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to achieve what is the name of the film we will00:00:14
still have a battle for Ukraine00:00:16
but no wait let’s make a film then00:00:17
let’s call it let this be our last00:00:19
problem we don’t know what kind of00:00:23
film we will have we don’t know where we are going and00:00:26
who in the world knows Ukraine is a00:00:34
sovereign republic I probably don’t know,00:00:37
it’s true,00:00:40
Ukraine is so much somewhere in Russia, but in00:00:49
my opinion, Ukraine is at the edge of Russia and the00:00:54
Russians came from there, it’s true, secular00:00:56
Russia, Kievan Rus, then Ukraine is a00:00:58
wonderful country with00:01:00
our native00:01:01
inhabitants, sisters and brothers, is00:01:08
n’t this the country where there are many beautiful00:01:10
girls I heard that from Ukraine you can00:01:13
order a bride by mail00:01:21
listen Ukraine I know Ukraine there is a00:01:24
football team there00:01:33
they have dances and yes such unusual00:01:37
[applause]00:01:40
pampushki borscht became the second key who I am00:01:45
not interested in00:01:46
drunks nkuvu house music00:01:51
[music]00:01:58
why are we making this film I think00:02:01
we need to understand that granny Russia00:02:03
explain the world to Ukraine's ears, it's really00:02:05
Russia we how to make a film in Ukraine Russia00:02:07
we need to listen to someone yes why a bunch but00:02:10
went he wrote a book extremely Russia they are00:02:12
there Yushchenko is right the couple is coming mister00:02:20
President, I beg your pardon generously, excuse me00:02:24
for my sake, but where are you in a hurry? We need to take00:02:28
our time,00:02:32
Leonid Kuchma, space designer and00:02:35
politician, ex-director of the largest00:02:37
defense enterprise in Ukraine, Izhmash,00:02:39
since 1992, Prime Minister, and from 1994 to00:02:44
2005, President of independent Ukraine,00:02:47
author of a political bestseller, Ukraine00:02:50
is not Russia, which covers the entire history of00:02:52
Ukrainian Russian relations from Kievan00:02:54
Rus to the present day,00:02:57
let’s admit when I heard that you00:03:00
wrote a book,00:03:01
Ukraine is not Russia, I had a00:03:05
lot and kind of everyone, and swarmed and jokingly00:03:09
ate, I said the musical path should not00:03:11
write that forgiveness of Ukraine that there is a00:03:14
bunch of people he came up with, I thought,00:03:16
but the problem still remains for00:03:21
me:00:03:23
how are the inhabitants of this area00:03:28
different from the inhabitants of the branch visible in00:03:31
the interrogation and nothing00:03:40
dad00:03:47
is tired00:03:54
[music]00:03:59
you are very difficult 300 question is not00:04:02
different from you all- it’s similar to00:04:04
childbirth and it looks like our country has00:04:07
roots in everything who are a single country00:04:11
Ukraine Russia Ukraine heresies and00:04:14
shared reflected we all separately00:04:17
the country this is what we are different from although we are00:04:21
no different in that it’s difficult to do everything00:04:24
with Ukraine but this is it00:04:27
cultural ambiguity makes it00:04:30
possible for Russians to think that Ukraine00:04:32
is Russia and some Ukrainians to argue that they are00:04:36
still not Russian and others, and it00:04:38
seems to me that it’s very difficult to understand this,00:04:41
I think that we are embarking on a very00:04:44
dangerous path and we will have a00:04:48
lot of ideological good opponents00:04:52
6 it’s good that from Russia they look at00:04:54
Ukraine and want to understand what it was for00:04:57
breakfast because the phrase00:04:59
and these are our Ukrainians without explaining anything on the00:05:01
belt for arrest soups of days Canadian00:05:04
historian of Ukrainian origin author of the00:05:07
classic work Ukraine00:05:09
history the00:05:10
words themselves to the word Ukraine came from00:05:13
Polish it was the edge of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth00:05:15
where the Cossacks life to prove lies in labor00:05:19
with a loaf of the problem of Ukraine to that for a long time00:05:21
there was no Ukraine now there is Ukraine and something00:05:24
needs to be done about it then00:05:26
divinity loves Ukraine is an00:05:29
artificial state formation on the00:05:33
ruins of the great Russian empire00:05:37
Sergei Markov, Russian political scientist00:05:39
believes that Russia was and should00:05:42
remain an empire, people who are now00:05:46
called Ukrainians, their ancestors00:05:47
for 1000 years00:05:49
called themselves Russians, the population of the00:05:52
eastern and southern regions, with00:05:53
the exception of fish, these are people outside the Russian00:05:56
mentality Alexander Paskhaver,00:05:59
Ukrainian economist, president of a00:06:01
public expert organization, the00:06:02
Center for Economic Development,00:06:05
they talk about gangsterism everything but eastern00:06:07
Ukraine, what are their customs and so on,00:06:10
these are not Russian people, even if they are00:06:12
called, they are brought up with a different type of behavior, what is00:06:18
special about Ukrainians, that’s how it differs from00:06:21
others, pay attention to the Ukrainian road, they are00:06:24
planted all the trees,00:06:25
well, in Russia there is no such thing, well, in Russia market00:06:28
people say a person should plant trees along the road00:06:31
when there is an immense forest all around00:06:33
Kuchma wrote a book Ukraine00:06:36
is not Russia it’s definitely00:06:38
Viktor Chernomyrdin a Soviet and00:06:41
Russian statesman00:06:42
held many key positions when00:06:45
asked how to introduce him in the film he00:06:46
answered briefly00:06:48
put it like Chernomyrdin even when00:06:52
you arrive outwardly you see the border that the whitewashed00:06:54
huts and crows and fences are00:06:57
all laid out, but we don’t have them00:07:02
because we don’t have everything for this, I am politics,00:07:05
if we level the fence or00:07:08
whitewash the caps, fix the roof, this is also00:07:11
not Russia, you know in the 19th century Kostomarov00:07:14
wrote that Ukrainians are only partly00:07:16
cultures they sing, they embroider, and politics00:07:19
is a matter of russia russian,00:07:21
you have an imperial dream, and you have any00:07:25
actions, both positive and negative,00:07:26
very large-scale,00:07:27
we prefer the evolutionary path to the will,00:07:30
the slower, more conservative00:07:32
Ukrainian will build a hut never00:07:36
end up in slavery a lot of people so once00:07:40
the table came inside on the bench he put the tip on00:07:44
this00:07:45
extremely will come just towels embroidered00:07:48
beautiful giblets of course it doesn’t sound like00:07:51
technology no this is the soul of the people I like there are00:07:54
things that should be patriarchal00:07:56
forever sewn culture00:08:00
[music]00:08:02
Ukraine is in a difficult situation00:08:04
it is always a difficult situation as it is00:08:06
between two strong camps By00:08:08
the way, here you need to think about00:08:12
what he means, he knows the00:08:15
junction of two civilizations, Eastern and00:08:16
Western, what does Eastern Western00:08:18
Byzantium mean, on the one hand,00:08:21
Byzantine Orthodox culture,00:08:23
which came from the south to Byzantium, and00:08:28
Western Latin culture, that is,00:08:31
Catholic, which came from Rome it00:08:34
all started with this confrontation,00:08:36
the great one against the Latins, you can have a biscuit after00:08:39
the battle, Ukraine will always be between00:08:42
the east and the west, of course it may00:08:43
not be happiness, it may be a00:08:45
tragedy, it may be a great chance,00:08:47
Alexander Kwasniewski, ex-president of00:08:50
Poland, brought the country to NATO and the European Union,00:08:54
your film it's called well00:08:56
because there will be a lot of interest and everyone thinks00:08:59
that this is a big production in the Hollywood00:09:01
style entered the battle for Ukraine the battle for00:09:05
Ukraine is a battle for whether Russia will be a great00:09:08
power they will00:09:09
definitely come and take it for themselves if00:09:12
today for 1 Ukraine Ukraine metal in00:09:15
Ukraine metal corners the earth is rich every00:09:19
country would like to have rivers winter you are so00:09:22
lands read the00:09:24
Polish novel historically watch00:09:27
Polish films with fire and sword watched00:09:31
look there longing for Ukraine they00:09:33
dream00:09:34
that the Dnieper was part of their00:09:37
space you can never00:09:40
explain to the Russians that Crimea is not the00:09:42
place where they rested as a child and00:09:45
how to say that Crimea is part of Ukraine00:09:47
the foreign part for Russia Ukraine00:09:49
of course clearly splits into two parts00:09:53
geographically culturally and historically along the00:09:56
Dnieper the00:09:57
regions of Ukraine are so different00:09:59
they grew and developed00:10:01
existed in different civilizational00:10:03
dimensions Dmitry Tabachnik00:10:05
historian and politician advocates00:10:07
expanding the rights of the Russian language in Ukraine00:10:09
and for strengthening political00:10:11
cooperation with Russia00:10:14
Western Ukraine existed as part of the00:10:16
then-Austrian00:10:18
Austro-Hungarian Empire in the mentality of the00:10:21
Catholic world00:10:23
catalog and defenselessness Catholics are00:10:26
Europe Western culture Western00:10:28
culture in which Peter the grave spoke00:10:31
Latin00:10:32
Mazepa knew from Latin knew before the00:10:35
third partition of Poland on the territory of00:10:37
Ukraine there was no total00:10:39
serfdom throughout the territory00:10:40
Igor Mishka Colonel General of Intelligence00:10:43
Doctor of Technical Sciences00:10:45
from 2003 to 2005 head of the00:10:48
security service of Ukraine00:10:51
my small town where Umai was born00:10:54
110 years there was lordly fashion right in a00:10:56
small town00:10:57
facts Magdeburg law gave the city00:11:00
autonomy it was not the prince who ruled,00:11:02
but the city itself people places in Muscovy this00:11:05
approach was completely alien and this is important00:11:07
people thought we decide everything trumpet00:11:12
[applause]00:11:14
[music]00:11:24
look at the architecture look at the00:11:26
manner and look at the appeal of the ponies00:11:28
Panova00:11:29
coffee where Magdeburg law began, it00:11:32
all started in Ukraine much earlier00:11:35
than in Russia, so it seems to me that the00:11:38
influence of the West in Ukraine was much00:11:41
stronger than in the northern part of Russia,00:11:45
central and southern and eastern Ukraine00:11:48
is a joint product of the state00:11:50
creativity of the two peoples of the Ukrainian00:11:53
Russian and developed she is in the00:11:55
Orthodox civilizational space00:11:58
about gloriously believed for a little while I myself the00:12:01
Orthodox faith is emotions sits from00:12:04
the final and Catholics rationally00:12:05
explain God and in Orthodoxy I enter the00:12:08
church I believe this is the price sheets on this00:12:11
principle goes over and you leave the business and00:12:13
she knew it was interesting but not a single00:12:16
Orthodox country was rich Bulo00:12:19
Bate00:12:20
[music]00:12:23
the east is an industrial region, here they are00:12:25
five-story buildings live in the Donbass Kharkov00:12:29
live the same again this is a closet of what kind00:12:30
we have Sverdlovsk Yekaterinburg then the00:12:33
complexity of today a Ukrainian from the east00:12:35
will say about the Galician and I will hear00:12:38
that this is not soaring a real Ukrainian00:12:39
Englishman about the Eastern Ukrainian yes he00:12:42
speaks Russian about but moze00:12:44
so from yes you are all Ukrainians we are all brothers00:12:48
but we are brothers who have gone through different00:12:51
historical periods of development we have00:12:54
different historical experiences this is the main00:12:56
problem for you whether they can00:12:57
integrate as a single country00:12:59
[music]00:13:09
why is it so difficult to identify ourselves? The00:13:12
nations entered in the first place because the00:13:15
people were divided, we always00:13:18
had someone under there from the field to the metaplot, the00:13:21
Austro-Hungarians under the Tatars, then the participation of the00:13:25
Russian empire at the junction of all the00:13:28
interests of the geopolitical strategic00:13:32
main players and therefore, every game00:13:35
portal also identify sleep00:13:37
yourself here, Ukraine has never been in a00:13:39
vase, that’s what it’s all about and the gusto,00:13:44
well, that’s how you say it in Russian00:13:46
Sergey Golovaty ex-Minister of Justice of00:13:48
Ukraine for more than ten years represented00:13:51
the country in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of00:13:53
Europe Ukrainians were free until a00:13:57
certain time, this was before00:14:00
the wrinkles and when they elected their leaders as hetman00:14:02
during the war close to00:14:05
Swedish Poland in 1710 when00:14:09
the constitution was signed in the banners it00:14:12
was the constitution of Philip Orlik with a00:14:16
mine mask there was a prototype of a self-00:14:19
governed society in itself they00:14:23
people called themselves a society,00:14:25
but there was no state, they were always00:14:27
against a strong government00:14:28
if they elected a hetman or ataman, and then00:14:31
they asked him three times, do you want to be00:14:34
our ataman, the first time he said no00:14:37
and the second time he said no, the third00:14:40
time I will do it because if he I immediately00:14:43
said yes, everyone would treat him with00:14:46
suspicion I can rush to power with such a00:14:48
dangerous00:14:49
to careless Peter begins to destroy the flogging00:14:53
Catherine the Second lived for half an hour and00:14:56
almost all the Cossacks were exiled who00:14:58
we trays who where liberties were taken away00:15:01
become00:15:08
seed you know when they destroyed the network disappeared00:15:12
Ukraine does not mean that the00:15:14
Ukrainians disappeared, but the concept of00:15:17
Ukraine [ __ ] did not arise00:15:24
300 years ago, it took place here and00:15:28
is glad to be clear, those who made the00:15:30
historical decision to reunite00:15:32
Ukraine with Russia, which was the00:15:36
unanimous will of the Ukrainian00:15:39
people, read there, you read00:15:41
Soviet history textbooks, it seems00:15:43
like a natural thing that we00:15:44
united but some Ukrainians00:15:46
said it was wrong, everything was in some way we did00:15:48
not want to unite with00:15:50
Ukrainian society structurally this is a00:15:52
kulak society this is a society of00:15:55
small or medium00:15:56
agricultural more than 70 percent of the00:15:59
Ukrainian universe was made up of peasants00:16:02
during the revolution the Bolsheviks00:16:03
came to Ukraine three times and who supported the00:16:06
Bolsheviks in Ukraine, the workers of the city did00:16:08
not want to strengthen the Bolsheviks00:16:16
because they have all these let me not00:16:19
survive, this is still so good and00:16:21
smooth in such a good sense of the00:16:23
word in Ukraine in the first respects00:16:26
the land is significantly not sacred for00:16:29
princes, it is characteristic that almost00:16:32
every a family has00:16:33
a plot of land and it is very00:16:36
fertile land in Russia in Russia00:16:38
the land is not very good in order to somehow00:16:40
live people had to unite and00:16:43
every few years they got together and00:16:45
surprised the land in a new way you had00:16:47
good land now I’m taking it and you the one00:16:49
that is worse community world down jacket in Ukraine00:16:52
the land is rich and everyone thought why do I need00:16:55
the world I can live on my own00:16:57
buzzing00:17:11
ahhh00:17:12
Russia the community was farming00:17:15
studied for 10 years the community could00:17:19
review your allotment and dependently00:17:22
family members reduce the increase by00:17:27
forever behind you the land and the00:17:32
Ukrainians were secured, that very same peasant knew that00:17:36
this was his land and he was putting it in. It00:17:39
was very fundamental that there were differences between Ukrainian Christianity00:17:42
and the Russian mentality that00:17:44
had been formed over the centuries,00:17:55
why the Ukrainian ethics of the walls were not00:17:56
Russian, the Ukrainians had grain,00:17:59
there was a surplus, if you have a surplus, you00:18:02
have to sell it, if you sell us, it arises00:18:03
market relations for a dacha paradise00:18:05
relationship to arise, we need roads, roads00:18:08
are there because we don’t have snow like we have00:18:10
and there is less space, so00:18:13
you have to get to the next fair or near00:18:16
Dikanka,00:18:17
but he will drive there for a day and a half, the steppe is00:18:20
junk, and right there you need sockeye salmon Gleb weeks and00:18:23
what to introduce pre-revolutionary Russia 1 1000:18:30
years she suffered from famine it was a00:18:32
natural biological process00:18:34
associated with insufficiency of00:18:36
yield times the weather conditions of Ukraine00:18:38
never went hungry with a natural00:18:41
onset you heard about the famine of Ukraine00:18:44
strongly resisted collectivization and00:18:46
Stalin said I’ll show them I’ll take it all00:18:50
will come true and to Ukraine it’s really a00:18:55
basket full of bread Dobryansky00:18:58
American politician of Ukrainian00:19:00
origin US Deputy Secretary of State00:19:02
in the Bush Jr. administration00:19:04
[music]00:19:07
add to describe the terrible00:19:09
famine and a huge number of deaths we00:19:12
use the word genocide again and again00:19:14
noise of life is there food taken somewhere00:19:17
not grain then this the role of the city is no, our00:19:25
potatoes are no longer taken away,00:19:29
they were taken away from the table, this is what00:19:32
our people remember, Ukraine before the00:19:34
thirtieth year, it was a country of00:19:36
continuous waves after 33 years of a more00:19:40
obedient population, the Soviet00:19:42
government is no longer when you take it for00:19:44
this to happen as it should, what it should change00:19:47
the psychology00:19:51
we have 15 fraternal republics, free and00:19:58
equal, we confidently look at our bright future00:20:04
[music]00:20:13
from our great homeland and00:20:15
the death looms about the absence of the00:20:21
reform policy initiated on the initiative of Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, for a number of00:20:24
reasons, has reached a dead end, as one of the00:20:28
Ukrainian nationalists put it files00:20:30
for divorce00:20:31
Ukrainians want to dissolve their marriage with00:20:33
Moscow grinned at the00:20:36
strength of the current situation I am ceasing00:20:41
my activities as president of00:20:44
the USSR00:20:45
[music]00:20:47
220 the world was changing coffee on 700:20:51
UN Secretary General, Nobel Peace Prize laureate00:20:53
and holder of the Ukrainian Order of00:20:55
Yaroslav the Wise, first degree, this00:21:00
brother, new independent ones appeared the countries of00:21:03
Ukraine,00:21:04
Georgia, post-Soviet territory00:21:06
attracted the attention of the whole world, everyone was00:21:09
watching how events would develop there, the00:21:12
authors had their naked balls, but wait00:21:16
for yours for now, and while Ukraine00:21:18
was hysterically part of the USSR, then the West00:21:22
did not have any chance of even entering there,00:21:24
the borders of the pancakes of the castle but then00:21:28
the cage collapsed, the cage collapsed, the00:21:31
territory was freed from the communist regime,00:21:33
it will arise itself to the wolves where00:21:37
the West immediately appeared in the person of whom, of course, there is a00:21:40
hangar to the street in America,00:21:43
America, I carried out and, roughly speaking,00:21:46
continued the very tradition that00:21:48
began in the Middle Ages, the tradition of00:21:51
attempting to seize this territory00:21:54
Latin thought and hidden on the face of the00:21:57
United States welcomes the00:22:00
historical choice of new states the00:22:02
choice of freedom despite the threat of00:22:05
disruption of stability these events00:22:07
serve our national interests00:22:11
what in jest the Americans watched with00:22:14
pleasure the Soviet00:22:16
empire was plunging and picked up the fragments into their00:22:20
lacie smart unites fools00:22:24
share the same between the most00:22:26
important events in the world history of the00:22:30
twentieth century was the emergence of an00:22:33
independent Ukrainian state in the00:22:36
political arena, Gennady Udovenko,00:22:39
a diplomat, went from the chairman00:22:41
of a collective farm to the chairman of the UN Assembly and the00:22:43
head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, I asked an00:22:48
American politician and he00:22:52
published a brochure about Ukraine in scenes from here00:22:56
Pavel's economics from about the information business a hint00:23:01
you understand so that you could become a00:23:04
member of the Big Seven for the open typewriter00:23:07
in Washington they hoped that Ukraine would00:23:09
develop as a stable00:23:11
democratic state with strong00:23:13
ties with Europe wound00:23:14
style go employees of the US department00:23:17
with 20 years of experience from00:23:18
1998 to 2000 Ambassador of the United00:23:22
States to Ukraine he or the United00:23:27
States of Ukraine is a country in which 4600:23:30
million consumers live,00:23:31
this is a wide investment opportunity00:23:33
based on a pension in the first years of00:23:35
independence, Ukraine was the most00:23:37
desirable rich bride of marriageable age with00:23:40
whom everyone wanted to be friends this00:23:42
transport corridor is unique this is00:23:44
the concentration of automobiles and the00:23:47
railways of all the energy wires and00:23:51
gas and oil in the dream nier Ukraine,00:23:53
she is still younger than the population of Europe,00:23:56
these people are not poorly educated, many of00:23:59
them are very talented people, beautiful00:24:02
look, the crochet brothers are also beautiful,00:24:04
what is there in the world and all the propaganda of00:24:08
nationalist political forces is stronger and00:24:10
Ukraine was built on primitive00:24:12
leaflets that Russia eats our00:24:15
lard sausage and that the lard will remain,00:24:17
we will live happily00:24:19
[applause]00:24:23
Ukraine for00:24:26
[applause]00:24:31
the principle we and the birch barks00:24:33
we believed that the very proclamation of00:24:37
independence of Ukraine took us into the00:24:41
arms of the so-called democratic00:24:43
states00:24:45
turned out to be It’s absolutely not the case with the collapse of the00:24:48
Soviet Union, it seemed to me that the00:24:51
easiest thing would be Ukraine, as they say,00:24:53
everything seemed to be on an equal00:24:56
footing, everything turned out to be absolutely the opposite, we were doing the most, it00:24:58
turned out that it was Ukraine00:25:03
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we were provinces, we were colonies, we00:25:09
were what they wanted, just not an independent00:25:11
state and we did not have any00:25:13
resources to become a00:25:15
state, we had to start00:25:17
all over again, we were not an economy, we00:25:19
were a complete devastation, you know, we00:25:22
were really on the edge of the abyss,00:25:25
our currencies were our own, there was no00:25:28
coupon that we had, it appeared along00:25:30
Khreshchatyk, so to speak. for the most part, the00:25:34
budget was empty, foreign capital did00:25:38
not flow then, including they looked at how it would00:25:41
all end, we got the highest00:25:46
inflation, I don’t remember who 2 not somewhere in an00:25:49
African country there was a thing, but there was a year00:25:52
when we had ten thousand percent00:25:54
inflation, the second problem this is unemployment, the00:25:57
shutdown of enterprises, that is, the increase in00:25:59
social tension, I’m crazy, they’ve already started00:26:05
earning money and cape and what kind00:26:07
of day is this if I have smoked sausage from 100:26:10
January 1st I don’t see retirement it was impossible00:26:12
at the very beginning to buy a liter of00:26:14
Winnie the Pooh milk00:26:16
can they have a good afternoon yes yes I you the00:26:19
President of Ukraine Leonid Makarovich00:26:21
Kravchuk00:26:23
hooks there is still too00:26:24
much to be done to stop the00:26:26
wasted authority in the meantime the00:26:28
Russian and Ukrainian prime ministers of the00:26:30
prime ministers and presidents demonstrated00:26:32
good relations with each other what is this about and00:26:35
why the power up here, it seems to me, will not00:26:38
force the second piece, look at the second00:26:40
the piece begins about how the president00:26:46
you compress to well, how sharply00:26:52
they00:26:56
swear to the pink of00:26:57
Ukraine by the counselors and protect the rights and00:27:01
freedoms of the beloved and the citizens and on the00:27:04
Selyuk plane when he has already been elected00:27:07
to fasten it, what were you thinking about then on the plane00:27:10
sitting at home a lot, is00:27:13
n’t it too much I’m a self-confident person00:27:15
who decided to take on such a burden00:27:18
to say and on a European scale a huge00:27:21
orgasm to say that Kuch could00:27:23
have appeared from somewhere there, let’s just say from00:27:26
the elections it would be wrong00:27:28
Kuchma was a member of the central committee of the00:27:30
Communist Party of Ukraine as the general00:27:32
director I see Masha and was similar in00:27:34
many of the most high offices in Moscow00:27:36
so he got used to the authorities, yes, this was00:27:42
my office of the first deputy00:27:44
general designer and it has not00:27:47
changed one iota,00:27:49
as if in the south it was the largest00:27:51
missile plant in the world and he created00:27:53
unique models that now00:27:55
protect Russia is its00:27:57
strategic missile accounts00:28:04
why are Americans with 18 afraid of the so-00:28:07
called Satan because the same00:28:09
powerful combat missile was able to00:28:11
make its way into the mouth of any00:28:14
gap, so they have great respect for this00:28:17
missile, they seem to have00:28:18
named it and called it Satan themselves, I00:28:21
personally don’t like it when they call this missile00:28:22
Satan,00:28:23
although in this you know the recognition for the merit of the00:28:26
fictitiousness and power of this rocket00:28:30
Yuri Mashnin to the leading researcher of the00:28:32
kb00:28:33
Yuzhnaya there is no such rocket in the world to this00:28:39
day, the most beautiful one says this is00:28:45
Satan,00:28:46
wow, mother Rodya, I never see the guys,00:28:53
take a picture from behind from behind with them, it’s good00:28:55
because there is a lot of us here so that we00:28:58
just so that I don’t report against the backdrop of the rocket00:29:01
was in the general plan00:29:02
as in Ukraine Reed came to Ukraine at the very beginning of independence, he had00:29:07
already become a victim and he00:29:10
gave a famous speech which00:29:12
was called chicken kiev then chicken chikin00:29:16
English coward he was told probably in00:29:19
Tsera we we don’t know what to do with Ukraine,00:29:21
what to close the00:29:23
anorak, the Americans will not support00:29:25
those who want to use independence00:29:28
to establish a local dictatorship00:29:29
instead of the imperial one, sleep there, but look at the00:29:33
situation that arises,00:29:34
America is afraid 1 that the independence of00:29:37
Ukraine could lead to house this, but00:29:41
the situation continued to develop00:29:43
regardless of them desires on the one hand,00:29:44
and an independent Ukraine appeared,00:29:47
and besides, a nuclear power, this00:29:52
was like a bone in America’s throat,00:29:54
why because they would not be sure00:29:57
what kind of government there would be, they00:30:00
were not sure that they could not make00:30:01
Ukraine their own a satellite that's why they00:30:05
needed Ukraine without nuclear it was00:30:08
console number 3 according to the world school states of00:30:12
Russia 3 Ukraine00:30:14
Anatoly Gritsenko ex-Minister of Defense of00:30:16
Ukraine Chairman of the Verkhovna00:30:19
Rada Committee on National00:30:20
Security Networks long-00:30:23
range missiles were not on the council on00:30:25
US territory00:30:26
one launch rocket no california what00:30:29
president of the united states would not want00:30:30
this threat as quickly as possible such a00:30:33
potential00:30:34
deadline to dismantle the barbato from small00:30:36
how to be nuclear weapons and local00:30:40
politicians would like to leave nuclear00:30:42
weapons as a trump card00:30:44
so that they are seen as representatives of a00:30:46
serious nuclear power it was not lost it00:30:50
was ninety In the third year there was a visit by the00:30:52
first Minister of Defense of00:30:54
Ukraine to Washington. Part of00:30:57
Massachusetts Avenue was painted with00:30:59
Ukrainian flags, which, in general,00:31:01
few people knew in those days, one of the sk00:31:04
posted Pentagon employees00:31:06
arrived a little later in a taxi, the taxi driver00:31:09
was an American and he asked him a question:00:31:11
what’s here? flags are being written and what is00:31:13
happening here, this functionary is the Pentagon and00:31:15
answered how you don’t know these are Ukrainian00:31:19
flags over there telling him remember my00:31:21
words as nuclear weapons will be given here they wo00:31:24
n’t be accepted anymore of course they00:31:26
thought that you can’t be left alone00:31:29
with your problems I then pulled the trigger00:31:33
from the signing of the Budapest memorandum00:31:35
from the issuance of00:31:36
guarantees for the security of Ukraine, I00:31:39
just came as president, it was00:31:42
1994, come on, since the president of00:31:46
the USA, Russia,00:31:48
Great Britain is signing and what00:31:50
security guarantees will we write as guarantors, no,00:31:53
all this will help, with all due respect to those00:31:56
structures that are signing, France00:31:58
has not signed up to the general one she00:32:01
signed a separate document,00:32:02
the veterans, then I already went to him at the hotel,00:32:05
this one there was your equipment, the00:32:07
first one brought this document for signature, the00:32:12
method is frank, said son, they don’t00:32:16
have to believe these promises, you have to believe00:32:18
only in your own strength, no more00:32:22
[ __ ], you00:32:24
have to figure it out, here I am sitting 20 minutes I don’t00:32:28
understand what we’re talking about00:32:32
[music]00:32:36
what we’re talking about I want to understand it spoiled it00:32:39
affected the price who could have paid00:32:41
for independence now you’re not00:32:43
proving anything you just tell me why the00:32:45
missiles there are from Ukraine and meloetta and that00:32:49
the battle for Ukraine is now continuing00:32:51
we can say that Kuchma00:32:53
you lost Ukraine to the West, where did he00:32:59
lose Ukraine to the West when he didn’t00:33:03
believe Mitterrand, it’s really the West00:33:06
to Vader then I think this is a conversation with the00:33:10
80-year-old patriarch of European00:33:12
politics, the veteran was already in his ninth00:33:15
decade, the presidents of Ukraine made a strong00:33:17
impression00:33:18
on him, it was very hard for me, I saw it and was a00:33:22
witness to this, but at the moment he00:33:24
became president, the libretto was written,00:33:27
the music was also written, he also had to00:33:29
take a seat and play his00:33:31
ska instrument prix won't skeptics00:33:34
argued that after the collapse of the Soviet00:33:36
Union, the nuclear threat will only increase00:33:40
thanks to the wisdom of those who00:33:43
have gathered here today we proved that the skeptics00:33:45
were wrong Ukraine Belarus and Kazakhstan00:33:51
are getting rid of nuclear weapons in order00:33:55
to deter the00:33:56
Soviet Union from attacking the new missiles on the00:33:58
territory of Ukraine America began00:34:00
the percentage of the American military00:34:02
there are 16 billion dollars annually00:34:04
so when the Ukrainian nuclear00:34:07
potential was destroyed America00:34:09
we are relieved I think that the world should I did00:34:13
n’t appreciate this step00:34:16
[music]00:34:22
Ukraine just gave up00:34:25
nuclear weapons,00:34:27
collapsed and then NATO is expanding at00:34:30
the expense of Poland winery Czechs and has the right to00:34:34
place their nuclear weapons on the00:34:36
territory of these countries00:34:38
this is necessary this is another serious00:34:41
guarantee that we will never again00:34:44
defenseless victim of external aggression00:34:47
agatha this is not a significant event it is00:34:49
sad to forget ours deeper and00:34:52
remained the same we believe that the00:34:55
movement is not in the right direction and00:34:58
as I met with the Germans in 96 he00:35:01
was very against giving this00:35:04
why you Vlad you have not been around for a long time then this is a00:35:09
big mistake I I think that00:35:11
Georgia in the area has nowhere to go00:35:14
sooner or later they will become members of NATO00:35:18
and daughter porn c the ex-president of Georgia00:35:21
resigned as a result of the Rose Revolution00:35:26
when I leave this life users to over00:35:30
with us a member of NATO00:35:32
pressure my lord and the man will feel the mascara00:35:36
both feel Ukrainian people understand00:35:39
NATO in which in the old style in such a way00:35:41
associated with the Cold War, many people00:35:45
are mistaken and see the room as a military00:35:48
bloc more important than the other, this is the choice of the system son of00:35:51
the axis when megane in front of NATO the sky the sky00:35:54
lilyru the sands of the union Rudolf Schuster00:35:57
is the president of Slovakia believes that the00:35:59
desire to effectively negotiate with00:36:01
everyone, the basic principle of the policy of any00:36:03
small country will00:36:05
stop please what is NATO00:36:10
clothing00:36:14
above and platinum you are an instrument of the West00:36:19
why psy are rushing there former satellite00:36:22
because it is necessary to protect them from possible00:36:26
aggression from Russia and that is, the00:36:29
confrontation of what sane person00:36:32
can be against the European Union00:36:34
of course not away, we’re just saying you wo00:36:37
n’t be accepted there to eat, fools or something,00:36:39
so they can come 45 million00:36:42
Ukrainians are00:36:43
poor beggars and with their mafia,00:36:48
it’s almost impossible to imagine if I were00:36:50
offered today to join European00:36:52
connections, I would refuse, but if we00:36:56
join Europe today,00:36:57
all of us We believe today that00:37:00
the heat is high, they are of no use to anyone,00:37:01
aviation will not be needed, then Europe will crush us with00:37:05
its planes,00:37:06
many many industries, they00:37:08
will simply die and we will remain only with00:37:11
agriculture,00:37:12
metallurgy, chemistry, and all sides are not needed,00:37:16
we should be the closest robot00:37:19
free trade zone and then you don’t have00:37:22
the feeling that Russia00:37:24
will react very painfully and00:37:25
believes that this is always to the detriment of Russia you are00:37:29
absolutely right and often in Moscow it comes00:37:33
from us it’s possible for everyone else everyone else is not allowed00:37:36
you signed an agreement on a strategic00:37:39
partnership between the United States of00:37:41
America they covered up they returned the cold was wild00:37:47
and Russia stopped supplies to us00:37:50
this is everyone this is a normal phenomenon not00:37:54
Andrey Trumps conclusions of00:37:55
export there is a strategic partner00:37:58
overseas after God will help00:38:01
you this and we will help them then if we are this and you do00:38:05
n’t need this so this you won’t get to this close the00:38:08
plan Moscow some politicians in00:38:11
Moscow perceive Ukraine's desire00:38:13
to move towards the West as a00:38:15
strategic defeat and Russia00:38:18
to hit your leadership of Russia at that00:38:21
time00:38:22
looked at Ukraine with the main feeling of00:38:26
resentment, but how come we were together for so many years00:38:29
but were one country,00:38:31
historically so closely connected00:38:33
that we can and should talk about00:38:37
some- then the special relationship between Russia00:38:40
and Ukraine, a lot was built00:38:44
on the personal relations of Leonid Kuchma and00:38:47
Boris Yeltsin, Kuchma Chernomyrdin, for00:38:49
me, on both sides, the pope is completely not00:38:54
according to the lists, but everything is all 1 000:39:02
even Kuchma when you are no longer00:39:04
president said that almost the entire00:39:06
Russian oil was pumped through my00:39:09
furnace, like in the west of Ukraine, like00:39:16
Ukraine 3 Russia Ukraine other boxes00:39:23
well said, it’s00:39:24
clear the main thing about what, in general, he finished up to00:39:28
the bottom of his00:39:29
collar, he told me that he had00:39:32
never drank so much in his life, how much00:39:34
consequently he told me, I don’t know how I00:39:38
thought when I was leaving, as I was leaving00:39:41
there, I collected everything, then I just fell and00:39:44
that’s it00:39:46
[music]00:39:55
so under Boris Nikolaevich, I00:39:57
really considered him the guarantor of00:40:00
Ukrainian independence, remember the joke00:40:04
was Boris Nikolaevich there is a price,00:40:06
wake up and think about what you did00:40:10
joke joke00:40:13
goodness this joke has a huge grain of truth00:40:16
Somewhere I have a photo with00:40:19
Hilary Clint,00:40:23
this phrase from Yeltsin is on my tongue, I wanted to say00:40:26
Hilary in the morning, wake up,00:40:30
whisper on a pothole, well, what have you done for00:40:34
Ukraine,00:40:35
who did you say your report there, and I kept00:40:38
thinking maybe this00:40:40
and then not she said she laughed to live I'll00:40:43
tell him00:40:44
[laughter]00:40:57
Shannon and the mineral secretary she is00:41:00
unique and00:41:08
Boris Nikolaevich Panova's pony in all this and gentlemen,00:41:11
here he is tap dancing on all00:41:14
fronts, he was jealous of00:41:17
Doolin Gandhi. pen flexible00:41:21
very smart wise crossbreds native from00:41:25
Washington played a very interesting mouth00:41:28
they are a city so for their country00:41:30
[music]00:41:33
when you talk about mentality this is00:41:35
for example Russian taxi training to introduce it is00:41:38
extremely humiliating because he is00:41:40
used to being a representative of a great00:41:41
power00:41:42
extremely with a representative of a nation in history00:41:44
there were not many military victories, Ukrainians00:41:46
mostly had defeats, so they00:41:49
developed a type of behavior that00:41:52
allowed them to survive in conditions of00:41:54
domination of other nations, because someone00:41:57
said one of our politicians even00:41:59
Putin helped that in Ukraine there are no about00:42:01
American politicians no about Russians who are00:42:04
pro-Russian and not so much about the00:42:06
Ukrainian I said, you said the world00:42:11
today is the same, you can’t be a vassal, you00:42:14
’ll just lose someone else, especially00:42:18
such a big country like Ukraine, after all, in terms of scale, it ca00:42:22
n’t lean00:42:25
against one tree and stand firmly on its feet for a long time00:42:29
[music] there00:42:38
was warmth the first Friday is applicable only00:42:40
if absolutely necessary for Ukraine ate helped a lot00:42:43
this 3 was characterized by00:42:45
stability by carrying out a broad00:42:49
program of market reforms00:42:51
by increasing the gross domestic product00:42:54
to 12 percent in the form of the00:42:57
national currency hryvnia Ukraine00:43:01
joined the Council of Europe the road to start00:43:04
building00:43:05
steel enterprises earned after00:43:08
such stress that occurred Ukraine00:43:11
began to rise00:43:13
[music]00:43:18
roads to you is worth the level of happiness00:43:22
borders health of the heart warmth of00:43:24
any of and now we are considering the00:43:31
intentions of the West in relation to the00:43:34
bunch whether it corresponds or does not00:43:37
correspond to the intentions of the West00:43:40
at first yes, he really had to00:43:44
prove himself well in the West and he00:43:46
did it with interest watched how00:43:50
things were developing in Ukraine at some00:43:53
point Sopot began to understand that Kuchma did00:43:58
not suit them, what kind of00:43:59
moment it was and definitely yours00:44:05
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В фильме «Битва за Украину» известный русский режиссер Андрей Кончаловский, анализирует новейшую историю Украины. Он стремится рассказать о становлении Украины как суверенного государства и о проблемах, с которыми пришлось столкнуться стране на своем пути к независимости. Главный герой фильма - Леонид Кучма, Президент Украины (1994-2004). Чтобы оценить значимость Украины для современной геополитики, для участия в фильме были привлечены лидеры и стратеги из разных стран мира. В нем принимали участие экс-президент Польши Александр Квасьневский, экс-президент Словакии Рудольф Шустер, экс-президент Грузии Эдуард Шеварднадзе, 7-й генеральный секретарь ООН Кофи Аннан, экс-премьер-министр России Виктор Черномырдин, бизнесмен Борис Березовский, а также многие украинские, российские и американские историки, политики и журналисты. Фильм «Битва за Украину» ставит много вопросов. В чем культурные корни противостояния Запада и Востока? Может ли страна, находящаяся на пересечении интересов Европы и России, быть независимой? Какова цена этой независимости? Россия Продюсерский центр Андрея Кончаловского 2012 см. также: Битва за Украину (Фильм 2) Андрей Кончаловский https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEqO8dYPU8 Битва за Украину / Леонид Кучма http://konchalovsky.ru/works/docfilms/Battle-for-Ukraine/ Цветные революции https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKsnNN6K33Y Андрей Кончаловский: Россия свободна от диктата политкорректности https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jAFYExNBcw Европейская сказка Литвы. (интервью Роландаса Паулаускаса) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YK4PlCQ50
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