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Gogol Center from the last performance, an00:03:47
interview with Yulia Aug, let’s talk about00:03:52
this topic, I think it’s a very important00:03:54
issue and Ksenia Sobchak00:03:56
Afghan lessons and interviews sitting00:03:59
gypsies new here complain that we00:04:02
pay a lot of attention to00:04:04
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I can just say our justification is00:04:09
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it bears fruit00:04:16
every week,00:04:19
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further the editors also have issues every00:04:29
week from the editorial office of Alexey00:04:31
Pivovarov, these are, firstly, news00:04:34
releases and secondly, a special one, Ira00:04:37
drew my attention to the issue of the Old Believers, they00:04:39
dodged00:04:41
unusually interesting, I would like to00:04:44
talk separately, too, a wonderful00:04:46
full Albats, this is the channel of our colleagues, I am00:04:50
Evgenia Albats, who called00:04:52
we are doing Evgenia Albats, everyone by the way,00:04:56
literally with us in parallel here00:04:58
you can’t guess, be sure to then watch00:05:00
today’s episode Evgenia Albats over the00:05:02
simple didn’t just hit the heart00:05:05
I don’t know if I looked at it or not I didn’t00:05:08
look at where Andrey Loshak was or00:05:10
there will be beeps this is just for in the wake of00:05:12
Andrey Loshak’s film, which we talked about00:05:15
in detail, breaking the connection,00:05:17
the fight against propagandists is a whole topic,00:05:20
since every self-respecting YouTube00:05:22
channel starts a special program00:05:25
dedicated to propaganda and tries00:05:28
as best they can to expose it and troll at00:05:32
the bottom, mock, mock and generally somehow00:05:34
teach viewers to throw it away the TV is not00:05:38
with varying success, let’s say not00:05:40
everyone will find the exact intonation about this,00:05:43
we’ll also talk about it,00:05:44
by the way, there is also about popular00:05:47
politics fighting propaganda and love00:05:49
sable on the channel nova my life news00:05:53
naturally and the zombie box or hissed on and00:05:56
the fan program that is on the00:05:59
Khodorkovsky channel life they are all fighting00:06:02
as propagandists unsuccessfully while00:06:06
fitness Masha Borzunova interviewed00:06:09
Katerina not Volkov and he Russian women00:06:11
who barely survived the bombing of Kiev00:06:15
on the very same residential building00:06:18
where the rocket bomb hit a00:06:23
simple and piercing interview from the00:06:25
hospital00:06:27
interview and Dmitry Krymov with Anton00:06:29
valley on the radio Dulin Dmitry Nazarov in00:06:32
which we are 65 years old today, congratulations on the00:06:35
wonderful mission of the actor who, it00:06:38
seems to me, is now experiencing much of a00:06:40
second wind,00:06:41
since now he acts more as an00:06:44
author, performer, but does not play the guitar,00:06:47
but composes wonderful topical00:06:51
works of a satirical nature of00:06:53
this fable, poetry and reads in00:06:56
my opinion, he himself does this embellishment, he was visiting00:06:59
Bogdan battery and Dmitry disk, then00:07:02
forgive him, they have their own on their channel too, I00:07:05
also want to mention Ira, you should not00:07:07
understand and forgive because in the00:07:09
end they were promoting themselves and people,00:07:11
but here’s the sundress sphere in which was my00:07:15
guest on inside belts, it seems it was a00:07:16
very good conversation and those who00:07:18
missed it, look at the man, he’s just a00:07:20
wonderful guy, but on the air Matvey00:07:23
Ganapolsky on war and peace of science in00:07:26
February and Gonopolsky unlimited on00:07:28
direct on or let’s talk about this separately,00:07:30
accidents yesterday I was00:07:33
under great impression, I accidentally found out00:07:34
that the concert was canceled again 2can00:07:37
church or an accident00:07:39
when the tickets sold were canceled and everything was00:07:42
canceled and00:07:46
reported this by the way, the head of the club himself00:07:49
announced on their website that they were canceling the concert under00:07:52
pressure from government bodies, an00:07:54
accident and Alexey00:07:57
Kortnev and the team decided hold this00:08:00
concert after all for your listeners00:08:03
for viewers on the boob network on your00:08:06
youtube channel wonderful yesterday00:08:07
watched 3 Besogon Federal TV. this is00:08:11
like a separate page00:08:13
that Irina Petrovskaya will tell us about it,00:08:15
well, I’ve read everything,00:08:18
some additions,00:08:20
recommendations, your calls, your questions for00:08:23
all the children of the broadcast, now during00:08:26
this broadcast we will definitely contact you00:08:29
and read it, let’s start from the end, what’s up00:08:32
with Miss Agon our beloved without fire00:08:35
without argon achieved incredible success and00:08:39
according to the results00:08:41
of the00:08:43
ratings last week it came out in00:08:46
first place,00:08:47
ahead of the evening with Vladimir Solovyov00:08:50
with an incredible for current practice00:08:55
television share of 30 percent of00:08:59
viewers. I tried to look so literally00:09:03
out of the corner of my eye what was going on there inspired00:09:06
it was called it was called it bloody00:09:10
liberties00:09:11
liberty yes roams Europe well what I00:09:16
looked at in the plans of Europe and America00:09:19
Asian removes the channel once Condoleezza00:09:24
Rice they hid a long time ago there was an idea of00:09:28
rotation to defeat00:09:31
Russia and00:09:34
the hegemony of the United States to put it on the bummer to00:09:38
install it on the ruins of Russia and Then00:09:42
this simple idea turns out in different ways,00:09:45
but apparently it stuck00:09:48
with the soul of00:09:50
its audience, that Besogon00:09:54
took first place, while00:09:58
absolutely refuting our various00:10:01
fabrications, he talked about the fact that00:10:05
propaganda00:10:07
can someday get boring and00:10:09
someday in such quantities and the quantity is00:10:13
not decreasing00:10:14
it will lead to the opposite result as00:10:18
we thought, then any redundancy00:10:20
turns into the fact that in the beginning it does00:10:23
n’t get used to thinking, it’s just boring,00:10:26
that’s nothing like that, we all have to00:10:29
admit, hand on heart, we00:10:31
were wrong,00:10:33
from which one is Besogon’s rating growing,00:10:36
specifically, yes, but with him I00:10:40
it seems there is one difference that00:10:42
allows him to become a leader00:10:45
because, unlike the weak one and his00:10:48
other accomplices who are endlessly00:10:50
yelling, they spew curses at someone,00:10:54
and sometimes at each other and throw themselves00:10:58
and so on00:10:59
Nikita Sergeevich,00:11:02
apparently many people buy many viewers,00:11:05
the manner of this00:11:08
sincere, as we know, the story is00:11:11
not clinical, he doesn’t yell, he doesn’t swear,00:11:15
he’s just like an unreasonable figure, he00:11:18
explains how long ago it turns out that all this00:11:22
was planned, how long ago it seems like00:11:25
they started this, to carry out their00:11:29
insidious idea and00:11:32
bleed our country, and then it’s00:11:35
completely her to divide the00:11:39
kingdom there and even the regions into different principalities and00:11:42
thus00:11:43
get rid of Russia as a competitor00:11:47
there, the enemy is very clear, I00:11:51
think it attracts a considerable number of00:11:54
people when you take it off just talking,00:11:57
you know, give it to a propagandist00:12:00
to change it, ending with another propagandist00:12:03
and a stream00:12:05
splashing with saliva, it00:12:08
turns out to be a note this kind of style of communication with the00:12:11
viewer00:12:13
youth Lauren propagandist note00:12:16
here by the way, I just wanted to add something00:12:19
about Nikita Mikhalkov, his besogon and00:12:22
I all the time watch how he conducts00:12:26
his activities and educational activities in00:12:30
quotes and in the occupied territories00:12:31
and this, by the way, is also for sure mouths look at00:12:34
these shots that in the occupied00:12:38
Ukrainian territories, after all, for and even Mariupol,00:12:41
Kherson and some other00:12:44
places where they bring not only00:12:46
mobile00:12:48
TVs that open huge00:12:51
but on the car these taps open00:12:53
there from the street end of the program to conduct00:12:57
I’m actively watching there and Nikita00:12:59
Mikhalkov is00:13:00
being promoted, I think that they just00:13:02
understand what you said, that the people who00:13:06
are now in a state of00:13:07
extreme unhappiness and extreme disaster, having00:13:11
lost everyone who remain there in00:13:14
these territories00:13:15
next to it is00:13:16
unclear above him and to whom they00:13:18
belong to it is not clear what their status is and00:13:21
it is clear what will happen to them with their home from work and00:13:23
so on with their family they just need00:13:26
names such as probably a00:13:27
terrorist conversation such00:13:29
intonation do not offend do not shout as you00:13:32
noticed yes and so soulfully00:13:35
launch your tongue like a snake’s sting penetrated00:13:37
into the penetrating as00:13:40
deeply as possible and as not00:13:42
by chance as possible, we expressed 5 but the fact that00:13:46
I have folders in the hall tweezers00:13:49
caught fire daddy is so magical00:13:50
telegram channel their meta with besogon00:13:53
I regularly receive urgent00:13:56
information,00:13:58
special release from the pen with subtitles00:14:00
in the Hindi language00:14:03
there is no rod, I swear to you, here you go,00:14:06
we bring to your attention an emergency00:14:09
release of Besogon TV with subtitles in Hindi,00:14:11
share with friends and acquaintances for00:14:14
whom the translation may be useful, I am someone who00:14:16
wants to spread the00:14:19
influence of this coverage there, and even to other00:14:24
interesting countries world and the rest Makar00:14:27
Nagulnov remember the dude00:14:30
who dreamed of a world revolution00:14:33
for this I learned English such an00:14:35
ominous singing is added at the end and I,00:14:38
on the contrary, I00:14:40
remember a closer character who00:14:42
recently died is Vladimir00:14:44
Zhirinovsky who, as we remember, promised00:14:48
during what color of the election00:14:50
campaign00:14:51
that the soldiers ours will wash their00:14:55
boots in the waters of the Indian Ocean00:14:58
in this way, if not soldiers, then at00:15:03
least someone will wash them with something to00:15:05
cool them down.00:15:07
I think that yes, of course you are right that00:15:10
intonation is of enormous importance and00:15:14
maybe they listen in sixth00:15:16
gear because so00:15:17
much has been said about this too, especially to yours in00:15:20
our new capacity, now00:15:23
explaining, trying to understand, explain after00:15:26
all, what is the meaning of all our YouTube00:15:28
meetings, it is precisely in that very00:15:31
correct intonation that was found that00:15:33
intonation today is more important than information, I00:15:35
insist on this, it seems to me that for people,00:15:38
this is very important, but if suddenly they understand00:15:41
this and try to switch to00:15:42
human intonation through all their00:15:44
channels, it seems to me that they won’t succeed,00:15:47
so I also wanted to order that00:15:51
since and for how many years they00:15:54
have been arriving in this00:15:57
endless chauvinistic00:15:59
hatred00:16:01
misanthropic and the screams00:16:04
change their intonation even when the same00:16:07
Soloviev at his Solovyov live shows00:16:11
somehow tries00:16:14
to talk more or less normally here00:16:16
and what really comes out is just a snake hiss,00:16:18
they have lost, it seems to me, the ability to00:16:21
speak calmly as a human being at all00:16:24
with a person looking into his eyes they can’t00:16:27
only in this one, well, you can say that00:16:30
it’s almost like a rally, you and the elements,00:16:32
because when they stand there in the studio with00:16:36
seven or eight people, their main task is,00:16:38
firstly, to yell at each other and00:16:40
secondly, this is this escalated00:16:44
degree of aggression00:16:46
hatred to convey apparently to my viewer, I’m00:16:48
thinking when I get tired of this00:16:52
visual for now since Solovyov is in00:16:54
second place, it looks like some kind of00:16:59
stupefying intoxicating albino00:17:03
hippo isn’t even hypnosis, but people there00:17:06
start to drink something until they become crap and then00:17:10
to this they just really get used to it, they become00:17:12
addicted, but that’s also how00:17:14
this specific addiction often happens, the00:17:17
purest water, the purest00:17:20
mineral water, I have wonderful water with00:17:23
lemon, we have wild heat again, it’s00:17:25
tropical and that’s why all day long00:17:28
you think about drinking something like this, meanwhile they come to us for00:17:32
donations and it’s necessary note00:17:35
a huge thank you Lenya Dietrich who00:17:38
sent us given from with the words a huge00:17:40
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greetings from Munich I have00:17:48
not seen yet I can’t read it in the name of the00:17:51
person who also sent us yes above the00:17:53
wishes of success thank you very much there is00:17:56
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and Cheslavovna yes what did you send00:18:01
Donat us and wrote yes thank you for you00:18:04
thank you very much dear friends well, it’s just00:18:06
nice to look at such beautiful00:18:08
red-haired telegrams that we receive00:18:11
and the Ulyanovsk region welcomes us00:18:13
Antokha na Dusseldorf Ira00:18:19
Kazan Margarita Yakubovich Yulia Grishina00:18:22
Cherepovets happily came into my00:18:25
beloved living room today broadcast and brought the00:18:27
best people to the people of the planet from the Philippines,00:18:31
thank you very much for being with us,00:18:33
dear friends, send your questions00:18:35
even though the broadcast will definitely00:18:38
answer the leg and we started with propaganda,00:18:41
let’s touch on this topic that is00:18:42
stated on our list, these are00:18:45
attempts with this fight with propaganda and00:18:47
the first were probably back in the era of rain a00:18:50
group called the fake news team, which00:18:54
actually started this path, the main one in00:18:57
exposing fakes, in exposing00:18:59
early exposure of propaganda lies,00:19:03
but now a sufficient number of00:19:06
various leading journalists on00:19:09
different channels consider it their00:19:12
duty to obligatory as00:19:15
a section or an entire program, a separate00:19:17
fight against propagandists and00:19:21
propaganda products, my question00:19:23
or even suggestions on this topic to00:19:25
talk about, since you and I are looking at a lot of00:19:26
things, how effective this kind of00:19:29
fight is for everyone and to whom it is00:19:31
actually intended, to whom it is00:19:33
addressed, of00:19:36
course it is ineffective because it00:19:39
a shot from a cannon at sparrows and00:19:41
because they are watching this compared to how00:19:44
many people are watching the propaganda00:19:47
shows and news, yes, this is a00:19:50
drop in the ocean, this is negligible, but there are00:19:55
some people, I think, and they will be00:19:57
the most, I think they are probably the00:20:01
most Valuable is the00:20:03
target audience of this kind of00:20:07
programs who00:20:09
watch, of course,00:20:12
the rotation,00:20:14
watch the propaganda show, watch00:20:17
the news, but some kind of worm of doubt00:20:21
gnaws at them for various reasons,00:20:25
something doesn’t add up, the00:20:28
information is contradictory or00:20:30
contradicts yesterday’s, and people who still have it00:20:34
and either originated or00:20:38
always was but weakened under the influence of00:20:41
propaganda,00:20:42
this is a certain critical mindset00:20:46
that is used to, I think, and which in00:20:50
general is not used to even00:20:53
questioning it, and with specific examples00:20:56
it is very important what00:20:59
our mentioned colleagues do, they take a specific example00:21:03
and analyze it as someone -that explains how00:21:07
it’s done and that00:21:09
means how it really was, which is very00:21:12
important because you really00:21:16
look at the hour and are amazed, especially when you00:21:19
know how it really was, it will go out for the00:21:22
hour of the forgery to expose the forgery. from the00:21:26
lowest forgery of00:21:28
a fake, yes, that is, what is now00:21:32
called by the nasty word fakes, but in00:21:34
fact, earlier in our native language00:21:37
it was called fake ducks that00:21:40
fly with terrible force of a special00:21:42
condition when it is impossible or very difficult00:21:46
to check how it really was,00:21:48
since these programs are made by00:21:50
professional people they perfectly00:21:52
see the mechanism for creating this thing00:21:55
that is given to us under the guise of00:22:00
facts and00:22:01
for this part of the people this is very00:22:04
important, this is what they are trying to do today, I00:22:08
think they will completely eradicate it from00:22:11
various humanitarian universities where there was even a00:22:13
discipline of media literacy then00:22:17
there are times when teachers, using specific00:22:19
examples,00:22:20
explained how00:22:23
to recognize, recognize fakes,00:22:25
recognize manipulation, this is the whole thing, because00:22:29
art, propaganda is not just00:22:32
today, on the contrary, Irochka, I assure you that over00:22:36
time, whole directions will definitely appear00:22:38
department of creating00:22:41
cakes department of skillful pro pack how to00:22:44
create for will skillfully teach00:22:47
the art of propaganda is exactly the opposite,00:22:49
which today I even see even00:22:52
teachers, I even see these people00:22:55
who will teach this with their 3000:22:58
experience and skill, I even see students00:23:01
who want to00:23:02
learn this because it00:23:05
pays well, by God you will ride like00:23:08
cheese in butter or whoever chocolate and00:23:11
star chocolate, everything will be fine,00:23:14
only the first steps have been taken in this00:23:18
about him, they are probably not the first, but they are so00:23:20
obvious, so give back to the portal00:23:22
media at the Higher School of Economics,00:23:24
where there was the strongest media department,00:23:28
really very modern,00:23:30
built this mod, our colleagues are in00:23:34
angry pain pumped up, who, for obvious00:23:38
reasons, no longer works there,00:23:40
they gave00:23:42
Ernesto Matskevich a watch, which I think00:23:45
will incur to know him, they still set it,00:23:49
collected signatures,00:23:53
students were told right away it’s useless,00:23:56
so please00:23:58
believe all your ways, yes, of course, if you’ve00:24:02
already invited 1 different victims00:24:06
as a meter and a person who has the00:24:10
unconditional experience of Dmitry Kiselev,00:24:13
probably Salavatov, I know for sure how to progress,00:24:16
so yes, this will be a new00:24:20
discipline and a new in-demand00:24:23
direction,00:24:25
the department, as it’s more interesting to call it, but00:24:29
we’ll think about it, let our wonderful viewers give us suggestions,00:24:32
but there is one more00:24:36
direction, I00:24:37
didn’t answer yes to yours question00:24:41
yes, I can just add something that confuses me, I00:24:46
won’t even talk about specific00:24:48
programs, they are different, different levels00:24:52
of effects, too, here I agree with you00:24:54
that the effectiveness is absolutely 0 because00:24:57
people who don’t believe00:24:59
the propaganda and who then don’t00:25:02
watch them to dissuade somehow is at00:25:05
least absurd, and those who are included in it are00:25:09
those who do not turn off the TV,00:25:12
those who are in this00:25:14
under this hypnosis around the clock are unlikely to have a00:25:18
very period of time to turn on00:25:19
some kind of Borzunov machine or00:25:22
some kind of tarshish and feather thing from00:25:24
whom - in order for them to be told00:25:27
what kind of freaks are manipulating them, it’s unlikely that they00:25:30
will want to do this I don’t really understand00:25:31
the point, I’m even interested in being released, we00:25:34
’ll talk about it, you and the00:25:36
participants in this process00:25:38
will somehow call our program to us there, waving or00:25:41
whatever - to understand what the point is, then00:25:43
guys for whom this is also not confusing, the second one is also the00:25:46
first to agree, or it’s00:25:48
one thing with me when they are exposed in a00:25:51
specific way, maybe yes, now now I00:25:53
understand where my u is. and then I understood00:25:56
well, he says, I will continue for what reason so as00:26:00
not to forget until for history, someone should00:26:03
record how it was, then it’s possible sooner00:26:06
or later, I’m00:26:08
sure it’s possible, most likely it’s too late,00:26:11
but it will still be preserved as00:26:14
evidence and evidence of how it’s00:26:17
done and This propaganda was done,00:26:20
therefore, and for history, the second thing that00:26:23
seems to me is also very important, and we00:26:27
also talked about this topic earlier, who needs00:26:30
something for a reasonable, good, eternal thing,00:26:32
that small percentage who are00:26:36
drawn to knowledge of the truth00:26:40
doubts it very much small,00:26:43
maybe not even a whole percentage, but if00:26:45
you manage to dissuade or somehow00:26:49
win over to your side or make at00:26:52
least 10 people doubt at least a little,00:26:55
it00:26:57
means someone will need it, and for00:27:00
history this is very important when there is another00:27:04
moment that I also think it’s so00:27:06
controversial, I think I already told you about this00:27:09
somehow, that is, there is such a00:27:11
danger of00:27:13
exposing propaganda to turn00:27:16
propaganda into advertising in distribution, I’ll look at00:27:19
some of00:27:21
your issues to Borzunov and now I’ve stuttered and it00:27:24
seems to me that the limit is still you so how00:27:27
much is that00:27:30
plentiful quoting fragments from00:27:34
propaganda shows,00:27:37
large quotes from clay, it seems to me that it is00:27:39
starting to harm the health and health of00:27:42
healthy people who screw it, people00:27:45
who refuse this00:27:46
consciously, they are through the masses, which they00:27:49
respect, love and trust it, they are00:27:52
forced to watch something why they didn’t00:27:55
refuse, so I don’t want so much about00:27:57
this, looking at it, watching it’s not so00:27:59
clear, it’s important for me that you00:28:02
call a lie a lie, come on, I’m00:28:04
appealing to you, as the host of such programs,00:28:06
before they offered me, they showed me this00:28:08
lie in close-up, to do exactly a00:28:11
forgery, where exactly the lie is, but something00:28:13
regarding the rhetoric of interpretation of screams and00:28:16
squeals this really is a satchel on my00:28:19
fragile psyche, I don’t want to watch it,00:28:21
so I repeated it, it seems to me that there is00:28:23
some danger in this, that when individual00:28:25
quotes turn into00:28:27
distribution, I can no longer say00:28:29
that this is not only an exposure, but also the00:28:32
distribution of this crap, which I do00:28:34
n’t want to see, you I don’t agree with myself, no, I00:28:36
don’t agree because firstly,00:28:39
again, to00:28:40
increase my own knowledge, which the00:28:43
truth immediately automatically leads to an00:28:46
increase in sorrows, you need to know what00:28:50
’s going on, many people really do00:28:52
n’t really look and don’t know and can’t even00:28:55
believe that this can be00:28:57
federal on air in the second place, since we have00:29:01
already found out that the00:29:04
audience of these programs is not comparable to the00:29:06
audience of00:29:08
propagandists on federal channels, then00:29:11
this audience cannot perceive00:29:14
this as distribution, much less00:29:16
popularization or advertising, this is just00:29:19
once again a horror of people and will still force them to00:29:24
think in some way direction that00:29:26
this is not normal and00:29:30
just once again I want to say thank you for00:29:34
one more donation ru Olga air thank you very much00:29:37
in general today is a good donation00:29:39
thank you very much dear friends00:29:42
people's lives have become better00:29:46
Olga's proud channel thank you00:29:50
very much a little later we00:29:52
will address your questions, send us but we are looking for a topic Let’s not00:29:54
forget that there are some other00:29:56
observations here that also seem important, and00:29:59
in this sacred00:30:02
woman and in this sacred battle against00:30:05
propagandists, what else is wrong and00:30:09
yesterday I accidentally00:30:11
rewatched, looked through many00:30:14
other channels, I00:30:16
came across anyone who is on the00:30:19
Navalny channel line before00:30:23
stated the program, or rather, the program was00:30:26
announced as an investigation into00:30:30
the transformation of Margarita Simonyan, the00:30:33
notorious one, that’s what she00:30:36
turned into, I began to look, my00:30:38
hair stood on end, but not because I00:30:41
learned something new about Margarita00:30:43
Simonyan, I just didn’t learn anything new from00:30:45
this, but from that that this is00:30:51
no different from this style in00:30:55
which love sable was exposed and the00:30:57
propagandist kumar burns simonyan is00:31:02
no different from what the00:31:06
most rabid propagandists do on the air,00:31:11
this is a substitution with a value judgment of00:31:16
real facts, there is no00:31:18
investigation at all, not a single second,00:31:21
these are00:31:25
interpretations some well-known facts00:31:28
and it is completely unclear why, for00:31:30
example, love sable comes from,00:31:34
is it frank or is it a lie or is it a00:31:38
misunderstanding of ignorance to the specifics,00:31:41
for example, when she says that all00:31:44
rush channels there had a total00:31:48
audience around the world of no more than forty00:31:50
thousand people, that’s not me I know that a00:31:55
small YouTube channel is gaining up to 40,000, we00:31:58
will strive for this here, but to00:32:01
say this is quite strange, these are00:32:03
some absolutely00:32:09
false conclusions from certain00:32:13
average ones that she gives, for00:32:17
example, there is a completely wild00:32:20
story that supposedly00:32:22
Lesin Mikhail, who was once the Minister of00:32:27
Press and Information,00:32:28
when Alexei Gromov came to him in turn00:32:31
with the idea of creating an international00:32:34
arte channel to put Margarita00:32:36
Simonyan there, Sirin very much resisted and00:32:39
then without moving on, very soon Mikhail00:32:43
Lesin was found dead in America and the00:32:47
cause of death is still unclear huge00:32:50
the number of such overexposures, these are00:32:54
not overexposures, but distortions of00:32:56
the program00:32:58
confirms for the type of layout one to00:33:00
the other, well, it is hung extremely roughly00:33:03
clumsily,00:33:05
plus this is the whole thing 5 intonations,00:33:08
love sable is important, this is done with intonation by a00:33:12
tenth grader who reads your00:33:15
cheat sheets,00:33:16
sometimes absolutely wrong Anthony ry00:33:19
from this you you pretend that from this you00:33:23
conclude that it’s just not she00:33:26
reads give them in short I’m not as you know to put it00:33:31
mildly not a fan of Margarita Sima00:33:34
I but it seems to me a huge mistake of this00:33:38
camp of the other opposite accept00:33:42
fatten simplify humiliate your00:33:46
opponent first of all this gift to the00:33:48
enemy I I think that Margarita00:33:51
Simonyan will not remain in debt, secondly,00:33:55
if she were like this, this is how00:33:57
it draws conclusions,00:33:59
greed, unscrupulousness, something else00:34:02
led her to her current state, I00:34:05
won’t even give more examples, they will be00:34:08
violated, they’re just stupid, you see00:34:12
the turn and are you listening you understand00:34:14
that this is stupidity, this is stupidity, this is00:34:18
short-sightedness, and the most important thing is that this is00:34:21
not an investigation at all, and if00:34:25
the thought involuntarily creeps in, if all00:34:27
investigations are done in this way, then the00:34:29
investigation is worthless;00:34:42
for the fact that she dared to00:34:47
climb into a sphere that had00:34:50
never before00:34:52
been considered indecent when she00:34:56
said in plain text about Galkin and Pugachev00:34:58
they taught decent form in00:35:01
any way, she repeats exactly the same thing,00:35:03
says mine, of course we don’t interfere with anyone’s bed,00:35:06
but then she gives some lay out of00:35:10
her ideas about how00:35:13
Margarita Simonyan’s career growth was built,00:35:16
again I’m saying I’m not defending Margarita00:35:18
Simonyan and I’ll read that this is the most00:35:22
harmful and most unacceptable way00:35:25
of fighting the propaganda of the other side, don’t00:35:28
you know if you yourself absolutely agree,00:35:31
this is generally a very serious topic and this is not00:35:34
only love sable you are involved in this I00:35:39
will say I am so busy noticed00:35:43
this is unfortunately in my opinion I agree with you a00:35:46
huge mistake00:35:48
representatives of the liberal community00:35:51
once again and I will also add representatives of the00:35:55
Ukrainian side since I am a00:35:58
regular viewer of Ukrainian00:36:01
TV channels but above all00:36:03
Russian-speaking hood the freedom project and how to the00:36:06
project On February 3, I have been noticing for a long time that00:36:10
they have such small stories as00:36:12
columns with voice-over text where00:36:16
they also talk about propaganda00:36:19
about the carriers and performers of this00:36:22
propaganda, and everything is exclusively in00:36:24
this vein in which you speak while00:36:26
typing more on00:36:28
some offensive things about00:36:31
appearance and other things that are simply00:36:34
unacceptable, not enough of this they are trying to00:36:38
intercept00:36:39
what is called the00:36:42
rhetoric of propagandists, which is actually00:36:45
what we are all running from and from which we are all00:36:47
horrified by this scream of squeal from the00:36:50
stream of insults of00:36:52
demonstrative accusations of our00:36:56
opponents or our enemies today00:36:59
this style that I once remember00:37:01
began to go through the anatomy of protest, you00:37:03
remember all these for the footage with creepy00:37:05
voice-overs, well, of course, this one,00:37:07
I can’t even reproduce this intonation,00:37:09
but you all eat it, it sounds00:37:13
today this this intonation is very00:37:16
popular here on Ukrainian00:37:20
TV channels and among our colleagues who00:37:22
are trying to counter propaganda or00:37:25
resist this enemy of theirs,00:37:27
this is of course completely wrong,00:37:29
first of all, it is unconvincing not only from a00:37:32
factual point of view, but it is also unconvincing in00:37:35
its style because and immediately00:37:38
drink what we have, what causes00:37:41
rejection no matter who works in this00:37:44
style it will cause00:37:46
rejection anyway even if he says the right things00:37:49
that we are Amin we are for world peace00:37:52
it only causes irritation00:37:54
and rage you want to switch so you don’t00:37:57
believe it then I think it’s a big00:37:59
mistake someone the first to come up with this is who00:38:02
I don’t know, and I know someone, there is some author00:38:05
who said we need to beat the enemy with his own00:38:07
weapon, said the author here and say00:38:10
let us now fight with propaganda using00:38:12
their own methods,00:38:13
insults, personalization,00:38:16
appearance, last name, nationality,00:38:19
personal life on dark affairs on how on00:38:22
no unconfirmed data but just like00:38:25
they are [ __ ] nothing will work out00:38:28
you will lose and are already losing and I too I00:38:31
absolutely agree with you I also,00:38:33
moreover, of course will lose because00:38:35
today all the federal propagandists00:38:39
are tracking my feeling strain00:38:42
there is a whole regiment of people who read all the00:38:45
telegram channel and the enemy of the so-00:38:47
called00:38:49
or they are ideological, everything is in and00:38:53
sonorous and forbidden, but nevertheless the00:38:56
posts that appear00:38:59
are viewed on YouTube channels and then00:39:02
this is a whole topic and they quote00:39:05
and of course it is a balm for their soul00:39:08
when there are these 43 arte audiences around the00:39:12
world, or there she hosted programs or there she is00:39:17
looking at her husband doing programs that are00:39:20
boring, everyone is interesting to me, no one is00:39:22
watching, prove to me what kind of00:39:25
strange it is, they are not interesting to you, someone is00:39:29
not interested in her, some are absolutely00:39:34
ratings taken from the ceiling that are not or do not correspond to00:39:37
reality, and if they00:39:39
correspond to reality,00:39:41
please show me the dynamics of how they are not00:39:44
watching if you want to tell us about00:39:46
show well, and a lot of just really00:39:49
offensive this is probably her heroine00:39:53
deserved something there, but most of00:39:56
what she says is a disc of00:39:59
just pure accusations of00:40:02
insults and I say this is a big00:40:06
gift presented with a huge overlaid00:40:09
if you take into account if not that Sobol and00:40:13
Margarita Simonyan have some kind of personal00:40:16
history of conflicts that they have mutual00:40:19
hostility and experience such hostility before Yakutsk00:40:22
I can, as the famous Frunzik said at the time,00:40:26
in which00:40:28
I am on the character Jack Chan and00:40:32
therefore this also needs to be taken into account,00:40:36
including yes, this is settling personal scores or is00:40:39
this what or is this what you call00:40:42
an investigation, I can do well with them, she00:40:44
can still give an example of the present00:40:47
investigations about the same family00:40:51
constantly and00:40:53
Simonyan if you remember there was a brilliant00:40:56
investigation of Alexei Navalny the00:40:57
Crimean bridge to which it is wonderful without00:41:01
any unnecessary shouting to insult the00:41:03
offensive sheep with feelings with00:41:06
his inherent feeling thinking00:41:08
murderous perfect calm and00:41:11
charm of mind as you say perfectly00:41:14
this investigation was presented to us00:41:16
presented in public it was all said00:41:18
about this si will be a family contract and00:41:21
much more much more important does not seem to be00:41:24
something that anyone special does, yes00:41:26
she will forgive us please speak00:41:28
small fragments of this was00:41:30
quoted but only with the display of the00:41:34
tetra Crimean bridge and00:41:36
very short again without any00:41:39
evidence,00:41:40
with a story about a00:41:42
family contract, well, Alexei00:41:46
did it brilliantly, so he, by the way,00:41:49
by the way, of all of them, he began to list you more often;00:42:02
this is an absolutely00:42:04
incredible sense of humor with such00:42:07
artistry with ease of presentation that is00:42:09
truly oboyant, which is precisely why the00:42:12
prices were and why his00:42:14
investigations of Alexey always infuriated all the defendants from the00:42:17
Simonians & tea flock of Medvedev and all the00:42:20
other nightingales, and it’s precisely with this00:42:24
that the absolute is some00:42:26
you can’t find fault with it’s true, you’re all there, we all00:42:28
check everything, check everything is recorded,00:42:30
documented, here are the documents, everything00:42:33
is recorded, and at the same time, of course, it’s00:42:35
a pleasure to listen to sulfur as he does this in00:42:37
what form it should be doomed,00:42:39
he’s really lacking, there’s really not enough of00:42:41
those, this is really a gift00:42:44
that is given, unfortunately, to such a darude00:42:46
while I I don’t observe it in children and00:42:49
I have to say good words 200000:42:53
people are watching us now it’s very00:42:57
good and already two 300 even at 1745 at00:43:01
1945 thank you 2 300 please00:43:04
confirm that there are two 300 of you with your00:43:07
likes please all now all two00:43:09
thousand three hundred people would take it and click00:43:12
on this thumb please, and00:43:15
of course00:43:16
the chat works if you can give them00:43:20
a few questions about the quality of such00:43:22
a pad, we’ll ask each other00:43:23
then we’ll move on00:43:26
like this sorcerer and vodka about the department of00:43:30
propaganda Olga writes sorcerers there was a00:43:34
cafe with her father’s guidance to her00:43:37
who won in my face of drug00:43:41
sorcerer of the road yes yes00:43:44
overtaking rank they will begin to train masters in00:43:47
information and hybrid warriors this is00:43:50
today's news here they will train00:43:52
information support00:43:54
for special operations countering color00:43:56
revolutions Eugene tells us by00:43:59
the way this is very similar to what we are00:44:03
talking about Oscar Vasilich asks00:44:06
brought about no no no he didn’t have a chance00:44:08
to ask, he writes, he had a chance to attend a00:44:10
master class for the press secretary and the00:44:12
departments of education, where madam from00:44:15
Russia Today taught how to properly avoid00:44:19
awkward questions, just what kind of00:44:21
seminar are you going to and webinars on it,00:44:25
everything has already been invented,00:44:26
the department really offers Mikhail00:44:29
Stepanov and .A. well, naturally,00:44:32
several geographical places from00:44:35
which Tallinn looks at us greetings from00:44:38
Tallinn thank you very much Shuvalova Valley00:44:41
penza saratov with us greetings from Belgium00:44:44
from Cassandra good afternoon from New Jersey00:44:47
from Tamil Bennett near Moscow greetings from the00:44:50
hot Moscow and hello este opinions00:44:53
many thanks to our dear listeners00:44:56
and to the audience and of course,00:44:58
send questions, then you will be offended, they don’t00:45:00
answer so far only good words for00:45:03
this and that, thank you, well, of course,00:45:04
subscribe likes the same thing, we really ask you for00:45:09
the name of whom this department should be, don’t00:45:12
say or 1 5 boys00:45:16
to the departments like that just need to come up with00:45:20
words or or memory 1 5 from the boy00:45:24
before going further densely with00:45:26
the event and they us I would still like to00:45:29
stop at the event ira00:45:32
for me and for you too I think that this is the00:45:35
most important event the so-called00:45:38
theater pogrom that happened one in the00:45:41
afternoon in Moscow when, in fact, 3 well, let's say00:45:45
up to the district, three leading theaters00:45:46
in Moscow were beheaded and in fact they were00:45:50
given a place to be taken00:45:54
and what will happen next,00:45:56
people write that it is not clear what will happen00:45:58
next, but it is clear what will happen00:46:00
next, nothing is paid Gogol00:46:03
whose center00:46:04
was beheaded remove the leadership Alexey00:46:08
Agranovich who suddenly he is after Kirill00:46:11
and Alexey Koreshey director of the00:46:14
school of modern play and axes Rahi00:46:17
Gauss and00:46:18
contemporary Viktor Ryzhakov00:46:22
I think it’s probably worth it since a00:46:24
glass of a program about TV and about00:46:26
these it’s worth understanding how00:46:30
this topic was discussed on TV in general I really don’t know,00:46:33
but probably also there you silently turn on, you do00:46:35
n’t have the strength to look at the colors,00:46:37
but in general somewhere at least a drop of00:46:40
attention was paid to this event or nothing,00:46:42
I’ll answer honestly, I didn’t see it, but I more and00:46:47
more correspond to the name of our00:46:50
program until people without you for00:46:53
because it’s unbearable, you still have to00:46:57
take care of yourself, but because it’s impossible to00:46:59
even imagine that even a fraction of00:47:03
sympathy would be expressed or00:47:06
sympathy and just regret about this,00:47:09
but they listen as if they’re branding you once again,00:47:13
vilify and all that, somehow00:47:16
there’s no strength, but actually they00:47:20
they used to do this about Serebryannikov, everyone was00:47:23
trampling, they said they shot back, the00:47:27
same besogon, in my opinion, made a significant contribution to00:47:30
this00:47:31
Tatyana Vasilyeva, recently00:47:35
we are also packing there Kirill Serebryannikov photo and00:47:37
about the zahir of gas between 1 Helga,00:47:39
avid carnations are in this box for00:47:45
me not again I repeat, I didn’t see it00:47:49
because all this time when I found out,00:47:51
of course it was a shock absolutely, it00:47:54
was necessary in some sense, I remembered how we00:47:56
were at the opening of the Gogol Center, it00:48:00
seemed like just recently,00:48:02
nine years have passed twelve, it became clear00:48:06
913 will help00:48:09
10 years, but check, that’s00:48:13
not the point of the rains, in the end, 1000:48:16
before there was a feeling that before our eyes a00:48:20
completely separate platform was born and is being formed, a00:48:23
separate00:48:26
space is being formed where00:48:30
it welcomes the young and talented in00:48:34
any sense, I remember when our00:48:38
friend’s son entered this famous course00:48:40
from whom the 7th studio was born, yes, yes, to00:48:43
name a person, he is now not just the son00:48:46
of your friend, he is actually quite an00:48:48
accomplished artist, wonderful Yuri00:48:50
vest, the younger Angela, a student of Kirill and00:48:54
one of the leading actors, by the way, everyone,00:48:57
including 7 grandfather himself and the Gogol Center, but I’m00:49:00
on and more when we met Kirill00:49:03
leaving the art theater, then I00:49:06
asked how my godson was doing, I mean00:49:10
faith, and he then said a phrase that was not00:49:13
only related to the law, he said, I recruited this course00:49:16
from talented guys00:49:20
whom I know will not be accepted into other00:49:23
creative universities simply because they00:49:26
either Tarot are very versatile, talented,00:49:29
or have not yet decided, but they are already there, for00:49:32
example, your own such a multi00:49:35
musician picked up any instrument in his hands and00:49:38
began to play, it was not for nothing that he then00:49:40
made him a music director 700:49:42
it’s difficult and he started working with these guys00:49:46
and we saw this result, but00:49:49
besides of this, there was also formed00:49:51
separately and here is a00:49:54
community of people who are00:49:57
close to this aesthetics, who are interested in this, who are00:50:00
young, mostly, although differently,00:50:03
who maybe before this, in general, the theater00:50:06
was presented there only as a performance and00:50:09
who were forced to induce it, it00:50:12
wasn’t just with a ticket, he entered and went00:50:15
to his place the place where a00:50:17
cultural space was organized and00:50:20
imagine that now all this is00:50:24
literally falling apart with an ax and the00:50:27
question always arises, I don’t know why and00:50:30
who needs it, I know and why and who00:50:33
needs it, but by00:50:34
and large, in a general and00:50:38
philosophical sense I don’t understand what kind00:50:41
of policy this is, this00:50:44
absolute squeezing out, demonstrative, of the00:50:48
most talented,00:50:50
most interesting, most in demand00:50:54
because, among other things, the00:50:56
Gogol Center has been very profitable all these years00:50:59
and a commercial enterprise, too,00:51:02
go try to get underwear there, the00:51:05
same applies and partly too, some of it is00:51:08
a little bit -other,00:51:10
but everyone’s heads were cut off in approximately the00:51:12
same way, these are not the last goals and it seems00:51:16
not the last Joseph Reichelgauz is shocking00:51:19
separately because first of all he00:51:21
tried very hard all these years, he often went on00:51:24
talk shows and tried very hard to be careful00:51:28
that this is a systemic liberal to systemic00:51:32
liberals yes00:51:34
but at the same time, he actually created the theater,00:51:38
and not only that he will be appointed there, but00:51:42
Viktor Ryzhakov, I remember one of my00:51:45
strongest theatrical shocks on the00:51:49
small or new stage, as it was called00:51:52
in the art theater in the00:51:53
small, small, really00:51:55
bunnies00:51:56
with you, maybe the relay term this is lunch00:52:00
and damned and killed when they played, they00:52:04
saw us almost on the knees of 300:52:06
she is news on the new stage on the new00:52:09
stage, and also young guys, mostly00:52:12
up to help, school graduates of the studio, for the00:52:15
first time in my life I saw how to give, they00:52:19
literally made me happy at the end there00:52:22
was such a strong shock from this00:52:26
performance,00:52:27
all the young men, the women, of course, and the00:52:31
older men, everything is absolutely one thing, I’m00:52:35
just saying it’s like a00:52:37
chill on my skin in our 32 degree heat,00:52:40
well, in general, the contemporary theater is00:52:44
still with us also a lot00:52:47
is connected, I always in this case think00:52:50
it’s good that this or that figure00:52:54
should not be an example of a harem I know, but I don’t know, we don’t00:52:58
need to, Harry said, except I00:53:01
want to say about something else that I don’t think00:53:03
that Galina Borisovna would approve would approve of00:53:06
what he did Viktor Ryzhakov, it seems to me00:53:10
that here, after all,00:53:12
the watershed was already taking place not in vain when the00:53:15
wind of reshuffles came from the time when00:53:16
he was invited by the same department of00:53:19
culture that you assigned us such a00:53:21
peculiar split in labor and it happened00:53:23
and everyone was very happy about it, but here too of00:53:27
course that everything unites all00:53:30
these people, this is certainly the00:53:35
representatives of absolute freedom00:53:37
in art, these are people who declare00:53:40
modern free creativity, this is the00:53:43
most important thing, and from the Gogol Center I can00:53:45
only add from what you said00:53:47
that the artistic part of it is the so-00:53:49
called absolutely truly00:53:51
modern multi-genre taking into account00:53:54
only there was no opera and I think00:53:57
plastic drama and00:53:59
musicals and00:54:02
dramatic performances, what’s00:54:04
not there, there were natural things in addition to00:54:07
stage things, there were00:54:10
round table discussions and presentations of books and00:54:12
watching films, there were three00:54:14
amazing ideas, a lecture before the00:54:15
performance when the playwright or someone from00:54:19
the center or or a00:54:21
cultural specialist or a teacher or a00:54:24
historian was introduced into the context like this,00:54:27
telling languidly to the office and about the time in00:54:30
which it was written, etc.,00:54:32
so that people from a blank slate would come to the00:54:34
hall watching the performance so that they would not00:54:37
understand at all where it was born, where00:54:39
this text came from where does the story come from, and00:54:42
plus to this I’ll add that00:54:43
the entrance to00:54:45
the theater was open there at any time, any time, strain00:54:49
tickets are asked only at the entrance to the hall,00:54:51
even if you don’t have a ticket, this can come at any00:54:54
time, even the time of the performances, you could00:54:56
come there with a cross, the time of a wonderful00:54:59
book cafe is In general, I also understand that00:55:02
this ideology is still alien to the absolutely00:55:06
modern Russian official00:55:08
ideology, so much so that it is00:55:10
already becoming mortally dangerous for them, in principle,00:55:13
they didn’t hold any00:55:15
rallies or protests there either,00:55:19
didn’t come out with cold as ice posters, and in general no one did00:55:20
anything some campaigned except for00:55:23
freedom of thought for freedom of creativity, this00:55:25
unites everyone, including Viktor00:55:27
Ryzhakova, let’s also remember the story00:55:30
that he was there for a short time, how long was00:55:32
there this year, 2nd in my opinion, the artistic director,00:55:35
if not less than00:55:37
the performance, the first bread of the power of the archijaka00:55:40
vy of the leading role which this performance is00:55:43
not a performance in Ryzhakov's electro, but00:55:45
under his leadership it was appointed by00:55:47
experts who almost communicated to the00:55:50
prosecutor's office filed for this performance00:55:52
for insulting something there feelings00:55:54
patriot patriot they were there when they00:55:56
poured his hedge where the rock in the prosecutor's office00:55:59
and then As for Joseph, he also00:56:02
absolutely works constantly with a00:56:04
current agenda with modern00:56:07
texts. You can’t call a00:56:09
school of modern plays modern.00:56:11
Until recently, there00:56:13
were also club evenings there that were very00:56:16
popular, something that the Gogol Center has in common,00:56:18
too, you remember, we also attended many of00:56:20
these evenings of modern poetry it’s just an00:56:23
evening just with00:56:25
performances of people for what is called00:56:28
some kind of common feeling of00:56:31
sharing00:56:33
some kind of go to the soul attitude towards java00:56:36
okudzhava and evenings these wonderful00:56:39
concerts on May 9th were organized by Rachel Gauss on00:56:44
the street nearby on the boulevard and then in the hall and00:56:48
on the balcony so that everything is clear here,00:56:51
unfortunately, I will also add that Joseph was very00:56:55
close friends with Anatoly Boriska Chubais00:56:58
and he was also a patron of the theater and often00:57:01
attended all the performances and mountains there were00:57:07
these reformers of old, better than this one, I00:57:11
think, too, raw played by a stranger to a stranger all00:57:14
strangers this time for the second time Absolutely, in00:57:17
principle, uncontrolled space,00:57:20
uncontrolled,00:57:22
uncontrolled in the usual00:57:25
sense for officials, artists who00:57:30
still tried to the last00:57:33
to preserve this space, but so that we00:57:35
still move on from purely theatrical00:57:38
stories, and00:57:39
I was not at the last performance with a very00:57:44
more than symbolic name, I am not00:57:47
participating war according to Yuri Levitansky, but I00:57:51
watched Vasily Polonsky’s report on00:57:54
channel one and she was blinking all this way and00:57:58
blinking and this atmosphere, it was00:58:01
emotional and physically there,00:58:05
was conveyed by this00:58:07
boundless despair and grief that came from those00:58:11
who came and there people were in two halls00:58:14
given that everyone was allowed in with00:58:17
which these people were saying goodbye to something that00:58:20
was truly dear to them and a00:58:25
heartbreaking scene when the actor00:58:28
stands at the end they applaud the audience the audience00:58:31
applauds the actor and everyone including the male00:58:35
actors I can barely hold back my tears and00:58:38
some can’t hold back00:58:40
necessarily there Kirill Kirill and00:58:43
the inclusion yes give for venyo, and he00:58:46
spoke about Tony absolutely live, there00:58:49
was no recording, it was also visible00:58:51
how the audience reacted and how the actors all00:58:54
added feelings, of course,00:58:56
this is a real novel, a huge00:59:00
drama, it’s also important to add maybe00:59:04
ira so that people don’t think that I’m00:59:06
reading too this is especially from00:59:10
my Ukrainian friends that how can you00:59:15
when such a terrible war is happening, a00:59:19
terrible catastrophe, how many deaths00:59:21
really are so much horror, here it means00:59:24
mourning for some kind of theater, but it00:59:27
seems to me that these are such connected things,00:59:29
I understand the Ukrainians here, it’s00:59:31
not even worth talking about and00:59:34
it’s all pointless, it’s all clear, yes, maybe I00:59:36
myself would have screamed like this00:59:38
as if it were food, but for us00:59:42
I’m convinced that these are all00:59:44
connected things I 1 1 1 without the other it doesn’t00:59:49
happen it’s not with the theater we’ll say goodbye to the00:59:52
theater thank God nothing will happen in the00:59:54
end, the actors are really00:59:56
alive and healthy, and Kirill, may God grant him00:59:58
a long life and all the creative destinies, he01:00:00
has no shortages of invitations, I’m sure that01:00:02
he and his artists will save many of his own from01:00:06
unemployment, I’m01:00:07
just convinced of this, but this is01:00:09
really where we were talking about with the01:00:13
iron curtain that falls over01:00:15
history, including here we01:00:18
see it, it happens on all lines,01:00:21
political and scientific and technological01:00:24
and educational, and of course you are01:00:27
dialogical and cultural, and this is a01:00:30
terribly scary fact, I can’t imagine01:00:34
what people will do next who01:00:36
are fired and want to quit, we01:00:38
understand this perfectly well, I think that01:00:40
many will leave on their own, many do01:00:44
it on their own, preempting the shameful01:00:48
horror, a link for you somewhere in this01:00:50
com, an official writes and renews the contract,01:00:53
resigns, but this is part of the story on a01:00:59
global scale, globally here these are01:01:02
theatrical departures, then a theatrical01:01:04
pogrom, this will be next, this is their farewell01:01:07
to the theater, specifically this is farewell to a01:01:10
huge part of history with an era, as if01:01:15
we are burning as this someone dies,01:01:17
an era is leaving, and here it is literally01:01:19
leaving from under our feet, it is leaving and you01:01:23
remain in such an airless01:01:25
space, no apple, no joint, so electra Ryzhakova,01:01:28
so I remembered and about the slabs killed and01:01:30
they promised a play at the Fomenko Theater, he01:01:32
staged it for five evenings, he staged it, he came up with the01:01:36
noise, an amazing spherical move, there is a01:01:39
communal apartment in which the01:01:40
action takes place for 5 evenings, it is in01:01:43
such a cube which airless black01:01:46
space like this is like some kind01:01:48
of01:01:50
unidentified flying object which is01:01:52
unclear where it is and where it is allied where01:01:56
it will land it is already torn off from the ground01:01:58
but where it will land incomprehensible those01:02:00
people who seem to be if they are not01:02:03
airless in this black hole space01:02:05
without people no one needs people01:02:09
incomprehensible people at the mouse01:02:12
although this one also remembered this image and this is01:02:15
of course the scariest the creepiest01:02:21
no, why, for example, I had time and really01:02:25
won’t finish01:02:27
watching the interview with Dmitry Krylov,01:02:29
which was not broadcast alone on the youtube channel radio01:02:33
share on Anton Dolin for an interview with him01:02:36
not when he was in Riga and01:02:38
I remember the interview that he gave to the01:02:41
voice of America at the very beginning,01:02:45
literally the first days after the start of the01:02:48
so-called special operation when he01:02:51
ended up in America there, that he01:02:53
had a job there and I remember what he was like01:02:57
extreme despair at that moment and01:03:00
here he says some important things about01:03:05
how only work no matter01:03:08
what they don’t remember for nothing01:03:12
that hello yes yes only work and he will01:03:17
work as hard as possible but at the same time01:03:20
this feeling of wildness still remains01:03:23
internal drama when a person is01:03:26
forced to01:03:28
give up for a year to seem to be outside of01:03:33
what he will get used to01:03:35
his own and who didn’t01:03:38
stage which here maybe what01:03:41
will come out without him and this terrible01:03:44
drama when for some reason an artist and a01:03:47
world-famous artist01:03:50
is forced to do this to make a01:03:53
horrifying choice, horrifyingly in the wrong sense, to01:03:56
leave or to stay, it is01:03:58
necessary to stick someone to something, to01:04:01
stick someone to something that is not in his01:04:05
heart, he01:04:06
can’t do it, just like all the01:04:09
other01:04:10
artists we’re talking about you01:04:12
’re talking about Yes, I think that now I will01:04:16
put them before this nightmare choice with01:04:19
whom are you a master of culture and it01:04:22
is clear with whom you need to be a master of01:04:24
culture in order to survive and preserve01:04:26
yourself and again you have connections with this01:04:30
last for some reason layered and the01:04:33
impressions of Evgeniy Gyganov who gave01:04:36
The interview was before the war, before the start of01:04:39
all this and01:04:42
after,01:04:45
we can say that Evgeniy01:04:48
Gyganov is trying to be as01:04:50
careful as possible, choosing his words for a long time, but at01:04:54
some point, and there the operator works01:04:56
very well, during this interview01:04:58
we see absolutely01:05:01
knocked out you were looking for me so I realized when I was with01:05:05
you with the eagles of the evening she lays and01:05:07
is01:05:09
absolutely crushed in the sense that01:05:12
internally, morally, a person who is01:05:17
trying to preserve himself anyway and01:05:20
will survive, but at the same time you can see some kind of01:05:25
reproach for him, get ready to01:05:28
write down that the feeling of a person in a burning01:05:31
house the fact that he knows the currencies01:05:34
to press 7 children01:05:37
3 about the fact01:05:39
that he must make a decision for himself,01:05:44
as I understand that this will be01:05:46
carried with the city, by the way, here is another01:05:49
broadcast that I would also like you01:05:50
not to miss, he was a dealer last01:05:52
week on Saturday, but on the01:05:55
last last day before yesterday I01:05:57
also talk about this about this from time to time01:06:00
people talk about how to build their01:06:02
lives further, what to do, how in these01:06:05
circumstances, not human unthinkable01:06:08
circumstances, somehow01:06:10
plan something, how to be with whom, how to01:06:14
preserve yourself, how will not turn into a miracle yet01:06:17
how not to turn into a person who01:06:20
pushes this topic away from himself and you01:06:24
replace lychee, everyone has their own recipe,01:06:27
a lot of what we often discuss and an interview01:06:30
with Evgeniy Gypsy a new interview with01:06:32
Dmitry Krymov and here are the goals of Alexey little01:06:35
Brodsky I can add from everyone your own01:06:38
recipe for survival in these aksai about your01:06:40
thoroughness, this is the most important thing,01:06:43
none of us have this experience01:06:46
at all, well, somehow we didn’t give ourselves a piss in this, no matter where01:06:49
we were01:06:51
in Russia, not in Russia, no matter what conquest we did01:06:56
not belong to Putin’s before Putin's01:06:59
yes yes yes about Putin's, not a01:07:04
single person from the scenes of us has this experience,01:07:07
so everyone, no matter how you look at it, will still01:07:09
somehow try to get used to each01:07:11
other, so talk talk to each01:07:13
other, bring back human azat goti01:07:16
preserve the human appearance about what01:07:19
they say just all these heroes of ours01:07:21
about whom we remember nothing to preserve the01:07:23
human appearance, including getting married, the01:07:24
channel said this and multiply hatred do not01:07:27
breed aggression in yourself and01:07:30
stop me from broadcasting it and01:07:33
everyone has their own way, it’s good when you01:07:35
have the gift of01:07:37
creative writing and drawing also why01:07:40
did I tell Dima Crimea to play on stage01:07:43
write music sing songs well I at01:07:47
least they tell those who have a gift01:07:51
that it became impossible at some point in the01:07:55
sector of the moment or rather, well, just like01:07:58
poetry after Auschwitz, by the way,01:08:01
not too gypsies very precisely about this01:08:03
from this, in the end, the elements in01:08:05
Auschwitz I write if you have the gift of01:08:08
writing poetry, you can find the words here and01:08:11
there by the way, don’t leak the moment01:08:13
which the seed didn’t really understand in this01:08:15
interview when he says that he’s about to01:08:18
see you what I think about this how I01:08:22
feel how I build my life what should I01:08:24
do how do I answer this question01:08:26
you come to the theater and watch01:08:30
what I do on stage what I’m talking about01:08:32
she wouldn’t really understand she took01:08:35
it as what you a successful artist, I understand01:08:37
you are wonderful artists, you01:08:39
need to do business from here, well, as if01:08:41
she caught this theme in his answer, but it01:08:43
seems to me that he wasn’t talking about that and then01:08:45
tried to find out what the point is, you also have01:08:48
such creativity here and now01:08:50
like what theater is, so that I don’t01:08:53
play, I’ll try to translate his thoughts into01:08:56
from the word yes, so that I don’t play, I will01:08:59
play about today, not about now, everything01:09:01
I think about it, whoever I am on stage,01:09:04
Pushkin’s hero, Chekhov’s hero,01:09:08
Ostrovsky’s heroes, I I’m talking about now about01:09:10
today and if you’re a01:09:12
thinking person, if you can01:09:16
feel it, you can’t help but01:09:18
feel it, and it seems to me that this01:09:20
has probably the main meaning, in fact, we’re talking about this01:09:23
and we’re eating and Krymov say that I’m still01:09:25
doing this network about now01:09:28
whatever one may say, in01:09:29
general, moreover, by the way,01:09:32
after01:09:33
the conversation, the gypsies, with reference to the01:09:36
conversation he had with the Crimea, said that01:09:39
right now he understood some things01:09:41
differently, or maybe he just01:09:44
understood them in general, and therefore he finally understood01:09:47
in what cases what exactly needs to be played and01:09:51
what he plays, but still this is the01:09:53
state and this is01:09:56
exactly the internal torment that01:09:59
reflects terribly01:10:03
excellent, completely inappropriate, you know what it01:10:05
seemed that he didn’t01:10:07
edit the aesthetes two parts of the interview01:10:10
that it’s very difficult my path, we understood01:10:13
that this interview was treated by Ksenia to write before01:10:16
the war then, along with some kind of break, they01:10:18
spoke, they wrote in01:10:20
January the first part of the interview, then01:10:23
they postponed it for a cheat, then it01:10:24
all started, and now, literally today,01:10:26
these days, and from 2 this, they once again01:10:30
emphasize the state of the01:10:32
hero two now different people01:10:35
absolutely, it would seem like January, six months have passed,01:10:40
it all started in a different person01:10:44
and here you are and why didn’t it seem like it was01:10:46
n’t edited because those conversations in01:10:49
peacetime01:10:50
about some kind of yellow press about some01:10:53
people personally yes yes yes this community by all01:10:57
maeda is so not relevant and in01:10:59
no way characterizes a01:11:01
person, not a society, not a country, not like I01:11:05
was before, I didn’t feel sorry for it, throws everything in the trash, it will end up on01:11:06
mumin, he says it’s01:11:08
really a pity, but it doesn’t01:11:11
mount in any way, and for the second part, this is just a01:11:13
special thank you to Ksenia for the fact that she01:11:16
brought this sensitivity and did not, as it01:11:20
were, torment him, as they say, but how many01:11:23
people torture themselves is terrible with01:11:25
absolutely the right, it is impossible to hide it,01:11:27
it’s like a chicken with its head torn off, we often01:11:29
use this image and01:11:32
our courts will probably have to do it01:11:35
anyway, although I would like to touch a little on01:11:39
another kind of interview and something01:11:41
truly01:11:43
creative and truly01:11:45
conscientious people are01:11:48
deep, they are looking for reasons in Siberia and01:11:54
trying to comprehend their place in this01:11:59
new reality and this is01:12:02
not where their know-how is, but first of all, in general,01:12:06
this is a01:12:08
conversation about internal choice01:12:10
internal work and01:12:13
if you noticed, none of them01:12:17
throw me at other people who01:12:20
hold different views, but they01:12:23
stayed there, they left, on the contrary, all the01:12:28
reasons and all the problems they accumulate in themselves, but01:12:32
there are some people01:12:36
who, for some strange reason, are01:12:38
completely different views that consider it01:12:42
their duty to definitely throw a stone at01:12:45
those people who do not agree with him and01:12:48
let’s say I’m a pig01:12:51
every Hong Kong tells his own the01:12:54
truth but doesn’t talk about na01:12:56
grunts shouts out this truth like01:13:00
dogs under a bush01:13:02
called someone else there who01:13:04
were just there metaphors chewed made01:13:08
planted01:13:10
they lived here01:13:13
heartily ate were at the feeding trough it happened to you01:13:18
this we quote what01:13:22
amazed me although it seems I01:13:25
can’t ask for anything this is the last thing01:13:28
I saw and also not yet completely our01:13:31
eternal little red riding hood01:13:35
like me on the Poplavskaya tree stands on01:13:38
strong legs of the01:13:40
owners, you are the master of the Russian land, this is what he01:13:43
looks like,01:13:45
yes, I wrote it down, but then I gave up, yes, she01:13:49
also gave an interview to one of01:13:51
our favorite characters,01:13:54
Vyacheslav Vyacheslav Manucharov,01:13:57
and I definitely didn’t ask him about this01:14:00
topic at night, I’ll01:14:04
find out for Yana for many years01:14:06
In Kiev, by the way, we met at the01:14:10
festival of the international community, she01:14:14
seemed to me to be a bright, kind,01:14:17
completely01:14:19
adequate person, I don’t know what01:14:21
happens to people for her to start again01:14:24
intonation in such a manner in such01:14:28
expressions and01:14:30
with such a winning01:14:32
feeling of superiority01:14:35
to talk about her own colleagues, she01:14:38
mentions there and so this Alexander Gudkov,01:14:41
who acted a lot, also a bricklayer,01:14:45
Bulgarians bolts, how she imitated a01:14:47
Baltic accent, everything because people don’t01:14:50
notice that they turn into animals,01:14:52
I don’t understand, it’s just that an animal is an01:14:55
amateur who, without them in their heads,01:14:58
crocodiles and hippos don’t even know01:15:01
you understand that in her head this is a01:15:03
crocodile man a hippopotamus man I and days01:15:06
appearance I mean they mean me correctly01:15:08
I mean this terrible cave01:15:11
imperial consciousness01:15:12
they are no longer ashamed of anything and absolutely01:15:14
depraved shamelessness unites them all that’s01:15:17
what I’ll tell you Ira and01:15:19
this float and Krasovsky, this again,01:15:23
God forgive Margarita Simonyan and her husband01:15:25
and privately, all of them are united by01:15:29
this completely depraved, well-fed01:15:31
shamelessness, lounging like those01:15:34
sitting in these chairs, we are the masters of the world to01:15:37
everyone, we are the masters of the country with all their appearance,01:15:40
they make it clear to everyone who is the power here,01:15:43
who is the boss here well-fed people, shiny01:15:46
from satiety, otherwise it’s from impunity01:15:50
from and they’re dying, teaching something else, everything is already there, I’m01:15:55
already on my way 6 this is falling out in thousands, but in my01:15:59
interpretation on Poplavskaya, it’s the other way around for01:16:03
those who either left today or but01:16:07
mostly those who left and or those who condemned the01:16:11
current state of affairs, in her opinion, is01:16:14
exactly the opposite, that at01:16:17
one time they latched onto the feeders, ate well,01:16:21
slept sweetly, and now when they01:16:24
felt that the feeders01:16:25
were closing and the truth was not on their side,01:16:28
they all came running to look for the feeders and,01:16:31
accordingly, for this they need to01:16:34
water their homeland and as she said01:16:36
sorry brother about sorry-sorry when she01:16:39
talked about the fact that they don’t want to wash the toilet01:16:42
in America and the streets don’t want revenge on the toilets, for01:16:46
some reason they all01:16:48
have these pop-up windows as we follow,01:16:51
pop-up windows from some01:16:53
Soviet cave propaganda consciousness01:16:56
when we were also told that everyone01:16:58
who went to America means everything there01:17:01
washes toilets, all Soviet migrants, all01:17:04
former artists and painters and writers01:17:06
or were in these games, washes toilets, washes01:17:10
stairwells,01:17:12
and they work resumes on the panel, you know, they01:17:15
have them - as before, now all this is01:17:18
producing again, because why is everyone01:17:21
so tenacious, where does it come from in a01:17:23
woman who is not old yet young enough,01:17:26
from where this01:17:29
horror from the century before last penetrates into her,01:17:32
let’s just say, when she says this, I01:17:35
think that one, say this in the eyes of the01:17:37
best creative people in general and not only people in01:17:42
particular, of course at that moment you see the01:17:45
face and eyes of Dima Crimea water or there01:17:48
Kirill Serebrennikova and a lot of other01:17:50
people who left simply from the01:17:53
inability to breathe,01:17:55
some from the impossibility work like01:17:58
Kirin Sererenik and some simply01:18:00
left her for the choice of muggles from the01:18:03
Pokrovskys is out of the question, they didn’t run away from01:18:06
them to hell, but you’re just an01:18:09
actress, you’re with him and tell him, at least in01:18:11
the past, even though she seems to be01:18:14
filming now, you know most of these01:18:18
people, how can you do it in such a manner01:18:21
with such01:18:25
I don’t know the disgusting intonation of this one, lady at the same time, and yes,01:18:31
you’re right, there are some analogies there with01:18:34
some representatives of the animal01:18:36
world, but this is something terribly a lot just01:18:42
yesterday it just started falling on me, I01:18:45
wanted to look out of the corner of my eye, also only01:18:48
for one simple reason that many years01:18:51
ago I knew there and knew well your01:18:54
nobody and internally the morning star01:18:58
was wildly popular, he was one of the01:19:01
first such showmen as you know,01:19:03
then I knew that he was really01:19:05
seriously ill and so on, and suddenly I see01:19:08
he came crosswise that I was already01:19:10
somewhat surprised in itself, and because,01:19:13
as one of our colleagues says, it’s01:19:17
like a chair and there’s before you come01:19:19
here01:19:21
and01:19:23
Nikolaev’s garden there says I don’t know you well,01:19:26
so I did01:19:28
n’t explain the reason why the hat01:19:31
went,01:19:32
but I was deeply shocked by this kind of... then01:19:35
some kind of mishmash of01:19:38
fragmentary information that01:19:41
he emphasized from the Internet, which he in turn01:19:43
hates and despises, but no matter what he01:19:47
says, he refers to the Internet and in01:19:50
particular completely offensive things,01:19:52
for example Chulpan Khamatova’s water, that are simply01:19:56
insulting about the fund’s money and01:19:58
so on, and even Krasovsky objected to him01:20:02
also no, it’s not like that, she’s one and the same, he01:20:06
also heads some kind of fund, so01:20:09
he knows how it works, he01:20:11
referred to that she had nothing to do with01:20:15
money, which means on some of the01:20:17
Internet01:20:19
they attributed it to her as if she was this01:20:22
pound and brought in yes and still he01:20:26
continues to argue this Nikolaev that no, that’s how01:20:30
he generally vilely deceived01:20:33
sick children and then it’s some kind of horror01:20:37
endless some yes the same01:20:41
Krasovsky this is about the question of preparing for an01:20:44
interview when he says Ivan Petrovich01:20:47
Lapin all the strong Chairman of01:20:50
the State Television and Radio to you should woodman Nerve01:20:54
everything is equal to the mass, the mass of some01:20:57
not even reservations, but well, here you have it, or01:21:01
there he says, Valentin Zorin, he is01:21:03
still alive and ready, restive, late,01:21:06
iphone in the hands of such, they went,01:21:10
approximate in everything, just01:21:12
bring it closer on myself infinite this is an01:21:14
essay on some absolutely01:21:18
incorrect or even erroneous facts, but01:21:22
most of all I was shocked by Yura Nikolaev with01:21:25
complete approval of everything that was happening from the01:21:28
first01:21:30
lines of his words he says and I again arc in01:21:35
this always so maybe always was but01:21:39
seemed a light, bright and sweet person,01:21:43
age, but in the case of Yana Poplavskaya, not01:21:46
age, so after one,01:21:49
you look like this and are amazed, you know about I01:21:53
can’t look for it seriously, and so she has a01:21:55
disease a long time ago, imperial01:21:57
Soviet, you remember how she is also an01:21:59
order for Syria, it still01:22:02
lasts for quite a long time and naturally from Donbass, well,01:22:05
before, such notes could be traced, I do01:22:07
n’t say hello to banknotes, notes of01:22:10
unhealthy patriotism, I say again, I do01:22:12
n’t want anyone, I really01:22:15
want it, not because I have, wait, I’ll tell you01:22:20
my 1 101:22:23
1 I I don’t want to condemn anyone for the01:22:27
imperial consciousness of Syria or there, but01:22:30
I’m talking about one thing, I’m talking about the fact that01:22:34
suddenly at some point there are some rules of01:22:39
decency 3 well, you’re01:22:41
just looking at yourself if the parties01:22:44
seem to me, look at it, look at it01:22:50
the winner will snatch himself from this manner, new superiority from this01:22:53
intonation of an01:22:55
all-knowing person, for some reason you will arrogate to01:22:59
yourself the right to judge others, condemn others, and in01:23:04
every possible way, without choosing expressions, like about a01:23:08
pig grunt, and so on, and in01:23:11
every possible way, to defame your colleagues 101:23:14
I have had for a long time the answer, firstly, this is01:23:17
certainly connected with the so-called01:23:20
other point of view, because the other01:23:22
point of view is another point of01:23:25
view which is expressed in the fact01:23:28
that we must wage the war to a victorious end,01:23:31
we must conquer everyone, we will show everyone and01:23:34
ours became our soldiers, heroes, we will guide01:23:37
you guys guys come back victorious01:23:39
this is an impossible point of view this is a01:23:42
point of view that is complicity01:23:45
in a crime01:23:46
like this and I’ll tell you about this when they01:23:49
don’t condemn and it’s you who think that01:23:52
yes you are using the verb wait yes I01:23:55
will agree if you use the verb that they are from01:23:58
some- then they have the right to condemn01:24:00
and they don’t condemn,01:24:02
they brand these two big differences,01:24:05
they fulfill the task that the period the01:24:08
leadership of their country set for them,01:24:10
you understand, I give, I intentionally01:24:13
say their countries, they now have their own01:24:15
country in which there is no place for you, my01:24:17
dear, how would you be didn’t say01:24:19
that you are just a person too, you are nothing for them,01:24:23
so she doesn’t01:24:25
insult anyone and no, the beating is not people of01:24:27
the line, isn’t it a person, isn’t Tuminas and01:24:30
some Balts, as she says, and01:24:32
enemies of Russian culture, and01:24:35
this is not the same person Galkin and and don’t rot the man01:24:38
of silver for a week not people understand it01:24:42
was not each other before each other01:24:43
are people I assure you that01:24:47
if tomorrow one of them is declared a01:24:49
traitor and enemy of the people or a spy of the01:24:52
same Krasovsky or I don’t know who, God01:24:54
forgive me Tigran Keosayan or01:24:57
Solovyov, they will happily trample01:25:00
their former comrade with joy, I01:25:03
will also poplavskaya shout about01:25:05
weakening that he is a pig who grunted and01:25:08
grunted and [ __ ] under a bush along with the01:25:10
dogs, that’s what she will say,01:25:12
so this has nothing to do,01:25:14
sorry for the tautology, with their personal relationships01:25:16
personal relationships of a particular person, well,01:25:19
what are we for them? I really offended not people,01:25:23
no one, everyone who is against, remember01:25:26
Soviet history, who is not with us, someone here is01:25:29
against us, and if the enemy does not surrender, they01:25:32
destroy him, that’s all, actually, everyone01:25:35
disagrees, I don’t argue,01:25:39
okay, let him So I’m reading the01:25:43
goodbye questions, I don’t see any questions,01:25:47
unfortunately, or just visible,01:25:49
today’s lesson would be so good with you, I’m just01:25:51
numb from 20 years old, but there are a lot of likes 301:25:55
thousand people are watching us right now,01:25:57
thank you so much, we’re almost an hour and a half01:26:00
out that I want to make it before the end of01:26:03
our our our01:26:04
our connection peace I wanted to01:26:08
say about Matthew and I highly01:26:09
recommend it to everyone now you will say I’m just going to01:26:12
review as my recommendation I will not just draw01:26:14
your attention to what you often01:26:16
ask where is Matvey Matvey works in01:26:20
Kiev on the direct channel works on the01:26:22
Ukrainian-language channel and now, over the01:26:24
past week, not gay, over 10, he01:26:28
has appeared in several01:26:29
Russian-language formats, he is absolutely in his01:26:33
element, like what he can do is01:26:36
broadcast a large live broadcast with guests01:26:39
with different guests with different rates with01:26:42
video, communicate with the audience,01:26:44
he is does a project on the direct channel no higher01:26:48
there that was called people of war01:26:51
and now his01:26:54
author’s project called01:26:55
Gonopolsky and limited has also appeared there, that is, this is01:26:58
such a big broadcast with guests,01:27:00
naturally on the current agenda01:27:03
there and about Ukraine there and about there is a01:27:06
lot of Russia and in general he is incredibly good here01:27:08
and the second one was literally seen by the01:27:10
premiere today, also on the Ukrainian01:27:13
Russian-language channel in the morning of February, on01:27:16
which representatives of01:27:17
the Russian opposition often speak, including what we01:27:20
conventionally call good Russians there01:27:22
and Russian cultural figures often01:27:23
speak on this Russian-language channel and01:27:26
here Matvey also has his own01:27:27
author’s program called01:27:30
war and peace, it’s also clear what01:27:34
guests are coming to him there today, he01:27:36
talked with these straight Oreshkina Fedorov,01:27:39
well, in general, people are experts whom01:27:42
you probably also already know well, but I’m01:27:44
very glad that the matrix says that it is01:27:47
fun, that it will be in Russian, and it01:27:49
seems to me that this is a very important01:27:51
message, again, for the Russian01:27:53
Russian-speaking audience, so I draw01:27:55
your attention not to miss Elizabeth, they have01:27:58
their billion 2 recommendations01:28:01
did not have time to talk in detail, the first is,01:28:04
although you say that a lot let's01:28:07
talk about Ksenia Sobchak, but really, it01:28:09
seems to me that she works incredibly hard and01:28:12
well done, a very important issue dedicated to,01:28:17
I would say, not even the historical memory of01:28:20
amnesia, that is, the lack of historical01:28:24
memory, and01:28:25
in this issue we are talking specifically about the01:28:29
Afghan war,01:28:30
another good01:28:32
Afghan lesson, and01:28:35
among its speakers and and the heroes are01:28:39
participants in the Afghan war with their01:28:43
conclusions with their impressions with01:28:45
their testimonies and in my opinion it is01:28:48
very important and it is important to01:28:51
follow or an eyewitness is Misha Kozhukhov01:28:54
Mikhail Kozhukhov, a01:28:56
famous journalist who all year for many01:28:59
years, 6 years in my opinion, worked01:29:02
as a Komsomol correspondent during the war in01:29:04
Afghanistan and he talks about these01:29:07
censorship restrictions that were there01:29:10
and about his understanding of the nature of01:29:16
cruelty and sadism, which were very often01:29:19
encountered among Soviet soldiers at that time,01:29:23
who before this war began,01:29:26
we didn’t even suspect something like that in ourselves, and he01:29:29
refers there to I don’t remember now who or01:29:33
what. in a person there is always a struggle between a01:29:36
light and a dark place and God, and in war,01:29:41
misfortune most often wins this one without01:29:44
and01:29:45
how this then affects people who01:29:49
have gone through blood, through murder, through01:29:52
these terrible trials, there are a lot of01:29:55
very important and interesting things to follow,01:29:58
look,01:29:59
really, this is now relevant01:30:01
as never well, and the second for and add01:30:04
the docs of the Starover, all the fairy tales I will add01:30:07
about Afghan stories, Afghan hands01:30:09
by the author, I also agree that this is a very01:30:10
important program and it, in addition to01:30:13
deserves all the intersections of01:30:15
today, there is a very important topic raised01:30:17
as over time, how politics01:30:21
influences the assessment of history yes, how the01:30:24
attitude changes, how01:30:27
how, what is the difference between the understanding of01:30:30
eyewitnesses of events and the historian who01:30:33
then studies it and draws his own conclusions,01:30:37
by the way, there the jewish casings, he01:30:39
just acts in two roles, spirit hypostases01:30:44
122 in one bottle, it’s just that on the one01:30:46
hand he is certainly an eyewitness and a participant in01:30:48
these events as a war correspondent, and01:30:51
on the other hand, this is a person who01:30:53
has rethought a lot himself over01:30:55
time, and there, too, this topic01:30:57
comes up very much, how these assessments change, like01:31:01
what you see from the inside and it seems to you that01:31:03
this is one thing, and then when time passes you01:31:07
emerge from it you01:31:09
come out of this and look back and look at01:31:11
what it was, how you01:31:13
rethink it, this is an incredibly important01:31:15
moment,01:31:17
by the way, there are also those who still01:31:20
remain singers of the Soviet regime and singers of01:31:23
international friendship who are very01:31:25
masked, no, nothing has changed, there is one there01:31:27
such a character,01:31:28
but basically very interesting01:31:31
evidence and01:31:32
reflections on this topic are also closed,01:31:35
and the topic, by the way, is for before for our01:31:38
society, absolutely still forgive the last one,01:31:41
I’ll say that it seems important that this is the same01:31:44
post-syndrome pas trauma that survived an01:31:47
entire generation of01:31:49
participants in the Afghan war and before I01:31:53
have not yet recovered from this, this is what the01:31:55
current generation has to learn,01:31:57
which will return from Ukraine, from those01:32:02
soldiers and officers who are now there,01:32:04
who will remain alive,01:32:06
who will return back, this is a very01:32:10
serious thing, a tragic thing, it is01:32:12
not easy to work from it and, in fact, no one01:32:15
knows how so until now there has not been a recipe for01:32:18
how to deal with this, how to treat this stage01:32:22
with an island in a person who survived a terrible01:32:25
event, not only to treat the01:32:28
trauma, but simply to treat for there certain01:32:31
topics of relations towards veterans, the attitude of01:32:34
officials and authorities towards veterans who are01:32:37
still there with their who have become simply01:32:41
crippled and cannot go out into the street and will still01:32:45
hear you from there, they01:32:47
sent a mushroom and an important phrase in my opinion01:32:51
also leads to the living of Misha, quoting01:32:54
Babchenko, your homeland will always rush to01:32:57
this, including on this topic, well,01:33:00
here it would seem completely different because01:33:04
with this Alexey Pivorov she01:33:07
starts alone there and the Old Believers from there to01:33:11
here01:33:12
from you remember about two or three years ago he01:33:16
did an amazing issue in the editorial office already01:33:18
2 in my opinion he went to Brazil and01:33:23
filmed yes yes yes remember the Russian01:33:26
origin of the Old Believers who01:33:29
have never been to their homeland because their ancestors01:33:31
ran away, even in my opinion, during the01:33:34
church schism, and there they lived with their01:33:37
own, no less than with us, with their01:33:40
rules, with their customs, they01:33:43
all became successful farmers, there are01:33:46
absolutely incredible pictures of these01:33:48
fields, driving combines, and these people01:33:52
decided according to the program of resettlement of01:33:54
compatriots01:33:55
they found to return called when and01:33:59
there the three main characters 3 blue alone01:34:04
came from Brazil one of his heroes from01:34:07
that episode behind all the chats and they01:34:11
all have a lot of children and household members a01:34:13
year ago, the second around the same time and the01:34:17
third young couple is actually there recently and01:34:20
here is the impression of their collision with01:34:24
Russian reality,01:34:26
amazing changes in their language01:34:30
because they have already learned some of the local01:34:36
definitions there when one of them is01:34:39
beautiful, so colorful, maybe01:34:42
bearded, he says, for example, they messed up,01:34:45
and at the same time he uses some words that are01:34:47
almost01:34:49
Old Slavonic, well, the most important thing is how01:34:52
funny this attempt at adaptation is for01:34:54
some, some have no01:34:56
local relationships, including01:35:00
those who01:35:02
come from the01:35:03
habit of always working, that is, this01:35:07
causes some people to exclusively01:35:10
reject why they were given it, they gave it to me,01:35:14
although there’s a wild amount of land they say01:35:16
take it, I don’t want anyone, it’s poisoning a01:35:19
cow from one of the farmers, but why did he get01:35:23
cows and why is this a huge,01:35:27
multi-layered01:35:28
episode where in the end even Alexey01:35:31
asks our questions about what’s happening and01:35:34
horror, I discovered that most likely01:35:36
the Old Believer began to watch TV dates01:35:39
that01:35:41
well judging by the fact that although they speak in such a very01:35:44
streamlined way, the01:35:47
meaning is approximately up to the concept, apparently01:35:51
civilization has finally won, although01:35:53
they are extremely civilized people,01:35:56
apparently they work on modern01:35:59
technology, they01:36:00
use the Internet, it’s so01:36:03
funny there young people when on the one hand I’m01:36:07
not all national girls, especially in01:36:10
sundresses of some kind - then01:36:13
they also sew dresses like these themselves, and on the other hand, the volumes01:36:15
where you meet on the Internet are so01:36:19
very funny and sometimes01:36:22
dramatic, and what’s also important is that I noticed01:36:25
a long time ago, well, as I didn’t say, of course, Alexey, a policeman01:36:28
in the army, has a wonderful gift for01:36:30
storytelling, there’s01:36:31
a lot of him there. these so-01:36:34
called stand-up passages when he01:36:37
simply tells us a story and01:36:40
some collisions that he can01:36:43
tell, and he has this,01:36:45
I want to tell you this message,01:36:49
which was once formulated by the01:36:52
Andronikov RKP or one of the researchers of01:36:56
his television creativity is01:36:58
very important and the fact that Nikita Mikhalkov,01:37:01
by the way, uses this, I want to01:37:05
tell you01:37:06
with a very correct human01:37:10
intonation, I’m not used to it right-wing talk01:37:13
about brewers, well, today we01:37:15
had a conversation about intonation and I01:37:18
repeat, it also seems to me that this01:37:19
incredibly important, in any case, well, yes,01:37:21
here’s cheese for us and we want human01:37:24
language and we find it, there01:37:26
are people among us among zombies, there are01:37:29
people, dear friends, it’s important to just be01:37:31
wrong and find the direction to look01:37:34
where the light is, that’s the same case they usually01:37:37
say, what are you you’re looking for dessert there, but you01:37:39
have to look where the light is and find it,01:37:42
so look,01:37:44
I’ll send it to you, I see that01:37:47
new videos are falling out, oh my god, and01:37:49
this is what she’s doing, look, look,01:37:52
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