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one of the most beloved guests of our
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channel, a popular journalist,
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channel presenter Khodorkovsky Sergei Oslon Sergei
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Greetings Hello Ilya, hello
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everyone, glad to see you Well, you know, like
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someone who has something that hurts, that’s what I’m talking about right
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now in the United
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States. In general, of course, everything here is a drug addict with
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horses But that’s why Mr. TM wanted to start with
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you
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at a pre-election rally in
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South
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Carolina about a vein that
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every
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American without exception is now discussing. Well, it’s clear that he,
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as always, said that the war
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must be ended, that’s what I
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said,
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and he criticized all the
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bills that are now in
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Congress that relate to assistance
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to Ukraine, it is Trump who is considered the main
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opponent of providing military assistance,
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financial assistance, and so on. It all
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depends specifically on his figure and his
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movement of the Magician. But then he said
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amazing things. Come on,
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Izzy said well, sir, if we don’t pay and
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we will be attacked by Russia you will protect us I
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said You didn't pay then you're
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behind on your payment No I wouldn't
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defend you actually I would
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advise them to do whatever the hell they
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want You have to pay You
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have to pay your
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bills Well I mean that's actually it he
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said that I would like Russia
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to attack NATO countries, he even had
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such a direct phrase in his speech, in
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English,
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that is, Well, it’s clear that in the context
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it was all about the fact that people are freeloaders
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and not partners, that America pays
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money and This means only some
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countries that make enough
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payments According to obligations that
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spend 2% of their VP on the military for
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military needs, America bears this burden and
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in this sense it is all absolutely reasonable,
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but in general it once again gives the
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impression that Trump is an ally
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of Putin, what are you talking about?
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you think we won’t fully
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understand Trump, but we see him on different
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sides of the ocean in a completely different light
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because Americans perceive him
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differently than we do and we of course understand that we are
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talking about war, that war in
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Europe is inevitable, that Putin is of course
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he will attack Lithuania and Poland and the
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Suwalki corridor, and then
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no one will stop him everywhere. But when
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Trump now speaks to the Americans,
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he first of all has in mind the
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American problems, the American
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situation, his positioning in the eyes of the
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Americans and the Americans he said not
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the same thing he told us Americans
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I am a businessman I am not a politician and I know for sure
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that money should not go elsewhere
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and we should not spend freely In the
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name of abstract interests and when I
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become president I will make sure that the
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American economy will work for the
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enrichment of everyone American I
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will try to plug those cracks that
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leak finances from the American
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wallet and the Americans did not listen to him from the
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point of view of some abstract
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Ukraine that they will not find on the map, and
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even more so of certain states that
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exist somewhere in Europe; Americans don’t
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really know where this is Europe They think
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that it is somewhere in the area of ​​Mexico and when
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he tells them that I will not allow money
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from the budget to be spent on something that you do not
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understand. They immediately see something fresh and
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new, they understand the rhetoric of the president. Yes, you
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turn out to be for us, that's what we're talking about,
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you're a good guy, let's
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vote for you because you
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know exactly what a dollar is worth in our economy, and the
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other side of the coin
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is fear all over the world and the understanding that it
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turns out that they're going to cheat, of course
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they're going to cheat because in reality in fact, on
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Trump’s neck there is, for example, the
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support of the UN and Guterres the UN is an absolutely
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useless organization, the UN has shown its
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insolvency, just like NATO
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has shown that they are ready from morning to night
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to sign documents but are not ready for
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real deeds And yet he has Claims against him
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no, he’s not talking about the fact that
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I still have some kind of organization hanging around my neck, the
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president who deals
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only with grain deals, and when there was a
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grain deal in Ukraine, he immediately
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rushed to talk. And as soon as there
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was no prospect of making money on something,
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he basically followed he caught a cold in the
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current Ukrainian conflict in general he has no
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complaints please the UN remains as a freeloader
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but the war is one way or another if the
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Americans haven’t heard about the UN at all if you
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tell them that you know the headquarters of the UN
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is located on the territory of the United States of America
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I will say Yes this
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can’t happen Oh well Where has this been seen? And if you
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tell them that Europe, well, in the end,
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we know this in Mexico and there is a war there, and well, the
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Mexican drug cartels in Europe are definitely fighting there now, we know,
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so in order to be understood and
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a little closer, he started talking about that that
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Well, in principle, he has at least some chance
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of a response and he started talking about money, he
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actually spoke about money during his previous reign, he
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divided money and about the
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situation in relationships with people
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that you either become richer or
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poorer, my predecessor made a
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huge number of mistakes came up with
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some kind of medical insurance for some
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people who didn’t lift a
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finger, he somehow brought them into medicine,
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allowed them to have free penicillin at your expense
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and a vitamin under the
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tongue, that won’t happen either, and he is
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absolutely in this regard continues
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his previous rhetoric from the previous
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period of government when he was
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president trying
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to increase the wealth of every American in one way or another, the fact
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that everyone else understood it
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in their own way and were afraid of the yoke, not a
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wave at all, he spoke to the
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Americans Well, you know the politician,
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it is clear that he is speaking primarily to
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his own electoral, especially during the
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election campaign,
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but now this quote about the fact
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that he is inviting Russia to
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attack NATO countries will be rinsed. It’s
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just that every day
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for many months, the entire
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American Media, that is, the White House, has already
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called these statements
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They said there are terrible crazy yes, although
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in my opinion, if you talk like that there with a
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cool head, then in general what he
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said there to Ukraine is
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rather beneficial for our resistance. That is, he says
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guys, spend money on defense, spend it
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If you want to be protected We are
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ready to protect you If you
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spend it yourself money If you pay
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your bills and this, of course, is the only
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truly
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effective policy No one from the ocean,
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like you and correctly speaking,
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understands any of the nuances of the situation on
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earth, their interests, and so on Each
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country must be ready to defend itself,
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this is the only one in fact
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in fact, a guarantee of peace But here you are, as a
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professional in the Media Do you think
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these statements will ultimately
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play a positive or negative role for Trump? They will cost
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him dearly, and Trump knows how to
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bluff and go to Aban, he understands perfectly well
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that everything is Feast except the obituary and
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if he vaguely said something to himself on a tray
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about the fact that there is peace in the world and we
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will provide the eternally hungry blacks in Africa with
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bananas, then accordingly
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his speech lives in copper for 5 minutes
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if he allowed himself to do something scandalous and
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resonant to titrate this mention of the
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name of trump and this is for him for the good because,
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in principle, if he now comes out with
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some very clear program Well, as
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Nadezhdin tried to sincerely answer the
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questions, will there be a war or will there not be a war,
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he will be of no interest to anyone and in
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any case he will not be understood and Trump
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said the maximum that is scandalous and understandable to
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his audience that now the strip will be for a
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very long time and this is not the last
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move because after that Trump will travel
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to other states and there he will say that it is
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paradoxical And thereby give rise to a
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second wave that will block the first
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edition; he will no longer pull out the quote from this
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conversation. But then that in the campaign He took and
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revised the essence of NATO because NATO -
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This was not a paid service of NATO - it
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was moral and physical support for the
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weak against the strong, and NATO did not stand
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on the fact that you stomp it and you bury it
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if you don’t have 2% of your budget, then we we are
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not defending you on this,
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lization was, in principle, very
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reassuringly
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conducive to the growth of countries that knew
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that as long as they were under the NATO umbrella, no matter how
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they would pay back their 2%, they
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nevertheless have a chance for survival and development,
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and then a huckster appears who speaks
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for a minute you were in vain to decide that our
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PMC works on the moral principles of
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defense is weak, our PMC works strictly
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according to the contract, if you paid
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us for a sniper, then the Sniper will come and
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shoot.
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will shoot down such a vile approach
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to the essence of NATO. Moreover, he also
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said a few words about Stoltenberg. But
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no one was ready for this and the European
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resonance is therefore worse and worse, but at the
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same time those who are in the White House are now
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talking about how much this incorrect
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wording when Trump enters there. And
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there is a chance that he will enter the White House, they will
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simply change jobs and no one
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will remember that it turns out that the White House
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had some other position. Well, because
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by the right of the strong, he will decide in his favor
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the personnel of any character who
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today he allows himself to
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say something like this, what’s scary is that
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he can really follow this
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principle and now, when there is no time,
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is a good period for
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Putin’s attack on Europe, when power passes from one
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American president
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to another and it is not clear who is the most
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important on planet Earth. then
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the one who, being the main one, comes and said
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the checks have not been paid so there will be no help.
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And then it turns out that all of NATO is
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only Germany and also all the other
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countries that are part of it
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hope for something. But each of these countries has a
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tiny army and each of these countries in
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its defense doctrine it has a
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very clear postulate to hold out for
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15 seconds for the main forces to approach, and the
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main forces are always American
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because Poland, which
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today is at the forefront of the attack, and Poland
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received a black mark because Carlson
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asked about Poland and Putin just
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confirmed that he will attack her by saying
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that he has no complaints against
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Poland, but when the Russian President
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says that under no circumstances will
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prices be raised, under no circumstances will they be
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monetized, under no circumstances will we
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touch pensioners, under no circumstances
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will there be mobilization, then we are for sure we know
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what will happen Therefore, when Putin said that there
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are no complaints against Poland, this
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means that there will definitely now be a
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war with Poland, and everything is very simple.
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Poland will attack Russia first, it will
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fire at the radio station in Danzig and
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Russia will simply be forced to respond
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to this unfriendly gesture and so on and
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will take measures for one thing, by the way, the people are
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paying because it was NATO that attacked and
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Poland has an army - well, look, in
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fact it’s 60,000 people,
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no matter how Poland says that there are 150 of them with an
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increase to 300 in Poland in
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World War II. Poland doesn’t have them ground forces are the
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number of people who took
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the oath, these are four Divisions, this is 60,
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about 60 people, they have four
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Divisions, plus another airborne
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brigade, not only from shock forces.
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Yes, when your army consists of Czechs, it
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doesn’t matter at all whether you have
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anything else in the Second World War,
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Poland had a million people and Germany's
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invasion army was an operation against Poland in
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1939. At that time, the
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Wehrmacht was 3.7 million. But in order to
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trample Poland,
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one and a half million were enough and the forces were equal; the
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number of Germans who attacked Poland
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was equal. Polish army, but the
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Polish army at that moment had 11
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elite cavalry divisions and against the
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tank. It turned out that it was still cavalry.
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Well, perhaps not very much, which did not prevent the
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Red Army, for example, from retaining its cavalry
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until 1955 instead of
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building aircraft carriers. Today
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Poland, which holds the sky over the
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Baltic countries because Polish F-16s
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control Latvia, Lithuania and
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Estonia, the airspace will
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not be able to defend itself, it will
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rely on NATO NATO knows that the
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Suwalki corridor is a strategically
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vulnerable object. Therefore, there are
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German and American armies there and these
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4000 are there are the most basic forces
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that will win
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the war against Putin. Sergei, what about these four,
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so five, yes, that is, there was an
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increase in the contingent to 5000, but that’s not
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the point. It’s interesting that the
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notorious Baltic countries are precisely those
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countries that fulfill their
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obligations within the framework of NATO. the
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military budget is just higher than 2%
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of GDP Who are the
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main defaulters? This is Germany,
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France and a number of other Western
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European countries, but they are not so worried
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about a possible attack, worry about the
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Baltic countries. But this
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Trump rhetoric is here now, too, in
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Washington, a number of
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representatives Baltic countries, it
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certainly gives a
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positive impression and for some centuries we
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actually understand from the position of the Great Russian
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Great Sorochinsky
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because in
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fact there were very few factors of unification between them.
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And if on average you
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ask a Lithuanian something about ltsh he’ll shrug his
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shoulders and ask: Is this somewhere there? Well, I do
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n’t know what’s there. It’s somewhere far away.
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towards the same
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neighbor Latvia, they know that there is
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Finland and therefore when the integration of the
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three defense ministers took place, this
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suggests that the fear and understanding is
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absolutely concrete, it is no coincidence that the
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Norwegian Minister of Defense said that they have
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No more than 3 years before the attack, a report from the
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German General
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the fact that, of course, probably
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somewhere this year, this is part of the reckoning
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when Putin attacks Europe. Although according to
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other forecasts, the twenty-fifth
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year was named as the moment of the attack,
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and therefore when the same Germans
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say, well, okay, they will attack us in the
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PM But to twenty-seventh We
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will definitely be in time, this also says a
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lot, but in the Baltic countries there is an
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understanding of what will happen, but the entire
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army of the Baltic countries is 40 to 50
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people, this is minutes of fighting and well, a certain
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protracted guerrilla one way or another
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situation that we know from Lithuanian
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sheets take the Latvian sheets to the brothers and
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they all count on NATO and suddenly
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from there from America from the most important
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country on planet Earth they write out a Check and
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say listen, someone here didn’t pay,
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so we won’t deal with you
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But it seems you all are still confusing
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Iran and Iraq is correct Sorry
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Austria Australia which of them where we don’t
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know and Putin is also not by chance when he
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stated that he has no complaints
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he confused Summer with Latvia because he does
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n’t know the difference in the World Cup about the rocks that Poland and
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Latvia don’t No claims Latvia,
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no Latvia, in principle, no one
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considered it says that everyone
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is confused and Trump, too, somewhere there, someone didn’t
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pay and this is the biggest problem of Europe is
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that it still believes in the presence of
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troops and NATO countries United by the fifth
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point in which, in fact, no one
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read the meaning and it says that there is no
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obligation to help and start
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a war, but against Russia, which to this
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day threatens everyone with a nuclear club,
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absolutely all are weaklings, and therefore when
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Putin falls on Europe and in America
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there will be a president who has not paid
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checks, then Lithuania will fight one-on-one
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with Putin, then Poland will fight one-on-
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one with Putin, and then Latvia and Lithuania,
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which will be left as an
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appetizer. Well, I don’t know, I’ll say it again that the
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Baltic countries have very well
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paid checks. And in general, that’s what I
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feel there, in communication with this
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team Yes with the gangway
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team. It seems to me that Trump himself
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perceives this, as you correctly
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said, as a certain business,
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here we have not a private, well, a state-owned
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military company. But nevertheless,
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a company that means is ready to appear at your
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call at any point of the
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globe with the entire sixth and other fleets, so we can
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ensure the fulfillment of certain
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commercial interests. Well, just let’s,
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as if it were completely profitable, do you
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pay us there or there we
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make money on this in some other way? In my
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opinion, he has no desire to go out
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not from any NATO No, he has a
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desire that the services of
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NATO, or rather not NATO, but the United States of
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NATO, would cost more and everyone
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would pay more accurately and quickly. I think that
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there is no danger of exit there, I just
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think that he will act
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decisively enough just for that
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in order to make money Do you think that he
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will generally cover NATO as a
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shop? No, of course, because he does not
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have the task of changing the configuration; he
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has the task of using
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this tool for business, if NATO is
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able to bring money, the law of lizi
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is able to bring money, then why this
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she hasn’t yet brought her testicles to cut the chicken.
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But a war begins and
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instead of the
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sixth American fleet coming to your shore, they
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write out a check and say, Well, now let’s
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judge you in the war. 15 minutes of
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making a decision. If after 15 minutes you did
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n’t arrive in time, then there is nowhere else to go,
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so in 20 minutes there will be no one to
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sign for
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this payment, the transaction will not take place,
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there is simply no one there to
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pay you. Let’s discuss another topic
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also related to
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America. But on the other hand, now it
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seems to me that
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many international journalists experts
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They are so
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hypnotized by the States to blow away specks of dust
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there means Well, in general, somehow
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don’t even think about his prospects, and
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so let’s face it, a
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colossal scandal began and this
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scandal is connected with the fact that
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data from an investigation into the
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state of memory of President
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Biden was published.
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in fact, an Independent prosecutor there,
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who is not obviously completely
00:19:48
Independent, accused Biden of
00:19:50
not
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remembering the date and circumstances of the death of his
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dream, which means at a press conference,
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but the fact remains that last
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week I heard from a number of
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senior people in the Democratic
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Party that it was accepted the decision that Biden will
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not go to the polls, that this will be revealed
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at the very last moment since there is
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no longer an opportunity to conduct it, then
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accordingly
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there is a
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legal loophole that if
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the primaries have already de facto passed
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the Democrats, that means the winner,
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for some reason, cannot
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take part in the elections then he
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himself must point his finger at the person who
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can replace him in this situation.
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So there is a version that it could
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be the Governor of California Gary Yuson,
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who is
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winning against Trump. Well, in general,
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actually everyone except Biden is winning against Trump
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at the moment,
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so what’s the question? what do you think about
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this version, will we see a confrontation between
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Trump and Biden 2.0 because from the
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Republican side they also say that
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maybe Trump won’t be allowed in, but there will be Nicky
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heh, a wonderful combination by the way because in
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political science there is a postulate
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that if you want to be guaranteed
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to win, then your candidate must be
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unknown until the last moment and
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appear literally at the moment when it’s
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already too late because behind any
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candidate there is always a trail of actions,
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events of promises and there is always a chance to catch him at the World Cup
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and when the same Trump has
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now defeated Biden and it is clear that
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Biden is, in principle, already defeated and he
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can be carefully sent to the repair docks
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for maintenance, so
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he is no longer a politician, how can he be
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carefully exchanged for another horse,
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preferably a dark one, this is to castling at the last moment,
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remove Biden, who loses
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to Trump, and put in
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the one who wins against Trump, he can
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be anyone it could be
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the governor of California it could be
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absolutely any other politician. The
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less traces there are of him. The less
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legacy he has in politics, the more likely he is to
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win because everyone reacts to a new person with
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reassurance. People tend to
00:22:01
come up with fairy tales like we have come up with,
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hoping for what he really is like.
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We didn’t like the last name and We
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created the image of a politician and even
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admired and played with it for a whole month,
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lived and even somehow breathed in
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the prospect of actually deceiving
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completely 100% from the very beginning, the
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Americans will do the same so
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as soon as Biden is a lame duck goes
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for a technical inspection and leaves big
00:22:24
politics, Trump is immediately given another
00:22:27
stronger player for whom there is no
00:22:29
negativity, he all wins right away
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Hello to the American President
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Because with Biden there is,
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in principle, a reason to hope for something No with Trump Everything
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is clear he checks to the right and
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he throws it to the left, this is also a dangerous game,
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so there must be someone else in such an
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elegant way to slip someone else in. An
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absolutely wonderful scheme has
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long been known in political science; this
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actually takes place even in Russian
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universities in
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political science courses. Well, in general, of course, it’s very
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interesting. If this happens, I’m not
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sure. that this strongly correlates with the
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concept of democracy, but nevertheless the fact
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remains the last
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sociological survey of
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86% of Americans, 86%, that is, even
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more than half of the Democrats believe that
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Biden is too old to
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run for a new term, it’s true and
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77% of Americans believe that Trump is
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too old to run for a
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new term, approximately, that is, the numbers are
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proportional to their age Yes,
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well, I don’t know, of course I really want
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to see new blood here, it’s not clear
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how much the political system
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will allow this, but for now here’s the third topic, the
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last one, that is, I don’t want it anymore, it means
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about America it takes so long to talk, yes, that
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is, but nevertheless I can’t get around it
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with you, too, as a Media
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professional Well, in general, also all
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week The whole world, in fact, and the states
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are discussing
00:24:00
Putin’s interview with Tucker
00:24:03
Carlson, which is typical of the previous
00:24:05
interview Well, the scale is comparable in
00:24:08
terms of figure the interviewer there with Oliver
00:24:11
groaning. It was
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n’t even discussed that much. But
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this interview just became a big
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event, I don’t know the last time I
00:24:21
looked on Twitter, the number of views
00:24:24
there was already more than 200 million. And there are
00:24:27
still a bunch of other platforms there, which means Elon
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Muske is actively
00:24:31
promoting this interview Well, it definitely
00:24:34
became resonant again, the White House
00:24:36
says that this interview was absurd
00:24:39
and unnecessary there Scholz came from Germany
00:24:43
publicly on camera sitting with Biden
00:24:46
discussing this interview Well, in general, that
00:24:48
is, everyone is talking about me, there were
00:24:51
already four gathered here times At
00:24:53
the consultation with different groups such focus
00:24:55
groups of American cheats
00:24:59
regarding whether this interview
00:25:02
is a success or a failure for Putin, it
00:25:07
seems to me that the task of this interview for
00:25:09
Putin was to influence the Voters of
00:25:13
those Republican congressmen who are
00:25:16
now hesitant about the issue of
00:25:19
military assistance to Ukraine and in this sense
00:25:21
it it was certainly useful because
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instead of the image of such a classic
00:25:26
dictator
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T-Kadafi m and someone else They
00:25:32
saw there, well, maybe it’s a strange dude
00:25:35
who talks about some kind of
00:25:36
Rurikovich incomprehensible Yes but but
00:25:39
in general Well, it seems like a normal dude, that
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is, here no one there without horns without hooves
00:25:45
and everything else And this audience, in
00:25:47
principle, is very foreign policy, so the
00:25:50
tar there expands for the most part
00:25:54
access in this SS
00:26:00
that we will never know how the
00:26:02
Americans actually reacted Because it’s
00:26:04
one thing to have a public reaction when the
00:26:06
press -secretaries of different ranks
00:26:08
interpret the boss’s position in one way or another,
00:26:11
explaining what they liked or didn’t
00:26:12
like, we saw how Tar asked the
00:26:15
first sharp question, immediately received
00:26:18
some kind of remark in his ear, shut up, and after
00:26:20
that he was much more careful when he went
00:26:24
to the region for
00:26:26
2 years. imposingly boor Who pats everyone
00:26:37
very close to the image of the
00:26:41
Associate Professor from the gentlemen of luck is
00:26:44
almost the same Well, having softened
00:26:45
only perhaps to the level of this
00:26:48
kindergarten teacher
00:26:50
and see then of course we saw him and
00:26:54
for us in Russia this brought absolutely nothing
00:26:56
new for the West the person
00:26:59
who he
00:27:02
tells his version of the story for so long and diligently. This is at
00:27:04
least a reason to be wary, because
00:27:05
right away you want to ask your
00:27:07
press secretary there, like say John,
00:27:09
what is he talking about? This is him. This is what. What
00:27:12
facts does he remember here and what documents?
00:27:14
He hands over the container says A you know He was
00:27:16
mistaken, everything was wrong there And so it
00:27:18
turns out he doesn’t know what he’s talking about Yes,
00:27:20
yes, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and draw
00:27:22
conclusions that
00:27:24
Putin appeared in the public space in this
00:27:25
way When now America
00:27:28
saw him as positive
00:27:30
instead of a man with horns and his hands up to the
00:27:32
elbows in blood, not at all, because of
00:27:35
course no one says that he
00:27:36
understood and when they heard everyone they said, but this is what it
00:27:40
is and this is what will be clear from
00:27:42
actions but not from public
00:27:44
reactions, Putin
00:27:47
seemed like a man who is not
00:27:49
able to differentiate the audience. That
00:27:51
is, he is used to it so imposingly, even in
00:27:54
me. The Federal Assembly came out on a direct line
00:27:58
through the TV with the Soviet
00:28:00
people and told everything that he
00:28:03
considered necessary. Because no one
00:28:05
asks him again, he does not interrupt, and the
00:28:06
American in this In this case, it was also
00:28:08
more of a setup than for
00:28:10
journalists asking tough questions, and
00:28:12
Putin didn’t see the difference here,
00:28:14
that we need to talk to America differently.
00:28:16
And how can he talk differently? After all,
00:28:19
we are Putin, A priori, according to Russian
00:28:21
habit, if we consider him on a pedestal
00:28:23
the smartest No, he’s not the smartest, he’s the
00:28:28
same C grade student who
00:28:30
knows history very poorly and insists on his
00:28:33
version only because of his
00:28:34
administrative position as president, a
00:28:36
person who doesn’t know the subject but
00:28:39
nevertheless talks very actively about it with
00:28:41
Russians, this is Rental because the Russians they
00:28:43
nod their heads, they are immediately cast in granite
00:28:46
and go back to their huddle, forming the
00:28:49
Americans;
00:29:07
there are enough restraining factors and
00:29:08
self-criticism in order to understand that
00:29:10
he will not pull it off like an interview with a
00:29:12
person from another world in that world Shapira
00:29:15
another this is not our Shapira and their Shapira
00:29:18
first and will show you Whether you want it or
00:29:26
not, you closed it and went to bed thinking that you
00:29:29
won and everyone else started re
00:29:31
-reading, rethinking and marking it with a
00:29:33
red pencil on your test
00:29:35
paper on the method, here is an error, here is an error, here is
00:29:37
an error, here is an error, it won’t pass. What
00:29:40
you won’t find out about because they won’t tell you this, it’s
00:29:44
just that this will pass, it won’t pass, it’s
00:29:47
people who try in general who do it
00:29:51
listen to the text there to understand and so on
00:29:55
But we know that in public
00:29:59
communications, how you say is much
00:30:01
more important than what you say. Yes, there 80%
00:30:04
of perception is not verbal in nature,
00:30:08
it is clear that all the people who read it and
00:30:10
this is exactly what I think that
00:30:13
the perception of this interview is certainly
00:30:16
elites, and I think that even in the
00:30:17
Russian elites Yes, it worsens
00:30:20
Putin’s position because it is clear that the
00:30:22
person is not adequate Yes, he confuses
00:30:25
the facts, which means he makes stupid reservations Yes, he does
00:30:28
not understand the target audience, that is,
00:30:30
he simply lives there on another planet, but
00:30:32
for this you need to listen closely But that one the
00:30:35
target group for which all this
00:30:37
was started, it seems to me that they just don’t
00:30:40
really listen to it, so Gary Kasparov
00:30:44
ra or, in my opinion, yes, that is, he said
00:30:46
in general that he wants to arrange a debate with
00:30:50
Tucker Carlson, which means to
00:30:52
talk about this interview Well, in general
00:30:54
I don’t know about Putin and what’s going on,
00:30:59
he was so
00:31:03
crazy about him, there’s nothing special, he, in
00:31:05
my opinion, fully corresponds to his
00:31:08
own precisely
00:31:09
this target audience. But someone at all
00:31:13
takes this seriously, Hillary
00:31:15
Clinton, for example, even made a
00:31:18
detailed statement there where
00:31:23
I called him
00:31:26
I’ll sing,
00:31:28
I’ll say that everyone probably already knows
00:31:30
him, they consider him a useful idiot. If you
00:31:33
really look at what they write about him
00:31:34
on Russian social networks, they call him
00:31:37
Putin’s puppy, and in light of how many times
00:31:39
he was fired from the American media, I don’t
00:31:42
rule out that he’s contract with
00:31:47
Russia What do you think about
00:31:50
these layoffs and
00:31:52
HBO contracts, saying it was more
00:31:56
than
00:31:59
he received several tens of millions in
00:32:01
fees for his work Do you think
00:32:04
Carlson received money for this or not,
00:32:07
it was clear that
00:32:09
at least not all of the issues
00:32:12
were agreed upon with
00:32:13
Putin what kind of biography are
00:32:16
they doing for our redhead? As was once said on
00:32:18
another occasion, if Tar is a man who has already
00:32:22
been thrown to the sidelines of journalism. But they
00:32:25
want to interview him, arrange a
00:32:28
debate at the level of Kasparov, and Hillary
00:32:31
Clinton remembers his name and
00:32:33
even says it without hesitation. This suggests that
00:32:35
now he has finally returned to
00:32:37
where he was kicked out with a filthy broom and you
00:32:40
should never underestimate the work of the FSB. The
00:32:44
FSB also works with people of more weight and of a
00:32:47
more serious level, and Tucker
00:32:50
who never had a chance to
00:32:52
declare himself on planet Earth and
00:32:55
quietly from the trash can where
00:32:57
lately, I suddenly got so lucky to give meow here.
00:33:00
Only because he is an
00:33:04
American who was finally found in a
00:33:06
trash can and said Hey, whatever
00:33:08
your name is, Carlson, come on, fly to
00:33:11
us here in Russia, there’s a case, otherwise
00:33:14
no such thing was admitted of his own free will,
00:33:17
accepted or so as a goal setting
00:33:25
and behind your back that you are on what
00:33:28
site are you working where the container was found
00:33:33
remembered washed brought and shown to the world and
00:33:37
finally now he has finally
00:33:40
come to life he has regained at least some
00:33:42
significance SSB
00:33:45
works great, that is, there is no money
00:33:48
paid paid also a dacha in Sochi
00:33:55
in this regard, our tireless n Musk played a very large role
00:34:00
in the promotion of this interview,
00:34:03
it is on his site that the
00:34:08
most attention is paid to this
00:34:12
interview and so on, and at the same time
00:34:15
there are reports that
00:34:16
links have appeared in the Russian army here
00:34:19
we have a photograph of an American
00:34:23
port that shows here, and uh,
00:34:29
Ukrainian Military intelligence Andrei Yusov
00:34:32
says that yes, we know that this process is
00:34:35
not isolated in nature
00:34:38
And the Russians already have more than a dozen such
00:34:43
terminals, Musk himself says
00:34:45
that no we didn’t do anything there,
00:34:47
but I know very well because we
00:34:50
ourselves are, like the morning of February,
00:34:53
users of Star Links, a lot of
00:34:55
my friends at the front use
00:34:57
Stalin, they very accurately
00:35:00
determine by geolocation where they can
00:35:02
work, and where they accordingly
00:35:05
cannot work, like you explain the
00:35:07
appearance of Starlins in the Russian army,
00:35:11
firstly, this Trophy can always be You
00:35:13
never know who supplies what to whom on the
00:35:15
battlefield You can find absolutely they
00:35:16
should not work by geolocation That is the
00:35:18
question and nevertheless And secondly, if
00:35:22
Russia is now under 12
00:35:24
packages of sanctions, she calmly completely
00:35:27
acquires the elemental
00:35:29
base for her Iskanders and daggers all over the world, and
00:35:32
not only did she not choke, but she increased
00:35:34
production, then why doesn’t she buy a
00:35:35
couple of these Starlink cars for herself through the same way
00:35:38
she does through Switzerland through the
00:35:41
former Soviet Republics through everyone
00:35:43
else
00:35:44
and this is to deceive anyone any tracking
00:35:48
any control is not a problem to get the product servant
00:35:53
at the end of the conv they
00:35:55
took care of their emu nevertheless the British
00:35:58
firstly intercepted it secondly from
00:36:06
deciphered the product for sale it
00:36:09
will not be possible to keep track of the buyer therefore
00:36:12
what Russia has Lean doesn’t put
00:36:14
in any doubt that they work for
00:36:16
Lean, of course. Of course, this is a long time ago when the
00:36:20
KGB started wiretapping with the advent of cell
00:36:22
phones, and when CDMA
00:36:26
in Russia everyone said that it’s not
00:36:28
eavesdropping. The standard in the KGB is only ska
00:36:31
guys. Well, in this way case
00:36:32
test this evening Who hacks
00:36:35
WhatsApp Who boasts all his life that
00:36:37
it is impossible to
00:36:45
decrypt Therefore, when a person
00:36:47
believes that there are some Secrets, what
00:36:49
secrets we remember from childhood Pan Mamin
00:36:51
This was not on the phone, then it was meant
00:36:54
differently, but the context is also said therefore, to
00:36:57
be surprised that Russia has a
00:36:58
starling, what else do you want to be surprised
00:37:01
that you still don’t
00:37:04
know so much about Russia, that means at the tribunal on the
00:37:07
morning of February, Elon Musk was acquitted We will
00:37:11
assume that he didn’t know anything, he did it to someone else,
00:37:13
that is, also Media Celebrity, but
00:37:17
this means Russian our affairs
00:37:25
are comfortable
00:37:28
[music]
00:37:31
Sukhanov
00:37:33
Dat arian Romanovsky Tamirlan
00:37:36
Beyev were sentenced this week, and
00:37:40
all of them to rather long sentences there, 7
00:37:44
years, so Sukhanov got it, he was the head of
00:37:47
the media holding Sobchak
00:37:52
Carefully extinguish the light of
00:37:55
VH
00:37:58
rya Chemezov, they were sentenced to 7 years Well, there
00:38:04
here I will remind you that there was a serious
00:38:06
conflict between the chess
00:38:09
structure, the
00:38:10
husband of the main one, let’s say the female
00:38:14
competitor Ksenia Anatolyevna Sobchak
00:38:19
nla actually catching Sobchak’s employees
00:38:24
on
00:38:25
extortion, whether or not to
00:38:28
put materials there means they They asked for 11
00:38:31
million rubles per block against negative
00:38:34
information about what kind of wine channel As a result,
00:38:36
that is, they were all caught red-handed
00:38:39
and Sobchak after this trial Where Her
00:38:42
people were sentenced to more than 7
00:38:45
years, that means
00:38:57
people and the
00:38:59
day before yesterday a
00:39:02
big film about Ksenia
00:39:04
Savchak appeared on the NTV channel Well, where are the various hints in her
00:39:08
political history Although in theory In
00:39:10
general, Ksenia Anatolyevna did
00:39:13
everything possible there, in my opinion, to prove
00:39:14
that she
00:39:20
[the music] is
00:39:25
loyal, any forceful resistance there is
00:39:28
the Legion of Freedom of Russia Partisans and everything
00:39:31
else, nevertheless, So it
00:39:33
shows what all this is for, what do you
00:39:35
think, this further means the
00:39:39
introduction of extremely unpopular person
00:39:42
in the Russian opposition Or is the
00:39:45
authorities really tired of her This is the
00:39:47
position that means with ours and yours
00:39:52
Ksyusha Sobchak’s position is completely
00:39:54
agreed upon therefore When necessary, she
00:39:55
acts as a pad in the presidential
00:39:58
elections and there is something like that that powders the brains of
00:40:00
herself and the audience later everyone forgets about her,
00:40:01
therefore she is very profitable, very
00:40:03
useful with her habitat with
00:40:06
her audience with her own way of
00:40:07
making money, a person who is
00:40:09
allowed a lot but Any person in the
00:40:12
elite Under the Soviet government under the
00:40:13
Soviet regime does not know at what point,
00:40:15
being an Ezhov or a Beria, you will be shot
00:40:17
in the basement because this government has
00:40:20
such a feature, it destroys all its
00:40:21
allies without fail.
00:40:23
Therefore, Ksenia Sobchak will sooner
00:40:25
or later. Perhaps this is not now,
00:40:27
a little later the moment will come when she
00:40:29
will be shot in the basement. Just like the
00:40:31
Pavlovich Lavra today. She has
00:40:34
some difficulties that she overcomes
00:40:36
by handing over her people, showing that working with her is
00:40:38
very dangerous because she can
00:40:40
get out of it and you can’t, but in any case, she
00:40:44
will not reign forever Because sooner
00:40:48
or later, like Yezhova or Yagoda, she
00:40:51
will be sent to the Butovo
00:40:53
training ground. What do you think about DT sooner will
00:40:57
she be sent to the training ground or will she
00:40:58
have time to leave the country, that is, will
00:41:01
she be pressed to
00:41:03
just calmly
00:41:05
leave When the decision is made What
00:41:09
exactly to do with her, it will
00:41:11
inevitably be carried out in any part of
00:41:13
the world in the end or a blow to the head
00:41:16
Just when the order will be signed,
00:41:18
no one will review it and the
00:41:20
performers will go to work, maybe they will
00:41:22
need a beginner’s jar for this and one
00:41:24
week, maybe they will need
00:41:26
implementation for a whole year, or there will be a catch
00:41:28
somewhere in the Argentine pampas of
00:41:30
a person similar to Ksenia Sobchak, but they
00:41:32
will forget about them and they the order
00:41:35
was carried out Well, you say so, it seems to me that
00:41:37
these are the methods they use in relation to
00:41:40
popular figures, the figure of Ksenia Sobchak.
00:41:43
She is still one of the most
00:41:46
unpopular figures in Russian society. It
00:41:49
seems to me that the more publicly she is
00:41:52
crucified and executed, the higher
00:41:54
the rating of the authorities will be It seems to me that these
00:41:55
all sorts of
00:41:58
non-
00:42:00
necessary public
00:42:02
executions may also be an option, but
00:42:05
most likely
00:42:07
some agents who
00:42:09
get along every day in large numbers will fall under a public decree a little later, and
00:42:12
Ksenia Sobchak due to the fact that she’s just
00:42:14
tired of her somehow they will end up in
00:42:17
some unambiguous method just so
00:42:20
that this is a
00:42:25
bull of time and there are several people
00:42:28
who now seem to themselves to be very
00:42:30
lucky, successful, popular and in
00:42:33
relation to them When
00:42:34
the decision is made, that’s all, then everything will be exactly right and not
00:42:38
so interesting after all, it’s the same not Ivleeva,
00:42:40
who is at least beautiful, Ivleeva,
00:42:42
for example, to burn at the stake. It’s great
00:42:44
because when beauty
00:42:47
writhes in agony like that, it’s a little
00:42:49
more interesting, but Ksenia Sobchak, who is
00:42:52
becoming
00:42:53
less and less attractive every moment, she doesn’t
00:42:56
deserve so much attention
00:42:58
to give it to her somehow quietly in the basement
00:43:00
so that no one would see it
00:43:02
was just Sobchak and no
00:43:04
Sobchak Well, let’s not introduce sexism here,
00:43:08
for my taste I’ll say right away that one girl is both
00:43:10
smart and pretty and I’m very sorry
00:43:13
that she is on the black side
00:43:15
strength, so I really hope that it won’t
00:43:18
come to any executions, that she will come to
00:43:21
her senses and go over to the side of good.
00:43:24
Although, of course,
00:43:27
I think that this kind of people They will
00:43:29
cling to some illusions and
00:43:32
spin until the last moment Until a
00:43:34
man with a gun actually comes to them,
00:43:36
which is a pity Well, let’s move on, it’s a
00:43:42
very interesting topic, I’m very
00:43:45
closely following what’s
00:43:48
happening with the
00:43:51
movement of relatives of Mobilio
00:43:55
Poto over the last six months, there’s been
00:43:57
some kind of evolution, there’s been an evolution in the
00:43:59
movement of his views and approaches,
00:44:02
there’s an evolution in the attitude of the authorities towards
00:44:04
all this, and now the
00:44:08
authorities have started interesting tactics to apply somewhere at the end of
00:44:11
January, we are there all the time on the air and
00:44:14
you and I talked about this on the air that it
00:44:16
is not profitable for the authorities to directly
00:44:19
disperse these women themselves. Well, somehow, that
00:44:22
is, it can have a very negative
00:44:26
effect in society Well, that’s it - after all, the husbands there
00:44:28
are fighting there, like heroes, that is, they are on the
00:44:31
Russian side, they are not talking about the Ukrainian ones
00:44:33
at all, they don’t say anywhere that
00:44:36
Russia should die and fall apart, it seems
00:44:38
like they are speaking from a patriotic
00:44:40
position, and plus the girls.
00:44:43
Yes, that means dispersing them with batons like - that’s not
00:44:46
comme il faut. Well, at the end of January,
00:44:49
such tactics were used to disperse
00:44:51
journalists. That is, there was an
00:44:54
action, which means this whole movement in
00:44:58
Moscow, in the end Amon arrived, none of the
00:45:02
wives were tied up. But they tied up all the
00:45:04
journalists who came to cover this action,
00:45:06
although they were there, which means they were wearing
00:45:09
vests this is the press, yes, that is, with
00:45:11
IDs there, well, that is, as everything
00:45:13
is supposed to be, nevertheless, all the journalists were
00:45:15
purposefully taken away, which means
00:45:17
they continued to hold rallies there. But on
00:45:22
Saturday there was a rally in
00:45:23
Yaka
00:45:27
and there were actually
00:45:30
full-fledged arrests there. Let's
00:45:32
see you, someone mobilized no We
00:45:36
decided to
00:45:39
support relatives of military
00:45:45
age So So Wait, they
00:45:48
took one of them But this is generally ugly so we
00:45:51
need to
00:45:54
disperse
00:45:56
Well, as you can see, there is something
00:45:59
strange there because the arrest
00:46:02
was carried out by people in civilian clothes, that is, they
00:46:04
decided after all the picture means
00:46:06
riot police Cosmonauts with batons
00:46:12
knocking down the eshniki and in
00:46:15
total five people were detained There are five
00:46:19
people at this action Well, what do you
00:46:23
think is the future of this movement?
00:46:26
You already asked this question on our
00:46:28
last joint broadcast. This is due to the fact
00:46:30
that the attitude of the authorities is changing
00:46:33
will there be political
00:46:36
radicalization there or maybe, on the contrary,
00:46:37
under this forceful
00:46:40
pressure they will fade away and disperse
00:46:43
They will exist for another month as a phenomenon
00:46:46
after the elections After that, we will no longer hear about them
00:46:48
We remember how in the frame under
00:46:51
the cameras they beat Old people for monetizing
00:46:54
benefits this It was in completely
00:46:56
vegetarian times, but the authorities divided the
00:46:59
money and had absolutely no idea what kind of
00:47:01
picture accompanies this phenomenon,
00:47:03
so Veterans in orders and grandmothers on
00:47:06
crutches carried their faces on the asphalt by the
00:47:08
same astronauts. And these same
00:47:11
wives of the mobilized They show that
00:47:12
the power is at least in something - then but they are not right, this is
00:47:15
unacceptable and they, as a phenomenon, are given very little
00:47:19
if they themselves do not disperse. They will
00:47:23
disperse because they will receive sentences; if
00:47:26
they heed the work of the local police officers who will
00:47:28
come to them with a warning with a black
00:47:30
mark for the last time, then everything will
00:47:32
calmly come to nothing for them so be it
00:47:35
forgiven, it’s not those who signed for
00:47:38
Nadezhdino and left their passport
00:47:41
details on the voting sheets. Steppe’s
00:47:43
retribution will be more severe, and these people
00:47:46
will be allowed to wait at home for
00:47:49
their husbands. Well, if it’s God’s will.
00:47:52
Although the year has been won. Consider that no you
00:47:57
Well, there is an interesting forecast of yours. That is,
00:48:00
you think they will wait until the elections and
00:48:03
then
00:48:04
the Doge, of course, of course they are Who are they
00:48:08
trying to manage at least something in this
00:48:10
state they are trying to influence the
00:48:12
government they are trying to push it to
00:48:14
some kind of decision they make people draw
00:48:16
attention to themselves to doubt the
00:48:18
correctness and impeccability of the state of
00:48:21
things in the country and they thereby
00:48:23
show the rest of the country that something
00:48:25
somewhere is somehow wrong with some wives,
00:48:28
but in fact all the wives they
00:48:29
courageously hold their heroes Since the war
00:48:31
they are sitting at home, they hope that now
00:48:34
they will tie their socks, they will
00:48:36
thereby support the party and the government and the holy
00:48:38
fight against NATO and this is an absolutely
00:48:40
impeccable unity of communists and
00:48:42
non-party people around the ruling party and then
00:48:44
some wives appear
00:48:46
who speak that no, you know,
00:48:48
let’s do it differently, what does it mean differently, who are
00:48:50
you for the authorities to tell us
00:48:52
differently, that’s why they are exactly
00:48:55
tolerated and then they are canceled, the question is
00:48:57
how harshly if they don’t come to their senses
00:48:59
as harshly as possible if they say in time
00:49:02
Oh so maybe they’ll drive you under a bench and
00:49:04
just leave it there
00:49:07
alone interesting forecast Well, there’s not much
00:49:10
time left to watch it I
00:49:12
think that it definitely has a
00:49:15
right to exist, I don’t rule it out
00:49:18
Although of
00:49:20
course I would probably
00:49:23
do
00:49:27
it
00:49:28
more gradually if I were the authorities Let’s
00:49:31
discuss the last political topic it means
00:49:34
these political autosho continue,
00:49:36
primarily in the Russian
00:49:38
opposition,
00:49:39
of course. So after the loss of
00:49:42
Nadezhda. Although he was initially
00:49:45
hopeless, that is, someone had this
00:49:48
Nadezhda. And now here it is. T is
00:49:52
lost; he has already filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court
00:49:56
due to inadmissibility to the elections, which means
00:49:58
going to present the certificates of
00:50:00
those citizens who signed for him
00:50:02
from the city of Rostov on
00:50:05
the House means to say that here
00:50:09
they are, in fact, I can
00:50:10
say how I myself collected signatures as a politician
00:50:12
and who was also not
00:50:13
registered because of the signatures, but the Chukchi
00:50:16
was smart therefore I had
00:50:19
nominations from the party in reserve, understanding that I wanted to
00:50:21
go there, which means Somo is moving from the signature of
00:50:24
citizens to be not bound by any
00:50:27
political force of obligations, but
00:50:29
I understood that most likely, that is, they would
00:50:30
not be allowed to do this, and I turned out to be right. I know
00:50:32
that you can reject any
00:50:34
signatures. no courts work after that,
00:50:36
but nevertheless, he
00:50:38
continues something like this
00:50:40
and Vladimir Solovyov is well-known.
00:50:44
Well, he directly thanked Boris
00:50:46
Nadezhdin for compiling a list of
00:50:50
200,000 unreliable enemies of the people,
00:50:53
let’s see this, we
00:50:55
must publicly thank
00:50:57
Boris Borisovich from the podium but he handed it over to
00:51:02
the election commission or where the list, as I understand it, of
00:51:06
unreliable agents of influence of enemies of
00:51:10
the people bookmarks tspso
00:51:24
bewilderment Well, this is the American style
00:51:27
because we remember that what
00:51:29
if a person died for such a trifle
00:51:30
to deprive him of the right to vote as long as he was
00:51:32
healthy or
00:51:36
he was that means Well, of course, they know better than
00:51:40
Boris Borisovich, a regular guest who reads their
00:51:43
talk show on Russian television, but
00:51:48
nevertheless, this is a rare case when I
00:51:50
personally agree and
00:51:54
today I listened to the speech of
00:51:57
Fedorkovsky, who said, well, you see, there
00:51:58
were real people there, they
00:52:01
really came they put signatures,
00:52:03
so we saw real queues,
00:52:05
which means, but for all the other people
00:52:07
who seemed to also collect signatures,
00:52:09
including Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, we
00:52:10
didn’t see any queues, and so on,
00:52:13
so it’s clear that this was all drawn and
00:52:15
from this he concluded that Well,
00:52:17
let’s we’ll arrange the same queues Well, at
00:52:20
1200 on the day of
00:52:23
March 17 That’s what you think. It seems to me that
00:52:28
this is the lesson, well, how would it have
00:52:29
been clear from the beginning that Nadezhda wouldn’t have been
00:52:32
registered more precisely, or he
00:52:34
would have been registered if there hadn’t been
00:52:36
this, which means opposition movement But
00:52:38
then he wouldn’t collected E could not
00:52:40
collect signatures It would be a purely
00:52:42
polytechnological project, or if there are
00:52:43
real signatures and a real movement and a real
00:52:45
opposition, then yes, there is obviously a
00:52:47
lack of registration, but it seems to me that
00:52:50
the only thing that the Kremlin in general, the Kremlin, in
00:52:52
principle, needs is to depict
00:52:54
some kind of struggle on these the elections itself and
00:52:57
nothing more useful to him than the queues
00:53:00
at polling stations at 12 noon on
00:53:04
March 17, in fact, it is
00:53:06
impossible to think of and in front of whom the Kremlin should show
00:53:10
such a struggle and such a movement in front of
00:53:12
itself in front of a foreign country that is
00:53:15
about to be attacked and threatened with nuclear
00:53:17
clubs Who is in front of whom is important there is
00:53:21
no such thing, therefore, whatever the
00:53:24
political half of consciousness may be, they are
00:53:27
contraindicated because there must be a
00:53:29
single, completely unified picture of the landscape, all
00:53:31
50 shades of gray, in fact,
00:53:33
one shade of gray is better, and in order to
00:53:37
go out at noon and demonstrate you need to
00:53:41
understand what is important to you, what you don’t
00:53:43
one That is, this is not necessary for politics,
00:53:46
it is necessary for yourself if you
00:53:47
want to find out that in fact you
00:53:50
think the same way as a number of other
00:53:52
people and you are not alone. That’s why you
00:53:54
can go, in principle, of course, to
00:53:57
hold alternative elections - this is
00:53:59
normal political activity
00:54:00
that is outside Russia and inside
00:54:02
Russia It would be good if it took place because
00:54:05
we see that, of course, there is someone
00:54:08
to choose from, there is someone to choose and there is someone
00:54:10
to vote for. But this is absolutely not in the
00:54:12
current conditions of the configuration of power, but
00:54:14
here is a very interesting situation with
00:54:16
Nadezhda himself who is filing some lawsuits
00:54:18
because the hopes for his brilliant
00:54:21
political career that lasted his entire
00:54:23
life only now have at least
00:54:26
some recognition and attention
00:54:28
because before that Nadezhdin was a nobody at all and
00:54:30
when Nadezhdin tried to give an interview
00:54:32
to Tsovoy everyone passed him by as if
00:54:34
past the absolute closet and said
00:54:36
What kind of piece of furniture is this and this is the
00:54:38
candidate of hope Oh well And after
00:54:40
Dontsov’s when he, as Dontsov’s deputy,
00:54:42
tried to seize the initiative And we
00:54:45
began to reassure him with his last name, then
00:54:47
I found out that it turns out he has
00:54:48
political potential and now
00:54:50
trying get out of the game Nicely, he
00:54:53
really wants to become a politician for the first time in
00:54:55
his entire thirty-year
00:54:57
political biography. That is,
00:54:59
now they finally told him you’re a politician,
00:55:02
go ahead, try and he went to
00:55:04
try. This has nothing to
00:55:05
do with us, with the elections and with the president.
00:55:08
his special case when a man was
00:55:10
just very lucky Because they pulled him off the
00:55:12
shelf and said you
00:55:13
’ll be playing a presidential candidate here for a whole month I
00:55:15
understood I understood the salary then based on the
00:55:18
results I went to work off and for us of
00:55:21
course it was a very important moment
00:55:23
when it suddenly became clear
00:55:25
how much this country is It’s amazing how many of these
00:55:28
people are not Karai, but they are the Armed Forces, they still have their own
00:55:32
point of view, and still in this country,
00:55:35
even 200,000 are a huge number of
00:55:38
people who disagree, who think
00:55:41
differently and for whom it was very important to
00:55:43
demonstrate this, they
00:55:45
came in line to appear publicly in the power of your
00:55:47
reckless courage can even feel
00:55:50
the same
00:55:54
as
00:55:58
Well, regarding the hopelessness of
00:56:00
the country, while you and I are talking, they sent me here.
00:56:03
So on
00:56:06
the computer there is news that is not actively
00:56:09
news, that is, rather a meme or
00:56:12
something that has been actively discussed over the
00:56:14
last few days on social networks,
00:56:18
which means two young morons in Altai, made
00:56:21
of snow, the male genital organ laid
00:56:25
it here in front of the memorial,
00:56:28
uh, it means anti-war to Soviet
00:56:31
soldiers,
00:56:33
uh, they tied them up, they're going to punish them. Well, it
00:56:37
means everything is the same as always,
00:56:39
lately there have been a large number of cases
00:56:42
related to discrediting the uh army and
00:56:47
with such there it means insults to
00:56:49
patriotic feelings, but I remember a
00:56:51
similar action that took place about 10 years ago,
00:56:55
more than 15 years ago in St. Petersburg, where
00:57:00
artists from the war group on the Liteiny
00:57:03
Bridge in St. Petersburg painted a
00:57:05
penis, and since that means the
00:57:08
Liteiny Bridge is one of the bridges that is
00:57:10
being raised, then accordingly there, in the night, the
00:57:13
dick got up, which means it all happened
00:57:16
in front of the FSB building,
00:57:20
so the action was called dick in captivity of the
00:57:23
FSB, that is, it was in an explicit form. This is
00:57:26
all
00:57:27
shown by the Russian repressive body,
00:57:30
one of the authors of this action was Pyotr
00:57:33
Verzilov, who is now fighting at the front
00:57:36
against Putin’s army in the
00:57:39
composition of the whole, nevertheless, then
00:57:42
they gave for this action, yes, here is a photo Thanks to
00:57:46
our directors Date they gave a
00:57:48
state prize for this How is it not
00:57:51
funny, and now, here, the shares of the
00:57:56
VPO can possibly be given a
00:57:58
term That's what you
00:58:01
think the meaning of this is this
00:58:05
photograph, yes, that is, there was something in my head,
00:58:07
that is, whatever they were, it was
00:58:10
anti-war or about military history,
00:58:13
or it was just generally thoughtless
00:58:16
hooliganism that should not be paid
00:58:20
attention to,
00:58:23
in principle there is little left, probably
00:58:26
the only social group is this
00:58:28
Gopniks Gopniks somewhere something sometimes
00:58:31
happens that Gopniks are for justice
00:58:34
sometimes it happens that Gopniks are against the general
00:58:37
trends but they are not exactly as smart
00:58:42
as they are effective, then they will
00:58:44
appear somewhere on TikTok When, for
00:58:46
example, they hit the face of a hidden camera for
00:58:49
photo and video recording of car violations
00:58:52
due to speeding then they
00:58:54
burn it somewhere, they can, for example,
00:58:56
throw a Molotov bottle at the military registration and enlistment office.
00:58:57
Well, it’s just not
00:58:59
because they are against something or for
00:59:01
something, but because they are gopniks and
00:59:03
of course. Probably each case is
00:59:05
individual, but in general a Hero of our
00:59:08
time in Russia - this is a gopnik and he has a
00:59:11
very wide range of
00:59:14
actions. Well, we have the main gopnik in
00:59:17
the Kremlin, uh, what is he writing about in his new book,
00:59:21
which was recently published? Viktor Erofeev, I
00:59:25
don’t know, I haven’t read it, but that is,
00:59:27
we talked to him, he told us what was
00:59:29
there will Therefore, I am sure that all our
00:59:31
viewers should read it, I highly
00:59:34
recommend it And you, too, thank you
00:59:36
very much for this conversation Unfortunately,
00:59:37
our time is over, but we will continue to
00:59:40
watch this power of the gopniks in the
00:59:42
future Sergei Aslanyan was on the air the morning of
00:59:45
February
00:59:46
[music]
00:59:48
Thank you

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