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described the situation in Russia as00:00:06
pre-revolutionary windows, what00:00:08
you feel in the air is the spirit of revolution,00:00:11
please tell me what your00:00:15
view is based on, what this assumption is based on,00:00:19
yeah, the empire is00:00:22
bathing youth 1 point00:00:27
of war for such an imp and is very dangerous00:00:32
symptomatic characteristic but dangerous00:00:36
because if it is not small and00:00:38
victorious, but for Russians now it is00:00:41
no longer victorious and it will be terrible, it00:00:45
will be small more and more days among the people,00:00:48
discontent is growing00:00:51
and the people's lives are falling. it is00:00:56
not00:00:59
reflected, the people stop trusting the00:01:02
power, the people are tired of receiving00:01:05
funerals for the00:01:07
people 100 white devils in the end00:01:09
all these hordes of roses army riot police positions00:01:14
and so on and so on and00:01:18
dissatisfied people and are ready to demolish something,00:01:21
everyone understands while the states have the power to00:01:24
kill everyone with batons and00:01:26
transplant their heads and suppress this if there is an00:01:29
opportunity to suppress the revolution, it will be00:01:31
similar, but since,00:01:34
in principle, and from this war in Russia,00:01:38
no one wins, no one00:01:43
gets anything, everyone just gets poor, someone gets00:01:47
killed, this whole situation has worsened, and00:01:50
so on and so forth if no one00:01:53
needs it mass extermination occurs,00:01:55
change the situation so that it stops getting00:01:58
worse, and here the slightest00:02:01
progress, that is, someone on the rocks, someone00:02:04
at the top died, and so on and so forth00:02:07
are fraught with mass popular00:02:09
pleasures because the main thing is00:02:11
at the top, a struggle for power begins, everyone00:02:14
rises one step higher and00:02:18
here the thoughts of the comrades00:02:21
at the top arise, they took on behalf of the00:02:24
masses their discontent, lead this00:02:27
discontent and how they stood at the head of00:02:29
such a coup, explain that this is what00:02:32
democracy will be like, now everyone will be00:02:34
fine, we will open prisons, we will give everyone a00:02:38
lot of bread and butter everyone didn’t sleep with you but00:02:41
with the Almighty, but then everything will be again, that00:02:43
is, as long as the country in its current00:02:47
situation, Russia, in general, has nothing to00:02:49
stand on except for the propaganda of the security00:02:52
forces, and there are no real00:02:55
reasons00:02:56
to love this, that’s all here, but00:03:00
he told me on bayonets Napoleon will sit for a long time I wo00:03:03
n’t take Mikhailov we will understand we00:03:07
agree with you about the fact that00:03:08
discontent is growing how in your opinion can it be00:03:11
realized if not then some, well, that00:03:14
is, they are trying to behead the protest00:03:16
Alexei Navalny is in prison, many00:03:17
political figures would have been forced to00:03:19
leave or are now finding themselves in the pre-trial detention center, that00:03:22
is, in fact, the authorities are trying00:03:23
to decapitate the protest, the screws are tightened and00:03:26
many people are afraid to go out into the streets,00:03:29
express their position, how00:03:31
in your opinion will these changes happen00:03:34
when the boiling point is passed there and00:03:37
people take to the streets Tiraspol and I understand the00:03:39
speech about the street protest is true no there is no00:03:43
viewer, we can talk about00:03:47
the year when tsarism began to be liked by everyone,00:03:52
when it never enjoyed support00:03:54
at any levels, that is, in front of the00:03:59
military elite, not in the government, not in the00:04:02
Duma, the tsar was no longer a husband to anyone,00:04:04
so he was forced to abdicate, the top00:04:07
government, front commanders, and00:04:10
then it went further more, that is,00:04:13
people immediately began who would like to00:04:16
be leaders, disputes immediately began,00:04:18
the situation was shaking and then they came to00:04:21
survive in the ninety-first year, look00:04:24
how firmly the Soviet Union seemed to stand,00:04:26
but those who stood to the top understood that the00:04:30
first thing, well, the economy is working in the minus, the00:04:33
country in general has nothing eat because the00:04:36
second half of the 80s, in general, there was a00:04:40
total deficit, something had to be00:04:43
done and how do you change it firstly,00:04:45
secondly, the ski ears were in a ripening00:04:47
mood, it would be nice to privatize everything, the00:04:50
children would own it on full grounds,00:04:53
then pass it on to their children, and so on then00:04:56
these two moments as a result00:04:59
shook the situation and then00:05:02
it started to get out of control,00:05:04
although unfortunately it wasn’t really out of control, in the00:05:07
same way now there are people00:05:10
who clearly see that this can’t continue like this00:05:13
because the country is getting poorer the economy00:05:16
has turned into hell a few more00:05:19
months and there will be nothing to eat, and so on and so00:05:22
forth, dissatisfaction will00:05:24
increase, which means we need to change course. In00:05:27
this change of course, there will inevitably be00:05:30
several groupings because some00:05:33
will think that the screws need to be tightened00:05:35
more tightly, and others will think00:05:37
that on the contrary, democratization will00:05:40
inevitably happen. will fight with each other and those00:05:43
who for democratization00:05:45
will inevitably turn to the masses, you know, unfortunately, I do00:05:48
n’t know where they train to become00:05:51
political strategists, I don’t know where they train to become00:05:53
political analysts, but I don’t know00:05:56
a magazine at all and become which would00:05:58
imagine the political mechanics of00:06:02
transition geldof political mechanics of00:06:05
cataclysms, well, excuse me arena in00:06:08
politics, people of Andrey Larionova’s class00:06:11
are just exceptions confirming the00:06:14
general rules,00:06:16
that’s what I think about this,00:06:19
please tell me Mikhailovich, you also00:06:23
presented another scenario and when00:06:26
the voice of00:06:28
the opposition will not be heard, when there will be no leaders,00:06:31
when everything will be as it is, I don’t know,00:06:36
but also slide into some kind of darkness of00:06:38
the Middle Ages, that’s how likely00:06:41
this scenario is and in general00:06:44
please tell me more generally how00:06:46
to characterize this period of history the00:06:49
Soviet Union the empire continues to00:06:51
fall apart and maybe Russia00:06:54
will fall apart just like the00:06:57
Soviet Union fell apart further and should we expect00:07:01
something00:07:03
different on the contrary? education in Russia of the new era00:07:07
cultural Russia polite who00:07:10
respect the borders of other countries what can we00:07:13
expect next it’s00:07:15
a pity you can just south and00:07:20
told that00:07:22
there is a cooler option you’re not a guy forced to00:07:26
empty00:07:28
heard it’s clear where to tighten there is an00:07:31
option of liberalization because from00:07:34
tightening nuts or oil cars00:07:37
start other things there are no more00:07:41
groups of those who, so to speak, wind up00:07:44
the buzz and those who then conize the00:07:47
inevitability while those twisting00:07:51
have the strength of the pain resource so for00:07:54
democratization if by force or not00:07:57
the act lays out the opinion I have no idea00:08:00
about me there is no insider I have no00:08:02
friends in the government work is equal to the FSB00:08:05
and so on, but with a greater00:08:08
probability it is this group that00:08:10
can turn to the people and encourage and00:08:14
organize popular uprisings with the00:08:17
goal of raising this wave, riding this wave00:08:21
and then riding this wave to00:08:24
come to power and then, as usual,00:08:27
forcing the people to their very best.00:08:30
heel and and all the power to do some of00:08:33
their own things and then it will begin right00:08:36
because some elected democrats and the00:08:39
third was repainted and the fourth was00:08:41
more careerists mail, well, the usual00:08:44
period of political cataclysms, what00:08:47
will happen here, who knew what would happen in October00:08:51
1917, I’m damned nothing I didn’t know00:08:54
maite, another thing is that the Bolsheviks would be00:08:56
people absolutely untied, stubborn, ready to00:08:59
go to the end without hesitation by any00:09:04
means, so here in the city, fortune-telling on the00:09:07
coffee grounds actually makes00:09:10
no sense because it takes so long to00:09:13
understand the elementary00:09:16
political laws of the period of cataclysms00:09:19
I repeat everything else, then the grandmothers are00:09:22
judging by light bulbs that our knight is better than00:09:25
theirs, the king of the battle, or it may be similar00:09:27
in the end to great regret, apparently00:09:31
Russia will break up into several parts and00:09:33
well, because today this is the natural00:09:37
course of things and the00:09:38
territory has ceased to be a resource and as00:09:43
for various useful00:09:45
fossil natural resources for this, a00:09:48
large territory is not needed that00:09:50
takes possession of these resources dreams of00:09:53
detaching and the territories are generally ballast00:09:56
which needs to be fed for unknown reasons,00:09:59
that is, imagine Western00:10:01
Siberia and we don’t eat oil and gas and00:10:05
so on they need to feed all this00:10:07
black soil not black soil and such nonsense,00:10:11
20 million people they will fly to00:10:14
these resources that oh yes, well, what kind of00:10:16
moods are inevitable its time of dew00:10:19
Eduard Rossel wanted to make the Ural00:10:22
republics and such a fun feast then almost the00:10:24
collapse of this one knows that the Far East00:10:27
will prolong it, that is, this is00:10:30
completely known to anyone before it has been00:10:33
mastered in a spontaneous manner for many years, you can00:10:36
only trace these trends00:10:38
because I told me it was decided that nothing is up to you,00:10:42
and all this talk about the fact that there was00:10:44
even a hot blossoming of00:10:47
art under the supervision of quarterly00:10:49
officers, it’s already been a year and a half since00:10:51
now00:10:54
I wrote from those nothing has changed yet,00:10:58
we see that 85 there is no war,00:11:01
covered there is a live broadcast, we are talking to00:11:03
people who are eyewitnesses, participants in all00:11:06
this happening, I want to00:11:08
ask you how, in your opinion, Vladimir00:11:10
Putin can and can and generally00:11:13
somehow get out of this situation00:11:15
what routes of retreat are left00:11:19
for Putin to macron says to save00:11:22
face I’ll probably name it just so00:11:23
that how Putin can retreat in order00:11:26
to generally continue to00:11:27
exist00:11:28
what other options does he have options00:11:32
I’m competent this year I’m not I00:11:35
just want your opinion to hear as a person00:11:37
who observes everything that is happening and00:11:40
seems to have an opinion, I think no00:11:44
one here can say anything00:11:48
original and except maybe, well, a00:11:52
few people from00:11:53
Putin’s inner circle, and I don’t know about any of00:11:56
them and who walks there and fork him and00:11:59
autumn, numerous confidants and the00:12:02
best, what would of course be done now is00:12:05
I think that he does not have such thoughts, he does00:12:09
not agree with her similar opinion,00:12:11
how long will he come to say it is difficult to00:12:14
count on the fact that one day he will not00:12:16
wake up, it is also necessary because00:12:19
those who he knows, we are somewhere there high00:12:21
above us, God believes in him and doesn’t00:12:24
believe in him, but only he knows how long I’ve been00:12:27
living, it’s like this to see, that is, the situation is00:12:30
completely public, I, since he is a00:12:33
man, it’s extremely painful00:12:36
to go to the most rational button accordion, amen,00:12:40
conditionally step back on the line On February 23, I don’t00:12:45
say there, after all, from all over the Donbass and00:12:47
leave the cream to reach the line on February 2000:12:51
and after that start negotiations quietly00:12:55
calmly there is an ass for him, this means,00:12:57
yes, at the very end of his career, losing face00:13:00
from quarrels and questions and so on when he doesn’t00:13:03
wants to consider this, everything that00:13:06
can now be done, the army is burying itself in00:13:09
the ground,00:13:11
various practical work will begin to strengthen the defense,00:13:14
and so on and so on, well, in general, this is00:13:17
- indefinitely, dollars, that is, if00:13:21
Russia threatens with nuclear strikes,00:13:24
various aggravations of all the Western00:13:28
leaders are rotten, with the exception of00:13:30
Boris Johnson, all of you, all of these guys00:13:33
are complete trash, petty, corrupt,00:13:36
insignificant people who are only interested in00:13:38
their elections with their chairs and and00:13:41
absolute I feel it and you don’t00:13:43
know it well from the parks and00:13:46
others a long time ago, this is the most00:13:50
likely option that the Russian army00:13:52
seems to be completely not where it stands, it will00:13:55
stand there for now and watch, what will not00:14:00
change is not Ukraine, but you are making00:14:04
peace,00:14:05
we are about to stop putting on weapons, what00:14:08
else could it be, it will come to the conclusion that it is necessary to00:14:12
somehow shorten Russian ambitions, we00:14:14
cannot know this now because00:14:17
there are a lot of springs, there are frostbitten00:14:19
leftists in Europe, this is very often wandering around00:14:22
who want to build a global00:14:23
socialist,00:14:26
to put it in Russian, a hundred, or00:14:31
maybe on the contrary, the power will be00:14:33
taken more by the right force, who say that00:14:36
enough of all this nonsense is enough,00:14:38
the state is the state, these are the people, and that’s00:14:40
enough of all this here you sit and you00:14:43
understand with migrants with rainbow flags the00:14:46
destruction of the sovereignty of states,00:14:48
we don’t know today whose will take it without knowing00:14:51
because normal people and the00:14:53
Lebanese movements and00:14:55
deadly news today I can and the00:14:59
government today with the leftists is an00:15:01
emergency at the bottom to predict00:15:04
this situation to do a huge job00:15:08
take into account a lot of factors in order to00:15:10
propose something, I now00:15:13
of course,00:15:14
but nevertheless you probably can, we are00:15:18
talking about the fate of the country of the empire of00:15:21
politicians and it is simpler from the fate of an ordinary00:15:25
person living in Russia in00:15:27
some Ivanovo region, let’s say00:15:30
what should he do now when he sees00:15:33
where Russia is heading, he doesn’t understand for days00:15:37
that he will just see the dollar exchange rate there,00:15:40
he sees that he doesn’t like the fact that there is a00:15:43
war in general, that00:15:45
zinc coffins are coming to his region, what should he00:15:49
do in general in this whole situation,00:15:51
hide and do nothing, I don’t know00:15:54
try to survive leave run to the00:15:57
exchanger there is some practical00:15:59
advice00:16:00
means the first one he has no doulas00:16:05
role so he is not interested in neither00:16:08
the exchanger nor the dollar exchange rate because he is busy00:16:14
looking for a job he needs the day00:16:17
he needs work to feed his families00:16:21
then he lacks his own00:16:25
analytical and critical thinking is00:16:27
absent in at least 97 percent of the population, at least00:16:31
97 percent of the population is at least00:16:34
not able to independently00:16:37
understand the environment00:16:39
in general, she operates on the topic with opinions, an00:16:43
aborigine put into her head an example of the most00:16:47
blatant00:16:48
akasha to make president trump Putin00:16:51
sat quietly like a mouse of envious people and was00:16:54
everyone quietly drink that the00:16:56
Russian-Ukrainian border has been established can you00:16:58
sell the kayak man, will you sell it so much who there00:17:01
samples to put oil they have added00:17:04
this whole story has begun buy I’ll wait for00:17:07
more than a month to sign Ivanov they lay down for00:17:10
and with the signing it is still unknown when from00:17:12
where the kayak will go will not allow more to be00:17:15
transferred with him green planes of Ukraine00:17:18
and yet, as it were, leaders of00:17:20
public opinion and on this00:17:21
journalists of Ukraine are sure that00:17:24
Biden is a good trump dick if00:17:27
these people have no brains what do you want from a00:17:30
simple Russian person from the Ivanovo00:17:33
region he believes in TV he believes00:17:36
that they live in Ukraine Nazis and fascists, he00:17:40
believes that Putin is defending Russia,00:17:44
which Ukraine wanted to attack,00:17:46
pumped up to the utmost with weapons by the evil00:17:49
West, which hates Russia, he00:17:52
adheres to the official opinion, he00:17:55
listens, he left,00:17:58
and so on and so forth, something like this,00:18:03
he always has00:18:06
this question of what will happen00:18:09
it’s spinning as fast as it can, that’s all, but the question is00:18:13
rather some kind of00:18:16
journalistic00:18:19
and psychological questions, Sirius,00:18:22
well, even understand along the way, he said to00:18:27
someone, well, according to your logic, then everyone00:18:31
should do nothing, because00:18:34
history itself will throw us onto some00:18:36
shores and everything will be decided on its own without the participation of00:18:40
anyone, but it turns out that no one at all,00:18:43
everyone should sit down and relax and I don’t00:18:46
know, pick up a pipe and smoke, and it’s00:18:48
difficult for you and me to talk if you00:18:51
draw such conclusions from my servants, you00:18:54
asked me about a simple person from the00:18:57
Ivanovo region, a simple person from the00:19:00
Ivanovo region, everyone still doesn’t00:19:04
limit people in any way, you didn’t ask00:19:08
me St. Petersburg, the intelligentsia, you didn’t00:19:11
ask me about scientific personnel, you didn’t00:19:14
ask me, spoons fell, and young people who don’t00:19:16
watch TV at all, but00:19:19
live on the Internet, live on social00:19:21
networks, you asked me about this person I00:19:24
answered you this way he feels this way I00:19:27
behave I didn’t say that he should00:19:30
behave this way I didn’t say that I gave00:19:32
them everything wrong I said he behaves that’s00:19:37
my answer and now please00:19:38
formulate my question because if00:19:41
you say everything you should have00:19:43
said so, but I didn’t say that, I’m glad00:19:47
to answer your question that what is00:19:49
not a question now is what you interpreted in this way,00:19:52
we typed let’s00:19:54
try to ask00:19:56
the question of what to do to the three percent who are not00:20:00
devoid of a political analytical00:20:03
mind, who evaluate00:20:07
the situation that is now a lot what really00:20:09
happens is that they are doing00:20:12
great, some of them, you00:20:16
know, and some of them, through Armenia and00:20:20
through Finland, somehow managed to00:20:23
go to Germany, someone00:20:26
went to Israel, and so on, um, now00:20:29
we have enough point because it’s00:20:33
not that there is martial law in the Russian country,00:20:35
but in general and when00:20:38
it means and they can be punished for00:20:42
speaking disapprovingly and for00:20:44
whatever reason my Russian or00:20:47
today he00:20:50
needs to live today only to think only to00:20:53
think about what they are the top three percent00:20:58
who consider themselves the intelligentsia, the salt of the00:21:01
earth,00:21:02
intellectuals, what are they talking about the mug00:21:05
Oles is like the last idiot and that the00:21:09
security officers and thieves and liars took power again, and so on and00:21:14
so forth, what was done00:21:17
wrong, let's go, we need to do now read00:21:21
think remember and smart people get smarter00:21:26
because they are also new,00:21:27
this is psycho, you see three who are up, they00:21:29
now don’t understand what Gaidar was00:21:32
and what Chubais is, they don’t00:21:35
understand now that the privatization that took place00:21:38
in the early 90s in the privatization was00:21:42
laid down by the parent gangster00:21:44
state, which inevitably took over you,00:21:48
relatively speaking empire, everything was laid down00:21:50
in 90 second ninety-third,00:21:54
this can be understood now, the shadow00:21:58
of them who can understand something00:22:00
must convince their relatively speaking00:22:04
comrades in corporations and the smart percent00:22:08
so that they understand good luck to us that power00:22:11
must be replaced at any cost that00:22:14
no restrictions on freedom of the press are acceptable,00:22:18
that lustration is mandatory, that people00:22:21
who are guilty of the regime of red00:22:24
fascism must necessarily sit in prison, and so00:22:27
on and so forth, that is,00:22:29
they must mature in order to be00:22:32
mentally00:22:34
competent and socially ready for00:22:36
some action00:22:37
when the tower begins to collapse and the towers00:22:41
it always collapses a little earlier or a little00:22:44
later,00:22:45
then you need to stop00:22:48
putting the VAT on you again, but they want to take power00:22:51
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