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начало разбора
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реклама
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блестящая идея Кевина Файги
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Говард Старк и его мечта
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Тони Старк и его отношения с отцом
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Тони Старк и его страх отцовства
20:24
Морган - не первый ребёнок Тони и Пеппер
28:00
значение семьи для мстителей
32:31
как Морган делает Тони самым сильным мстителем
39:31
тема отцовства в прочих фильмах "Саги"
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война и смерть это нормально?
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[music]
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I On
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April 14, 2008, the
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cinema of the Marvel universe burst into cinemas around the world. On
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this day, the premiere of the first
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film about Iron Man took place. One of
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its key features was the
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post-credits scene in which Nick Fury
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comes to Tony Stark’s house to
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discuss the Avengers’ initiatives with him. so the
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creators of the film asked the audience if
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you are ready for the start of the most
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ambitious series in history, the episodes
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of which will last
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at least two hours between episodes,
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which can sometimes take more than a year,
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each fragment of which will become
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both a self-sufficient
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work of art and part of a
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single large-scale story, Mr. Stark from
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afar, part of the huge universe
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and all the films of the infinity saga, that is,
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22 films starting with iron man and
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ending with the avengers the finale is considered
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to be spider man far from home 23
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marvel film is also part of the
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infinity saga but we will not consider it
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in its essence it is vertically
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horizontal of the series and this this means that,
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like any series, KVN within a given
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framework has a general meaning, that is, in this
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story, as in any of its individual parts,
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you can identify one main character,
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wait a minute, I can trace his path between the
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beginning of the plot and its denouement and
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formulate it based on the principles
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of dramaturgy the answer to the question of what
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exactly this story is about is
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the only thing I understand and only I
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have the strength and desire to act.
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The series is more complex from a structural
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point of view than a
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full-length film, however, if
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we consider it as a single
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work, all the same
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principles of dramaturgy that are
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used when writing are applicable to it
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full-length, find out in more detail how the
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writing schemes for TV series differ, here are
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the schemes for writing feature films, for
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example, from the book by Neil Landau, the
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road map of the showrunner. By the way,
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the authors of the series are considered to be the
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showrunners; they are directors and not
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screenwriters. The showrunner is the person
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who, first of all, ensures
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that the narration in the series is not
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fell apart into separate episodes and the
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series itself remained a single work,
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and this applies to both horizontal
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series, there are those in which each next
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episode is a direct
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continuation of the previous ones, and
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vertically, that is, those in which each episode is an
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independent work, an
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independent story,
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as you understand, the showrunner is a person
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with knowledge in a variety of
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areas he easily switches from working
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on the text to evaluating graphics and editing
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solving production production problems,
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communicating with the media and business processes, this
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man is the master of his series, and such a
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also the master of life, the modern world
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it is he who, in my opinion, has the
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brilliant idea to kill everyone unnecessary
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for the main meaning garden of characters at
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the end of the Infinity War, thanks to which the
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viewer has no doubt about
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who in this story is considered the main
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characters, of course, the first cast
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of Avengers, namely Iron Man,
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Captain America, Hulk Thor, Black Widow
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Hawkeye) the premiere of which will take place
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just the other day does not belong to the infinity saga
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and therefore
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I only mentioned these characters today,
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although Clint Barton is almost the
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key piece of this puzzle, but first things
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first, Tony Stark is the man who discovered
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infinity and closed it, and I,
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Iron Man,
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will figure it out in this character in as much
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detail as possible, but let's start not with him, but with his
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father, Howard, Stark Sr. is waiting for me,
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not just a billionaire, a genius,
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playboy and adventurer, he is a true
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patriot of his country, who believes in the principle,
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the world is stronger if you are stupid; the Second
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World War convinced Howard that the
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United States must have the best
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weapons in order to be able to
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strike at the enemy before he manages to
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inflict any damage on the country, because
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he actively participated in all scientific
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experiments, no matter how dubious
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they may seem, the super soldier serum, a
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weapon based on tesseract energy, and the
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Manhattan Project arc reactor and
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so on, modestly speaking, I am the best
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mechanical engineer in this country,
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unlike many other scientists shown in KVN who are
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engaged in science blindly without emphasis on
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how and by whom their research can be
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applied. In the beginning, we all work with
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delight in pure science, then
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egoism of
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obsession turns on. sooner or later you become a
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hostage to ambitions Howard clearly realized
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that his works should first of all
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serve America to be its weapon, I
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repeat, this was dictated by time,
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some call the best weapon the one from
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which you don’t need to shoot, I fundamentally disagree with them,
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I will choose the one that is
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enough to shoot one if so father
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did so america does best
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this is reflected in the opening scene of
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ant man in which hank pym learns of the
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Stark military laboratory's attempts to
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copy his serum howard is aware
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of what he is doing for what
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purpose in trying to convince of the need for
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such a true pacifist pym I am a
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man of science so do science, help
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translate your outstanding discoveries into a
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practical plane, however, it cannot be
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said that Howard Stark produced
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weapons because it sold well,
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that is, for reasons of profit, he helped
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defeat the Nazis and participated in the
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Manhattan project, and the majority, including
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professors from Brown, called him heroes
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or a businessman who made good money from the war
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can be blamed on the son for this sin, but not on the
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father, tell her that in your opinion, the
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latest medical
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technologies or special grains are being developed that will
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end hunger, all this is paid for
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from sales of DNA weapons as soon as
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the need for weapons from the floor as
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soon as his country is no longer threatened by the
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global war stark happened
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numerical research with the help of
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technology all prosperity
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good health and for the first time in
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human history
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the possibility of establishing peace on earth
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his project stark expo was aimed at
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uniting scientists from all over the world to
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improve the lives of all people and not just
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Americans from this we can conclude that
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by providing the United States with weapons containment, he
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was fired up with a new dream of creating a world without
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flags and borders so that these weapons would
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no longer be needed this is the key to the future
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Anton Van to Soviet scientists who fled to the
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USA worked with Starck on exactly such
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projects with clean energy for everyone he
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wanted to start an energy race such
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that it would make the arms race a trifle
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there are two versions of how
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Vanko and Stark quarreled, the first can be called
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official Anton turned out to be a spy, he was
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deported to his homeland when it turned out
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that he gave the council information about
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Howard's inventions, the second is voiced by a
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master of manipulation, Nick Fury, Anton wanted to
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get rich from this, your father
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understood everything and got him deported and when
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the Russians found out that Vanko didn’t
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gain anything, they didn’t float his ass to Siberia
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where he spent the next 20 years with
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vodka persuasion, it’s hard to judge
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which version voiced in the Iron
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Man sequel is true, although one detail that
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at first glance doesn’t seem to
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fit can shed some light on this matter
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in the series Agent Carter it is said that the
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bank worked with Stark already in the forties,
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although in Iron Man 2 it is mentioned
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that he emigrated only in the sixty-
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third Anton Van Cavill was a Soviet
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physicist who fled the United States in
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1963, but already in the 67th he was
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accused of espionage and he was deported, the fact
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is that the bank worked with Stark in 1946, he was
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not a defector; he returned to the USSR
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after the deterioration of relations between the two countries against the
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backdrop of the nuclear race, but in sixty-
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three he allegedly finally
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emigrated. It is permissible to assume that while
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working with Stark in the late forties and
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early fifties, Vanko conveyed
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information to the council including about the
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atomic bomb, thanks to which the USSR quickly
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acquired its own so that in sixty-
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three Stark could find out exactly about this,
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and he invented the story about the greed of Russian Fury
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for Tony in order to properly
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motivate him, as he did in the
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first Avengers with Agent
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Coulson cards, it was Is it in the budget for the fila body
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he never gave you sign them
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these cards they were in Colson’s
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box not in his jacket they needed an incentive
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at least such a theory
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fits into the framework of the above-described
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idea of ​​Howard Start being on the one
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hand a patriot and on the other hand supporters
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globalization of scientific progress, today
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we will take not the next step of
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annihilation itself, but the first step on the path to peace,
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that is, after the end of the war, for the
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governments of the USA and the USSR, the conflict
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continued,
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which was the cause of the quarrel between two outstanding
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patriotic scientists, did you
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knowingly sell military technologies to the enemies of the
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United States, knowingly no how
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as a result, work on the arc reactor on both
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sides of the Atlantic stopped and Stark
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began to dream of a world in which there are no
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patriots of countries, but there are patriots
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of humanity, the city said that the arc
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reactor was only a step to something
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greater, Howard began the construction of
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this world, first of all for his son, this is
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all for
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After all, he didn’t want Stark Jr.
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to follow in his father’s footsteps, but I have a daughter who’s going
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to heaven, so it’s less likely that it will become
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my grief, and for this it was necessary to
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change the conditions in which the child
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grows up, to deprive them of wars and weapons, seeing what was
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happening around Stark hurried and That’s why I did
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n’t spend much time with the baby and so on
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behalf of all Stark Industries, I would
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personally like who, what are you doing there, what
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is it, put it back where you
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got it, where is your mother Maria, let’s
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run, run, run, and in those moments when
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I was nearby I noticed that the boy was growing up
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similar to him, which only convinced the
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businessman and scientist to hurry even more,
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do me a favor, try
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not to burn the house down before Monday, that is, until
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Monday, it’s good that he said he made a
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massive libation into that nonsense, sarcasm
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is commensurate with the potential, if they don’t lie, you
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will become a great man everything what I
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'm talking about Howard Stark's motives is
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literally not mentioned in any KVN film,
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however, the conclusion about this
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can be drawn from the change in
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Tony Stark's relationship with his father, both of the first
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iron men are based on the fact that
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Tony Stark does not remember his real
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father, my father said that the world is stronger
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if you have a club then they can’t
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shoot first and then aim
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understanding loved the father the first picture
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begins with a short immersion in
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history assembled from newspaper
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clippings and archival footage the cut
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talks about the connection between howard and tony starts who
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lost his parents at the
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age of 20 that’s not so and I didn’t feel my
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father’s love for me, I don’t know where you
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get information, only he wasn’t
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my admirer, what do you remember about your father?
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something on which
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it was based, not having previously made conclusions about
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his father, this is a facade, how Howard
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imagined the world and the real Stark
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remained behind the scenes of
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the movie cameras filming him, he loved his son and everything he
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did for him was all for you and
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believed in something not not only will he
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live in a better world, but he will help to
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complete it, I am limited by the technologies of
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my time, but the day will come and you
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will complete the project, I didn’t know Howard
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Stark from newspapers and chronicles, but maybe he was
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that knight without a doubt, as
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his newsreels depicted him, and even with his
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father I wasn’t really familiar with and, but the
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happy day for him was the one when
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he and the woman were on my Internet, that’s not true
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then you clearly knew my father better than
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I did, and this is where the fun begins. The
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first film is dedicated to how Stark
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Jr. renounces his
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father’s legacy. to build something your body
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paraskeva here what kind of conquest is this 2
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phones a photo with his father everything is in the trash,
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it doesn’t seem that his father is a merchant
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of death, having seen what the world has become,
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which was built with the help of
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the weapons he created, he would doubt his
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own greatness I saw how
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American soldiers
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are killed with my weapons, which were created
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to serve them,
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I realized that I
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have become an appendage of the system, thriving in
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its irresponsibility,
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thinking so, he decides to
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stop the production of weapons and begin to
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develop peaceful technologies,
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ethics based on cold thermonuclear
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fusion, my yes, give up this reactor, a fairy tale,
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our publicity stunt in the second film,
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they suddenly learn that
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Howard’s initiative about a scientifically progressive world for
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everyone, which previously seemed like a screen to him, is true; his father, during his lifetime,
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smoothly moved from the thesis weapons are needed
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for defense to the thesis if the world is united,
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there is no one to defend him, that is, both
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motivations for which the tonic was guided by
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the action of being like
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Howard before and not being
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like him at all costs were based on the
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son’s misconception about his father, I’m
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surprised it’s true,
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pay attention to how the
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second iron man ends,
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Natasha gives Fury a report on her
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emotional state Tony Stark, the
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central conclusion of which is the
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idea of ​​​​the inexpediency of
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Iron Man's participation in the Avengers project,
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Tony Stark is not
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recommended, it may seem that the
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barriers to entry are not a row of
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superheroes, Natasha considered him to be him, however,
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if you listen carefully to the dialogue of a certain
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Tony, it will become clear the problem is that Tony has
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sharply changed his attitude to life
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thought about family and found true love
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I have a new engine I have serious
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intentions about and we seem to have a
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stable relationship with her that’s why
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we would like to use you
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only as a consultant and now
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look at the composition and the Avengers one
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of besides Tony, they are burdened with such a
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clear vision of their future, does
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anyone here have a family? Hulk
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cannot have relationships with women, Cap
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suffers from Agent Carter, the theme of Steve's personal
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life, the red line will stitch through the entire
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sequel to the first avenger and even get a little
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hooked into Age of Ultron top is in a
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similar situation in relation to Jane
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Foster, Natasha is frigid and Clint is a
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separate conversation, he will have a family
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within the framework of k in m, but more about that later I don’t have a
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girlfriend here, I’m powerless in two
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films, Tony Stark is turning before our
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eyes from a son without a father to a father without a family
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and The iron man threequel
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focuses our attention on
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this, firstly, Tony protects Pepper, he
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feels a threat looming over her,
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first of all, because of himself, and
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secondly, he does not identify himself to the parents of the
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two monsters who became the
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central antagonists of the
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story told by the film, one of the
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famous said we ourselves give birth to
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our own demons, what did he mean who
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said it, it doesn’t matter, I join and now
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this statement has come from the lips of
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two famous guys at once, while a
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clear parallel is drawn between the
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child for the cause of us by chance as a
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result of a one-night stand and about
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which you can even don’t guess
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about my ansys and
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she’s a nerd crossed paths briefly I hope the
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car isn’t waiting for a 12 year old guy who
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considers me his father he’s thirteen and a
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genius maniacs appeared because of your
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rash actions in the third
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Stark’s companion in the third part
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becomes a boy without a father his mother is
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at work his father left for
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I played with lottery tickets about six years ago, apparently, and
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appreciate how gracefully the transition was made from
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Tony, who doesn’t even think about children, who
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dreams of children through
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little Peter Parker, whom Stark
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saves at his own exhibition, to Kevin
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Feige confirmed that this boy is the
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future Spider-Man, that is, here he is
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the moment of the main character’s turn and it
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is symbolic that it is Peter the orphan who
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will become the first in KVN who will treat the
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start as a father, Stark’s daughter will appear
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after his first son in
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quotes, whom he did not save, will be wiped off the
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face of the earth by denunciation, so
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Tony’s motivation in the finale is still more complex than
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it seems, but we’ll get to that now, and
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so the marvel trilogy about iron man
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is the story of a man overcoming his
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fear of having a child, I hope the car doesn’t
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wait for a 12-year-old boy who considers him not a
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father, between the second and third films of
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this trilogy is located the first part of
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the Avengers and Tony’s panic attacks
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what happens to him is the entire Iron
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Man threequel within the entire infinity saga
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becomes a consequence of the events of this very
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first part of the battle in New York blogs
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residents and I'm just a bug armor however,
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remove the Avengers from the
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Iron Man line of films, consider
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Tony Stark's trilogy as a separate work and
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you will get panic attacks that occur
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every time Tony Stark encounters a
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child, he even
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blames the little boy for his
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attacks right in the frame, I’m silent, I can shut up, you’re
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only doing this on purpose, you
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’ll drive me crazy, and the
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reason why
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Tony is so afraid of having children is again
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his father, understandably, is looking for this
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fruit,
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but his dad was also a husband, not a gift, who is not
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afraid of one of two things: either the child
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will prevent him from working, or work
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will prevent Tony from being a good father because I do
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n’t want to
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lose her too, because this is what
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happened to his relationship with Howard
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then the father was not needed, and the father at that time was
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building a better world for his son and the
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boy never had time to say goodbye to his
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dad, I remembered to rotate, say
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something you didn’t pay, you will regret it,
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I love you,
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simulated what you wanted,
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no one will change what they didn’t We got
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to the airport, whatever I did
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drives the pain into the subcortex, this is a terrible
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tragedy that Tony Stark is going through
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and doesn’t want such a future for his
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child, but how Iron
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Man 3 ends is probably not worth reminding and
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from now on
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I’m a different person, I don’t give up
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work for the sake of my family remember she was almost
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killed so I exploded the suit now knowing
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this the characters of Robert Downey Jr.
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consider him in the Avengers trilogy the
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first film in the series begins with
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the construction of Stark Tower the skyscraper
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symbolizes the joint brainchild of Tony
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Stark and his beloved Pepper Potts
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they treat him like father and
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mother to his child he did all this
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no he did all this without giving up
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fame I ask Stark Tower your child
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the war begins this is not
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immersed in work entrusting and
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raising their common child Pepper
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you have work you have a lot of water at the
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climax Stark remembers the
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skyscraper and understands that he should have
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paid more attention to him, Stark's tower
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turns out to be Loki's main target, it is from
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its top that he summons the chitauri army to the ground, the
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tureen of the building gets a lot of damage
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and after the victory they
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restore it, the war will hook everyone, this is the
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conclusion Stark draws from what happened and in the
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second film he gets up on the path outlined by
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his father, I am doing what is necessary
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to avoid the worst, Ultron was created by
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Stark and Banner by two scientists as a
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system for protecting the earth from external threats, the
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most complex previously non-existent
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technology for peaceful purposes,
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Ultron was supposed to protect the entire planet,
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all of humanity, they will provide a separate part of it with
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indestructible armor, but
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having appeared into the world, artificial
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intelligence analyzed what it should
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protect and came to a conclusion regarding the
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future of the earth, the greatest threat to
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humanity is posed by people themselves, they are
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invaders from the outside, what if
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there is no longer a threat, what if the next bones from outer space are deployed by a bouncer
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on approaching the earth,
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the only threat to the planet
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will come from people this happens
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for exactly the same reason that the
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joint work of Howard
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Stark and Antonov NCO on the arc
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reactor did not work out; the world is divided; the idea of ​​connecting all the
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problems of our world with its
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disunity can also be traced in the
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conflict of the Avengers, who are unable to
00:22:20
defeat not only Ultron, but even the
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twins because Covey Ultron
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pitting us against each other is understandable, the
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fact of
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Tony Stark's paternity over Ultron adds piquancy to the whole story, this
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will break your heart, these two
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are opposed to each other throughout the entire
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film as a father who did not give due
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attention to his son, as a result of which his son
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took the wrong path and a son who hates
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his father I look like Iron
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Man
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Ultron represents exactly what
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Tony Stark in the first Iron Man does
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not fully hear his father and
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misinterprets his motives
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as a result of which he works to destroy the world
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despite the conviction
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that this is only for the world will help about their
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identity, the scarlet witch speaks in plain
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text, Ultron doesn’t see the difference between
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saving and destroying the world, where do you think
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this comes from, some
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call the best weapon the one from which you do
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n’t even need to shoot, I fundamentally disagree with them,
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I’ll choose the one that only needs to be
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shot once so father did so
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america does while the
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iron man trilogy tells the story of a
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man overcoming his fear of
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finding a family, fighting with
00:23:37
internal demons that prevent him
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from growing up and from now on
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I am a different person, the avengers trilogy
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tells the story of a father who
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makes standard parenting mistakes,
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does not pay enough attention to the child,
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becomes for him the wrong
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example and turns out to be not ready
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to protect him I must protect the most
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precious thing that I have for the first time this
00:24:00
idea is heard in the sequel of the Avengers the scarlet
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witch helps in the tone to see a possible
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future in which the entire team of Avengers
00:24:07
dies due to the fact that Stark could
00:24:09
save them but did not save, arguing about the
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feasibility of creating Ultron, Stark
00:24:14
declares about a better world for which he
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strives for this, Rogers notes that
00:24:18
the price of any victory is human lives and
00:24:20
asks the billionaire directly if
00:24:23
he is ready to give his further in the dialogue between Stark and
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Fury, he has no doubt that this is exactly what
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they died nickname at once and with them the whole world
00:24:31
and for me I was not ready, I could not
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save them, it would seem that at the end of the first
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Avengers, Stark was ready to sacrifice
00:24:38
himself for the sake of saving humanity, so
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in this case, Steve Rogers could have doubts,
00:24:43
always the price of victory in
00:24:46
any war is the death of people are you ready to
00:24:49
pay the fact that the first film,
00:24:51
I remind you, is located between the second and
00:24:53
third iron men, people
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or, after all, people between the second and
00:24:59
third iron men, damn it’s also
00:25:01
strange at the moment when Stark has already
00:25:04
made a turn from a bachelor to a
00:25:05
family man but has not yet started a family and the
00:25:08
events The second Avengers unfolds
00:25:10
after the third Iron Man, the period
00:25:13
when they are already trying to have
00:25:15
offspring, the skyscraper Ultron, all these are
00:25:17
symbols of Tony Piper's attempts,
00:25:20
by the way, this is a great place for SPGS,
00:25:23
Tony Stark's line in the first Avenger,
00:25:25
the confrontation begins with such an
00:25:27
interesting scene, in a
00:25:36
word, torment, sorry for the overlay with the
00:25:40
teleprompter I didn’t know that the method
00:25:42
had changed, we didn’t have time to edit at
00:25:45
this moment we understand that the spectrum is something
00:25:48
wrong later in the dialogue with Steve,
00:25:51
it doesn’t lift the veil of secrecy, it’s like,
00:25:54
in general, she’s pregnant, no,
00:25:59
as far as I know, run away, then there’s a
00:26:02
long explanation of the reason discord in the
00:26:04
relationship between pepper and tony, allegedly back at the
00:26:06
end of iron man 3, Tony stark
00:26:08
promised pepper to end his career as a
00:26:11
superhero, but already in the age of ultron he broke his
00:26:14
word to her, which led to bepper’s desire to
00:26:17
break off relations with Tony, however, the
00:26:20
age of ultron is ending so it’s time for me to
00:26:25
follow his example Barton will build a
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farm, maybe no one will blow it up, which personally
00:26:30
tells me something is there is no one to build
00:26:33
this farm with because remembering Barton’s example,
00:26:35
he clearly reminds me of the house itself and about the
00:26:38
family of Hawkeye, his wife and 3 children, that
00:26:41
is, Tony at the end of the age of ultron is coming to
00:26:44
Pepper whittling the kids then what
00:26:47
exactly caused this off-screen
00:26:48
indignation at Piper, especially since at the end of
00:26:50
Spider-Man Homecoming she does
00:26:53
n’t appear like that, some kind of
00:26:57
Tony Stark describes her, by God, why is this phrase
00:27:01
pregnant, yes no, as far as I know, my
00:27:04
guess, which can be called
00:27:06
pepper stretched over the globe, they weren’t
00:27:09
expecting a child somewhere between the third
00:27:11
iron man and the third first
00:27:14
avenger, and at the end of the age of ultron, Tony returned
00:27:18
not only to the checkpoint but also to the unborn
00:27:20
baby, which is actually the
00:27:22
reason for the sharp change in
00:27:26
Tony’s willingness to sacrifice himself for others, but
00:27:28
the event in the law is caused by and the mistress
00:27:31
that the pregnant Pepper experiences behind
00:27:33
the scenes leads to the fact that Iron
00:27:34
Man loses his first-born, Piper
00:27:37
has a miscarriage, emphasized by the
00:27:40
symbolic failure of Tony with Ultron,
00:27:42
and this situation could just become a
00:27:45
good reason for the mentally
00:27:46
traumatized Pepper to break up with Tony has
00:27:48
not yet demonstrated to her with his
00:27:51
relationship with Parker that he is ready
00:27:53
to try again, no other
00:27:55
member of the Avengers team has even dreamed of such a drama
00:27:58
Rogers has no family, Thor has no
00:28:01
family, Hulk has no family, Natasha has
00:28:05
no family, they are all in the
00:28:07
Avengers for a reason when Fury was thinking about whether to
00:28:09
take Iron Man into the squad or not,
00:28:11
he wasn’t thinking about whether it would be bad if
00:28:14
something happened to leave Pepper baby Stark without a
00:28:16
breadwinner, he was thinking about what
00:28:19
choice Tony would make at a critical moment
00:28:21
in favor of humanity or in favor of his
00:28:24
family, I have a new engine there are serious
00:28:27
intentions about and it seems like we have a
00:28:31
stable relationship with her, which is why
00:28:34
we would like to use you
00:28:36
only as a consultant, always
00:28:39
the price of victory in any war is the death of
00:28:41
people, you are ready to pay and I must
00:28:45
protect the most precious thing that I
00:28:46
have they Nick died at once and with them the whole
00:28:49
world and for me I was not ready, I
00:28:52
could not save them and once he does not see the
00:28:56
dead avengers, he understands that
00:28:58
the only reason that could
00:29:00
stop him in his desire to sacrifice
00:29:02
himself for others is his wife and child
00:29:04
before he I would think and fly from a
00:29:06
nuclear missile into the abyss and now something
00:29:08
has changed and here Clint Barton comes to the fore
00:29:10
where Agent Barton is the
00:29:13
Falcon
00:29:15
he is out of here where else is this place
00:29:18
without a clue
00:29:20
well and a home for fans of Marvel comics
00:29:24
as well as for themselves and Avengers, the fact
00:29:26
that Hawkeye has a
00:29:27
full-fledged family was a real
00:29:30
surprise, Yuri made sure even when he
00:29:33
took me into the shield that families were not
00:29:36
mentioned anywhere, at least for the reason that
00:29:39
this contradicts the principles according to
00:29:40
which Fury recruited heroes into the squad,
00:29:43
look carefully at this scene
00:29:45
if you want to take a nap then It’s better now that we
00:29:48
put on a couple more hours, a couple of watches where
00:29:51
you’ll find out, Clint says Tony, you
00:29:54
’ll find out there, it’s not about when they
00:29:57
fly to the house on board NATO won’t know
00:29:59
where they were flying all this time, it’s
00:30:01
about when Stark has children,
00:30:03
he’s all will understand about himself and his principles
00:30:06
why, despite the fact that
00:30:07
Hawkeye has a family, he is in the
00:30:10
Avengers squad, isn’t he afraid of losing
00:30:12
his wife’s children, someone should
00:30:13
put them in their place,
00:30:15
who else but my husband, but I look at these
00:30:20
superhero gods, you can imagine for coffee, but you’re not
00:30:24
needed,
00:30:25
which is much worse, they are crushed, I know,
00:30:29
but we are one team,
00:30:30
very soon our children
00:30:33
will have numerical superiority and I
00:30:37
just want to be careful, to understand his
00:30:41
psychology, you can see my analysis
00:30:43
of the Dark Knight trilogy by Christopher
00:30:45
Nolan, Barton’s example is intended to
00:30:46
demonstrate to Tony Stark the
00:30:48
fallacy of the stereotypical logic for any
00:30:50
superhero, according to which the
00:30:52
hero should not have a family so that enemies
00:30:54
cannot threaten it in order to put
00:30:56
pressure on him, do not do anything that
00:30:59
would matter to me and certainly what I would not do,
00:31:01
Barton at some point came to
00:31:03
understanding a paradoxical at first
00:31:05
glance but absolutely true logic,
00:31:07
a person can
00:31:09
be considered truly strong only when he finds a
00:31:11
family worth fighting for and is
00:31:14
ready to lose it, the most difficult choice
00:31:16
will be made only by the strongest, indirectly Clint
00:31:20
speaks about this to the scarlet witch during the
00:31:21
battle for the copy, no one will do
00:31:24
my job for me, it’s clear whether I’m working
00:31:27
lynch with you, it doesn’t matter who you are and what you
00:31:31
were before, if you leave here in
00:31:33
the fight, you fight to the death, you’ll
00:31:35
stay, I’ll say nothing, the lads will find
00:31:38
you, but if you step outside the threshold,
00:31:40
consider the deputy and soon after this a
00:31:43
scene follows the death of mercury, that is, the
00:31:46
authors, using a specific example,
00:31:47
confirm the thesis voiced by their heroes
00:31:50
and to emphasize what is said in the second
00:31:52
and the Avengers indirectly by the next
00:31:55
film in the second phase of the cinematic universe, Kevin
00:31:57
Feige releases Ant-Man, the story of
00:32:00
Scott Lang, the main value for
00:32:02
whom is his daughter, I
00:32:05
must fall for my daughter By the way, a very important detail,
00:32:07
Clint is ready to sacrifice himself for the sake of
00:32:10
someone else’s child when
00:32:12
his own children are waiting for him at home, remember
00:32:15
this moment, the infinity war and the ending
00:32:17
should be considered as one whole,
00:32:19
especially within the framework of our
00:32:21
reasoning about Tony Stark, having realized after the
00:32:23
events in the coffee and the fundamental
00:32:25
significance family both for himself and for the
00:32:27
Avengers, iron man in the finale of the
00:32:29
trilogy finds a daughter today, outwardly
00:32:32
we have a child and everything is so clear then you
00:32:36
woke up and decided that we were taking, I would like to have
00:32:41
children, I didn’t get this if in the first
00:32:45
two parts of the trilogy and that’s actually
00:32:47
symbolic power character in 3Q or
00:32:49
the Avengers, she becomes literally
00:32:50
Thanas’s threats to erase half of the living
00:32:53
beings in the universe affect
00:32:55
Tony personally, since
00:32:57
his child is among the potential victims; this is the
00:32:58
most successful scenario solution from the point of
00:33:01
view that it makes the
00:33:02
crisis situation of the protagonist even
00:33:05
more tangible than in the same interstellar
00:33:07
where the death of humanity was equal to the death of
00:33:10
his daughter in this case such a
00:33:12
statement is incorrect since
00:33:13
humanity disappears only half of
00:33:16
it can’t be lucky you and I are lucky
00:33:21
if we were planned to destroy all of
00:33:23
humanity by the infinity war to
00:33:25
motivate Tony Stark there would be no
00:33:27
alternative factor namely that
00:33:29
the fact that the threat to Stark’s child was
00:33:31
tangible but not maximum is indicated by the
00:33:33
authors of the tape as a possible reason for the
00:33:35
first defeat of the Avengers, at
00:33:38
least this is what Stark thinks about while
00:33:40
wandering in space with nebula
00:33:42
what
00:33:44
[music]
00:33:47
national saving he did not save Peter
00:33:50
Parker another of his
00:33:52
metaphorical children then that his daughter
00:33:54
survived, by the way, whether she survived,
00:33:56
Stark doesn’t know, I don’t know if you see, I do
00:33:59
n’t even know,
00:34:02
God, only you were alive, it’s luck, and the
00:34:05
fact that Peter didn’t survive, this is a
00:34:07
pattern in which
00:34:10
his Stark’s actions also led, more accurately
00:34:12
defined without actions that are moping around with him saying he
00:34:15
let everyone down but let him down but
00:34:19
again show me who didn’t fail when
00:34:22
Steve comes at the beginning of the finale who doesn’t and
00:34:24
asks for help Stark chooses between
00:34:26
preserving what he has and the
00:34:28
opportunity to return to others what was taken from them
00:34:31
and since he feels
00:34:33
responsible for the fact that the same Barton
00:34:34
lost his entire family, I remind you that it was
00:34:37
Clint who became the one who explained to Stark the full
00:34:39
importance of Anna Stark makes a
00:34:41
decision that is illogical at first glance but
00:34:43
absolutely correct within the framework of logic and is strong
00:34:45
the one who has a family that is ready to
00:34:47
lose but it is unrealistic to help everyone
00:34:50
but it looks like it’s real for you, but I look at
00:34:54
these gods
00:34:56
of superheroes and
00:34:58
think on horseback,
00:35:00
no, you are needed,
00:35:02
which is much more terrible; moreover, the factor of
00:35:06
the sacrifice made by Thanos for the sake of
00:35:08
fulfilling his cherished desire proves
00:35:10
that such logic is wrong
00:35:12
to return what was lost, but it is possible to preserve what you
00:35:15
have at any cost and not fall
00:35:19
with the death of the brave,
00:35:20
it would be good if it doesn’t have the same convex
00:35:23
shape as the scene with the death of Gomorrah, but
00:35:25
going to the final battle it doesn’t
00:35:27
make a similar sacrifice, I had to
00:35:30
die,
00:35:34
she sacrificed herself for the sake of this stone, that’s
00:35:36
by the way why they
00:35:38
are cut out of the finale for some other reason
00:35:40
the scene in which Tony communicates with
00:35:42
his daughter after his death in order to
00:35:45
draw a parallel between the two victims,
00:35:47
they contrast them with each other,
00:35:49
the death of Peter Parker, Tony Stark saw
00:35:52
his own unwillingness to make a
00:35:53
sacrifice to save a child, the price of
00:35:56
victory in any war is always the loss of life, are you
00:36:00
willing to pay they Nick died at once and
00:36:02
with them the whole world and for me I was not ready and
00:36:06
could not save them avi chai you foresaw
00:36:08
once wrote off our behavior he did not
00:36:12
believe again that his daughter survived
00:36:15
nothing more than a coincidence of circumstances and
00:36:17
Stark himself to save her did not
00:36:19
affect iron man in any way, he needed a
00:36:21
second battle against Thanos because in
00:36:23
itself it would have proved to him and his daughter
00:36:26
that he truly loves her and is ready to
00:36:28
give everything for her and I you and
00:36:32
I you 100 thousand we
00:36:37
need more what - once again, more sleep,
00:36:42
not all toys, but you can sleep peacefully,
00:36:49
I wish that you are now
00:36:52
and here is the main fruit of the twist of the
00:36:54
whole story of Iron Man, his father
00:36:57
built an ideal world for his son, but he
00:37:00
himself did not do the same in the name of his
00:37:02
daughter and both did not succeed because
00:37:05
the construction of an ideal world should be
00:37:07
carried out not for the sake of a specific person, but
00:37:09
for the sake of all humanity,
00:37:10
if you erase the boundaries between
00:37:12
states, then between families they
00:37:14
cannot be erased, then he does not realize that
00:37:17
making a sacrifice in favor of his daughter and in
00:37:19
favor of Peter is not must and cannot be
00:37:21
different from each other other people's children
00:37:23
never heard such an expression and now
00:37:25
remember the sacrifice Clint
00:37:27
was ready to make for coffee and before he
00:37:30
died mercury I'm diesel I'm david
00:37:34
[music]
00:37:40
I told you I
00:37:43
'll kill my brother Tony Stark at the very beginning of the
00:37:47
Avengers finale he realizes that he was again
00:37:49
motivated incorrectly and finally
00:37:51
his worldview changes in the right
00:37:53
direction but helping everyone is unrealistic it
00:37:57
seems real for you but I don’t have to
00:38:00
Tony Stark makes his sacrifice for the sake of
00:38:02
humanity and not for the sake of his daughter because the
00:38:05
ideal world to which he strived
00:38:07
is safe without a warrior was supposed to become a
00:38:10
home for everyone and not just for the
00:38:11
Stark heiress, I hope everyone
00:38:14
united, everything returned to normal
00:38:17
and that the planets were restored to
00:38:19
normal and it is very important that at this
00:38:22
moment Morgan is in danger just
00:38:25
like everyone else because then we at the
00:38:28
end of the finale he wants to destroy the entire
00:38:29
planet if paper &
00:38:33
tony’s daughter were only half in danger here, so to speak,
00:38:35
like infinity war, the
00:38:37
nature of tony’s choice would be different, and so
00:38:40
he makes his sacrifice not for his daughter, but
00:38:45
also for his daughter, including the difference is barely
00:38:48
noticeable, but she So, the conclusion that the
00:38:51
Avengers trilogy brings us is
00:38:54
as follows: for the world to become a better place,
00:38:56
it is necessary to take care of each other and not
00:38:58
just loved ones, but this cannot be understood without
00:39:01
finding your own family,
00:39:03
thus challenging the logic of Nick Fury, who
00:39:05
recruited only
00:39:07
those who had nothing to lose into the Avengers team since
00:39:10
only if this condition is met, one
00:39:12
can supposedly be sure that at the right
00:39:14
moment the hero will sacrifice himself for the good of
00:39:16
everyone, no, on the contrary, a person
00:39:18
who has something to lose and something to
00:39:20
sacrifice is more likely to
00:39:22
make a sacrifice for the sake of everyone because he
00:39:24
will have true power the
00:39:26
most difficult choice will be made only by the strongest,
00:39:30
and this theme of nature, fatherhood,
00:39:32
is key in the entire
00:39:34
infinity saga, just look at
00:39:36
what paths other heroes take to its finale,
00:39:39
for example, cake, he is the heir of 1 and the
00:39:43
king of Asgard, the main of the nine worlds,
00:39:45
bears the title all the father, occupying the throne,
00:39:48
one top is endowed not only the power of the
00:39:51
king, but also the responsibility of all the father,
00:39:54
this word itself carries the meaning to which
00:39:56
the story of Tony Stark leads us, all the father is
00:39:58
both the father of Thor and Odin and the father of
00:40:01
everyone else, his throne determines his
00:40:04
philosophy, the readiness to sacrifice himself
00:40:06
in the name of every inhabitant of the nine worlds as
00:40:08
in the name of one’s own child and vice versa,
00:40:10
to sacrifice one’s own child in the name of a great goal
00:40:12
like any other living
00:40:14
being, but how does the cake perceive this,
00:40:17
will they decide to attack his warrior of meetings from
00:40:20
10,000 Angara from the sword and how many of our
00:40:23
people will lay down their heads, only so much
00:40:25
will be needed when one utters words
00:40:27
about the price of victory in the eyes his son, he
00:40:30
is equated to the leader of the dark
00:40:32
elves, Maliki Tu, and in absentia,
00:40:34
this happens for the reason that at
00:40:36
the moment top is in love with Jane Foster,
00:40:38
if he had a choice between the
00:40:40
throne of Asgard and an alliance with a girl, he would have
00:40:43
decided in favor of the second that he
00:40:45
actually does, giving up the throne
00:40:47
for the sake of Jane at the end of the sequel, however, Thor does not
00:40:50
realize that one also
00:40:52
loves his wife and his sons, he sees
00:40:55
that pride 1a is higher than love for family,
00:40:58
which, within the framework of KVN philosophy, is an erroneous
00:41:00
judgment
00:41:01
since responsibility 1a in front of everyone, the
00:41:03
result of love for his wife and children within the
00:41:06
top trilogy, Chris Hemsworth's character
00:41:08
goes from an unworthy heir to
00:41:10
the throne to a worthy ruler of Asgard in the
00:41:12
first film, from a father to the husband of one
00:41:15
particular woman in the second and from being selfish
00:41:17
and unwilling to take
00:41:18
responsibility for the inhabitants all nine
00:41:20
worlds to the leader of the survivors of the highlanders
00:41:23
in the third, that is, before the
00:41:24
infinity war, top still becomes a
00:41:27
father and, like all the fathers, it is he who, in his
00:41:29
opinion, should defeat Thanos, but
00:41:32
bad luck, unlike Tony Stark, he
00:41:35
does not have his own family, an example that
00:41:37
would show him that there is love for each
00:41:40
of his subjects, it is clear that within the framework
00:41:42
of the setting, the failure of Thor in the battle of Stan himself
00:41:44
is justified by others, but within the framework of the general
00:41:47
sense, the defeat is determined by the fact that
00:41:49
none of the Avengers sees the picture as a
00:41:51
whole, while Thanos does and therefore does
00:41:54
not doubt his abilities
00:41:57
always lose bitterly,
00:42:00
fervently believe that you are right and
00:42:04
still play until the
00:42:08
iron man reaches the same
00:42:10
level of understanding that it is us who the avengers are
00:42:12
doomed since he is the only
00:42:14
avenger who has all the components necessary
00:42:16
to solve this formula; the
00:42:18
parallel
00:42:20
drawn between the relationships is also worthy of mention with
00:42:22
Thor and Howard’s relationship with Tony, both
00:42:25
father-son couples personify war, although in
00:42:28
fact they are supporters of peace, and
00:42:30
it is the misunderstanding of the essence of the father’s actions in
00:42:33
each of the plots that leads the main
00:42:35
character to the wrong step. It is curious that
00:42:37
thanks to a detailed analysis of Tony
00:42:39
Stark’s line and comparing it with Thor’s line, we
00:42:42
suddenly we get a non-obvious but
00:42:44
plausible answer to the question why
00:42:45
Hulk usagi infinity was given only
00:42:48
one film. In my subjective opinion, the
00:42:50
Hulk is one of the most interesting
00:42:52
characters in the entire
00:42:54
Marvel cinematic universe from the point of view of conflict, at least for the
00:42:56
reason that he is the only superhero
00:42:58
who does not set high goals for himself.
00:43:01
strives to get rid of his
00:43:03
power, imagine how cool a
00:43:06
movie could turn out about how bainer
00:43:08
finally lost the ability to
00:43:10
turn into the hulk but found himself in
00:43:13
such circumstances
00:43:14
under which he would simply need to
00:43:16
return the green monster to its place,
00:43:19
there is still no such film for me
00:43:21
It seems like a very simple banal reason,
00:43:23
it just doesn't help move the main
00:43:27
idea of ​​the infinity saga about the essence of
00:43:29
fatherhood, both parts of the guardians of the galaxy
00:43:31
are built around the questions of the origin of
00:43:33
peter quill, his relationship with his father, the
00:43:36
exploration of the path planned by his father for
00:43:38
him, black panther, the story of a
00:43:40
boy who unexpectedly knew that his
00:43:42
dad was not This is how everyone imagines him at Christmas time. Spider
00:43:44
-man talks about an
00:43:46
orphan who finds a father in his
00:43:48
idol in Captain Marvel. Carol Danvers
00:43:51
begins to fight against the Thalasso Skrull
00:43:53
and tries to protect his family and the
00:43:55
remnants of his people, then helps him
00:43:58
only in Doctor Strange there is no theme of fathers
00:44:00
and sons and although there is a theme of sacrifice for
00:44:02
everyone, the incredible hulk complements this
00:44:04
chain through the characters of General
00:44:06
Ross's father, Bruce Banner's beloved
00:44:08
Elizabeth Rose, the general convinced Bruce and his
00:44:11
daughter to work on gamma rays, which,
00:44:13
secretly from them, he planned to use
00:44:15
as a weapon after Bruce
00:44:17
turned into the Hulk the general began a
00:44:19
hunt for him with the sole purpose of
00:44:21
getting out of the scientist the fact that he managed
00:44:24
to make a serum that creates unique
00:44:27
super soldiers for this purpose, the general not
00:44:29
only quarrels with Elizabeth, but even at
00:44:31
some point almost sacrifices her to
00:44:33
General Ross, the very Howard Stark of
00:44:35
whom then I didn’t draw my imagination
00:44:37
until the middle of the Iron
00:44:39
Man sequels, it’s not for nothing that a parallel is drawn between roses stark
00:44:41
and both of them
00:44:43
create a super soldier with the wrong hands roses
00:44:45
use banner stark doctor erskine
00:44:47
and it’s not for nothing that experiment 1 captain
00:44:50
america turned out to be more successful than the
00:44:52
experiment of the other hulk this
00:44:54
demonstrates the true the intentions of both
00:44:56
heroes stark was not obsessed with war and
00:44:59
peace and therefore created a moralistic soldier
00:45:01
and the other was obsessed with war and therefore
00:45:03
created evil in the flesh the serum develops
00:45:06
everything inside of it good becomes
00:45:10
great bad terrible the incredible hulk is
00:45:14
needed precisely for this for a kind of
00:45:16
whitewashing of howard stark through comparing
00:45:18
him with a real villain guided
00:45:21
at first glance by the same principles,
00:45:23
I give you my word and the safety of my
00:45:25
main plant, you know, my profession as a
00:45:29
psychiatrist obliges me to recognize
00:45:31
a lie and
00:45:33
lay it out, well, it’s impossible not to note what
00:45:36
moment General Ross returns in the garden
00:45:38
of infinity, it is he who brings
00:45:40
the avenger for Kavinsky the agreement is the one
00:45:43
that destroys the team, given all
00:45:46
its baggage, the big question remains
00:45:48
what exactly is the goal of the authors of
00:45:50
this very act; do they want to protect the world
00:45:53
from the Avengers or do they want to turn the
00:45:55
Avengers into their weapons? General Ross
00:45:58
saved the world by chasing the Hulk or tried to
00:46:01
make him part of his arsenal this is a
00:46:03
very strong hint from the kiwis of alginate
00:46:06
how the infinity saga will ultimately end with
00:46:08
what thought we
00:46:10
can’t prevent the Avengers, but all that remains is to
00:46:13
deal with Captain America
00:46:15
and here everything is as interesting as possible, the key
00:46:18
point in the story of Steve Rogers
00:46:20
is the lack of personal life in it, you do
00:46:23
n’t even know how to talk to
00:46:24
women you 1 Kama said more than two words, Steve’s
00:46:28
physical characteristics affect not only the
00:46:31
attitude of the military towards him, but also the
00:46:33
attitude of women towards him; Bucky
00:46:36
directly tells Steve that his war
00:46:38
should not take place on the battlefields, but
00:46:40
in another place and that you are about to remain the
00:46:42
only young guy New York and
00:46:44
immediately after these words, he takes him on a
00:46:46
double date, later in a conversation with
00:46:48
Agent Carter, Steve notices that
00:46:50
inviting a girl to dance is what
00:46:52
he feared most of all his life and at
00:46:54
some point Rogers simply stopped
00:46:56
thinking about it, you’re no one not asking a
00:46:59
girl to dance was worse than death for me,
00:47:01
and in recent years I have somehow
00:47:05
come to terms with this. In classical
00:47:07
drama, the path of the main character must
00:47:09
pass through obstacles built by the
00:47:11
forces of antagonism, and the main character
00:47:13
must have both qualities that allow him to
00:47:15
overcome these obstacles, since
00:47:17
quality preventing him from overcoming them, and
00:47:19
if you look at the path of Steve Rogers
00:47:21
carefully, it becomes clear that this hero
00:47:24
follows his path from the very beginning and
00:47:25
to the end, not against his will, but
00:47:28
according to it, bugs
00:47:32
and my choice, he was eager to fight and
00:47:34
throughout his entire trilogy he fought he’s
00:47:37
not afraid of war, he craves it, he’s afraid of
00:47:39
peace, or rather relationships with women,
00:47:42
remember in the age of Ultron, the scarlet witch
00:47:44
showed the Avengers what they were afraid of and
00:47:47
look what Cup sees when everyone
00:47:49
else sees suffering and death, war
00:47:52
limbs,
00:47:54
it’s time to go home, but here’s
00:47:58
how Cup responds to its demons in
00:48:02
the dialogue with Tony I don’t trust people without demons I’m
00:48:06
old-fashioned I repent but baby you
00:48:09
haven’t seen it yet again for the first time this is indicated by
00:48:12
another war in which Natasha tries to
00:48:14
bring her fighting friend together with at least someone
00:48:16
every time in the First
00:48:17
Avenger trilogy a conflict arises between Tony
00:48:19
Stark creating weapons for peaceful
00:48:21
purposes and Steve Rogers fighting for
00:48:23
peace, there is a feeling that Rogers is
00:48:26
ideologically charged more correctly than
00:48:28
Stark, however, in the era of Ultron, Steve is
00:48:30
pointed out that he may be wrong
00:48:33
twice in the picture, the thought slips through
00:48:35
what you will do if there is no war -
00:48:37
simple joys you will come to this I
00:48:41
don’t know stability family
00:48:44
the one who dreamed about them and is now in the ice
00:48:47
75 years ago and
00:48:49
someone else got out, in fact, it is not
00:48:52
the restriction of freedoms that forces Rogers to
00:48:55
go against the Starks of confrontations,
00:48:57
namely the reluctance to get a world devoid of
00:49:00
conflicts if a threat hangs over the world
00:49:02
I I don’t stand aside
00:49:05
I would like to I can’t You’re lying You don’t
00:49:08
want to Yes I don’t want Steve is afraid of the appearance of the world
00:49:11
that Howard Stark dreamed of because he doesn’t
00:49:14
know what to do in it at the beginning of another
00:49:16
war, he even admits that the world is
00:49:18
not a familiar place for him but is a bit runny
00:49:24
I got used to returning home after so many years of freezing, but over time the irony is that
00:49:27
being in an incessant state of
00:49:29
war, Steve, putting on the mask
00:49:31
of a moralist, provokes Stark to look for the
00:49:33
answer to the question of his readiness to
00:49:35
sacrifice himself for the sake of others, all
00:49:37
because Roger knows that, unlike
00:49:39
him, Stark has something to lose however, at the
00:49:41
very end of the finale, when Iron
00:49:43
Man still sacrifices himself, Captain
00:49:45
America thinks about
00:49:47
the meaning of life, he sees that victory
00:49:50
has been achieved, peace has reigned, but they don’t feel like a
00:49:52
winner, Steve understands that everything
00:49:54
he strived for did not bring him
00:49:56
real happiness, which means his
00:49:58
conscious desire in the language of
00:50:00
the screenwriter, it was not the core of his story,
00:50:02
it was not through his achievements that the arc of
00:50:05
his character ran, and then Rogers
00:50:07
goes to the only
00:50:09
unfinished war, he flies into the past
00:50:11
to begin such a relationship with Agent
00:50:13
Carter, invite her to a dance and live a
00:50:16
happy life with her as a family man, Captain
00:50:18
America goes to the same path as
00:50:20
iron man, but on the contrary,
00:50:23
gradually turning from a mission into an ordinary husband and
00:50:26
father, he will never be as strong as a
00:50:28
stark, remember their conversation in the first
00:50:30
avengers, a guy in an armored suit,
00:50:32
and
00:50:33
take off who are you without him, I’m not a billionaire
00:50:36
playboy philanthropist, you’re fighting
00:50:39
only for yourself,
00:50:41
you are not one of those who will make a sacrifice, lie
00:50:43
on the barbed wire and even go through yourself to a
00:50:45
friend, you may not be a threat,
00:50:47
but stop pretending to be a hero, a hero like
00:50:50
you, you are a laboratory experiment and Rogers
00:50:54
and all your special prowess comes from a
00:50:56
test tube because it was never the
00:50:59
main thing that made iron
00:51:01
man the strongest of all the avengers,
00:51:04
no less powerful than something of us, a family
00:51:06
that you can, but should not be afraid to
00:51:08
lose for a reason, tony stark, the most
00:51:11
developed of all the
00:51:13
characters that have ever appeared in kvn, the hero of his
00:51:15
development was dedicated to as many as 8 films
00:51:18
of its own trilogy, the Avengers trilogy, the
00:51:21
confrontation which, by the way, was needed
00:51:23
to explain to Stark and the viewer the principle of
00:51:25
death is inevitable and Spider-Man
00:51:27
returning home somewhere did not train
00:51:30
to be a father on Peter Parker, the fact is
00:51:32
that everything with infinity is a conflict between
00:51:34
two strong men two fathers who are ready
00:51:37
to give everything for the sake of world peace, no,
00:51:39
seriously, let’s finally admit that in
00:51:41
terms of Thanos it was great and the grain is
00:51:43
genocide,
00:51:45
but righteous, impartial, I don’t share the
00:51:48
poor rich, if for a second
00:51:50
we imagine that Stark would be in
00:51:52
Thanos’ place, there is no doubt
00:51:54
that he you would have already made a sacrifice like a
00:51:56
titan, smart girl, I told the living Tony, then
00:52:00
no one and everyone who is not dreaming that it is
00:52:03
necessary to surround the planet with an armor shield
00:52:07
it was like that and it doesn’t matter how much
00:52:09
freedom will be trampled on, remember once again that
00:52:12
abortion Ronnie says the scarlet witch Ultron
00:52:14
don’t see the difference between saving and
00:52:16
destroying the world, do
00:52:19
you think where it comes from? The difference
00:52:22
between these two characters is not
00:52:24
that one of them sacrifices
00:52:26
his child for the good and the other himself, it’s
00:52:28
just the circumstances, the
00:52:30
difference is that one is trying to
00:52:32
unite the world in grief and the other is my father
00:52:35
he said that the world is creamy if you have a
00:52:37
cudgel, and the final chord of the whole story is that
00:52:40
Tony Stark renounces world peace; the
00:52:43
idealistic utopian dream of his
00:52:46
father, which he himself dreamed, was based on the
00:52:48
desire to protect those you love at all costs,
00:52:50
but when the realization comes to you
00:52:52
that those whom you love do not
00:52:53
need
00:52:55
the world to change for the sake of their protection, once understanding that their
00:52:57
loss in one way or another is inevitable,
00:52:59
the idea of ​​peace in the world loses all
00:53:02
value; only the time
00:53:04
spent close by the family gains value; one big
00:53:06
grief and everyone in the universe will be happy,
00:53:09
the father is convinced Thanos is that people are not always
00:53:11
happy and sometimes each of us
00:53:13
experiences natural grief, there is no
00:53:15
need to try to change it, convinced father
00:53:18
Tony Stark, the infinity saga is a series
00:53:21
about the inevitability and infinity of the cycle of
00:53:23
life and death and its governing idea
00:53:26
can be formulated as enjoy
00:53:28
the moment and do not be afraid that it will pass
00:53:30
because this is life and this thought,
00:53:33
according to Kevin Feige, is much
00:53:35
brighter than sometimes you need to
00:53:37
sacrifice everything you have for
00:53:40
life to blossom, Tony Stark does not save
00:53:42
humanity, it is doomed, as noted by
00:53:44
Ultron and Vision
00:53:46
and not the reasons before,
00:53:54
but even their fragility wonderful, but
00:53:57
in this doom there is one of the
00:53:59
beauties of our existence, in
00:54:02
fact, if you think about it, the
00:54:04
infinity saga comes exactly
00:54:07
where it begins its journey, Tony Stark
00:54:10
at the beginning thinks about it, justified,
00:54:13
the war feeds, develops technologies that
00:54:15
improve our everyday life, he
00:54:18
answers this question negatively
00:54:20
says no, this is not true and all the following
00:54:22
films tries to prove it, tries to
00:54:24
build a world in which
00:54:27
no one will have to sacrifice anything,
00:54:29
however, in the end, quite suddenly for
00:54:31
himself, he comes to the idea that such
00:54:34
sacrifices are inevitable and since death itself
00:54:36
is inevitable precisely in attempts to give it
00:54:39
meaning people most often fight with each other,
00:54:41
and these battles will inevitably
00:54:44
lead to the death of all humanity, so
00:54:48
if everything is inevitable, what’s the point of
00:54:51
worrying about this, is
00:54:52
n’t it better to just sit down and enjoy
00:54:55
every moment of your life, and this
00:54:58
position is opposed to the logic of than
00:55:01
is a which is desperate clings to life
00:55:03
and tries to prolong it at the cost of gigantic
00:55:09
sacrifices, that is, the infinity saga is not a
00:55:12
positive
00:55:13
statement, as someone might think,
00:55:17
she is quite a fatalist, that’s all,
00:55:21
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Используйте максимальные скидки чёрной пятницы на курсы и профессии — инвестируйте в себя c помощью Нетологии: https://netology.ru/navigation АРХИВ Почему Халку в "Саге бесконечности" уделили лишь один фильм? Почему Таносу не повезло стереть основной состав мстителей? Почему Тони Старка не хотели принимать в ряды мстителей? Почему расстались Тони и Пеппер? Чем Соколиный Глаз сильнее остальных? Почему Танос в итоге проиграл? Почему никто другой не смог бы пожертвовать собой в финале? Обо всём этом в масштабном разборе "Саги бесконечности" от MARVEL. 00:00 - начало разбора 02:31 - реклама 04:07 - блестящая идея Кевина Файги 04:55 - Говард Старк и его мечта 12:05 - Тони Старк и его отношения с отцом 14:57 - Тони Старк и его страх отцовства 20:24 - Морган - не первый ребёнок Тони и Пеппер 28:00 - значение семьи для мстителей 32:31 - как Морган делает Тони самым сильным мстителем 39:31 - тема отцовства в прочих фильмах "Саги" 51:10 - война и смерть это нормально? 54:05 - окончание разбора Наш Instagram - https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Наш Telegram - https://t.me/episodesfilm

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