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Kaan engine Hopefully TR engine By the way,

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this will officially become a Declaration

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Yes, I was going to say that,

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engine then, is there no castle, is there a sub-

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contractor? Kale vall direct. There is no such thing as a

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sub-contractor. There

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has never been an official statement about this, hasn't it for a long time No

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no no Anyway The problem is that

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you are building the plane, there is nothing about the engine of the plane, I mean there is

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no R&D Agreement for the engine of the plane,

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but you know it is being worked on, but there

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is no R&D Agreement for the engine of the plane, all I know is

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TR engine, isn't it the main contractor, sir? It is

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not clear. Exactly. TR

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engine. Exactly. TR engine will do the thing.

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What is officially announced right now? TR engine

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will make Kaan's engine, but will it

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break it down as a project? Or will

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it give it to someone as a single piece? Or will

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it say "No, brother, I'm doing it?" There

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is nothing official about it, no explanation, agreement. There is no R&D Agreement

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etc., but everyone is working, we are

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working with the Ukrainians, we are working on the Kaan engine, we are getting consultancy with Rolls Rus,

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I don't know what

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we are doing, it is all in the statements, but

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who will do what?

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Ambassador Kaan says

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that we are making the engine together with Turkey,

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they say "do it, they say it is from our side", I say "from our

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side". Is there anything about it? I

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have not heard of it, because there is. Well,

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I read a statement. I mean, I guess who did it again? It's like

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Temel Kotil did something like that.

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I remember that there was something like that, but

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I'm not sure.

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There was something like that by either Kotil or Temel Kotil or Akşit.

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Yes Yes Yes, well, did Rolls Roy opt

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out of the committee? At that time,

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it never got involved, it was the intention to get involved, the

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last thing was

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not in time. In one of the two, in 2023 or 2022,

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İsmail Demir made a statement at that time. He said, "There

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were some issues that we could not agree on, we resolved them and

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we will move forward" or something like that. If

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I remember correctly, there was a conversation that

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did not follow up, but I

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don't know about that issue either. In fact, Kozan AB just

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said it. We have talked about it many times,

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so there is a soup and there is

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nothing official about who is doing what in this soup.

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Yes, and this soup

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needs to deliver the engine within 5 years. Yes, it

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needs to be developed and delivered. You know, the thing is

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not to produce an engine,

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you know,

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what is this in 5 years? So, on average, it takes about 3 years for

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the design to be completed completely.

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Okay, how many years did it take for tf6 to be completed? When

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did you remember the official date? I think it was

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2018-19.

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Yes, I remember it was 2018, too,

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but it could have been 2019, so

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I remember it in those years. It's like this

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Okay, come on, the speed hasn't been announced yet, is

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n't it Kadir? It wasn't public at that time, I

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guess it was, but as far

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as I know, the

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start date is 2018-19, which is

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a fast period, let me tell you that,

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you know, he is really good about the engine, I

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mean Faruk Akşit Hodja is really good in his field.

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He is a name,

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he said something in a conversation with him somewhere, he

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said, you know, Americans have

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been doing this job for 10-122 years, they have so many tools and things in their hands, he

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says we are doing it very fast,

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it is literally like that, you know, look, for example, look at it one by one,

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I don't know.

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Look at the Trend engines in civil aviation, they are

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always very long. You know, he

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is doing a really fast job in this regard, but

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we have just fired the TF 6.000.

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After that, he has a ton of tests, altitude

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tests, oyu buyu etc.,

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so he has a lot of work to do. Another problem is

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where will you do the altitude test? In the castle.

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Okay, you will do it in the laboratory of the castle.

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Where

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will you do the environment test? I mean,

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something needs to be done from platform to platform. If

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it is not there, there is an altitude test device in the castle,

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but there is only one in Kaled. I

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think the TEI was setting it up,

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I am not sure about that. But Kalen will probably

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handle 6,000, but 35,000 wo

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n't anyway, you know, the 6,000 engine will

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probably lift Kale's test bed,

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but you know, where will you test this,

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in reality, like the Indians? Are you

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going to put the Russians' UIN 76 and have the Russians test it?

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That would be something within the scope of bel ö Özgür.

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Bro,

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I know you are going to test the engine with a single engine plane and a piloted plane.

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Let's connect it. Let's at least give it to our minds.

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You are right, bro. That's what I'm

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trying to find out right now. Also, understand me. I mean,

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China did its own thing and

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tried it on its own cargo plane. After that, he flew a thing with a twin

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engine for a very long time, more than

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a year. He flew

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someone with an engine for about 2 years. He

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flew the thing with his own engine. They

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blended the thing with his own engine. I will also ask something about the thing for a year or so.

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I don't know about that subject, too, with Kaan's engine.

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I'm asking out of curiosity, has there been

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a statement regarding the transfer?

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It won't be there. It won't happen. It won't happen. It was said that it

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wouldn't happen in the first place. Let's put it that way. Well, it's something that was officially said. Of course, they wanted it to happen at first, so it wasn't among them.

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It was mentioned occasionally, because

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I look at things and so on, and

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I also make comparisons. If you remember back in the day,

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something was being talked about in the first years. It was

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an upgraded and developed

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version of E EJ 200.

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E220, which R Roy was hot about. There was something like this at that time.

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I remember some things like this, 3 or 5 or so.

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Of course, when we look at the first expectations there and what is now, there

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seems to be a lot of difference, that is,

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if I am not mistaken, Temel Kotil had already made

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a statement saying that it will not happen at first.

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So, the transking issue is a subject that will tire us a lot.

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In the light of our current capabilities, first let's build the engine with dignity,

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then I think the

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need for trust vectoring is very urgent and fast anyway.

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No, it is not that fast right now. What we

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need is an F15 with a lot of horsepower. We are

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trying to do that anyway. I mean, it

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also has low visibility. When we keep it

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at the levels we want, it's more than enough for us.

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We took 3 hours and 20 minutes. By the way, slow balling is important,

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brother, it's important too, isn't it? Let

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me say something like this, we

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are talking about things a lot now. You know,

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some things come to the fore on a subsystem basis,

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here is the AAS radar pod. I don't know,

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we talk about all mission systems specifically,

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and

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let me say something like this. As

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far as I can see, it is like this. Well, the real annoying

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points, the real problem, the creative points, are

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a little more classical.

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The systems in the background, for example, here are the power distribution, power

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distribution modules, I don't know, here is the flight

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controller, mission computer, whatever is

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inside, I don't know,

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different encoding units, signaling,

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etc. These are some more things,

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problematic issues here. Well,

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nothing is happening there either.

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Since there are not many such things like laws and yeast,

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there is no public opinion on those issues, but

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I think we need to look at those areas. Because if you

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remember, we

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have a strategy like this lately in things, we have to

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work determinedly like this while making the product. Well, but we are

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outsourcing the things that do not have a mission system, so as not to

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fly the plane fast. Otherwise, for example, today, if you say

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something like plane

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I will fly it, I will do this. If

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you try to do all of them one by one, it

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will take too long. These are system integrations and

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things that take a long time, but this is how

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you do it to fly it faster. On the one hand,

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the system is working.

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Think about their stability as a very important thing. As

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you just said, sir, here

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I am, this device that will draw 100 kW.

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There is a radar, you put it in it, 100 kW, 50 kW. Anyway, it

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draws something. I'm giving an example.

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Where do you get it from? You go, you have a generator,

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it has a turbine connected to the engine,

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you produce it from there,

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you put a rectifier circuit, the power is distributed, it isolates that line and

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prints it. For example, when that radar

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draws peak current, when it is loaded, it is on it.

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If the line doesn't handle it, this time other

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places will start to explode or

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you won't be able to give it what it wants, I

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have a radar, I have an engine, I have a plane, can't you

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feed it stably and

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its ability decreases? This time, your radar is a

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pod. Anyway, we have experienced these a lot in things, for example,

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you just threw it at me,

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designator, says Gadir, a friend says

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designator. Let me give you an example and it

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usually starts when it loads. For example,

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let me say something like this.

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In systems that draw a lot of load like this,

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the designator in a camera puts a separate

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power port, for example, its power

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comes to it completely separately, that is, the

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camera does not have a single power input.

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For example, these toilets are like this, they are big.

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There are two different power inputs in the systems,

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they call it discrete port, it is pumping like crazy from there and

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a completely separate output.

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For example, but the camera is

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not recording anything, where does it draw, maximum for the first 8 and

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10 minutes, while it is cooling, for example, when Sterling

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or Jul Thompson is working,

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it draws there, and on the radar side,

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you do not use it at full capacity all the time. But

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when you use it, it should give you that power.

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Yes, just like you said,

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try to make them all local,

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you are experiencing the tejas thing,

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you will experience the fiasco. Our way is right in that regard, you know,

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fly it. I think it is more correct to talk about placing the systems and

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then working. Then, while

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continuing,

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I think it is more correct to install them.

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Simultaneously, yes, but on the other hand, they are all

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progressing anyway, but here

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you are supplying them. As long as you can get them, it's okay.

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I think for the first few products

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