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Начало
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Представление гостя
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Заставка
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Краткая история начала
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Про эстетику "безобразного" - (80-90е годы)
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Что прекрасного запомнилось из времени 90х
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Осознание что любовь к 90м это сильная сторона
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Про академическое обучение фотографии
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Какое было начальное направление
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Какое отношение к Still life сейчас?
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Как Ольга перешла от Still life к портретной съемке селебрети
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Про журнальную фото карьеру с 2000 по 2015е (от Гущина)
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Часто ли топовые селебрити требуют своего фотографа на съемки
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Как Ольга находит общий язык с Селебрити
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Есть ли попытка дружить с селебрити?
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Про дружбу на съемке
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Про работу с мужчинами и женщинами
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Период звездной болезни и про то что нужно для отличной съемки
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Конкуренция и был бы успех в Европе?
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Про цели
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Про конкуренцию
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Что произойдет если все ориентиры в фотографии пропадут
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Вопрос говно от Нодии: Идем ли мы к формированию фэшн рынка?
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Персональные проекты
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Про съемку с Димой Игатовым
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Ольга Тупоногова-Волкова
Тупоногова
Волкова
Тупоногова-Волкова
Глянец
Журнальная съемка
селебрити
селебы
съемка селебрити
съемка селебов
съемка знаменитостей
индустрия моды
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this is the isolation episode of the club fund again,
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and today we have an incredible guest in addition to the three
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usual characters,
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we were very worried and sought
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the attention of this person,
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firstly because this woman is a
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rare woman we appreciate very much, and
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secondly, this is the most probably one
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of the most versatile photographers in the
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glossy world in Russia, she photographed all the
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celebrities you probably know or do
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n’t even know yet Olga stupidly Volkova a lot of things
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hello guys
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[music]
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please tell me
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very briefly how your
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story began but not from quite there like
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me I was born, yes, and this is a countercurrent, I
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grew up for 6 years, then I began to grow, namely from the
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point of view of more professional
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conscious activities in the field of
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photography, which was the first
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turning point when you became like this, but
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I’m still a photographer, honestly, I’m still probably
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somehow they don’t really realize that I’m a
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photographer, they
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recently asked me, do you know about
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impostor syndrome, what is it, at
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first I didn’t know what it was, I googled it, and then
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I realized that it’s just my disease,
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it’s called when you completely deny
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all your merits and explain it to you
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some kind of luck, a
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coincidence and a happy occasion, and I have
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nothing to do with it in general, but I just
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stood there pressing a button, this is absolutely
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my option, so this is such an
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awareness that I am a photographer and there I
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have achieved something, this is not
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absent at all, but I also often tell
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that I myself have a severe case
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because I have impostor syndrome with
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outbreaks of star fever and this is like a
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very serious case, that is, sometimes it
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happens to me, but it’s more likely due to work
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because it’s very demanding, I want
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some kind of proper preparation for shooting so
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that everyone is with burning
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eyes with people like me, so that’s
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the moment I remember the most vivid thing:
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when I went to study at the Academy of
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Photography and ended up with iris van sleeves,
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well, he’s probably the person who
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just put the idea in my head
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that photography is such a huge
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platform, huge a space where there is
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enough space for everyone in general and it doesn’t matter what
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you shoot, what interests you,
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how
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unusual or ordinary you are, you will photograph
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children, dogs, nature, or like John Peter
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will be a movie of people who are no longer alive, it doesn’t matter
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photography, it is accessible to everyone,
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it allows you to open up, you are in one
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interview, she said an interesting phrase
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that caught my attention, that you are proud
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that you were hooked on the service, they say 90 at
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that age when you could somehow
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say that you already perceive beauty and you
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said that you caught that aesthetic and
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that’s why you now have that in the fall of 390
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I’m writing to my allies about this stage and that
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you caught the aesthetics but the Soviet Union of
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all those times the stream of the nineties is but
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the aesthetics that many consider the aesthetics
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of the ugly from them when I talked about
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this there we were talking about the beautiful and I
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understood and you know all the problems and I was
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just talking more about my childhood my
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childhood must be the 90s, that is, I grabbed
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what it was, very cozy and not an alarming childhood,
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some kind of well, that is, some kind of when I
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remember myself, it’s more like there 87 88 that is,
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here I am little and I
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probably took something from there and plus I’m a fan of Soviet
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cinema, which influenced me very much,
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and she inspires me as a teacher,
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and this movie is radically
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different, for example, from the cinema of the 90s, where
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such good trash had just started
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breaking, breaking, there remained good
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until narrow sounds were heard, like something
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such a school and at the same time they began to
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destroy something like this and there was still
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something left in it, then everyone has already demolished everything,
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look, but you can exactly, we do
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n’t know in detail, I’m really very
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interested in what exactly you remembered what
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trigger you remembered it from this the
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88 of the seventh year,
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what exactly was beautiful that you remember
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because it would have changed a lot there before the
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culture has changed, but roughly like 8
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8 apartments, I remember up to 8 8 apartments and
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in ninety-eight absolutely nothing
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changed, well, that is,
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you didn’t add any new furniture nothing,
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but still there are some triggers
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that caught you in this, I’m just
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interested because there really is a
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lot of aesthetics and you’re talking about it, this is the
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only person I’ve
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met so far who talks about the aesthetics of
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that time as something incredible
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beautiful just like that, more everyday and there was
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something that was a trigger, well, first of all, I
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spent a lot of time and my
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grandmother lived on a middle Finnish side street
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and I remember just some old Moscow,
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I remember trips to the bookstore,
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some postcards,
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that smell I remember books with me, so you
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know, a folding cup and you
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pour soda from the bakery, you could
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go and completely eat a loaf of bread,
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that is, it’s some kind of just a
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feeling of childhood
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that was probably cool, I don’t know,
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there were cool children’s books and there was this
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thing called a filmstrip which
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still evokes some feeling in me
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and well, it doesn’t seem like it’s just
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some kind of happy childhood, it has nothing
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to do with it, but specifically with an apartment with furniture
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and something to do with how you
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spent your childhood, what impressed you that is, it turns out that
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you managed to
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absorb all that
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lucky romanticism to Soviet images of
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feelings and so on, and so on, and that is, at
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some point you realized that
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this is like your strength, one of
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your strengths, that is, you can
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take it and use it and in this way you
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differ from people who, for example,
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decided to forget all this or
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use some other style there, well, you’re
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absolutely right, I probably somehow absorbed it all, you
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know, there were even such
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cases that people wrote to me and said that
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they they can’t look at my pictures
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because they irritate them, because
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from my pictures it’s clear that I had a
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happy
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childhood and in general I’m so successful, but here
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it was started in
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some small town, I have nothing to
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live on and she’s not really for me they don’t
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like me because I broadcast some kind
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of happiness, many people don’t like me also
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because he is an artist, he must suffer, but in a
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good way he must be poor through
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suffering, he has real something like this
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happening, I don’t know, well, well, apparently, yes, I
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am somehow I personify a
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child who was very loved in childhood,
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although I don’t know and I received a belt and
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feel fine and I
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think that it was deserved, apparently, I
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propose to return a little to our
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outline of a consistent story,
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after all, and you were just discussing the
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academies of photography and Gushchin studied there and
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you studied as an ult and at the brigade, yes, you
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taught there and I, by the way, also
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taught there, in short, in general,
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Busin constantly humiliates us by the fact that we,
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Gusev and I, actually did
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n’t study anywhere, that is, we are precisely the
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academic part training, we
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actually missed it,
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we are super self-taught, and Gushchin is such a duh, and
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there in London, back and forth, and I understand
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that both Dima and you, he just captured it, let’s
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say we don’t know, at least
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by European to Western standards, the
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correct training system that is,
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you had a mentor, you talk a lot
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about Iris and about other teachers
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too, and I’m interested to know
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how much academic fundamental
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training influenced your development
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as a photographer, not only creative but also
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technical, because well, of
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course, everyone is different, but mine I won’t
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ask this general experience shows that girls
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usually work but a little differently
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Autumns are not super technical
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when I listen to your interview you
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work with the film you have there and
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wanted you shoot very cool still
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life a still life this is a very technical
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photograph you know how to retouch that
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is, you have a direct but supervise, so in short,
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you are super versatile not only in
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areas but also in your skills,
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both technical and creative, and I’m
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interested in whether it’s the influence of
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academic training or whether you’re
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like that on your own and within this framework, what
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advice would you give to the guys? which I don’t know,
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maybe they are watching us now and
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they want to study, and because it seems to me
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that, in principle,
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academic education in Russia in
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photography is a little discredited,
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that is, there are too many simple schools,
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each of us has 2 teachers there,
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etc. but how did it affect you and
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how important do you think this is? Well,
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first of all, and I still think that we do
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not have an academic education in terms of
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photography,
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maybe this is the only thing in geek camera rooms,
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but it’s just that they train
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operators there and there is a system there,
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I found a piece of this system
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because my technique, not technical theory of
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photography, was taught to
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sing by the wise man of who at that time was
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in VGIK in the camera department and I buried myself
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in these classes, i.e. I didn’t understand anything,
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that is, I came out and understood that a photographer is
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not for me, I can’t grasp this essence for
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them, moreover, I’m not interested in
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technical skills in terms of light,
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probably a good one,
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Andrei Rogozin gave me such a seed because he did
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n’t even give birth to it when I did
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I studied, but rather,
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when I went to the Academy of Photography
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to teach, he developed his own system
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of how to show people how to work with light, and
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I had it intuitively, but in order to
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tell people I had to understand the
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technology, how to explain it to them so that
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certain
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signs
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and some logic would appear on a completely blank sheet of paper. what happens to the
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light when we put it here when it’s
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soft when it’s hard that’s when I
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started to disassemble what I just
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did on its own, so it
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seems to me that I’m just as self-taught and to
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me it’s more likely that it’s a complex of everything in general
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and what I’ve learned I also learned
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some of my abilities and probably still a
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lawyer who didn’t tell something technically,
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although he did tell it
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technically, but rather
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put your brains and yours in the right
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position because you need to understand that
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he has a completely different mentality,
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he sees differently they think and
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he had a very strong influence with this, that
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is, if our old
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Soviet photographers are like that, they will, as they
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say, compose you into something
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to yury, most likely all this opened all 1
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cube of arrivals and what do you have and
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looked at what you have
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what will come of you probably probably
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it’s something like this and now I would
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advise everyone to have their own way to
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just find something that inspires and
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then there is a result, well, roughly
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speaking, this is how you went to play
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sports, you tried I don’t know kickboxing
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just rocking aerobatics yoga saikal running
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swimming, so I tried it, I realized
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something, I’m bored there, it’s not hard there, I’m
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just not a good person, but for example,
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I like swimming, so I get the
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same result, roughly speaking, no, there are some
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physical activities, but I get pleasure from them;
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get nicknames; that’s why
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our photo is like this huge, for some
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reason everyone thinks that right now it’s
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a little wrong, everyone is trying to figure out how to
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make money and how to become successful, but this is
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already a dead end, you have to go in order to get
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high, so you can
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have fun where
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I am now, the high is just a
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little bit left, you cling to it because
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this is already your profession, you can get
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very tired and hate this whole thing
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because you are a little bit tired
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and you are always trying to be in
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some format,
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and when you just start learning you have
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even more freedom
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than then you become a hostage even to
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your knowledge and I know so many skills,
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well-known photographers who
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are still in search of
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experiments, but no one
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needs it, they need what they did five years
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ago, and the photographer himself is no longer interested, he
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wants to develop, he wants to become
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better today than yesterday and do something new
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find something new and the industry around
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it is developing a little slower than
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all creative units than the photographer,
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makeup artists, stylists, the client himself, roughly
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speaking, is still on a different level,
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something Jacopo Nolan, yes, can we
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go back a little and we can
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talk a little about what everything as far
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as I understand again,
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correct me if I’m wrong, you
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started doing
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still life object photography from the very beginning, and portraits
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and fashion photography, I understand this, but initially,
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when I was still studying, I was of course a portraitist,
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that is, I took portraits, portraits, and
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stillife, they didn’t bother me at all it worked out and I did
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n’t feel anything for him, it’s just that when I
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started shooting for Aventine magazines,
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this niche is the key subject,
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it was absolutely not occupied by anyone, that is, I don’t
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know, there was a
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lawyer who shot the subject for advertising
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and it’s expensive, just for magazines it’s
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just some interesting stories and
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just some beauty section
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got to the people who were filming
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just sending,
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that is, you are forced to talk about the buttons
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as if faster, they just offered me to
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film
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11 life 2 and it turned out that I
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could do it, I myself began to look for
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someone to emulate I found a photographer who
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shoots this for the rest of my life for a
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French issue and for me from a guru in
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Stella Fe
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I started copying it you have a cafe at home I
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always recommend it by the way in your
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screensaver I saw a small picture there it looks
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like a dilapidated camera in the sand
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I think that this is Litman,
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this is also a very good
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Stella box, I’ll help, I just
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remember Carson’s course for everyone, you’ll
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cut it out,
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no, maybe this is a bank, in my opinion, that is, the
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stillife plan, it was a completely
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independent development, too, when I
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was studying, this topic was not very
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interesting to me and technically I was not I was
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ready for it now in the fall, you’ll think about yours with Anji,
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first of all, I shoot him very
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rarely, I’ve been trying for so long to
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stop being considered a subject
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photographer and still
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they let me shoot people more and more, but unfortunately they
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label you as those who shoot
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fashion, we have a lot of those who shoot
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portraits, too, a lot,
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and stillife is one or two and miscalculated, and
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accordingly, when the art director of
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the magazine thinks about who to give this shoot to,
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he thinks, well, stupidly Volkov’s leg
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will shoot us an excellent accessory story with
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objects, or as I call it
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limbs, then arms, but it’s not that I
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hate it, but someone else will take a portrait,
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but I wanted to go to another category and I
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purposefully tried to
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refuse some stories at first, then
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Stella Fairy, there were categories left that I
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really love, this is jewelry,
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even the fattest one
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where there is where there is where there is where to roam,
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and after what 2
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when we had a crisis always 8 4
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probably after 14 until there were fewer and fewer
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of these jewelry shoots,
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they just disappeared on their own and I had
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fewer of them, that is, I forcibly
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transferred myself I fought in another category for
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the fact that I can shoot people, they only
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stillife stillife I still probably
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love it, but I
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love it with a good team with a good idea, they
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just won’t do it for money, for a
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lot of money boom, well, can you now
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tell me how you were able to
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move on? from shooting from the mark, let’s say
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still life of the photographer to shooting the
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strength of the buff, it’s like it’s clear, that
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is, the
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shooting both sat down now I’ll tell you
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how this happens, the mechanism, the thing is that
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I probably understood how the
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actress who comes to the shoot feels,
00:20:22
she wants to like herself, she needs to understand
00:20:25
that an actress separates herself from cinema and
00:20:29
photography
00:20:30
very much; a film actress can be
00:20:32
anything, but she can be older than her
00:20:35
age, but maybe with different
00:20:37
facial features, she can be without makeup with
00:20:40
different hair, whatever because
00:20:42
you are her role, she is filming, she wants to be
00:20:44
yourself and she wants to be cool and
00:20:48
accordingly when some
00:20:50
photographer took a good photo of you 1 1 2 1
00:20:53
then the third time you ask this
00:20:55
photographer you simply set your
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conditions for this photographer to shoot me,
00:21:01
here it turns out to be a kind of vicious circle, there
00:21:03
is a pool of actresses and there are two photographers
00:21:09
who are taking them off, it’s
00:21:13
almost impossible to get there, you don’t need to
00:21:15
get that one chance and let’s just say
00:21:19
don’t crap yourself, it’s Danil heads and you
00:21:22
no no, I think that it’s better than anyone who
00:21:27
removes heads on caps, I generally
00:21:30
think yes, I generally think these are my two
00:21:32
favorite
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photographers and accordingly, when you
00:21:37
get such a chance and you do it
00:21:41
well, then those are the same heroes for whom
00:21:45
communication with the photographer is important so that
00:21:48
it is comfortable, so that it is fast, so that the
00:21:51
light is complementary money disfigures
00:21:54
them and that’s when, if you
00:21:56
succeed, they remember you but it
00:21:59
was not easy way and let’s say there are
00:22:02
some personalities in our industry
00:22:04
who have influence on the heroes and can
00:22:09
advise you, I won’t reveal
00:22:12
the names, but this is a stylist and what kind of
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people are they in this wing of the profession, yes, these are
00:22:19
all from the industry, stylists and makeup artists, and
00:22:22
so on, you can just for people
00:22:25
who don’t really understand how
00:22:27
glossy magazines work in principle, well, that is,
00:22:32
I understand that now
00:22:34
I’m repeating myself a little, I’m Kaguya,
00:22:36
let me quickly tell you, I’ll also tell us in
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which magazine at some time I worked
00:22:40
in non-glossy ones and we’re just like
00:22:42
you she told me that in principle the
00:22:44
rider cheese and dax were jumping and due to the fact that, in
00:22:45
principle, the art director takes his team,
00:22:48
he first works in one magazine for some reason, there is
00:22:50
one in Russia or it was at
00:22:54
that time exactly 2000 2002 under 2015
00:22:58
exactly people jumped the magazine well,
00:23:00
but every two or three years
00:23:01
our teams didn’t stay
00:23:05
for long, they found out how it usually happens,
00:23:07
as far as I understand, in European
00:23:09
countries in America and so on where people
00:23:10
sit in their places and our
00:23:13
teams are always jumping, they undertake to be the
00:23:15
whole team, including the
00:23:17
photographer and it turns out that if you
00:23:20
work there in the direction of gloss, I found out
00:23:22
and you already have some good
00:23:25
contacts there, for example with the director or with
00:23:27
photo editors
00:23:29
with the editor-in-chief with someone, then this
00:23:33
person will most likely take over for you if you
00:23:35
have a contact
00:23:36
the next place and very often this is a chance it
00:23:39
turns out that you even have this with and you yourself did
00:23:41
n’t seem to do anything for this, that
00:23:43
is, you worked with these people you didn’t
00:23:45
like the threads they took them to another
00:23:46
digital magazine, then another magazine then in a
00:23:48
third magazine and so on it turns out
00:23:50
that you kind of weigh the cycle, this is
00:23:54
one of one of the ways how people, roughly
00:23:58
speaking, in this magazine
00:23:59
and the photographer, including travel and
00:24:01
work there, but still there is, for example,
00:24:04
if we now go deeper into
00:24:06
photographing
00:24:08
celebrities that I know about only from a
00:24:11
commercial point of view, and there are completely
00:24:12
different rules in the glossy world, well, that is, it
00:24:16
happens that celeb says,
00:24:18
for example, magazines I don’t know [ __ ] or there’s
00:24:23
Marie a clerk with anyone, that I
00:24:26
just want to shoot with this photographer for a
00:24:29
shoot and that’s it, and this often happens and a common
00:24:32
story among top gun Livs, yes, for me, you
00:24:38
said correctly that you get
00:24:40
used to working with someone, then this art
00:24:42
director or fashion director or style director
00:24:45
moves to another magazine and he
00:24:47
calls you and yes, it worked for me, but
00:24:50
it worked for me and in the opposite direction
00:24:52
because there is someone who, for example, communicates well with
00:24:55
you, smiles at you behind your back
00:25:00
and doesn’t love you behind your back and won’t let
00:25:04
me in, there are some magazines where they don’t let me in for
00:25:06
some reason, even though you people
00:25:09
haven’t even really worked with me
00:25:11
Nicky Label is doing my story rather, and the
00:25:16
magazines were calling me, but to a greater extent, what’s
00:25:19
happening now is that the hero is calling me,
00:25:23
that is, he insists that it’s
00:25:25
me who films,
00:25:28
for example, the incredible story with Natasha
00:25:31
Vodyanova, which I filmed once and
00:25:36
it was very quick shooting,
00:25:39
probably an hour and a half, she just walked up
00:25:42
to the laptop and said Olya, you
00:25:48
will now shoot all my covers, I
00:25:50
thought it was a
00:25:51
serious joke, but I was very pleased, but
00:25:54
six months later I was offered a big
00:25:56
big project for Marie Claire
00:25:58
with a cover with Natasha and she called me
00:26:01
that is, it really works
00:26:04
correctly, they say first you work
00:26:06
in your own name, then and the name works for you
00:26:09
because now some
00:26:14
actresses come to the shoot that they asked me for,
00:26:17
for example, I already shot this actress,
00:26:20
I had two such cases, they did
00:26:23
n’t even remember this, they asked me
00:26:26
only because their other friend
00:26:29
said that it was an awesome shoot and was filming the
00:26:31
stupid new Volkov and suddenly
00:26:33
everyone stupidly wanted Volkov’s leg
00:26:35
and didn’t even remember that they had already
00:26:37
filmed there with me many years ago, so
00:26:39
this is some kind of word of mouth,
00:26:41
she’s definitely there, well
00:26:44
I won’t hide it because it is, I don’t know whether it’s
00:26:46
good or bad, the main question is what do
00:26:49
you do for this on the set on your own,
00:26:53
like, well, that is, I understand that it’s
00:26:55
very difficult to explain, but
00:26:57
please try, it’s very interesting, that is,
00:27:03
how do you find a common language celebrity
00:27:05
who for the most part, in my
00:27:08
experience, are quite capricious people, not all of them, not
00:27:13
all of them, but not on top of that, they are all different, they are
00:27:16
all certainly secondly, some people have
00:27:19
whims that are really
00:27:22
justified by something, I understand why they are
00:27:25
asking for something like this from someone they break through
00:27:29
just by the way, it’s much less common and it’s more
00:27:31
often not such top stars, so they are
00:27:36
more capricious and show off
00:27:38
and you just kind of stand there and think what am
00:27:41
I doing here, we
00:27:42
shouldn’t have met, I don’t, I don’t
00:27:48
know what I’m doing, maybe this is what - to
00:27:51
be honest, I have a very mutual feeling with everyone who calls me,
00:27:56
that is, everyone who
00:28:01
will say something good about me and why they
00:28:03
love me, I’ll probably say the same thing about all of them, it’s
00:28:06
just a coincidence well,
00:28:10
plus I’m somehow very tactful, I
00:28:15
understand that firstly it has to be fast,
00:28:18
I can’t torture our rice for a
00:28:21
long time since I, for example, can
00:28:24
do this with a model because they have
00:28:28
everything arranged differently, firstly you need to
00:28:30
understand that this is a model, this model is
00:28:33
generally separate creatures from a separate
00:28:36
planet, we generally just take them as a
00:28:38
separate category, we take everyone else,
00:28:40
we take them just like ordinary people,
00:28:46
firstly, quickly, and secondly, they themselves know I
00:28:49
always ask, for example, the working
00:28:52
side,
00:28:53
I can rearrange the working side for the working side,
00:28:55
after all, the whole world that is, I am quite touching
00:28:58
about some of their
00:29:01
troubles, but at the same time I can stand on something
00:29:04
and it works when they
00:29:08
trust you, but if they don’t trust you, then I
00:29:10
couldn’t do anything, but if they
00:29:12
trusted you, then you
00:29:15
can carefully carefully
00:29:17
spin it more and more into some more
00:29:19
daring story that you are trying to be
00:29:25
friends with these people, unfortunately I don’t know how,
00:29:29
I would really like to, that is, you need to understand
00:29:32
that most of them are so
00:29:33
charismatic that they come in and
00:29:35
start telling something and you
00:29:37
just you’re just a magnet there,
00:29:40
you’re just so fascinated, I’m still
00:29:42
very amorous,
00:29:44
well, that is, I can fall in love right from the first sight of
00:29:47
this person, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a
00:29:48
man or a woman, I’ll listen, I
00:29:50
’ll be fascinated,
00:29:52
and being friends should somehow
00:29:57
develop by itself I’ve never tried to
00:29:59
kind of
00:30:01
stand on the same
00:30:04
level and try to communicate, no, I’m ready to
00:30:07
very modestly remain in the shadows as just a
00:30:11
photographer, but I’ll be happy just because they
00:30:13
trust me and let me shoot,
00:30:15
what more do I mean being friends for
00:30:18
shooting even that’s exactly
00:30:20
what and what if a person doesn’t make contact with you
00:30:23
and you leave him as he is
00:30:25
and take him off as he is and
00:30:27
try to do something like this, as
00:30:29
it usually happens, or they always
00:30:31
ban him in different ways, which is always much more
00:30:33
first of all the most ideal case is when
00:30:36
you immediately matched, you just
00:30:38
felt each other and here, by the way, to be
00:30:40
friends, she’s already further your relationship is
00:30:43
somehow torn apart, and there are people who,
00:30:48
in principle, you don’t immediately like and you
00:30:50
just behave like a professional,
00:30:53
communicate very politely and do your
00:30:56
best but probably there is no such soul there,
00:31:00
there are people whom you admired
00:31:06
and very quickly became disillusioned, there are people who are
00:31:09
closed to him, you won’t get through no matter what you
00:31:12
do, but for me it was
00:31:15
unusually very easy with men
00:31:18
because I’m like this, a little bit
00:31:20
strange, this is my manner communicate but
00:31:23
this and everyone at once melts a little and
00:31:26
is afraid with them better not that’s why I think,
00:31:28
of course,
00:31:29
different ones are more important for them these charms don’t
00:31:31
work they’re women another why
00:31:35
they work they just need to understand different
00:31:41
two different planets a man and a woman are not
00:31:43
inexplicable it’s just with me
00:31:46
In principle, it’s easier for men to set the light,
00:31:50
the more brutal the harsher the
00:31:54
better, less retouching, don’t
00:31:57
think about
00:31:58
having a super complementary light, but I’ve had
00:32:01
cases where I’m doing this and that, and
00:32:04
very carefully from people, they’re just
00:32:06
closed and won’t let in and Afterwards I won’t
00:32:09
say who it is
00:32:10
and I thought that this shooting was a failure, but for
00:32:13
me this person is just a cult
00:32:15
personality, I really dreamed of filming him,
00:32:19
I was very upset, it seemed to me that
00:32:21
the shooting was a failure and when I came home
00:32:24
from looking at the pictures, I realized that
00:32:27
awesome portraits with such a look
00:32:29
because the person was absolutely
00:32:31
closed, he didn’t let you in, he somehow very
00:32:34
practically didn’t even
00:32:36
talk, and that’s why I’m for
00:32:39
just being an observer and if a person does
00:32:42
n’t let you in, he doesn’t need to be more comfortable, that’s
00:32:45
how
00:32:52
I honestly admit It's been a while since
00:32:55
I had a period of such small star glasses
00:32:58
when they put them up like that, it's really good, well, that
00:33:01
is, you've already started
00:33:03
to get something done, you understand, for example, what
00:33:06
is needed, I can now just
00:33:08
list on my fingers that it is not necessary
00:33:09
for the shooting to turn out well, let's go good
00:33:13
preparation, I need my team, good
00:33:16
preparation, a good idea, and working out
00:33:19
cool locations so that I know
00:33:23
what’s going on, and then I can
00:33:27
completely deviate from this
00:33:29
vector for shooting, improvise, and when you
00:33:32
suddenly have in your head a certain formula for
00:33:36
successful shooting, you you feel
00:33:38
confident, therefore,
00:33:41
different teams come, all with different
00:33:43
budgets, before magazines,
00:33:45
there is someone who has not worked with you and you
00:33:48
communicate with him exactly at the same level as
00:33:50
if you were communicating with your
00:33:52
usual team and people don’t understand a little
00:33:54
and I can’t feel this moment
00:33:57
tough, rude, because
00:34:00
of this, by the way, many people don’t like me,
00:34:02
they can be very demanding and I
00:34:06
can attack the producer, why
00:34:09
not this studio, I don’t understand, they
00:34:12
shoot everything there, I don’t shoot, that is, I
00:34:13
started to behave quite harshly, and
00:34:17
my friends began to notice it and the
00:34:20
relatives who were talking came
00:34:22
home, he took off the correspondent, but because I was
00:34:27
already at home, too, it was as if
00:34:29
fate was giving me a good smack because
00:34:33
I had a moment when suddenly everything
00:34:35
calmed down,
00:34:36
I allowed myself on Instagram to
00:34:39
speak out very boldly, boldly speak out
00:34:40
about fashionable young and successful
00:34:43
photographers,
00:34:44
thus I perfectly understood that they did
00:34:47
not hurt the feelings of
00:34:49
these young photographers and hurt the
00:34:51
feelings of their colleagues, for example, stylists
00:34:53
who began to shoot with them not with
00:34:56
me, well, that is, I allowed myself a number of
00:34:58
actions
00:35:00
that at some point sus clap
00:35:02
voice and my frantic busyness suddenly
00:35:05
disappeared, I realized this very well and I
00:35:09
suddenly realized that I couldn’t sit without
00:35:10
filming, I simply couldn’t live without
00:35:13
filming, and for the birth I took it off, put it in a locker,
00:35:17
closed it, started communicating with
00:35:20
people differently, first get started for everything that I had
00:35:23
already refused for a long time and fate saw
00:35:28
that I accepted the lesson and returned the letters
00:35:30
back to me, so probably this
00:35:33
self-confidence of mine will be an
00:35:36
impostor syndrome that alternates with
00:35:38
outbreaks of star fever, which you need to
00:35:41
realize sometimes that you
00:35:45
have gone too far before, perhaps taking into account now let's
00:35:48
talk about competition in your world,
00:35:52
first of all, I'm very interested in
00:35:55
competition and your competitor and
00:35:57
it sounds in your field specifically, who do
00:36:01
you consider your competitors,
00:36:02
you look at someone somehow, you probably get
00:36:04
inspired because we are
00:36:05
competitors, you need to be inspired, as if
00:36:07
because this one is yours the engine
00:36:09
it gives you in self-development further
00:36:12
constants so on if there are no
00:36:14
competitors then it’s like a business business
00:36:17
there is no competition that’s all and the second slightly
00:36:22
more distant question could you, with
00:36:26
your level of your portfolio, be a
00:36:30
successful photographer in Europe like this
00:36:32
if we take only the photographic
00:36:34
part and and this is probably wrong
00:36:37
because it’s all together, we
00:36:40
just talked about communication with our
00:36:43
team,
00:36:45
I’ll now tell you some of my observations,
00:36:52
I was lucky enough to shoot, for example,
00:36:56
some French actress
00:36:59
there, I shot Banderas,
00:37:02
I shot some kind of fashion in Milan
00:37:05
completely with Italian production, that
00:37:09
is, I had some experience of getting there
00:37:12
or at locations, it
00:37:14
would just be when your subject of shooting is not a
00:37:19
Russian person, it’s all different
00:37:25
as it is now, I’ll explain I would really
00:37:31
like to see how I would be if I were
00:37:34
n’t nervous and next to I wouldn’t have had
00:37:37
an IV before because it’s clear from the fact
00:37:40
that I photograph Hollywood stars,
00:37:43
if I were with the dead there, I
00:37:47
would film them as best as I can, I
00:37:51
would be very interested in seeing this
00:37:55
because I would really like them too
00:37:59
a little different
00:38:02
they are very involved in the process they are
00:38:08
different faces you need this you need to
00:38:12
understand for sure that it’s just different
00:38:14
another face there is different speech therefore
00:38:17
different facial expressions other facial features
00:38:19
French Italians I don’t know American it’s
00:38:22
just everything is different and maybe we do
00:38:28
n’t relate to ourselves that way but this is what Asian
00:38:32
market, yes, they cling so much to Slavic faces,
00:38:35
extinguishing for them something that they
00:38:37
don’t have, we also cling to what we have and
00:38:41
don’t pay attention to what we have, I do
00:38:44
n’t evaluate myself in any way in relation to
00:38:47
world photography because it’s stupid I
00:38:49
would like to have a daughter, I really like to
00:38:51
dream, I don’t even have it
00:38:53
ready, I also often tell me there is a
00:38:56
ready speech for receiving an Oscar, that’s
00:38:59
what I needed it for, it’s been around for a long time
00:39:02
because I’m such a dreamer and that
00:39:04
probably suits me, I kind of
00:39:07
dreamed, so what? it would be great it’s
00:39:10
like it happened to me even once I was
00:39:12
late for a meeting don’t answer the question at all
00:39:14
then cut it out now I’ll quickly
00:39:16
tell you and I was late for the meeting and my girlfriends
00:39:18
explained listen you know I was late
00:39:20
because I was on Helen’s show but
00:39:24
she was interviewing interview you know yes
00:39:27
which Helen show but thousand I really
00:39:31
just had a thing in the bathtub I introduced myself that
00:39:33
she was interviewing me and I really
00:39:35
told her about something I told her about
00:39:37
Moscow traffic jams about how I was driving from the
00:39:40
shoot well just that’s what she would have
00:39:43
It’s interesting that she’s never been to Moscow and
00:39:45
in short, I was so immersed and that I
00:39:48
had the feeling that I really had this
00:39:51
interview, it doesn’t mean that I’m like that, it’s
00:39:53
crazy, I think that someday
00:39:56
I’ll have all this, no, I’m like
00:39:58
I experienced it and it’s kind of cool, it’s
00:40:01
cool for me that I can immerse myself in
00:40:03
some kind of separate world of my own and
00:40:04
experience it there, so I’m very scared, for
00:40:07
example, to imagine something that I sometimes
00:40:11
dream and could become a reality, that’s why
00:40:13
I can only imagine it from an
00:40:15
IV with nurse and I won’t give you goals you’ve
00:40:20
never set for yourself, what would you do
00:40:22
not touch yourself outside the Russian market
00:40:26
damn it, of course,
00:40:28
otherwise it doesn’t make sense and if you don’t
00:40:31
set yourself the most ambitious goals of course I
00:40:34
want to shoot Hollywood stars I want to
00:40:37
shoot Cumberbatch I want to shoot exactly
00:40:40
Atkinson damn, yes, I want to, why not, but
00:40:46
weighing all the pros and cons, but I understand that, well, the
00:40:49
percentage is minimal, but
00:40:52
why not, even if it’s one
00:40:54
percent, reason can happen, so I
00:40:58
think we should generally allow ourselves to
00:41:00
dream so boldly, and we should probably
00:41:03
set goals as grandiose as possible
00:41:06
let's go back to Russian to our
00:41:09
guys before to your competitors
00:41:11
the trees of those you follow Kim you
00:41:14
are inspired by them in fact there are not so
00:41:17
many of them I realized that I am like that horse
00:41:22
that only runs when it sees
00:41:25
another horse nearby, by
00:41:26
itself I am not interested in running
00:41:29
so I I absolutely agree with you that
00:41:31
competitors are the engine of our development
00:41:35
only when you see someone’s
00:41:38
horse’s butt,
00:41:39
walk or hear breathing from behind, only
00:41:42
then do you start running more actively,
00:41:45
I really love giving heads to
00:41:48
I just saw him break it inside and out and
00:41:54
I think that the man has broken himself so much
00:41:59
in this, he has found his strong
00:42:04
side and has multiplied it
00:42:07
and he doesn’t stop, you know, he
00:42:10
just understands that here we are,
00:42:12
crossing paths somewhere in the studio, starting to
00:42:14
talk to him and we just seem to be
00:42:16
some kind of us amateur photographers and we want to
00:42:20
learn something and even tell each other
00:42:22
people I don’t know, I give
00:42:25
master classes, they don’t have such
00:42:27
fire and zeal and the desire to talk so long and a
00:42:31
lot about photography like
00:42:32
we did from the head, well, who just
00:42:34
crossed paths for three seconds at this is not enough for me to
00:42:36
start talking about what technical things
00:42:38
he’s talking about or like Zhuravlev who
00:42:40
can come to me and say that your tripod
00:42:41
for the night is also antediluvian, look mine
00:42:44
maybe like this like this like this and like this
00:42:47
I say yes we’ll give it back very well then I’ll
00:42:49
also tell you about the vacuum cleaner dyson will later
00:42:52
tell you that of course
00:42:54
the BMW was simply better than the Jaguar and so on, that’s why
00:43:00
I really love the heads because it
00:43:03
doesn’t stop and it’s constantly the
00:43:06
worst thing is that you see it all from the inside,
00:43:09
you know how someone to someone then he
00:43:12
smiles
00:43:13
with his eyes and says nasty things, I know perfectly well
00:43:15
that they say that about me too, and
00:43:18
despite this, he’s still a
00:43:20
very good person, so he’s right-wing, I don’t
00:43:23
know, he’s not friendly at all, I don’t know how to wear
00:43:26
caps, he’s just a guru of light, that’s
00:43:30
what he does this is just in general I
00:43:33
look at the picture of me right away like this and
00:43:35
I see 2 tops well that’s just bravo I
00:43:41
really love Vasilchikov he’s special
00:43:45
one so also cinematic characteristic I see
00:43:49
when they give him a story that’s not his,
00:43:53
sometimes it’s clear that he’s interested in what’s
00:43:55
not interesting but where he is,
00:43:58
I don’t know, just like
00:44:01
Dim Zhuravlev’s songs, of course, who else among the young people
00:44:06
probably won’t invite anyone, I can’t stand
00:44:08
everyone, arrogant,
00:44:14
lazy, self-confident,
00:44:20
ill-mannered, some are simply
00:44:23
disgusting, there are prom girls about us being
00:44:26
disgusting, no, I can’t do it myself
00:44:28
aesthetics, that is, I’m just I saw
00:44:30
in someone’s stories how a certain
00:44:34
very famous photographer, by the way, I
00:44:37
have very good shots, just like that, really
00:44:39
good there, cool, but in order to take
00:44:43
some frame, she climbed onto the
00:44:45
assistant’s shoulders, she just knocked it out, but you yourself do
00:44:49
n’t like everything, it seems to me this
00:44:52
device may be just some kind of
00:44:55
youth and I’m already like that, but among them I do
00:44:59
n’t like anime as individuals, but I can
00:45:02
admit that this one has cool photography
00:45:05
here, unfortunately, but I have to
00:45:07
admit, it’s also awesome photography, that
00:45:10
is, they are talented and they are a little
00:45:14
narrow-minded and I forgot to say I
00:45:17
really like Jabiev, here he is, he’s just one
00:45:20
of the young ones who’s really super
00:45:23
strong,
00:45:24
I see that he cares about the light and
00:45:27
I always see when a photographer works with
00:45:29
light and when he doesn’t work with light
00:45:31
at all and he has such a good good
00:45:37
balance between power and some kind of
00:45:41
real photography and even sometimes
00:45:44
some very powerful stories
00:45:45
shoot through him, but again he has his own
00:45:48
specialization, that is, for
00:45:51
example, I haven’t seen a single portrait of him like that,
00:45:54
but
00:45:56
if you remove
00:45:58
a just imagine the situation that
00:46:00
the heads, but all these other guys
00:46:02
that you listed, I’ll say like,
00:46:03
we’re all tied up with photography and you
00:46:06
don’t have cores that are running next to you as you
00:46:10
develop further, what do you really
00:46:11
say very often, names for you are
00:46:14
very like that strong landmarks
00:46:15
but all these landmarks will now go away and
00:46:17
then where will you go first they wo
00:46:20
n’t go anywhere
00:46:22
hypothetically you like to fantasize about
00:46:24
wipes this is zira you know
00:46:28
such a designer john varvatos came
00:46:30
and did a lot of filming with him and it so
00:46:33
happened that I was filming for two days in a row
00:46:35
I’ll cut it alone or yes, I’m not enough of you Jack
00:46:40
and on the second day he came and again me and the
00:46:43
woman who was cinemascope look
00:46:46
look the same girl rock I
00:46:47
got rid of all the other photographers
00:46:50
[laughter]
00:46:56
if they are not in the first place and there are no irreplaceable ones
00:46:59
and they will appear someone and they still
00:47:02
appear, it’s just that it’s really close to me with them, what
00:47:08
they
00:47:11
do is not even my style, we’re not
00:47:13
interested, but what the young
00:47:17
people do, not everything is interesting,
00:47:20
or rather, even this style is,
00:47:24
you know, when the designer made what -it’s a
00:47:25
cult thing and everyone goes and everyone
00:47:29
wears this thing and then the bass is like that
00:47:32
overnight and it became unfashionable and everyone
00:47:35
knows what it is, but it’s from 2016, right
00:47:41
now the photos are exactly the moment
00:47:43
when a very bright
00:47:45
style appeared, but it reflects our time
00:47:48
and in five years we will all know that they
00:47:51
filmed it like this in 2018, and
00:47:56
Lindbergh will be watched as if in
00:47:59
ten years in 20 years, so I am interested
00:48:02
and
00:48:03
interested in those who are trying to capture something
00:48:07
more than just a fashionable picture, well,
00:48:10
that is, the authorship of the kingdom jump
00:48:12
some unusual handwriting it's not very
00:48:16
interesting we have a little time table that I
00:48:18
would really like
00:48:20
to get a taste of your shooting from a super
00:48:23
short question can you just ask
00:48:25
if it's a direct question [ __ ] we won't even
00:48:28
discuss it look European
00:48:36
photography fashion photography glossy
00:48:39
photography a
00:48:40
place where there are major designers and
00:48:44
clothes are created, a style is formed and
00:48:47
big money is earned, and where there is a
00:48:49
market, about the same history of the USA
00:48:52
before it was founded, which was able to appear
00:48:57
Lindbergh and so on, it seems that this is a
00:48:59
rather large machine that can
00:49:02
accept many photographers and the most
00:49:06
important thing is that it’s clear why this is
00:49:08
being done because the industry is big
00:49:09
food and it somehow makes money
00:49:11
and will give the image of the country the market and so on in
00:49:15
Russia the fashion market,
00:49:17
well, I don’t know, probably not, and the
00:49:22
feeling from the
00:49:24
Russian gloss and Russian fashion is that
00:49:28
it is not fueled by the
00:49:33
industry but they are fueled by people who
00:49:36
can do this, quite a
00:49:38
limited limited circle of people
00:49:43
who have the opportunity to do this, have
00:49:46
you tried to analyze whether this is
00:49:48
really the case or are we still moving towards
00:49:50
something more, to the formation of
00:49:51
some kind of market, or is it still like, well,
00:49:55
how I don’t know, such a privilege is shorter for
00:49:59
several people and all in Russia, and is it worth
00:50:03
it for a young photographer to think
00:50:05
that I’ll go into fashion
00:50:07
and there will be more in the future, or still not, but I
00:50:13
analyzed it, and this is probably what
00:50:17
I try to tell most often, for example, to
00:50:20
students at the master’s. classes because
00:50:23
there are whole courses of fashion
00:50:26
photography and so they come there and I
00:50:30
usually when this small group of 12
00:50:32
people I uk
00:50:33
ask everyone why he came, what he
00:50:35
wants to shoot who is his favorite photographer to
00:50:37
understand the audience further to feel and
00:50:40
most often people say what I want to
00:50:44
shoot fashion,
00:50:45
you’re asking a question, do you understand what
00:50:47
fashion fashion is, this fashion is the sale of
00:50:51
clothes over
00:50:52
there in the West, this is already a whole
00:50:55
industry that’s really powerful, but here,
00:50:59
if you want to shoot fashion for a
00:51:01
magazine, then you often depend on, for
00:51:06
example, an advertiser, and that’s who we
00:51:09
shoot cover
00:51:10
but then you bake all these names
00:51:12
that we’ll say but we must have I do
00:51:15
n’t know jewelry such and such
00:51:18
underwear such and such and there clothes such and such
00:51:22
because these brands paid to
00:51:24
be on the cover and sometimes these brands
00:51:28
make not very nice things
00:51:31
after all, everyone knows that cool expensive
00:51:34
clothes really
00:51:35
look better in the picture most often, that’s why we have
00:51:39
fashion, it’s not quite real,
00:51:42
you can’t really compare it with their
00:51:46
history with their approach, and when people
00:51:49
say I want to shoot the same computer
00:51:51
as the heap or is it true I say that you
00:51:53
want it,
00:51:54
our clients don’t have it, we don’t have
00:51:57
anything about it, and there isn’t even anything close to it
00:52:01
with such a powerful concept where they
00:52:04
allow themselves to be
00:52:05
creative, create and captivate people into their
00:52:09
story into their brand, we do
00:52:12
n’t have that the point of all of us is small, let’s say
00:52:16
selling a brand to them is no longer up to
00:52:21
history when you don’t depend on the
00:52:24
audience when you can choose your
00:52:26
audience we are all oriented here she is a
00:52:29
simple girl just like you
00:52:32
she should want to buy it so
00:52:36
it’s
00:52:38
a little bit of a game 2 fashion industry
00:52:41
which does not exist and everyone is very
00:52:44
disappointed when they come to study
00:52:46
fashion photography they think that I will photograph some
00:52:49
company and it will be so cool but it won’t
00:52:53
be because we haven’t grown up with a client yet
00:52:55
and even if we remove fashion photography
00:52:58
advertising the same Our biggest failure is that we
00:53:03
don’t have cool advertising that
00:53:06
could be classified as art, but in
00:53:08
the West, for example, there are such shootings and
00:53:10
such videos, there are Cannes Lions, we
00:53:14
will have all this for a very, very long time to
00:53:17
develop, that is, before they all need us
00:53:22
and they you yourself must, about the client,
00:53:24
grow to such a level, that’s all, I
00:53:29
understand correctly that well, that is, it all
00:53:31
sounds a little sad, that is, you
00:53:33
do cool things, you communicate with
00:53:37
cool people, you work with cool
00:53:39
people and buildings, and all this
00:53:41
is actually some kind of... then with such a
00:53:43
game, how do you escape from this,
00:53:47
that is, your personal projects,
00:53:50
this is part of salvation, the end is about to come,
00:53:53
creative shooting is about this, we’ll
00:53:57
talk about this, we’ve just done some shooting,
00:53:59
then tell us how you came up with this idea,
00:54:01
how I’ll tell you, and here the story begins
00:54:07
with different sides, on the one hand, I came
00:54:12
to a nickname with some kind of dead ends, it was
00:54:15
precisely in photographic terms that I needed to learn something
00:54:18
new,
00:54:19
to learn to feel, and we studied law
00:54:24
together with Sergei Romanova, you can
00:54:25
draw on photographs for many years,
00:54:27
I turned to him, I went
00:54:29
just to study this process, I
00:54:33
’ll say right away that I’m an absolute beginner and it’s
00:54:38
very difficult to cope with all this on my own without laboratories,
00:54:40
but here, of course, Seryozhe
00:54:42
helped me in terms of the fact that there was no studio,
00:54:45
chemistry laboratory, and so on, but I
00:54:50
began to study the process of shooting something on
00:54:53
glass how it happens there in general
00:54:57
and everything is geared specifically to the technique and
00:55:00
then absolute magic happens there, the
00:55:02
magic is precisely that the process is
00:55:04
unpredictable you don’t know how
00:55:06
the deck will be poured you don’t know kept it
00:55:10
there for a split second longer the developer
00:55:12
some kind of spot appeared there and it
00:55:14
cool or she ruined everything, that is,
00:55:17
technically it is very complex and subtle, but
00:55:21
at the same time the process itself
00:55:23
captivates and fascinates you so much and you are ready to
00:55:25
come to terms with the fact that all your generally
00:55:27
acquired photographic skills are
00:55:30
no longer needed, that is, they are needed when
00:55:32
you have mastered this technique
00:55:34
second story this is my friend stylist
00:55:39
Ksenia Dorkina who is interested in
00:55:41
all sorts of mystical themes this is her idea
00:55:44
to do a photo shoot in passport style this is the
00:55:48
nineteenth century there was such a tradition
00:55:50
when someone in the family died it was necessary to
00:55:53
capture this person or even better to
00:55:56
take a photo with him and
00:56:00
sometimes they they even did something where
00:56:02
they drew eyes with their eyes closed, but this is still in
00:56:05
general with ancient Egypt, it’s all
00:56:09
such a multi-layered tradition that goes back there,
00:56:14
and when she told me, I
00:56:18
realized that it would be cool to do it in a
00:56:22
real way, it would really
00:56:24
pay off because it was
00:56:26
done back then daguerreotype then you
00:56:28
go through this gimbal this gimbal camera,
00:56:35
moreover, this shooting was shot on my
00:56:39
gimbal I myself, I bought a gimbal for the world
00:56:42
thanks to Seryozha and I have it, it’s from
00:56:47
the beginning of the twentieth century, Japanese in
00:56:49
perfect condition, it just
00:56:51
folds into something like this and
00:56:54
even unfolds there there is a magnesium flash, I don’t know
00:56:57
how it’s possible to use it, well, in general, it’s
00:56:59
some kind of
00:57:00
just a treasure,
00:57:03
and the story was to imitate
00:57:08
with the help of technology, with the help of drawn
00:57:11
eyes, with the help of very simple poses, the
00:57:15
feeling of that photograph, but at the same time
00:57:18
dress people in modern clothes.
00:57:20
collection,
00:57:22
that is, we were counting on the fact that we
00:57:24
would do a creative shoot and, as usual, I
00:57:28
do with creative shoots,
00:57:30
we went, well, we’ll send it to some
00:57:33
foreign children, but
00:57:36
someone will take the digital magazine for them, of course,
00:57:39
for free and just publish this
00:57:42
shoot not no one took it, we simply offered it to
00:57:45
everyone who was possible, despite the fact
00:57:48
that at that time there was a current
00:57:50
collection that was fresh, this is always
00:57:52
of interest to everyone, that is, it was a brand new
00:57:54
season fin de produto there is a trestle there, but
00:58:00
no one liked it and this shooting lay around,
00:58:03
it turns out that it’s practically
00:58:05
I was filming for two years in May 2018, it’s a
00:58:10
very interesting process, it’s very funny
00:58:13
that people are in the frame, well, probably
00:58:19
more and more than 10 seconds, that is, it’s
00:58:25
such magic, you just take off the cap
00:58:27
and count 10 seconds and people shouldn’t
00:58:30
move, then you put the cap on and
00:58:32
that’s what happens in these 10 seconds,
00:58:34
it is not clear here the experience and and I have developed for
00:58:38
this nadushka here seconds up to 100
00:58:40
lumens and due to the fact that little light falls
00:58:42
it yes yes yes yes yes and I have developed such a
00:58:48
technology that I no unlike
00:58:51
our usual process I I didn’t look
00:58:53
at the models, that is, you initially
00:58:55
put them out, and then when I took off the lid, I do
00:58:58
n’t look at the models so as not to knock them down,
00:59:01
as if to not breathe, not to blink, although even
00:59:04
if they blink, it won’t be visible
00:59:06
because it’s just something that
00:59:09
appears before everyone’s eyes and that’s all, and
00:59:11
it’s very funny, it’s some new
00:59:13
sensations
00:59:14
and it’s really cool and I want to continue
00:59:18
doing something like this, but it’s
00:59:21
extremely
00:59:22
inapplicable in any way in silence and gloss,
00:59:27
such a narrow focus,
00:59:30
why discuss another shoot, a very not
00:59:32
very interesting shoot with Dima Ignatov
00:59:37
for which, as I understand it, you
00:59:41
got a little feminist, this whole
00:59:43
story I’m very interested in, first of all,
00:59:44
why you asked how the shooting seems to me
00:59:50
to stand out conceptually in your portfolio, I don’t know
00:59:56
why, how could it be stylistic,
00:59:58
maybe just from the introduction of some
01:00:01
kind the story of the training,
01:00:04
which was unusual for you, as it seems to me,
01:00:06
I’ll tell you again in general, this shooting is
01:00:08
very interesting, and firstly, I just
01:00:13
really love Dima Ignatov and I wanted to
01:00:16
do some kind of shooting especially for him
01:00:18
until this moment, not a lot of you twice once on
01:00:20
my personal a large project
01:00:24
where there are a lot of people, it was filmed for the second time by the
01:00:28
memory of generations for the entrance,
01:00:30
but here I just wanted to
01:00:34
come up with something for the story and we met in a
01:00:40
cafe with my team,
01:00:43
makeup artist Min Zubareva and a stylist for the village of
01:00:47
Shirokino, the one who just came up with
01:00:49
the post in March and started sketching out
01:00:51
some ideas and one thing clung to another,
01:00:56
it resulted in some kind of story about a
01:01:00
guy who caught a mermaid, did
01:01:03
she fall in love with him, did he fall in love with her,
01:01:06
then who is she really
01:01:10
because we have the final frame where
01:01:12
Dima is standing and he has an there's a
01:01:14
fish's tail sticking out of his mouth and we put exactly that in there
01:01:17
that I just got tired of and he ate it
01:01:21
seemed cool to me and plus Dime said
01:01:25
to Dime,
01:01:26
well, let's just do it naked with him, he'll
01:01:28
add this is a personal project, I
01:01:30
personally came up with a special idea for the lift
01:01:32
why why did he get it
01:01:39
does the last dime they
01:01:41
wrote to him some comments we
01:01:43
thought you were a Paralympian and therefore a
01:01:45
misogynist, what is it just
01:01:48
because he was holding her by the hair in one
01:01:50
shot, but it seemed to us that it was
01:01:53
very logical that if you caught a mermaid
01:01:55
but it would be but for something her husband in
01:01:57
the lead, they went there and pulled him out by the voice and
01:02:00
probably this is some kind of my personal approach that is
01:02:03
absolutely normal for me at the door
01:02:09
understands that I don’t believe at all not a
01:02:11
feminist and it seems to me that this is
01:02:13
some kind of very cool story about a
01:02:17
guy who caught a mermaid and It did
01:02:20
n’t work out for them in any case, I did
01:02:24
n’t want to humiliate anyone there and about the fact
01:02:28
that the female part is not the female part, it’s
01:02:30
some kind of mythical character, Dima was not
01:02:32
interesting and to show him like this, let’s
01:02:35
say even as a villain because he’s
01:02:38
terribly positive in himself
01:02:40
you just need to talk to him for two
01:02:42
minutes and that’s all, plus this is his one
01:02:47
leg,
01:02:48
for me this man’s energy is
01:02:51
simply stunning and this is the
01:02:54
fact that he doesn’t have a leg, I
01:02:56
actually don’t notice this as such a
01:03:00
given this is like his the uniqueness of Stolle,
01:03:03
although he does a lot of projects and
01:03:07
fights for us to
01:03:10
treat people with
01:03:11
disabilities normally, I photographed such guys without
01:03:14
legs without legs without arms and the coolest thing is
01:03:18
how when you treat them as
01:03:22
ordinary people, so I wanted to
01:03:24
make he’s just such a
01:03:27
brutal sexy villain who
01:03:31
caught a mermaid, plus I wanted to
01:03:34
make something like this a little bit like a set, that
01:03:37
is, not literally there are seas, something else, but some
01:03:40
kind of studio
01:03:42
let them put on a TV performance and
01:03:46
probably a signal question because
01:03:50
it doesn’t matter why look, you’re filming
01:03:54
these projects, you’re working with you, and so
01:03:56
on, but in reality you can
01:03:58
order a private shoot, just
01:03:59
now some girl will write to you on Instagram,
01:04:01
madam, I really want
01:04:04
to film with you, how real is it,
01:04:07
how can it look like.
01:04:10
under what conditions will you agree to this
01:04:13
story and how much does it cost
01:04:14
exactly private shooting
01:04:18
they write all the time yes of course you can I
01:04:22
send it to my manager who
01:04:25
voices a certain set my fee
01:04:30
average studio equipment if studio
01:04:35
makeup artist-stylist retouching clear set everything
01:04:42
is broken down by cost
01:04:44
such shootings happen but it’s extremely rare
01:04:47
because rarely anyone can
01:04:51
afford this and how much does it cost the whole
01:04:54
complex
01:04:55
well because you can tell me then and
01:04:58
then that I have a friend who really
01:04:59
wants to shoot for the flu where can I find a
01:05:01
great photographer and I’m like this republica I
01:05:04
need to use it
01:05:06
doesn’t work so let me
01:05:09
tell you the story that I had a project
01:05:12
Smith facility where they sold this shoot
01:05:16
in this light I was a stylist Masha
01:05:20
Kolosova and I was a makeup artist bobbi brown that
01:05:24
is, you could just buy this shoot
01:05:28
all the money went to a fund to fight a
01:05:31
certain disease
01:05:34
there is some nuances after which I
01:05:37
probably don’t really want to participate in
01:05:39
such stories, but there was a certain auction
01:05:42
that lasted a week, in the end this set
01:05:45
was bought by a certain girl for
01:05:48
190,000 rubles, I can say that in ordinary
01:05:55
life for that kind of money you can’t
01:05:57
get me and the whole team, this is not
01:06:00
enough but not very ok, but you
01:06:03
can, it’s very important, let’s just
01:06:05
try with everyone, too, little by little,
01:06:07
he talks about money because it’s wildly
01:06:08
interesting for viewers, you can at least
01:06:10
roughly say in general what is
01:06:13
happening in the gloss industry now in terms of
01:06:14
fees, bush by year, success, how much is
01:06:18
successful and glossy photographer
01:06:19
for photography, on average, don’t tell me
01:06:22
about what specific ones the wife is now,
01:06:24
in general, the average fee for shooting and for
01:06:26
the cover is that you just need to understand that
01:06:31
if you shoot for magazines,
01:06:34
you don’t earn very much money,
01:06:37
not very much at all, if we
01:06:39
compare with advertising from one very
01:06:43
famous publishing house, which
01:06:45
means a magazine page costs 57
01:06:50
thousand rubles, you may be paid for retouching,
01:06:54
they may not pay you, they may pay for
01:06:56
an assistant, they may not pay for the
01:06:58
studio equipment, everyone pays, that
01:07:01
is, there is even less money than before
01:07:04
5000, this was a million years ago, I
01:07:08
won’t name they are detailed prohibited ru1 the
01:07:13
closet was once in dollars, yes, I even
01:07:15
remember that I actually received it in dollars, for
01:07:18
example, a weekly one for a
01:07:21
story of 8 pictures
01:07:24
without a cover costs 20,000 rubles with a
01:07:27
cover 30,000 rubles
01:07:29
another weekly, the same exact
01:07:32
shooting will cost a little more about
01:07:33
fifty dollars individually, everything is very
01:07:38
individual, you need to work a lot
01:07:39
to earn normal money, and
01:07:41
you need to understand that some magazines
01:07:43
may not pay you for a year, you will be
01:07:47
knocked out, and you have already paid your
01:07:49
assistant, you have already paid for retouching and
01:07:52
but what is good about the work, why, for
01:07:56
example, the weekly My many
01:07:58
photographers
01:08:01
didn’t work for a very long time because it was considered not
01:08:03
prestigious and the weekly magazine, by the way, this is
01:08:07
probably a small piece of my success and I
01:08:09
never refused because it
01:08:11
was an opportunity to work with some
01:08:14
cool heroes, that is, I was not interested
01:08:17
in the fee, I was not interested in the format of the
01:08:19
magazine that it was a weekly magazine, that good
01:08:21
swear it’s worth that the shooting would look
01:08:23
just terrible, nothing interested
01:08:26
me, I wanted to shoot
01:08:28
some interesting characters, so I
01:08:31
always agreed,
01:08:32
and now, for example, this
01:08:34
weekly magazine is sometimes laid out and looks
01:08:39
cooler than some serious glossy magazine,
01:08:42
so everyone is growing, everyone is
01:08:45
developing and now they’re
01:08:46
filming everything for this weekly magazine, that’s cool, I
01:08:54
think it’s time to end this, thank you to
01:08:56
myself, a small, very cool, apple, I
01:09:03
actually wanted to point out one
01:09:05
feature because I think none
01:09:08
of us had any idea in what
01:09:10
way the interview would go because the questions are
01:09:13
all different and some are quite
01:09:20
straightforward,
01:09:22
like yes, which many people
01:09:25
may not answer, but just a huge
01:09:29
respect for
01:09:31
Olya’s sincerity because very cool stories and
01:09:34
very cool information that is super
01:09:37
interesting is that you talk about it,
01:09:39
talk about it and do it so
01:09:41
honestly just beyond all praise
01:09:44
thank you very much I liked it thank you
01:09:48
cheers guys thank you really so people do
01:09:54
n’t hold women by the hair otherwise you will be
01:09:57
pecked this is the final thought and listen to the
01:10:01
cool guys us and Olya all bye
01:10:11
bye yes I just wanted to say that I haven’t
01:10:15
gone to heaven under this comment about
01:10:18
hair I wrote down what I like
01:10:22
when someone holds you to a conclusion and you
01:10:24
try
01:10:25
it

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