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forward forward not Vedas and barriers through00:00:19
Whirlwind and Hail and snow and not weather You must00:00:23
save me days and years forward forward00:00:28
Where the eyes dream00:00:32
[music]00:00:35
Good night dear friends night owls00:00:37
We meet once again in the recording of the00:00:40
topic of today's lecture Cormac McCarthy It's00:00:43
clear that Most of the questions00:00:46
are related to the prospects of Yulia Navalnaya00:00:48
as the leader of the opposition, as I00:00:51
understand it, well, you see, it’s scary00:00:54
to think that the last time we00:00:55
met was on the eve of Navalny’s death,00:00:58
this week really00:01:01
marked a New Frontier and it seems that it00:01:04
was a colossally long time ago00:01:06
because after breaking through each successive00:01:09
bottom you somehow begin to not believe that00:01:13
just a week ago this was possible. I00:01:17
’ll read today one poem by a00:01:19
wonderful Moscow poet. I often00:01:21
read it anonymously because I don’t feel comfortable calling it about00:01:24
this very thing00:01:28
yesterday, I’m afraid that00:01:31
we don’t have any special00:01:34
reason for tomorrow either. to believe because the events00:01:37
seem like snowballs and they00:01:39
will change quickly, the pace has become00:01:41
fantastic and it is natural that after00:01:46
Navalny, after what happened and00:01:48
after the completely obvious breaking of a00:01:51
new bottom when the body is not given up, two things00:01:54
emerged with particular clarity, firstly, the00:01:57
mythological background of everything that is00:01:58
happening00:02:01
in in the case of Zelensky, but in the case of00:02:02
Navalny, she frankly doesn’t even00:02:04
need to be identified. Well,00:02:08
including the death on Friday, the disappearance of the00:02:11
body on Sunday, everything is absolutely00:02:15
accurate, as if the Lord is repeating for00:02:18
idiots, everything follows the matrix here. The question00:02:21
is not whether Navalny can be called a00:02:24
figure, does Christ deserve it?00:02:27
he has such analogies, the question is that00:02:30
pas neiz that fau similarity you understand exactly the00:02:35
same way as they put the blame that I compare the block00:02:38
with Ajay not the block with Aja I00:02:41
compare the stages of fate personality type type of00:02:43
creativity And00:02:45
all this, unfortunately, does not depend on the00:02:47
scale of talent or on character, these are00:02:52
parallels that arise in Russian00:02:54
history, they arise completely objectively and00:02:58
not00:03:00
another thing is that a fundamentally new thing,00:03:04
fundamentally unprecedented in Russia, is a00:03:07
wife who picks up the00:03:09
Banner after the death of her husband. The fact is that the00:03:12
majority of Russian00:03:14
leaders, well, either were, like Trotsky, married00:03:18
purely nominally and there most of all we00:03:21
remember Trotsky As the sexual partner of00:03:23
Frida Kolo or were married to absolutely00:03:26
faceless entities, well,00:03:28
there are many attempts to prove that Krupskaya00:03:32
was, after all, not a stupid person, but none00:03:35
of her subsequent writings from her00:03:37
behavior confirm Leninsky’s post, which00:03:40
means somehow it was not in00:03:43
Russia has such a wife of the leader who00:03:45
could, like a raso na kina, pick up the00:03:50
Banner Well, try to imagine00:03:53
one of the Russian general secretaries, and there were00:03:57
cases00:03:58
when, like Baburino and Markelov, the00:04:04
leader and his love were really killed together, but such00:04:07
that it means that having inherited00:04:12
the organization, the woman saved it. How in00:04:15
general Navalny is most likely saving FBK,00:04:17
and not even FBK itself, but the very structure of the00:04:20
Russian opposition, this has not happened. Are there any00:04:23
chances,00:04:26
you know, there are actually chances only00:04:30
because both Navalnaya and all the00:04:34
oppositionists today in Russia00:04:36
are on the side of the future, the future00:04:38
will come sooner or later, there are many ways for the past00:04:40
delay it started00:04:43
a war This is the most reliable way00:04:45
to stop time it tried, well, at any00:04:50
cost to throw into the furnace not only war but00:04:54
also internal repression of all the best who00:04:57
remained in this country, a00:04:59
natural prospect arises that sooner or00:05:03
later00:05:04
this future will come,00:05:08
but at what cost it will come more and more00:05:13
here I thought that Navalny00:05:16
really wasn’t perceived in any way with a00:05:19
seven-year-old. We used to think that 47 Well,00:05:21
this is already the second half of life, this is already00:05:24
a person coming from the fair, this is something he00:05:26
has already done and can be proud of something all was00:05:30
in the future like this guy spoke about00:05:32
Mayakovsky, he was all in the present, he00:05:34
was all in the phenomenon, so Navalny00:05:37
was all in the future and this is understandable. Because00:05:39
we live in a delayed future. We all00:05:42
remind you of that generation, I already00:05:45
talked about this, which is called the00:05:48
efv generation, and they themselves called themselves the generation00:05:50
of the forties years, these are people who00:05:53
tried to return to Marxism as it was00:05:56
molded for themselves by Slutsk and Samolov,00:05:59
who were by origin the Commissar,00:06:02
children in the views of00:06:06
unconditional materialists of Lenin,00:06:09
such universal athletes who00:06:16
prepared DD for even years, knocked out by00:06:19
a quarter and maybe a00:06:28
third of00:06:30
the camp that after the death of Stalin, how is this00:06:32
always happens in Russia, let's call things by00:06:35
their proper names, there was turmoil No, not a00:06:37
civil war, but unconditional turmoil, and the00:06:40
result of this turmoil was a long00:06:42
struggle for power and the second year and the second00:06:47
congress when, 3 years after00:06:51
Stalin's death, obvious things were called by00:06:53
their proper names Although the amnesty was already00:06:56
in full swing and rehabilitation,00:06:58
too, this generation entered into life00:07:01
when he was 40 or over 40 when00:07:04
Samoilov said 40 years of life went beyond the00:07:07
second pass and this cup was not finished,00:07:10
these people, by the way, the fundamental book of00:07:13
Samoilov after which you began to know00:07:15
was called the second pass the first00:07:18
was neighboring country and she was still, although00:07:21
very talented, but quite Soviet,00:07:24
then it began00:07:25
New what00:07:28
happened00:07:29
The Thaw is the people of this year00:07:34
Whose real social activity whose00:07:39
mature skill was00:07:44
delayed Stalinism seven as then00:07:47
just like with Nicholas I seven00:07:50
years of00:07:51
gloomier reaction and in in general, complete stagnation00:07:55
on all00:07:58
fronts of00:08:00
degradation of monstrous anti-Semitism Well,00:08:02
that's all. We remember what it was like at the end00:08:06
of the forties, then the turmoil, which until the00:08:09
year fifty-eight in one00:08:11
form or another continued until the year fifty-eight00:08:13
because then the so-00:08:16
called second00:08:17
Thaw began, but was immediately cut down by the00:08:20
Pasternak affair quite loud and the generation00:08:23
there celebrated this year in different ways, not00:08:27
always well, and then there is a00:08:30
delayed youth, a delayed00:08:33
second Youth, when00:08:36
first Slutsky becomes the most famous poet, then00:08:39
Samoilov, who always competes with him, and00:08:41
then about the same year, per Okudzhava,00:08:46
this is just a tragic situation Yes it was00:08:50
Smelyakov had his chance for the Renaissance00:08:53
in Stockholm syndrome, let it00:08:56
go Why is00:08:58
this literary history much00:09:00
closer to me than political? But at00:09:02
least it’s obvious that00:09:04
Navalny’s entire generation Yes, and mine In general, they live precisely00:09:08
in the delay of implementation, we’re lucky00:09:10
that we had a short one the gap when we00:09:13
managed to do something, relatively speaking, in the00:09:16
late nineties and early 2000s,00:09:17
the nineties were not a good time for00:09:20
literature, everyone was doing anything00:09:22
except literature, well, journalism as an00:09:25
option, and then there was a short, very00:09:29
short moment when it was possible to00:09:31
realize oneself and again it went.00:09:35
This one the reaction has begun to roll in, which by the00:09:38
way is now trying to00:09:41
freeze the case, they are shaking it with00:09:44
monstrous force because all these measures00:09:47
like the ban on LGBT literature, the ban on LGBT00:09:51
books, the seizure of no no no, this is00:09:55
all this, this is not stabilization, this is not an attempt00:09:58
to build a future country, the fate of00:10:01
Murza Morozova I I don’t want00:10:04
to gloat at all about his00:10:06
suicide, but it will show what happened to00:10:09
people00:10:28
who tried to feel good,00:10:30
nonentities, that is, poets who00:10:33
Dorval, there are several of them,00:10:36
but you also know their essence, you won’t envy00:10:40
a lot of questions, how do I feel00:10:45
about this issue of the interlocutor, which00:10:47
many they call it farewell to Navalny00:10:49
on the cover and there Navalny is just waving00:10:53
as if leaving, it’s unclear whether he is00:10:56
being seen off or he is seeing us off, you know,00:11:00
I was always proud that I work for the00:11:02
interlocutor, I worked for the interlocutor for00:11:04
4000:11:05
years, I left there, I didn’t leave,00:11:09
my work record Before It’s still lying there and00:11:11
I’m sure it will be useful to me again. My00:11:13
work record book is in my interlocutor.00:11:17
My greatest journalistic successes are connected with my interlocutor.00:11:20
And in general, now,00:11:23
Thank you, you kindly00:11:27
posted my Tash publications, and there are00:11:31
several thousand, there are about 3,00000:11:33
publications in 30 years, that’s, well,00:11:38
colossal a lot is a bit much Frankly00:11:41
speaking,00:11:44
I wouldn’t like to now Accept Oleg Raldugin to Fame,00:11:49
which the interlocutor has been heroically doing00:11:52
lately. Well, Yuri00:11:54
Pilipenko has not gone anywhere, our main one00:11:57
also continued to do this newspaper, the00:11:59
interlocutor has always been in the country from fashion00:12:03
from parties from belonging to one or00:12:06
another clan, sometimes he did things that00:12:08
I didn’t like, more often things that I00:12:11
liked and were ahead of time, more often these00:12:14
things were done and with my participation, too, for00:12:16
which I am eternally00:12:18
grateful to the newspaper, and Martynov and Focht and Yakovlev and00:12:23
Vasiliev all came00:12:25
from there and the current stars of the Russian peony,00:12:30
by the way A businessman in these00:12:33
days, VL, is much less worthy of himself00:12:36
than his social security officer, I don’t want to bring something up with00:12:38
colleagues, but I’m just not a00:12:39
journalist now, so I can probably00:12:42
talk about it from the outside. And now I can already00:12:46
say so.00:12:47
Well, I’ll return to journalism, of course.00:12:50
It’ll just be not tomorrow when this00:12:53
will be in demand over the poison with this00:12:54
pleasure00:12:57
occupying00:12:59
all the high-status00:13:02
media in the range from an independent newspaper00:13:05
to a businessman, it’s a shame they gave up00:13:09
everything in the same way But00:13:13
the interlocutor, a small publication who has00:13:16
Nothing to Lose, was preserved by the last00:13:19
window And by the way,00:13:27
today the issue is paper with Navalny on00:13:30
on the cover, this is a tremendous success, so the00:13:34
interlocutor will be associated with this00:13:37
with this huge success. Will they close him down00:13:40
now, I don’t know, maybe they will, or00:13:44
maybe someone at00:13:46
the top really likes him, that’s why they still tolerated him.00:13:48
But what the team did is a feat00:13:52
real and I’m happy that my name00:13:56
appeared on the pages of this publication for 4000:13:58
years,00:13:59
I stopped publishing there. When00:14:02
they had the need to put a00:14:04
banner on the agents, I didn’t want to be published00:14:06
under the banner and they didn’t want to, couldn’t,00:14:10
couldn’t refuse it, but I honestly didn’t want to00:14:13
telling them to harm because I would00:14:16
still start writing something that they00:14:18
could not print, but I continue00:14:21
to be on the team I consider it my00:14:23
part I am proud that I worked there and this00:14:26
once again shows us the00:14:29
extent to which you can remain human even in a00:14:32
situation It would seem complete00:14:37
deadlock about the same thing, many people00:14:40
ask me about the future fate of the00:14:44
Patriots. Yes, you know, those00:14:48
who are genuine are the genuine ones, the genuine00:14:52
Patriots are people with00:14:53
ideas who are not for the sake of fame, not for the sake of00:14:57
dispersing competitors00:14:59
for the sake of so to speak Well, as00:15:03
one of them put it,00:15:06
blood, dirt, theft And everything is like we00:15:10
love Well, these are the people who will probably00:15:13
die, they are doomed as always, they are00:15:15
doomed. Commissars in any war,00:15:19
you understand, we have already seen all this00:15:21
and everyone really loves the parallels with white00:15:24
migration, of course the fate of the current00:15:26
migration will be completely different00:15:29
and everyone00:15:31
and the only thing that, like the white emigration, will return00:15:34
is us we will see the death of all our enemies, everyone00:15:37
who kicked us out, drank, demanded that we take away00:15:42
our property, earnings, assets,00:15:44
names, opportunity to publish, and so00:15:46
on, we will see all these people in the coffin,00:15:50
well, actually, we saw them in the coffin,00:15:53
but of course00:15:55
we are, so to speak, all of them and we are blessed precisely00:15:59
because that as it is said in the piece of my00:16:02
favorite story from Guryev to00:16:04
Mak, the gears rotating in the right00:16:07
direction are erased more slowly,00:16:10
we coincide with the vector of history, so00:16:13
everything will be in order, and unselfishly00:16:16
coinciding with it, absolutely just pure00:16:18
saving of face, and00:16:21
as for these alterations, they are always00:16:25
more calm they will tell us00:16:29
and were not forced and will sing of00:16:32
freedom just as they sang of not00:16:35
freedom, we will probably have to coexist with them00:16:38
in the same space.00:16:39
In addition to those who become victims, this will00:16:43
inevitably be criminal prosecution from either00:16:45
Ukraine, or Russia, or00:16:47
from the world community; this is not00:16:49
fundamental, but certainly the whole00:16:53
public will receive00:16:57
their00:17:01
evolution and kas, you know, evolution00:17:05
because I quoted her wonderful00:17:07
poem In one of the00:17:10
recent navigators, you know, I’m not abandoning my own,00:17:13
Inna00:17:15
Kabysh’s evolution is not so important How important it has already been done to her,00:17:18
the poet who said so ours are waiting for00:17:21
us,00:17:30
I love it, Kabysh wrote very many00:17:33
great, significant poems she generally00:17:36
did a lot and no matter what letters she00:17:39
signed later and no matter what nonsense00:17:42
sometimes happened she later wrote and00:17:44
no matter what postures of suffering00:17:55
and contemporaries I am glad about this because00:17:59
nothing of the meanness of my other00:18:03
friends She did ask how I00:18:07
mean, I belong to the obituary Olshansky,00:18:10
who wrote00:18:12
one bastard00:18:14
such an obituary for both ours and yours, where he00:18:18
expresses such hypocritical regret about him00:18:21
Well, slime slime is such a very slimy type with00:18:24
whom I was once scared to say I was on00:18:28
friendly terms and worked in some00:18:31
publications and even defended it was00:18:34
in vain for him from the liberal public, I00:18:36
did it and a bastard is a bastard,00:18:39
nothing can be done, he proceeds from the fact that00:18:41
Russia is now the00:18:43
correct beautiful Russia of the present,00:18:46
as he calls it, and that Russia00:18:49
will always be like this00:18:51
And this is such a stupid, such a presumptuous00:18:56
statement Well, the man says that it00:18:58
will be Eternal night because in the night00:19:00
his abomination is less visible Well, let’s not00:19:04
comment on this, this is what they00:19:06
call, it’s not worth words, look and past,00:19:11
but00:19:27
I’ll tear it off. Actually, I never understood00:19:31
this, what is a stylist in general when00:19:36
Timofeevsky, in essence, For all00:19:39
his00:19:40
talent, he was good and sometimes he wasn’t a very00:19:43
good00:19:45
organizer of the journal process, but00:19:48
he didn’t have a single strong thought,00:19:50
not a single one, which means that he didn’t have a concept,00:19:54
and he didn’t have any imagination either.00:19:57
He was probably once a good00:20:01
art critic, but in general he was, in my00:20:03
opinion, a man who didn’t mean the kingdom of00:20:06
heaven highly00:20:11
inflated, so to speak, of his galaxy and his00:20:14
students against their background, he really00:20:16
stood out, but the rest were nowhere at all.00:20:19
This is about the same as it means00:20:22
to say about this Lord as his00:20:26
Maxim Sokolov that Maxim Sokolov was an00:20:29
excellent stylist Maxim Sokolov00:20:31
was not a stylist at all Maxim Sokolov he was an00:20:33
absolutely disgusting type. I’m very00:20:35
sorry that he died because in general I’m00:20:38
always for a person to receive00:20:40
some kind of Retribution. Well, he will receive it00:20:43
after death, it was such a00:20:47
monster Akunin and Senkevich00:20:50
blow up their heroes so that this means the parallels00:20:53
between Akum and Sevim seems strained to me,00:20:56
although00:21:01
poke pono Nigo and translate and00:21:05
why in the novel March, my favorite,00:21:08
it is said that a set of books by Sienkiewicz should be00:21:11
read by every Polish boy00:21:13
Sienkiewicz In a certain sense, he created a myth of the00:21:16
national character of the Polish I00:21:18
think that Akunin is trying to do,00:21:27
too,00:21:30
are fundamental for the nation with the00:21:33
slop of which it survives I can’t help but00:21:35
tell00:21:37
here about one interesting experiment I have at00:21:41
my00:21:43
seminar here I have such a seminar00:21:46
quatr link in Russian literature I’ve been00:21:48
reading it for the first time, but for the first time, for the first time00:21:51
in00:21:53
anlim,00:21:57
students have the task of determining those00:22:01
criteria by which a person00:22:03
develops high resistance to00:22:06
which he becomes a fighter, take the00:22:08
Ulak archipelago, by the way, American00:22:11
students read it with great enthusiasm00:22:13
because the information is compactly00:22:15
told and it is better to read this one00:22:17
book than to read 30-50 manuals on00:22:21
Soviet history. Everything important about Russian00:22:24
life is said in the book The00:22:26
Archipelago is00:22:28
contained in this book important information00:22:32
about the national character So they00:22:34
studied,00:22:35
of course, selected chapters So they00:22:39
watched something from the red wheel Well,00:22:41
in America it generally reads like a00:22:44
historical Saga, this is an American genre00:22:46
rather than a Russian one So they watched00:22:49
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich and some00:22:51
especially smart ones even watched 200 years00:22:54
together it was, you know, such a00:22:56
laboratory work to determine those00:22:59
character traits that give the hero00:23:02
increased chances of a To survive and b not to00:23:05
break, they identified five traits that00:23:08
seem to me Well, two functions are Well,00:23:12
rather functional but also helping00:23:15
But these are options, optional things, but here are00:23:18
five fundamental ones00:23:20
A firstly, these are good relationships in00:23:23
the family, good relationships, first of all, with00:23:26
parents and a good childhood because00:23:28
childhood gives that feeling of security and00:23:32
that feeling of the correct fundamental00:23:35
concepts on which the world stands, and thanks to00:23:38
which you can not break down in times00:23:41
of madness, here comes mass madness that00:23:44
can save the memory of your mother the memory00:23:46
of your father the feeling that God is looking00:23:50
after you that such00:23:52
good protected00:23:54
children always have, the second trait is physical endurance,00:23:59
this is not necessarily physical strength, but00:24:03
it is a00:24:05
deep00:24:07
willingness to withstand what Navalny had to00:24:10
withstand strong00:24:12
physical pressure, a strong spine,00:24:15
let’s call it00:24:17
that third trait00:24:23
secrecy00:24:26
VM Zhenina is always suspicious like Caesar00:24:30
Markovich But it’s not about Caesar Markovich00:24:33
there is no anti-Semitism there The fact is00:24:36
that the intelligentsia in general have excellent00:24:38
ears and yet the mottos don’t believe, don’t be afraid, don’t00:24:41
ask for survival very much accompany and00:24:45
contribute therefore not00:24:47
sociability secrecy closedness00:24:51
Yes no talkativeness is the traits and kosto of00:24:53
Glotov in cancer and nerves, with00:24:57
all his love for philosophical disputes,00:24:59
he won’t talk to anyone these are important00:25:02
things00:25:05
and the fourth00:25:07
thing is the presence of at least one00:25:11
fundamental idea is not00:25:15
necessarily a religious Faith Like the00:25:17
sectarian Alyoshka But it can to be00:25:20
nationalism based on nationalism How do they00:25:24
have it? For00:25:26
example, the Ukrainian00:25:30
Caucasian nationalists of the gulags described there have this00:25:32
topic. I specifically gave one very00:25:35
smart guy a topic for a report: nationalism and00:25:39
liberalism Are they compatible, but he00:25:41
thinks they are compatible? Let’s see. In any00:25:44
case, it’s interesting and it is important00:25:47
and the presence of one, so to speak, outside the00:25:51
pragmatic idea, most often it is the00:25:54
Christian Faith, but the Christian faith is00:25:57
very much for everyone, so it could be, for00:26:00
example, faith in the nation, well, in something00:26:03
greater than you, faith in the presence of something there,00:26:07
as the same said nichika in March and00:26:10
Abel was maybe a weak person, but00:26:12
Abel sometimes believed in something greater than00:26:15
Abel and this made him a00:26:18
positive, reliable00:26:21
person and fifth, this thing is very00:26:25
important - self-esteem because for such a00:26:29
person, humiliation of humility of any00:26:34
kind is unacceptable as unacceptable for00:26:38
him,00:26:39
suicide, strong pride is an00:26:41
important trait00:26:43
of a fighter, and then I have one00:26:46
child, I quoted this, I asked00:26:48
him to develop the idea expressed at the00:26:50
seminar and he wrote a very interesting00:26:56
essay, the00:26:58
hero and the winner are generally two different00:27:01
professions, different SK different00:27:05
skills, he came to this, oddly enough,00:27:08
on the basis of a00:27:09
morphological conclusion, he wrote there00:27:12
that no Christianity will trample00:27:16
against morphology, and morphology tells00:27:19
us that the words victim and Victoria are of different00:27:24
origins Victory, the origin of the00:27:26
Latin victim is the origin of Sanskrit00:27:30
and no matter how we want to connect the hero and the00:27:34
victim, win or even otherwise winner00:27:38
and hero Yes, the hero is a tragic figure00:27:41
who sacrifices himself; the winner is something else;00:27:43
it’s another profession. And00:27:47
we don’t really know where the word victim came from, but00:27:49
apparently it’s the origin of00:27:52
Indo-European; there is such a version. Well,00:27:54
naturally, the boy looked at the00:27:56
etymological words and00:27:59
Victory is the Latin version if there are00:28:02
others I’ll listen to and read them with pleasure,00:28:04
but I like the idea that a00:28:08
hero and a winner are different skills with00:28:12
different00:28:14
demands. True, it always seemed to me00:28:20
that it seemed to me that Navalny00:28:26
would win tactical alliances sometimes with the00:28:29
most unpleasant people in order to00:28:31
win together and Well, sometimes00:28:35
I had to I think to him, at the moments00:28:38
when he was still free, I think he00:28:40
had to00:28:41
take tactical steps that were far from00:28:45
always flawless, but it seemed to me that00:28:48
he was from the breed of00:28:50
winners and not heroes. That’s why I00:28:54
especially hoped for his success, but he00:28:58
turned out to be a hero for him it turned out that00:29:00
this is where pride worked for him, it00:29:02
turned out to be more important for him to throw himself into the furnace00:29:05
than to seek an alliance with them and this or00:29:09
what to negotiate with them makes00:29:13
Navalny for me00:29:16
probably the main person of our00:29:20
time Well, he is generally the main00:29:23
Russian now about the World Cup there, of00:29:26
course, if you compare him with00:29:29
all the representatives of power, then they00:29:32
simply don’t exist against his background. What should you read from00:29:35
Tendryakov first and what is your top00:29:38
text? Yes, you know,00:29:41
Tendryakov doesn’t have many top texts.00:29:45
He has good things, but do you see00:29:49
Tendryakov’s attempts to pose moral problems in a00:29:52
totally00:29:53
immoral way? And the Crooked Society Well, how is it in00:29:56
the rap, does00:29:58
a teenager have the right to shoot his00:30:01
father00:30:03
as an alcoholic, the whole situation is artificial and00:30:06
crooked, and therefore to talk about rights in00:30:09
this artificial situation, here I want to00:30:11
repeat the words starting with the letter, and Dostoevsky00:30:13
Raskolnikov needs00:30:17
not a reader, not a writer, but a psychotherapist00:30:20
and not even a00:30:28
night after graduation Although there remained in it00:30:32
some00:30:35
Well, some signs of the complex mental00:30:39
life of a00:30:41
person of the early seven Well, in general, Tendriaks00:30:44
is a writer of the first00:30:46
Thaw, this is a writer of a tight knot, a00:30:50
writer of an00:30:52
ear kon p00:30:56
ko and rushed on this wave, then he00:30:59
tried to ride the wave of anti-religious00:31:01
wrote a miraculous thing that was completely weak,00:31:05
then he tried,00:31:07
and in general, not without00:31:10
reason, to tell the truth about the war in Don00:31:14
Ana and he told his truth, which was completely00:31:16
unlike anything, and tried, it seems to me,00:31:22
also in recent years, to write the00:31:25
novel Attempted Mirages where he is on the table proves00:31:29
quite ingeniously that the appearance of00:31:31
Christianity is an inevitable stage on the path of00:31:34
humanity, otherwise humanity00:31:35
will not exist there he what he is doing there00:31:37
describes a group of historians00:31:40
researchers who have00:31:43
simulated00:31:45
different versions of history on a computer Christianity is00:31:47
appearing everywhere or the project of humanity00:31:50
must be closed this is a very interesting00:31:53
point of view I am very much00:31:56
I read this with interest in the early epoch, it00:32:00
was quite curious that his story was included in the00:32:02
collection of non-fiction fiction in the Lodo00:32:05
Guards library00:32:07
of fiction, which was called a00:32:09
century-long journey, he there very00:32:12
accurately00:32:13
predicted the00:32:16
plot of Slavnikovsky00:32:19
2017 I think that Slavnikova00:32:23
unconsciously took advantage of this00:32:26
idea that the main occupation of people in00:32:31
this in the late tenths in the early twenties00:32:35
there will be historical00:32:36
reconstructions, a historical reconstruction of the00:32:39
Civil War, he convincingly,00:32:43
scary and talentedly described a00:32:46
century-long journey, he predicted00:32:50
role-players and, by the way,00:32:53
typological, of course, undoubted00:32:55
repetitions of Russian history This00:32:58
made the book, in my opinion, very00:33:01
good later you see, Tendryakov had00:33:05
things, he wrote a lot, there were things,00:33:08
of course, and quite passable things like00:33:11
spring changelings or dates with00:33:13
Nefertiti, it00:33:15
seems to me that it’s quite passable, although at times very talented,00:33:18
and Tendryakov, since his debut in00:33:22
the fifties, was very dependent on00:33:26
the time,00:33:27
and it seems to me that this was it For him, it was00:33:32
fatal to go out of touch with the times, for example,00:33:36
Grinshtein was able to write a writer of the same type with the00:33:40
same intense interest in00:33:42
moral problems, the same in00:33:46
general, a00:33:47
rather unflattering opinion about a person,00:33:50
what can I00:33:52
say, even00:33:55
one ran and the second flew at00:33:59
Tendryakov If my memory serves me right00:34:01
one thing was called following the passing day00:34:04
It seems to me that this is not a completely correct00:34:07
strategy, you need to break away from reality00:34:10
and then there is a chance to fly, so Greenstein00:34:12
flew, Trifonov flew, but one thing cannot be00:34:16
denied, one cannot be denied that00:34:18
Tendryakov was a very gifted00:34:25
person How do you00:34:29
evaluate the interlinear00:34:31
longinus and00:34:35
the book you understand e Lungina Liliana herself she00:34:40
was a dazzling person and as a00:34:45
translator for Carlson and Viana, we learned00:34:48
thanks to her and as a storyteller and as a00:34:53
mother and as a wife of Semyon Lunge, she00:34:59
was equally charming in all00:35:02
guises, by the way,00:35:05
many of Carlson’s expressions, so to speak, of00:35:09
his00:35:12
phrases farts, everyday affairs were written off by00:35:15
Pasha Lungin which pack Hello to you00:35:18
who never denied00:35:25
that00:35:27
[music]00:35:30
in general00:35:31
Lungina who gave the language to Carlson and00:35:35
who with her translation group00:35:37
gave the Russian analogue of Viana has already00:35:41
earned an eternal grateful memory with this alone. As00:35:43
for the film interlinear, you understand I00:35:47
think that the main thing in this film is in this00:35:51
nor is this a fixation of the interests and morals of that00:35:55
very generation00:35:57
about which I spoke about which Lungina00:35:59
belonged, because, you know, she was friends00:36:01
with00:36:03
this whole galaxy of Samoilov poets, first of all,00:36:07
they studied together, they were00:36:10
incredibly advanced, smart, brave,00:36:14
developed and physiologically00:36:16
intellectual people ready for the fate00:36:20
of a superman, it would seem Wow,00:36:27
the world in general, but how would they change it00:36:30
if they weren’t systematically destroyed,00:36:33
didn’t spread rot throughout the end of the forties, Lungin is00:36:36
of course an enchanting phenomenon, and another00:36:39
thing is that this is not the merit of00:36:41
Dorman. Although he is a very good director,00:36:43
this is not the merit of the stenographer00:36:46
who transcribed her monologue, this00:36:49
is the merit of the lunar generation00:36:51
to which it belonged to his generation00:36:54
and the00:36:57
fact that they appreciated and managed to detain this matter,00:37:01
by the way, and the book from00:37:04
Barsha’s monologue. Although I understand00:37:07
much less in music than in literature, it also00:37:09
seems to me a completely unique00:37:11
experience. Have you seen00:37:13
the film No, I have it I have it in my00:37:23
plans for some time00:37:28
in Ukraine in the00:37:32
USA guys. Well, let’s not comment on00:37:35
this nonsense; we’ll give it the status of00:37:38
reality. Now there’s a lot of this conspiracy theory, there’s a lot of00:37:41
nonsense and, so to speak,00:37:44
the chance for a modern person to go crazy is00:37:48
very00:37:55
great00:37:58
for and they acquire the status of reality. Let’s00:38:02
still don’t pay too much attention to this00:38:08
what will be the fate of the newspaper00:38:10
social security I don’t think it will be closed and then00:38:13
even if it is closed it will be published00:38:16
as a new newspaper is being published now it has already00:38:19
made a website00:38:25
for distribution it took care of this00:38:28
in time the interlocutor has a good00:38:31
survival skill Let’s not forget that00:38:32
the interlocutor In the ninety-first year,00:38:35
my first wife Nadka Gurskaya and I00:38:37
were distributing this throughout the Moscow metro and a00:38:39
policeman came up to us and asked for00:38:42
a pack and began to give it away too. That’s when I00:38:45
realized that everything was in order, the public-private partnership lost,00:38:48
the interlocutor then began to00:38:51
photocopy the information numbers We00:38:54
they kept it in their museum, something remained,00:38:58
you know, and these conspiracy skills,00:39:01
survival skills in those circumstances00:39:03
when it is00:39:05
impossible to survive, well, all this has not gone away.00:39:09
We are Soviet people in general, and we00:39:12
know this on the issue of adaptability,00:39:16
which American students00:39:18
also seem to be very An important00:39:21
feature is00:39:23
the knife, what do you think, science in the00:39:27
door? Well, apparently it means either00:39:31
A Cabin in the Forest or Well, this is before the last00:39:35
picture of Sh Malan, I recently watched it00:39:38
there, the plot is that a homosexual couple00:39:41
raising a girl comes to00:39:43
relax in the forest,00:39:45
mysterious four people come to them, they are different.00:39:47
never knew each other, but they found00:39:50
each other through the mysterious visions00:39:52
that visited them00:39:57
when they went00:39:59
to this hut00:40:02
and one of the00:40:05
three heroes must sacrifice either00:40:08
one of the fathers or a00:40:10
girl and then they will save the world. And the world there is on00:40:14
TV all the time disasters00:40:16
flood the world is obviously00:40:25
dying, which means gentlemen00:40:29
and relatively speaking, the Lord’s wife, I forgot what00:40:32
this00:40:34
picture was called, either mom or dad with an00:40:37
exclamation mark Well, somehow it00:40:39
was called, I got the feeling that00:40:42
he was freezing in a good way,00:40:45
that he started filming something what comes to him00:40:48
in his nightmares, I00:40:51
respect that,00:40:57
well, how can I say normal and the signs in00:41:00
general are a normal picture, that’s why it00:41:03
begs for a parody and The Sixth00:41:05
Sense is a normal movie, and00:41:09
very well00:41:13
invented by Shiman Today he tells00:41:17
such crazy idiotic parables,00:41:21
idiotic because Aloe but in this00:41:24
do you believe onma especially in this hut in00:41:27
the forest he caught the00:41:30
feeling really Rusha00:41:32
really00:41:45
came down by me too the picture leave the world00:41:49
behind This is00:41:51
Apocalyptic the collapse of the plot as a form of00:41:54
plot and chapters00:41:56
This is exactly there Made in the finale when the00:41:59
survivor is one of the couple and the girl walks through00:42:03
the city and sees that life00:42:05
is slowly returning to normal, the victim is00:42:07
accepted, this is a very scary feeling, but it’s00:42:11
filmed. It’s good and00:42:16
felt wonderful. I’m really looking forward to00:42:18
the traps, just waiting for the00:42:25
movie. I’m00:42:27
waiting for August September October, it will be a00:42:30
very interesting time and in America00:42:33
especially your opinion about Simone Weil00:42:36
Simon Wahl - this is a religious thinker, a00:42:39
religious00:42:43
philosopher00:42:48
who lived only 34 years in00:42:53
the era of actually starving herself to death00:42:56
because living in a monastery. She decided to00:43:01
limit her diet to what prisoners of war received.00:43:06
Prisoners during the siege and a00:43:10
combination with tuberculosis. This was what00:43:12
finished her off. How do I feel about theories and ideas00:43:16
Simon or you00:43:18
know Well, yata bone happy to the00:43:25
end of00:43:29
love and so on, it hasn’t00:43:33
been translated much here, but no matter how I feel about her00:43:38
texts, she went through the stage of Marxism through00:43:42
Marxism of religious00:43:45
philosophy, even her philosophy doesn’t00:43:48
interest me. I’m00:43:55
interested in00:43:59
absolutely all institutions, all00:44:01
completed teachings, all ready-made forms00:44:05
and lived such a strange life, so00:44:08
Christian in the highest sense.00:44:11
You see, if you have00:44:14
religious doubts, and you00:44:17
probably have them without this. What kind of00:44:25
Faith are many people calling both the successor of00:44:28
Berson00:44:31
and the00:44:33
student of leading Marxists, and at the same time, an00:44:37
anarchist spontaneous girl00:44:40
who is the girl who by the age of 20,00:44:43
I had read all the classics of world philosophy and,00:44:46
in addition, grew up, although at the00:44:56
last limit and as the only00:44:59
universal answer to many questions.00:45:01
If Simone Well came to such a00:45:03
conclusion,00:45:05
we should probably all at least00:45:08
listen to it carefully. And00:45:12
then you always understand me00:45:17
people who turn their lives into00:45:21
weapons or into a global religious00:45:25
experiment acted strongly, so agree to assign00:45:28
yourself the rations that00:45:31
prisoners of war receive; this is a colossal00:45:34
challenge; this is not suicide; this is an attempt00:45:37
to trace. Is00:45:40
this possible? Well, what did she write? The style of00:45:44
her letters. Her extensive correspondence has been published.00:45:48
and her dying decision to00:45:52
accept00:45:54
Baptism00:45:56
from00:45:58
her friend is amazing,00:46:02
strange,00:46:04
so depressed but certainly strong00:46:08
femininity, which is expressed00:46:10
primarily in enormous empathy in00:46:12
Simova’s enormous mercy - this is a wonderful,00:46:15
such a new Saint, such a person00:46:25
will be able to at least00:46:29
understand this, well, in many ways this is because00:46:34
you see, for me it’s philosophy In general, it’s not the00:46:36
most frequent reading, I’m used to reading something00:46:40
that00:46:43
somehow coincides.00:46:45
Well, with my artists, the intention of philosophy00:46:49
never touched me deeply if it00:46:52
wasn’t00:46:57
Berdyaev’s Philo. I evaluate him as a brilliant00:46:59
publicist, can this be called00:47:01
philosophy? I don’t00:47:04
know, I think that Berdyaev’s In any00:47:08
case, in his polemic with00:47:10
Ilyin, he very accurately called some things by00:47:13
their proper00:47:15
names. I think that self-knowledge is one of the00:47:20
main things. Along with the cat, cast of00:47:23
autobiographical00:47:24
books, confessions of the Russian Pryan Swa, if00:47:28
you like, I have this book over there on a shelf of honor,00:47:31
I have Berdyaev, of course, this00:47:32
book was a gift. to me as a colleague00:47:35
professor Well, probably the new00:47:39
Middle Ages have its origins there And the meaning of00:47:41
Russian communism seems to me to be a00:47:44
rather superficial work Well, the word00:47:46
superficial I vowed not to use00:47:48
Because it can be called00:47:50
Everything, I mean00:47:54
that no specifically Russian00:47:57
communism as well as no specifically00:47:59
Russian soul exists as soon as we00:48:02
make such an assumption, we practically00:48:05
forgive00:48:07
And both Russian communism and Russian fascism00:48:11
for00:48:12
me, after all,00:48:15
Berdyaev is not valuable for this. Well, here’s a guess about the00:48:20
new Middle Ages, yes, of course, and00:48:22
because he objected to quasi-religious00:48:27
philosophy and00:48:31
inanine No NM in recent years I00:48:35
didn’t have a life and I’m sure00:48:38
that Hegel didn’t need such students for nothing,00:48:41
such00:48:43
researchers are you familiar with the00:48:45
work of Robert Anto00:48:48
and they did00:48:54
n’t00:48:56
eat this one that is parasites of00:49:01
consciousness, then at least I know this00:49:03
author but the Illumin trilogy I’m hearing for the first time00:49:10
how you feel about the benefit performance of bots00:49:15
in your telegram Well, listen, it’s00:49:20
normal for a person to somehow00:49:22
realize himself and earn money, I00:49:26
usually deal with this public with the touch of a finger.00:49:28
Evaluate the work of Eduard00:49:31
Kochergin Eduard Kochergin, in fact, is the00:49:33
artist who is waiting for everything, an artist, mainly a00:49:35
theater artist, a presenter,00:49:37
comparable to the best, for example,00:49:41
Borovsky, with the best theater00:49:44
artists of the seventies and eighties, he00:49:46
worked for Tovstonogov and00:49:49
designed a number of absolutely00:49:51
brilliant legendary performances and his00:49:55
works like an angel doll or baptized with00:49:58
crosses in his memoir book of recent00:50:02
years, they are very well written, no00:50:04
I have no doubt they are very00:50:07
talented Well, this is kind of the wrong thing00:50:10
literature that I love and Kochergin with00:50:13
his rather terrible experience, he is not00:50:16
close to me. Not because I have a different experience,00:50:19
but because he has a different style of00:50:22
telling about him, so very harsh,00:50:26
but at the same time Kochergin is certainly a00:50:28
talented writer and a brilliant00:50:30
theater artist, so to everything00:50:32
that he does, I treat him with a priori00:50:35
deepest respect00:50:39
A An interesting00:50:44
person00:50:48
and Your opinion about Frederic Buckman,00:50:51
especially about the disturbing people00:50:53
I haven’t read anxious people But even a superficial00:50:58
acquaintance with Frederico00:51:00
Backman was00:51:03
enough for me not to feel00:51:08
much interest He is a good writer but this is not00:51:12
the kind of writer which I could00:51:14
spend a lot of time not only that I really don’t00:51:16
have enough time there Or not00:51:19
that I don’t have much left I have a lot left00:51:22
I hope At least to write something to them you00:51:26
always feel somehow the00:51:28
remaining measured out00:51:30
this is often a delusion But I00:51:34
try not to do what I don’t have an00:51:37
initial interest in. Well, here’s00:51:40
a question about the work of Elena Elton or00:51:42
Lena Elton, probably Lena Elton00:51:45
really knows how to write beautifully,00:51:48
probably even Max Fry, who at00:51:50
one time encouraged her and promotes her to write00:51:54
beautifully, but that’s not at all interesting to me00:51:57
these are not the00:52:00
phenomena that can attract me, I00:52:04
understand too well how it’s00:52:07
done, it’s really like sitting00:52:10
on the veranda in the rain and it means00:52:15
dipping a good Kuta biscuit in red wine.00:52:18
Yas in00:52:20
a blanket, almost everything that Elton writes and00:52:23
everything that Fry writes00:52:25
passes by I am in the category of vulgarity,00:52:28
despite the fact that this vulgarity is intellectual,00:52:31
refined, but at its core, at its core.00:52:35
I still feel some very00:52:38
coarse matter, as if some00:52:41
infinitely refined person in front of me suddenly00:52:43
began to express himself about scenes.00:52:47
I can’t explain it. I just00:52:49
feel a deep second-rate manufacture of a00:52:54
deep00:52:55
[music]00:52:57
imitative00:52:58
manner of writing about Southern00:53:02
Europe, historical or00:53:04
conspiracy theories or detective or00:53:06
travel Roman is this or a genus Roman is not a00:53:10
thing but I don’t feel a personality behind it00:53:14
and this is what especially depresses me,00:53:16
probably it is there but I I don’t00:53:19
feel it and I’m00:53:20
not deeply interested in it, plus I00:53:24
see a lot of imitation stuff there, it’s00:53:27
just ordinary, you know, what’s00:53:33
called the truth is some kind of00:53:35
intellectual00:53:38
vulgarity. I consider in general everything that is00:53:42
aimed at developing a certain00:53:44
opinion about oneself When a person is not00:53:47
she understands her problems in literature and00:53:49
will create some kind of idea about herself. It is00:53:53
precisely00:53:56
for these personal reasons that I do not accept and00:53:59
will never accept the work of the00:54:01
strips. I have no personal00:54:03
complaints that she insulted my00:54:06
teacher. God be with her that she00:54:09
disseminated some kind of then it’s fantastic00:54:11
stupidity about me, don’t give a damn about some kind of persecution,00:54:14
no, it’s just, well, from some00:54:19
point on, it ceases to be poetry00:54:24
and it ceases to be of interest, unfortunately,00:54:29
it seems to me that it can’t have anything to do with00:54:33
beliefs, ideas, views, you00:54:37
know, I can00:54:40
like it there or don’t like certain00:54:43
songs of Shcherbakov, but Shcherbakov is an example of00:54:46
absolute honesty in art when00:54:54
the honor is to formulate a painful thirst00:54:57
to understand himself and he00:55:00
will never do anything for his00:55:01
self-affirmation in art, he00:55:03
knows how to write poetry well enough to00:55:05
play the guitar so as not to deal with00:55:07
the problem his image of self-affirmation00:55:10
and so on, something is good, something is00:55:12
not good, something is completely incomprehensible to me. But00:55:16
I feel that an absolutely genuine person is digging in this direction. The00:55:18
problem of00:55:22
authenticity in general I really care00:55:26
about the man Govo. You know he is very00:55:28
real. This is an abomination too. And they00:55:31
usually say this about a00:55:33
person who is engaged in total00:55:35
show, but I can name in modern00:55:38
Russian art, without wanting to00:55:40
confuse them with anyone, of course, several names of people00:55:43
who solve their problems, who are00:55:46
engaged in solving their internal00:55:50
dramas, resolutions. This is Denis Dragunsky,00:55:53
first of all from prose writers, this is00:55:56
definitely Ulitskaya, who writes00:56:00
because it is her self-salvation,00:56:04
this is Oleg Rodzinsky, who also solves the00:56:09
problems of his inner self, sometimes things that do00:56:12
n’t coincide with me are00:56:15
Naum, my favorite writer and favorite00:56:19
publicist,00:56:21
human rights activist, I value people who are busy with themselves00:56:26
extremely and something that I will never appreciate00:56:29
And what I will never love this00:56:32
positioning of oneself in literature,00:56:34
whipping up hysteria, saying what is00:56:37
accepted or what is fashionable. This is00:56:41
extremely hostile to me00:56:44
because literature is generally my00:56:46
vital business and when someone gets into it00:56:49
with pragmatic and not very pure00:56:52
goals This has been pissing me off00:56:55
lately. I’ve been interested in the issue of00:56:57
military migration. More often the thought arises: where would00:57:00
you advise ordinary people to migrate00:57:02
from Russia? Maybe there00:57:06
is practical advice on this00:57:12
matter00:57:14
[music]00:57:16
you know, I’ve never seen ordinary people.00:57:20
And when I come across the question,00:57:27
I immediately try to curtail communication there are00:57:31
no ordinary people00:57:34
and you are not simple and I am not00:57:37
simple, but to give advice on where to00:57:40
emigrate, yes And as for where to00:57:44
land, I recommend that the Earth is round everywhere with00:57:57
Everyone has their own capabilities and their own wishes00:58:00
But the world is big,00:58:03
you know, if a person wants to leave,00:58:07
if this is for him critically important if00:58:09
the question is about life and00:58:12
death, I00:58:15
think you can find on the huge00:58:19
globe a small piece of living00:58:21
space that coincides with you00:58:26
can find a landscape that coincides with00:58:29
your past with your dreams with your00:58:32
childhood, maybe you can find a landscape in00:58:35
which you will00:58:37
feel good and the people with whom you00:58:40
will like and the language in which you00:58:42
will like to speak. This is00:58:43
a conversation that it is very difficult to pick yourself up there00:58:46
by the hair and transplant to new soil,00:58:49
the choice is very simple, you are00:58:53
worried, or you end up in00:58:57
a character that has certainly become00:59:00
a household name lately Well,00:59:02
really today for a person00:59:04
who does not want to get dirty in murder and00:59:07
in the propaganda of murder there is practically no00:59:10
chance to sit out this time in silence.00:59:12
Putin’s time is good for one, it is very00:59:14
frankly no one will succeed. It will not00:59:17
manifest itself to everyone, so00:59:20
the only way from00:59:23
the many is to00:59:27
subtract yourself from this situation. I00:59:31
hope that you will succeed. This does not00:59:34
mean that you need to run, but maybe you00:59:36
feel more organic. This00:59:38
also happens in underground work in00:59:41
underground existence; someone in Russia00:59:43
must stay and conduct this underground00:59:46
work; I respect it; I00:59:56
bow down; I understand; well, no00:59:58
I bow down, but I understand, and No01:00:01
complaints. But if a person can leave,01:00:03
then it seems to me that choosing01:00:05
such a place for him is not a disaster; it’s not such an01:00:10
insoluble01:00:13
problem, what do you think it will be?01:00:31
Of course, against the backdrop of such giants01:00:34
as Hemingway and, say, Faulkner, he is01:00:39
probably not a figure in the very first01:00:42
rank, probably there are01:00:45
complaints about Sol White and in01:00:53
terms of humor, but I can try01:00:58
to predict why he is precisely the01:01:01
intensity of intellectual search and the01:01:04
feeling of deep personal wounded01:01:11
absolute authenticity of everything that he01:01:13
did the authenticity of his01:01:15
suffering, the intensity of the search, that’s01:01:18
probably how I probably could only01:01:21
put Chira next to him and wear a01:01:23
koto01:01:25
in a burqa. I recently bought it with01:01:28
joy, just for01:01:36
nostalgia, a very good writer,01:01:39
but the present is getting better about what Nikah01:01:43
Faus wrote, a very good writer poses01:01:45
wonderful insoluble problems But01:01:48
then I01:01:53
feel from melting some kind of01:01:57
depth of inner Paradise that for this alone one01:02:01
can somehow already respect by and large,01:02:05
I didn’t read it very much and01:02:08
read it on a rather strange recommendation.01:02:10
I remember I interviewed Vera01:02:13
Khilovo, I asked her about what you are now01:02:17
working on01:02:23
something for new projects, I say, well, okay,01:02:27
tell me what you are reading, at least01:02:29
I read solo and in terms of the intensity of01:02:33
internal work, this in many01:02:35
respects replaces working on a film. I01:02:38
thought, well, since Vera Khilova reads solo,01:02:42
I probably need it too The faith of the hero01:02:46
meant a lot to me at that time.01:02:52
Well, the first thing that Yal01:02:56
and they absolutely delighted me because01:02:59
this is a real picaresque novel, together01:03:01
deeply autobiographical. Well, then I01:03:04
read the Duke,01:03:07
well, you understand. He still has what01:03:11
he definitely has And what his makes a01:03:16
Nobel01:03:23
candidate01:03:25
for the second plan the same thing he01:03:27
did, relatively speaking,01:03:30
with what he did and partly01:03:36
with such Jewish intellectuals of the01:03:39
transition period, he probably told the best prose about this01:03:42
Jewish01:03:44
intellect01:03:55
if we had to choose, let’s say Between him and diso,01:03:58
I would probably give the GSU but the difference is01:04:01
you understand that dis Well With all due respect to01:04:04
him, despite the fact that he is an extremely strong01:04:08
writer, wonderful01:04:11
visuals But I wouldn’t give it to him01:04:14
because reading01:04:16
white is much more pleasant and In some01:04:20
sense01:04:21
more interesting, the interest of reading, the01:04:25
interestingness of the01:04:27
author’s approach to the character01:04:31
is fascinating, these are not the last01:04:33
factors therefore solo Yes, he earned his Nobel01:04:37
Prize. Although it seems to me that the01:04:40
Fau had at least as much reason to01:04:43
receive it. Do you agree that many01:04:46
beatniks worked under01:04:53
Mari?01:04:57
I always work on the text with such a degree of01:05:00
concentration01:05:03
that any prevailing factors01:05:07
Well, for example, there is alcohol,01:05:10
marijuana, even lying in the too bright01:05:13
sun distracts me. I can sometimes01:05:17
write poetry in a completely new way. Nera01:05:21
was01:05:23
some kind of additional force in me, even01:05:25
this came out. Well, maybe due to an internal01:05:28
protest, but either in conditions of such01:05:31
moderate, unpretentious, but still01:05:33
Comfort, I01:05:36
generally don’t like it when I'm01:05:42
distracted by marijuana, it's01:05:44
not a matter of propaganda or01:05:47
propaganda of drugs, but marijuana01:05:51
still01:05:54
changes the nature of01:05:56
thinking,01:05:59
it noticeably01:06:02
reduces your own01:06:09
criticality and With this approach, it01:06:15
seems to me even You see, in a state of01:06:19
moderate01:06:23
intoxication01:06:24
Write once in my life I remember I was01:06:27
leaving from St. Petersburg, of course, my01:06:32
friends saw me off. Naturally, at the same time,01:06:34
we saw off a few01:06:38
cranberries, I composed, in my opinion, of all my01:06:42
quatrains, the most successful numbering of01:06:45
carriages begins with the tail, repeat01:06:49
for condoms, begins with the01:06:53
tail,01:06:55
this is the ceiling of my capabilities in a01:06:58
state of mild intoxication, in general,01:07:00
you understand correctly, someone then he said that01:07:02
working on poetry is the best01:07:09
meditation, that you love01:07:13
Akutagawa’s01:07:15
nose most of all. I recently re-read it precisely in01:07:18
connection with that01:07:20
American poison,01:07:22
but in a different way,01:07:27
but from a01:07:31
wild or01:07:34
lyrical point of view. Well, some part of some01:07:39
facet of your personality leaves you01:07:42
It happens, and here is a boy who compared01:07:46
it with01:07:52
Akutagawa’s story age Yes, a motley group in general, a01:07:55
wonderful report he made about the01:07:58
fact01:07:59
that the thing that weighs us down, the vice from01:08:04
which we are trying to get rid of, can01:08:06
be the most direct and most accurate01:08:09
expression of our self01:08:12
and Probably this is the best what can you give to01:08:16
the world? And you try to fight it,01:08:19
get rid of it. I always01:08:22
read this ending with tears, now I wo01:08:25
n’t give you up to anyone, said the monk and exposed01:08:28
his poor nose to the autumn wind, there is also a01:08:32
brilliant translation by Arkady Natanovich01:08:35
Struga from Akutagawa there are a lot of01:08:39
great stories Akunin is right, of course,01:08:42
that some of them are absolutely01:08:44
unbearable to read, so01:08:48
they are. Well, purity01:08:51
of utomi or01:08:54
jagged wheels or the Gates of Hell are simply written in blood, it’s just01:08:58
scary to approach this, which is why he01:09:00
thinks that it’s better that he wrote it01:09:03
in the01:09:04
thicket after all at least structurally it is yes. A01:09:07
great story, by the way, is based precisely on the01:09:09
motives of In more often than not, all the Great01:09:13
Prose of the 10th century was written and, above all, Styron,01:09:16
who also tell the story01:09:19
in different voices and take off the different01:09:22
covers of the article.01:09:28
Sophia for recognizing NATO, rra and for01:09:32
setting fire to this house, but Stein had a01:09:35
crisis of depression, he wrote an01:09:38
amazing book about this depression, Dark,01:09:41
which I recommend to everyone, but01:09:47
unfortunately, after choosing Sophie, stop01:09:49
at that his next novel could be a01:09:52
Nobel prize, or at least there01:09:54
close to this, but he fell01:09:59
victim to his own severe spiritual01:10:01
crisis, probably inevitably, probably He01:10:04
should have switched to documentary01:10:06
prose or journalism or true Crime,01:10:09
which Judging by his journalism01:10:11
that I bought recently, he was very01:10:13
successful, but he didn’t do this, he01:10:17
apparently didn’t either wanted01:10:19
to transform And so, in principle, in the01:10:22
use of this Prima, tearing off01:10:25
various covers from the story, his story01:10:27
From different angles of view, of course, he01:10:30
had no equal01:10:32
Akutagawa in general brought a lot into the01:10:35
narrator's technique that there01:10:39
was no handkerchief before him, an amazing01:10:43
story Val, a wonderful story about01:10:46
Tolstoy and Turgenev Although he is very Japanese or01:10:54
not, but yes, the life of an idiot is, of course, a01:10:58
wonderful story, but for01:11:02
a few this is precisely the neurosis of a modernist in01:11:06
such a fundamentally archaic environment. I01:11:08
think that for many today the life of an idiot01:11:11
would be very01:11:18
useful. What is your favorite joke in recent01:11:22
times?01:11:27
You know, times are not fun at all01:11:29
but I really liked one anecdote.01:11:32
He’s indecent.01:11:37
Well, he’s so indecent,01:11:40
he’s sexist and he’s a mingo, he’s01:11:45
whatever, but we can afford01:11:49
anything if it’s funny, we’re looking for a net taste, his01:11:52
wife01:11:56
told me. That’s why I kind of01:12:00
absolve01:12:02
myself of all accusations of being a sexist in advance. skies if01:12:06
your wife starts to get fat Advise her to01:12:09
walk 10 km every day in a01:12:13
month this fat woman will already be 300 km from01:12:17
you I can afford shaming I01:12:21
have experienced it a lot and deservedly so but I01:12:24
really like the structure itself the01:12:27
narrator the joke is funny rare And01:12:31
pleasant things What do you think about the01:12:34
genre? It seems that the genre is leaving and even Green has written off.01:12:37
And Grisha has01:12:43
written off to me. It seems to me01:12:52
that01:12:56
this is a pleasure. Well, as we fear,01:12:59
this is a pleasure for those times when there is a01:13:02
law, there are ways to circumvent01:13:06
the law. Well, there is a kind of challenge in being the01:13:11
most01:13:13
elegant01:13:15
and at the same time it is01:13:17
immoral within the framework of the01:13:22
shutter01:13:25
Well, oppose something to the enemy,01:13:29
beat him, outplay him, but this exactly01:13:32
makes sense where there is a game, you understand,01:13:34
and as long as it is there, where there are rules, where there01:13:37
is a big chessboard.01:13:39
Please note, the political01:13:42
novel, the conspiracy novel are also gone01:13:44
Because that there was a big chessboard01:13:47
in the01:13:49
terminology of the game01:13:52
of szha, one did something there, then another did everything, but they01:13:56
played there, there were players, relatively speaking,01:13:59
like Kissinger or, relatively speaking, like01:14:04
Brzezinski,01:14:07
it was acceptable for complex people,01:14:25
but the society that exists today01:14:28
is a society that went beyond the boundaries of01:14:30
conventions, it’s a sin to say I was the first01:14:33
to write about this after the film Khrustalev01:14:35
machine, it was precisely the destruction of the01:14:38
convention of the idea of what01:14:41
art is, but even earlier Lef Aninsky said about this,01:14:44
before there was literature,01:14:46
conjecture, condensation of typification, now it is01:14:50
so real that in the01:14:52
letters of01:14:56
the document there is evidence that01:14:58
those who are suitable have appeared with01:15:00
literary techniques with literary01:15:03
standards there is already01:15:05
blasphemy, ideas have appeared01:15:13
that are more01:15:22
terrible than01:15:24
Zamyatin’s utopian space in We, people01:15:29
from01:15:30
the forest climbed into the integral and it turned out that we are not a dystopia. And the most important thing that is not01:15:33
Utopia, it turned out01:15:35
that the Novosibirsk Academy Town01:15:38
was exactly the Utopia of the integral And there01:15:41
people came from the forest and it was all over.01:15:43
Maybe someday I’ll write a novel about01:15:45
how the Siberian Agam town is with its01:15:48
intrigues. Yes, with its falsehood and conformism.01:15:52
Yes, they are01:15:57
like people from the forest who completely01:16:00
cancel01:16:01
life, so I could write such a novel. if01:16:06
only when I would untie more or01:16:08
less with the ocean I might write such a novel,01:16:11
I could say why01:16:14
because you understand Well, here’s a thought01:16:22
bro01:16:24
when people from the audience poured onto the stage01:16:28
then because on stage there is still01:16:32
some semblance of acting,01:16:35
including the semblance of a convention is observed on stage,01:16:39
so we agreed and within the framework of01:16:41
dramatic art we are doing something01:16:44
maybe. By the way, I’ll start Ron01:16:52
from Kadim the Moscow theater arrived in the city,01:16:56
brought a performance so politically01:16:59
dubious, everyone said nothing and suddenly people01:17:03
from the audience went on stage, so to speak, in01:17:07
conversation climbed in Gleb Kapustin This01:17:10
could turn out01:17:14
interesting Tell us about your01:17:18
seminar01:17:21
on Yal, do01:17:23
we have a chance to hold01:17:27
it here, well, it’s not difficult I will be only01:17:33
glad, I will be glad if you01:17:38
get together and we hold01:17:41
such a01:17:43
seminar But I can tell you what01:17:47
happens at the seminar01:17:52
I01:17:53
mean, I need to01:17:56
write the fourth01:17:58
part about the kid and01:18:01
Carlson, the fourth Tale about the kid and01:18:04
Carlson, first of all,01:18:08
because the kid is a teenager, together with Carlson,01:18:11
they will do all sorts of exciting01:18:14
things, there’s Carlson who takes the kid01:18:16
to see women and so on, and we came up with01:18:21
Carlson at the end. Well there they help01:18:26
the kid, the crazy one01:18:53
that you don’t understand or what, I’m busy,01:18:55
but01:18:57
then it turns out that there are terrible things there,01:19:01
one girl has already started writing. She01:19:03
does amazing work and I think it01:19:05
will be a great story. We decided to01:19:07
call it the fourth prose, steal everything.01:19:11
And here is the fourth story. about the baby and01:19:14
Carlson, it turned out that all the features of01:19:16
Carlson that are charming in01:19:19
him look monstrous in the girl in the01:19:23
flying01:19:24
girl, she is not Mary pos. She is01:19:28
just like him, impudent, arogant01:19:41
coins that he cashed, he now has to01:19:44
give her back, He tells her, well, Clara, well, I01:19:47
am earned what she says, well,01:19:49
nothing, Karl lo,01:19:51
everyday life, in my opinion, it’s01:19:56
nothing In general, a good story The girl01:19:59
writes to me, it’s nice to see how01:20:02
talent awakens, because we, you see, in01:20:04
this seminar about01:20:07
me, it’s called for a reason I gave it as a01:20:11
challenge We not only process,01:20:14
digest, describe what has already01:20:17
been done in the genre, we are trying to understand what01:20:20
should be done today, the future Zaya01:20:23
gave there religious ones, for example, yes, well,01:20:27
the problem of the sect is very relevant for01:20:29
any teenager. Well, there are a lot of topics or the01:20:32
problem of relationships with parents. It01:20:34
seems to me that he is just beginning to comprehend it01:20:37
because many teenagers01:20:40
are starting today to understand what it was like for us,01:20:43
how it was all01:20:46
difficult01:20:49
and the pressure of time on a01:20:51
person is01:20:53
one hundred and01:20:55
one way or another they are01:20:58
put again and they are01:21:02
usually put through I as a hero of our time01:21:05
always manifests himself through a novel like a01:21:08
hero of our time ideal01:21:10
teenage prose namely teenage prose by01:21:17
Otte01:21:21
Reni01:21:23
Chu this is what Leonid Kaganov does for everything01:21:25
I treat with great01:21:29
respect and love Lenya is a wonderful01:21:33
satirist, a brilliant poet, a very strong science fiction01:21:36
writer, and this01:21:39
poem, in my opinion, is a01:21:47
genius, you understand, in general, these are the01:21:51
steps of happiness that, in general, did not start with me,01:21:55
but continued quite intensely with me the01:21:57
only person01:21:59
who also succeeds in this is Kaganov.01:22:02
I am proud of the way he does it in Well,01:22:05
Kaganov is generally a very brave guy,01:22:07
brave, kind and terribly gifted, there are01:22:10
very few such01:22:12
people. Recommend a textbook on Russian01:22:15
literature from the end of the 10th to the beginning of the 10th century. Well, a01:22:18
two-volume set of dry books01:22:21
is good,01:22:23
I can It’s easy for you to recommend a textbook on01:22:26
American literature, here’s the best book01:22:29
about American prose writers, such then still01:22:31
contemporary, now of course the classics,01:22:34
written by ma b books 10 American01:22:37
writers I bought this because for01:22:40
me Malkom Brd is, first of all, the author of the01:22:42
Great Novel exchange01:22:48
rates01:22:51
about from Minsky and two others I do01:22:55
n’t remember any wonderful authors now,01:22:57
but I bought his philological works for the first time01:23:01
and here is a book of 10 American01:23:03
writers, it’s simply Great. I gave up01:23:06
all my academic reading, everything01:23:09
I had to do in literature,01:23:11
I gave up and started reading this Because you ca01:23:13
n’t put it down. And between01:23:16
especially if we take textbooks on the01:23:19
literature of the 20th century.01:23:23
Unfortunately, there is no such fundamental01:23:26
textbook in which there would be some kind of01:23:30
centralized, somewhat essential01:23:32
view of the problem;01:23:51
understatement01:23:53
Therefore, it’s best to read Well, it was a01:23:56
good two-volume text, I don’t remember who01:23:58
wrote it, but in my opinion it’s best to01:24:02
read modern criticism criticism of01:24:06
contemporaries, for example,01:24:09
better than Tynianov’s article, the gap,01:24:13
no one wrote anything about the twenties01:24:17
Shamov’s article in the Barsu block Nora, too, few01:24:21
people wrote structure literary01:24:24
critics what Lev Aninsky,01:24:27
who VL wrote, a unique chronicle of the literature of the01:24:30
6s of the nineties, what Elena01:24:33
Ivanitskaya wrote in the nineties, what01:24:36
Sinyavsky wrote in the new world in the sixties, and the01:24:40
best textbook of literature appears to be01:24:42
modern to Mark Shcheglov, who was the01:24:45
main critic of Otli in the fifth years And01:24:48
most importantly hope if the horse had not died or01:24:52
you are a genius, that is, you need to read01:24:57
writers' polemics and diaries and B, which is01:25:00
also very valuable. You need to01:25:03
read criticism from smart, talented01:25:07
contemporaries. Conceptualism is very01:25:12
easy in numbers. Should you read leather? Well,01:25:15
probably leather to complement the01:25:19
picture01:25:25
as part of the ideological the struggles of those years, we01:25:27
probably need to read this, we are about01:25:30
fascist literature, literature that01:25:32
led to fascism, including Thomas Ma,01:25:35
political reasoning, we read But there’s01:25:38
no01:25:40
way around it. What is the best thing to read about the01:25:42
psychology of a teenager, but I bought a lot of books01:25:53
about teenagers, everything that’s there this is a01:25:56
psychoanalytic book, but it is very01:25:59
useful precisely because there are01:26:03
wonderful chapters about hierarchy, about the fact01:26:07
that it is important for a teenager to break someone else’s01:26:10
hierarchy of values, but still, at any01:26:13
cost, to build his own; a teenager is always not01:26:16
so much a fighter against God as a01:26:19
bogota on bom tr on material,01:26:24
including artistic literature01:26:26
main Well, you understand the scale of01:26:28
values of a teenager, the scale of his01:26:31
needs, this is what was written, this is written without01:26:35
such a frenzied psychoanalytic01:26:37
approach, written with deep compassion01:26:40
With an understanding of the colossal challenges01:26:44
that a teenager faces, this01:26:47
book seemed terribly01:26:51
interesting to me01:26:53
where is Yegor Zhukov now in one good01:26:56
American university where I am Davichi01:26:59
spoke and with him01:27:03
I saw that the best thing is from Henry01:27:08
[ __ ] I never understood01:27:11
Henry [ __ ] so much and I read so little of him01:27:15
Well, probably everyone should read01:27:19
where were you Adam and people who are01:27:22
interested in Catholicism and Faith these01:27:25
days should probably read through the eyes of a01:27:30
clown who something a group portrait with a lady will say,01:27:33
but I With all due01:27:41
respect to the great flick Lily01:27:46
Black, whom I remember01:27:49
introducing01:27:51
me to,01:27:53
she01:27:54
was an absolutely brilliant translator,01:27:58
translated this same group portrait with a01:28:02
lady with all my deep love for her and01:28:06
admiration, I have never read this book01:28:09
I couldn’t read it to01:28:13
[music] the01:28:14
end You see, here’s01:28:22
to know Well, after all, Nobel is all01:28:27
business And I just couldn’t find in myself01:28:31
any point of contact with this01:28:34
book. You understand, I have very01:28:37
limited taste Well, it’s like Sebald Yes,01:28:40
everyone says that Sebald or Sebald is01:28:43
different, I’ve seen01:28:51
this pronunciation, I understand that he has smart thoughts01:28:55
and that this01:28:57
approach to the work of trauma and the work of memory is probably in demand.01:29:02
Well, you know all this Volapyuk, but I01:29:05
can’t read it. Well, it’s painful. I’m bored,01:29:09
it feels like instead of something01:29:12
strong or instead of good tea, I01:29:16
always drink some kind of01:29:19
station beer in one of the01:29:21
American01:29:23
German ones, in one of the German ones, even01:29:25
boto in one of the European medium-sized01:29:28
cities at the station where no one is01:29:30
waiting for me all the time. Such a feeling01:29:33
You see, you probably happened to01:29:35
come to a European city in which there is a01:29:39
huge history. It once was, it01:29:43
ended, you go out on these sacred01:29:46
stones, you see these churches, cathedrals, stations,01:29:50
museums, all the time you have the feeling that you are01:29:53
absolutely not needed here, the same01:29:56
feeling I have zi badom on the contrary, when01:29:59
I read the prose of the vase waltz, whatever it01:30:02
is, are his last novels written01:30:06
on these tiny pieces in01:30:08
calligraphic handwriting with the smallest01:30:10
beads, are these his first stories, are they01:30:13
famous, is this a walk, when I01:30:15
read the line, I understand that this is, of course, a01:30:18
sick person, a sick consciousness and01:30:20
absolutely pathologists pathological01:30:23
personality type, but he is so dear You see,01:30:26
every one of his can be this after01:30:29
Shishkin’s brilliant about him But no matter how much I01:30:33
read Sebald, I cannot achieve01:30:36
such a resonance and Walser01:30:39
and Whose life has nothing in common With01:30:44
mine and his feverish fun of his01:30:48
constant sadness and his fear of01:30:50
people and attraction to them, everything is so01:30:53
dear. I think the problem is01:30:55
that Walser was a very talented01:30:58
writer, this explains everything - talent is01:31:01
like pepper, food without pepper, food without salt,01:31:05
when there is no salt, then the taste benefits01:31:09
can be any but talent is the salt01:31:12
that will add flavor and tension to everything01:31:15
that happens to you,01:31:17
but I don’t know if you can01:31:20
do without it, so to speak.01:31:22
What is better in Viktor Astafiev and Yuri01:31:28
Trifonov Well, Trifonov, of course, has01:31:32
stories of the second half of the sixties,01:31:35
games in the twilight, the winner the01:31:38
death of pigeons the smallest city a short01:31:42
stay in the torture chamber Although this is01:31:46
later, and of the stories I love most of all,01:31:54
farewell to the horse, just understand the long01:31:56
farewell - this is done absolutely magically at the level of prose at the level of01:32:00
language, I01:32:03
love it most when01:32:05
schoolchildren ask me how to01:32:08
write there prose that seems ideal to me01:32:11
I always read this first01:32:15
paragraph from a long01:32:19
farewell01:32:20
to them, it’s01:32:22
definitely not01:32:26
a story, there are practically no things in Trifonov01:32:29
that I wouldn’t like and the old man is01:32:32
absolutely brilliant, very complex, very01:32:34
encrypted prose and time and place, an01:32:38
absolutely great novel There’s01:32:40
nothing to say, but here is a long forgiveness, I think I01:32:44
love it01:32:50
more01:32:53
in this place, there were a lot of01:32:56
lilacs where the meat store is now, the01:32:59
wooden country fence was turning yellow, everything01:33:03
was country here, the people who lived here01:33:05
believed that they lived in the country, and01:33:08
lilacs were piled above the fence; their magnificent01:33:11
forms were not able to stay within the01:33:13
fence shimmered onto the street nev01:33:17
lilac01:33:20
lo lo Nerli she continued to maintain01:33:24
her feminine roundness and every01:33:26
spring she covered this insignificant dusty street with01:33:30
flowers and smell when she bloomed and01:33:33
stood all in foam she looked like a01:33:37
city like the Old Town by the sea in the south where the01:33:40
streets are cut into the rocks where the Houses are built on top of each01:33:43
other in a city with monasteries01:33:46
with winding stone staircases where01:33:48
old women sit in the shade on the stones selling01:33:51
tulkas from shells, it reminded the Old01:33:54
City at the hour of Twilight, but however, all this01:33:57
was a long time ago, now in the place of the siren there is an01:34:03
eight-story building that housed a01:34:06
meat store then in times of lilacs, the residents of01:34:10
the house behind the yellow dacha fence01:34:12
went far for meat by tram from the01:34:15
Vagankovo market. And now it would be01:34:18
very convenient for them to buy meat,01:34:22
but now,01:34:24
unfortunately, they don’t live there. I would even01:34:28
add They don’t live anywhere, but here, of course,01:34:33
every reader noticed the reference to01:34:35
Tolstoy prologue Sunday, no matter how hard01:34:38
people tried, they gathered several hundred01:34:41
thousand into one01:34:44
small Well, a reference to its01:34:47
smallest city, it was similar to the01:34:49
Southern city of Sumy, but you understand, one01:34:53
first phrase, just by the rhythm of dying,01:34:55
once about 18 years ago there were a lot of people in this place01:35:00
and you won’t be able to tear away this music01:35:04
And then, in general, a brilliant edge in the01:35:07
brilliant Lyalya, you won’t be able to tear yourself away from such a01:35:10
beautiful thing, by the way, the film adaptation of the Ursulyak01:35:12
nano is the best thing he did amazing01:35:14
Agureeva01:35:16
And I really love the preliminary results, but the01:35:20
preliminary results are the most understandable, the01:35:22
simplest thing of his, the exchange is absolutely01:35:26
divine Magic notes neighbor from01:35:30
Wordovsk Yes, in general, everything he wrote01:35:32
starting in sixty-nine was01:35:37
brilliant, although01:35:39
he began to write stories of a turning point period01:35:46
even on students, disgusting01:35:49
books will not say anything, morally01:35:52
disgusting, such an attempt at an apology for01:35:56
Belov from the embankment embankment even01:35:59
lies with the students than we don’t mix the01:36:02
unmistakable imprint of talent,01:36:05
this is like salt as for Viktor01:36:10
Astafiev, probably the Tsar01:36:13
Fish because it’s intermediate01:36:16
Frozen between his mature, powerful01:36:20
prose, too scary, too01:36:22
frank and previously still quite01:36:26
Soviet And this, like everything in the01:36:31
seventies, is a very complex book narrative in01:36:34
stories and the whole line of Akim and the girl01:36:38
there is of course01:36:42
amazing Well, in general, it’s good to01:36:45
read Ostaev of such a mature shepherd and it’s01:36:50
very classy Although she was scolded terribly01:36:54
But from military things, she seems better than him to me01:36:57
Well, the damned and the killed, you understand I01:37:00
understand that this is great, but there is01:37:02
such a thing how the pleasure of reading01:37:04
it cannot be confused with anything as a monument01:37:07
to war as a monument to his military experience01:37:10
This is absolutely brilliant,01:37:13
but the pleasure is very much - this is Astafiev’s01:37:17
last bow01:37:20
Astafiev01:37:22
may be a cheerful01:37:24
soldier and leaving the king of Pisces, so I would say,01:37:29
despite the fact that to him I like since01:37:32
he always said that the damned murdered man is a masterpiece01:37:35
Yes, a masterpiece But not for every reader not01:37:37
every reader will go through this I01:37:40
already quoted the words of Vasily Bykov, he01:37:42
remembered everything that I tried The01:37:52
Siberian01:37:54
Yenisei are very very01:37:58
useful according to the testimony of Suvorin01:38:00
Dostoevsky was going to make Alyosha a01:38:02
political criminal in the second Volume01:38:05
Karamazov Alexey Karamazov isn’t01:38:07
this the future Alexey Naval Yes, no,01:38:11
of course the psychotype is completely different and I01:38:15
think that the Easter joy that01:38:21
Asha is trying to feel in the01:38:23
chapter is probably the best probably the main one01:38:28
here is01:38:30
where else wine more wine here the01:38:33
father appears for Sima carrying wine turning water01:38:37
into wine kana Galilean01:38:40
it seems to me that it’s01:38:43
not01:38:50
boiling01:38:54
naval in ono penalties I01:38:57
motivate as for regicide01:39:00
as far as I remember it’s not01:39:02
Suvorin check not the Surin01:39:05
testimony ostrav according to this plan01:39:08
he tells with fear but maybe01:39:10
Suvorin another question was so with01:39:13
Dostoevsky01:39:20
Suvo it’s for evil by writing one very01:39:24
nasty01:39:25
letter Tolstoy01:39:28
But the idea of making Alyosha a regicide is01:39:31
quite01:39:33
obvious from the example of Alyosha, maybe01:39:36
Dostoevsky wanted to show the fatal01:39:40
disastrous path using the example of Alyosha,01:39:43
maybe he wanted to show the terrible dead end01:39:46
Bloody in which this will come, this cannot be ruled out01:39:54
for me, the most interesting thing there would be the01:39:56
line of Mitya who, having turned out to be innocent,01:39:59
returns and maybe I don’t01:40:02
rule it out, humanity is beginning to take revenge for what it has experienced,01:40:05
for slander, for hard labor for a01:40:08
pear, which of course won’t01:40:12
wait for it, it would be interesting, and even01:40:19
without writing the main book, or if it had01:40:24
approached like the kushny told, all that would be left01:40:27
from Russia would be this01:40:29
terrible book poems if01:40:31
Dostoevsky was a poet It seems to me that01:40:34
his Great Main Book remained01:40:37
Unwritten because in this book he01:40:49
spreads to the state of the church to01:40:52
Leontiev to Pobedonostsev, he also went in01:40:57
this direction, he also made the Grand01:41:00
Inquisitor which is the most01:41:02
terrible prophecy about the Russian fate01:41:05
If not to count Muraz Murav of01:41:09
Gogol, which was predicted by Judas01:41:12
I think in the second Volume I think that it was01:41:16
Dostoevsky who was on the threshold of the01:41:19
Great Revelation, would he have made Alyosha the01:41:22
regicides I don’t know, after all,01:41:26
Karamaz01:41:28
Karakozov is the source of the plan Speaks01:41:31
for itself,01:41:33
but I think that he has the plan, as always01:41:37
it happened that in a year of work it01:41:40
would rapidly transform where it would01:41:42
take him, it is completely01:41:46
unclear what is happening to us today - a01:41:49
civil war or a01:41:53
premonition. Well, Sholokhov said that the01:41:55
Civil War in Russia01:41:58
did not stop, he told his son in this01:42:00
year when they01:42:02
watched a film on the fiftieth anniversary of the01:42:04
end of the civil war Mikhail01:42:06
Mikhailovich01:42:08
asked Batyan What do you think, when did the01:42:11
civil war end? Batyan01:42:13
answered the phone and said It may01:42:18
not have ended, I’m afraid that’s the case.01:42:21
I think that this answer betrays the01:42:24
author of the Quiet Don. I think01:42:27
that the civil war, the cold01:42:29
civil war, Oleg01:42:32
Khlebnikov’s term is coming to Russia is permanently01:42:35
and I also think01:42:39
that today we are experiencing an obvious01:42:42
civil war, which is connected with a huge01:42:45
migration, a huge01:42:47
outflow of01:42:49
VM, I repeat, but many do not want to01:42:52
understand the problem is not you, you are not the author of01:42:54
the question, many others, the problem is that01:42:57
you understand that the civil war then01:43:02
was caused by flight from the Revolution and01:43:06
today’s attempts by the counter-revolution to01:43:09
pass off what is happening in Russia as a01:43:11
revolution Well, formally, this is a revolution01:43:15
because it is a change of Elite, a change of vector, a01:43:17
turn of the country into the past, but this is01:43:21
even the term conservative01:43:22
conservative revolution - this is an oxymoron, a01:43:25
revolution that leads back leads to the01:43:27
past, this is a counter-revolution, a reaction or01:43:30
what said by Herman in the film It’s Hard01:43:32
to Be a God of the Renaissance there was no01:43:35
reaction to something that almost didn’t happen That’s01:43:39
all, and since this system,01:43:42
unlike Bolshevism, has nothing to offer except01:43:45
constant executions, you understand these01:43:48
executions, these pogroms, these bans,01:43:51
massacres, the01:43:53
absurdity did not enter sooner or later01:43:56
will enter And already entered the critical01:43:58
hundred elections without elections and so on This is an01:44:02
imitation life and one should not think that the01:44:08
new Kim dynasty is possible in Russia there is no such01:44:12
dynasty in Russia there has not been and01:44:15
will not be this system is cracking and book Ira is a01:44:20
snow coma and is killing himself and01:44:22
Nuno is reborn in the end, the01:44:25
same thing that01:44:27
happened as a result of01:44:29
Stalinism will probably happen to her. It’s just that after Stalinism there01:44:31
may have been a Thaw. And after Putin, I’m01:44:35
not intentionally saying anything after01:44:37
Putinism because there is no Putinism,01:44:39
either ideologically or stylistically. And01:44:43
this Epoch didn’t even give birth to its own style,01:44:48
so talk about some kind of01:44:51
civil war, it can be long, like01:44:54
any turmoil, but anyway it is01:44:57
objectively01:45:00
doomed, so to speak. Tell us about the books that01:45:03
describe the life in Germany of those Germans01:45:05
who did not support the gi Gan01:45:08
Fallada, everything but especially everyone dies01:45:13
alone,01:45:19
noticing the absolutely brilliant history01:45:22
of the German literature of the thirties01:45:25
during the time of Nazism, and Nazi01:45:27
literature This is now considered01:45:29
very useful, you know, after all, we have forgotten01:45:31
the authors of the01:45:33
official German texts of that time,01:45:35
all of them romantic Tales about the01:45:38
formation of a nation, sentimental01:45:40
love prose, journalistic pamphlets01:45:44
about the fight against the enemies of Nations, all this was the01:45:48
book History of German Literature, head of the01:45:51
Russian author01:45:53
wonderful researchers It01:45:55
came out in a small edition I bought it in St. Petersburg in the order of01:45:58
words in an insignificant edition Well, read it,01:46:01
by the way, I’ll google it now Maybe01:46:03
it’s here somewhere too What can you01:46:07
say Marguerite01:46:12
RSR didn’t read anything, so it01:46:19
seemed to me that the author of the note from01:46:23
the underground this is Putin's psychotype Well,01:46:29
yes, of course,01:46:31
but in general Putin's psychotype is aka01:46:34
Akakievich Bashmachkin, but only now he01:46:36
has risen as a terrible ghost01:46:39
who tears off his greatcoat. But even01:46:40
as this ghost of the guys, he can01:46:43
only say this and the01:46:47
prize is01:46:49
simple.01:46:56
Tell us about Dobrovsky and the novel01:46:59
Guardian of antiquity Julia, I wrote quite a lot01:47:03
about Dombrovsky, I refer you to an01:47:05
article about him Gypsies, it’s called01:47:09
Dombrovsky, I love more of course01:47:12
the faculty and the birth of a01:47:14
mouse, significant nor Derzhavin in whom the01:47:19
house is a cat Dombrovsky managed to01:47:23
talk about the01:47:25
style of interrogations about overcrowded01:47:28
prisons about night calls about arrests about01:47:31
how people are forced to01:47:34
invent crimes for themselves and then01:47:37
incriminate themselves, everything is told Under the01:47:39
pretext of fighting Pugach, the generally01:47:41
brilliant Roman Yuri Dombrovsky was01:47:47
a genius, I’m lying,01:47:49
this poem wanted to kill me01:47:53
These [ __ ], this01:47:55
poem is amnesty apocryphal Well, this is a01:47:59
novel Guardian antiquity in which with01:48:02
amazing01:48:04
power Well, I’m not talking now about the Great01:48:07
prophetic anthropological novel01:48:09
the monkey comes for his skull,01:48:11
much in this novel became clear01:48:13
only now, but also Shakespeare’s01:48:17
great book,01:48:19
you understand01:48:21
that01:48:22
his charm was ingenious personally, even from01:48:25
his widow Clara Tumo whom I knew01:48:28
she came out well, as if she01:48:31
picked up the Banner, she inherited the01:48:34
genius of Dombrowski, his01:48:37
unique cheerful attitude to life,01:48:40
such a bit of a really gypsy01:48:49
risk,01:48:52
but not only the Almaty heat is here, but01:48:56
this Atmosphere of lies is a tapeworm for01:49:00
little things, repressive ideas that are01:49:03
carried in the cart of people who01:49:05
willingly get into denunciations and01:49:07
do this instead01:49:11
of trying to stop it in yourself in01:49:14
general Dombrovsky's knowledge of the faculty is01:49:20
f in Russian literature About repression and the01:49:22
novel itself is an amazing novel full of01:49:25
courageous men beautiful women01:49:28
of great01:49:29
deeds at the same time the novel is homeric01:49:31
funny when I read Zybin's statement01:49:35
these are all his signature to Semy01:49:38
Zybin and it was still published in01:49:40
1988. It was I who served in01:49:43
the army and I read these three issues of the new world01:49:46
in the army, furtively in fits and starts, there01:49:49
was no time.01:49:51
But such oxygen was blown on me from there by01:49:56
Dombrowski, even painting, I was stuffy01:49:59
about pre-war France in a01:50:02
monkey. In Germany, in the monkey of01:50:07
pre-war Almaty, he managed to01:50:11
saturate this01:50:12
space with oxygen and ozone of his01:50:16
freedom. Well, let's talk about stern ka Makati.01:50:20
Why did I even take on this01:50:24
in the first place because there are a lot of01:50:26
requests of this kind? It is clear that01:50:29
stern ka Makar is loved for the journey for the01:50:32
elderly here not a place And not for01:50:35
its prose in itself, which01:50:38
has been filmed a lot, but the spirit that is01:50:40
completely01:50:49
impossible to convey,01:50:52
but I respect him, this writer is definitely a01:50:57
real writer, I discussed with many people,01:51:00
especially with professionals from philology with01:51:03
American writers, I discussed01:51:06
the phenomenon of his01:51:07
success, here is Eduard Khor, a wonderful a01:51:10
writer with whom I was very friendly in the core01:51:15
[music]01:51:18
o But there are a lot of unfamiliar words and, most importantly, a01:51:23
lot of01:51:25
violence, a feeling arises. That's what he01:51:28
knows, in fact, this is not knowledge of life,01:51:32
this is a vision of the world. When you read01:51:35
Blood Meridian, you quickly01:51:37
become sick of it a terrible01:51:40
amount of not even blood, but01:51:44
mud,01:51:48
slushy rain, then it all freezes,01:51:52
the hero goes to the Mexican border,01:51:54
there, the Mule’s corpse, scorched by the sun to stone01:51:57
hardness, all the time means01:52:01
urine, blood, they kill everyone, they rip off their scalps01:52:05
And most importantly, someone correctly01:52:07
wrote how many readers, how many01:52:09
critics, so many interpretations of the blood01:52:12
meridian for me Blood Meridian is a01:52:15
novel about what01:52:17
underlies the world, what it seems to say01:52:21
Now we live in a prosperous01:52:23
America and moreover, We live in a rich01:52:26
and prosperous America, please01:52:29
remember that this country has blood in its past01:52:32
under the tears, the dirt of murder and never01:52:36
anything good, please remember that the01:52:39
basis of the world is endless violence, but01:52:43
strictly speaking, all this has already been expressed01:52:47
in his First, somewhat significant01:52:50
Well, satri is very good, but I have01:52:52
n’t read it, but the son of man This is the story of a01:52:55
mentally disabled maniac who01:52:59
commits all the time01:53:01
means rape and then01:53:05
rapes these corpses and lives with these corpses in a hut, that is,01:53:08
Roman physically stinks of01:53:13
constant stench By the way, Makati has a01:53:15
lot of this stench, then the hero says that01:53:18
his hand is rotting and it stinks, it constantly01:53:22
reeks of urine from everyone Well, this is when01:53:25
he kills this full01:53:28
-fledged mental maniac, first his own dad,01:53:31
then a couple. Lovers under Crowley,01:53:33
then these girls are dragged to the hut and01:53:36
there they work in the best way. It is assumed that01:53:39
when you read all this you experience01:53:41
two feelings, firstly, Oh, how terrible published by01:53:45
life and its basis which McCarthy knows01:53:49
And I don’t know myself guys he doesn’t know01:53:52
the basis of life the basis of life01:53:56
is, generally speaking, love compassion01:53:58
sentimentality Mercy01:54:01
Well, something human Makati heroes01:54:04
do not show anything human they01:54:06
kill with colossal ease perhaps01:54:10
the only one McCarthy's novel, in which01:54:12
there is something human,01:54:15
is the last nor the second on01:54:20
ideology, in my opinion it was published in two01:54:22
parts only for financial reasons,01:54:24
but God bless01:54:26
them. It seems to me01:54:29
that at least the heroes there really01:54:32
threaten their conscience; there the heroine goes01:54:34
crazy because her father participated in01:54:37
nuclear project and she is now01:54:39
terribly ashamed of him and she Therefore,01:54:48
Romanov Makar’s revolution begins to suffer, for example,01:54:52
with the post-apocalyptic procession of01:54:55
father and son through a scorched world And01:54:59
most of his novels strike such a01:55:02
terrible inhumanity In the most literal01:55:04
sense there is no man there And why01:55:07
should I empathize with the boy the nameless01:55:10
hero of the blood meridian a person without a01:55:13
name has no properties a person who01:55:16
has the instinct of survival and murder in01:55:20
no way01:55:23
sympathize with me I alone cannot deny this is what01:55:27
he did this is what he created When you01:55:30
read Ma Carti Blood Meridian has a01:55:33
second title crimson01:55:36
sunset you understand he created your01:55:39
gothic Kafkaesque world When you01:55:42
read the description of01:55:50
some horses with some strange01:55:53
riders in ugly hats or the01:55:56
same scary Indians, this is a Gothic01:56:00
world a little similar to the same01:56:02
gothic world of Stephen King's dark tower01:56:05
This is the world of American Gothic, the world of01:56:08
strange people who wander through the01:56:11
endless spaces New people on01:56:14
bare land in America a man without01:56:17
European history was born here he01:56:20
has to write everything again he kills01:56:23
without much thought because he has to01:56:25
survive he dies without much01:56:28
thought because he does not have time to01:56:29
understand what happened Blood01:56:32
Meridian - This is the history of a01:56:36
country that was built from scratch01:56:39
on a huge wasteland but not like Russia on a01:56:42
shifting swamp But on solid ground the solid01:56:45
ground of financial relations and let’s say01:56:50
the terms of a gigantic01:56:53
deal but on solid ground but on01:56:56
terrible empty scorched soil and that’s01:56:59
when you read from Makar these descriptions of01:57:02
spaces where it smells of eternal fire01:57:05
or eternal gunpowder or eternal rain01:57:08
When you see these vast01:57:10
expanses of a world that is not hostile, which is the01:57:12
worst thing, indifferent to the01:57:14
words of mute01:57:18
children, you have a feeling of some01:57:21
gloomy grandeur of some gloomy Gothic01:57:24
and McCarthy Yes, he knew something about man,01:57:28
some new knowledge about the person he01:57:30
brought into this, but living with this knowledge is not01:57:33
pleasant for me personally, this is where we explain01:57:35
my hostility, I am very01:57:40
complex, these accessories, saddles,01:57:44
girths, and all these features of01:57:47
weapons, ammunition,01:57:50
coal mining, mining there, and all this, I01:57:53
climbed the dictionary constantly, but I sat on principle01:57:55
I was reading, but it was nothing, I01:57:57
had a window between lectures, I was sitting in the01:58:00
Labyrinth store and reading,01:58:02
which means, or Blood Meridian01:58:06
And it was an unpleasant task, but it01:58:09
was an task that gave me self-respect,01:58:12
of course,01:58:13
with him01:58:18
[ __ ] in a week01:58:41
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