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In 1945 Claude Chabrol stood here
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facing the German enemy. Today
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this pedestrian bridge connects the
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French Strasbourg and the German
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team.
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For Claude Chabrol and his comrades,
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the Rhine was then the border to a
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neighbor who had repeatedly brought death and
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ruin.
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The feeling that they were now 20 year
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old when this kind of pasolini
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or step line that changed everything
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for me the rhine
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I find the feeling again after it
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revives the satisfaction
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I had the impression of suddenly
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being immersed in a changed war
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the war was different now it should
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take place in Germany In the country
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that was for me for the child that I was
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the country of the invaders,
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thousands of French soldiers
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still lost their lives in these last weeks of the war,
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but the first French army could
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no longer be stopped.
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Germany's surrender was only
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a matter of time.
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In my childhood I was an officer That
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Germany was the archenemy was a
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mixture of admiration, fear and
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distrust
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for Claude Busse Golf family there are
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two Germanys the country of poets
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and thinkers and the country of militarists
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the mother played Schubert on the
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piano the children read Goethe and
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Schiller
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I have to stay with my parents Nobody hates it,
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on the contrary, my parents
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adored German poetry and
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German music but my father
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always said dog squadron war 14 18 so it
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's only a matter of time when
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the Germans next
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invade as if there has to be a war every 30
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years and
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In fact, like his grandfather
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and father, Claude Boussa Goll also has to go to
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war against the Germans.
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These wars between the Germans and the
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French. As an Alsatian, Frederik, who
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particularly suffered from them,
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on April 20, 1945, he was with the first
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French army here at Renault On the
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Rhine,
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the Germans blew up almost all the bridges,
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the French crossed over, it
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was actually the border.
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We wanted to go to the other side to
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show them that we still
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existed because the four years we had to work with the
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German nuclear power plants were to be lamented and
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that is Incredible,
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we will never forget that, she was
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still very young at the age of 20,
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not like our fathers who fought in the First
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World War. Kastel,
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Frederik Baer's hometown in
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Alsace-Lorraine An
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eventful history back and
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forth in June 1940, Hitler occupied Alsace
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Lorraine. The region became radically Germanized.
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Most of the young men were
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forcibly recruited first for labor service and
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then for the Wehrmacht.
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I was drafted on April 18, 1942
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and it was very, very hard because
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we didn't want the German uniforms
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wear
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the Germans make Frederick Fritz
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B back
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then that was unbelievable. There were
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worlds apart between the Germans and the French. We went to the
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French school. Personally, I went to school for nine
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years
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Then
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having to go to war with the Germans, her
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father comforted her at the beginning,
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he told me eight, it doesn't bother her, it will
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pass, you just have to get used to it,
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but six months later he said they
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are no longer the same Germans as those
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Germans in the First World War are
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different on the Eastern Front, Frederik loses
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his brother.
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He himself is able to secede from the Wehrmacht in the summer of 1943,
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but the Soviets initially hold him in
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a camp as a German
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prisoner of war. Through a
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prisoner exchange he finally ends up
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in Algeria with the
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French army. Now he can
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finally act as a soldier French people fight against the
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Germans who have already brought so much suffering on
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their people.
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14 million French soldiers lay in
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the military cemeteries of France after the First World War. There was
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hardly a
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family that had not lost a father, a son
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or a brother.
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In the early summer of 1940, the
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Germans invaded France again
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Hundreds of thousands of French people have to
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flee from German tanks and
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German bombs
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and Hitler triumphs in Paris. 18
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million French people go into
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German captivity.
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Many will not survive. In revenge
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for the resistance,
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the German occupiers shoot 30,000
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French
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hostages. Thousands of resistance fighters deport
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them to concentration camps
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as well as over 75,000 French Jews,
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only a few of whom will return
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shortly after the liberation of Paris,
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the last deportation train leaves the
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Drancy assembly camp. I know how many from a
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Jewish family will not return
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The Gestapo arrested
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but can fly. In 1945 he also invaded southern Germany with
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the French army.
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You shouldn't forget that I had only
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just escaped from the hands of the Gestapo,
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that I was tortured, that I had
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fought as a resistance fighter against the Germans, that 21 of my
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family members were from the Germans
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had been deported and no longer
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came back. Undoubtedly, I felt a
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feeling of revenge and satisfaction that
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the war was over
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when French soldiers opened
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the gates of the
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concentration camps with the Allies.
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Any help came too late for thousands of prisoners,
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including for many members of Juma
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Tories It wasn't until the invasion of
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Germany in 1945 that his
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worst fears became a cruel
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certainty.
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I'll never forget that,
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even today when I think about it. It's
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very hard,
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of course I hated the Germans. There
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was no other way,
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innocent people who
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were massacred just because they were Jews
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was unbearable when the head of government
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visited the troops in the spring of 1945
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and symbolically crossed the Rhine,
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the end of Nazi rule was
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sealed.
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De Gaulle wanted to quickly gain ground in order to
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substantiate the claim to a French occupation zone.
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After Pforzheim, Karlsruhe and Baden-Baden,
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the strategically important
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Freudenstadt was to be taken
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Claude Chabrol is also
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on the way to Freudenstadt with his unit on April 16th
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as a medic, he is taking care of
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the wounded.
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For me it feels like a kind of
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justice, punishment for what
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happened. My first reaction
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in Germany was months ago
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Now it's your turn. Let the
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war take place with you.
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The French have to be on their guard. There are
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still scattered German
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Wehrmacht units In
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1940, the whole of Freudenstadt cheered for the
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leader when he visited the wounded there after the
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French campaign.
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Given the numerous hospitals in the
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city, the people of Freudenstadt hope to be spared from the war until the
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end.
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A small werewolf group wants to stop the
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French a few kilometers from
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Freudenstadt
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Fight but the troops
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cling to the leader's words.
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A German Freikorps is lurking in the forest.
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Hans' combat troops are fighting a
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battle with the
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French across the line.
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They now suspect that there are additional defense
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troops in the city The
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flag was hoisted
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on Monday, April 16, 1945. The
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French are driving heavy artillery on the
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grenades that hit mine.
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If they had all gone through,
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I wouldn't be here
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a shock because
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everything collapsed, not what we had
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previously believed and hoped for and
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what we had fought for. Money for
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Germany. We fought for Germany.
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We clashed with the soldiers. We
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fought with them inside.
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The war was so far far away. The fathers
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and men The front
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now reaches the idyllic vacation spot,
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puts women and children in fear
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and terror.
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This first rocket stands
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over us with tremendous force. If
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the glass had been bigger, it would have been better for him.
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My father wasn't there, just with my
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mother and me My little sister
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Anna is still trying to save what could be
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saved.
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When the young paramedic Claude Boussa
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Goll is on his way into the city,
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he has no idea what awaits him there.
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The people are desperately trying to
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put out the fire, but almost the entire
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old town just burns down
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three weeks before the war ended
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it was the first time that I came to a
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city that was on fire
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instead of a war with weapons against
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weapons I was suddenly
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faced with civilians there were almost no men
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there only older women and children
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and first of all I once saw how
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the German population
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had to suffer from the horrors of the war,
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even though they were of course unarmed.
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Either two SS were still part of the Wehrmacht
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and suddenly I had a completely
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different picture of the war. Claude Chabrol
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is a medic and there are many injured people in the city
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He wants to help but just like in the night
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he gets the marching orders again.
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As he's leaving he finds a
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seriously injured man from Freudenstadt.
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He's desperately looking for a hospital for
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him. A German doctor came to me,
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very tired and overloaded in this
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entrance hall where injured people were lying around on
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stretchers They were in
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pain and they needed and
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could only smell injured people. I told him
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that I had an injured German for
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her. He could reject him.
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He tried to tell me that I
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should keep him. He told me I could
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n't take care of him. You
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see What condition are the
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injured here in?
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I had to make my last bandages with paper. Of
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course I didn't run with
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me on the way to the front.
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We both went out to check on him.
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He leaned over the injured man. He
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came back up and looked at me
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and told me he was dead.
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The advancing units were occupying
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a city that was 40 percent destroyed.
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We could hear them from far away making this
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noise as they drove. They wanted to go all the way
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around the street
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and then the first one drove over these
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caps over this wall and they drove in
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master everything and stood to the left of the house
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directly in front of our offices and
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got out of the tank very quickly everywhere
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the colonial troops have to march in first
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as so-called shock troops, which is why they suffer
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the greatest losses even
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at the end of the war
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but now they are the victors were
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very drunk
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we have Gertrud had many freedoms for three days free,
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even if women in
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his field post had cameras,
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they were always warned about the possible revenge of
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the enemies. Now the
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family camera house became a place of refuge,
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an official rape and
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pillage freedom but as some people
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from Freudenstadt still believe today It
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didn't exist,
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we know that there were attacks but they
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were severely punished. The
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French army would never have
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allowed something like that and certainly not the
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Moroccans.
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As far as I know, there was a declaration
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from the general, the boy who was in charge at the time,
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and that can be verified at any time
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That every Moroccan who is
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guilty of rape
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or who is
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caught stealing is shot on the spot.
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I myself know of two executions in
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our division. Only gradually does
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the military leadership get the situation under control. Contemporary witnesses
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report that hundreds of
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women have been raped. There are exact figures
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Not
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after taking Freudenstadt,
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the French move on. They
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absolutely want to take Stuttgart before the Americans
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and advance to Lake Constance.
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The French soldiers face a
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long, arduous march through the
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Black Forest. Starving and
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exhausted, they come through a
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rural area that has so far been
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largely spared from the war What remained was what
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I most hoped for from Germany back then,
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which was to eat properly.
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I have 20, I've been hungry for five years.
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We passed through a rich area.
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We had the impression that the people had
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hardly noticed anything about the war. That was what happened
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Berlin or Dresden cannot be
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compared, they were wealthy
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regions where there was a lot of food and we
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ate a lot.
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Rebek he had experienced four years of German
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occupation. Now he is the
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owner and the Germans are afraid
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of revenge. The
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population was very afraid and
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I was having fun So back then I
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annoyed them a bit.
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I took away their bread or their
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eggs. He sensed the fear of the farmers. He
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could treat them the same way as the
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German occupiers treated the French.
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One day I read to a woman from a
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small German magazine
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French as well as
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in German
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if you don't tell us where you have something to
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eat you will be shot like
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I show you the booklet and said
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you see they had
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written up such documents when they were in France
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we were told if they didn't show us what they
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had They will be shot
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and now I'm telling him so give
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me your eggs Orie just wants to
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eat his fill. On April 20th 1945
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he writes to his parents that he has
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made himself an omelette out of 25 eggs.
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The French
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troops are still meeting scattered Wehrmacht troops everywhere
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Units including many Hitler boys
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gave up Danny. We saw that there
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were children, boys of 15 who had been drafted here and
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who were crying and running to us. We
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refused to take prisoners of war now.
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I took a piece of paper and wrote on it in
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French and English
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that they were going home
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It was easy to be ashamed.
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The French army marched almost 200 kilometers
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across the
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Black Forest with
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the Alsatian Frederik B. The weather was
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good, not too cold, not too hot,
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but later in the Black Forest there was snow on top of the
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mountains. Below we were with our
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sleeves rolled up We started chasing
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people from the SS and it was
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snowing up there, it was very, very hard,
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we were dead tired,
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we went through the whole mountain range
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According to orders, an anti-tank barrier had been
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set up
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that people were getting
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really scared of the shooting today
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and then it was Sunday and then you went
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into the church and it suddenly said that the
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men had to put up an anti-tank barrier on
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top immediately or they would close the
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whole place together
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But after a few shots were fired, I
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took it seriously.
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A friend of mine got me and
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told me to help open the anti-tank barrier.
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I say for the camera plus to saw
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where the anti-tank barriers fall. The war
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ends quickly without unnecessary
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bloodshed.
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The French take it without a fight
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They came here the street the street we
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were up there at the window of the opera
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looked down at the window and then
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we saw that they had chickens on the tanks
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as they
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had organized somewhere
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that were the Moroccans finally
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manage to
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reach Frederik a short time later
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The young soldier will stay in a small town on Lake Constance for a few months and
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he will have to get along with the people here.
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I would say at the very beginning it did
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n't go so well because the Moroccans were the
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first here. The people were
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afraid, but here the French
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military leadership has them situation is
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now better under control, there are
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still isolated attacks,
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the parents and the two daughters were
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then raped but not right at the
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beginning
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I think it was eight or 14 days
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later
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one day when three black people have
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black hair Moroccans and they
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stood against the wall and We
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always said what was wrong with them or
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something and the next morning she was gone and
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she was apparently raped
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in the hinterland and so she was caught
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and she had something gone with another morning.
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Those were the last shots in the
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area falls on the
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eighth of may 1945 the war is over
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while all of paris is rejoicing,
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most of the french soldiers are still far from
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home
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as well as frederik b. he celebrates the day in
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a small town near
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lake constance and writes in his diary
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the joy is great War is over,
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one defines it in front of the commander Faré
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and the French flag replaces the
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swastika in the public square. At the
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evening ball we dance with the local girls.
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The soldiers would much rather have
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danced with the girls at home. Their
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families have finally seen
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the news again Peace reached
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Claude Boss AG and his division on
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the march across the Alps.
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The French also occupied part of
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Austria. The young medic celebrated
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May 8th in Feldkirch. I was very happy
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that the war was over, the right
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word. Of
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course I hadn't
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won alone, but I had this impression
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as a 20-year-old, glad that it was over and
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I was still settling in because in
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reality I then noticed
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that real life was opening up.
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I had to start my studies again.
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I will never forget that day. I
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think it was difficult It is possible
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to experience another beautiful day like this eighth time in Feldkirch.
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WWF Martin is still fighting for the
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survival of the resistance on May 8th. The fighter had to go through
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the Ravensbrück and Buch concentration camps.
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Shortly before the end of the war she was sent on one of
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the infamous death marches
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For you, the eighth of May is the day of
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liberation in the USA. Only you will find one
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of our friends had died three days
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before,
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just like that. We all thought that we
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would die, just a few more days and
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life would be over and then we saw
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soldiers coming, all of them Were very nice
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then the following happened: the commander
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whose troops had just passed a German
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castle had
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taken a sword and a crown with him.
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He gave the sword into his hand and
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put the crown on my head.
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My friend Vera said he looked
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like me Like Joan of Arc
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in August 1945, the French became the
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fourth occupying power to take over the
00:28:30
administration of their sector in Berlin.
00:28:35
Robert Like Allah arrives with the first
00:28:37
French soldiers in the German
00:28:39
capital.
00:28:48
We may have come to Berlin as victors,
00:28:52
but we were immediately moved by the suffering of the people The
00:28:56
German population at that time was
00:29:00
mostly women and children and
00:29:02
old people.
00:29:04
Maybe I think the change
00:29:10
can be a feeling of solidarity
00:29:13
and sympathy.
00:29:21
Not only the Germans are suffering from hunger,
00:29:24
the French can hardly
00:29:26
provide enough food for their own soldiers.
00:29:28
They are also relying on the help of the
00:29:29
Americans
00:29:36
I've never been so hungry. Back
00:29:38
then, the
00:29:40
American rations were soon collected. That had a
00:29:42
little moment, but often it
00:29:45
just wasn't enough and yet somehow
00:29:49
life began again for the young soldiers
00:29:52
and for the German women.
00:29:56
Sometimes I do the same the
00:29:58
others
00:29:59
I went dancing there was a small
00:30:02
ball and pulling it a group
00:30:05
of young girls also came there in my little
00:30:07
blonde who made me feel very good but
00:30:10
every time I wanted to ask her for a dance
00:30:12
I often
00:30:16
danced with a small private one
00:30:17
The German police also came by every now and then.
00:30:21
They raided
00:30:22
the girls. Roberta saves
00:30:29
his brunette from the police. The
00:30:32
Berliner Felicitas Fahrmann and he
00:30:34
become a couple
00:30:38
despite the official ban on fraternization.
00:30:41
Hardly anyone sticks to that anyway.
00:30:48
Then they have to separate He
00:30:50
falls seriously ill and is taken to a
00:30:53
sanatorium in the Black Forest. His lover
00:30:56
is not allowed to follow him,
00:30:58
even if there was no wall. The
00:31:00
Russian occupation soldiers did
00:31:02
their job well. She just couldn't get
00:31:04
through. He is supposed to get well again in a clinic in Sankt Blasien.
00:31:10
There he meets former concentration camps
00:31:13
Inmates were given medical care there.
00:31:20
Watching it was very close to me. Visas,
00:31:24
living dead who didn't want to die. They went
00:31:28
out in the Franconia. I knew one
00:31:33
time, then I didn't see him again for a while
00:31:36
and then they were closer to life again.
00:31:43
These people who didn't want to die
00:31:45
if they did had made it this far,
00:31:48
it showed how much courage they had
00:31:52
in them, the will to survive, recovered from his
00:32:02
serious illness thanks to a German
00:32:05
doctor. In
00:32:06
1946, his Felicitas was finally allowed
00:32:09
to come.
00:32:10
They got married in Sankt Blasien and
00:32:13
lived there for a few years.
00:32:19
I have a lot of friends who also
00:32:21
got married. They were really brave were
00:32:24
the ones who immediately returned to France
00:32:26
because things were made difficult for them there.
00:32:28
The French population did
00:32:31
n't immediately accept something like that. The
00:32:37
French received a large part
00:32:39
of southern Germany as an occupation zone.
00:32:42
Brenner's Park Hotel in Baden Baden was the
00:32:44
seat of the highest French
00:32:46
military government
00:32:51
Gradually replaced by occupying troops,
00:32:53
at the beginning of 1946, 200
00:32:57
thousand French soldiers and civil servants
00:33:00
and their families settled in Germany.
00:33:08
The Alsatian Jean Paul Gaillard has also been forcibly
00:33:16
recruited as a French occupying soldier in Germany since the summer of 1945. Just a few
00:33:18
weeks before, he had been forcibly recruited for the Germans on the
00:33:20
Eastern Front Having to fight in
00:33:25
1945 I loathed them Omega in
00:33:31
May 45 I only thought it was my own fault they only
00:33:36
got what they deserved
00:33:41
even though they are now one of the victors
00:33:44
and those who have power over these
00:33:46
Germans
00:33:47
but the fate of the defeated does
00:33:49
n't leave him cold either
00:33:56
Ludwigshafen
00:33:57
the city guard at the bridge of
00:33:59
Ludwigshafen it was the only bridge
00:34:01
someone could go from the American zone
00:34:03
to the French zone. There were
00:34:09
German women who were willing to
00:34:11
do anything to get over the bridge to
00:34:14
return home
00:34:21
if they wanted to Doing everything with them
00:34:29
that touched me,
00:34:31
it was almost like a rape for
00:34:34
which you had given your consent.
00:34:43
Germans and French people now live in Freudenstadt and
00:34:46
have to share everyday life with each other.
00:34:51
Of course you wouldn't have loved them, so
00:34:54
that's for sure, but it wasn't that
00:34:58
yesterday Sugar begins in
00:35:05
words. They didn't want to be with us
00:35:09
at first, not when I think there
00:35:11
was already a distance, but they were
00:35:17
actually so busy with themselves
00:35:19
that they didn't even have to
00:35:22
sort out the necessary rules.
00:35:25
Many French occupiers
00:35:28
soon followed, taking their families like elsewhere
00:35:31
They also have the best
00:35:32
living quarters here
00:35:36
in the Schaaf family's villa.
00:35:38
The director of the French school sees her.
00:35:43
She came to us sick with very
00:35:46
small stubble on her head and her
00:35:49
hair had been cut off before in France,
00:35:53
which was something the Germans could do
00:35:55
Imagine she has such a
00:35:57
hatred for the Germans and my
00:36:02
grandmother has such a hatred for the French.
00:36:04
That's what the French ski French said
00:36:15
room and they
00:36:18
cook for me then the grandmother had to
00:36:21
serve them
00:36:23
and later they really became
00:36:27
friends, the two of them but the word
00:36:30
hereditary enemy is always omnipresent,
00:36:36
it's not an easy life together the
00:36:40
triumph of the victor humiliates the
00:36:42
defeated even on Lake Constance
00:36:45
here hope that the tricolor was
00:36:48
here That was every morning and evening
00:36:51
a flag was hoisted, that was
00:36:54
certainly the ones at the front of the
00:36:57
state office who marched there,
00:37:00
they kept watch, the team that was
00:37:02
always posted at the flag and
00:37:04
then also the mass, the older people
00:37:08
standing at attention And the children see all of this
00:37:18
with completely different eyes
00:37:20
because the French have a lot to
00:37:22
offer. That was really big for us
00:37:32
and makes them all look at the people who are
00:37:35
driving it. The Frenchman is driving it. I never had
00:37:38
the feeling that the occupying power,
00:37:40
in that sense,
00:37:42
nobody was happy about it About the
00:37:44
billeting of the French but little by
00:37:46
little the Germans noticed that this
00:37:48
also had advantages. Then the
00:37:51
women had to cook for the French and
00:37:55
of course they brought everything here and
00:37:57
then the family had something to eat on the flight
00:38:00
so the others would also provide everything for him
00:38:04
This is also the case at the Löwen inn, where the
00:38:08
troupe of the Alsatian Frederik, who
00:38:10
takes up residence in the summer of 45, had a
00:38:14
great time. We ate there like
00:38:16
kings.
00:38:17
We felt like God in France,
00:38:19
as the saying goes.
00:38:27
The landlady of the inn will soon be like
00:38:30
a mother After a short time, Wirth's daughter became
00:38:32
more than a friend. They
00:38:40
were some of the most beautiful moments
00:38:43
I've experienced the whole time.
00:38:45
The sun was shining,
00:38:47
the war was over, the youth were getting
00:38:50
together again, the pretty girls,
00:39:05
we always had company when we
00:39:07
danced against them, they were happy to come We had to
00:39:12
ask our father for permission
00:39:14
but we always had a girlfriend. What do you think?
00:39:17
We were 20 years young and young people
00:39:20
don't know national borders.
00:39:22
The old enemies are approaching each other
00:39:25
here on Lake Constance, perhaps more carelessly
00:39:27
than anywhere else.
00:39:40
After half a year on Lake Constance
00:39:43
we have the Germans With completely different
00:39:45
eyes,
00:39:46
he didn't become too pro-German, but we just
00:39:50
saw the people differently
00:39:51
because they were so nice.
00:39:54
We almost felt at home, but
00:39:58
we still really wanted to go home.
00:40:03
Gohl also sounds conciliatory tones early on on his journey
00:40:05
through the occupied zone
00:40:10
In October 1945, in Saarbrücken,
00:40:13
in his first public speech on
00:40:16
German soil
00:40:17
as a European from the West, he said that
00:40:20
despite everything that might come between us,
00:40:22
we have to work together and
00:40:24
understand each other. Mori says she did
00:40:29
n't believe in German-French communication at that time
00:40:34
Occupation soldier in Rhineland-Palatinate,
00:40:36
he doesn't really want to trust peace.
00:40:43
I think the Germans were so
00:40:46
shocked by what had
00:40:48
happened to them that they
00:40:50
were hardly capable of any great resentment,
00:40:52
even if there were perhaps still
00:40:55
certain feelings of hate. They were far too
00:41:05
exhausted, so I I felt very little
00:41:07
about it. In
00:41:10
1947, Chuck Norris will return to Paris
00:41:13
and pursue a diplomatic
00:41:15
career. When he
00:41:18
proposes marriage, he will have to
00:41:19
promise his future wife that he will never go to Germany again.
00:41:25
At that time, I answered clearly without hesitation
00:41:38
a totally
00:41:40
tense relationship with Germany,
00:41:47
things turn out very differently. Jacques Morys will
00:41:50
later return as a diplomat and
00:41:53
help to get the last
00:41:54
German-French bone of contention out of the
00:41:56
way.
00:41:57
He prepares the signing of the Saar
00:42:00
instead of death in 1954.
00:42:07
A European
00:42:09
city is offered to the Saarlanders that a
00:42:12
year later they rejected it by a clear majority in a referendum.
00:42:20
I was
00:42:22
there when the treaties of 54 were signed. Here the
00:42:26
problem was solved once and for all.
00:42:29
We are very happy with that. On
00:42:35
the one hand, the Germans remained
00:42:38
and, on the other hand, they were able to have very
00:42:40
close economic ties and cultural
00:42:42
relationship between the Saarland in
00:42:44
France is established
00:42:52
France accepts the clear
00:42:54
vote of the Saarlanders for
00:42:56
integration into the Federal Republic
00:43:01
The end of the war becomes an opportunity for a
00:43:03
new beginning
00:43:07
and for the first time in a long time
00:43:09
German children are no longer seen as enemies of
00:43:11
France Growing up
00:43:14
in Freudenstadt began for Claude bus ag
00:43:17
already in April 1945 something new here
00:43:21
he had the feeling for the first time that
00:43:24
there must be something other than war between the French
00:43:26
and Germans. I was
00:43:30
still thinking about revenge but
00:43:33
I almost began to doubt their purchase, not because of their
00:43:35
guilt but because of that The fact
00:43:38
that they should be punished,
00:43:40
after all, they were punished enough by everything that had
00:43:42
happened.
00:43:49
Claude Boussa now has golf friends on the
00:43:51
other side of the Rhine that he
00:43:53
occasionally visits.
00:43:56
Our relationship certainly seems completely normal to many
00:43:59
people of the younger generation,
00:44:00
but for the people of
00:44:03
my generation it is There is something completely
00:44:06
incredible about
00:44:09
the Rhine between Strasbourg and Kehl.
00:44:12
Today French and Germans cross the
00:44:15
river as if there had never been a border here

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