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[Music]00:00:25
eminem aka slim shape00:00:27
aka marshall bruce mathis iii00:00:32
he is a survivor00:00:34
rap star00:00:35
father00:00:36
actor00:00:37
felon00:00:38
media mogul00:00:40
the voice of a generation00:00:42
he has emerged as raps most contra00:00:44
controversial performance storyteller00:00:47
an artist whose provocative imagery and00:00:49
dark rhymes have resonated with00:00:51
america's increasingly disenfranchised00:00:54
youth and whose multiple personas have00:00:56
enchanted and hypnotized audiences00:00:59
worldwide00:01:01
born into a broken home he has drawn00:01:04
deeply from the well of his own life00:01:06
which provides the fuel for his vision00:01:08
and artistic will00:01:12
his lyrics are his life his legend00:01:15
his alter ego00:01:17
and his therapy00:01:18
to understand his music we must first00:01:21
understand his life in the world he grew00:01:23
up in00:01:25
[Music]00:01:30
[Music]00:01:41
i was born in highland kansas00:01:43
and my mother left my father00:01:46
when i was probably about00:01:48
nine months old and brought me to saint00:01:51
joseph missouri and left me with my00:01:53
abusive alcoholic grandmother00:01:56
st joseph's missouri00:01:57
is a quiet working class town00:02:00
it is a town marshall's grandmother00:02:02
betty grew up in a town his mother00:02:04
debbie grew up in00:02:06
a place tarnished with the effects of00:02:07
alcoholism abuse and instability00:02:14
the challenges in marshall's family life00:02:16
would be set in motion long before his00:02:18
birth00:02:19
the residual effects of generations of00:02:21
abuse was passed on by his00:02:23
great-grandmother even as she lay dying00:02:26
she died a hell of a death at 9300:02:28
and i was so glad and she called for me00:02:30
on her deathbed and i told her i said00:02:33
you know00:02:34
i'm glad you're dying and she says can00:02:36
you forgive me and i says no i can't00:02:37
forgive you the way you beat and abused00:02:39
a little child a little child an00:02:41
innocent child00:02:43
i said you know you're going to hell00:02:44
don't you00:02:45
and she looked up at me and i said god00:02:48
help you00:02:49
despite the years of abuse betty dreamt00:02:51
of a better life00:02:53
well as a young girl i wanted to just be00:02:55
a mother i wanted a great big family you00:02:58
know i was going to uh have this house00:03:00
with a white picket fence like everybody00:03:02
has women00:03:04
and i was just gonna be so good to my00:03:06
children bake for them and you know just00:03:08
love them to death but when everything00:03:10
went wrong and i married mr nelson i was00:03:13
14.00:03:14
soon after a young marriage betty gave00:03:16
birth to the first of several children00:03:18
debbie marshall's mother00:03:21
oh debbie was so tiny i was embarrassed00:03:24
i was being so young i had a hard labor00:03:26
and my daughter weighed probably about00:03:28
four pounds if you were to do a drawing00:03:30
of the mathers nelson family relations00:03:33
are like we look like cats in a bag this00:03:36
is a clan00:03:37
it's hard scrabble00:03:39
country folk00:03:41
who are close to each other00:03:44
except when they're fighting each other00:03:46
she could not wait to have a baby00:03:47
brother not long after a baby brother00:03:49
arrived betty realized debbie was00:03:52
unwilling to share the attention of her00:03:53
mother put him down for a nap one time00:03:56
so i walked into the bedroom and she's00:03:57
got her father's ranch big wrench just00:04:00
about to hit him in the head i had to00:04:02
watch debbie from then on continuously00:04:05
betty's marriage ended and the children00:04:06
had a succession of would-be stepfathers00:04:09
i cannot remember a time00:04:11
ever when there was not a man in the00:04:13
house never really got close to my00:04:15
stepdads they were pretty much00:04:17
alcoholics00:04:20
there was a lot of drama you know00:04:22
growing up in our family there was a lot00:04:23
of police called i was sexually00:04:25
assaulted by00:04:27
my one step dad when i was 12 he didn't00:04:30
get the job complete because he was00:04:32
arrested00:04:33
i remember my mother coming home and00:04:36
the police taking him out00:04:39
and her telling me you better hope i can00:04:40
get him out of jail i don't believe you00:04:42
i ran away it's like i'm not facing him00:04:44
if you get him out of jail i'm not00:04:46
telling him i'm sorry because i'm not00:04:48
sorry because of something he did she00:04:50
wanted to get out of the house so bad00:04:52
debbie debbie just was tired00:04:54
debbie searched for a way out00:04:56
one day she thought she finally found it00:04:58
in a quiet boy who lived on a block and00:05:00
played in a local band00:05:02
marshall bruce mathers ii he met bruce00:05:07
and he was my knight in shining armor00:05:09
not even when i was 14. debbie comes in00:05:11
from school about she says bruce and i00:05:13
are getting married tell her bruce yeah00:05:15
he says i love debbie and debbie loves00:05:17
me and we're getting married00:05:20
debbie and marshall bruce mathers ii00:05:22
were married in 1970. a marriage debbie00:05:25
hope would take her away from the00:05:26
troubles of home00:05:29
it wasn't that00:05:31
i didn't want to be around my brothers00:05:32
and sisters anymore just i wanted my own00:05:34
life i wanted my own child00:05:37
and i wanted to get away from all that00:05:39
the next thing i know she finally got00:05:40
pregnant i was pregnant with ronnie when00:05:42
she got pregnant00:05:44
on october 17 197200:05:46
debbie gave birth to marshall bruce00:05:48
mathers iii it was just in heaven i mean00:05:52
it's like this is a child you know it's00:05:54
going to have everything00:05:56
he's not going to want for anything he's00:05:58
going to be so sheltered still also00:05:59
protected he's going to be the best00:06:01
mother in the world and i made a promise00:06:03
with god alcohol00:06:05
the drugs the drinking the pot all any00:06:07
of that stuff they would never go00:06:09
through that the fighting00:06:12
none of us00:06:13
finally happy with our own family debbie00:06:15
left for north dakota where bruce would00:06:17
take over his father's job in a hotel00:06:20
the couple made their home in the00:06:22
basement of bruce's parents house00:06:24
debbie said that things began to get bad00:06:27
she'd go down the coffee shop of the00:06:28
hotel and bruce would be playing around00:06:30
with the girls naturally she'd be00:06:32
jealous you tell her take the kid and go00:06:33
home she had a lot of lonely time on her00:06:35
hands and then he began to beat the heck00:06:37
out of her00:06:40
marshall bruce mathers second00:06:43
was a knife thrower00:06:44
he threw knives00:06:48
you used to always like to see how close00:06:49
he could get to your foot without00:06:50
hitting it and i remember her calling me00:06:52
and saying that um00:06:54
she's coming home she left uh on a train00:06:58
when he was maybe one or two years old00:07:00
just she says he took the clothes he was00:07:02
wearing they got on a train they headed00:07:03
for st joe00:07:05
i think that was sort of the beginning00:07:06
of what was going to be many many moves00:07:08
throughout his life00:07:10
debbie running again from abuse and the00:07:12
effects of alcoholism left bruce and00:07:14
returned home to saint joseph with00:07:16
marshall00:07:17
his dad never wanted anything to do with00:07:19
him00:07:20
marshall tried to contact him debbie00:07:22
tried to contact him he went to00:07:23
california00:07:25
and we never was seen again00:07:27
bruce mathers then disappeared from his00:07:29
son's life forever00:07:31
like betty his grandmother and debbie00:07:33
his mother marshall now was caught in00:07:35
the same cycle of parental abandonment00:07:39
marshall would never know his father00:07:41
but he would never forget him00:07:43
[Music]00:07:54
when we first left his dad and moved00:07:56
back to missouri i lived in one room00:07:59
efficiency apartment00:08:00
[Music]00:08:02
debbie tried to make ends meet bouncing00:08:04
from job to job and house to house00:08:07
always trying to make a better life for00:08:08
a child00:08:10
not realizing the effects such constant00:08:12
change would have on him00:08:14
debbie and marshall moved back and forth00:08:16
from st joseph missouri to the detroit00:08:18
area as many as 20 times in his00:08:20
childhood00:08:23
we did move around a lot but it was00:08:25
always to better ourselves00:08:27
because i could not stay with my birth00:08:28
mother00:08:30
at all i mean we were there a couple of00:08:31
days and that was00:08:33
like an eternity00:08:34
and every time it would be like i'd rent00:08:36
a house00:08:37
it'd sell it right out from under00:08:38
wondering00:08:40
debbie00:08:41
may have tried her best and most parents00:08:44
do trying your best though doesn't mean00:08:46
that that's exactly what your child00:08:48
needs00:08:52
soon debbie and her mother began a clash00:08:54
on how to raise marshall00:08:57
i don't think he was an angry child i00:08:58
think he just got his feelings hurt a00:09:00
lot00:09:01
and i think his mother controlled him a00:09:03
lot00:09:06
he was a very big mama's boy marshall00:09:08
was a loner he did not really want to00:09:10
get out and play with other kids00:09:13
i had to kind of coax him00:09:15
he wanted to be with mommy all the time00:09:17
he never could speak up for himself but00:09:19
you just go pout and go color his color00:09:21
books you know or go get on his bean bag00:09:23
and just watch tv kind of like a whoop00:09:26
puppy in a corner you know just go back00:09:28
to my corner he had a disruption in00:09:31
attachment early on in that his father00:09:33
left him there are people like his uncle00:09:34
todd who00:09:36
may be the closest to00:09:38
a consistent00:09:40
father figure you know i was a protector00:09:43
you know and i would take him fishing or00:09:44
try to teach him what a man was supposed00:09:46
to be00:09:47
i'd get on him about homosexuality to00:09:49
make sure he knew that you know boys go00:09:51
with girls and you know vice versa and00:09:54
you know things like that they moved00:09:56
around a lot00:09:57
so00:09:58
he didn't have a lot of stability00:10:01
so those are some of the early things00:10:03
that may have begun to make him think is00:10:05
the world a trustworthy place is it okay00:10:10
in the middle of the chaos young00:10:12
marshall began to find expression in00:10:14
music00:10:17
marsha was surrounded 24 7 with music00:10:20
while he was in my stomach i would say00:10:21
to him you know and take the speakers00:10:24
and put all through the house00:10:25
and the rooms we just always sit against00:10:27
the wall and just be like he'd hung to00:10:29
himself00:10:30
and just bounce back and forth00:10:34
constantly00:10:36
bounced off the backseat of the car the00:10:38
couch if there's music playing he did00:10:39
this the teachers would tell me this kid00:10:41
is [ __ ] you know he's bouncing in00:10:43
his doubts00:10:44
he has to sit still00:10:46
he likes this all the time he's dry00:10:48
hyper and had to have him on riddling00:10:51
and he'd keep going like this and keep00:10:52
going like this00:10:54
he bounced off the back of the seat the00:10:55
first00:10:56
eight years of his life rocked to the00:10:59
music00:11:02
growing older marshall will find escape00:11:04
in the fantastical world of superheroes00:11:07
and comic books00:11:09
he was wanting to act out cartoon00:11:11
characters00:11:12
and so i would love him you could open00:11:15
the door in his room he'd have castle00:11:17
grey skull going okay he'd have his00:11:19
cartoons on he'd have whatever he wanted00:11:20
but he he entertained himself a lot he00:11:23
was all he had for years he liked it00:11:25
that way i mean you know he played with00:11:27
friends but he liked you know00:11:29
entertaining himself and creating his00:11:30
own little world he was into batman and00:11:32
he was batman so everywhere we went with00:11:35
them he had to wear that outfit now most00:11:38
kids they'll go yeah batman and jump off00:11:40
or something but he had the lines down00:11:41
he had the moves down a lot of times00:11:43
kids when they feel like their external00:11:46
world is impoverished or they feel00:11:48
neglected they need to feel big and00:11:50
powerful and strong and they can feel00:11:52
big and powerful and strong by00:11:54
associating with x-men by associating00:11:57
with batman and superman because they00:11:59
have super powers then so it really00:12:01
helps them feel like okay maybe i'm not00:12:04
so small maybe i'm not being as abused00:12:07
as much maybe the world can be okay00:12:09
because i can be he-man00:12:12
marshall's blossoming artistic abilities00:12:15
provided a quiet retreat from the chaos00:12:17
of his surroundings00:12:20
marshall loved to draw and get into a00:12:22
lot of arguments and squabbles with00:12:24
teachers saying he did not draw this00:12:26
free-handed00:12:27
so i would say to them okay well00:12:30
let's have him draw something sit down00:12:32
and draw telling what you'd like him to00:12:33
draw00:12:34
because he could draw anything debbie00:12:36
and marshall continued to move with00:12:38
marshall changing schools as often as00:12:40
every two or three months00:12:43
he was always a new kid and if he did00:12:45
return to some place he'd been before he00:12:47
was usually behind and so those kids00:12:49
didn't know him from before so he's00:12:50
always starting over somewhere00:12:52
he talks a lot about about this nomadic00:12:55
upbringing in his music this sort of00:12:57
peripatetic life where he's jumping from00:12:58
one place to the other00:13:01
[Music]00:13:03
ronnie betty's son debbie's brother was00:13:06
only two months older than marshall00:13:09
while betty and debbie clashed on how to00:13:11
raise them00:13:12
the two boys were continually bond00:13:15
their little carriers sit side by side00:13:17
and they'd make their little baby talk00:13:19
goose you know and uh00:13:21
there was a bonding already there00:13:23
when they were together you should have00:13:24
seen them i mean you couldn't really00:13:25
tell two apart and they both had the00:13:27
same color hair about the same height00:13:29
and when they talk they sound00:13:31
just about the same i encouraged them00:13:33
too to laugh and dance and be happy the00:13:36
two of them are quite a team00:13:38
i did not want my mother00:13:40
around marshall and00:13:42
that was just me i had to be there00:13:44
marshall had been told so many lies00:13:46
i didn't trust her around him and the00:13:48
dysfunction the yelling the screaming00:13:50
the fighting any drinking that my00:13:53
stepdads could have been doing00:13:55
i didn't want him subjected to it didn't00:13:57
get too much time together as he started00:13:58
getting older david we kept pulling00:14:00
marshall to michigan00:14:02
and ronnie to missouri00:14:04
as marshall approached the end of his00:14:06
grade school years00:14:07
debbie and marshall was settled00:14:09
permanently in the detroit area a city00:14:11
still reeling from the race riots and00:14:13
major destruction only a few years00:14:15
earlier00:14:16
[Music]00:14:20
there were a lot of tensions at that00:14:21
time a lot of racial tension the city00:14:23
was in such chaos00:14:25
that the national guard was mobilized00:14:31
in the streets of detroit a racial war00:14:33
zone have been created by the 67 riots00:14:36
marshall will find himself in the middle00:14:38
of all of it they always lived in00:14:40
neighborhoods barely a step above the00:14:42
ghetto and in detroit marshall00:14:45
consistently found himself one of the00:14:47
few white kids in predominantly black00:14:49
schools the neighborhood eminem grew up00:14:52
in is particularly interesting because00:14:54
there are still houses there and people00:14:56
still live in them but they're just00:14:57
across the street from the suburbs what00:14:59
you end up with there is a neighborhood00:15:02
where people have sort of filled in the00:15:05
gaps it's almost like00:15:08
hermit crabs you know they found a shell00:15:10
that suited them they could afford they00:15:12
moved in there and they finally became00:15:14
homeowners and just across the street00:15:16
not too far00:15:17
away from there the people who moved out00:15:19
who feel like they didn't move out they00:15:21
didn't make a choice they were driven00:15:23
out and so there's a lot of bitterness and00:15:25
there's a lot of tension that that eight00:15:27
mile divide00:15:28
as a nine-year-old at dort elementary in00:15:30
roseville michigan00:15:32
marshall was bullied for months by an00:15:34
older student named deangelo bailey00:15:37
these beatens came to a head in january00:15:39
198200:15:41
when barely cornered marshall in a00:15:43
restroom and floored him with a snowball00:15:45
pack with a heavy object00:15:48
no one reported him missing from class00:15:50
and he was found unconscious and00:15:52
bleeding hours later it was a nightmare00:15:54
when my son did not come out of school00:15:56
and the school denied it they'd do that00:15:58
and they denied anything about my baby00:16:00
laying in a pool of blood in the00:16:01
bathroom and i found them00:16:03
laying there and running out to my van00:16:05
with them with00:16:06
you know the teachers and principals you00:16:08
know we had a skeletal crew we didn't00:16:10
notice him missing00:16:11
no one knew how long he'd been there00:16:14
um my main concern was00:16:16
to get him you know medical treatment00:16:18
and00:16:20
because he was when i when i found my00:16:21
son he was in the floor00:16:23
and he was having a seizure00:16:28
the attack left marshall in a coma for00:16:30
10 days00:16:32
i went in and begged god to spare my son00:16:35
i was an only child00:16:36
and told him if there was anything ever00:16:38
i did wrong in my life to take me00:16:41
not my child they told me they gave up00:16:43
on my son four doctors00:16:45
or four in four days 21 doctors00:16:49
once awake from the coma00:16:50
marshall's recovery would be long00:16:53
having to relearn all his basic motor00:16:55
functions he also suffered from00:16:57
headaches loss of vision and hearing00:17:00
nightmares and nausea00:17:02
my medical bills were in excess of over00:17:04
150 00000:17:06
i had to quit my job to take care of him00:17:10
and i mean it just00:17:12
it was overwhelming anytime you have any00:17:14
kind of head injury it can be00:17:16
life-changing so when you have an injury00:17:18
to the brain the effects can be really00:17:20
long-lasting00:17:21
i had a patient many years ago who had a00:17:24
head injury was meek and mild before00:17:26
turned very angry and aggressive00:17:28
afterwards it took a year for martial00:17:31
back i did work with him every day00:17:34
teaching him how to tie his shoes00:17:36
he had become almost like00:17:39
an infant00:17:40
with the medications they had him on00:17:43
the dumpy cane and dilating low pressure00:17:47
i did not when i gave him the medication00:17:49
i seen00:17:50
a zombie and i did not want him zombied00:17:53
out i didn't believe in it00:17:55
so the medication was gonna go00:17:59
[Music]00:18:22
it comes from my my grandmother's side00:18:24
she wrapped all of her life she called00:18:26
it rhyming00:18:27
and she said when she was a little girl00:18:29
in alabama growing up she remembers her00:18:31
mama working the fields cotton fields00:18:33
you know whites work right alongside the00:18:35
blacks and cotton fields00:18:36
and they used to rhyme songs00:18:39
and make up things as they went to pass00:18:41
the time00:18:42
marshall's father was in a band00:18:44
and00:18:45
then when we went back to williston00:18:47
uh he was in a band somewhat00:18:50
at the state line club and then i was in00:18:52
a band we went back to missouri00:18:55
which was called it was run the00:18:57
satellites and daddy warbucks which i00:18:59
had sung a little bit of backup i play00:19:02
guitar i play piano i write00:19:04
marshall he loved music um his first00:19:07
concert was the talking heads ronnie00:19:09
played drums00:19:11
and marshall tried his hand at drums too00:19:14
ronnie was artistic but not near like my00:19:16
grandson marshall ronnie was always i00:19:18
mean when he was little i got him toy00:19:19
drums and little boom box they call him00:19:22
and he'd turn it up full blast and boy00:19:24
he just danced all the time00:19:26
eminem's uncle ronnie who was about the00:19:28
same age as eminem is given a lot of00:19:31
credit for00:19:32
for sort of infecting him with the rap00:19:34
bug00:19:35
in 198100:19:37
ronnie played a song for martial that00:19:39
would change his life00:19:40
it was reckless a song featuring iced00:19:43
tea from the soundtrack to the movie00:19:45
breaking00:19:46
it was the first rap song marshall heard00:19:48
he took the tape from his uncle ronnie00:19:50
and played it over and over and over00:19:53
he started breakdancing in the london00:19:55
missouri and had me hold a sign up that00:19:57
he made a great big cardboard sign00:19:59
around my neck and said break dancing 2500:20:02
cents to watch00:20:04
and i mean this kid could spin on his00:20:05
head for hours it's like you know you00:20:07
gotta wear your head out00:20:10
i can remember him sitting in his room00:20:12
for hours00:20:14
basically he'd sit there and play the00:20:16
same beats over and over and over and00:20:18
right he would wake me up like at three00:20:20
o'clock i'm like mom is this a word does00:20:21
this rhyme he's like just please help me00:20:22
find it so we get the dictionary out yes00:20:25
it's a word00:20:26
you know and what's the definition of it00:20:28
and him and my brother ronnie would do00:20:30
stupid tapes together and00:20:32
act you know like00:20:35
they were00:20:36
performing in front of people00:20:38
so when you got into music it was like00:20:40
his natural sense of rhythm came right00:20:42
into his play with his stuff the two of00:20:44
them i can just see them here become00:20:46
ronnie with a speaker from this side and00:20:48
marshall from this side meeting in the00:20:49
front00:20:50
they were going to be big singers and00:20:52
rappers the two of them they were going00:20:53
to go far away and they were going to be00:20:55
in movie pictures with the rapping00:20:57
and singing00:20:58
i mean i can just00:21:00
i just see them and sometimes i see them00:21:01
and you know it's wonderful and other00:21:03
times i break down and cry marshall's00:21:05
ice-t influence would need to stay00:21:08
strong to pull him through some serious00:21:10
life changes00:21:11
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the latest in the line of foster kids00:21:27
debbie mathers had taken in00:21:29
kimberly scott into marshall's life in00:21:31
1988 when she was just 13.00:21:34
i was on call for the state of michigan00:21:37
every weekend for kids that were dropped00:21:39
off at the welfare department pickup00:21:41
marshall was very jealous of the case00:21:44
he uh00:21:45
he would sit in a circle and talk if00:21:47
anybody had a problem here to discuss it00:21:50
and he'd jump up and run out because00:21:52
he'd be like well you like them more00:21:53
than me and it's like no come here i'd00:21:56
have to go after00:21:58
but he was00:22:00
he was a it was like i want mom to00:22:02
myself00:22:03
or not at all kim's stepfather didn't00:22:06
want her mama said she had to go so kim00:22:08
was staying anywhere she could and i00:22:10
remember going to michigan and i said00:22:12
teddy what do you got here well mom now00:22:14
don't say them to her i've got a00:22:15
daughter now debbie never had any little00:22:17
girls she took her home cleaned her up00:22:20
and was so happy to have a girl kim soon00:22:22
settled into the mathis household00:22:25
with debbie dotting on her every move00:22:27
kim was very spoiled too because i00:22:29
always wanted a daughter00:22:31
it was tough trying to juggle everything00:22:32
around i tried to give him as much as00:22:35
ever as much as marshall00:22:37
or anybody else she was very insecure00:22:40
and she'd been through a lot when she00:22:42
was younger she did not know her little00:22:44
father00:22:45
kim was uh real tight-lipped didn't have00:22:47
much to say him became jealous whenever00:22:50
debbie would be on the couch kim would00:22:52
have to crawl in between you they fought00:22:54
like brothers and sisters you'd never00:22:55
believe that they was ever going to00:22:56
become innocently you know get together00:22:59
when you went up to marshall's room he00:23:01
had the whole upstairs to himself they00:23:02
were always you know in00:23:04
resting together00:23:06
okay i thought marshall wasn't doing too00:23:08
bad in the beginning you know00:23:10
she was kind of cute00:23:11
debbie said one day she came home and00:23:14
they were playing around so she ordered00:23:16
him out00:23:17
and marshall said i'm going to so they00:23:20
left they walked down on debbie and00:23:22
debbie couldn't stand that and then00:23:23
they're like we're boyfriend and00:23:25
girlfriend now and00:23:27
you know kim told me ha ha all the time00:23:29
we were and you just didn't even know it00:23:31
but i don't believe that00:23:33
she helped him00:23:34
in the beginning establish this manhood00:23:37
and know who he was and debbie was00:23:39
jealous of the relationship she tried to00:23:41
break them up a lot of times and it00:23:42
worked they would fight then when the00:23:45
minute they got in a fight debbie would00:23:46
add00:23:47
fuel to that flame00:23:48
she solves a lot of problems when it got00:23:50
way out of hand i don't know debbie00:23:51
didn't want that but you know she wanted00:23:53
just enough to keep him away so she had00:23:55
a marshal to herself he got kicked out00:23:57
of his mom's he came and started00:24:00
sleeping at our house couchsurfing when00:24:02
he first moved in00:24:04
his mom had this big green boat00:24:07
he could hear it like coming halfway00:24:09
down the street and he'd be like rack00:24:11
rack rack if my mom comes up to the door00:24:14
i don't live here why don't you want to00:24:16
talk to your mom your mom is like oh she00:24:18
screwed up blah blah she'd come driving00:24:21
by real slow he'd be up in the00:24:23
the visor peeking out looking out like00:24:25
like what is she doing and she come up00:24:28
to the door is marshall live here and we00:24:30
were like no00:24:32
who marshall00:24:34
byron williams is eminem's former00:24:36
bodyguard and friend kim is his mother00:24:40
reincarnated that's his mother all over00:24:42
again man00:24:43
the mental abuse he took from her all00:24:46
the hitting she would hit him00:24:48
i watched her take her high heels off00:24:50
and beat the kid in the head with her00:24:51
shoes i mean and he didn't want to hit00:24:53
her back so he'd punch his car or punch00:24:55
me00:24:57
she has the potential to be a nice00:24:58
person man i just haven't seen that side00:25:00
of her yet you know but00:25:03
she shoved me twice00:25:05
every day if they didn't fight it wasn't00:25:07
normal you know it was like they00:25:09
constantly were at each other's backs a00:25:11
lot of times she was very moody um you00:25:14
know i wouldn't let him do a lot of00:25:16
things00:25:17
and stuff00:25:18
and like i said she whenever he'd have00:25:20
something big going on she'd screw it up00:25:24
they were00:25:26
probably like i don't know dr jekyll00:25:29
meets mr hyde00:25:31
relationship you know00:25:33
it could turn00:25:35
quick00:25:36
and it could ride out she's also sort of00:25:38
uh00:25:40
like home for him00:25:42
she knew him when00:25:44
nobody else did00:25:46
when he was suffering when he was trying00:25:48
to trying to climb when he was00:25:51
just not sure that it was worth it00:25:54
i'm in my room getting ready to go to00:25:56
bed00:25:57
and uh kim comes over00:25:59
i hear him out in the kitchen and00:26:01
they're yelling at each other and all of00:26:03
a sudden i hear chairs moving on the00:26:06
floor and sounds like they're going at00:26:08
it00:26:09
and i'm like thinking to myself oh my00:26:11
god what's going on you know so i jump00:26:13
out of my room and she's just beating on00:26:15
him he's not swinging you know i'm just00:26:17
like in total shock oh my god you know00:26:20
she's beating them up00:26:24
living a life with repeated violence and00:26:26
abuse marshall will continue to be00:26:28
tested00:26:32
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a few months before that summer00:26:59
and my little brother looked at me and00:27:00
said seth look what i have and i'm00:27:03
thinking well this is nice because he00:27:06
opens the closet and shows me all these00:27:07
quotes00:27:08
and he turns to me and says00:27:11
this is material00:27:12
you know what i'm missing and i said00:27:14
what honey he said love i have no love00:27:16
there's no love here00:27:18
this00:27:24
on december 14 199100:27:27
ronnie pokenharn killed himself with a00:27:29
gunshot to the head00:27:32
ronnie was despondent over a breakup00:27:34
with a girlfriend00:27:35
distraught over ronnie's death00:27:37
marshall did not attend his funeral00:27:39
betty videotaped her son's funeral and00:27:42
mailed the copy to marshall the bitter00:27:44
feud between betty and her daughter00:27:46
still confuses what the possible00:27:48
intention of the tape may have been00:27:51
[Music]00:27:53
he's really been bitter about that it00:27:54
just starts the the organ music and it's00:27:57
the you know obituary you know they say00:27:59
and00:28:00
it just shows him in the casket there00:28:02
because it was open casket and all the00:28:04
flowers and all i thought you've never00:28:05
been to his food or you need to deal00:28:06
with it you know this is reality00:28:09
but he said i tried to kill him when he00:28:11
got the tape and the pictures he00:28:13
collapsed he said i was not trying to00:28:14
hurt him when i was told that she sent00:28:17
him a video00:28:19
i really don't think that he really00:28:20
thought too much of it because he00:28:22
considers a source00:28:24
my daughter lied to him and she said00:28:26
ronnie would be alive today but you00:28:28
didn't you weren't home to take a phone00:28:29
call that ronnie called00:28:31
and asked to speak to marshall00:28:33
and she said marshall wasn't home00:28:36
marshall needs to know ronnie did not00:28:38
call him and the guilt that was put on00:28:41
marshall00:28:42
thinking my god it's my fault with the00:28:44
loss of his uncle and partner marshall00:28:46
would now be left alone to struggle00:28:57
[Music]00:29:10
take00:29:13
[Music]00:29:19
a bad performance in school would make00:29:21
his chances for success even tougher he00:29:24
flunked the ninth grade three times00:29:26
debbie was you know marcia what are you00:29:28
gonna do what are you gonna do for a00:29:29
living she was really concerned for him00:29:31
because who did he have no one she was00:29:34
scared for the kid's future00:29:36
undeterred by his mother's concerns00:29:38
marshall would begin focusing intently00:29:40
on his and ronnie's dream and develop00:29:43
his skills as a rap artist00:29:45
at the time rap lyrics proclaimed an00:29:48
anti-authority message of racial00:29:51
politics and the realities of life in00:29:53
the ghetto00:29:54
early rap artists such as public enemy00:29:57
ice tea and nwa were beginning to00:30:00
influence and inspire marshall and his00:30:02
crew00:30:04
eminem had decided that he wanted to be00:30:06
a rapper but00:30:08
as a white rapper00:30:09
i mean he really had no role model there00:30:11
was really nobody else out there00:30:13
marshall began making tapes in the00:30:14
basement of his mother's house with00:30:16
deshawn halton a lincoln high school00:30:19
classmate who called himself proof and00:30:22
he did not meet proof toys around00:30:24
probably 18 17 or 18.00:30:27
group was very very respectful very00:30:30
polite miss mathers do you need me to do00:30:32
anything for you or anyone to say please00:30:35
and thank you or the other kids were00:30:36
just like get me this or do that or no00:30:38
i'm not taking out the garbage we were00:30:40
using the basement all the time to00:30:42
practice and scratch records but i found00:30:44
out they were my albums00:30:47
that they used to scratch marshall and00:30:49
proof would come out of the basement00:30:51
with a tape they persistently shop to00:30:53
local record stores including record00:30:55
time run by harry bunner eminem and his00:30:58
crew that he hung out with they were the00:31:00
basement production crew all his cats00:31:02
that he used to hang out with and they'd00:31:04
come in and they'd buy all the new00:31:05
hip-hop to come out it didn't matter who00:31:07
it was if it was something new and cool00:31:09
especially on new york they bought it so00:31:11
all this stuff's coming in and they're00:31:13
buying all this stuff and everything but00:31:14
anytime anybody locally come out they00:31:17
hated him especially marshall marshall's00:31:19
like these guys suck these guys don't00:31:22
have no talent icp who are they they00:31:25
suck then he started getting down on kid00:31:27
rock and stuff and i happen to have a00:31:29
shirt on that day and he's like you like00:31:30
kid rock and everything i'm like yeah i00:31:32
like kid rock i support local hip-hop00:31:35
and he's like well he sucks i go you're00:31:37
telling me all these bands that suck but00:31:39
i haven't heard a damn thing come out of00:31:41
your mouth yet00:31:44
he didn't really make a name for himself00:31:46
until uh it was a kid rock in store that00:31:49
we had he had just released his album on00:31:51
jive records and he just started getting00:31:54
a buzz so there's all these kids are00:31:56
coming in for kid rock stuff and all of00:31:58
a sudden here comes this little skinny00:32:00
little kid with blue eyes i'll challenge00:32:03
you to a rap right now yo you want to00:32:05
battle yo yo yo kind of in kid rock's00:32:07
face everybody's like well who is this00:32:09
[ __ ] oh it's just that uh marshall00:32:12
there's an eminem guy that he calls00:32:13
himself he's just over there rapping he00:32:15
thinks he's going somewhere and all00:32:16
these little you know every other words00:32:18
after this after that everybody was00:32:20
looking around like00:32:22
who is this kid00:32:24
you know he he's coming in the store and00:32:26
bugging kid rock you know you want to00:32:29
battle he's like kid rock don't battle00:32:31
you know kid rock's like you know got00:32:33
his own thing going on he was really00:32:35
cool about it and he said listen00:32:37
he goes today is my day your day may00:32:40
come he goes but this is my in store00:32:42
right now00:32:43
um00:32:44
i've heard some of your stuff and you go00:32:46
way too fast you need to enunciate00:32:49
when you enunciate people understand you00:32:51
then maybe you can have an in-store like00:32:53
me00:32:54
so then he became00:32:55
eminem and that was really when he began00:32:57
to market himself with him you know he00:33:00
learned the art of business he learned00:33:01
the art of networking as well as working00:33:04
on his craft and getting better and00:33:05
better and00:33:06
and00:33:07
in doing that he was able to meet people00:33:11
and get people to listen to him that00:33:13
maybe were outside of his normal circle00:33:16
of detroit which helped him get00:33:18
discovered eminem began to hone his00:33:20
craft in earnest00:33:22
attending open mics and freestyle00:33:24
showcases around detroit00:33:27
however the greatest test of his young00:33:29
life would soon arrive kim got pregnant00:33:32
he came in and he was like wow man i00:33:35
just found out that kim's pregnant and00:33:37
i'm gonna be a dad you know and how am i00:33:39
gonna get a house i got this job barely00:33:42
pays enough00:33:44
hayley jade scott was born christmas day00:33:48
december 25th 1995.00:33:51
i know after haley was born and00:33:53
everything just seemed like it went uh00:33:55
hawking high water00:33:57
the baby was used as a weapon00:33:59
you know against marshall but instead of00:34:02
following the actions of his father and00:34:04
grandfather00:34:05
haley's birth brought a new sense of00:34:07
focus and determination to eminem00:34:10
he was going to succeed where his family00:34:13
had failed00:34:14
marshall loved his daughter he stepped00:34:16
up the plate and i mean he did take care00:34:19
of his daughter00:34:21
eminem viewed fatherhood as a blessing00:34:24
he threw himself into providing for his00:34:26
family while polishing his rap skills00:34:31
[Music]00:34:50
gilbert's lodge is a down-home road00:34:53
house outside of saint claire shores00:34:55
marshall worked at gilbert's on and off00:34:58
for three years00:35:00
gilbert's lodge was probably eminem's00:35:04
mainstay for a while i mean that was his00:35:06
steady gig00:35:07
when uh when the tapes weren't selling00:35:10
when people weren't coming to his gigs00:35:13
he could always count on going back to00:35:15
gilbert's lodge and flipping burgers and00:35:17
from what i'm told he was a pretty good00:35:19
short order cook00:35:21
he would quit there go to a new job for00:35:23
like two weeks and then go back to00:35:25
gilbert then quit again00:35:28
do another job and then go back to00:35:30
gilbert working double shifts for00:35:32
minimum wage gilbert's became more home00:35:35
than home when marshall first started00:35:37
working at gilbert's he used to wear00:35:38
those really baggy baggy pants and i'm00:35:40
looking at him going man pull those00:35:42
pants up buddy how can you work and not00:35:45
trip over them00:35:47
whenever he worked just constantly wrap00:35:49
and wrap and holding his skills when he00:35:51
would get a food order for example he'd00:35:53
start a rhyme based on what the food00:35:55
order was you know he would bring in00:35:56
tapes for people and say listen to this00:35:58
what do you think about this he'd try00:35:59
and get people to come out to his00:36:00
performances and a lot of the people did00:36:02
go i mean they didn't like rap00:36:04
they might be at a rough club somewhere00:36:06
in detroit they wouldn't have gone to00:36:07
otherwise but they liked him and so they00:36:09
would go to show the support very very00:36:11
steely focus that's one thing i'd00:36:13
noticed about him you know he was uh00:36:15
very intense you could see in his eyes00:36:17
everything would just come off the tops00:36:18
of their heads and i just sit there in00:36:20
amazement00:36:21
but yet i'd be going okay where's my00:36:23
cheese balls let's go okay i got people00:36:25
waiting for their food and they're just00:36:27
going on and on and on you know and it00:36:29
they did wonderful it was quite00:36:30
entertaining when he wasn't working at00:36:33
gilbert's lodge he was working on his00:36:35
career00:36:36
marshall would usually00:36:37
write either on a little notebook on the00:36:40
back of a ticket whatever he could write00:36:42
on he would write on if it was his hand00:36:43
or he'd always be writing something down00:36:46
he would go into the zone man00:36:48
it's00:36:50
i can't even explain it and when he00:36:51
would go on the zone he would be00:36:52
completely sober man00:36:54
he would put his little headphones on00:36:56
and he would take his finger like this00:36:59
he would actually00:37:00
write the rhymes00:37:02
in his head and write them out in the00:37:04
air and he would have like most people00:37:06
have like one notepad but you have like00:37:08
five six different pieces of paper it's00:37:10
almost like he sees the world00:37:13
uh in a hall of mirrors00:37:15
and he takes those distorted images and00:37:17
he puts him in his music there was no00:37:19
school of hip-hop where you could walk00:37:22
in and they you know you got to do it00:37:23
like this he would take whole page front00:37:26
and back with just small writing i mean00:37:28
you'd have to get a magnifying glass to00:37:31
actually see what he was writing because00:37:32
he'd write so small he'll write all00:37:34
these words00:37:35
in like three columns00:37:37
and it would go down all these words00:37:38
would rhyme and all the words that00:37:40
didn't completely rhyme with them but he00:37:42
could make him rhyme he would write them00:37:43
in the next column and he would go in00:37:45
and pick each one of these words00:37:47
and like match him up00:37:49
it's like decoding it00:37:51
he'd sit down at the table with a track00:37:53
that he liked he'd play it through and00:37:56
rewind00:37:58
rewind again00:38:00
keep writing keep writing he'll go in00:38:02
the booth and he'll sit there and he'll00:38:03
write and he'll listen to it and he'll00:38:04
have the sounds just blaring00:38:06
it's pretty much like the same sample00:38:09
over and over and over until he get it00:38:10
completely written00:38:12
he's going around to the hip-hop shops00:38:15
all these other places he's getting into00:38:17
these battles downtown i walk out of the00:38:20
step off the steps of saint andrews and00:38:22
it's an alleyway in between saint00:38:24
andrews and this other club and there00:38:26
was a big circle out there i'm like oh00:38:27
man they're about to fight and then i'm00:38:29
like i'll get closer to the circle i'm00:38:31
like nah ah they got a battle going on00:38:33
you know00:38:35
to establish his reputation as a rapper00:38:38
eminem began participating in rap00:38:40
battles at various detroit hip-hop clubs00:38:44
[Music]00:38:47
st andrews hall is a converted church00:38:50
and a popular hip-hop club in downtown00:38:52
detroit00:38:54
the basement is called the shelter one00:38:57
of the most important proving grounds in00:38:59
the city being in the shelter is like00:39:01
being in the basement of your mom's00:39:03
house and you having a big block party00:39:05
everybody that comes in knows everybody00:39:08
music is pumping and the emcees are up00:39:10
there rapping and everybody is attentive00:39:13
to what they're saying hanging on every00:39:15
word that they said00:39:16
eminem would now have to bear out his00:39:18
talents in front of all black audiences00:39:21
like the song lose yourself from the00:39:23
eight mile soundtrack00:39:24
the stage as saint andrews gave eminem00:39:27
his first shot00:39:28
even when m would go up there and you00:39:30
always have the people who just like00:39:32
didn't get into him00:39:34
you still had the other people that00:39:36
really got into him he really had no00:39:38
role model there was really nobody else00:39:40
out there and in detroit at the time00:39:42
there was a place called hip-hop shop00:39:44
saturdays at the hip-hop shop i think00:39:46
they started around 12 noon00:39:49
and00:39:50
proof00:39:51
would usually host and dj head would00:39:54
usually spin the records um i mean it00:39:56
was pretty much based on the audience00:39:58
ruling who00:40:00
who got00:40:01
burned the hardest and who was most00:40:03
triumphant the rap battles were00:40:06
that were deep you know you might dig00:40:08
into somebody's personal life but you00:40:10
know it was whoever could put their00:40:12
lyrics together the best00:40:14
you know and week after week you could00:40:16
tell when somebody went home and they00:40:17
were practicing and they lived and00:40:20
breathed that's the thing about you know00:40:21
going to the rap battles the guys that00:40:23
were rapping were just some guys who00:40:24
decided yesterday that they want to rap00:40:27
and they decided they were going to00:40:28
write some stuff no these guys lived and00:40:30
breathed hip-hop but eminem's early00:40:33
battles were hard fought and never00:40:35
easily won he just come up00:40:38
start rhyming and was done and leave the00:40:40
stage people are like yeah he's really00:40:42
good he was putting like 110 percent in00:40:45
of everything with any rap battle any00:40:48
anywhere he could be noticed he was00:40:50
dedicated he was trying to make it he00:40:52
was trying to explain to kim look you00:40:54
know this could be our big break let me00:40:56
do it she was always had a a word in00:40:59
about him doing that why are you doing00:41:01
this00:41:02
you need to go out and buy your debt you00:41:04
know your daughter diapers00:41:06
teaming up with proof and local detroit00:41:08
producers jeff and mark baz00:41:11
eminent made his first record in two00:41:13
song ep00:41:14
called backstabber00:41:19
backstabber which was00:41:21
inspired by this fight that he had with00:41:23
kim his girlfriend at the time i think00:41:25
that was the first time he really let00:41:26
rip with his emotions00:41:28
on uh recording he took his uh tax money00:41:31
and00:41:32
pressed it up he pressed like00:41:34
500 to a thousand copies song did okay i00:41:37
mean he didn't do00:41:38
massive amounts of numbers i think he00:41:40
sold like00:41:41
200 of them00:41:43
mark kempf was eminem's first manager00:41:46
mark founded underground sounds magazine00:41:49
a national hip-hop publication based in00:41:51
detroit00:41:52
unlike other hip-hop magazines at the00:41:54
time00:41:55
underground sound paid attention to00:41:57
up-and-coming artists especially if they00:41:59
were from the same hometown of detroit00:42:01
my original meeting with eminem was a00:42:03
phone conversation he called00:42:06
ask me how does he submit his tape he's00:42:09
he likes a magazine he's interested in00:42:11
getting some type of coverage in the00:42:12
magazine he sent it to tape i liked it i00:42:15
reviewed it you could hear that there00:42:16
was some talent here you could just00:42:19
hear it that00:42:20
something's got to happen here it's too00:42:21
good not to happen00:42:23
nothing happened he said a lot of people00:42:25
took him as a joke00:42:27
and he went through a lot of reverse00:42:28
racism and proof kind of gave him pretty00:42:30
much00:42:31
the ghetto pass00:42:33
when he first put the tapes out you know00:42:35
people were like eh00:42:37
you know not really feeling it you00:42:39
didn't even finish school now you want00:42:40
to rap you're going to be a white rapper00:42:41
it's not going to work you know00:42:42
everybody from his school from00:42:45
you know guys in the neighborhood the00:42:47
nightclubs people laughed at them00:42:49
[Music]00:42:50
when he was in the suburbs00:42:52
the white kids didn't want to listen to00:42:54
this kid singing black music and when he00:42:56
was in the city the black kids didn't00:42:59
want to hear this white kid playing00:43:00
black music and trying to perform black00:43:02
music somebody at the end of the show he00:43:04
was passing something out and the guy00:43:06
took it00:43:07
said this is a joke throws it out and00:43:10
there's just like some altercation all i00:43:12
saw was this massive amount of people00:43:14
into this little swarm and he's in the00:43:16
middle of it settled everything tempers00:43:18
you know settled down and stuff00:43:20
that's when i knew that there was00:43:21
something else behind this guy that he00:43:22
was very serious about what he wanted to00:43:24
do and he took offense with what people00:43:26
said to him here he did all this work00:43:28
and put all this stuff out and people00:43:30
were throwing the trash you weren't even00:43:31
giving it a listen00:43:33
even through a stormy relationship with00:43:34
kim00:43:35
the continual struggles of raising a00:43:37
daughter and the grind of working a00:43:39
minimum wage job00:43:41
eminem relentlessly pursued his music00:43:43
career00:43:44
working once again with jeff and marky00:43:46
bass the producers who have been00:43:48
mentoring him since he was 15. eminem00:43:50
was able to complete and release his00:43:53
second recording infinite00:43:56
infinite comes out i thought it was a00:43:57
really good album all the way through it00:43:59
was out on cassette it was out on vinyl00:44:02
i remember hearing it listening to it00:44:04
thinking god this guy's really good00:44:07
i walked into this club00:44:09
to see some groups i want to see proof's00:44:10
group 5 ella00:44:12
i wasn't expecting eminem00:44:15
proof was like you heard the new m m00:44:17
stuff i was like no but this dude over00:44:19
there just brought me his new new album00:44:22
i was like i want to meet eminem where's00:44:24
eminem at he was like that dude i was00:44:27
like00:44:28
wait a minute the white dude just00:44:30
brought this up to me that's eminem i00:44:32
was floored because i got that tape and00:44:34
a couple others and00:44:36
that was all i listened to wondered why00:44:38
he was00:44:39
still wrapping in00:44:41
tiny clubs to00:44:42
10 people for local artists getting on00:44:44
the air of hip hop radio station wjlb is00:44:48
a gateway to success in detroit00:44:50
and beyond00:44:51
dj bushman has followed the scene for00:44:53
years hearing all the potential hopefuls00:44:56
he was cool with bushman but bushman00:44:59
didn't have a say of what went on the00:45:00
air again there he had to be black to be00:45:02
on the air and if you weren't then you00:45:04
didn't get it you got tossed aside00:45:06
today's hit music 931 eminem made00:45:08
another important radio connection00:45:10
dj lisa lisa sponsored open mic nights00:45:13
during her program00:45:15
eminem called persistently to audition00:45:17
lisa lisa was impressed with his drive00:45:20
and lyrical expertise so she invited him00:45:22
on00:45:23
he became a station favorite and one of00:45:25
her regulars one of the first couple of00:45:27
raps he did i think it was that he was00:45:29
locked in a psycho ward or something but00:45:30
it was00:45:31
it was almost like a joke it was like a00:45:33
comedy but then you listened to it and00:45:34
it had such a dark undertone when he00:45:37
jumped on the mic he turned all of that00:45:39
anger that he felt in the room teasing00:45:41
him into a strength and he ended up00:45:43
winning i just remember sitting there00:45:45
watching this little blonde white kid00:45:46
like what are you doing how are you00:45:48
turning this around on these guys for me00:45:50
for him being white i didn't care i00:45:52
would listen to it i always try to give00:45:54
any feedback to uh anybody i could about00:45:57
their music00:45:59
though the album made people in the00:46:00
detroit music scene aware of eminem's00:46:03
talent and abilities infinite was a00:46:04
commercial flop00:46:06
eminem and the bass brothers got stuck00:46:08
with the bill he was respected but not00:46:11
respected i think there was more talk00:46:13
behind his back he used to come home00:46:15
discouraged a lot there's days he'd be00:46:17
like man i just want to give this up i00:46:19
want to forget it i'm going to be done00:46:21
with it i'm going to just keep working00:46:24
do what i got to do to get by00:46:26
when he realized he was gonna have to00:46:27
work for a living marshall and and my00:46:30
sister would compete over who had the00:46:32
most pills yeah they would fight over00:46:34
who had the most not who had the pills00:46:36
who had the most pills the black00:46:37
community said no to him he was sort of00:46:40
the white zebra you're not black we00:46:42
don't want you here he was out of place00:46:44
this boy he wanted to die recovering00:46:47
from the commercial failure of infinite00:46:50
the rest of eminem's life was crumbling00:46:52
beneath him00:46:53
he was fired from gilbert's he was00:46:55
constantly fighting with kim and he00:46:57
couldn't support his daughter hayley he00:46:59
was fed up00:47:00
pissed off and at the end of his rope in00:47:03
a moment of desperation00:47:05
clinging to the memory of his uncle00:47:06
ronnie00:47:08
eminem tried to kill himself by00:47:10
swallowing a handful of pills00:47:14
out of the darkness of eminem's suicide00:47:16
attempt came a renewed inspiration00:47:19
to find the voice he would need to00:47:21
succeed as an artist00:47:23
[Music]00:47:44
there's a story that i've been told00:47:46
where he was talking a buddha full of00:47:48
rhymes who's another detroit rapper and00:47:51
he was telling him00:47:53
you know00:47:54
i'm just not getting anywhere with this00:47:56
and so i'm thinking of trying something00:47:58
different we were telling them that he00:47:59
needed a gimmick a image his identity00:48:03
was masked00:48:04
because he didn't know who to be he got00:48:07
fed up his ego totally flipped they00:48:10
don't like the good stuff you know i'm00:48:11
gonna just start screwing around and00:48:13
writing some stuff and said hey i'm00:48:15
gonna start writing the craziest stuff00:48:17
that you could possibly00:48:18
imagine he had this alter ego called00:48:22
slim shady we were just like00:48:24
wow00:48:26
wow he's got a totally different sound00:48:29
it's right when00:48:31
he really started getting looked at00:48:34
mark kemp00:48:35
eminem's first manager arranged for00:48:37
proof and another detroit area rapper00:48:40
named bizarre to attend some meetings00:48:42
with music executives in new york00:48:45
bazaar knew eminem from the detroit rap00:48:48
scene and invited him to go along00:48:50
bizarre played his stuff and eminem00:48:52
played his stuff and00:48:54
i think bizarre told me eminem got a00:48:56
little bit better response i remember00:48:58
when he called me and got my feedback on00:49:01
a new record he was making and00:49:03
he wrapped just the two of us to me00:49:05
blew my mind i was like00:49:08
whoa wow00:49:09
and it was uh the slim shady ep00:49:14
oh my god this is so00:49:17
good00:49:18
murder murder you know went up to00:49:20
eastland shot a policeman when you hear00:49:22
slim shady rapping if you listen to his00:49:24
music00:49:25
it's really distinct of which of the m m00:49:27
tracks and which are the slim shady00:49:29
tracks the slim shady tracks are the00:49:32
harder edge they're the more bitter the00:49:34
more vindictive tracks no longer was he00:49:36
being the kid that was being picked on00:49:39
or bullied or told he wasn't going to00:49:40
match anything that was his dark and00:49:43
evil side00:49:44
that basically was coming out and start00:49:46
saying all these things about different00:49:47
people gay bashing the homophobic stuff00:49:51
lesbians potheads doing drugs anything00:49:56
associated with violence the slim shady00:49:58
ep00:49:59
was released in 1997.00:50:02
when this came out00:50:04
this was no joke i mean with people00:50:06
putting aside infinite stuff because he00:50:07
sounded like somebody else when he did00:50:09
this ep there was00:50:10
slim shady was born00:50:12
and it got a positive response00:50:15
and it allowed him to take out a lot of00:50:17
his frustrations we were getting00:50:18
successes we were selling tapes out of00:50:21
different stores and we were getting00:50:22
shows and we kept selling them getting00:50:24
them and stuff we knew we had something00:50:26
here00:50:27
steady sales of the slim shady ep proved00:50:30
that eminem was ready for the next level00:50:33
scribble jam is an urban arts festival00:50:35
that celebrates the hip-hop lifestyle00:50:38
the annual summer event is a convergence00:50:41
of expiring mc's graffiti artists djs00:50:45
and b-boys00:50:46
even with the forward progress of his00:50:48
music00:50:49
eminem's family life would still remain00:50:51
in a state of turmoil i really had to00:50:53
talk eminem into it i mean he was like00:50:56
i'm broke i was like don't worry about00:50:58
it i'll cover you you should just make00:51:00
some time and go down there he had a00:51:02
show the night before so it was like it00:51:04
was probably 3 8 3 or 4 a.m before we00:51:07
even got on the road to cincinnati slim00:51:09
shady competed at scribble jam in 1997.00:51:13
it was an opportunity for his new00:51:14
persona to showcase his freestyle and00:51:17
battle rap abilities he had been00:51:19
crafting on the streets for a broader00:51:21
audience outside of detroit00:51:23
[Music]00:51:25
inside the trash00:51:26
i'm jacking off the pictures00:51:28
this is a mismatch you probably shipped00:51:36
there were 80 people that entered the mc00:51:38
battle one of them was eminem00:51:44
[Music]00:51:59
he battled his way to number two he lost00:52:01
to a guy named juice00:52:21
[Music]00:52:22
i remember him coming back and telling00:52:24
me that he finished in second place in00:52:26
cincinnati where they kind of had it00:52:27
fixed because the guy from the store won00:52:30
you know there was a few and everybody's00:52:31
like oh that white boy won the white boy00:52:34
won and he lost to this guy and he00:52:36
should have won he was frustrated but he00:52:38
was excited because he knew he should00:52:40
have won but then again finishing second00:52:42
place he just says well i'm just going00:52:43
to do it one step more and no matter00:52:45
where he did or where he worked or00:52:47
whatever he always told everybody he was00:52:48
gonna be a star00:52:50
you just watch00:52:52
while the second place finishes scribble00:52:53
jam y and eminem and slim shady's00:52:56
reputation beyond the streets of detroit00:52:58
there was no immediate financial benefit00:53:02
eminem returned to an empty home00:53:04
kim and haley following the family cycle00:53:07
left him to live with relatives in00:53:08
warren michigan a suburb of detroit00:53:12
the new slim shady went back to the old00:53:14
eminem couchsurfing ways00:53:16
ultimately ending up in a place he had00:53:19
worked for years to avoid here's a guy00:53:21
up until the time he made it when he was00:53:23
in his00:53:24
mid to late 20s he was still in with his00:53:26
mom00:53:27
even when he had a girlfriend and a baby00:53:29
at a music industry conference in00:53:31
detroit mark kempf approached wendy day00:53:34
an influential music industry power00:53:36
broker and gave her the slim shady ep i00:53:39
was like i'm going to give you something00:53:40
i really want you to pay attention to00:53:42
i'm going to give you this tape by this00:53:44
guy eminem00:53:45
he's a white guy00:53:47
but00:53:48
he's going to floor you00:53:50
initially reluctant00:53:52
wendy was won over by his masterful00:53:54
handling of words rhythm and his slim00:53:57
shady persona00:53:59
she was putting together an event with00:54:01
a magazine called rap sheet in l.a she00:54:04
was organizing an event within the event00:54:06
called rap olympics00:54:08
and they would the teams would battle in00:54:10
things such as uh storytelling would be00:54:12
one battle or picking stuff out of a hat00:54:15
she was like i'm putting together this00:54:17
team i want eminem on the team i got thurston00:54:20
howell iii i got juice00:54:22
she wanted m to finish it off i told00:54:24
eminem he should do it she definitely do00:54:26
it she flew him out00:54:28
i got a ticket i flew out00:54:30
at the rap olympics eminem again00:54:32
finished second to the same rapper juice00:54:36
yet the trip to la yielded much more00:54:38
important results00:54:40
when eminem went out to la he was00:54:42
basically someone who had beaten the00:54:43
local talent who had gotten a little bit00:54:46
of a regional reputation00:54:48
but the rap olympics was a chance for00:54:50
him to showcase in a major forum an la00:54:52
based00:54:53
radio station00:54:55
had eminem on the air they really lit up00:54:58
the airwaves eminem dropped some verses00:55:00
that have people's wigs blown back for00:55:02
real i met a guy from interscope i gave00:55:05
him tape everything eminem had worked00:55:07
for00:55:08
the embodiment of his struggles00:55:10
determination perseverance and tears00:55:14
were in that tape00:55:15
the slim shady ep00:55:17
and it was finally in the right hands00:55:19
while eminem's tape was circulating00:55:21
through interscope00:55:22
he made a second appearance on the same00:55:24
la radio show and not only did he do00:55:27
well but he caught the ear of dr dre and00:55:29
dr dre00:55:30
basically by the time he went to detroit00:55:32
was ready to take him to the world dr00:55:35
dre is one of the most influential00:55:36
producers in rap music00:55:38
in 1992 he founded death row records00:55:41
with suge knight00:55:43
he also engineered the careers of snoop00:55:45
dogg and tupac among others00:55:48
shortly after listening to the slim00:55:50
shady ep00:55:51
dr dre signed eminem to a recording deal00:55:54
with his label aftermath records00:55:56
after months of recording the slim shady00:55:59
lp was released by aftermath and00:56:01
interscope records the result was00:56:04
instantaneous when the first single hit00:56:06
from his first album hi my name is00:56:08
become a buzz clip song we had an in00:56:11
store and there was a thousand people00:56:13
here he was just signing finally they00:56:15
come out there and they told them they00:56:16
said look that's all you can sign you're00:56:18
done you've been here for three four00:56:20
hours signing stuff that's when you you00:56:22
found out this wasn't the guy that comes00:56:24
in and talks to you all the time this00:56:25
time you find that guy's going off and00:56:26
we may never see this guy again when00:56:28
eminem first started to make it was you00:56:30
could still see on some of the telephone00:56:32
poles in town or on some of the uh some00:56:34
of the walls near some of the music00:56:35
venues you could still see scraps of an00:56:37
m m poster00:56:39
most of those posters were put up there00:56:41
by eminem himself eminem's fame came00:56:45
like a flash flood it caught a lot of00:56:47
people by surprise even eminem himself00:56:50
the slim shady lp debuted at number00:56:52
three on the billboard charts and would00:56:54
go on to sell one million copies by the00:56:56
end of that year00:56:58
[Music]00:57:15
on june 14 1999 in the wake of eminem's00:57:18
worldwide success as an artist00:57:21
he and kim got married00:57:23
but the relationship remained tumultuous00:57:26
i think with kim he always knows00:57:30
where she's coming from he doesn't00:57:31
always like it00:57:33
but i think that's someone where he00:57:34
feels like she's with me for who i am00:57:38
in july 2000 kim attempted suicide by00:57:41
slashing her wrist00:57:43
kim recovered00:57:45
though a month later the couple was00:57:46
separated00:57:47
they reunited later that year for a few00:57:50
months00:57:51
but on march 1st 2001 they filed for00:57:54
divorce00:57:55
weeks later ken filed a 10 million00:57:58
defamation lawsuit against her husband00:58:01
he probably feels that you know why00:58:03
couldn't i have had a more traditional00:58:05
upbringing and i can understand being00:58:07
upset about that but if he had had a00:58:09
more traditional upbringing we wouldn't00:58:11
have eminem today00:58:13
because that is really the raw fuel for00:58:15
what he is00:58:17
in september 1999 debbie mathis filed a00:58:21
10 million lawsuit against her son for00:58:23
defamation and character00:58:25
the lawsuit cited numerous instances in00:58:28
lyrics and interviews in which marshall00:58:30
described his mother as abusive00:58:33
a drug user and an unfit parent00:58:36
i am who i say i am he says in his music00:58:39
he talks about his mom suing everybody00:58:41
one of the first things i started to do00:58:42
was to check the courthouses and lo and00:58:44
behold00:58:46
going back00:58:47
25 years she's been suing folks00:58:51
as a response to eminem's lyrical00:58:52
criticisms00:58:54
debbie recorded a song called set the00:58:56
record straight with a group called idx00:58:59
the song is available for purchase on00:59:01
the internet for three dollars00:59:05
in 2002 eminem's mother settled a 1000:59:08
million dollar defamation lawsuit00:59:10
against her son for only 25 thousand00:59:12
dollars00:59:13
after considerable legal cause debbie00:59:16
received only00:59:17
hundred dollars00:59:20
though betty has been outspoken about00:59:22
her daughter's lawsuit against her son00:59:25
she too is capitalizing on his fame00:59:27
she is writing a tell-all book about her00:59:30
daughter's relationship with the rap00:59:31
star00:59:34
in 2003 ken was arrested and charged00:59:38
with possession of over 25 grams of00:59:40
cocaine00:59:41
ordered to wear an electronic device she00:59:43
skipped town only to be recaptured and00:59:46
jailed for testing positive for cocaine00:59:48
use00:59:49
marshall fought for joint custody of his00:59:51
daughter hayley and won00:59:53
he continues to play a major part in her00:59:55
life00:59:58
people are on the ins and on the outs at01:00:00
times with him you know depending on01:00:03
on who's01:00:04
feeling cranky that day he's talking a01:00:07
part of the family01:00:08
and he's not talking other parts and01:00:10
they seem to take turns it's almost like01:00:11
a revolving door but there always still01:00:13
seems to be a fairly strong connection01:00:15
to the family01:00:17
eminem has been the target of other01:00:19
lawsuits for more unlikely sources01:00:22
d'angelo bailey the bully who beat01:00:24
marshall into a coma and later became01:00:26
the inspiration for the song brain01:00:28
damage filed a one million dollar01:00:30
defamation lawsuit against eminem in01:00:32
2001.01:00:34
barely a roseville trash collector01:00:37
claims that eminem did permanent damage01:00:39
to his musical career and caused him01:00:41
anger and embarrassment01:00:43
the suit was dismissed by judge deborah01:00:45
savito her written opinion was issued in01:00:48
the form of a 36 line rap song01:00:52
mr belly complains that his breath is01:00:54
trash so he's seeking compensation in01:00:56
the form of cat barely think he's01:00:58
entitled to some monetary gain cause01:01:00
eminem used his name in vain eminem says01:01:04
bailly used to throw him around beat him01:01:06
up into john shove his face in the01:01:07
ground eminem contends that his rap is01:01:10
protected by the rights guaranteed by01:01:12
the first amendment eminem maintains01:01:14
that his story is true and that barely01:01:17
used to be the black and blue an01:01:19
alternative he states that the story is01:01:20
phony and a reasonable person would01:01:22
think it's baloney the courts must01:01:25
always balance the rights of a defendant01:01:27
in one place in a false light if the01:01:29
plaintiff presents no question of fact01:01:32
to dismiss is the only acceptable act if01:01:34
the language uses anything but pleasing01:01:36
it must be highly objectionable to a01:01:38
personal reason even if objectionable01:01:41
and causing offense self is the first01:01:43
lie of defense yet when belly actually01:01:46
spoke to the press what do you think he01:01:48
didn't address those false like charges01:01:51
that's so disturbed prompted from barely01:01:54
not a single01:01:55
so highly objectionable it could not be01:01:58
belly was happy to hear his name on a cd01:02:00
barely also admitted he was a bullying01:02:03
youth which makes what marshall said01:02:04
substantially the truth this doctrine is01:02:07
a defense well known and renders belly01:02:09
case substantially blown the lyrics and01:02:11
stories that no one could take is back01:02:13
then exaggeration of a childish act any01:02:17
reasonable person can see that the lyric01:02:19
could only be hyperbole01:02:21
it is their father's close ultimate01:02:23
position is that eminem is entitled to01:02:25
summary disposition01:02:27
[Music]01:02:30
one of the things about the people who01:02:33
knew eminem when he was just marshall01:02:35
mathers01:02:36
is that there's a genuine affection for01:02:38
him you know neighbors chefs waitresses01:02:40
at gilbert's lodge or the other places01:02:42
he hung out people at record stores01:02:44
people who used to make rhymes and and01:02:47
record their own rap and their own music01:02:49
and beats there isn't this feeling that01:02:52
why him01:02:53
you know i'm as good as he is01:02:56
people seem to genuinely01:02:58
understand and recognize that this was a01:03:00
talent far beyond anything they had when01:03:03
you look at marshall mathers there's the01:03:05
little kid who's still there there's a01:03:08
slim shady who got him to where he is01:03:09
today but then there's eminem who says01:03:12
you know what slim shady isn't real you01:03:15
know let's let's enjoy what he does01:03:17
let's use this to get my demons out but01:03:19
also01:03:20
let's not take it too seriously because01:03:22
if you do you're going to go crazy01:03:24
eminem is the writer slash01:03:27
rapper marshall mathers is the01:03:30
good father01:03:32
but also the person that was picked on01:03:34
as a kid01:03:35
that was bullied01:03:37
eminem and marshall mathers got together01:03:39
and created slim shady01:03:41
who is the bully01:03:43
the hip-hop bully the hip-hop juggernaut01:03:45
to me he's not slim shady he's not him01:03:47
and him01:03:49
he's that little kid i know01:03:52
from the hood01:03:53
marshall is01:03:55
a really good person01:03:57
he's a good father01:03:59
but there's01:04:01
i think to some shady guy is like the01:04:03
evil the evil person that you know01:04:07
that wants to go out and01:04:08
like try all these different things and01:04:11
say i've been there and done that and01:04:14
where the other one is trying to be01:04:15
super daddy and and be sweet and01:04:18
and you know do all these things with01:04:20
the kids and01:04:21
and it's like01:04:23
almost sometimes you feel like you're01:04:24
dealing with a jekyll and hyde he's a01:04:26
very complicated boy01:04:29
eminem has stayed true to the city and01:04:32
friends that nurtured him01:04:33
forming d12 with proof bazaar dj craze01:04:38
mannix and others from his early days01:04:42
one thing i like about em you know01:04:44
whenever you talk about hip-hop or you01:04:45
talk about film you only hear new york01:04:47
and you hear la01:04:49
and em still lives here he keeps things01:04:52
here he shoots videos here and he had01:04:55
the eight mile dvd release party here01:04:56
which was great eminem did two concerts01:04:59
in north america this year and both of01:05:00
them were in detroit if you want to come01:05:02
see me you got to come to detroit might01:05:05
be the only reason then your whole life01:05:06
you've ever said i got to come to01:05:07
detroit but if you want to see eminem01:05:09
you got to come to my hometown two shows01:05:13
sold out the mayor of detroit welcomes01:05:15
him back as a conquering hero even01:05:17
appears in a video that they showed01:05:19
during the performance but when you come01:05:21
home and the people are welcoming you01:05:23
with open arms and and hailing you then01:05:25
uh that's it you know that's the gold01:05:27
standard detroit was here waiting for01:05:30
him and i think anytime he comes back01:05:33
he just has to say when and people are01:05:35
going to come running01:05:37
the slim shady lp sold over 3 million01:05:39
copies01:05:40
the follow-up the marshall mathers lp01:05:43
released in may 2000 became the fastest01:05:46
selling rap album in history it was also01:05:49
the first rap album ever nominated for01:05:51
the album of the year grammy01:05:53
in november 200201:05:56
eminem starred in the box office smash01:05:58
eight mile the title track lose yourself01:06:01
won the academy award for best original01:06:03
song01:06:05
eminem aka slim shady01:06:08
aka marshall bruce mathers the third has01:06:11
no skeletons in his closet01:06:14
instead he has turned his tour minute01:06:16
pass into the world's most lucrative01:06:18
public therapy session01:06:33
out of the ordinary uh he could do crazy01:06:36
stuff man i'm gonna call one time you01:06:37
know a lot of things that he did wasn't01:06:39
funny right away when you look back this01:06:40
guy's crazy man one time we were in san01:06:43
francisco01:06:44
where01:06:45
he's performing and this guy was01:06:47
heckling him on stage and he stops in01:06:49
the middle of the show01:06:51
so he starts heckling the guy back01:06:53
and then this guy's going back and forth01:06:55
next thing i know he jumps off the stage01:06:58
to hit this guy hit the wrong guy01:07:00
so the whole everybody in the whole01:07:02
front row just like mobs eminem and01:07:04
they're just01:07:05
they're beating him down man they're01:07:06
beating something serious man so i'm01:07:08
sitting there looking at this like wow01:07:10
they're gonna kill him so i jump in i01:07:12
jump in i get hit then after i get hit i01:07:14
hit the guy that hit me i forget about01:07:16
eminem the dj jumps in the street team01:07:19
jumps in01:07:21
all these people backstage jump in and01:07:23
we pull him out of the crowd getting01:07:24
back on stage01:07:26
now the whole crowd is about 3 50001:07:28
people everybody want to kill us so i'm01:07:30
trying to get him back i'm trying to get01:07:32
him back uh to the tour bus so we're01:07:33
we're all running we're getting01:07:34
everybody to run back to the tour bus01:07:36
and the tour bus the tour manager stops01:07:37
and say hey01:07:38
you got to finish the show the show must01:07:40
go on like man they're gonna kill us you01:07:42
know they hollering you know f you slam01:07:44
f you slam so he comes back out01:07:48
and uh he does uh just don't give a you01:07:50
know and and performs that and the crowd01:07:52
just go nuts man but that next morning01:07:54
man everybody had black eyes01:07:57
swollen jaws busted noses01:08:00
you know and he lived for that man i got01:08:02
a call the next morning from my mom was01:08:03
like you know don't you let the little01:08:05
white boy get you in trouble01:08:07
i said i'm gonna try to do what i care01:08:09
man i don't know how she found out but01:08:11
she knew about it you know we just01:08:13
always did crazy stuff man um01:08:16
so unpredictable man you know i think01:08:19
that's probably one of the coolest01:08:20
things about him man01:08:23
when eminem was just marshall mathers he01:08:26
could barely afford to shop at kmart and01:08:29
now he owns a house that was owned by01:08:31
the ceo of kmart01:08:35
when eminem went out to la he was01:08:37
basically someone who had beaten the01:08:38
local talent who had gotten a little bit01:08:41
of a regional reputation01:08:43
but the rap olympics was a chance for01:08:44
him to showcase in a major forum and01:08:47
based on his performance out there01:08:50
he um yeah let me let me say that again01:08:53
what did i say before about that he did01:08:55
some good [ __ ]01:08:56
and dre dug it01:08:58
out i'm outtie um okay01:09:02
he came over for mother's day she was so01:09:05
happy with the bouquet of flowers he01:09:07
bought her for mother's day it was the01:09:09
biggest most beautiful she's i said01:09:11
debbie that must have cost 200 oh my god01:09:12
no that must be 500 it must have cost01:09:15
60001:09:16
i mean and she was taken care of and it01:09:17
was getting all brutal01:09:19
two weeks after mother's day the01:09:21
arrangement's still sitting there oh01:09:22
what be careful my flowers look how01:09:24
beautiful that is and haley made her a01:09:26
picture01:09:27
she had painted you know happy uh01:09:30
mother's day grandmother and it was it01:09:32
had a big house on it with a sunshine01:09:34
and you know a typical little girl01:09:36
and it was a beautiful picture it was01:09:37
real big about like this she still01:09:39
hasn't she took it off the wall though01:09:41
and01:09:42
it's really neat01:09:45
how about this long neck do i need a01:09:47
jacket no you know you really actually01:09:49
look like god01:09:51
i don't want to look like her no in a01:09:52
good way audrey hepburn was fleshed out01:09:56
with more womanly features01:09:58
well i was told i looked like a reba01:10:00
mcintyre for years01:10:03
for years i was her01:10:06
it's one of those things man you can't01:10:08
wait to see what he's gonna do next it's01:10:09
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