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00:00:07
Good afternoon
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Please introduce yourself Grishchenko Ilya
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Andreevich please speak louder
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your date of birth 6/23/2001 city
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of birth city Kaliningrad region
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city Chernyakhovsk and your military rank
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position Private mechanic driver in MP3
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how old are you
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you understand that
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our conversation is being recorded and will be
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published you give your consent How you
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think why am I asking for consent?
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Well, think we’re having a conversation. Why do
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I need your consent, given the fact
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that you are in captivity and all this can say
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that he has no choice, no,
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we knew that there was a living
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stop, we are not talking about
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a little ago, I’m asking you why I’m
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asking you for your Consent Why do I
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need your consent for an interview You
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can refuse and leave
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here I have the simplest first question
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Why do I need your Consent
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Yes because without consent
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please Because
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Yes I need your Consent You can
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refuse we will then allow it to complete
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already a dialogue why are you giving an interview
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[music]
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so
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that they know what to
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tell
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yes You don’t worry about what
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and why we need this interview I do
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n’t know let’s think Why do we need
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this interview why are we wasting time
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talking to you
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I want us there was some kind of
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constructive conversation, as I said,
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we have a lot of interviews already recorded and in
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fact there is now healthy competition
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among the
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prisoners, so I’m interested.
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Think about why we are doing this
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[music]
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no, we don’t need this, we would gladly
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not do this if you didn’t have
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any options here, well, so that there is
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evidence,
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proof of what,
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that you are here,
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investigators will work with you, you
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will pass polygraphs, the evidence will be
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in a different form, I
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’ll try to tell you personally,
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you personally, I and our people are not
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interested in you at all.
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We want show your idiot
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military commander that you are
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really alive after all, so that your
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parents,
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perhaps some acquaintances, have started
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planting kipish there,
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especially since you don’t remember the phone number,
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we won’t be able to contact, unfortunately, I do
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n’t remember the number, but someone I know
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will see, there are chances maybe a person
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will tell you something interesting, someone
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will cut it there, put it on some Tik Tok
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Tell me,
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how old are you? Turned 21
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21
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this summer you entered the
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territory of Ukraine When you were 20 years old,
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you were the first of our kind, let’s
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call it young, liked it in
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Ukraine, they
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didn’t like the fact that they were shooting at you Well, the fact is
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that ours are also shooting in response.
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Civilians can die because of this
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because they shot without adjustment.
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That is, you are a war criminal no. Why
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not,
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artillery fired. Did you try to
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do something to change the situation when
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civilians can die.
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Well, that is, you are an accomplice to a certain
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crime.
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Let's prove why we are not an accomplice to
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the crime. We
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were there; you are cold, no, why are
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you afraid? You are worried about
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something,
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being far from the artillery, we artillery
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does not apply. I live in a motorized rifle unit
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in a motorized rifle unit.
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Tell me how you were in the
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unit. in March,
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part of this was transferred there. Where are
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you from, an infantryman,
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where was it located?
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You yourself are from the Kaliningrad region and
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served there, and you were transferred there.
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This is after the contract was signed.
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Why were you transferred
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in your first unit? You refused;
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a lot of happiness left
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[music]
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Yes How many people is
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this, how many am I not a person 800 maybe 1000
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they left for training
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or already When there was a war
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[music]
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in January
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February
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and you Happiness when you were transferred March 10
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March 10 Why did you refuse, didn’t want to
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go
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Well, I just didn’t want to, but still
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here I’m wondering why the first once
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they didn’t want it the second time they wanted it
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What changed between the first and second
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time you were a conscript
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[music]
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How did you refuse How did it happen how
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long did you serve for just
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six months
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Well, you refused to sign and you were
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transferred Yes, you arrived to a new unit,
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what’s happening there
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Yes, nothing there just to serve like that socks is
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especially bad therefore What is it to serve is
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bad
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to explain louder
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I just Why am I asking louder because
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I will get tired of adjusting the volume later with this video
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and with every quiet word of yours the
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desire to do this I
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can assume that they are specially driven there to
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torture, torment and force sign
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a contract
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No, you can’t That is, you broke down because you were
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tired and decided to go to war to
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supply the entire battalion group flew away on
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March 22
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with all parts of 12 people
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that there were so few conscientious
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objectors
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who refused to go How many conscientious objectors
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were
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seconded a lot of them but the eldest here is
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one person
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and where did you go flew to Belgorod And
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from Belgorod on the
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23rd already at one in the morning We spent the night in Valuyki
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and about 12 o'clock in the episode you are
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making me afraid of myself
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Well, we spent the night in Valuyki, which ones
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went
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first, we went into a city like Kupinsk,
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we stood there and stood there, but it
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turns out that we spent the night on the street
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and then we were loaded back into the convoy. We
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went to a
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village
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10 kilometers from Balakleya
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and were at the militia base this
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week. I
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understand. Please answer my question
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why are you 20 years old,
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I have the right to speed boy because
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two times older than you they came
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to kill me
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no
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[music]
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why did you come to kill me?
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Okay, I’ll make it a little easier for you,
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let’s imagine that I was mobilized, I
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went from a civilian to a military man, why did you
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come to kill me, a military man,
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until you answer this question, we wo
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n’t part ways.
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Well, it’s just not interesting anymore. I can
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tell your story that you stood in
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the village, did nothing, there were constant
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shellings, there were 200, there were 300, there was
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nothing to eat. Sometimes you robbed, looted
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civilians, you stood at checkpoints,
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checked from time to time, moved
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somewhere correctly, what did
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I say that was not true, they did
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n’t feed you all the time for six months
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[music ]
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They said wow and really didn’t take anything from the
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houses.
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That is, as I said
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20 seconds ago, they said only some
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pickles were taken
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where the shells hit you, someone
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allowed you to go there and climb there,
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well, that’s why you are a looter,
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the term looter, you know
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what that means
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people who
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don’t people are military
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Well, although there is nothing Sorry, not only
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the military has a marauder who is just a
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marauder
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How does it feel to be a marauder at 20 years old? It’s not
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good, don’t you look at the camera
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Tell me I’m a marauder, it’s true
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Why not
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once like You can
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[music]
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Let’s
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look well young man How to call a
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young man a person took a can once,
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therefore he is not a looter. All
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viewers who see this video should realize
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and understand that once and when, according to
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your internal scale, he became
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a looter after how many cans,
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that is, there are those who collect from
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greed, do not eat and throw away 10
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is not a looter after 10 a looter you are not a
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looter because before 10 you
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killed before 10 people are not a murderer after
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ten people The killer
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of course What about the banks when you started
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said that you didn’t take it and you’re not a looter
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the typical looter that
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you thought in your head We will laugh and
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smile here or something, you are the person who
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came to kill me, we will what am
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I even then it’s not clear at all If you
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said that you were fed three times a day
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Why did you go out,
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explain to me then explain this act
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Well, or you explain,
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let me tell you the version And you say
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it’s correct or no It
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seems to me that when they gave you a machine gun in your
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hands, you felt this
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energy of impunity,
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walking wherever I want, whatever I want, because
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no one can forbid you anything; it’s
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hard for an ordinary civilian
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or peaceful person or anyone
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to object to something to a person with a weapon. According to
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No, they were
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n’t allowed then everything is fine my version
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then you don’t Tell me why you
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did it If you were full
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When we first moved
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into this village for the first month, the
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food was still bad, rather bad, that is,
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because there was no gas stove, so
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Whose problem is it that you do
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n’t have a gas stove for
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people? which these banks wasted effort
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closing.
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Contact the person who
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may have lived in that house. Where did you get what
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he was closing? Explain to him that there
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was no gas stove, so I came to
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your house and stole what you closed
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[music]
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please, we didn’t have a gas stove slabs, that’s why
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I went into the house, I don’t remember, you understand that
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this is nonsense, I understand, I think you will ask for
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forgiveness, you Well, no, I don’t want to
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force you into anything or ask for forgiveness.
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Perhaps this person will not even
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watch this video,
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it’s clear a looter is not a looter, not much of a
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looter because it’s only one bank
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once, why did we come to kill?
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Why didn’t you break the contract?
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Why did you come here at all? Why did we
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come to kill Ukrainians?
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We’ll think about this question for an hour,
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two, three, four,
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because the
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refuseniks said, like, they can put you in prison,
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so I’ll go kill with whatever I can. sit,
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let's give another version
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[music]
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it was the civilian population who asked you
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No No, let's get the next version
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We want to understand what's in your head, what are you
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guided by,
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since you were afraid to eat,
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did you come to protect the civilian
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population who didn't ask you? So
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there is another version, let's
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let you tell us this about my
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family Maybe we'll go on the other side
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father brother mother
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places mother I don't communicate father who
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works
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as a builder back studies at school
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father supported your decision no
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why did you sign up to go It just
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still doesn't work out for me
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Why did they sign the contract
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for the Ottoman like it was hard for me at
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the training ground so I’ll go like this
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[music]
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now your father will watch this video
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today feeling
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Why is it bad you say that then I
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every minute because I was told
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not to go
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how did he convene Andrei
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Alexandrovich Andrei Alexandrovich
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you raised your son poorly because
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firstly he is a marauder and secondly he is a murderer
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he came to kill me I know you will
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watch this video
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I want you to live for the rest of your life and
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your neighbors who will see it
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Odnoklassniki Classmates
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wife no future wife finds out that her husband is a
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rapist murderer and looter you you can
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tell me 10 times what was wrong, but
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we will get to the moment when you were taken
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prisoner in some locality,
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and for those who want to figure it out and
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ask what
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locality you ended up in,
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Balakriy district, Balakliysky district,
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recruitment village,
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father of a young man, google How many
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corpses were found in the balakleya in the raisins of the
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civilian population from such
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that once does not count
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Live with it
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Yes, that’s why after all Why did you come to
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kill me Two versions do you remember yours or should I
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remind you I’m
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contacting you You’ve already
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used two attempts explain why you
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came here, the
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two of us rejected them because the
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civilians didn’t ask you or
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someone asked at least one Civilian
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came up to you said Thank you for
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coming here
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what she said
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[music]
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save from whom are the
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nationalists nationalists who are
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these nationalists Describe to me
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nationality
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[music] the
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difference between a
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nationalist and a Nazi you know
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how you can protect people from
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nationalists if you don’t know the difference
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at all who
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Expand the term nationalist who is it
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[music]
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shoots at the civilian population of the nation That
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is, you came after all to protect from the Nazis
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well you saw at least one
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Nazi, unfortunately unfortunately, they did
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n’t see anyone Well, what did you do, you
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just stood in the defense of the village in
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the defense,
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you saw 200-300 in these six months no no not
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at all in six months there wasn’t a single
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wounded from anywhere in our plant wasn’t in
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another city I’m talking about in general they
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were there there 300 were
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also like you didn’t have enough for six months to understand
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that there are no Nazis here
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everything wasn’t enough
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[music]
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ordinary quite We won’t leave like the other one
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throw the machine guns go say I don’t want to
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participate in this
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we were going on September 21st to wait
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there with us Well, the villages there were
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civilians, it’s
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normal to communicate with them and ask them to
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take them to the Russian border. Why
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September 21, 6 months, half a year to leave,
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you invented it yourself
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Yes, I’m wondering when, why not three
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months, Why not 5 6 because there
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were no replacements, that is, for us first
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you will stay for three months,
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what can I say, you will stay for three months until
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August,
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you will see everything in September,
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September has begun
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and you will
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still stay until the frost
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[music]
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What is the name of this top team I don’t
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know
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Well, someone said that, it’s
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just that there were rumors about the payback,
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you’re normal, yes exactly That is, you are with you
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Well, how is it that there were rumors about your
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officer’s shopping? They put it aside separately,
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this is normal,
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that is, we. The soldiers were on the front line;
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officers. Well,
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yes,
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but I only went to
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help deliver food
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three times a day, three times a day, we saw
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officers and you they couldn’t ask
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the officers what was there to use
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rumors in the language they didn’t say anything Like
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it don’t say who’s senior
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this is
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your position title Private
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[music] an
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experienced fighter
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Well, I don’t know I’m from Ukraine he’s from Ukraine
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[music]
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where he’s from Ukraine
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Donetsk region
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you were commanded by the DPR, no sheep, it turns out
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At first it was like he lived in the Donetsk region
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and then how it started in 1914
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[music]
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There is another version of
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the plot: the invaders attacked Ukraine in
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2014, they came in,
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I don’t know how it was there,
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no one knows anything. Then
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he went after the officers the Russian army
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Well,
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the Nazis defended you from the Nazis,
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you are a mechanic-driver of an
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infantry fighting vehicle, is it with wheels or was
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your infantry fighting vehicle parked, did you drive it somewhere,
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no, it was constantly
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driven, it was hanging, it stood like a
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reserve, there is something to leave,
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I want not to go with it like that Because she
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didn’t shoot
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like this there was something with a booger
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kazinik
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didn’t work once
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again you were given equipment that didn’t
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shoot at equipment It was issued on the
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territory of Ukraine
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You knew for sure that it
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was only used so that if you need to
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leave, sit on it to leave here
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cut to Tik Tok,
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what can you explain? You told the commander
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once about the fact that our equipment
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will not work with us. Let’s do something about this matter,
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Comrade Lieutenant, we didn’t
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have any more vehicles, we had one two
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BMP-3 BMP-2 and Kopeyka
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BMP 1,
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this is like something old
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this penny
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how many of them did the car shoot
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But these cars stood in case there was
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only an offensive
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Well, you still have to die I’m talking about the fact
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that there is equipment that doesn’t shoot
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the car is just
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something like
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standing
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guarding the equipment or guarding people
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[music]
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they just came up with so that no one would just
00:28:20
come up, that’s why after
00:28:23
you came up with the idea of
00:28:29
near the car
00:28:40
for six months you lived in a trench
00:28:45
where the commander was there Summer rain was
00:28:48
there often it was
00:28:53
once three days
00:28:55
once three two days commander I live in some
00:28:58
house
00:29:02
comrade Commander you stupidly foolishly radio
00:29:05
him who -then he allowed
00:29:12
that he died
00:29:15
he allowed everything to die the team came
00:29:18
or he blew himself up like a real no the
00:29:20
house was destroyed
00:29:22
flew there yes that is Paladin from
00:29:27
Paladin Polish artillery where did
00:29:30
you get such awesome knowledge even the words
00:29:32
Paladin I don’t know what it is then
00:29:36
well like A how you understand
00:29:45
stayed
00:29:46
it was already on the last day or earlier
00:29:49
it was the 4th
00:29:53
Describe Tell us on September 4th how the day
00:29:56
began What happened on the third day it
00:29:59
turns out
00:30:00
the bird was just constantly flying away at first
00:30:03
because they were shooting back there was
00:30:06
a bird What is ours Well copter yes
00:30:10
And yours
00:30:12
they didn’t fly with us there was but they didn’t raise it
00:30:17
because the situation was there they were hiding,
00:30:23
I understand correctly you stood stood
00:30:26
stood in September heavy shelling began
00:30:30
first on
00:30:51
September 4 it turns out
00:30:57
at two o’clock in the morning
00:31:01
three arrivals Well, let the flashes were near
00:31:04
the house
00:31:06
now The bell rang said Combat
00:31:08
readiness and that’s it Then they came Well who are
00:31:11
the sergeants went on patrol to see that they did
00:31:13
n’t sleep on the trade winds, they said
00:31:15
Give me about medovo, there’s no such thing as a commander.
00:31:21
My comrade took the payoff, ran there,
00:31:24
then came and said that there were 6,200
00:31:27
[music] There’s
00:31:30
no reason that this doesn’t happen,
00:31:37
they have to answer the question What kind of
00:31:41
thing did they come to? What
00:31:44
question We have to answer during the interview: why did we come
00:31:47
here to kill? Yes,
00:31:49
we will answer it. We haven’t forgotten about the question.
00:31:55
Well, six-two hundred square meters for what they didn’t die, because they
00:31:58
came to Ukraine to kill people,
00:32:03
they because they came to kill.
00:32:08
That is, this It’s good that you didn’t die
00:32:13
based on your answer Of course not,
00:32:16
why is it bad? For example, I regret that it’s
00:32:20
only 6. I’m really, well, in my heart I’m glad that
00:32:25
you were taken prisoner. If you had been killed, I would
00:32:30
n’t have regretted it at all [music] They would have attacked.
00:32:36
It’s fair.
00:32:43
6 two hundredths This is all from your company
00:32:49
22 they were just there at the house too
00:32:54
that day
00:32:55
they from 9 in short flew stupidly into the house and
00:32:59
there were six people in the house three hundred should have
00:33:01
flown cool Next to do it
00:33:05
already It was at night
00:33:07
2 am Dawn
00:33:14
[music]
00:33:18
In what is the meaning of these actions
00:33:20
[music]
00:33:21
the bird
00:33:23
didn’t see what the time was, what the movement of
00:33:26
the military
00:33:27
And how long you sit like this
00:33:30
can only go out at night
00:33:34
or what are the dry rations
00:33:40
among these 6
00:33:48
[music]
00:33:52
12 hours
00:33:58
in the trench maybe there will be an offensive So
00:34:02
we went, it
00:34:05
was cold
00:34:11
in the evening, the three of us were
00:34:18
captured village
00:34:21
[music]
00:34:22
the feeling
00:34:24
that you felt was a bit scary
00:34:30
So it turns out I 6 at night
00:34:34
two comrades ran away
00:34:37
somewhere too, I was left alone and here I was sitting
00:34:41
Then there, well, a neighbor was a guy, well, in short,
00:34:46
a civilian whom we communicate normally
00:34:49
In the attic there was sitting 6 days
00:34:56
Where did all your super troops go?
00:35:22
Eh,
00:35:29
they dropped him
00:35:31
there, he said that it was like we were afraid
00:35:34
to leave.
00:35:37
As a result, there were three of you, two of you ran away somewhere,
00:35:40
you were left alone and you hid for
00:35:43
six days. In the attic, the second army and
00:35:48
you had no communication,
00:35:52
that the houses were destroyed, there
00:35:54
was no electricity in the villages, there was
00:35:57
shelling, there were wires
00:36:01
you've been sitting in the attic for 6 days,
00:36:08
at first I wanted to go out and surrender
00:36:12
Then we came to Well, the owner came,
00:36:16
we talked to him, we talked to say
00:36:18
now I'll come here, yes God of
00:36:20
the post, the military came and took me away, but
00:36:23
not the military, the police of Ukraine came and took me
00:36:25
away, the
00:36:26
police, handsome
00:36:29
policemen, this is also to This applies to you
00:36:31
Our program is valid for all
00:36:33
defenders We were captured The
00:36:37
money was received everything was fine The program
00:36:40
for him 300 dollars After all, it immediately
00:36:45
arrived on the map for everyone For the
00:36:49
SBU police All the security forces who in general All the people
00:36:53
who take part in the defense took
00:36:56
orcs captive They wrote to us received
00:36:58
a reward from the orc and passed it on to the
00:37:02
police
00:37:03
[music]
00:37:08
if we So that they don’t kill you because
00:37:17
you didn’t have a grenade,
00:37:20
well, I didn’t take the unloading with me on
00:37:24
duty at night, you had a weapon, why did
00:37:27
n’t you follow the order
00:37:28
[music]
00:37:31
You should have killed yourself
00:37:37
that
00:37:39
you have an order, you know it
00:37:45
Well, look, in fact, everything is very
00:37:48
simple, you are facing 10 years in prison, you
00:37:52
know this, he does
00:37:54
n’t know, Well, you want to
00:37:59
go to prison, they signed a law for the
00:38:03
fact that a serviceman was captured
00:38:07
automatically gets 10 years,
00:38:10
the most humane
00:38:15
you want to go home,
00:38:18
what will you say so
00:38:21
that you don’t get imprisoned,
00:38:24
what is it
00:38:28
that they threw you in, forgot
00:38:35
there is an alternative program I want to live I
00:38:39
know,
00:38:40
well, I know this one hundred percent that the
00:38:44
Russian military watches these videos, don’t
00:38:47
play the lottery because it may be
00:38:49
like six comrades
00:38:52
or maybe what happened to him that you abandoned him
00:38:55
and then just the police in a fit of passion
00:38:57
something could go wrong and they could kill you
00:39:00
there are phone numbers contacted
00:39:03
received instructions on how to surrender
00:39:06
surrendered on the channel there is a video on how to
00:39:09
treat those who
00:39:11
voluntarily surrendered captivity
00:39:14
and everything is fine with you
00:39:17
the police or who took the prisoner received a
00:39:20
reward everything is fine everything works
00:39:26
in short our Civilian brought the police
00:39:30
as he was sitting in the attic what is happening
00:39:34
Tell me Perhaps this will be the
00:39:37
brightest moments it turns out
00:39:42
the owner of the house came in then
00:39:45
the police animals came in the machine gun
00:39:50
you heard it
00:39:56
go out with your companions hands,
00:40:01
you threw away the machine gun
00:40:07
I threw them away, I also loaded them into the magazine
00:40:10
and threw away all the cartridges. Why else did
00:40:16
I want to throw away the machine gun?
00:40:22
I came in without cartridges and threw it away. Well, having a
00:40:26
machine gun is a
00:40:28
chance to get a bullet.
00:40:31
But if you throw away the machine gun, you
00:40:35
increase survival rate by 50 percent.
00:40:38
Because you don’t know who. This is
00:40:40
me for everyone, like reading the instructions.
00:40:43
If you have the intention of surviving from you
00:40:47
must get rid of the weapon. Because the
00:40:49
people who are our military defenders, the
00:40:52
SBU police, and others there
00:40:58
will see you with a weapon, they can
00:41:01
shoot If you will be Without weapons, this is
00:41:04
direct, a
00:41:05
hundred times you have a chance to survive,
00:41:11
you went down, what next did they immediately
00:41:13
cut off your hands? No
00:41:17
Why not, but the Nazis had to
00:41:19
cut off your hands,
00:41:23
castrated, we wo
00:41:25
n’t check, that is, I know I
00:41:28
came here myself, he said
00:41:34
that he doesn’t ask everything, then he came for himself they
00:41:38
brought me a car to their checkpoint,
00:41:42
changed cigarettes, fed me for
00:41:46
six days
00:41:47
[music]
00:41:54
but what about the concept with the Nazis, the
00:42:00
word concept, you know the
00:42:04
model,
00:42:06
probably a synonym. The concept is like you
00:42:10
have an understanding in your head that you came
00:42:13
here to protect the Nazis, this is a concept from the
00:42:17
Nazis, the mineral population here the
00:42:19
Nazis are taking you into captivity they give
00:42:22
you cigarettes they feed you
00:42:25
this is your model concept it should
00:42:28
collapse or vice versa secure
00:42:33
you tortured no
00:42:38
you are saying this in order to but
00:42:42
hit everyone once
00:42:44
why were there so few
00:42:47
police to say like don’t touch the
00:42:53
military man what’s wrong with you
00:42:59
in this something- that is, bad No why
00:43:04
Because why do you think but I’m asking you
00:43:08
look he asked you were beaten you
00:43:12
say No I’m saying why am I squeezing the truth out of you
00:43:15
that you were hit
00:43:17
once we don’t care to give it all
00:43:20
out like this Well they hit you then
00:43:25
the police tell this man not beat
00:43:26
him, they
00:43:27
stopped hitting you. I’m asking you why they hit you,
00:43:40
what’s freezing here? They hit and hit, in
00:43:44
theory, this is the worst thing that can
00:43:46
happen from what was supposed to
00:43:49
happen.
00:43:52
Well, then it’s not interesting what happened to you
00:43:54
because then you were blindfolded somewhere.
00:43:56
hands and you
00:43:59
this is understandable The
00:44:02
Geneva Convention does not describe these
00:44:04
moments let's
00:44:09
return to the question let's you
00:44:12
answer after all Why did you come
00:44:14
to kill me
00:44:19
to protect civilians
00:44:24
to protect
00:44:25
[music]
00:44:29
let our military come to
00:44:32
Kaliningrad and come up with
00:44:34
such a thing as we came here
00:44:37
to protect civilians and I will be there
00:44:40
looting, killing
00:44:44
you, in theory, would also be a reasonable question. And
00:44:47
you were asked to defend
00:44:51
how to answer it,
00:44:53
no,
00:44:56
what’s the difference?
00:45:03
Please contact
00:45:06
your fellow citizens, if you want,
00:45:10
you can contact our citizens. That
00:45:14
is, the situation is as follows: this man,
00:45:16
20 years old,
00:45:18
came here in a day, this must be understood
00:45:21
stupid mercenary killer marauder
00:45:24
who was given a machine gun when he smelled something
00:45:27
fried when they threw him, he
00:45:31
probably threw away the cartridges I don’t know, we
00:45:34
can believe in it, we may not believe it,
00:45:36
but in front of us is a typical
00:45:39
You don’t have an education There is such a secondary
00:45:43
school specially for the specialty
00:45:46
food technologist
00:45:49
Well what didn’t go to work
00:45:54
so the employee
00:45:58
had to quit wanted to go to
00:46:01
work
00:46:05
typical Well, I claim that
00:46:08
you have no education Because this is not a
00:46:11
higher education, it
00:46:12
is after the
00:46:16
8th grade went to technology
00:46:26
20-year-old
00:46:28
dialogue is very
00:46:29
[music]
00:46:31
so-so because the person does not
00:46:33
understand the words concept, I
00:46:36
heard something about 2014 without the slightest
00:46:40
idea what was there What was there Therefore, what
00:46:42
we can talk about is sort of clear.
00:46:46
Out of fear,
00:46:50
he was abandoned like everyone else to the team by the
00:46:53
commanders, the command of which has no
00:46:56
weapons, tanks that are not tanks, armored personnel carriers
00:46:59
did not shoot, stood for beauty so that
00:47:01
they could leave with them Why did they leave with them
00:47:03
by the way,
00:47:05
it turns out to be
00:47:07
opposite the trench behind the houses Well, when
00:47:10
they started to retreat to Well, yes, the Kop and the Car
00:47:14
were standing there, the
00:47:18
Ukrainian military were standing there, they had already
00:47:21
taken your equipment No, they are always
00:47:23
expensive And the equipment was standing
00:47:26
camouflaged behind
00:47:28
I can say that all these four
00:47:30
units of equipment remained with our military,
00:47:34
this is proof that 300 units of the
00:47:38
Kharkov region are like this, this is true.
00:47:41
38 units of equipment now,
00:47:45
during the liberation of the Kharkov
00:47:48
region, our military received under the
00:47:49
program
00:47:52
before the army of the Russian Federation.
00:47:57
Yes, I ask you, if you want, contact
00:48:00
your fellow citizens It’s worth going here It’s not
00:48:01
worth going It’s not worth going here It’s not worth
00:48:05
going here Because
00:48:07
[music]
00:48:08
because it’s not what they tell you
00:48:16
How can you prove this
00:48:20
from your own experience that I came
00:48:24
here There’s no way
00:48:28
you were fed today
00:48:31
[music]
00:48:35
I know that you quit smoking
00:48:38
she wants
00:48:40
Well, we are in captivity after the last exchange,
00:48:48
how to put it in short, for a healthy lifestyle they
00:48:53
stopped giving out cigarettes because it
00:48:56
turned out that ours are not given anything and
00:48:59
Yes, it does not give how much time it takes you
00:49:05
what to eat yes
00:49:09
minutes 15
00:49:10
minutes 15 you who something is limiting or
00:49:15
[music]
00:49:18
our military after the exchange said that they
00:49:21
were given 30 seconds by
00:49:24
your fascists.
00:49:26
You will have time in 30 seconds. You do
00:49:31
n’t want to take part in the experiment. I
00:49:35
know that there will be dinner soon and we’ll try. Well, that
00:49:37
is, you will get your food and I
00:49:41
will film how can you
00:49:44
process eating in 30 seconds
00:49:49
this is our defenders in captivity like this they
00:49:53
feed
00:49:58
please comment
00:50:04
I don’t know you are
00:50:06
shaking so
00:50:09
there is something for me some questions
00:50:11
maybe no Are you happy that you
00:50:16
really wanted No he has a phone number he
00:50:19
can’t call anywhere The only
00:50:21
hope is that someone will see and reset If
00:50:25
someone finds out the phone number, there are
00:50:29
my contacts in the telegram, you can write and I
00:50:34
will provide the opportunity

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