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good morning to all of you who see us00:00:07
and all of you who are accompanying us we00:00:09
start with the second session of this00:00:12
group of presentations we have with us00:00:15
fernando peñín fernando works in the00:00:18
part of the madrid city council that00:00:20
involves citizen participation and he is going to00:00:22
tell us a very interesting project on00:00:23
how to use georeferencing to00:00:26
make that participation more pleasant00:00:28
for the city fernando when00:00:31
you consider hello good morning00:00:34
josé maría fernando peñil told us head00:00:36
of the technological coordination service00:00:38
of participatory and well we are00:00:42
increasingly introducing00:00:43
georeferencing in00:00:45
citizen participation and I'm going to tell you about the00:00:47
initiatives we're00:00:48
working on this year,00:00:52
so share the screen now00:00:57
for a brief introduction to00:00:59
citizen participation, which consists of00:01:02
actively involving00:01:03
citizens in00:01:05
decision-making processes. publics that00:01:07
have an impact on their lives,00:01:09
good progress, no, don't worry, I'm00:01:11
only going to read two positive ones, the00:01:12
rest are going to be all images of what I00:01:13
promise,00:01:15
back to the topic, the Madrid city council - it00:01:16
enables00:01:18
digital citizen participation, which is the center of00:01:20
our activity through the web portal00:01:22
decides madrid00:01:23
decides madrid allows to propose to support00:01:26
create proposals and decide how00:01:28
the city council budget is spent00:01:30
all citizens can participate00:01:31
by proposing issues proposing00:01:34
projects in a general way there is an area00:01:37
for debates and00:01:38
participatory budgets projects are proposed00:01:40
for the that there is money available and00:01:43
a link, an obligation of the00:01:44
city council in reception in those00:01:46
projects, those that are valid to a00:01:48
certain extent, those that are most supported are00:01:51
executed with a00:01:52
city council budget of 50 million euros,00:01:54
this call in this process of00:01:57
citizen participation What00:01:59
we see is evident is that the00:02:00
citizen is interested in what affects him,00:02:01
that is, what is about your house, your address,00:02:04
your workplace, in00:02:06
the areas where you move, for00:02:08
example, in Moncloa, I work in Cibeles,00:02:10
because I am really interested. what00:02:12
affects me because of my home because it is where I00:02:13
work are the things that I move around I am not00:02:18
also interested in Puente de Vallecas in other00:02:19
districts of Vicálvaro Retiro that do not00:02:23
affect me from there so seeing this00:02:26
situation our interest in facilitating00:02:28
citizen participation in00:02:30
referenced training that it is not an00:02:32
accessory element but rather a00:02:33
central element of citizen participation00:02:35
that directs how citizens00:02:37
participate in such as00:02:40
georeferencing.00:02:42
Well, I will tell you three initiatives or rather00:02:46
two initiatives and a line of00:02:47
work in which we are participating00:02:49
in Regarding georeferencing,00:02:53
the first is an initiative for the00:02:56
San Isidro festivities that we have just00:02:58
finished. The mayor's office00:03:02
asked all areas of the government,00:03:05
mayors of the government, what initiatives we could present,00:03:07
what projects we could00:03:09
present to energize and make00:03:12
these festivities more interesting. San00:03:14
Isidro00:03:16
since we have the00:03:17
herria tools that are online, what we have00:03:19
tried is to exploit it, so we have00:03:22
generated an initiative for00:03:24
online energies that allows citizens to00:03:26
share photos, upload00:03:27
photos of their moments in this week of00:03:29
San Isidro in a georeferenced way and00:03:33
share it With all the citizens,00:03:34
then this is a screenshot of the00:03:36
main screen of the portal in which00:03:38
the citizen enters with the San00:03:40
Isidro logo, an infographic from this year and00:03:43
can upload their moment. It can be a00:03:46
photo in the first box as the00:03:49
location is chosen. geographical, that type of00:03:51
treatment complements the text, then the00:03:54
street of Montalban or whatever it is, but it is00:03:57
complete, it locates it on the map, you attach00:03:59
the photo or you use it and then from the00:04:01
camera, if you are on your mobile phone to00:04:02
take the photo and upload it and write a00:04:05
title of a description for that photo00:04:07
that you are uploading now we are taking00:04:09
a spin the last twist00:04:11
looking at the00:04:12
intellectual property rights system of authorization00:04:15
to share the most images of00:04:17
minors that appear in the photo is not00:04:19
included here we will do it before00:04:20
put it into operation and what this00:04:22
does is upload that photo, it00:04:25
goes through a prior validation filter,00:04:28
logically since the Internet is open,00:04:30
any citizen without00:04:31
identifying themselves can upload photos because00:04:33
we have to verify that the photos00:04:35
they are uploading are relevant and the00:04:37
inappropriate in which case they00:04:39
would be discarded if the photo is appropriate it is00:04:41
validated in that validated box font00:04:43
is set to true and00:04:46
the photo that we have on the00:04:49
left is automatically published a carousel with all the00:04:50
photos that citizens upload00:04:52
georeferenced on the map As you can00:04:54
see on the right,00:04:56
we hope that the majority will be the00:04:57
San Isidro prairie area and well, it is an00:04:59
initiative so that citizens00:05:00
can share photos of00:05:02
these festivities that we hope00:05:04
will be successful, this is an example of the00:05:08
visualization, click on us at any00:05:10
point on the map and shows you the photo that00:05:13
has been uploaded, the location in the description,00:05:15
what date in the case of the citizen's photo,00:05:22
well, this is online resale, it00:05:24
makes it easy to provide the map, map with00:05:27
images and the large image,00:05:30
well, we have what the citizen uploads and00:05:32
we have the same thing in the visualization00:05:35
on mobile phones because we have on the left00:05:37
the map in the next one is to00:05:40
formulate since it allows you to upload the00:05:42
image to be referenced the carousel of00:05:44
images the detail of each of00:05:46
the photos that have been uploaded00:05:48
this is until this small00:05:52
initiative from San Isidro arrives, which is a00:05:54
way to try to collaborate and energize00:05:56
citizen participation in this00:05:58
week of Sant Instituto in these00:06:00
festivities. The second initiative is in00:06:04
relation to00:06:05
participatory budgets, we have the portal from00:06:07
Madrid I mentioned at the beginning that it is00:06:08
our citizen participation tool00:06:10
that was made six years ago.00:06:13
Logical limitations come six years00:06:15
later00:06:17
and we want to complement what00:06:20
we have, so right now we are00:06:21
involved in a participatory budgeting process,00:06:24
which is a process with that00:06:26
There is a space for yours logo. It00:06:27
was not advertised or is being advertised. The00:06:30
city council puts 50 million euros, or00:06:32
rather, commits 50 million00:06:35
euros of its budget to spend on00:06:36
initiatives proposed by citizens.00:06:38
15 million are for initiatives that00:06:41
cover the entire community. city and 35 million00:06:43
euros are distributed00:06:45
proportionally more to the population00:06:47
for each of the districts of the00:06:49
city of Madrid,00:06:51
our examples on the website are the00:06:53
economic distribution of each of the00:06:55
districts based on their population, this00:06:57
budget that they have allocated for00:06:59
that citizens propose projects and00:07:02
the city council then validates them and they are00:07:03
executed,00:07:05
explaining it in a little more00:07:06
detail. It has several phases. The first is00:07:08
that those who arrive present us with their00:07:10
projects that exist between September and00:07:12
October last year, an00:07:15
initial review of the projects was carried out. projects,00:07:16
discarding them for those that are not appropriate,00:07:17
for example because we are not00:07:19
competent00:07:20
or because the amount exceeds what00:07:23
each district has assigned. If you want to00:07:25
build a swimming pool that costs 500:07:26
million euros and your district has00:07:29
already publicly assigned one million two hundred of The first is discarded00:07:32
after an open phase00:07:33
in which the servants support00:07:36
the projects, the list of00:07:37
validated projects is published and the citizens00:07:40
support in such a way that00:07:42
a ranking of the most supported projects is established on a scale.00:07:45
All projects are evaluated.00:07:48
and a cut is established with00:07:52
a formula that establishes the00:07:54
guidelines for participation of00:07:55
participatory budget projects00:07:57
and a certain number of projects00:08:01
that have been the most supported and that have been00:08:02
evaluated by specialists from each00:08:04
area of government as viable to the phase00:08:07
We are going to start this phase of voting00:08:09
shortly this month and there the citizens00:08:11
vote on which projects00:08:13
they want to be executed, those who are00:08:15
winners, a ranking is also established00:08:17
and they are executed until00:08:18
the project of each district is taken over the entire00:08:20
city00:08:22
because I was counting all this okay00:08:24
this is very good it is as it was but00:08:26
here we do not have the referencing and00:08:27
we want to put it then for this phase00:08:29
which is the most interesting of voting00:08:31
where the citizens decide what has00:08:34
been selected and what is going to be done or00:08:35
that it is not really given based on that00:08:37
ranking is where a budget cut line is going to be put00:08:39
and it is going to be chosen00:08:41
because we want to impose it by putting the00:08:45
georeferencing one. This is a00:08:47
screenshot of simply the00:08:49
current portal that you see is not there is no00:08:50
georeferencing there are no maps that we00:08:52
find very interesting in00:08:54
positive and negative votes you can vote for00:08:56
the project to be carried out you can vote00:08:57
against if there is a project that00:09:01
could be conflictive that in some00:09:03
neighborhood there are people who do but there are also00:09:05
many people don't, well other00:09:06
calls came out with projects that in00:09:09
particular a project that was not00:09:10
considered to have many people00:09:12
against it and it is a way to avoid it is in00:09:14
this call we added the00:09:16
negative votes well and after all this this00:09:18
introduction and this is the00:09:21
initiative of georeferencing for00:09:23
participatory budgets,00:09:26
as I said, people are really00:09:29
interested in what affects the entire city,00:09:31
it is what affects them where they live, where00:09:33
they work, and what we are going to do is make00:09:35
this the way to enter the00:09:38
voting phase. of00:09:40
georeferenced participatory budgets with orientation to maps00:09:42
the map directs you so the first thing00:09:44
you have to do is enter have a map of00:09:47
Madrid where all the00:09:49
projects that you will be able to vote for are painted on the00:09:51
right you have the ranking of the00:09:52
most voted proposals that will be alive It is an00:09:54
initiative that we have done with Aries00:09:56
Online but every 30 minutes it00:09:57
recovers data from the Decide00:09:59
Madrid portal where it is recorded, so00:10:01
every 30 minutes it is updated. It is a00:10:04
live vote instead of a00:10:07
static vote in which you are not clear, well,00:10:09
well that is being voted because here00:10:11
you can form almost online you are going to00:10:14
be seeing the evolution of the00:10:15
votes of the projects in a00:10:17
georeferenced way with a small00:10:18
dashboard that allows you to separate the00:10:20
male female or unspecified votes00:10:23
by district00:10:25
you have everything quite well00:10:27
classified00:10:29
this initiative refers to the00:10:31
separate initiatives a separate web page00:10:33
that has this map above00:10:35
and below because it allows you does not allow00:10:37
above in the menu and below in this00:10:39
district box select if you want to see00:10:41
the entire city you want to see some00:10:43
district in particular, which is what00:10:45
we said is usually interesting because you can00:10:48
gossip all over the city but then00:10:49
you go to the district that really interests you,00:10:50
it will be the one where you live here00:10:52
painted mine and you will see what00:10:55
the initiatives are and confess that it The00:10:57
first thing you see are the initiatives that00:10:58
surround your house, it is something more interesting to00:11:00
your house to the children's school, then00:11:01
you are going to see the work, precisely, it is00:11:03
interesting, it seems to me, let's take it00:11:06
in the participation for less than a00:11:07
year and I It seems very very interesting to see00:11:09
what they want to do in my community00:11:12
of neighbors and nearby areas. You really00:11:15
see things, you get information that you didn't know00:11:17
and of course, it supports what00:11:18
interests you00:11:19
positively or negatively, what you are not00:11:22
interested in, you don't want it to be that.00:11:24
It is usually punctual and, of course, all00:11:27
the information you have on the right00:11:28
with dashboards by gender by00:11:31
district00:11:33
and the voting numbers, whether00:11:35
positive or negative, and the result of00:11:38
both, is dynamically updated00:11:40
based on the selection you can make in00:11:41
the map00:11:45
and then you can click on each of the00:11:47
points, the larger the point is, it00:11:49
means that the more support you have, the more00:11:51
support there has been from the citizens of00:11:52
the previous phases and you can access00:11:55
any of them, it shows you a little00:11:57
text box, it is a bit small we00:12:00
would have liked it to be later but it00:12:01
has limited us to the team tool00:12:03
of seeing what the citizen has written00:12:05
the photos here you have a scroll bar00:12:07
where you can go down or up to00:12:09
see all the text00:12:12
and well here put several examples this00:12:15
is another example here on the right with00:12:17
more text then you can be on this00:12:19
page browsing seeing what is00:12:21
there and when you are interested in voting you press the00:12:23
this project button00:12:27
and this takes you to the madrid diversion page00:12:30
specifically on that project00:12:32
where you can vote and make the00:12:34
positive or negative vote for this project that00:12:36
you are interested in voting for00:12:40
later, because I am not going to00:12:42
stay too long with the same presentation on00:12:44
mobile devices, which, as you00:12:45
all know, is the main means of00:12:47
access participation for00:12:49
citizens and has been around for a long time.00:12:51
Of course, about the statistics, let's say00:12:53
four web portals that we have much00:12:55
more access through different mobile tubes00:12:56
than through fish, which complicates our00:12:59
lives a little, everything must be said00:13:01
then, because you have the same thing here on the00:13:03
map of Madrid that you can select00:13:04
the districts you have. the ranking of the00:13:06
most voted proposals, each box00:13:08
can be maximized as you can see here00:13:10
to see only to see about the00:13:11
most voted proposals00:13:12
below we have the boxes that00:13:15
allow you to select the districts and00:13:17
then as you click on each at each00:13:19
point on the map then you It opens the00:13:21
different projects with the information00:13:23
and the link to vote as I mentioned00:13:26
before00:13:30
and finally we have this, I would not call it00:13:33
a project but a line of work that00:13:36
is the redesign of the portal decides Madrid -00:13:38
this portal has been very limited for six years.00:13:41
Regarding usability, it is also debatable.00:13:43
We have many requests to improve00:13:46
usability. Furthermore, we need to add00:13:48
citizen feedback mechanisms00:13:50
because we have a defect that was made00:13:52
from the conception of this portal in00:13:54
its beginnings, which is that00:13:57
information is received from citizens but They are not00:14:00
responded to, there are some initiatives, a monitoring tab is put in place00:14:03
but the00:14:05
information given is very small,00:14:06
so this produces demotivation00:14:07
for the citizen because clearly we want to00:14:10
put georeferencing in this, renew00:14:13
the design for greater usability of00:14:16
current reference to00:14:17
prescription information. You can act with what00:14:19
interests you and complement it by adding00:14:21
feedback mechanisms or00:14:23
information return mechanisms that the city council00:14:24
tells the citizen what has been00:14:26
done with what they have requested, which may be00:14:28
discarded because it is not considered00:14:30
appropriate for them to do so. It can be done, it is being00:14:32
done, it is going to be done within some00:14:33
plans that may be in progress, as00:14:35
many times it is requested00:14:36
that streets be pedestrianized or that00:14:39
parks and gardens be improved and these are things that are00:14:41
with the indigenous people to put an elevator at00:14:46
the bus stop. sales meter and well, I00:14:50
was looking for information, well, it is already00:14:51
there, there is a contract in execution, it is00:14:53
planned that they are doing the studies next00:14:55
year, the following year it is planned to00:14:57
start the work to install that00:14:58
elevator but we do not get the00:15:00
information,00:15:02
although in Madrid the city council The00:15:04
general administrations give00:15:06
information, many times we do not get00:15:07
the citizen to arrive. It is interesting00:15:09
that here he drives or asks for something specific00:15:12
and specific, we can respond00:15:13
easily. This is the state, what you are00:15:15
experiencing is going to be done, it is not going to be done00:15:17
if he leaves. to make this situation this is00:15:19
the evolution of forms of reference00:15:21
because logically any citizen00:15:23
when he goes through the sales area if00:15:25
someone has asked for an elevator he is going to00:15:27
see a little dot in sales he is going to click on00:15:29
'no look change an elevator that to me00:15:31
I am also interested or what may be00:15:33
of interest and look at the response of the00:15:35
city council on this specific point00:15:37
referenced here is that the contract should be slowly advanced00:15:38
over the next two years,00:15:40
so it is interesting not only to00:15:42
facilitate citizen participation00:15:44
but also to generate an easy way00:15:47
to complement or improve the mechanisms00:15:49
that we have. to provide information00:15:50
actions about what we are doing so00:15:54
that you feel that we listen to you and we are00:15:56
a close organization in the end00:15:58
the city council really is we are oriented00:16:00
to the city we make an effort to00:16:02
work for them but they do not always00:16:04
reach all the information and they are We are00:16:06
aware that we do not know what is being00:16:07
done and well, this is a line of00:16:10
work that we are working on,00:16:11
we hope to have the end of the year, as you have00:16:14
posted some small screenshots of the00:16:17
screens that we are preparing,00:16:18
so well, as you mentioned,00:16:21
there may be proposals from the citizens00:16:23
debates and then there are the00:16:25
participatory budgets as main elements00:16:29
and here it is to paint at the end what I00:16:31
said about referenced training will enter00:16:33
through the information of00:16:34
reference form now you enter into00:16:35
proposals it is not a list of text00:16:38
with some images what What we want is00:16:40
for you to sell that proposal if you see a00:16:41
map in which all the00:16:44
proposals there are are painted and you are going to see what00:16:46
really interests you because00:16:48
now when to draw for maybe00:16:50
interesting things but very dispersed you have00:16:52
good but this me We are00:16:54
relatively interested in diving and we are00:16:57
interested in the entry being00:16:58
georeferenced, that the00:16:59
first thing to look for is georeferencing the00:17:01
product of your neighborhood, your area where00:17:02
you work,00:17:04
where there are other family members,00:17:09
and we are going to do this in everything in00:17:11
the proposals in the debates and the00:17:12
participatory budgets that previously00:17:14
shared the initiative that we are00:17:15
having with this law, what we want is00:17:18
for our initiatives that is the portal to be00:17:20
georeferenced and all the information00:17:21
to be georeferenced and the budgets00:17:24
participatory budgets well of course they are one00:17:26
of the main elements in00:17:29
which we have This georeferencing00:17:30
and thanks, that is, through maps,00:17:35
the same as the day before, the00:17:38
mobile visualizations are the same and it00:17:40
seems to you that it is even more important that the map00:17:44
really covers the entire screen and in the00:17:45
end it tries to navigate the map00:17:47
to see what So you have close to the00:17:49
areas that interest you to be able to00:17:51
participate00:17:55
and with this I apologize that it has been a00:17:57
bit brief because my presentation ends,00:18:00
as I said, the obsession is00:18:03
to change the way of accessing the data00:18:05
so that it is always georeferenced,00:18:07
that is, georeferencing. direct00:18:10
your participation and your00:18:12
action on the00:18:14
citizen participation portals00:18:16
thank you very much walking through the exhibition00:18:19
of course you are00:18:20
participating I am doing a00:18:21
very interesting job and I think it is the00:18:24
most appropriate way to access because right now00:18:27
everyone is00:18:28
working with the what referencing00:18:31
from00:18:32
the browsers and send me another to a00:18:35
place and tell me where I'm going or tell me what00:18:37
restaurants I'm close to then00:18:39
that ax way of explaining to the00:18:41
citizens what geographical environments are,00:18:42
I think they are very00:18:44
interesting okay in the chat There is no00:18:46
question, therefore,00:18:49
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Tras la Sesión Plenaria de las Jornadas de Geodatos 2022 del Ayuntamiento de Madrid, celebrada el 4 de mayo, se han llevado a cabo el jueves 5 las presentaciones de las GeoJornadas 2022. La Subdirección General de Innovación e Información Urbana del Área de Gobierno de Desarrollo Urbano ha ofrecido más de treinta en formato virtual y con una temática muy variada. En «Georreferenciación en las iniciativas de participación ciudadana», celebrada el jueves 5 de mayo en la sala 4 de la plataforma del evento, el jefe de Servicio de Coordinación Participativa y Tecnológica del Ayuntamiento de Madrid, Fernando Peñín Ramírez, ha explicado la importancia de la información georreferenciada en la nueva línea de trabajo en la que está volcada Decide Madrid y ha compartido dos de las iniciativas en las que están trabajando para potenciar la participación ciudadana de la ciudad de Madrid: la de San Isidro, que ha permitido a la ciudadanía compartir sus fotos georreferenciadas en el marco de las fiestas del Patrón de la capital, y la del mapa de votaciones de presupuestos participativos. Ha moderado la intervención José María Boyano Sánchez, subdirector general de Innovación e Información Urbana del Área de Desarrollo Urbano. Suscripción gratuita a nuestro canal de YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDcvhOyqHPTkY7Z2f4T04YA Redes Sociales: Twitter: https://twitter.com/geoportalmadrid Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subdireccion-general-de-innovacion-e-informacion-urbana/ Geoportal del Ayuntamiento de Madrid: https://geoportal.madrid.es/IDEAM_WBGEOPORTAL/index.iam Jornadas de Geodatos del Ayuntamiento de Madrid: https://geojornadas.madrid.es/ Contacto: Las personas interesadas pueden contactar con el equipo de Geoportal a través de [email protected]
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