge, this is fear,00:14:06
panic, and just ridiculous and funny00:14:09
attempts to hide this panic by saying that everything is00:14:12
normal, everything is under control and the00:14:14
like, but it was very interesting00:14:16
to watch how they just looked00:14:19
at what was happening on the Crimean bridge00:14:21
but they understood that how much the00:14:24
Antonov bridge took and survived, that the glass00:14:27
bridge in Kyiv withstood the impact of a rocket00:14:30
and survived this anthem, which, which,00:14:33
how many billions were spent, which was00:14:36
built there for five years, just collapsed from one00:14:38
explosion, and well, it00:14:40
affected me very much. All the more Already on the00:14:43
second or third day, they started00:14:45
to say that traffic has already resumed on the blown-up bridge, that00:14:50
trains will soon go, and then official Russian00:14:53
officials began to say that the00:14:55
trucks will not go there before January, and the00:14:59
railway on the bridge will be restored00:15:01
there not before on December 23, and that is, the options for00:15:04
the statement are broken, all these fables about the fact00:15:07
that nothing happened, the Ministry of Health00:15:10
will restore it very quickly, no, they will not restore it, and it is only00:15:13
the beginning. And when it happened, everyone began00:15:15
to understand that the brain did not stand still for so00:15:18
long and not even there are strongholds of00:15:21
watans and panayehs in the Crimea. They began00:15:23
to understand that if they do not have time to00:15:25
demolish it by the time we are standing,00:15:27
they will simply demolish it. There will be no place to go00:15:30
because when what happened to the cotton bridge00:15:34
then they opened the conserved00:15:36
Kerch crossing, these are the Port of Crimea00:15:38
and the Port of Kavkaz and the queue there was simply00:15:41
some unreal dimensions that to00:15:43
leave the Crimea I know there you had to stand in line for a week and00:15:46
for 8 and for nine days.00:15:48
Well, and at the same time. We saw00:15:51
such a propaganda video that supposedly00:15:52
means that Putin drives00:15:55
a car along bridge, it is very strange00:15:58
because Putin has never00:16:00
left anywhere, nor has he ever approached the00:16:02
front line closer than I don't know 5000 km00:16:05
Well, I'm here a little bit, this is an exaggeration,00:16:07
but it's one thing Well, that's another thing What kind of00:16:10
video was that next, I want to ask you00:16:12
after all, and about your service experience, of00:16:16
course I saw your post in social networks where00:16:19
you wrote about the fact that we understand that00:16:21
the enemy outnumbers us, yes, of00:16:24
course, if you simply compare the00:16:25
size of the Russian Federation, the00:16:28
size of Ukraine, and, in principle, the number of00:16:32
their artillery Yes, what did you00:16:36
see on the front, what kind, well, this is such a00:16:41
stupid question, what is your impression,00:16:43
what are your impressions? But I00:16:45
mean, what did you see there, what did you00:16:48
remember the most?00:16:53
I can’t tell you, but00:16:56
I’ll tell you. The main thing is that, unfortunately, the00:16:58
enemy has a very large numerical advantage, but00:17:01
numbers do not always mean quality,00:17:04
and even there in those areas of the front where there are00:17:06
10 Russians for one of our guns,00:17:09
our soldiers show00:17:11
such high professionalism that, well,00:17:14
they can not only firmly hold the00:17:17
reverse, but also go into a Counteroffensive00:17:19
and take hostile positions regarding00:17:22
how much the Russians drop equipment and00:17:25
ammunition. When fleeing is generally a00:17:27
separate topic, even in the Armed Forces there are00:17:30
such casualties that Russia and the USA are essentially competing for who will provide00:17:33
Ukraine with more ammunition00:17:36
and so far,00:17:39
Russia is winning this race because00:17:42
we now have much more trophy ammunition00:17:44
than we received from our Western partners, and00:17:48
this indicates that our army.00:17:51
Yes, we have less people, equipment, and ammunition00:17:54
than Russia, but if you take into account00:17:56
in general, the level of preparedness and00:17:59
the most important thing is that the level of motivation of00:18:01
our army. It greatly exceeds the00:18:04
Russians in all indicators. Well, if00:18:07
we talk about our enemies, that's how we00:18:09
remember what happened ages ago. They00:18:13
appeared.00:18:15
October, the month of October.00:18:17
Yes, they appeared in the east and in the00:18:20
south. Well, now they are burning in the Crimea,00:18:22
they are going there, but in a purely human way. Do00:18:26
you understand00:18:27
the logic of the Russians in the sense that there was only one00:18:30
story when they were just watching on00:18:32
TV and shouting there it is necessary to kill the00:18:34
Khokhlovs, that's all. And it's a completely different story00:18:37
when they have to tear themselves away from their00:18:38
couch, they are given a gun in their hands and they00:18:41
have to run somewhere, they are killed, they are maimed,00:18:44
well, that is, the00:18:46
best way they can return is00:18:49
without legs, arms,00:18:50
something like that. Do you understand why00:18:53
we don't see any protests, why don't we00:18:57
see that even in their own00:18:58
lives they are not ready to fight their00:19:01
own criminal power, why am I00:19:03
asking because what you saw in Crimea00:19:05
is possible Well, what you saw these people in00:19:08
Crimea00:19:10
Well, I will tell you Yes why are there no protests in Russia,00:19:12
because apparently 95% of the00:19:16
population of Russia really live 100% by these00:19:20
ideas of the Russian world, and it is00:19:23
such a big mistake00:19:25
to think that only Putin is so00:19:27
bad, and ordinary Russians are supposedly00:19:30
good, as if they are against the war, not there 14000:19:33
million such Putins, it is important to00:19:35
understand that this is all that exists in Russia, this whole00:19:38
Russian world is not00:19:41
Putin, this is what created it. On the contrary, this is what00:19:43
created Putin. Putin - this is,00:19:46
if you speak in Russian, the birth of this00:19:48
Russian world, and why00:19:50
there is no such thing in Russia protests because they all00:19:52
support them. When the mobilization began, there00:19:54
were so many people who were00:19:56
sitting there. They were shouting on the TV00:19:59
that they had to be killed there, the Khokhlo would00:20:01
take over everything and the like, and then when the00:20:04
summons came, they started to00:20:06
flee somewhere there. Yes, but when the00:20:08
mobilization began, the00:20:10
military commissars stood, that is, they deliberately00:20:13
go to war, telling the story of what00:20:15
heroes they are, they go there in a drunken state, already00:20:18
there, starting to celebrate their victory.00:20:27
hell And now we can get out of this hell,00:20:29
well, these few are lucky And that's why Well, in00:20:34
all this, what can I say to me.00:20:36
If you take the Russian military, I don't00:20:38
care who he is, he's a mobilized00:20:40
contract worker there, a conscript, he was forcibly bent over there, he's a prisoner00:20:44
there, whom he took00:20:46
from the colony, I don't care where my he crossed over to00:20:48
my land with weapons. He is an enemy and here it is.00:20:52
You understand that, we didn’t00:20:54
come to Moscow somewhere and dictate our terms to them.00:20:55
The war is going on in our territory. They are00:20:57
killing our people. They are bombing our00:21:00
infrastructure, our homes, and then the so-00:21:03
called good Russians in Europe wants00:21:06
these unfortunate people, why do they pity the bulls, they are the00:21:08
same enemies, who are the00:21:10
Russian army servicemen who00:21:12
serve under the contract00:21:14
here, Mr. Vasyl, thank you very much00:21:17
for this conversation, please take care of yourself00:21:19
Vasyl Samoilov, a serviceman of the Ukrainian Armed Forces,00:21:22
an activist of the Crimea, was in touch with us. I00:21:25
I remind you that a special broadcast on Radio NV00:21:28
continues, subscribe to the Radio NV channel00:21:31
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