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Russian

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automotive journalist Expert radio presenter

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presenter of the Khodorkovsky Life channel

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Sergei Stepanovich We are glad to

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welcome you Hello Good evening Good evening

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Good evening Do you know,

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I would like to start with how

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ordinary Russians generally feel about

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car users different

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brands, there are some difficulties we have in

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Russia today. Well, for example, How difficult is it to

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simply get some spare parts for

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cars, how much have they increased in price, do

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you have this information, the

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most important thing in Russia is that we don’t have

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any war. There is absolutely calm,

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peaceful life. Just suddenly, for some reason, it

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became more difficult, a little less

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salary, a little more anxiety for a neighbor

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whose somewhere someone received some kind of

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black mark and left somewhere and it seems

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after that it was very profitable his

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relatives bought themselves a white Lada with

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money from suddenly where people who have taken up

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live without, in principle, associating themselves with

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what is happening, they have absolutely normal

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everyday survival. It’s just that it has

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recently increased very much in

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geometric progression and with

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cars, since after all, the

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car’s hunger for errors of extra chromosomes, the

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genetic code of the Russian Soviet

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person is a very important topic. a

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person may not have an apartment, may not

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have money, or, in principle, he

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shouldn’t even have enough money for a car, and here, of course,

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absolutely everything is put on the altar of this

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task, and since official sales

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as such have ended, absolutely all of the foreign cars left

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Russia and 25 years before that a

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course was taken to create foreign-made

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production because those people who

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led the country are in charge of sowing, at the time

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they are very

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limiting in their topic. And at their core

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in their level of development. That is, these are

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people of very low flight and they lived their

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whole lives in the dream of a foreign car and decided

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that but we probably need to do this

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to destroy our own automobile

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industry, which is what was actually

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done. Let’s have final

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Euro-sheds everywhere for assembling other people’s imported

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cars, but we call them foreign cars, and then

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suddenly it happened for a

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completely unknown reason, somewhere in

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February last year. Well, it seems that’s it

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foreigners took and left Russia. They

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took with them only their own; in

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fact, they took away the

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entire automobile industry. And the entire automobile industry, the entire auto industry is turnkey, and

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now only shuttle workers who have

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always been ready to feed them; they are also

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engaged in the motorization of the population,

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somewhere from where - he gets it and answers

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your questions, but what does it actually look like

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to live for a standard average person, but

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he didn’t really understand why where the spare parts went,

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he didn’t really understand why they went up in price, he did

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n’t really understand why, if before he

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came to the salon and saw more or less the

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contours there something familiar in

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outline and logo

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seems recognizable Toyota seems to be Volkswagen

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in some places Mercedes-Benz, now there are some

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unpronounceable obscene names and

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they say that these are names written in Latin

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They seem to be Chinese But that means

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we live like this but there is no stew, so

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we switch to we've run out of straw, the tarpaulin

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boots mean we're wearing elbows, we have

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nothing to girdle ourselves with, we take an ordinary

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towel, and in this regard, people are very

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unpretentious as consumers who

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have not educated themselves in an absolutely culture

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of consumption, they are ready to eat what they have and

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consume they were told this car is

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very cool and it seems there is some

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kind of Putin sometimes shows him like this on TV.

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He also did something like that

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with his leg. He shook his tail horn. He said

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no, everything should be the Fatherland and

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look how well the Muscovite revived

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the Volga, now they’re reviving it, well, they’re reviving it in

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writing. Why Because there’s

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no production behind it; they took it

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with the stroke of a pen and recreated it brand

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Hello Phoenix, now

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the Chinese are going to catch someone else. Why is this

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eighth grade that is not afraid of

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American sanctions due to the lack of

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exports and because it is

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not even needed at home, they will call it Volga and tell

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Natya you eat and there are no

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spare parts or maintenance for all of this, too

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for example, the cartoonish Moskvich,

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which is actually a JAC company

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produced somewhere nearby in

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Moscow, seems to also have some kind of

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factory, this Jacques was very difficult to

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find, for example in China, what place does he

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occupy in the ranking of China itself?

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seventy-fifth place is this Jac he

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feeds from the fact that it produces helicopters

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for the Chinese army. Therefore, in principle, he is

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not afraid of America. Nick had no

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restrictions on exports; no one

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needs any exports, even in

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China itself. But these bikes, they look

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very similar to cars. And now they are

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because no one buys and the people here have

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accidentally become slightly impoverished, but

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they don’t have enough money, sometimes stewed food, or in

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general, there’s not much here, and even though the car is

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genetically embedded in the chromosome, there’s still

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not enough money for it. And these

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Muscovites, they go through forced

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distribution, donated them to the National Guard

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for example, the people hooted because the

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Russian Guard doesn’t feel sorry for anyone, let them

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die. But those few who received it there,

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some in detente, some in excellent order,

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some, as a court decision there for your

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action, we consider it necessary to punish you with

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three years for Moskvich or five years for

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Moskvich. So they discovered what it was it’s not

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a car, that it’s a life-

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size model, it doesn’t hold the road in a straight line, it doesn’t

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go in turns, it’s dangerous, it doesn’t brake, and at the same time it

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smells absolutely terribly of phenol

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inside, it’s very unpleasant, the eyes are watering, and

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now this is coming to Russia and right there

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next to it is alarming news about

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Japan who said that more than 1.9

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nothing larger will be shipped to Russia

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at the same time, by the way, hybrids,

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electric cars, too, Russia is not for

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consumers of cars with

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large engines, and this year the

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domestic market for used foreign cars of

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Japanese right-handers is 800 thousand in

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Russia, this is a huge figure, but in fact

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it says that that Privoz Privoz is

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about 200 thousand, that is, the car was sold everywhere,

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800 thousand were sold, this is a seething domestic

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market in which everyone buys and resells to each other,

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and of these 800 thousand,

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half were engines smaller than

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1.9 in volume, that is, on the one hand,

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Russian production. As such,

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there is no Lada vesta it is produced It is

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assembled and rolled out incompletely

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to the yard of the control plant on UAZs

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The main components were Korean

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Korean now people are Chinese,

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few people go anywhere either But if you just

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fight the domina, run into it,

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calm down China is afraid of it, it needs to be

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distributed forcibly, spare parts

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have run out for everything in general for everything, right

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here absolutely everything, even for their own people through

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connections, and at the same time, Japan is following

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American sanctions because the

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Japanese clearly completely

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ruined it in a couple of months, I repeat the steps

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of the Americans, the Americans banned cars

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over 50 thousand dollars from being sold to Russia, the

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Japanese, but they actually took a different amount,

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6 million Yen, which is about 43 thousand

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dollars all in Russia, not a single car

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more expensive than 43,000 dollars will, in principle,

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now they have taken the

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Second package, the next package of sanctions

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over the 1.9 engine Well, Russia did not

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always consume them Therefore, from Japan

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That is, it turns out that this is a curve to the samurai

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they are with one both sides nodded to the Americans,

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they said yes, you and me, but on the other hand,

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they didn’t refuse Russia and therefore

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it turns out that it’s just from Japan. This is the

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last trickle of cars with engines

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up to 1.9 liters, they will be quietly

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exhibited And these are not the most expensive

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cars. Moreover, the Japanese have

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brilliant Absolutely cool

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kei cars, such pocket dwarfs, they have

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06 engines, and at the same time, their

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tactical and technical characteristics

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are superior to the entire Russian automobile industry and

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everything that they are used to in Russia. Well, somewhere like

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this, for a whole century of development of the

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automotive industry, they are

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really very good cars and

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it turns out that this is Russia, in which for

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the average person there is war, then no, he has

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difficulties surviving in Russia, of course, without

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this, for him, the

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product supply on the market just suddenly changed and before

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he could go buy a decent car. Same

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thing with Volkswagen or Mazda. And now

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he will go buy a right-handed Japanese car. what

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exactly did they do before this for

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decades and maybe there’s something

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so terrible and

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this is Chinese Well, no, in the end they’ll

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just

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come out and tell you that means

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we’ll shoot you and For all that, when

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they say that logistics corridors have been violated,

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there’s nothing like that and how

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they carried it and carry it, you know Russia, after all,

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this country of smugglers

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has been all its life and at all times, even under Soviet

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power, when there were no jeans,

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VCRs, there were no

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sheepskin coats, there was no chewing gum, yet the

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whole Soviet Union came to Russia and

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then walked along the streets of Moscow people in

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jeans that were not made in the USSR were not

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sold, and even to the point that foreign cars were

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brought to the Soviet Union, despite the fact that

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everyone knows there was no market as

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such, and now it has

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become more difficult. But if Russia manages to

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obtain American Intel

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processors and microcircuits for the

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Iskander missile and for the rest of their

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deadly products, then

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it won’t

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bring any problems to the automotive market. The only thing

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that is really serious, of course, is the

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complete absence of non-counterfeit

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spare parts And the complete absence of non-

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counterfeit, you say, important

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materials. That is,

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engine oil used to be available in Russia it’s very

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difficult to get then they were fakes now

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they’re only fakes and for spare parts

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Of course when you come and say

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guys give yours to me please as

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yours those years Look, a brand new

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box this is for your Lexus I’ll bet

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it’s my best friend who

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specially swam in scuba gear to Japan and

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back and brought them These are the spare parts for

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this Lexus, I guarantee that these are

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just normal, original ones No this is not so this is a

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fake in six months you will

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change it and actually when suddenly

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it’s unclear in February in March last

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year Well, what happened in Russia on

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TV they showed how this word was used,

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no one started the speech, but for some reason the

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special dealers suddenly ran out. And suddenly a

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huge number of

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lightly supported premium

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cars entered the market, starting with Mercedes and

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ending with all sorts of Audis and the poor

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because it became impossible

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to service them and those who

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very clearly monitor the market situation

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instantly got rid of these

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cars and suddenly,

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according to an advertisement, you can buy something that was

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not sold or offered before, that’s

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all And that’s why the automobile

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life of the Russian average man,

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of course, looks strange, but he does not notice this

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Strangeness and after some time, like in

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Cuba, there are other options no, it means we live

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behind the wheel, wear it, or acquire the

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Chinese and China since it is a

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geopolitical and strategic partner,

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it will also penetrate Russia’s economic partners,

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and the peculiarity

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is that China itself is not interested in this

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and this is an initiative of shuttles.

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That is, this is not a

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strategic move by China to conquer the

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automobile industry China's Russian market

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absolutely doesn't care about this, these are some

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single sales. Moreover, against the backdrop of

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its domestic consumption market and in

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Russia, the entire automobile business is not an

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official automobile business by the

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Chinese, these are shuttles that simply, well, used to

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drag other cars from somewhere around the world.

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Now they drag Chinese

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cars and in general, since the people don’t

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want to see the war, the people don’t want to

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notice anyone’s suffering and Well, just think, a

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neighbor’s family lost a couple of men somewhere.

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Well, they probably just drank and didn’t. And

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somewhere they were killed. Somewhere in Ukraine it

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should have been to go there, people abstract

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from it and remain in their usual

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ways of measuring the world for breakfast, there is something for

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dinner, vodka is still left for a

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hawthorn snack, there is something to eat. So everything is the same as

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before and you can dream about a car,

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before you dreamed about a slightly more recent

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Mercedes, after all, Russia is still after all, it had a

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three-fold secondary market, the primary

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market was

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three times larger, now it is becoming

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five times larger, which means you can still

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buy any car, it will be cheap, it

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will be expensive, it will be a foreign car from the

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usual cauldron from which they have drawn at

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all times, and there more Japanese supplies

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plus the Chinese

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You just know It’s very

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interesting and fascinating to listen to an

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automotive expert And even more interesting

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is

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how you take questions just out of our

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language. We wanted to ask you about scammers

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and

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circumventing sanctions and about the role of Japan,

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Japan’s interest in trade with

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Russia in the automobile market and about

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You also mentioned Cuba, but it’s impossible for an

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automobile expert not to know about the

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state of the Cuban car market, but you didn’t mention the

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timing, and I finally

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interrupted you and still ask when. Well, what

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are you? What is your forecast for when the Russian car market

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will become similar to the Cuban car market?

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or let’s say, for the car market, cubes with a

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Chinese face

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in Russia, the impoverishment of engineering personnel and

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cubes in this regard greatly benefits from the fact

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that it carries out equipment that

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can repair Russia does not know how to repair it.

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Therefore, it will most likely not be so much the

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Cuban version, which, of course, is already

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knocking on the gate with its everyday

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reality how much is the

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North Korean version when

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only the boss has the car and in the end we

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remembered life under Soviet power when there

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were people with money but

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they couldn’t buy a car for various reasons I wanted to but I

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couldn’t and this is the inertia between the

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period of life and consumption when

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I wanted and bought I want a phone in 5

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minutes you have credits iPhone in your pocket

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I want a car After 10 minutes you have

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credits you are driving a Ford

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Focus Now this structure of use

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ends and bypasses

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very quickly Russia comes to North

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Korea where you may

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want a car and you buy it of course, it won’t be particularly

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successful in terms of time. Well, here, too, not everything is

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unambiguous because there is no single

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scenario for everyone, because on the secondary

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market there are cars that are fresher and older

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than the fresher the car, the more it is. In the

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21st century, at the same time, the task before the

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engineers was set equal to wear and tear. And the fact

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that this happens and the car,

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for example, has a broken gearbox,

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the engine is excellent, the body is no problem,

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I changed the gearbox and drove off, and you have to

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come to the dealer to buy a new one, or for

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example, your engine broke down, but you

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relined it you went through it and

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drove off because there are no complaints about the body, there are no complaints about the

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suspension, there are no complaints about the interior, there are

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no complaints and the gearbox is working, so the

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car should have become equally wearable

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and this Matrix is limited in the

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life cycle and began to be incorporated into the

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equipment, we are releasing 2003-2005

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and so on therefore, on the secondary market,

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when you want to buy yourself something

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produced in 2010, it will last

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less than a car produced in 2000,

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despite the fact that that one is 20 years old, and this is 10

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years old and this will also greatly change the

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consumption structure because with the

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habits of the first buyer Right

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the first night when I have a brand new

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car from the showroom, people come to the

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secondary market very much believe in the

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fairy tale that the laws of physics are different in all

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countries, that is, Japanese cars

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do not wear out, that the Japanese laws

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of physics in Germany are even more so, different

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laws of physics, or what? - is there

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some kind of France or the same

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Italy makes cars What is Italy

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the boot freely saw it on the map and

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among these fairy tales and

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unsightly reality people will not

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figure it out very quickly, they will take it for the

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second fifth time, a second-hand store brings

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it up and when they when they wake up, they will already be

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bypassing Cuba to North Korea and it will take

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everyone differently everywhere, but considering that

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Russia is inexhaustible not in its

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stupidity nor in its resources, that is, no matter how

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much Russia is stolen, it’s

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impossible to steal all of Russia, even Putin did

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n’t succeed there is still something left somewhere

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and the local cubes of local Korea where

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everything is literally you went out into the street, looked

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at the village and already saw the end of the world there

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because the country is small the end of the world

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they see in Russia this does not happen

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even the Great October

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Socialist Revolution happened

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St. -Petersburg in Petrograd and Moscow

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reached the Far East only

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after three to four years and to

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some places even after five and

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six and here Answering your question

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When

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everywhere it’s different for everyone for those who are

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poorer literally Soon for those who

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help especially those who are on a budget. And

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maybe even never at all, they

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will find options like this and if you

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open, for example, an offer on a private

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advertisement in Moscow, then some

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coveted car Toyota Land

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Cruiser 300 is the most fashionable offer

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as much as if it were a direct

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official dealer there is no War, you

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want 300 pieces, yes please, it

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’s worth It’s like an apartment It’s 12

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million rubles, that’s somewhere, well, roughly

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speaking,

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120 thousand euros to start with for conversation

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Well, there’s something to talk about, so even

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the cars from the photo of any sanctions are new without

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mileage and then they come and they just

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after some time they will become a symbol of

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North Korea, you have 300 years of

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cargo coming and the Secret is an honor in any case

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because the Chief is sitting there, he may

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turn out to be fateful for you. If you

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didn’t do this. Well, what about North Korea

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if a car arrives, the pioneers fly away and

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take the rest standing at attention,

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the military salutes, it’s clear who is driving there.

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But in fact, it seems as if

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we listened to an audiobook under the

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code name Fear and Loathing in the

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Russian car market, thank you very much for

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your analysis of Sergei Slonyan, Russian

00:18:29

journalist emphasized automobile

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Expert radio presenter and presenter of

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channel programs Khodorkovsky Life was a member of

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our

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